[05:36] <MooDoo> morning all
[06:10] <knightwise> morning everyone
[06:12] <Myrtti> morn
[07:37] <dwatkins> allo allo
[07:38] <TwistedLucidity> dwatkins: Weell you say dix only wance?
[07:39] <dwatkins> listen very carefully
[07:41] <MooDoo> I shall say thig only wernce ;)
[07:44] <dwatkins> I won't quote the guy with the terrible accent ;)
[07:49] <TwistedLucidity> I waz jist pissing by
[08:13] <dwatkins> Productivity increases significantly across Europe, as Facebook goes down...
[08:15] <MooDoo> or stops it even more with people pressing refresh :D
[08:15] <MooDoo> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+PaulMellors    just in case you've forgotten what I look like with FB being down lol
[08:15] <jpds> http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukelewis/37-things-only-british-people-will-find-amusing
[08:18] <dwatkins> MooDoo: that's you?
[08:18]  * dwatkins adds MooDoo 
[08:18] <MooDoo> dwatkins: if I owe you anything ...no no it's not, if I don't then yes it's me :D
[08:21] <dwatkins> MooDoo: hehe, no debts outstanding
[08:21] <dwatkins> http://www.product-reviews.net/2014/06/19/facebook-down-today-not-working-say-users/
[08:24] <MooDoo> dwatkins: adobe?
[08:24] <dwatkins> MooDoo: yeah
[08:24] <MooDoo> dwatkins: cool, watched the live stream last night adobe 2014 release
[08:25] <dwatkins> yeah, lots of updates
[08:26] <MooDoo> dwatkins: need to upgrade my version tonight, liking the look of the new blur features.
[08:27] <foobarry> how can i regain ops in a channel i made?
[08:27] <foobarry> i lost it and there's no ops. (freenode)
[08:27] <MooDoo>  foobarry is it registered to you?
[08:28] <foobarry> no .. i was getting round to that
[08:28] <foobarry> now i can't register it because i'm not ops
[08:28] <foobarry> and there's ppl in there
[08:28] <MooDoo> you can't then untill everyone leaves the channel and you re-open it
[08:28] <foobarry> ok meh
[08:28] <foobarry> should be ok
[08:36] <Myrtti_> I was just reading buzzfeed about 37 things only Britons can find funny
[08:36] <Myrtti_> and almost choked on my toastie
[08:36] <Myrtti_> http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-06/17/6/enhanced/webdr07/enhanced-6446-1403000460-1.png
[08:37] <TwistedLucidity> "fell under the breaks". Really?
[08:37] <Myrtti_> oh crikey these are awful
[08:37] <Myrtti_> some are definitely NSFW
[08:38] <TwistedLucidity> NSFW toasties?
[08:38] <Myrtti_> "hospital dash for Steve after corn snack binge"
[08:42] <ali1234> badgers?
[08:43] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Juneteenth and happy Sauntering Day! :-D
[08:44] <awilkins> I think I preferred Panic Day
[08:45] <TwistedLucidity> JamesTait: Happy Setting Orange, the 24th day of Confusion
[08:45] <JamesTait> TwistedLucidity, only the 24th?  I'm sure I've been confused for longer than that.  Or maybe I'm just confusing dates....
[08:46] <TwistedLucidity> Open terminal, run: ddate
[08:48] <popey> Morning all
[08:48] <popey> What a lovely day
[08:48] <daubers> Morning popey!
[08:48] <daubers> It's a horrid day for vampires
[08:48] <TwistedLucidity> popey: Not if you are a facebook network engineer it isn't
[08:49] <awilkins> What happened to Facebook?
[08:49] <MooDoo> it went down for about 30 mins the world  blew up
[08:49] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:49] <awilkins> Oh dear. I'm so sad.
