[02:04] good evening/morning/other sponsors and SRU team :) [02:04] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1331871 [02:04] Ubuntu bug 1331871 in lightdm-gtk-greeter (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Please backport lightdm-gtk-greeter 1.8.5 to trusty" [Undecided,New] [02:05] Can we upload this to trusty-proposed and begin verification, or are there additional details needed? [02:07] I have one other as well, please let me know if there are any blocking issues. [02:08] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/menulibre/+bug/1323405 [02:08] Ubuntu bug 1323405 in menulibre (Ubuntu Trusty) "[SRU] Please backport menulibre-2.0.4 to trusty" [Undecided,New] [03:45] rbasak: I'll take care of it. === timrc is now known as timrc-afk [05:45] Good morning [05:51] morning pitti [05:51] jono: hey collea^Wargh free software pal! :) [05:51] pitti: :-) [05:52] howdy! [05:52] hows things there? [05:52] jono: you now need to work late? :-) [05:52] sometimes it seems [05:52] :-) [05:52] figuring out my new world [05:52] jono: quite fine, thanks! visiting my family for a few days [05:52] oh nice! [05:52] jono: already building space ships? :-) [05:52] pitti: hah, not quite yet [05:53] focused on another project you will hear about next month ;-) [05:53] very, very cool [05:55] jono: sounds exciting! [05:55] pitti: yeah, it is going to be fun :-) [05:55] Riddell: the kde-runtime autopkgtest shows a file conflict between khelpcenter4 and kde-runtime-data on /usr/share/kde4/apps/khelpcenter/plugins/browsercontrolmodules.desktop [05:56] alright, bed for me [05:56] night all! [05:56] bye jonmasters [05:56] err, jono [05:56] jonmasters: hey :) (sorry, tab completion fail) [05:57] Howdy. === PaulW2U is now known as G4MBY [07:00] WooHoo just put in my first merge request! [07:04] * hamiltont celebrates [07:09] good morning === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia [07:49] Hi does anybody know why wxwidgets is not sync'd from debian? The new release has been uploaded yesterday [07:49] I don't see in ubuntu, neither in merges.u.c [07:49] wxwidgets3.0 is the package [07:51] (reboot time) [07:53] back :) [08:08] nobody? [08:40] LocutusOfBorg1: MoM just hadn't caught up yet. Merged anyway, it was trivial. [08:42] thanks infinity [08:42] yes it was trivial, I was wondering MoM wasn't working correctly [08:44] when does MoM run? I can see debian dinstall, there is something similar for ubuntu? [08:45] LocutusOfBorg1: I don't recall the precise schedule, but it's not like that upload's been in unstable for very long. [08:47] it was in unstable since 1+ day [08:47] the problem was that it was here https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/wxwidgets3.0 since yesterday morning [08:48] so I was wondering about a MoM failure (don't know why, the patch was clean), or something else [08:48] anyway thanks for the help [08:48] :D [08:48] I'll ask for a backport today [08:48] MoM runs every two hours [08:49] Sorry, no, it tries to run every half an hour [08:49] Let me see if it's broken [08:49] ValueError: process failed 25: dpkg-source -x lazarus_1.2.2+dfsg-1.dsc /srv/patches.ubuntu.com/unpacked/l/lazarus/1.2.2+dfsg-1 [08:49] yup [08:49] ok thanks colin, that was my worrying about, and it was right :D [08:50] cjwatson: That's sort of extra special, since lazarus is in sync... [08:50] cjwatson: Anyhow, I stole your trivial wxwidgets merge. [08:51] cjwatson: (After testing it still breaks) [08:51] what breaks? [08:51] odd though, unpacks fine when I do it by hand [08:51] infinity: sure, np [08:51] LocutusOfBorg1: The precompiled headers cause an ICE on arm64. [08:52] oh.... I wonder what is the root of the problem [08:52] At least with gcc-4.8 ... Might need retesting when we flip the default to 4.9 again. [08:52] yes, I think doko__ is going to make 4.9 default soon, right? at least on debian, I heard this week [08:52] IIRC [08:52] ... but not when I point it