[00:00] <asdfasdf> What's the official way of installing drivers from the command line?
[00:00] <asdfasdf> When I log in, the words "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS" don't disappear from the screen, and Unity doesn't come up.
[00:01] <Fevix> daftykins: Okay, but how do I get that to be a bootable drive that lets me install it to a hard drive?
[00:02] <aledzadza> how do i become a 1337 ubur h4x0r?
[00:02] <cerry> sdfasdf: hybrid graphics?
[00:03] <daftykins> Fevix: what OS are you on now?
[00:03] <cerry> *asdfasdf ~  sounds like my problem
[00:03] <asdfasdf> cerry, I don't think so
[00:03] <asdfasdf> I've got a GT218M
[00:03] <CyanBlob> holstein: Alright, I got it fixed. Resetting Unity did not work, but when I tried running pulseaudio from the terminal, it told me that it did not have proper permissions in my home directory, which I recently moved to a new partition. A 'chown' fixed that. Thank you for your help!
[00:03] <basketball> who here is good with printers
[00:03] <Fevix> daftykins: WIn7
[00:03] <cerry> asdfasdf: then i think we just have driver problems in common ;)
[00:04] <Fevix> I'm looking to install it to a different machine, not this one.
[00:04] <asdfasdf> Hahah
[00:04] <cerry> asdfasdf: you have Nvidia?
[00:04] <daftykins> Fevix: ok grab universal USB installer from pendrivelinux.com to make up the flash drive ^_^
[00:04] <asdfasdf> cerry, do you know what's the command for purging and reinstalling the drivers from the command line?
[00:04] <Fevix> daftykins: Okay, thanks!
[00:04] <cerry> i can help you search ^^; looking for drivers anway
[00:05] <daftykins> asdfasdf: is that an nvidia optimus setup?
[00:05] <aledzadza> no one can help me with that? :(
[00:05] <asdfasdf> daftykins, no
[00:06] <cerry> given the fact i have ATI and apt-get purge fglrx works for me I'd try
[00:06] <cerry> asdfasdf: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-*
[00:06] <OerHeks> aledzadza, how is that related to ubuntu support?
[00:06] <aledzadza> OerHeks: i want to become a linux guru
[00:06] <cerry> but maybe use tab completion instead copypaste the * blindly ;)
[00:06] <aledzadza> and this is only irc channel i know
[00:07] <asdfasdf> The weird thing is that lightdm comes up, and I can log in, it just never drops to Unity
[00:07] <cerry> aledzadza: be water my friend :)
[00:07] <asdfasdf> And I can't figure out how to reset unity now that the "--reset" flag no longer works
[00:07] <cerry> asdfasdf: exactly my problem!
[00:07] <aledzadza> i dont even know were to start
[00:07] <asdfasdf> cerry, have you tried the open source drivers?
[00:07] <asdfasdf> cerry, the laptop I'm using now uses radeon, and they're pretty decent
[00:08] <cerry> yes, these works for logging in but dont detect my external screen :C
[00:08] <asdfasdf> Oh I see what you're trying to do
[00:08] <asdfasdf> That sucks
[00:08] <cerry> pretty hard :C only downer but major one ;_;
[00:09] <Megabyte> Hey guys
[00:10] <Megabyte> how do I change my username on Ubuntu?
[00:10] <cerry> i found some intersting stuff here: http://askubuntu.com/a/288355 but it's late in good ol' EU so maye tomorrow I'll go down that road
[00:11] <daftykins> asdfasdf: there are guides online saying how to reset unity since the change
[00:11] <asdfasdf> cerry, thanks for the lead
[00:11] <Bashing-om> asdfasdf: I feel for you; Show us what we are indeed working with. Terminal code -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga <- to provide requested advise.
[00:11] <asdfasdf> daftykins, I can't find them, askubuntu usually has an answer but I can't find one now
[00:11] <cerry> asdfasdf: i thing thats for ATI… you should go for nvidea
[00:12] <daftykins> asdfasdf: can you log in at a TTY?
[00:12] <asdfasdf> daftykins, yes I can
[00:12] <daftykins> asdfasdf: can you run "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" ?
[00:12] <Corey84> having issues with FDE (luis with a usb /boot) on mint 17 after mounting /dev/sdd1 /mnt/boot and chroot / update-initramfs -u -k all gives a dpkg couldn't securely remove linux-image-3.13.
[00:13] <daftykins> !mint | Corey84
[00:13] <asdfasdf> daftykins, I've got nvidia-310, nvidia-319, nvidia-331, nvidia-libopencl1-331, nvidia-opencl-icd-331, nvidia-prime, and nvidia-settings installed
[00:13] <daftykins> ugh no wonder you have issues
[00:14] <daftykins> asdfasdf: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia*
[00:14] <cerry> ^^;
[00:14] <asdfasdf> daftykins, done
[00:15] <cerry> sudo service lightdm restart
[00:15] <daftykins> asdfasdf: reboot and see if you get in
[00:15] <daftykins> or that ^
[00:15] <asdfasdf> daftykins, I'm not going to have to reinstall the packages?
[00:15] <cerry> ;) got some practice today :P
[00:15] <daftykins> one step at a time.
[00:15] <Corey84> ubottu: i have I unfortuantely am one of about 5 guys there that understands luks and we all thought here might help
[00:15] <daftykins> Corey84: we don't help with Mint, sorry.
[00:16] <asdfasdf> daftykins, I not get the default wallpaper with a cursor that I can use to select
[00:16] <asdfasdf> daftykins, wait... something just happened
[00:16] <daftykins> well don't leave me in suspense, man!
[00:17] <asdfasdf> lol sorry, I'm on two laptops
[00:17] <asdfasdf> It's installing the flashplugin
[00:17] <asdfasdf> So  it looks like the WM is up, I just don't have any window decorations
[00:17] <daftykins> er, what?
[00:17]  * cerry gets excited, popcorn?
[00:17] <daftykins> ok, hrmm
[00:18] <cerry> can u open dash with superkey?
[00:18] <asdfasdf> Nope
[00:18] <asdfasdf> ctrl+alt+t doesn't work to bring up a terminal either, but I can use ctrl alt f1 to get one
[00:18] <asdfasdf> right click works
[00:18] <cerry> did you reboot or just restart lightdm?
[00:18] <asdfasdf> restarted lightdm
[00:18] <asdfasdf> Worth a reboot?
[00:18] <daftykins> asdfasdf: why not
[00:18] <cerry> maybe daftykins was right ;)
[00:19] <asdfasdf> hahah
[00:19] <daftykins> nah i don't think it should've done anything really
[00:19] <daftykins> maybe it could unload any booted in with kernel modules
[00:19] <daftykins> not sure
[00:19] <cerry> who understands computers after all *shrugs* ^^"
[00:19] <asdfasdf> This is exactly why I love Ubuntu... I hate dealing with X so much that I went to the first distro that supported it well
[00:19] <asdfasdf> And even now, what used to be a multi-hour headache is like not a huge deal
[00:19] <daftykins> so what kind of age laptop is this thing to have a 2xx series nvidia?
[00:20] <daftykins> GT218M, hmm
[00:20] <asdfasdf> HP elitebook 8440p
[00:20] <asdfasdf> Circa 2010 or 2011 IIRC
[00:21] <asdfasdf> So yeah, X comes up and I can log in.  Cursor works, it's just Unity that isn't appearing on the screen
[00:21] <daftykins> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/reset-unity-and-compiz-settings-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[00:21] <daftykins> asdfasdf: ^
[00:21] <asdfasdf> Usually I'd use "unity --reset", but that no longer works, and askubuntu doesn't seem to have a fix
[00:21] <asdfasdf> Oh well timed
[00:21] <Bashing-om> daftykins:  -> asdfasdf :: dconf-tools ??
[00:21] <daftykins> Bashing-om: they use a dconf command in that link above
[00:22] <Bashing-om> daftykins: : )
[00:22] <asdfasdf> When I run the dconf command I get "error: cannot autolaunch d-bus witout X11 $DISPLAY"
[00:22] <magesing> Hi everyone, I just installed ubuntu desktop along-side my windows 8.1 installation. Unfortunately I'm no-longer able to boot into my windows installation. How can I fix the boot-loader so that I can boot into both ubuntu and windows?
[00:22] <daftykins> asdfasdf: hmm, maybe it doesn't like not being run inside the GUI session
[00:23] <asdfasdf> daftykins, that's kinda what I'm thinking
[00:23] <cerry> magesing: do you use BIOS or UEFI?
[00:23] <catalase> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5lgwopmKMw
[00:23] <catalase> oops
[00:23] <catalase> wrong channel
[00:23] <daftykins> asdfasdf: i wonder if you can run a terminal session from the TTY and have it appear in X
[00:24] <asdfasdf> daftykins, I can't figure out how to tell it to use the display
[00:24] <magesing> cerry: don't know yet, it's a Thinkpad yoga that I just got today
[00:24] <asdfasdf> I intentionally stay away from Xorg because I hate it so much
[00:24] <magesing> cerry: appers to be UEFI according to google
[00:24] <cerry> magesing: brand new? smells like uefi to me
[00:25] <magesing> cerry: yes, brand new, just off the plane from shanghai
[00:25] <cerry> i've only encountered it once and was only windows booted - no grub appeared
[00:26] <cerry> there's some pretty "hardcore" with reinstalling grub but for me it was about the settings in bios, legacy mode > no secure boot … something else bout legacy …
[00:26] <magesing> cerry: well, the installer correctly made a list of options including both ubuntu and windows, but the windows option does not boot
[00:26] <daftykins> asdfasdf: hmm, can you install pastebinit from the TTY?
[00:26] <aledzadza> how can i make irssi make Ã¤Ã¥Ã¤?
[00:26] <magesing> cerry: actually, I'm going to restart again and make note of the messages I get
[00:26] <asdfasdf> daftykins, gimme a sec and I will
[00:27] <cerry> if its windows 8 you need uefi support somewhat i think - heard something like it wont boot if not. also some win7 version could be affected *shooting in the blue*
[00:27] <daftykins> asdfasdf: then look for ~/.xsession-errors if it exists ("ls -a ~/"
[00:27] <Cuken_> I need some guidance around the best way to setup the filesystem for 12tb of hard drive space on a fresh new 14.04 server install
[00:27] <asdfasdf> daftykins, I rebooted and was able to log in as a guest
[00:27] <daftykins> Cuken_: what's the server going to do?
[00:27] <aledzadza> 3
[00:28] <daftykins> asdfasdf: ah-har, so something funky with your user config indeed
[00:28] <histo> !partition | Cuken_
[00:28] <asdfasdf> one second while I get my wife (it's her computer) to log in and see if she is no longer having the issue
[00:28] <aledzadza> how do i change irssis charset to swedish??