[08:49] <popey> meh
[08:49] <popey> probably the 20 pictures I uploaded last night, must be ☻
[08:50] <awilkins> I see their new intelligence gathering effort is to promote people to gather more visual intelligence
[08:50] <awilkins> ie - that new Snapchat app where you pay to see your friends astounding pictures by uploading your own
[08:51] <MooDoo> I guess they must have just installed their steganography code into FB this morning then which is why  it went down ;)
[08:51] <awilkins> The notion that Facebook is somehow not a joint venture of NSA / GCHQ continues to be eroded
[08:51] <jpds> awilkins: You're suggesting Facebook are doing a truecrypt?
[08:51]  * awilkins waves at the SigInt techs monitoring this channel
[08:52] <awilkins> jpds, Naah, I don't think Facebook ever had any kind of notion of privacy, unlike TC devs
[08:54] <awilkins> Facebook ENCOURAGE you to give them more intelligence.... "Mark your friends in these photos! (to train our facial recogniser)"    "Enjoy our new app that only lets you see your friends photos if you upload your own! (so we can increase the amount of photos we can process - we delete them all, promise! After we store all the metadata!)"
[09:17] <ali1234> if two people each have a secret number, is it possible for them to compute the bitwise-AND of their numbers, without either of them revealing their number to the other, and without a trusted third party?
[09:17] <foobarry> somebody coding in mono on the HPC cluster :S
[09:18] <foobarry> ali1234: sounds like you need a computationally difficult hash key too?
[09:19] <directhex> foobarry, there are worse things
[09:19] <directhex> foobarry, like matlab
[09:19] <foobarry> no, matlab is better for HPC
[09:19] <foobarry> well it lets users easily do things on the cluster ..
[09:20] <foobarry> and can use GPUs too
[09:32] <ali1234> hmm ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_veto_network
[09:34] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:34] <popey> Morning
[09:34] <TwistedLucidity> That's a bit discriminatory.
[09:36] <TwistedLucidity> http://www.cscyphers.com/blog/2012/06/28/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-gender/ :-)
[09:46] <ali1234> TwistedLucidity: i don't understand the last point
[09:46] <ali1234> why does it link to a PDF about fish stocks?
[09:47] <TwistedLucidity> ali1234: An example of non-human genders?
[09:48] <ali1234> do catfish have different genders to humans?
[09:48] <TwistedLucidity> Although I see no listing of any kind of gender
[09:48] <TwistedLucidity> Amphibians would have been better - some can change theirs
[09:50] <dwatkins> Give it time, and we'll be able to do that.
[09:50] <TwistedLucidity> All the examples in that "series" are basically failing to consider the possibility of edge cases. Everything gets complicated when you look hard enough, but after a certain point you can consider those cases to be beyond scope.
[09:51] <TwistedLucidity> e.g. M/F is prolly good enough for general use, but not for a medical context.
[10:25] <Myrtti> some doggies for lunchtime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3Gl6T0CC2I and https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_1264266791&feature=iv&src_vid=s3Gl6T0CC2I&v=VEQXeLjY9ak
[10:33] <TwistedLucidity> Myrtti: The mongrel is now very confused
[13:46] <foobarry> mini bars bars after eating blue extra cheqing gum are super tasty
[13:46] <foobarry> hint of mint
[13:52] <dwatkins> mini mint bars
[13:52] <davmor2> bigcalm: oh looks like virgin gave me an update last night  http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3573241141 :)
[13:52] <foobarry> mars not bars
[13:53] <popey> davmor2: yay
[13:54] <popey> http://www.speedtest.net/result/3573245761.png
[13:54] <popey> amusingly the _difference_ between your speed and mine is faster than I ever got on ADSL ☻
[13:56] <davmor2> popey: I got a few browser open maybe :D  You know when chromium looks like a castle at the top rather than a browser and it has to expand the tab to fit the close x in :)
[13:58] <popey> I have been reigning in my tab usage
[13:58] <MartijnVdS> *gasp*
[13:58] <Myrtti> I honestly didn't know one can get a bruise on the sole of foot
[13:59] <bigcalm> Treading on lego?
