=== chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [00:21] IdleOne: too true :) I <3 our community, no one took the bait :) [00:22] they probably thought there were no ops.... he did the same in #ubuntu-offtopic. [00:22] got a swift kick in the hind-quarters === Beldar is now known as wile-nilee === wile-nilee is now known as Beldar === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [05:59] Mirv, good morning! any update on the Qt 5.3 landing? [06:21] oSoMoN: I'm fixing some small things regarding emulator with rsalveti's patches now. if emulator gets to working, we already have gallery fixed, framework bumped and music app fixed so I think emulator is the only remaining real blocker [06:21] oh and getting ack from QA, still [06:21] regarding qtbase unit tests [06:22] (the fact that a couple needed to be disabled, but they are fine when locally run) === gnu is now known as Guest70240 === Stskeepz is now known as Stskeeps [07:44] good morning [08:33] AlbertA: there you go, thanks for the patch [08:39] What security differences are between click and .deb package? | http://askubuntu.com/q/485401 [08:44] Good morning all; happy Juneteenth and happy Sauntering Day! :-D [09:40] ogra_, hi, I’m working on the low disk space warning. When we do warn the user, what specific suggestions can we offer? === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [09:45] ogra_, we could offer a button for opening the Apps scope in delete-apps mode [09:52] ogra_, I guess one is to go to the detailed “Storage” screen [09:53] mpt, he might be off today, it's an holiday if parts of Germany [09:54] ah, thanks [09:56] seb128: and part of france too, no? don't you get all the german and french holidays ;) ? [09:56] mvo, lol, no, not this one [09:56] mvo, is that a real German one? or one some of guys pretend it's real? ;-) [09:57] seb128: I just made it up to slack for a day ;) [09:57] mvo, I knew it! [09:57] ;-) [09:58] gahhhhhhh [09:59] mardy, hey [09:59] I just discovered that I redesigned something in 2012 because I forgot I already designed it in 2009 [09:59] mardy, mhr3, dobey: so, when trying to install a click on unity8-desktop-mir, I get an online-account-ui segfault, is that a known issue? [10:00] OnlineAccountsUi::Request::windowId (this=this@entry=0x0) at request.cpp:204 [10:00] mpt, :-( [10:03] mardy, mhr3, dobey: in practice when I click on "install" for a click, I get a black screen for a second, then it sends me back on the app preview page with a spinner but the "install" button is still there/not replaced by the install bar [10:04] which I guess is a side effect of the online-accounts-ui segfault [10:04] is that process supposed to be called? I already have a configured account on there [10:04] oh, fun, in fact unity8 is frozen after that [10:05] seb128, can you get attach gdb to it and open a bug with the trace? [10:05] should never happen [10:06] seb128, but yea.. no idea why it crashes... mardy's thing :) [10:20] mhr3, unity8's one seems like something in your land, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7668294/ [10:20] mhr3, it's in libunity8-scope [10:21] libunity-scope [10:24] seb128: hi! [10:24] mardy, hey [10:24] seb128: no, AFAIK online-accounts-ui shouldn't be invoked when you install a click package [10:24] seb128: we have a click hook for OA, but that doesn't invoke online-accounts-ui [10:25] mardy, it is for some reason, and hits http://paste.ubuntu.com/7668305/ [10:25] seb128: but indeed, if there's a segfault, that's something I should fix. It never crashed there before, though [10:25] seb128, that's not the main thread though [10:25] seb128, t a a bt [10:27] mhr3, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7668310/ [10:29] mhr3, the ?? from the first line of the bt doesn't match any binary in procmaps so I'm not sure what's going on there [10:29] mhr3, seems to be thrd 1 as well? [10:30] seb128: can you reproduce it reliably? [10:30] mardy, yes, it happens every time I click "install" in the store lens on the daily utopic ubuntu-desktop-next install (unity8 desktop image) [10:30] what the? why is main thread 29? [10:31] seb128: if so, please enable logging in /etc/signond.conf, then kill signond and try again [10:31] seb128: then please paste the syslog somewhere, but make