[00:28] <Cuken_> daftykins I'm mainly going to use it as a NAS, however I was hosting a few gamer servers and ran LAMP last time
[00:28] <daftykins> Cuken_: i tend to like to keep server OSs separate from the storage
[00:28] <daftykins> so the OS remains on one disk
[00:29] <Cuken_> Which I've done so far, I have 4 x 3tb disks, i made a 30gig partition just for the os, made a swap partition as well even tho the server has 16gb of ram
[00:30] <asdfasdf> daftykins, cerry, Bashing-om thank you all.  I got it working thanks to your help!
[00:30] <Cuken_> My last server was running ZFS, but I was wondering if pursuing a different storage solution would be worth the effort.
[00:30] <daftykins> Cuken_: well no because i mean separate disk :) are those disks RAID'd?
[00:30] <Bashing-om> aledzadza: On irssi; might get better results in the #irssi channel.
[00:30] <asdfasdf> My wife sends her thanks as well, she thinks 14.04 is excellent
[00:30] <daftykins> asdfasdf: no problem :) that'll likely be using the default driver nouveau right now, but if 3D things aren't needed much, it should be just fine
[00:31] <Cuken_> ahh i follow you dafty, 3 of the discs are brand new, unfortunately this chassis only has 4 disc slots and I'm trying to maximize storage this time around.
[00:31] <cerry> asdfasdf: all glory to daftykins :> i just recommended purge and light-restart after that i was as lost as you ^^;
[00:31] <asdfasdf> daftykins, thanks for the reminder, I'll deal with that this weekend
[00:31] <daftykins> cerry: ;) teamwork \o/
[00:31] <Cuken_> none of the disks have been mounted or partitioned outside of the primary who has the 30gig os partition and the swap
[00:31] <aluchko> woo! got it booted
[00:31] <cerry> daftykins: \^^/ thanks for the unity reset-link though
[00:32] <daftykins> cerry: i can't confirm if it's useful, i don't use desktop
[00:32] <cerry> whats your choice if i may ask?
[00:32] <aluchko> turns out while I had a boot partition neither fedora or ubuntu were actually using it, they were both just installing to their own boot directories assuming the mbr would point there
[00:32] <cerry> for desktop
[00:33] <daftykins> cerry: hehe, a little off topic here really... i mostly administer ubuntu and debian servers is all... at home things are different ^_^
[00:33] <aluchko> I finally got grub installed in the boot partition, pointing to the ubuntu volume, but the only kernels there were a handful of old f17 kernels
[00:33] <cerry> ic :]
[00:33] <daftykins> Cuken_: ah-har, so you're not going to RAID these disks to pool them together at all?
[00:34] <Cuken_> . . . Im not so concerned about DR, I was going to use LVM or at least attempt to, but im not sure its the right move to make here
[00:34] <aluchko> though the f17 kernels could boot ubuntu 14.04 well enough to get a text console, from there I was able to reinstall a newer kernel which dropped the images in the boot partition had get things running
[00:35] <daftykins> Cuken_: i have no experience with LVM so i'm no use there
[00:36] <Cuken_> Let me ask how you would go about solving it then. If you didn't care about raiding and wanted to have a 12tb nas on ubuntu, how would you partition those drives?>
[00:37] <histo> Cuken_: I would through freenas on it personally
[00:38] <Bashing-om> aluchko: To see what grub thinks -> sudo debconf-show grub-pc , sudo grub-probe -t device /boot/grub , sudo grub-probe -t fs_uuid /boot/grub ( to verify the UUIDs).
[00:38] <Cuken_> I thought about that histo, but I want to be able to leverage ubuntu for other things while hosting the nas, IE servers for mumble etc.
[00:39] <histo> Cuken_: ahh... well how are you going to manage backups of 12tb?
[00:40] <Cuken_> I dont care about the backups right now, just need mass storage for a project i'm working on
[00:40] <aluchko> Bashing-om, it's finally working, I'm not going to start poking it again!!
[00:40] <Cuken_> I do care about data write and read speed tho
[00:41] <histo> Cuken_: then raid would increase rw speed, however if you will be accessing it over the network that will be your bottleneck.
[00:41] <aluchko> I also just finished forcing a re-install of unity and all it's dependencies because I thought the lack of multiple workspaces meant it was broken :)
[00:41] <Bashing-om> aluchko: Yeah, Talking to grub can be extrustiating !
[00:41] <histo> aluchko: probably means your configs are jacked up
[00:42] <aluchko> histo, nah, they just got disabled by default :(
[00:42] <AraHatAnagamin> Does iTunes work well with any linux distro?
[00:42] <aluchko> easily fixable but dissapointing
[00:43] <aluchko> Bashing-om, I'm just wondering if I trust both OS's to play nice and share the boot partition
[00:44] <Fall> I LOVE xfce with Whisker. Awesome stuff.
[00:44] <whitepowder> Any ideas what happened to the tw68-v2 driver for techwell 6804s? Got it off gitorious, cant get it built
[00:45] <Bashing-om> aluchko: Mind ya my knowledge of Fedora is minimal, but seems I recall that Fedora installs it's boot code to the partition, ubuntu installed grub to MBR and have grub chainload Fedora ?
[00:46] <whitepowder> Running kubuntu 14.04
[00:48] <aluchko> Bashing-om, how it worked for ages is that fedora went in first and set up with the boot partition, then ubuntu went in and rewrote the MBR to point to ubuntu
[00:49] <basketball> I have a usb printer (HP officejet 100 mobile printer l411) pluged into my linux laptop with the ip of 192.168.0.11. I hooked it up with cups and seleted share and the cups printer name is HP Officejet 100 Mobile Printer L411. How do I get windows 8 to connect to this printer?     It doesnt matter if i use cups or another service however we can get it to work.
[00:49] <aluchko> the ubuntu grub setup could find the fedora images whether they were in the boot partition of the fedora volume
[00:50] <Bashing-om> aluchko: OK, last system installed controls the booting process.
[00:50] <daftykins> basketball: you're saying a USB printer has an IP address... bit confusing.
[00:50] <aluchko> Bashing-om, at some point fedora started installing to the logical volume as well so there were ubuntu kernels in the ubuntu lv, fedora kernels in the fedora partition, and old fedora kernels in the boot partition
[00:51] <daftykins> basketball: oh the laptop has the IP i get it :)
[00:51] <basketball> daftykins,  no that is my laptops
[00:51] <daftykins> basketball: so you've installed and configured samba?
[00:51] <basketball> no
[00:51] <daftykins> which ubuntu is this?
[00:51] <basketball> 14.04
[00:52] <aluchko> the only thing I'm wondering now, since /boot is now the boot partition then where are all the files in the /boot folder of the actual ubuntu logical volume???
[00:53] <daftykins> basketball: this is pretty close: http://www.unixmen.com/sharing-printer-on-ubuntu-linux-with-windows/
[00:53] <daftykins> basketball: the "reboot samba" line is wrong though
[00:54] <basketball> daftykins, do i make it look just like that
[00:54] <aluchko> dagnamit, the whole reason I upgraded is so I could have a lyx version as new as the one on my f20 machine
[00:54] <aluchko> I still can't edit it because the 14.04 lyx version is too old
[00:54] <Bashing-om> aluchko: When booted from ubuntu, what returns from -> ls -la /boot <- .
[00:54] <daftykins> basketball: yes... keep a backup copy of the original though, so before you start run "sudo cp /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf.original
[00:55] <basketball> daftykins,  my printcup name is printcap name = /etc/printcap
[00:55] <basketball> do i need to change it
[00:55] <derrick13> hi all, i am using 12.04 ubuntu on the udoo, is there a way to use all newer packages instead of the older ones
[00:55] <daftykins> basketball: i have no idea what that parameter means.
[00:55] <basketball> should i just change it
[00:55] <aluchko> Bashing-om, oh it's the files from the boot partition, I just don't know what happened to the files from the volumes native boot folder :)
[00:55] <daftykins> derrick13: "udoo" ?
[00:56] <daftykins> basketball: you are welcome to try anything you think seems right, it can all be changed back again.
[00:56] <derrick13> raspberry pi on steroids
[00:56] <basketball> daftykins,  that command "sudo cp /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf.original   doesnt work
[00:56] <daftykins> basketball: it should. what does it say?
[00:56] <basketball> it give me a a line with > and a blinking _
[00:56] <whitepowder> Alternatively what are the oldest kernels could go back to on 14.04?
[00:56] <daftykins> basketball: you need to have installed samba first...
[00:56] <basketball> daftykins,  i did
[00:57] <basketball> and i have that file
[00:57] <daftykins> basketball: did you include the first " by accident or something?
[00:57] <whitepowder> 3.13.x i cant build a driver i *absolutely* need
[00:57] <basketball> daftykins,  yes :)
[00:58] <daftykins> ;)
[00:58] <daftykins> i forgot the second one, so we're even!
[00:58] <derrick13> can i use change the /etc/apt/sources.list file and change precise to tasty? Will that break anything
[00:59] <Bashing-om> aluchko: Sorry, I do not follow "volumes native boot folder" , ya mean the initial install of Fedora ?
[00:59] <Ben64> derrick13: that will break everything
[00:59] <aluchko> derrick13, you can do that but not update-manager?
[00:59] <whitepowder> Any news on tw68-v2 driver (for techwell tw6804 capture chip) on 3.13.x? Running ubuntu 14.04 presently but about to reinstall 12.10 i guess I *absolutely* have to have this driver working
[00:59] <daftykins> derrick13: the pi is not supported
[01:00] <daftykins> whitepowder: 12.10 is EOL
[01:00] <daftykins> whitepowder: this isn't an official place to ask about driver support
[01:00] <derrick13> daftykins: I am using udooubuntu, which is the ubuntu version for the udoo. It is based on precise, which has old packages.
[01:01] <aluchko> Bashing-om, nah. So both the fedora and ubuntu logical volumes have a folder called /boot that they stuffed kernels in, but now /boot is a folder that points to the actual boot partition, so I'm just curious what happened to the previous directory that used that name
[01:01] <basketball> daftykins,  how do i renboot samba
[01:01] <whitepowder> daftykins: And thats a problem why? At least my hardware will work....
[01:01] <daftykins> derrick13: indeed and i'm saying that that makes it unsupported i'm afraid.
[01:01] <Ben64> derrick13: we only support official ubuntu releases, udooubuntu isn't one
[01:01] <daftykins> basketball: sudo service smbd restart
[01:01] <derrick13> ok, thanks
[01:01] <daftykins> whitepowder: you'd be better off going back to 12.04 which *is* supported still, due to being an LTS release
[01:02] <basketball> daftykins,  ok and what happens if windows doesnt find it automatically
[01:03] <daftykins> basketball: that would be Windows support.