at that target directory, wtf [08:52] dpkg-source: error: expected ^--- in line 5 of diff `/srv/patches.ubuntu.com/unpacked/l/lazarus/1.2.2+dfsg-1/debian/patches/add_proper_shbang_to_scripts.patch' [08:52] LocutusOfBorg1: We already made it the default on Ubuntu, then reverted it in a panic while hunting some C++11 issues. [08:53] ah, well that patch is clearly broken [08:53] LocutusOfBorg1: Hence the "again" in my sentence. :P [08:54] cjwatson, how did it merge a broken patch? so MoM break and somebody sync'd it after? [08:54] infinity, I heard that too, but I was thinking it was solved [08:55] LocutusOfBorg1: nothing to do with the *output* of MoM, the package in Debian is broken [08:55] I'm filing a Debian bug [08:56] yes, but why the package has been built in ubuntu? [08:56] that was my question [08:56] so buildd don't have this problem? [08:56] dpkg seems to unpack it fine... [08:56] I don't know how it managed to build, probably depends on the exact unpack environment, don't care [08:56] it fails to unpack it in some environments [08:57] maybe depends on whether quilt is present when you try to unpack [08:57] anyway, I've nuked it from MoM's pool so it should be able to proceed [08:57] quilt on trusty doesn't break [08:58] wonderful [08:58] if you look at the patch it genuinely is malformed [08:58] so honestly I don't care too much about the precise details [08:58] I've filed a bug, nuked it, moving on [08:59] two questions: why is it broken? (I'll see the bug report), why it was in MoM list? shouldn't MoM process packages only if there is an ubuntu delta? [08:59] cjwatson: That's a bit flip or similar corruption on your local machine. [09:00] cjwatson: The patch isn't malformed in the package. [09:00] --- a/components/chmhelp/packages/help/design/lazhelpchm.sh [09:00] +++ b/components/chmhelp/packages/help/design/lazhelpchm.sh [09:00] MoM goes through the whole pool to generate diffs, regardless of whether there are Ubuntu changes [09:00] it's an auxiliary function [09:00] infinity: huh [09:01] cjwatson: Which makes me curious how it managed to unpack at all, but... Whee. [09:01] seriously WTF [09:01] http://sources.debian.net/src/lazarus/1.2.2%2Bdfsg1-1/debian/patches/add_proper_shbang_to_scripts.patch [09:02] exactly [09:02] the patch isn't malformed at all [09:02] even quilt refresh looks fine [09:02] seriously it goes wrong every time when I run "dpkg-source -x lazarus_1.2.2+dfsg-1.dsc /srv/patches.ubuntu.com/unpacked/l/lazarus/1.2.2+dfsg-1" not when I run without the target directory [09:03] lol [09:03] oh, I see, subtly different version [09:03] cjwatson, wrong version [09:03] exactly [09:03] 1.2.2+dfsg-1 != 1.2.2+dfsg1-1 [09:03] 1.2.2+dfsg1-1 [09:03] yep :p === gry is now known as sveta [09:04] but MoM still cares because it goes through to generate diffs; it's occasionally necessary to clear out broken versions from its pool [09:04] cjwatson: Oh. Yeah. Different version. Derp. [09:04] and the previous version was broken indeed [09:04] http://sources.debian.net/src/lazarus/1.2.2%2Bdfsg-1/debian/patches/add_proper_shbang_to_scripts.patch [09:04] cjwatson: I got there around the same time, when cutting and pasting your command and getting ENOFILE. [09:04] Confusing versions are confusing. :/ [09:04] please mail 752066-done :) [09:06] LocutusOfBorg1: yes this isn't my first rodero [09:06] *rodeo [09:06] cjwatson: But it's your first time typing rodeo? [09:06] Apparently [09:06] Anyway done [09:06] :) thanks for the help [09:08] almost built wxwidgets :D [09:28] cjwatson: hi. seems m-o-m to be broken? [09:28] "Generated at 2014-06-15 21:45:09 UTC." [09:29] ari-tczew: scroll up [09:34] cjwatson: ok === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [10:08] ScottK: thanks! [10:20] Anyone knows why cuips-1.7.3-3 does not make it from utopic-proposed to utopic (it has built on all platforms)? [10:22] tkamppeter, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt ... seems