sure you replace any sensitive bits with XXX [10:32] mardy, do I just need to uncomment the LoggingLevel? [10:32] seb128: yep [10:32] k [10:37] mardy, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7668346/ [10:47] mardy, I get the segfault as well when I open u-s-s online's panel [10:49] seb128: please file a bug [10:49] mardy, k, against what? u-s-s-o-a? with the log and bt? [10:50] seb128: it fails because I didn't implement a password query dialog, which apparently is being requested by some plugin (must likely it's the U1 one) [10:50] seb128: yes, u-s-s-o-a with the log [10:50] mardy, is that new? because I could install click on monday [10:53] seb128, i don't really see anything super weird in the trace [10:53] seb128, although few more symbols would be nice :) [10:54] but it looks like the main thread is just waiting for normal render pass [10:55] maybe the black screen broke mir [10:56] seb128: no, it's not new; something happened to your account's password, it cannot be found anymore [10:56] afterall it is waiting for a condvar inside swapbuffers... but that can be completely normal [10:57] seb128: if you delete and re-create your U1 account, it should work [10:57] seb128: or maybe you changed your U1 password on the server, so the one that OA has is no longer valid [11:00] mhr3, unity-system-compositor segfaulted as well apparently, from apport collector [11:00] mardy, let me try deleting/adding it back [11:01] ogra_, you there ? [11:07] mardy, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/+bug/1332033 [11:07] Ubuntu bug 1332033 in ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts (Ubuntu) "online-accounts-ui segfaults on unity8 desktop session" [Undecided,New] [11:08] How can I solve the "Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel. See Linux Documentation/init.txt for guidance" problem ? [11:17] mardy, ok, works after removing the account and adding it back [11:19] seb128: thanks for the bug report [11:19] yw, thanks for the help debugging ;-) [11:25] Mirv, any chance of landing today? [11:36] pmcgowan: I was just finishing an e-mail, but yes. we need at least ricardo to wake up and test the emulator first. [11:38] Mirv: does that mean it will also land in the archive for utopic on desktop? [11:39] Mirv, sounds good [11:39] t1mp, yes [11:39] t1mp: yes it would mean it === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:50] seb128: no, that is not a known issue [12:51] dobey, sorted out since, my online account was not valid and that stack has no UI to query about password/let you fix that, I opened a bug and mardy said it's a known issue/something he plans to work on [12:52] ah ok [13:01] ogra_, whatever happened to that ubuntu-touch-silo? I don't see it in the CI train [13:02] mterry: ogra_ is on vacation today [13:02] oh noes [13:03] popey, thanks for heads up, I'll talk to CI folks [13:03] np [13:04] Hi Users. [13:05] mterry, it's on l9 on the table and marked ready=no (if that's the same one you are talking about, not sure) [13:06] seb128, ah doesn't have a silo assigned, I thought he was further along [13:06] mterry, it's "ready=no" so it's not going to get one until that's flagged yes [13:07] seb128, sure -- I just meant that's why I didn't think line 9 was what he had been looking at yesterday, I thought he talked about a silo [13:08] seb128, but I'm sure it was -- how many ubuntu-touch-session branches can one man juggle? [13:08] mterry, I don't know of anything, just saw it in there, maybe you are talking about something else? [13:08] hehe === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:24] Is ubuntu touch running on an galaxy tab2 ? [13:26] !devices | unvi3h [13:26] unvi3h: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [13:35] ogra_, you there ? [13:36] Aizen: its vacation day in Germany today [13:37] popoy, ahhh didn't know that :). Can you help me with something ? [13:37] *popey [13:39] popey: I'm unable to boot the ubuntu ramdisk. I always get the message "Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel" [13:39] I don't sorry. [13:40] OK. No problem. [13:45] fginther, heyo! So I'd like to land the welcome wizard first-boot setup thingy in the next few days. I'm realizing that will probably affect the automated test stuff [13:46] fginther, in