[01:03] <daftykins> basketball: do you know how to add a printer in Windows? go nuts.
[01:03] <aluchko> derrick13, it's not trivial to port the release to a new platform, sounds like they're still working on it http://www.udoo.org/forum/ubuntu-lts-t1316.html
[01:04] <whitepowder> daftykins: Fair enough. My big problem with my 12.10 install was that sound over hdmi suddenly quit working. It works good on 14.4 but.. No video capture :(
[01:05] <Ben64> whitepowder: drivers don't often disappear from the kernel
[01:05] <basketball> daftykins,  do i need to join the windows workgroup or something
[01:05] <pooltable> help installed minitube but it keep crashing any other like programs to download from youtube?
[01:05] <whitepowder> Ben64: its unfortunately not in the tree. If it was, it'd stay up to date in terms of kernel interfaces
[01:06] <daftykins> basketball: did you even try it yet?
[01:06] <derrick13> aluchko: thanks, maybe soon then
[01:06] <daftykins> whitepowder: what do you mean video capture?
[01:06] <basketball> daftykins,  how do i join it
[01:06] <daftykins> capture with what
[01:06] <Ben64> whitepowder: how did you determine this
[01:06] <daftykins> basketball: i'm talking about adding the printer
[01:06] <basketball> daftykins,  yes and it wasnt listed
[01:06] <whitepowder> derrick13: dvr stuff. have a chinese card with 8x techwell tw6804 (bt878 wannabes)
[01:07] <whitepowder> Ben64: Until a while back (say 12.x) there was a supported driver
[01:08] <derrick13> whitepowder, home automation development goals for the udoo
[01:08] <whitepowder> derrick13: wtf is a udoo?
[01:08] <derrick13> minicomputer and electronic prototype platform
[01:09] <daftykins> basketball: you know, when i try something and i'm explaining to someone what i see, i tend to use quite a few words and pictures where possible
[01:09] <whitepowder> derrick13: I use spook and motion to capture/stream/record security cameras because zoneminder ate way too much cpu. But this is a quad core machine, since we do 20fps on 8 cameras
[01:09] <basketball> daftykins,  what else do you need to know
[01:09] <whitepowder> Wonder if a 3.2.x kernel could be built on 14.04
[01:10] <derrick13> udoo quad is quad core also
[01:10] <pooltable> got splayer to work thanks
[01:10] <daftykins> basketball: so what were the steps on attempting to add the printer...
[01:10] <whitepowder> derrick13: Arm or x86_64?
[01:10] <derrick13> arm
[01:11] <basketball> daftykins,  i go to control panne  devices and printers
[01:11] <basketball> daftykins,  add a printer
[01:11] <whitepowder> quad core arm would choke and die dealing with this much video im fairly certain. I run quad 3.4ghz and sit around 60% CPU at peak, but either way looks like gotta track down a 12.04 iso
[01:11] <basketball> daftykins,  it searches for availabkle printers and doesnt see the shared one
[01:11] <derrick13> i agree
[01:11] <derrick13> http://www.udoo.org/features/
[01:12] <daftykins> derrick13: sorry but that's off topic for this channel
[01:12] <derrick13> udoo has 12.04 iso available, i just wanted to use newer 14.04 packages
[01:12] <daftykins> whitepowder: cdimage.ubuntu.com or releases.ubuntu.com
[01:12] <derrick13> daftykins: ok
[01:13] <aledzadza> how do i can for wireless ap's in command line?
[01:13] <aledzadza> scan
[01:14] <daftykins> aledzadza: iwlist scan, i think
[01:14] <whitepowder> just wondering if a better option is to try to get 3.2.x kernel running on 14.04 -- Not too sure with udev/upstart/all that madness thats come around in the last decade since i compiled a kernel by hand :P
[01:15] <daftykins> whitepowder: no, trying to go back with a kernel = massive breakage, then nobody would ever help you again with any issue
[01:15] <whitepowder> daftykins: Figured. Yet another reason to dislike upstart/udev/all that nonsense :(
[01:16] <daftykins> whitepowder: so anyway give 12.04 a whirl, since it's still supported - and beyond that, try to find somewhere relevant to your device, else don't buy cheap again? ;)
[01:17] <Cuken> sorry one more question all, im settupg LVM for the first time and my /dev/sda1/ show the system as GPT
[01:17] <Cuken> do i need to change it to an LVM to get it to work?
[01:17] <marcosfjl> suhfihsihisd
[01:19] <Harris_He> I logout with the "Save the session", but I can login anymore, it just show the login window time and times again. Xubuntu 14.04 LTS  Xfce4. How should I do to login my computer? THX
[01:20] <whitepowder> daftykins: $80 vs $400 is a bit of a difference.
[01:22] <tony_> can someone help with installing an nvidia driver? im having a hell of a time figure it out
[01:24] <daftykins> whitepowder: was the $400 worth the time spent messing with Linux support? :)
[01:25] <Bashing-om> tony_: What have you done to this time, that now must be undone before we can procedd to install any driver ?
[01:25] <Bashing-om> proceed*
[01:25] <tony_> well im on a fresh install of xubuntu 14.04, so havent broke anything yet :)
[01:25] <whitepowder> daftykins: Considering its worked for years now until going to 14.04? Absolutely.
[01:26] <tony_> ive installed the nvidia stuff from the software center and once i reboot all i get is a blank screen
[01:26] <tony_> ive got the driver downloaded from nvidias site
[01:27] <tony_> when i go to run that the script tells me i need to shut down X server
[01:27] <tony_> when i go into the terminal to shut down X server i get the same result. a blank screen
[01:27] <Bashing-om> tony_: So we are looking at a fresh install, nothing attempted to change the default driver ? -> have you looked at what "Additional Drivers" recommends ?
[01:27] <daftykins> sounds like an nvidia optimus system
[01:27] <tony_> ill check the additional drivers now. no i havent done anything yet
[01:28] <tony_> additional drivers doesnt list anything
[01:29] <tony_> none are available
[01:29] <daftykins> it would normally offer nvidia if you had nvidia hardware
[01:29] <tony_> well its a pretty new nvidia 750 ti
[01:29] <daftykins> tony_: in Linux land, or certainly in ubuntu land, you do not download drivers like Windows
[01:29] <Bashing-om> daftykins:  -> tony_ Always a good idea to look and see what we are working wqith ( HUH ?) .. tony_  -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga <- .
[01:30] <tony_> so do lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga in a terminal ?
[01:31] <Bashing-om> tony_: Last I looked ( a couple of months ??) The repositories had not caught up to that bleeding edge graphics card, Not sure what the status of the open source driver is .. lemme go look.
[01:31] <tony_> http://pastebin.com/gQ2dRhVS
[01:31] <tony_> thats whats list in the terminal
[01:32] <daftykins> yip that's a 750 Ti alrighty then
[01:32] <Bashing-om> tony_: lookin at gQ2dRhVS.
[01:32] <dimitry7> Hey guys, which software would you recommend to me to Fully wipe a disk of a compromised server?
[01:32] <tony_> bashing is that a file or something ?
[01:33] <tony_> ive tried "nvidia current" in software center but once i reboot all i get is a blank screen
[01:33] <barlie> dimitry7, What makes you think you need to do more than reinstall?
[01:33] <daftykins> dimitry7: 'dd'
[01:34] <dimitry7> barlie, idk, probablly an inserted malware into the boot sector
[01:35] <barlie> dimitry7, Make a new partition table, I doubt that is the case, you can 0 out just the mbr
[01:36] <daftykins> dimitry7: how big is the disk?
[01:36] <dimitry7> barlie, i just reinstalled it normally
[01:36] <dimitry7> 250 G
[01:36] <barlie> dimitry7, I assume  boot sector is the mbr here.
[01:36] <daftykins> won't take long to dd zero fill a 250GB drive.
[01:37] <barlie> dimitry7, This was a linux server?
[01:37] <dimitry7> barlie, yes, Debian
[01:37] <dimitry7> barlie, yes
[01:37] <Conna> o.O
[01:38] <barlie> dimitry7, You might ask #debian, not much actual malware in linux, more likely a rootkit
[01:38] <dimitry7> barlie, yes a rootkit
[01:39] <dimitry7> I am really afraid of those shits, have hit me 4 times now!
[01:39] <histo> dimitry7: did you format?
[01:39] <barlie> dimitry7, Never had the pleasure myself, if you keep getting hit you are not setting it up right I guess, I would not know anything in this area.
[01:40] <Bashing-om> tony_: Still appears a driver for your card has not made it to the repos to this time -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/425140/unable-toboot-with-nvidia-gtx-750-ti-even-with-latest-beta-drivers <- I like the the ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa option best.
[01:41] <dimitry7> histo, I used Gparted and deleted the partitions. Then made a normal debian installation creating a new partition table
[01:41] <Lorcatar> Should I use default jdk or gcj for compiling java
[01:43] <blade57> hi all
[01:43] <blade57> can i update from a usb drive
[01:44] <barlie> blade57, update what?
[01:44] <barlie> or is this upgrade a release?
[01:45] <daftykins> blade57: do you mean, use the flash drive as a repo of packages to update with?
[01:48] <barlie> dimitry7, So why are you here rather than #debian ?
[01:48] <barlie> or ##linux
[01:48] <aledzadza> why cant i update zentyal !??!
[01:49] <aledzadza> im gettingt abit frustrated
[01:52] <tony_> so anyone here with experience with installing nvidia drivers?
[01:53] <barlie> tony_, Many, share the problem and your hardware on the channel.
[01:54] <tony_> did a little while ago
[01:54] <tony_> i go to install nvidia driver form their website but it says i have to stop X server
[01:54] <infinmed> Hi guys I'm trying to install flash plugin for chromium in xubuntu and when I cp libflashplugin.so to /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins it still doesn't show up when i start chromium and do about:plugins; any idea?
[01:55] <tony_> i found the command on google to stop the x server but all i get is a blank screen after that
[01:55] <Ben64> tony_: don't install the drivers from nvidia's website
[01:55] <histo> !nvidia | tony_
[01:55] <tony_> ive also tried a couple drivers in software center for nvidia but after they install and i reboot, im left at a blank screen again
[01:56] <histo> tony_: use the hardware drivers thing in the dash to install the drivers
[01:56] <barlie> tony_, people come and go always just do as I suggested if you want help.
[01:56] <daftykins> tony_: so you need to switch to a TTY to carry on the install... so you'd hit ctrl+alt+f1
[01:57] <daftykins> Ben64: do they not have support for the 750 Ti yet?
[01:57] <aledzadza> how come my zentyal objects always fails to install?