it's part of the gnutls28 transition [10:22] Stuck behind gnutls28 transition, complex, will take some time [10:22] Fixing things on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/gnutls28.html would help [10:22] seb128, cjwatson, thanks. [10:25] seb128, cjwatson, OdyX, looks like that we have to wait for the gnutls28 transition to complete. [10:27] tkamppeter, yes [10:27] You don't have to just wait. :) [10:27] cjwatson, is the transition "just" to rebuild things with 26->28? [10:27] Wait, maybe that's the wrong transition page [10:28] I was thinking of http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/libgnutls-deb0-28.html, but that's complete [10:29] Ah yes, the problem is that libgnutls-deb0-28 is snarled up with the libav10 transition [10:29] Sorry for misleading [10:29] So http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/libav10.html is the right thing to push [10:30] There may be some low-hanging rebuild fruit left there, but I think it mostly requires porting now :-/ [10:30] siretart: Do you have any effort available to continue with this? [10:30] mvo: ping [10:31] caribou: pong [10:36] https://wiki.libav.org/Migration/10 may prove helpful for the libav transition. [10:38] apw: Were you planning on doing +1 this cycle? [10:40] mark shuttleworth why would you make love to me then deny everything!!?! [10:46] u [10:47] cant ban me i just reset the modem [10:47] cjwatson: [10:47] ikonia unity sux [10:47] ikonia unity sux [10:47] I don't like it either, so I don't know why you are telling me [10:48] Matthew Darcy what do you run on your desktop? [10:48] windows? [10:48] Palm OS [10:49] i said desktop [10:49] yes, I run palm OS on my desktop [10:50] what do you do for a living [10:50] I make goats cheese [10:50] same [10:51] there we go === MS4Life is now known as WombleWasaCattha [10:55] I love unity [10:55] ikonia: Looks like you get to k-line an entire subnet? :P [10:56] (not ideal but I assume they'll get bored) [10:57] could gline new zealand ;D [10:57] might be a bit of collateral damage [10:58] His ident stayed the same. [10:58] I'll refine it if it's a problem but usually this sort of troll has a short attention span [10:58] just don't feed them [10:59] yay I can start landing livefs-in-LP [11:00] hi, just curious, not a problem really, I was wonderinf if all Qt apps are borked theme-wise for anyone else on utpic?: [11:01] zyga, dholbach mentioned such issues yesterday [11:02] not sure if he managed to get them resolved [11:05] zyga: I had noticed that with mumble, yes. Hadn't gotten around to whining loudly. [11:09] seb128, infinity: thanks [11:10] seb128: should I open a bug on that? [11:10] zyga, check with dholbach, I guess he had one [11:10] dholbach: ^^ [11:16] cjwatson: I'm at a conference right now (USENIX ATC, Philadelphia), and I fear that i'm unlikely to find time before end of next week. sorry [11:16] OK, thought I'd at least ask [11:16] thanks [11:17] with 'pushing', do you mean removing blocking binary packages from utopic? [11:19] siretart: Ideally fixing rather than removing, unless there are some that are lost causes. [11:20] siretart: Do you have a list of stuff that was demoted in Debian to force libav into testing? [11:20] mplayer and xine-lib seem rather lost causes [11:20] There are way too many right now to be considering removing, IMO. [11:20] both were removed from testing in favor of mplayer2/mpv and xine-lib-1.2 [11:21] xine-lib-1.2 FTBFS in utopic :P [11:21] k3b disabled its ffmpeg plugin [11:21] zoneminder was removed from testing [11:21] (something to do with libcaca I think) [11:21] I'm happy to remove/demote the odd one once we get to the end, but we don't appear to be near the end yet [11:22] sure [11:23] I might sic sil2100 on it next week [11:25] pitti: about bug 1329049. I haven't uploaded juju-quickstart to utopic yet. I wanted to get juju-core migrated first. I guess I could throw it into utopic-proposed though. [11:25] bug 