| mlankhorst | ok back :p | 08:04 |
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| bdmurray | infinity: could you review libtar for me? | 18:53 |
| shadeslayer | could someone reject kde-workspace from trusty unapproved? | 18:58 |
| bdmurray | shadeslayer: doing so | 19:12 |
| shadeslayer | bdmurray: thx | 19:27 |
| shadeslayer | uploaded the fixed package | 19:27 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 22:04 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: ^^ kde-workspace uploaded | 22:12 |
| cjwatson | shadeslayer: since you've been asking - the livefs stuff is landed on Launchpad trunk now and is looking pretty good, so I'm optimistic that we'll have an initial production rollout next week | 22:13 |
| cjwatson | doing it on Friday would probably be a bit cavalier | 22:13 |
| shadeslayer | I noticed :) | 22:13 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 22:14 |
| shadeslayer | cjwatson: btw from what I've understood, using the LP derivative distro will make a entire archive fork ? | 22:14 |
| cjwatson | I ended up using the PPA code for testing (because I needed a hacked live-build), so maybe I can get some ops time to debug that | 22:14 |
| cjwatson | shadeslayer: partial | 22:14 |
| cjwatson | s/debug/deploy/ | 22:14 |
| cjwatson | buildd deployments are rather more fragile and time-consuming for ops at the moment sadly | 22:15 |
| shadeslayer | cjwatson: so, we specify which packages to fork then? | 22:15 |
| cjwatson | but we'll see | 22:15 |
| shadeslayer | *nod* | 22:16 |
| cjwatson | shadeslayer: something like that. I don't think it will be ready for casual use for quite a while ... | 22:16 |
| shadeslayer | cjwatson: I mostly need it for Kubuntu Next ISO's | 22:16 |
| cjwatson | yeah, don't hold your breath | 22:16 |
| cjwatson | I would expect a PPA to be better for your use case anyway? | 22:16 |
| shadeslayer | I see, then we'll have to figure out how to do those with PPA's | 22:16 |
| shadeslayer | yep, however, I was more interested in the ISO side of those | 22:17 |
| cjwatson | I dunno, maybe it will be possible with derived distros, but the target is to get them working for a single target for August and that target doesn't require anything complicated on the cdimage side | 22:17 |
| cjwatson | whereas Kubuntu likely would | 22:17 |
| cjwatson | so would need to discuss the exact requirements in a bit more detail I think | 22:17 |
| shadeslayer | mhm, should I email Ubuntu devel with our requirements next week then? because plasma 5 is going to be out in a few weeks, and it would be awesome to have a ISO to go along with it | 22:18 |
| cjwatson | I'm also kind of wary of derived distros being used for more than stabilisation branches, as it would be very easy to end up with fragmentation | 22:19 |
| shadeslayer | I could hack around things and use ubuntu-defaults-builder and what not, but I don't know how to setup the UEFI side of things | 22:19 |
| cjwatson | right, you absolutely will not have derived distros in a few weeks | 22:19 |
| cjwatson | so sure, details please :) | 22:19 |
| shadeslayer | ok, will send details to ubuntu-devel next week :) | 22:19 |
| shadeslayer | if that's the right place to discuss this | 22:19 |
| cjwatson | will probably need some work on the cdimage side to mirror additional PPAs | 22:19 |
| cjwatson | maybe ubuntu-release, but whichever | 22:20 |
| shadeslayer | well, it'll be just the one | 22:20 |
| cjwatson | yeah but I'm not writing special-case code for this, if I write it it'll be generic so I don't have to rewrite it later :) | 22:20 |
| shadeslayer | fair enough :) | 22:20 |
| cjwatson | trying to make sure that new classes of configuration I add to cdimage are table-driven | 22:21 |
| cjwatson | one thing that's important to know is the scope of the PPA | 22:21 |
| cjwatson | in particular it would be helpful to have a guarantee that it will not touch things in the debootstrap set | 22:21 |
| cjwatson | ('cos debootstrap isn't much good at multi-archive bootstrapping) | 22:22 |
| cjwatson | if it's just the UI layer, and you're happy to deal with the utopic archive moving along under you, then a PPA should work | 22:23 |
| shadeslayer | I highly doubt it'll touch things in the debootstrap layer | 22:24 |
| shadeslayer | **maybe** some library like poppler, or stuff, but I highly doubt we'll touch things in debootstrap | 22:24 |
| stgraber | cjwatson: the only problem is if the PPA contains extra packages (not in archive) which they need in the debootstrap set, correct? anything else, we debootstrap from the release pocket + dist-upgrade the chroot with all the right sources afterwards which should take care of any version bump for packages in the debootstrap set. | 22:27 |
| stgraber | or am I missing something? | 22:28 |
| cjwatson | or removals. but possibly, yeah | 22:28 |
| cjwatson | still, I'd be more comfortable if that were excluded | 22:28 |
| cjwatson | it's complex enough as it is :) | 22:28 |
| stgraber | yeah, I just assumed we already had that kind of logic since it's not uncommon for us to push debootstrap-set packages into -updates post-release and then build point release isos including that (where we debootstrap from release pocket, setup sources.list and dist-upgrade afterwards). | 22:30 |
| cjwatson | we might do, I'd just like for it not to be a requirement because it seems like a plausible source of difficulty | 22:31 |
| cjwatson | and this is several thousand lines of brand new infrastructure code as it is | 22:32 |
| cjwatson | https://dogfood.paddev.net/builders/ heh, LP is nice sometimes, I didn't explicitly put the [<archive>] bit there but it's absolutely right | 22:36 |
| cjwatson | ah yes, of course PackageBuildFormatterAPI does that | 22:39 |
| DalekSec | Howdy! With the latest upload of darkice, we have eliminated the rest of the Ubuntu delta, can you sync it (or do I need to make a formal sync request?) | 22:51 |
| cjwatson | that's self-service by uploaders, we don't do that centrally any more | 22:56 |
| cjwatson | if you have upload access, use syncpackage, otherwise, use requestsync | 22:56 |
| cjwatson | assuming you have an Ubuntu system to run it from? | 22:56 |
| cjwatson | actually, never mind, it's pretty clear, I'll switch to my uploader hat and do it | 22:58 |
| cjwatson | done | 22:58 |
| DalekSec | Sweet, thanks. And no, I have no upload rights. | 23:00 |
| DalekSec | (It was a simple one, yeah.) | 23:00 |
| bdmurray | cjwatson: could you review libtar in trusty-proposed? | 23:10 |
| cjwatson | looking | 23:11 |
| cjwatson | bdmurray: do you want to fix the grievous misspelling of the patch author's name in the changelog? :) | 23:17 |
| cjwatson | Magnus != Marcus, Holmgren != Holmgen | 23:18 |
| cjwatson | rest of it looks ok ... | 23:18 |
| bdmurray | cjwatson: wow, that'd be great or I can do it | 23:18 |
| cjwatson | can I reject and have you fix the changelog? I like to have people's names spelled right | 23:19 |
| cjwatson | but I'll be around for a little bit longer to accept the second try | 23:19 |
| bdmurray | cjwatson: sure, sounds good | 23:21 |
| bdmurray | cjwatson: reuploaded | 23:26 |
| cjwatson | bdmurray: thanks | 23:34 |
| bdmurray | cjwatson: thank you for pointing it out | 23:37 |
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