[01:57] <Ben64> daftykins: need at least 334.21 for 750ti support
[01:57] <tony_> so doing ctrl+alt+f1, that will shut down the x server thing?
[01:57] <Ben64> tony_: once again, don't install from nvidia's website
[01:58] <barlie> tony_, Just give you a tty
[01:58] <tony_> where is this dash thing ?
[01:58] <daftykins> Ben64: if he can't use it any other way what other option is there 0o
[01:58] <barlie> no shutdown tony_
[01:58] <Ben64> daftykins: a ppa
[01:58] <barlie> tony_ Dash is the search top button in left panel or the windows key.
[01:59] <tony_> what do i put in the search box?
[02:00] <daftykins> tony_: i can understand Ben64's idea - if you install manually from nvidia's site, every time you get a new kernel via updates to ubuntu, it may break and require reinstalling
[02:00] <barlie> tony_, Whatever you are looking for, it has limitations.
[02:00] <tony_> so if i dont install the drivers from nvidias website? and none of the nvidia stuff works in software center, then what?
[02:01] <Ben64> tony_: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[02:01] <tony_> k ill look
[02:01] <micros> hello. i am running apt-get install vsftp but getting a 403 Forbidden error. any ideas?
[02:05] <acanthus> hey I'm ipv6 capable, have an address thats routable etc, my resolver despite having "nameserver 2607:f2f8:a2c4::1" still gets ipv4 addresses by default how do I change this
[02:06] <acanthus> my bind server is capable of giving me aaaa records but my resolver doesn't request them, it requests a and is like "k I did it right" but no
[02:07] <acanthus> nevermind I think I found something http://askubuntu.com/questions/32298/prefer-a-ipv4-dns-lookups-before-aaaaipv6-lookups
[02:07] <acanthus> except this is the opposite problem I'm having
[02:08] <aledzadza> how come my zentyl objects always fail to install? using apt-get
[02:08] <dauntl3ss> hey guys, I have an ubuntu machine connected to the internet via my laptop (ethernet cable to laptop + laptop wifi) because I have no moniter cable. I'm trying to SSH into the machine via putty, is there anyway to know what the IP of that machine would be ? (internal IP) I can't get into my router
[02:09] <aledzadza> dauntl3ss: check your router settings
[02:09] <dauntl3ss> my laptop lists 2 different internal addresses 1 is the normal one -- 192.168.1.10 and but the LAN connection says 192.168.137.1
[02:09] <dauntl3ss> aledzadza, can't get into my router right now
[02:11] <dauntl3ss> I'm at my dad's house, he's sleeping and I don't know the PW
[02:11] <daftykins> acanthus: zentyal? that's not ubuntu.
[02:12] <aledzadza> dauntl3ss: just try anything from 192.168.0.1-10 ???
[02:12] <dauntl3ss> aledzadza, I have been, no luck :(
[02:12] <dauntl3ss> that's why I'm here asking :)
[02:12] <dauntl3ss> if there's a way to determine that since my connection is going thruogh my laptop
[02:13] <Ben64> dauntl3ss: could you explain your network setup better
[02:13] <aledzadza> Ã¥Ã¶Ã¤Ã¶
[02:14] <aledzadza> sorry
[02:14] <dauntl3ss> Ben64, sure sorry. I have a wireless router. I have a laptop that is connected to it. My PC which is ubuntu server is plugged into my laptops LAN port. and my laptop is sharing my WIFI connection to the ubuntu server.
[02:15] <newvirus> wifi free internet
[02:15] <Ben64> dauntl3ss: that is very strange
[02:16] <micros> anyone know why apt-get install vsftpd might return a 403 forbidden error?
[02:16] <daftykins> aledzadza:  zentyal? that's not ubuntu.
[02:16] <Ben64> micros: the repo is down?
[02:16] <dauntl3ss> Ben64, well the house is 2 story, and the port on the wall that goes downstairs is broken, so the only other choice is WIFI and since that PC doesn't have a wireless card, I figured I can share it with my laptop
[02:17] <barlie> micros, Run a regular apt-get update and pastebin it.
[02:17] <dauntl3ss> I did an IP config ALL and I got  192.168.137.1(Preferred) for the LAN port on the laptop. does that mean the ubuntu is sharing that IP?
[02:17] <aledzadza> daftykins: what should i use then? lol
[02:17] <daftykins> aledzadza: not this channel... since it's not your OS?
[02:18] <daftykins> aledzadza: perhaps to top off your evening you could go ask for some BSD support in #windows
[02:18] <micros> barlie - i did, no errors
[02:18] <Ben64> daftykins: zentyal isn't a distro...
[02:18] <grimeton> if you ask for network stuff, you'll get answers
[02:18] <grimeton> microsoft copied the basic network stack from bsd
[02:18] <micros> i am incorrect.
[02:18] <micros> forgot sudo... 1 sec
[02:18] <grimeton> that's why ntds drivers can be used with the BSD derivates available :D
[02:19] <grimeton> s/ntds/ndis/
[02:19] <micros> !paste
[02:19] <micros> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7666722/
[02:19] <micros> no errors
[02:19] <Ben64> micros: raring is no longer supported
[02:19] <barlie> micros, Raring is eol
[02:19] <daftykins> damn , i read "the Linux small business server" and it sounded like a distro.
[02:20] <barlie> !raring
[02:20] <Ben64> !ebox | daftykins :)
[02:20] <blade57> sorry for the delay i had my wife trying to talk to me when started this
[02:20] <grimeton> daftykins: look into clearos
[02:20] <daftykins> oh wait... yes it is!
[02:20] <micros> hmm... but of course this is what the image on the EC2 happens to be... would be alot of work to update it, right?
[02:20] <daftykins> grimeton: why are you talking to me about things, i do not have a question, i'm a helper, not a helpee
[02:20] <micros> and i would imagine vsftpd would work on it.
[02:21] <Ben64> micros: you shouldn't be running an outdated server, that's begging for trouble
[02:21] <barlie> micros, You have no support here unless you are running a release not eol.
[02:21] <grimeton> daftykins: you never know
[02:21] <micros> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7666729/
[02:21] <kostkon> !eolupgrades | micros, 2 upgrades, 13.04 to 13.10 then 13.10 to 14.04
[02:21] <micros> hmm
[02:21] <grimeton> micros: vsftpd on the latest ubuntu releases WILL NOT work
[02:21] <kostkon> hmm
[02:21] <grimeton> micros: there is this kernel bug ...
[02:22] <daftykins> grimeton: off topic is off topic
[02:22] <micros> ok.
[02:22] <blade57> i have a old dell that is running 12.04 lts and i want to update it to 14.04 and i can't use the internet to do so. can i update it from a usb drive
[02:22] <micros> can anyone recommend a replacement?
[02:22] <Ben64> micros: step 1 is get a supported version of ubuntu
[02:22] <kostkon> micros, 14.04
[02:22] <kostkon> micros, supported until 2019
[02:22] <micros> my goal is to be able to have anonymous access, with encryption... no pem required though.
[02:22] <micros> (if possible to do it w/o a pem on the client)
[02:23] <aledzadza> x<
[02:23] <aledzadza> X<
[02:23] <aledzadza> daftykins: very funny :(:(((
[02:23] <barlie> blade57, No but you can install 14.04
[02:24] <barlie> blade57, 12.04 has three more years of support though.
[02:24] <yvan_> oi
[02:25] <SonikkuAmerica> micros: If you're really concerned about anonymity and privacy Ubuntu isn't exactly the distro you'd wanna use...
[02:25] <blade57> barlie yea but i don't like my wifi card and i have to use a cable to get on  line
[02:26] <micros> not really concerned... would like to encrypt connection but have anonymous access...
[02:26] <micros> write only.
[02:26] <barlie> blade57, Wifi is not your best move anyway any version is hackable, all you need is the packets.
[02:26] <erratic> hi
[02:26] <erratic> my resolv.conf isnt working right its giving me ipv4 addresses should be 6
[02:26] <erratic> should I report a bug
[02:26] <erratic> (s)
[02:26] <erratic> ?
[02:27] <SonikkuAmerica> micros: So you're telling us you want to log into your *computer* anonymously, or set up something like Tor to connect to the Internet anonymously?
[02:27] <erratic> SonikkuAmerica: hi
[02:27] <blade57> i have looked all over for the packets and i can't find it it works fine intell i update then i don't work at all
[02:27] <SonikkuAmerica> Ohai erratic
[02:27] <erratic> re ipv6
[02:28] <erratic> gai / resolver not working correctly
[02:28] <blade57> barlie, my wifi works fine with windows but as soon as i switch to ubuntu it gose down
[02:28] <barlie> blade57, windows is not relevant here in this context, different OS.
[02:29] <erratic>           inet6 addr: 2607:f2f8:a2c4::2/64 Scope:Global
[02:29] <blade57> barlie, i know i was just saying it so you all know that it was not my card
[02:29] <erratic> 2000::/3                       2607:f2f8:a2c4::1          UG   1024 0     0 tap0
[02:30] <barlie> blade57, Wifi usb's that work in linux are cheap on amazon, less than 10$
[02:30] <erratic> I can connect to ipv6 ips but my resolver gives me a records by default
[02:30] <erratic> never an exception
[02:30] <erratic> wtf do i do
[02:30] <SonikkuAmerica> erratic: Can't say I know, I only work with v4
[02:31] <erratic> I say its no thanks to the lamers who bitched about the default behavior now I'll bet some idiot has hardcoded the shit to only get a records
[02:32] <blade57> what i don't understand is it works intell i update my drivers then it goes down and some time the wired connection don't work ether
[02:32] <barlie> blade57, We wont either without the hardware info to start with.
[02:33] <tonyt> said screw it and disabled the nvidia card and am jsut using the onboard intel video for now
[02:33] <blade57> give me a bit and will be back on with it i have to switch to ubuntu and like i said it don't like to work with the internet
[02:35] <blade57> brb
[02:35] <erratic> 22:35 <erratic> if I do nslookup irc6.rizon.net it gives me nothing unless I dig aaaa irc6.rizon.net then I get hte ips and can connect to one manually
[02:35] <erratic> 22:35 <acf_> you have to nslookup -type=aaaa hostname
[02:35] <erratic> 22:35 <acf_> regardless of any settings
[02:35] <erratic> 22:35 <erratic> yeah but how do I make that the host default.
[02:38] <Bashing-om> tonyt: Hybrid graphics - Nvidia-prime or BumbleBee ; and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics .
[02:38] <tonyt> k ill look. thanks
[02:38] <erratic> but irssi no connecty
[02:38] <erratic> ffffffffffffffffffffffff
[02:38] <tonyt> intel video is fine. i can get 1920x1080 fine
[02:39] <tonyt> amd vid card too. not this new 750ti though
[02:39] <erratic> strangely enough
[02:39] <erratic> erratic@erratic-IdeaPad-S210-Touch ~ $ wget -O /dev/null http://google.com/
[02:39] <erratic> --2014-06-18 22:38:45--  http://google.com/
[02:39] <erratic> Resolving google.com (google.com)... 2607:f8b0:4007:801::1005, 74.125.239.2, 74.125.239.3, ...
[02:39] <erratic> Connecting to google.com (google.com)|2607:f8b0:4007:801::1005|:80... connected.
[02:39] <james0r> tried using this tutorial to backup my system http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087 , but i get a 'file changed while reading' error. i tried supressing it with --ignore-read-error but in the end got what looked like a corrupt file
[02:40] <Bashing-om> tonyt: Nvidia does not support linux in the hybrid drivers situation.
[02:40] <micros> is it possible to use sshd and have some users forced to supply a private key while others can login using password authentication?
[02:40] <erratic> jlkdsjf'lkdsakf
[02:40] <erratic> dsafjdskla'jf
[02:40] <erratic> af
[02:40] <erratic> dsaf
[02:40] <erratic> dsa
[02:40] <cfhowlett> erratic stop doing that
[02:41] <tonyt> k
[02:41] <james0r> is there a GUI tool for backing up that's pretty good? replacing my harddrive, want to backup my whole system and restore it on a new hard drive
[02:41] <cfhowlett> !clone|james0r
[02:41] <cfhowlett> !backup
[02:43] <DarkStar1> Hi all I am having problem with just setting the a null mail server (just tp send out notification mails)
[02:50] <rodney77> Hi, when I connect my external HD, it sometimes mounts to /media/xthd, and sometimes /media/myuser/xthd. How to I make it so it always mounts to the same directory?
[02:55] <[[thufir]]> how do I install sugarCRM?  http://www.ubuntu.com/news/SugarCRM  seems to imply it's in the repo's
[02:55] <cfhowlett> !info sugarcrm
[02:56] <[[thufir]]> cfhowlett: that's what I thought.  weird.
[02:57] <cfhowlett> [[thufir]] aso references 6.06 - so old news???
[02:57] <Bashing-om> [[th
[02:58] <Bashing-om> [[thufir]]: Does not exist in 13.10 either ->  apt-cache search sugarCRM, returns void.
[02:58] <[[thufir]]> well, I mean, it's not like SugarCRM is obscure.  just checking...
[02:59] <kostkon> !find sugar
[03:00] <[[thufir]]> but what are those?  plugins, extensions, and libraries?
[03:00] <pavlos> seems you have to go to https://store.sugarcrm.com/
[03:00] <aledzadza> what charset does standard swedish keyboard have?
[03:00] <aledzadza> ISO 8859 something
[03:00] <sweaves> hello all
[03:01] <sweaves> i have laptop with new ssd installed, never touch is process of installing ubuntu same as with reg hd?
[03:04] <Beldar> sweaves, never touch?
[03:04] <sweaves> oh what i mean is its brand new
[03:04] <Beldar> sweaves, Yes same install.
[03:04] <sweaves> ok thanks
[03:04] <sweaves> i wasnt sure
[03:05] <psyrus> i got my system back online
[03:05] <psyrus> thanx for all the help last night
[03:05] <Beldar> sweaves, Sure, good question better to know, you can set up trim and a few other tweaks.
[03:05] <sweaves> beldar is that after install?
[03:05] <sweaves> cause im reading about that now
[03:06] <Beldar> sweaves, Yes, here is a link I use for ssd https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[03:06] <sweaves> thanks
[03:06] <sweaves> :)
[03:06] <Beldar> np
[03:07] <psyrus> ya'll are wicked cool tk tk
[03:10] <psyrus> (btw :/ i'm gunna use easybcd for now on i think it's better than grub ... imo ..) sry
[03:10] <willwh> !find splendid
[03:11] <willwh> anyone using drizzle?
[03:11] <Beldar> psyrus, all esybcd does is take you to grub juat a third app.
[03:12] <psyrus> i like it's versatility ....
[03:12] <Despitus> Hello
[03:12] <psyrus> i use wd more than unix
[03:12] <Beldar> psyrus, Cool, I think if you understood grub you would probably feel different,  but your choice is free.
[03:12] <Despitus> Just testing! First time on irc
[03:13] <newvirus> licks Despitus
[03:13] <newvirus> download me
[03:15] <Beldar> newvirus, sure but you wont run in linux. ;)
[03:15] <psyrus> ya'll take care I luv you ya
[03:15] <psyrus> gtg
[03:16] <somsip> !ignore | Despitus (worth knowing this one...)
[03:16] <Despitus> Thanks guys.
[03:22] <bruce__> hello
[03:22] <bruce__> I'm new here
[03:23] <cfhowlett> bruce__ ask your ubuntu question
[03:23] <bruce__> quit
[03:25] <bruce__> Quit
[03:25] <asdofindia> bruce__, press the main menu button on top right, choose shut down
[03:26] <genii> bruce__: You probably want /quit
[03:28] <Smrtz|nix> Hey, I'm trying to set a static IP at boot, and I'm editing /etc/network/interfaces, but it's not setting at boot.  Is there anything else I need to do?
[03:30] <genii> Smrtz|nix: Perhaps if you pastebin that file, we can examine it
[03:30] <genii> !pastebin
[03:30] <[[thufir]]> when I unzip sugarCRM in /var/www/html should I do so with sudo?  I seem to run into different permissions problems durin the install.
[03:30] <holstein> http://sfxpt.wordpress.com/2014/05/11/use-dbab-under-ubuntu-14-04-trusty/ seems a nice resource about that file Smrtz|nix
[03:31] <Smrtz|nix> genii: I would have included a link in my original comment, but it's on a different computer with no network access.
[03:31] <holstein> [[thufir]]: i'll just unzip somewhere else, and move with sudo
[03:31] <[[thufir]]> I see, thx.
[03:32] <Smrtz|nix> genii: I'll take a picture and imgur it...
[03:33] <holstein> Smrtz|nix: use a usb stick to transfer.. or anthing that can make it easy for a volunteer to assist
[03:33] <histo> Smrtz|nix: you ahve to auto eth0   or replace eth0 with whatever interface name so it comes up on boot
[03:35] <genii> histo: But how do we know this is the problem until we see their interfaces file? Assumptions, etc
[03:36] <Smrtz|nix> Here's a pastebin that I manually copied over: http://pastebin.com/arwxtR3M   And the imgur: imgur.com/VCgh2EX
[03:36] <Smrtz|nix> histo: ip link returns that my wired interface is eth0
[03:36] <Fistful_of_Coins> hi, i'm trying to run a command before shutdown on an ec2 instance, following this technique: http://rogueleaderr.com/post/48795010760/how-to-notify-email-yourself-when-an-ec2-instance
[03:36] <Fistful_of_Coins> it does not work, is there a better way to do it?
[03:37] <genii> Smrtz|nix: "Pastebin.com is under heavy load right now :("    <has a coffee and waits aminute to refresh>
[03:37] <Fistful_of_Coins> it's an ubuntu 14.04 instance
[03:38] <histo> Smrtz|nix: looks good should come up now
[03:39] <Smrtz|nix> histo: nope.  When I restart networking and run ifconfig it doesn't show an IP.
[03:40] <histo> Smrtz|nix: if you ifup eth0  does it then show an IP?
[03:40] <genii> Smrtz|nix: I think you need something more like: auto eth0   by itself. Then on NEXT line the iface eth0 inet static
[03:40] <Smrtz|nix> histo: nope.
[03:41] <Smrtz|nix> genii: let me try that...
[03:41] <histo> Smrtz|nix: yeah sorry auto eth0 above all the iface
[03:43] <Smrtz|nix> genii: histo:  Nope, that didn't change anything.
[03:44] <histo> Smrtz|nix: let me look again hold up
[03:44] <genii> Smrtz|nix: ....also remove the colons
[03:45] <Smrtz|nix> genii: let me check that too.
[03:46] <histo> Smrtz|nix: yeah your file syntax is all screwed up
[03:46] <Smrtz|nix> Yep, that worked.  it's good now.
[03:46] <histo> Smrtz|nix: http://pastebin.com/zb1if6VM
[03:46] <genii> Smrtz|nix: Good :)
[03:46] <Smrtz|nix> Thanks for the help you guys!
[03:47] <histo> np
[03:47] <histo> Smrtz|nix: remember man /etc/network/interfaces   also
[03:47] <genii> Or, just: man interfaces
[03:47] <Smrtz|nix> histo: right, that's where it is.
[03:53] <Paulus68> seems the channel is slow :(
[03:53] <genii> That can be a good thing. No News Is Good News, etc
[03:54] <holstein> !ot
[03:54] <holstein> if you want to chat, you can use the offtopic channel ^ its usually got more casual chatting going on and activity
[03:56] <genii> Paulus68: Since this is a support channel, that it's quiet is good in that it means most people aren't experiencing issues they need to seek support for. As holstein mentions, for casual talk not support-related, there is always the #ubuntu-offtopic channel.
[03:56] <arog> hi
[03:57] <arog> can someone help me setup NFS please?
[03:57] <arog> i did: apt-get install nfs-kernel-server  then in /etc/exports I did: /home/user/media 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(ro,async,insecure,no_subtree_check,nohide)
[03:57] <Paulus68> I have bought a samsung monitor S24D300 when connected with the VGA cable to my laptop it works, when trying to connect to desktop(also ubuntu) I can't get any signal when using VGA or HDMI any Ideas on how to solve this
[03:58] <arog> and then /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart
[03:58] <holstein> Paulus68: graphics drivers, if they are available, that support running linux on the hardware
[03:58] <holstein> !ati | Paulus68
[03:58] <holstein> arog: all i can suggest is https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-file-system.html
[04:00] <genii> arog: Might want to call it as an upstart job instead of directly running the old sysvinit script
[04:00] <histo> arog: what is the issue then?
[04:01] <arog> histo i cannot connect
[04:01] <histo> arog: from the clien showmount -e servername/ip
[04:01] <arog> i am on a mac
[04:01] <arog> i tried nfs://hostname
[04:01] <arog> no work
[04:01] <arog> even nfs://ip
[04:02] <arog> oh hey! i dont have access that's good
[04:02] <arog> time to figure out that now
[04:03] <histo> arog: ont he nfs server expoortfs -rav
[04:03] <Paulus68> lspci |grep vga no output in terminal  lshw -C video gives this output http://pastebin.com/PN994z5P  monitor is gonna be used as dual screen primary screen is also samsung
[04:04] <histo> arog: don't have access to what?