which component does the sort of "get the system ready" hacks that would turn off the welcome wizard live? [13:46] mterry, one moment, in a meeting === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [13:59] Mirv, I’m testing the Qt 5.3 build, and the "dungeon fury" webapp doesn’t seem to work anymore [13:59] other webgl stuff works though [14:01] oSoMoN: ok. I don't find such app in my store (and not in the automated startup tests folder where popey ran all the apps). we might need add to the list of apps needing a look. [14:02] Mirv, yeah, I’ll add it to the test plan [14:02] in fact all playcanvas games seem to not work anymore [14:03] oSoMoN: shouldn't they use oxide now if they're not 13.10 framework webapps (which are now considerated deprecated)? [14:04] Mirv, yes, they should, and actually they do [14:04] Mirv, I’m seeing the same issue in the browser app, so it’s not a framework issue [14:05] oSoMoN: hmm, interesting, it's the same 1.0.2 after all, just rebuilt. [14:05] yes [14:06] mterry, I'm looking. will send you a link when I find it [14:07] fginther, kthx [14:07] Anyone here feel like helping me test boot animation silo? I just need someone to boot a few times with it, confirm it doesn't do insane things [14:14] kgunn, ^ if you have some minutes today [14:14] mterry, this looks close to what you are asking for: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-test-case-dev/ubuntu-test-cases/touch/view/head:/scripts/provision.sh#L130 [14:15] mterry, that's for disabling the welcome screen after flashing [14:15] fginther, yes... Looks like I probably want to edit phablet-config to add a new command and then edit this to use it [14:16] mterry, is this welcome wizard an additional thing (so we'll have two things on first use?) [14:16] fginther, yes [14:16] mterry, got it [14:18] mterry: ack will do [14:18] mterry, then that's probably a good approach. They may also be a case for a single 'phablet-config --get-my-device-ready' or somesuch that covers any and all steps that need to be disabled between flashing and running a test, but that may be something for another day. === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea [14:34] Laney: thanks for the review - I'll get to the renaming [14:34] AlbertA: cheers, not sure what to do about the other comment mind [14:35] charles: on https://code.launchpad.net/~albaguirre/indicator-power/use-new-brightness-dbus-interface/+merge/223339 [14:35] pitti ev is it possible to only have apport/whoopsie run when I'm connected to a power source? [14:35] charles: what do you mean to remove the brightness code? [14:35] charles: I mean it is currently being used... [14:41] he means that the indicator itself doesn't use it [14:43] sergiusens: going a bit deeper, is whoopsie waking up a lot for you? === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [14:47] ev I guess I just wanted to mean apport [14:47] if a crash happens, creating the report is rather intensive [14:49] Laney: I see...well this is only a transitional patch anyway...I want to get all the powerd/unity-system-compositor screen state changes in [14:49] * Laney nods [14:49] Laney: but avoid regressions... we can clean it up after that lands [14:52] AlbertA, Laney: my point is that it doesn't make sense to do upkeep / patches on code for features that we're not using [14:52] the wider 'we' is [14:52] charles: but it's currently being used though by system-settings...otherwise I wouldn't have the need to patch it [14:53] but hold the phone, the point may be moot [14:53] sergiusens: it doesn't currently do that, but of course we could teach it to; but I suppose that won't make ev very happy as it skews the statistics a lot? [14:53] yep, sounds like mpt and seb128 are haggling out a deal to keep it :-) [14:53] that would be a big concern, yeah [14:53] pitti: my personal use case is being on the road all day and having a buggy app [14:54] Mirv, chrisccoulson: I filed bug #1332122 to track the regression with playcanvas games on Qt 5.3 [14:54] bug 1332122 in Oxide "[regression] playcanvas games don’t work anymore with Qt 5.