[13:59] <bigcalm> davmor2: lucky man, I'm still stuck down here http://www.speedtest.net/result/3573256499.png
[13:59] <Myrtti> I stepped on a teapot shard we had missed to clean up and it lodged into my foot. Plenty of blood, lightheadedness, pain and inarticulate screming, panic sweats and tears.
[14:00] <Myrtti> this was yesterday
[14:00] <bigcalm> And I'll drop to a lower speed once I move to FTTC. But upload will be waaaaaaaaaaaaay faster
[14:00] <davmor2> popey: I opened every app in the apps queue and am slowly working through them there were a few.  About 10 tabs ago I finally got it so the tabs didn't move off the edge of the screen :)
[14:02] <davmor2> popey: and that is only Browser 1 there are then 2 other Chromium browser windows and 2 Firefox ones too :)
[14:17] <ali1234> the ink cartridge refilling went perfectly
[14:17] <ali1234> i didn't dye blue anything except my hands a bit
[14:19]  * awilkins boos ink cartridges
[14:19] <awilkins> I became a Laser Printer person and feel much better for it
[14:20] <ali1234> yeah we had this discussion already. some things you can't do with a laser like photos
[14:21] <MartijnVdS> you can do them fine
[14:21] <MartijnVdS> not great
[14:21] <MartijnVdS> but fine
[14:23] <davmor2> ali1234: depends on that laser printer.  There are some very expensive ones that do a wonderful job of printing pictures :)
[14:34] <JohnRobert> hello
[14:35] <foobarry> do most childminders accept childcare vouchers?
[14:35] <foobarry> registered ones
[14:35] <davmor2> foobarry: up to the childminder I guess
[14:36] <diplo> foobarry, depends who they're registered with from memory
[14:36] <diplo> Been a few years for me now
[14:36] <foobarry> is it socially acceptable or aanoying
[14:36] <foobarry> we only do 1 day a week but paying less would be nice
[14:37] <diplo> Acceptable and expected at the 2 nurseries we used, a lot of people used them
[14:37] <diplo> my ex used to work for one
[14:38] <foobarry> its a childminder from home
[14:38] <foobarry> works from home
[14:54] <diplo> Sorry was on the phone, foobarry - I'd just ask her if she is registered if she supports them.
[14:54] <diplo> Easiest way, if she wants the business, she'll get the money back from the goverment
[15:17] <foobarry> yeah
[15:42] <dogmatic69> I am running incron with a root file that should be executing a file but I get permission denied. Any idea why root can not execute a file?
[15:43] <dogmatic69> this is from syslog http://pastebin.com/c3vXtKjk
[15:53] <awilkins> dogmatic69, at a guess, the file doesn't have the x bit set
[15:53] <dogmatic69> awilkins:  its being sourced
[15:54] <awilkins> dogmatic69, You mean it's in a VCS?
[15:54] <dogmatic69> (. /foo/bar/script.sh)
[15:54] <awilkins> Ah
[15:55] <dogmatic69> and the actual script is just doing things like "composer update"
[15:55] <dogmatic69> I can source the file as root, but its only when "root" does it through incron it seems
[17:13] <bigcalm> directhex: Mirror's Edge in flash sale for £2.49?
[17:19] <popey> oooh steam sale!
[17:19]  * bigcalm grabs Mirror's Edge and Beatbuddy
[17:21] <bigcalm> For a grand total of £3.88
[17:22] <bigcalm> Disk space available: 5404 MB
[17:22] <bigcalm> Um. Oops :)
[17:22] <bigcalm> Time to buy a larger SSD
[17:22] <popey> or delete something?