[04:04] <arog> on my mac when i try connecting to nfs://server
[04:04] <genii> Random thingy: If a service is already started by upstart it has a particular pid associated to being run from upstart. So then if you try to start the same daemon, say, by running it's /etc/init.d script manually, it will cause issues.
[04:04] <arog> it says: expoortfs -rav
[04:04] <arog> oops
[04:04] <arog> You do not have permission to access this server.
[04:05] <genii> I'll just leave that out there and go back to coffee.
[04:06] <histo> arog: fix your perms then and reexport with the command above
[04:07] <arog> yea im trying to figure out where that is stored ;)
[04:07] <histo> arog: ini your exports file
[04:10] <arog> is samba easier to setup
[04:10] <histo> arog: your ip addressing in there is wrong
[04:10] <histo> arog: just try with *  inplace of the ip addresses to test
[04:11] <histo> arog: 192.168.1.0/24  would be more appropriate
[04:12] <arog> tried that too
[04:12] <arog>  -- /home/user/media 192.168.1.*/24(ro,sync,no_subtree_check)
[04:12] <arog>  -- /home/user/media 192.168.1.0/24(ro,sync,no_subtree_check)
[04:12] <histo> arog: chnage it to: /home/user/media *(ro,insecure)      then save and exportfs -a
[04:13] <genii> arog: If I may suggest: Put a space or tab after the netmaksk and before the left parenthesis. Also, instead of trying to directly call the /etc/init.d script, use instead something more like sudo service nfs-kernel-server restart
[04:13] <histo> genii: that doesn't matter
[04:13] <arog> what does exportfs -a do?
[04:14] <arog> same thing
[04:14] <arog> ill look at this later
[04:14] <arog> gotta bounce
[04:14] <genii> histo: The space/tab may not matter. But after you install nfs-kernel-server, upstart runs it. Which means that it has a pis in /run or /var/run specific to being run from upstart. So if you directly call the old sysvinit script, it won't do much.
[04:15] <genii> pis->pid
[04:15] <histo> arog: sorry exportfs -rav   will reexport all directories in /etc/exports
[04:15] <histo> genii: the init script is an alias
[04:16] <genii> histo: upstart runs all sysvinit stuff through it's own job called rc-sysinit.conf
[04:16] <genii> ( which pre-empts running it from the init.d )
[04:18] <histo> When are you guys going to implement systemd?
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | Paulus68
[04:27] <[gnubie]> in my ubuntu 14.04 lts amd64 system, i am wondering why the “Updated” column on the output of smartctl for my ssd is “Offline”..
[04:27] <[gnubie]> # smartctl -data -A -d 3ware,0 /dev/twl0 | grep Media_Wearout_Indicator
[04:27] <[gnubie]> 233 Media_Wearout_Indicator 0x0000   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       100
[04:27] <[gnubie]> how to set it to always
[04:27] <histo> Why?
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> [gnubie]: what are you trying to do exactly?
[04:28] <histo> People come up with the weirdest stuff.
[04:28] <histo> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem
[04:29] <[gnubie]> i just want to monitor the media_wearout_indicator of my ssd
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> [gnubie]: check this site for recommended ssd tweaks= https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[04:29] <[gnubie]> somehow, the output of my updated column is offline
[04:30] <[gnubie]> lotuspsychje: thanks. i’ll take a look on that site..
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> [gnubie]: hdparm can measure stuff too and 'phoronix test suite' can hammertest your device
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> !ssd | [gnubie]
[04:31] <[gnubie]> thanks again lotuspsychje..
[04:34] <[gnubie]> lotuspsychje: brb.. thank you once again..
[04:36] <introom> I am ssh-ing to a remote ubuntu server. I want to copy something into that system's clipboard with xsel in cli.
[04:36] <introom> but xsel complains $DISPLAY not set,
[04:36] <introom> how to solve that?
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> introom: man xsel show something usefull?
[04:37] <rafael> Oie cambadas
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> !br | Guest69781
[04:38] <Guest69781> come que é ?
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> !english | Guest69781
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> introom: not sure if this is your case: http://askubuntu.com/questions/84421/cant-open-display-weirdness-over-ssh
[04:40] <Guest69781> Boa noite
[04:41] <gen6> can anyone suggest reading material for a crash course in ubuntu command line?
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> !manual | gen6
[04:42] <gen6> That's fair, I appreciate it. Thank you
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> !bash | gen6
[04:51] <[[thufir]]> what is the ApacheUser and ApacheGroup for Ubuntu?  as per http://support.sugarcrm.com/02_Documentation/01_Sugar_Editions/05_Sugar_Community_Edition/Sugar_Community_Edition_6.5/Sugar_Community_Edition_Installation_Guide_6.5.0/
[05:04] <micky> usually www-data and www-data
[05:05] <bookman> Hi. My usb keyboard and mouse are not responding after a fresh installation of Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit. Ubuntu is installed on a 1tb hard drive along side a 3tb windows installation on a seperate hard drive. Alt+ctrl+f1 does not respond nor does keyboard respond in Ubuntu Recovery mode. ANy suggestions?
[05:05] <introom> lotuspsychje: thanks. will look that page.
[05:06] <bookman> I know that Ubuntu is responding because it responds to the Power button and displays the shutdown menu. I am stuck at the login screen and am unable to enter my login password due to unresponsiveness of keyboard and mouse
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> bookman: did you set usb support enabled in bios?
[05:07] <bookman> Yes
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> bookman: hmm and grub doesnt react?
[05:07] <bookman> Grub reacts
[05:08] <bookman> that was how I got into the Recovery mode
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> bookman: so you can t enter login
[05:09] <bookman> yes and neither can I get into shell using Alt+ctrl+F1
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> bookman: maybe try the 'fix broken packages' from grub recoverymode?
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> bookman: do you see the mouse icon?
[05:10] <bookman> No I do not see the mouse icon at the login screen
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> bookman: could be graphics issue, try recoverymode fix broken packages
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> bookman: if your keyboard works in grub, should not be a keyboard prob
[05:12] <zgeex> Hey all. anyone think Linux Format Magazine is worth the price?
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> bookman: did you setup with updates during setup+ internet?
[05:12] <bookman> I doubt a keyboard problem because the keyboard works in Windows and Ubuntu 12.04
[05:12] <bookman> Yes setup was with internet. Checked install updates and 3rd party packages
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> bookman: ok good
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> bookman: i would try recoverymode failsafex and fix broken packages
[05:14] <bookman> The problem is when I enter recovery mode the keyboard is unresponsive at the menu
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> thats strange indeed
[05:15] <zgeex> is it a wireless keyboard?
[05:16] <bookman> it is a wired usb keyboard
[05:16] <bookman> a mechanical keyboard from CMstrom and the mouse is also wired from Logitech
[05:16] <Bashing-om> bookman: -> lotuspsychje // Maybe, no usb driver for the keyboard/mouse in the kernel, have you got a ps/2 keyboard lying about to try ?
[05:16] <[[thufir]]> micky: thx
[05:17] <bookman> Unfortunately I do not have a PS/2 keyboard or mouse
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: that might possible, as he set bios to usb mouse/keyboard support
[05:17] <zgeex> hmm
[05:18] <Sunstream> Hello, I need to know the easiest way to make a LiveUSB
[05:18] <zgeex> www.pendrivelinux.com
[05:18] <Sunstream> Or to run Ubuntu on the stick as neded
[05:18] <Sunstream> Oh go there Okay
[05:19] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje:  -> bookman ;: also check that plug N play is set in bios.
[05:19] <zgeex> Sun: yes it's very helpful
[05:19] <Sunstream> Do I need to make the image into a disk first?
 The keyboard works fine with Ubuntu 12.04 up till 14.04
[05:20] <zgeex> Sun: you can download an image for most distros and use that
[05:20] <bookman> The plug and play option is set
[05:21] <bookman> the motherboard is a Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H model
[05:21] <zgeex> book: did you try a different keyboard? Just to see if they somehow broke the driver for it in 14.04?
[05:21] <Sunstream> I got Ubu 14.04 deom the main site and
[05:21] <bookman> I will give it a try
[05:22] <Sunstream> I just want to run Ubuntu from the USB drive only I got a 16GB pendrive I do not want to mess up my Windows install
[05:23] <Bashing-om> bookman: Something is going on within the kernel. Bios has a driver for keyboard, grub has it's own driver, then grub hands off to the kernel, the kernel should have a driver for the keyboard. As it is not working -> a setting in bios or a ps/2 keyboard is all I can come up with.
[05:23] <zgeex> Sun: you should be able to get a live persistent on a 16 gb usb, but if you had a larger one it would be better
[05:23] <Beldar>  Sunstream I would do a full install on a 16 gig usb.
[05:24] <Sunstream> Thats my intention
[05:24] <zgeex> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[05:24] <Beldar> "excellent" Mr. Burns
[05:24] <Sunstream> I did not mean to make a liveusb I just wanted to install it without byorking my NT install
[05:25] <zgeex> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[05:25] <zgeex> for you Sun
[05:25] <awpti> I hate when I Bjork my other OS installs.
[05:25] <zgeex> If you make a live usb you will be running the system off the usb stick and it will not mess with the NT system.
[05:26] <Beldar> Sunstream, You just need a bootable dvd or another usb to do a full install.
[05:26] <Sunstream> incidently zgeex  i was gonna click that on pendive
[05:27] <bookman> Hi guys. Looks like the other keyboard does not work either
[05:27] <zgeex> well crud
[05:27] <zgeex> does that one fail at GRUB?
[05:28] <bookman> No
[05:28] <Beldar> bookman, Did you get to the live desktop when you installed?
[05:28] <bookman> yes the keyboard works in live
[05:28] <bookman> but after installation it does not
[05:28] <bookman> and zgeex the new keyboard works in GRUB like the old one
[05:28] <Beldar> bookman, note we preface with nicks here, the mouse worked live?
[05:28] <Sunstream> My first dive into the world of Linux was with Ubuntu 7.x live CD thougth it was ok put UBU on a PS3 loved it now I want to run UBU from a pen drive and now I can so I can keep my NT install safe.
[05:29] <bookman> Beldar: Yes the mouse worked on live
[05:29] <bookman> Beldar: my first time typing in IRC
[05:29] <Sunstream> Is flash and Java hard to install?
[05:30] <zgeex> Book: I'd hate to say it but I'd download a different image and reinstall and see if that fixes the issue since the other OS's work
[05:30] <Beldar> bookman, Chances are you can get it to work, however you might try another derivative that has more drivers built in and available as a test.
[05:31] <bookman> zgeex: Beldar: Looks like this is a bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1315073 found it after a lot of googlefu
[05:32] <zgeex> wow
[05:32] <palasso> Is there a  Canonical Partners Repo for 14.04 or has it been discontinued?
[05:32] <Beldar> bookman, No real info in that bug and only similar symptoms, not sure I would take it to seriously, very little posts.