1329049 in juju-quickstart (Ubuntu) "quickstart fails, hardcodes /var/lib/lxc/ somewhere" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1329049 [11:25] juju-quickstart 1.4.0 that is. [11:25] pitti: do you need it right now, and/or do you know if 1.4.0 (it's in PyPI) is also affected? [11:37] rbasak: hey! No, I symlinked /var/lib/lxc to /scratch/lxc as a workaround [11:37] rbasak: I didn't try 1.4.0 [11:45] zyga, no, I didn't have a bug [11:46] zyga, and still no idea what triggered it - I got busy yesterday and stopped looking into it - my use-cases were musique and skype, for spotify it works fine, as Mirv pointed out [11:46] ^ seb128 [11:48] dholbach, k [11:52] Riddell, Unpacking nepomuk-core-runtime (4:4.13.2-0ubuntu2) over (4:4.13.0-0ubuntu1) ... [11:52] dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/nepomuk-core-runtime_4%3a4.13.2-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb (--unpack): [11:52] trying to overwrite '/usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.kde.nepomuk.filewatch.service', which is also in package nepomuk-core-data 4:4.13.0-0ubuntu1 [12:02] dholbach: I just noticed it on qbzr === doko__ is now known as doko [12:28] doko: tsk, thanks [12:51] tkamppeter: ah, yeah, thanks. [13:54] a friendly core dev around to ack/nack packaging changes for mhr3? mainly containing unity-scopes-api version upgrade to 0.5.0 (also unity-api to 7.82) [13:55] https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/landing-014-2-publish/33/ <- the packaging_changes links [13:58] (the packages are at https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-014/+packages) [13:58] Mirv, that's from mhr3? nack! [13:58] (nor fun, he's not on this channel) [13:58] not* [13:58] looking === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [13:59] hehe [13:59] infinity, do you know why wxwidgets3.0 hasn't move to release yet? [13:59] still in proposed so far [14:01] Mirv, could be get libunity-scopes split in a lib and a binary? having the lib containing unversionned binaries and doing this conflicts/replaces on the old soname is suboptimal [14:02] LocutusOfBorg1: Looks like a bunch of rdeps need transitioning. [14:02] LocutusOfBorg1: We'll get to it. Patience is a virtue. :P [14:05] (thanks seb) [14:07] (yw!) [14:08] infinity, thanks, I was wondering about a bug :) [14:08] do you have any page where I can see the rdeps of a particular package? [14:08] I mean, I see hedgewars in proposed because of libav10 transition [14:09] while I don't know where to look for wx3.0, evenmore because the upload seems API/ABI compatible, so I don't even know why a rebuild should be issued [14:12] LocutusOfBorg1: Looks like libalien-wxwidgets-perl needs a rebuild. Uploading now. [14:13] mm ok, but why? [14:14] I'm trying to learn what might cause a rebuild when API/ABI doesn't change [14:15] LocutusOfBorg1: Because it has exact deps on the version it was built with. [14:37] LocutusOfBorg1: reverse-depends(1) === timrc-afk is now known as timrc === quadrispro_ is now known as quadrispro [14:57] infinity, cjwatson so the question is: why debian didn't rebuilt it? [14:57] LocutusOfBorg1: They did. [14:58] https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=libalien-wxwidgets-perl&suite=unstable [14:58] I don't see in changelogs [14:58] LocutusOfBorg1: The upload was timed so that -2 built after wxwidgets on most arches, s390x missed, and got a binNMU. [14:58] last rebuild 13 days ago, and wx has been uploaded 2 days ago [14:58] Err, oh. [14:59] No, they'll need more binNMUs. You're right. [14:59] You'll note it hasn't migrated to testing yet. :P [14:59] ok so wx won't reach testing until they binNMU it? [14:59] And it won't until those binNMUs are done. [14:59] Yes. [15:00] ack, thanks [15:00] so why doesn't show this on excuses? package too young? [15:00] https://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=wxwidgets3.0 [15:00] I think I should see something