[17:23] <bigcalm> Filesystem                   Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[17:23] <bigcalm> /dev/sdb1                     51G   44G  4.5G  91% /
[17:23] <bigcalm> Delete what? It's only a little 'un
[17:25] <bigcalm> I should set-up a dedicated gaming machine
[17:25] <bigcalm> Maybe once I've moved house
[17:27] <diddledan> mornin
[17:29] <ali1234> all the good games don't run on linux :(
[17:30] <diddledan> steam stream ftw
[17:31] <diddledan> stick a *cough*dows*cough* box in a cupboard with a meaty gfx and play games on your lappy with integrated gfx at max settings
[17:31] <ali1234> but i don't want to
[17:34] <directhex> bigcalm, i love ME, but it's not for everyone
[17:34] <directhex> ali1234, xcom released today & is excellent
[17:34] <directhex> and civ5 a week or two ago
[17:36] <ali1234> not really bothered about xcom, i can just play openxcom instead and it's better
[17:37] <popey> blimey, didnt know about openxcom
[17:37] <ali1234> they released 1.0 about a week ago
[17:37] <popey> has gollup spoken about it?
[17:37] <ali1234> i've played it through t completion and found two bugs, which they fixed before release
[17:37] <popey> seems a bit cheeky ripping off the gfx
[17:38] <ali1234> you need to get the game files yourself
[17:38] <popey> ah okay
[17:38] <ali1234> i believe it works with the version on steam
[17:41] <ali1234> they fixed all the bugs and annoying things too. like openxcom remembers your loadouts so you don't have to equip everyone at the start of every mission
[17:41] <ali1234> and objects stack on the floor, and there's no 80 item limit bug where everyone has a rifle and no ammo
[17:44] <MartijnVdS> Steam sale!
[18:11] <diddledan> WHEEEEEEE
[18:13] <daftykins> i received a processor today!
[18:13] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: what kind?
[18:13] <daftykins> a free LGA775 core 2 duo E6750
[18:14] <diddledan> freebies?
[18:14] <MartijnVdS> isn't E6750 like.. 5ish years old?
[18:14] <diddledan> that's not fair
[18:14] <daftykins> sure is
[18:14] <daftykins> everything i have in desktop form is LGA775 :)
[18:14] <daftykins> however my file server is currently on a 2GHz pentium dual core E2180...
[18:17] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/t50j9taoxabambb/IMG_20140619_173921.jpg
[18:26] <diddledan> love this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmPM-LZ-6y8
[18:34] <daftykins> only thing about that c2d is it came out of a machine that died apparently, so it's unknown as to whether it works
[18:34] <daftykins> i'm kinda umming and arring about whether it'd do any harm to my gear by testing it in the target system
[18:34] <daftykins> i'm sure it'll be fine ^_^
[18:35] <diddledan> I wouldn't expect a faulty cpu to damage the mobo
[18:35] <diddledan> but that's just my theory, I have no evidential proof
[18:36] <diddledan> I found that LGA775 mobos are hard to find these days
[18:37] <diddledan> even more so the cpus
[18:41] <daftykins> indeedy
[18:42] <daftykins> i think last time i looked i saw two or three LGA775 mATX boards on ebuyer
[18:42] <diddledan> yeah they don't seem to do full-sized lga775 boards now
[18:42] <daftykins> my gear is pretty old school :)
[18:43] <daftykins> Q6600 LGA775 desktop with 8GB DDR2, then that current E2180 pentium dual core in the server with 4GB DDR2
[19:07]  * diddledan watching 24 from last night
[21:08] <diddledan> hah, England lost their match
[21:09] <diddledan> whodathunkedit?
[21:09] <daftykins> excellent, perhaps the pubs will calm down now
[21:09] <daftykins> ;)
[21:09] <diddledan> does that mean the team can't go through to the finals?
[21:09] <diddledan> I hope so
[21:10] <diddledan> two losses for two so far
[21:10] <diddledan> there's gotta be only one more match for them in the group?
[21:10] <daftykins> i have no idea, i've not followed anything :D
[21:11] <daftykins> i didn't even know there was a world cup on this year
[21:13] <diddledan> heh
[22:08] <shauno> I think they still get through if italy completely mess up their next game
[22:09] <shauno> but basically, yes, they're coming home