[05:32] <palasso> I don't see any updates for Trusty here: http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/partner/
[05:33] <Beldar> palasso, It is in your sources.list
[05:33] <palasso> Beldar: yes but I don't see any software in it
[05:34] <Sunstream> Is it important to change anything to do with step 4 (Set Presistant File Size for storing changes)?
[05:34] <Beldar> palasso, It has stuff in there not sure why you are looking, it has specific stuff.
[05:35] <zgeex> Sun: use the maximum space
[05:35] <palasso> Beldar: e.g. no adobe reader or skype
[05:36] <Sunstream> Its optional it says so if I set it to 0 it will not be good?
[05:36] <Beldar> palasso, the reader had a different name acroread and I don't think it is around, there is another independent repo skype may be there.
[05:36] <Sunstream> It maxes out at 4089MB so I will max it
[05:37] <Beldar> palasso, Open both run a update and run a pat-get on skype
[05:37] <zgeex> Sun: if you want to use the stick as the main then you need to max it out to give room for future software install
[05:37] <Beldar> apt-get*
[05:38] <Sunstream> Okay
[05:39] <whitepowder> So i've got 12.04 installed, and my hdmi audio (which works in 14.04) is broken. does kvm do iovirt these days?
[05:39] <Beldar> Sunstream, That is not a full install, this in lieu of a full install using the usb?
[05:40] <bookman> Beldar: zgeex: I think I will try to chroot into my installation from live USB and do a apt update,upgrade and see if it works..
[05:41] <zgeex> good luck
[05:41] <Bashing-om> bookman: Good thought .
[05:41] <Beldar> bookman, Go for it, I have to wonder if it just may be a bad install, is this the only try? Have you checked the sum on the install media?
[05:42] <Sunstream> I appricate the help
[05:42] <bookman> Beldar: Yes I have checked the md5 and reinstalled a couple of times
[05:43] <Beldar> bookman, Good I missed that if it was stated.
[05:43] <Sunstream> I hope that Java and Flash are easy to install
[05:43] <dga> hello
[05:44] <dga> how can I add a virtual host in apache2 so it can be accessed by http://localhost/~username/ ? i followed the instructions on the ubuntu lamp site but i can't quite get it to work
[05:44] <Sunstream> thats wierd addresses what type of address is ~vooze@unaffiliated/vooze
[05:45] <elecmusic> um new at x chat
[05:45] <Sunstream> I know that 2602:xxxx is IPv6.
[05:45] <elecmusic> so hi all
[05:45] <vooze> Sunstream you can get it in #freenode :)
[05:45] <elecmusic> am I talking to any one...LOL
[05:46] <palasso> Beldar: I just confirmed. There is 0 software on the canonical partners repo for 14.04 so there is not reason to add that repo to my system. Obviously it's been discontinued.
[05:46] <Beldar> palasso, Seems strange it is part of install still how did you confirm this?
[05:46] <Bashing-om> elecmusic: Yeah, we read ya .
[05:47] <elecmusic> ardour3  user here
[05:47] <Sunstream> Oh is this feenodes "vHost"
[05:47] <elecmusic> bashing ..thanks at least I know it works..
[05:47] <aledzadza> my charset is still messed up in irssi even after ive /Set term_charset
[05:47] <palasso> Beldar: everything that is available is here and I don't see any package with "trusty" on its name: http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/partner/
[05:48] <aarcane> When cloning an ubuntu server, what is the common mechanism for rekeying ssh server?
[05:48] <Bashing-om> elecmusic: :) You are on #ubuntu support .. Do you have a support request ?
[05:48] <Ben64> palasso: that is not the correct way to access a repository
[05:49] <blade57> okay i need help. i just install 14.04 lts on my laptop and i can't get my wifi to work.
[05:49] <palasso> Ben64: what do you mean?
[05:49] <Ben64> palasso: exactly what i said. they are not meant to be browsed
[05:49] <Beldar> palasso, I'm not going to argue with you, but your research is flawed, best of luck.
[05:50] <elecmusic> bashing ..not really just trying to figure out xchat I am ready the help
[05:51] <elecmusic> reading I mean thanks for asking... Peace
[05:51] <blade57> can any one help with my wifi  issue
[05:54] <Sunstream> Boy this is taking a long time to install Ubuntu
[05:55] <Sunstream> taking a very long time to create the "presistant file" is this normal?
[05:56] <Capprentice> Hi ! can you tell me how to disable the Vmware Player Virtual Adapters?
[05:56] <Ben64> Sunstream: usb drives aren't very fast
[05:56] <Capprentice> Im using Ubuntu 14.04, Vmware Player 10 !
[05:56] <Ben64> Capprentice: vmware is not supported here, you'll have to consult the vmware documentation
[05:57] <Sunstream> or go to the vmware channels
[05:57] <Sunstream> Google/Bing can help
[05:57] <Capprentice> I know, but I could not find a suitable new and updated DocumentaTION  anywhere what can tell me how to disable the Vmware Virtual Adapters on Ubuntu 1
[05:57] <Capprentice> 4.04
[05:59] <Capprentice> Ben64, Do you have any link to a guide which can help me here ? Im fedup of searching and searching ! I have been searching for 30 minuits ! All im getting is old Garbage. vmware-config.pl  blah blah blah....which is obsolete and now does not exist in the version 10 installation.
[05:59] <Sunstream> Capperntice, you try to get on the VMWare's community site to find out? and if so you try to find a vmware irc channel
[05:59] <Capprentice> Thats a zombie land ! Sunstream ...I posted there before posting here :(((((( !
[06:00] <Ben64> then maybe its time to switch to virtualbox?
[06:00] <Sunstream> You try "Vmware 10" as part of the search term in the boolean to limit it to that version??
[06:00] <Capprentice> I have tried that too :((( !
[06:01] <Capprentice> Ben64, I already have VirtualBox. But if Just I could disable the Adapters, Vmware will work just fine for me. Vmware works beter with Distros like DamnSmallLinux or Slitaz.. I think .... :)))
[06:02] <aledzadza>  e
[06:02] <aledzadza> what is the best irc client?
[06:05] <Lucid-Gnu> Hi, there i have minor network problems since about half a year.., i reinstalled several times, and now i am somewhat pickie with networking ..., please, does anyone knows what "Akamai International B.V" is ? i closed all outport using ufw, except 3 or 4 ports, so i discovered an "minor upload" (http) (probably port:80?) to ip 2.16.216.34 , why would my ubuntu machine contact that ip ? for what reason ? how do i discover which process is 
[06:05] <blade57> im using broadcom 802.11 linux sta wireless and i can't seem to get it to work any ideas
[06:07] <bubble_beam> he
[06:08] <bubble_beam> hello*
[06:08] <Capprentice> Lucid-Gnu,  apt get install nethogs
[06:08] <Lucid-Gnu> .
[06:11] <Lucid-Gnu> ahh.., cool (apt-cache search nethogs)... Capprentice, let me have a look...thanks
[06:12] <Capprentice> :))))))
[06:12] <Lucid-Gnu> :-P
[06:13] <bubble_beam> Lucid-Gnu, hi
[06:13] <Capprentice> Hmm That akamai thing is used by Adobe, Facebook etc !
[06:13] <Lucid-Gnu> Hi.. bubble_beam whats going on ? have we met before ?
[06:14] <Lucid-Gnu> Capprentice: that word akamai is reffering to a lot of things, also some trojans
[06:15] <LarsN> I've got a Lenovo IdeaPad Y510P that I'm trying to get Ubuntu 14.04 Desktop installed on but am running into a pretty significant problem.  Specifically when the machine boots, the display remains purple without showing me anything.
[06:15] <LarsN> I do however hear the Ubuntu drums play which leads me to believe it's sitting at a login prompt somewhere.
[06:15] <Capprentice> LarsN, Do you had any old version of Ubuntu on it?
[06:16] <Capprentice> Like version 10 or 11.04?
[06:16] <LarsN> Capprentice: new laptop, was previously running Windows 7.
[06:16] <LarsN> to install it I had to use the nomodeset kernel flag.  that seems to have zero effect now that it's installed (with or without just results in a purple screen)
[06:17] <Capprentice> Do you have onBoard Nvidia chips ?
[06:17] <Capprentice> It could be a driver ISSUE !
[06:17] <LarsN> yes, it has a Geforce something or another onboard.
[06:18] <Capprentice> Then I suggest you to try the driver installation from a Rescue Console.
[06:18] <Capprentice> I think sudo apt-get install nvidia-current will download and install the latest drivers for you !
[06:18] <LarsN> Capprentice: I'll give the rescue console a shot.
[06:19] <Capprentice> ok.
[06:19] <LarsN> It "should" be trying to use Neuveu (or whatever it is)
[06:20] <Capprentice> Check this LarsN -
[06:20] <Capprentice> http://www.noobslab.com/2012/10/install-latest-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu.html
[06:21] <LarsN> Capprentice: safe to assume x-swat has been kept up to date over the last ~ 2 years?
[06:22] <LarsN> (going by the date on that article :) )
[06:22] <Capprentice> Is your Lappie is manufactured after 2013?
[06:22] <Capprentice> If its not, then I think Old drivers may perform better 1
[06:23] <LarsN> Capprentice: GeForce GT755M
[06:23] <LarsN> I haven't been a gamer in so long I have no idea how "state of the art" that is.
[06:24] <Capprentice> Im not a Nvidia user either, so Googling a bit is the only way. The Experts of this Group seems to be Offline now !
[06:24] <jerrt> so guys, I have ubuntu running inside virtualbox. Two network interfaces running. I want to get apach to serve on eth1, but I get nothing. eth1's IP can be ping'd from outside. ports.conf etc is all Listen 80 or *:80/443
[06:25] <jerrt> any ideas?
[06:26] <Sunstream> yay
[06:26] <LarsN> jerrt: is apache starting?
[06:26] <Sunstream> Install done
[06:26] <[[thufir]]> am I doing this partition wrong?  I want to format my mp3 player:  http://pastebin.com/kKtmCWKG
[06:26] <Sunstream> non liveUSB
[06:26] <jerrt> LarsN: Yup. no warnings or anything
[06:26] <Sunstream> now I am going to bootin
[06:27] <jerrt> apart from the usual hostname resolution thing
[06:27] <Sunstream> wish me lucj
[06:27] <LarsN> jerrt: and netstat shows it's listening on 80/443?
[06:27] <LarsN> either *:  or 0.0.0.0: ?
[06:27] <jerrt> netstat -rn shows the two IPs
[06:28] <jerrt> with a .0 at the end
[06:28] <jerrt> isn't it supposed to show a mask?