like "makes 1 package uninstallable or blabla" [15:00] or not? [15:02] LocutusOfBorg1: Those tests aren't run intil it's up-to-date on all arches. [15:03] LocutusOfBorg1: And a valid candidate (so, 5 day wait over, no RC bugs, etc) [15:04] ack thanks for the full explanation [15:04] so the problem is that ubuntu doesn't have this "transition time" [15:05] Well, that's not so much a problem, from our point of view. :P [15:24] yes, of course it isn't :D [15:25] the problem is in my mind, I want to know everything I can :) === DrKranz is now known as DktrKranz === mhall119_ is now known as mhall119 === seelaman` is now known as seelaman === brendand_ is now known as brendand [16:30] can we declare dependencies like: Depends: syslinux-common, syslinux-dev | , [16:30] ? [16:33] not sure what that means [16:38] cjwatson: so in trusty syslinux-common used to ship pxelinux.0. In utopic it is being shipped on syslinux-dev, so we are trying to figure out a way for packaging to work both in utopic and trusty, since we need syslinux-common in both, and syslinux-dev in utopic+ [16:38] sure, I just don't understand the syntax you're using above [16:39] how about "syslinux-common, syslinux-dev | syslinux-common"? [16:40] or perhaps "syslinux-common, syslinux-dev | syslinux-common (<< 3:6.00~pre4+dfsg-5)" would be more exact [16:40] (if I've got that version right - based on http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/s/syslinux/unstable_changelog) [16:45] cjwatson: yeah I think something like that would work! Thanks! [17:01] roaksoax: Err, syslinux-dev? Really? [17:02] roaksoax: I think you want pxelinux, not syslinux-dev [17:06] roaksoax: Oh, I see. It's in both. Brilliant. === roadmr is now known as roadmr_afk [17:18] so the bzr repos for git appear to be out of date. Is the auto importer broken? [17:37] heads up that Qt 5.3 has been published to archives, and there'll be fun to be had for the next few hours with them most probably. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7670340/ [17:37] there are 8 packages that should start building shortly, ie. direct syncs from Debian that were already waiting in utopic-proposed for the base modules to come to them [17:53] ev, bdmurray: https://errors.ubuntu.com/?release=Ubuntu%2014.10&package=webbrowser-app&period=day shows no report from webbrowser-app but https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/b0a749da-f7d3-11e3-b432-fa163e707a72 is one, is there any way to debug why it's not showing in the summary? [18:06] bdmurray, since it's your SRU day, could you have a look to libdbusmenu in the trusty queue? Should be an easy diff to review, and it's blocking a landing silo so it would be nice to get in [18:12] seb128: querying the db reveals it is waiting to retrace and may be retracing now [18:20] Mirv: \o/ [18:20] Mirv: Thanks a lot for your work on 5.3! [18:23] you're welcome! [18:26] Mirv: qt5-doc now depends on non-existent qtpositioning5-doc, can I fix that? [18:26] (should be qtlocation5) === roadmr_afk is now known as roadmr [18:30] mitya57: AFAIK I already fixed that already in the https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtdoc-opensource-src/5.3.0-2ubuntu1 but if there's something missing yes surely go ahead and fix (I'll be away for some time anyhow after today) [18:30] mitya57: yeah, you're correct. so, go ahead :) [18:30] Mirv: you fixed only build-depends, not depends. [18:30] indeed === kgunn is now known as Guest13280 === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [19:00] bdmurray, thanks, it's still waiting/being retraced, or did that fail for some reason? [19:11] seb128: hmm, it says it is still waiting. I'll keep an eye on it. [19:12] bdmurray, ok, no worry, let's see if it's retraced by tomorrow, thanks for checking [19:13] bdmurray, I'm asking because I'm suspîcious there might be an issue there, I'm surprised that e.g unity8 is having 0 reports on the daily reports, we for sure