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1332122 [14:54] sergiusens: if it's just for your personal use case, you can easily disable apport [14:54] sergiusens: apport has a crash rate limiting though, so it shouldn't hit too often for one app [14:54] I'd rather see us optimise apport to be a bit lighter than try to hack around it [14:55] pitti, why would delaying reports until you’re on power skew the statistics? It wouldn’t change the total number of reports, just when they’re submitted. [14:55] pitti: heh; strange, I had that for mediascanner a moth ago; loaded a song that the scanner didn't like and I had an eternal loop of crash + collection [14:55] seb128, this is the MP for settings https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/libqofono/+merge/223736 [14:56] AlbertA, Laney: fwiw I'm not against either of your patches, I'm just against doing upkeep on code that we won't use [14:56] AlbertA, Laney: since seb128's talked mpt into keeping the slider, that argument's moot now ;-) [14:56] kenvandine, thanks, adding to my review queue [14:56] charles: get to reverting! [14:57] charles: sure... I just need this transition patch since I'm requesting to land some powerd/usc display state changes [14:57] Laney, yep. I want to make those dbus sync calls async instead [14:57] mpt: this is about generating the report at all, not when we send it [14:57] AlbertA: right. I'll approve your patch as an interim step [14:58] ev, sure, I used “submitted” as a catch-all for generation+submission (perhaps I shouldn’t have) [14:59] AlbertA, can you push the fixes for Laney's comments wrt naming and dependencies? [14:59] charles: yes I'm about to...just making sure it compiles === jhattara_ is now known as jhattara [15:07] fginther, https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/phablet-tools/welcome-wizard-disable/+merge/223766 and https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/ubuntu-test-cases/no-wizard/+merge/223768 [15:19] dholbach: hi! couple of questions [15:20] Laney: charles: I don't see a dependency on powerd currently in debian/control.... should I add one for usc? I mean it's dbus so it's a build dep [15:20] it's not a build dep I mean [15:20] dholbach: I noticed http://askubuntu.com/q/485401 earlier today, and wrote a (rather exensive) answer to it. istr you sometimes link these questions in various places, so thought I'd mention it [15:21] dholbach: also, we currently have http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/apps/security-policy-for-click-packages/. that is for 13.10. did someone update it for 14.04/14.10? 14.10 should have something on scopes too [15:22] AlbertA: Right, Depends not Build-Depends [15:22] jdstrand, a large bunch of the scopes docs (including publishing) needs to be documented still [15:22] powerd ought to be there too [15:22] unless there's graceful degradation in which case Recommends [15:22] jdstrand, and no, AFAIK the security policy isn't updated yet and I don't know if anyone has it on their todo lists [15:22] dholbach: I'm I able to do that with the new system? [15:22] jdstrand, I'll add http://askubuntu.com/q/485401 to the click-reviewers-tools doc [15:23] I could take a few minutes and update that single page [15:23] err, I mean, add the link to the code [15:23] jdstrand, that'd be awesome - do you have an account on developer.u.c? [15:23] * jdstrand clicks 'sign-in' [15:24] oh no, that is for myapps [15:24] dholbach: I don't know. where do I try? [15:25] I remember I wrote the initial one, you added it, I edited it, then I thought the system changed [15:26] mterry: saw your MP about disabling the welcome-wizard. When is that change going to land in phablet-tools? [15:26] ie - trying to understand how/when we should land this change [15:27] Laney: ok... === mhall119_ is now known as mhall119 [15:39] doanac, mterry poked me a little while ago about this and wants to land it in "the next few days" [15:42] fginther: ack [15:47] barry, ping re system-image-cli MRs :) [15:47] janimo: thanks! yes, getting to it :) [15:47] rsn :) [15:48] thanks :) [15:51] rsalveti: so we'd need robotfuel's word if we can publish or not next I think. meanwhile the departments unity8 landing is stuck in autopkg testing for >1h already. [15:52] I wonder if I should just m&c so I can start the unity8 rebuild already [15:53] hm, not sure [15:54] Mirv: I am looking at the last test now... [16:01] robotfuel: ok === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [16:16] Mirv: they pass locally for me so +1, I also found some other test that should be enabled to bump coverage levels up, but I don't think it should hold up the release. === brendand_ is now known as brendand [16:18] robotfuel: thanks! I'll proceed now with what's still needed for the landing === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [16:32] ogra_: so i captured some crash files y'day, one was "init"...was just looking at them, and i noticed "unity7 stop/waiting" [16:32] any reason ? [16:32] thats in ther [16:34] kgunn: ogra is on vacation today [16:34] popey: thanks...was more curiosity [16:34] than anything [16:35] dbarth, oSoMoN, hey, is that known that webbrowser segfaults in utopic if you try to copy/paste from its url entry? [16:35] weird..."xsession-init stop/waiting" in there too [16:36] Mirv: how long will you be on vacation? [16:36] robotfuel: 2 weeks [16:37] during that 5.3.1 should be hopefully out. [16:39] Mirv: I mentioned in the email how to fix the tests that are broken in the builders, but I'll have a MP for you when you get back, it's really simple. [16:40] Mirv: have a good holiday :D [16:41] seb128, on desktop you mean? [16:41] oSoMoN, yes [16:41] oSoMoN, trying to ctrl-C and doing ctrl-V in gedit under unity7 [16:42] oSoMoN, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7670010/ [16:42] robotfuel: thanks a lot! [16:42] could be an osk issue [16:47] seb128, this reminds me a similar crash I was seeing on trusty, could it be that you have maliit-framework installed on this desktop by any chance? [16:48] seb128, and if you do, does uninstalling maliit-framework make the crash go away? [16:49] oSoMoN, I do, otherwise that inputcontextplugin.so wouldn't be in the bt, and I'm sure uninstalling it would fix it since that's where it segfaults [16:49] oSoMoN, that both has unity8-mir-desktop and unity7 installed, so uninstalled it is not a solution [16:49] oSoMoN, but I guess you are saying it's a bug in the framework and not the app then? [16:51] seb128, yes, I think it is, would you mind filing the bug against https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maliit-framework/+filebug [16:51] oSoMoN, thanks [16:51] yw [16:52] Elleo, hey, around? could you have a look to ^ (see the pastebin url from 10 minutes ago) and tell me if it's a known issue? [16:56] seb128: it's not something I'm aware of, I haven't done much on the maliit-framework side yet though (I've mostly been focused on the ubuntu plugin so far) [16:56] seb128: but I'm going to be digging into the framework soon to try and sort out some memory consumption issues, so if you file a bug I'll have a dig into that at the same time [16:56] Elleo, do you know who is looking at that side? [16:57] Elleo, k, I can do that, thanks [16:57] seb128: at the moment I don't think anyone is (except upstream), but I will be doing so === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [16:59] I thought maliit didn't really have an upstream atm [17:00] I'm going to file that bug [17:00] let's see how that goes [17:01] Laney: quite possibly, I know the Jolla folks are also using it, but glancing at the maliit repos it doesn't look like there's been any activity in a while [17:01] maybe everyone's forked it [17:01] I'm sure Canonical must have changed stuff ... [17:02] i'm not really sure if we really modified anything in our packaging of it, either -- a lot of the magic is in the kbds themselves [17:02] yeah, maliit is quite nicely designed from that stand point [17:02] pretty much everything we do is just in our ubuntu-keyboard package [17:03] https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/maliit-framework [17:03] although I have a feeling there might be a few patches against it [17:03] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/165167788/maliit-framework_0.99.0%2Bgit20130615%2B97e8335-0ubuntu5_0.99.0%2Bgit20130615%2B97e8335-0ubuntu6.diff.gz [17:03] "Forwarded: no" [17:03] nice [17:03] Laney: what do you complain about? the tag is here! (j/k) [17:03] Laney: oh, a rationale? ;) [17:04] heh [17:04] the content of the tag :P [17:05] but yeah it hasn't changed /that/ much [17:05] would be good for someone to get upstream commit access and just push this stuff === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [17:06] yeah [17:16] robru, ping [17:16] ahayzen, pong [17:16] robru, hi just starting using the phablet-shell ... but when i start it, it first tries to use my github SSH key to authenticate... so i have to cancel it...is this expected? [17:17] ahayzen, what? it's not a complicated script, just read the source to see what it's doing [17:17] ahayzen, it copies your SSH key down to the device so that you can log in without a password [17:18] robru, idk i just installed it from the PPA and ran it ...was wondering why it was prompting me for my github SSH key? [17:19] ahayzen, my script does not have any knowledge of github. it shouldn't prompt you for anything, it should just copy your key down and then connect automatically without any prompting. that's the whole point, is that it *doesn't* prompt for anything. === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox [17:20] ahayzen, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7670231/ [17:21] robru, ah could this be the issue 'this script will push down the newest ssh key it can find in [17:21] ~/.ssh/*.pub, so if you find the wrong key being pushed down, simply use 'touch' [17:21] to make your desired key the newest one, and then this script will find it.' ? [17:22] ahayzen, I guess. that's just following the same rules as ssh-copy-id. [17:22] robru, yeah thts what it says in the code comments [17:22] ahayzen, yeah I know, I wrote those :-P [17:22] robru, magic that works :) [17:22] ahayzen, I don't see why it would be a problem though. do you not have the private key that corresponds to that github key? [17:23] robru, meanwhile nice job on the shell it is much better [17:23] robru, the github key was the latest [17:23] ahayzen, thanks, is it working then? I'm confused. [17:23] ahayzen, I don't know what you mean by "the github key". [17:24] $ ls ~/.ssh/*pub [17:24] /home/robru/.ssh/id_rsa.pub [17:24] robru, yeah after running touch against the ubuntudevice.pub it is working [17:24] and I use github all the time [17:25] ahayzen, I don't understand your SSH setup, and you're the first person who's had a problem with this [17:25] robru, i get 4 files back when i run that ... basically before when i ran phablet-shell it was asking me for my github password to unlock the keyring [17:26] ahayzen, are you using some kind of ssh key that was issued to you by github? Did you not just make your own key and then give it to github? [17:26] robru, but after running touch against it, it now picks the right one [17:26] robru, i think i made my own i don;t use it that much it was just for university work [17:26] ahayzen, ok, this is literally the first time I've ever heard of somebody having an ssh key that didn't Just Work with this script [17:27] robru, i think maybe i have too many SSH known hosts or something my RPis complain sometimes [17:27] ahayzen, hmmm, dunno, sorry. at least it's working now though... hopefully that "solution" didn't break github for you... [17:28] robru, thanks for ur help and the script :) [17:28] ahayzen, you're welcome === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === vying is now known as Guest45418 === kgunn is now known as Guest13280 [19:30] gallery crashes on my nexus7 [19:30] says permission denied on logs [19:31] on version 87 [19:37] anyone else got this issue? [19:41] lotuspsychje: could you grep for DENIED in /var/log/syslog? [19:42] lotuspsychje: if there's anything, please include those lines in the bug report :) [19:42] holdon [19:45] sarnold apparmor denied [19:46] exec gallery etc [19:46] tryed tail f on syslog [21:04] Hi all, i am new to phone apps i would likemake a sms importer but i can not find the sms api [21:05] Someone know where to find it ? [21:28] vince_, do you mean a way to import SMS messages from a SIM? [21:29] if so, this isn't isn't supported, and there really isn't an SMS-specific API available to apps yet [21:29] vince_, your best bet though it to send an email to the ML [21:30] as you'll get more eyeballs vs. asking on IRC [21:54] thanks awe_ [21:54] bye all [21:56] Anyone know if anyone has any plans for the G3 (LG)? I'm trying to decide if it's worth it to me to get that and risk having to delve back into things to work on porting it myself.