have testers running into errors [19:13] seb128: the queue was quite large for a while since we were starting over [19:14] seb128: we had to retrace everything to create crash signatures [19:15] bdmurray, well, https://errors.ubuntu.com/?release=Ubuntu%2014.10&package=unity8&period=day still has "no data to display" [19:15] same for the week view [19:15] it only has url-dispatcher errors [19:16] that seems wrong [19:17] seb128: the amd64 queue still has 1000 crashes in it [19:17] hum, k [19:18] I'll see if I can get some more retracers added temporarily [19:19] bdmurray, don't worry, it's not a big issue if that's just backlog, I'm trying to make sure we don't have an infrastructure issue which means we discard reports === roadmr is now known as roadmr_afk [19:19] because it looks like this way [19:20] but that could be a side effect of the backlog [19:20] well, it should be easy to add some more retracers and get the queue to a more managable size [19:21] that would be nice === roadmr_afk is now known as roadmr [19:53] Is anyone from the installer team online? [19:54] hamiltont: I've seen your branch but have had a bit much to do today to review it; will try to look tomorrow [19:54] Awesome, an update was all I was looking for [19:55] thanks [19:55] hamiltont: however are you aware that kickseed's real upstream is actually in a Debian git repository? [19:55] No - I looked but couldn't find it [19:55] I'll happily submit there if you link me [19:55] hamiltont: I'm very likely to redirect you there (which'll still be me reviewing, but it's easier to manage) and ask for you to split up your branch into logically-separate patches [19:55] Yea, that's fine [19:55] Git's easier for me. Where is the project located? I couldn't find it [19:56] http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=d-i/kickseed.git, patches would go either as bugs in the Debian BTS or as mail to debian-boot@lists.debian.org [19:56] but I'm fine with proxying, it'd just help to have it spli tup [19:56] *split up [19:56] there are a couple of remaining Ubuntu deltas, I think it's just RAID and LVM handling [19:56] Well how about I wait until you have time to read/respond on launchpad, and then for the next set of changes I'll put them through debian's tracker [19:57] sure, I can give you a first pass review [19:57] just not tonight :) [19:57] Yea sure thing - you seem pretty busy ;-) [19:57] Just want to get these fundamental changes in so I can use them for working on other stuff [19:57] yup, understood [19:58] cool. talk to you later then === hamiltont is now known as hamiltont|away === hamiltont|away is now known as hamiltont === hmatlock is now known as heath [23:03] Hi, I'm trying to debug an issue with the proposed archive.. it seems to be missing the autofs-ldap binary package for some reason? [23:04] The version in proposed here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/amd64/autofs/5.0.7-3ubuntu3.1 shows autofs_5.0.7-3ubuntu3.1_amd64.deb under Downloadable files, which is also the only one listed in the Packages file on the mirrors. [23:04] However when I click on the build, it shows built files for autofs-ldap_5.0.7-3ubuntu3.1_amd64.deb and autofs-hesiod_5.0.7-3ubuntu3.1_amd64.deb too. [23:04] So what would have kept them from getting into the archive? [23:08] oh for. [23:08] I just tried to delete 4 rows in calc, and it crashed. [23:08] crash recovery recovered an empty document. [23:08] :| [23:10] Ryan52: They're there, you just need to look in universe instead of main. [23:14] cjwatson: ahah, thank you so much! I was misled since they weren't listed on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/amd64/autofs/5.0.7-3ubuntu3.1 (I'm still kinda curious why that is) [23:14] because that's the page just for that single binary package [23:14] OK, thanks! [23:15] you want https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs/5.0.7-3ubuntu3.1 instead [23:15] sigh [23:15] was talking :P