[06:28] <dga> i'm trying to create per-user web directories so i added the line Include mods-available/userdir.conf to my /etc/apache2.conf but it's not working. is there anything else I have to do?
[06:29] <LarsN> jerrt: what's netstat -nlt show for port 80 && 443?
[06:30] <Kartagis> what's the Image Viewer binary is called?
[06:30] <Kartagis> ubuntu default that is
[06:30] <jerrt> LarsN: shows :::80 and :::443. proto tcp6.
[06:30] <jerrt> no entry for tcp.
[06:31] <LarsN> jerrt: check the apache2 config for the "Listen" directive.
[06:31] <LarsN> while you do that I'm going to log into another machine and check :)
[06:32] <jerrt> LarsN: just went through all the confs, no mention of Listen except in ports.conf, and it just says Listen 80
[06:33] <jerrt> and a Listen 443 inside a conditional
[06:33] <LarsN> jerrt: adjust that....  take a look at /etc/apache2/ports.conf.  Does the line above the listen have "NameVirtualHost *:80"
[06:34] <LarsN> jerrt: I was on a CentOS machine when I had you check the httpd.conf/apache2.conf, sorry about that :)
[06:34] <dga> hello, i'm trying to create per-user web directories so i added the line Include mods-available/userdir.conf to my apache2.conf file and restarted apache but it doesn't seem to work. is there something else i have to do?
[06:34] <jerrt> LarsN: nope. will try adding it. no worries, checked ports anyway :)
[06:34] <randabis> been years since I hung out in here...
[06:34] <LarsN> jerrt: if you want it only bound to the eth1 host.... replace the * with eth1's ip address.
[06:35] <LarsN> jerrt: that "SHOULD" get it listening in the right places, although I'm a bit rusty on my apache.
[06:37] <jerrt> LarsN: tried, apache restarted saying "namevirtualhost has no effect, deprecated" etc, and no difference :/
[06:37] <LarsN> jerrt: figures.  soon they'll put me in a museum exhibit.
[06:38] <Kartagis> what's the Ubuntu default Image Viewer binary is called?
[06:39] <LarsN> jerrt: looks like the new method would be....  Listen 10.0.0.1:80
[06:39] <LarsN> jerrt: assuming 10.0.0.1 was one of the interfaces..
[06:39] <jerrt> LarsN: haha, happens. last time I did anything was on centOS too.
[06:40] <jerrt> I tried Listen ip:80 earlier, no dice
[06:40] <jerrt> can't figure out what it's up to
[06:40] <LarsN> jerrt: beyond that, you've got me.  I remember having this problem in the past, but it was SeLinux's fault
[06:40] <Capprentice> Kartagis, eog ?
[06:40] <LarsN> which shouldn't be a problem on Ubuntu.
[06:40] <Capprentice> or may be Shotwell !
[06:40] <LarsN> jerrt: you don't also have nginx, or lighttpd running do you?
[06:41] <jerrt> nope
[06:41] <jerrt> gah, looks like I'll have to go back to constantly changing the network settings each time I switch between networks
[06:41] <LarsN> fun helpful tool finally ported to Ubuntu....  apt-get install sockstat.
[06:41] <Capprentice> I have soo many image viewers now...I cant remember. Few good are: Nomacs, XnView, Viewnor Kartagis
[06:41] <Kartagis> Capprentice: that was it, thank you :)
[06:42] <jerrt> LarsN: home is 192.168.x.x, work is 10.0.x.x. I used to just use a bridged adaptor on vbox and assign a static ip each time.
[06:42] <LarsN> jerrt: sudo sockstat -p 80
[06:42] <LarsN> it's handy because it displays the package etc, not just the port bindings..
[06:42] <jerrt> huh, no bindings
[06:43] <bookman> Beldar: It worked... The chroot and upgrade worked
[06:43] <Beldar> bookman, Good job. ;)
[06:43] <LarsN> jerrt: example....  root     apache2              1952     tcp4   *:80                      *:*                       LISTEN
[06:43] <jerrt> LarsN: yeah, there's nothing listed :D
[06:44] <jerrt> and apache is running
[06:44] <jerrt> well, the service is up
[06:44] <LarsN> that's weird...
[06:44] <bookman> Beldar:  I think it might be the old kernel version but I am not sure how to document this bug
[06:45] <Beldar> me neither
[06:45] <LarsN> jerrt: ufw isn't preventing it from binding to port 80 is it?
[06:45] <LarsN> jerrt: ^ seems like something I should have asked earlier on :)
[06:46] <jerrt> what's ufw?
[06:46] <Capprentice> :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
[06:46] <LarsN> "Uncomplicated FireWall"
[06:46] <jerrt> oh. sounds like something that might be messing things up. lemme check
[06:46] <LarsN> for testing only, do a: sudo service ufw stop
[06:46] <jerrt> also, it worked fine before I added eth1, btw...
[06:46] <LarsN> then, if it works......  adjust the rules.
[06:47] <aledzadza> What bnc server should i use?
[06:47] <jerrt> LarsN: nope, stopped it, retried sockstat, nothing bound
[06:47] <Capprentice> Which programming language has less learning overhead? Suppose if some one wants to develop a small Bike Racing game for Ubuntu, what technologies he/she needs to be familiar with ?
[06:48] <LarsN> jerrt: I'll trade problems with you :)
[06:48] <LarsN> fixing apache sounds easier than my stupid graphics card + uefi + secure boot woes :)
[06:49] <jerrt> hahaha, I'm glad I have none of that on my plate
[06:50] <jerrt> though this no bindings thing looks promising. to google, maybe
[06:50] <LarsN> there's at least one post on stack overflow with similar symptoms
[06:50] <LarsN> ipv6 works, ipv4 doesnt
[06:50] <LarsN> no solution listed though :/
[06:52] <LarsN> this is so dumb.  Work got me a "gaming" laptop with SLI GeForce graphics cards in it.
[06:52] <abhie2e> hi. i am trying to setup our own ubuntu repo by following first answer to this question http://askubuntu.com/questions/170348/how-to-make-my-own-local-repository . now how do i transfer the deb packages from "all" the official ubuntu repo to my repos? any way to automate it? help please
[06:53] <m1dnight> LarsN: probably a hint ;-)
[06:53] <LarsN> m1dnight: heh.  that I should do less work, and play more games?
[06:53] <m1dnight> exactly
[06:53] <LarsN> or that battery life is for suckers.
[06:54] <m1dnight> hahaha, that last one to
[06:54] <LarsN> I ordered a Thinkpad X240.
[06:54] <m1dnight> but if you have an IX intel, you can rely on the hd graphics to spare your battery
[06:54] <LarsN> this thing will likely end up in a drawer once the X240 shows up.
[06:54] <abhie2e> am i in #ubuntu-offtopic by mistake?
[06:55] <LarsN> abhie2e: no, it's my fault.  Fighting with this stupid laptop, and was complaining about it while I waited for fsck to do the things.
[06:55] <abhie2e> ok.
[06:58] <Sunstream> ok it asked me for try ubuntu or install ubuntu, with the usb stick install which do i choose i do not want to screw up my nt install
[06:58] <LarsN> Sunstream: "try ubuntu" is a live image
[06:59] <LarsN> Sunstream: "install ubuntu" does exactly what it says.
[06:59] <Beldar> Sunstream, Is this the usb your going to use as you wander the world?
[07:00] <Sunstream> or if my NT install is first os it safe to install ubu?
[07:03] <Beldar> Sunstream, Where are you planning to install with this boot?
[07:03] <Sunstream> no this usb is just for me to run linux without install it on my system afraid that i will byork my NT install
[07:04] <Beldar> Sunstream, Then you choose try ubuntu.
[07:04] <Beldar> If you chose install it would just do it without you going through a set of guis
[07:04] <Beldar> sorry would not
[07:04] <Sunstream> so if i select install ubuntu alongside it will byork my NT?
[07:04] <Beldar> no
[07:04] <Beldar> Sunstream, no but you have no reason to hit install, but it would not automatically do that.
[07:04] <Sunstream> ok i want to really run this as a dual boot
[07:04] <Beldar> Sunstream, You would have to install to the HD for it to be technically a dual boot.
[07:04] <Sunstream> if i select install it will not mess up my windows install
[07:07] <Beldar> Sunstream, Why would you hit install, you want to use the usb as a operating system?
[07:07] <Beldar> Sunstream, YOU would need another external HD or usb for an install, or the internal HD.
[07:07] <Sunstream> no actually i dont what i truly want to do is run Ubu as a 2nd os alongside windows
[07:07] <Beldar> Sunstream, Can you clarify that last sentence?
[07:08] <Sunstream> ok what i want to do is install and use Ubuntu as my 2nd os meaning dual boot off harddrive
[07:09] <Sunstream> but i am uncomfortable that if i attempted it i will lose windows since windows is already inatalled
[07:09] <LarsN> Sunstream: then install along side "should" be fine, and "shouldn't" break windows.  Provided there's enough free space.
[07:09] <Beldar> Sunstream, You would have to install it to the HD for that scenario, you just do not understand it seems what dual boot means. You sais earlier you wanted a full install on that usb, but yet loaded the iso to it.
[07:10] <Sunstream> i did this as a test
[07:10] <LarsN> Sunstream: if it has to resize partitions, all bets are off.  Unless you've got an additional, fresh/clean/naked drive as Beldar is suggesting.
[07:10] <Sunstream> that was intentional
[07:10] <Beldar> Sunstream, a test of what?
[07:10] <Sunstream> if i like the look and feel
[07:10] <Sunstream> and i do
[07:10] <Beldar> Sunstream, Ah, good then use the try ubuntu option.
[07:11] <Sunstream> which i have been for a while
[07:11] <Beldar> Sunstream, Why don't you just install ubuntu to a virtual machine, you could have windows and ubuntu running at the same time
[07:14] <Sunstream> now i would like to use it as an alternative Operating system without losing windows. so what i am trying to find out is if i tried to install this now on the hdd will it kill my xp install
[07:15] <Beldar> Sunstream, You have to install it correctly. Do you have a image/clone of XP?
[07:15] <LarsN> Sunstream: do you have a second, unused drive in the XP machine?  or could you easily add one?
[07:16] <Sunstream> no on the clone/image
[07:16] <Beldar> honestly running XP is a bad idea it is end of life
[07:16] <Sunstream> i know
[07:17] <Beldar> and hardly safe has not been for a long time
[07:17] <Sunstream> i shoukd say screw it and just change over
[07:17] <Sunstream> if the following is true i will chnage over
[07:18] <Beldar> Sunstream, I would get a supported windows release, I would never advise anyone to just switch over.
[07:18] <djapo> why is there no ubuntu for windows surface rt 2?
[07:18]  * LarsN gives up on this laptop for the night.
[07:18] <Sunstream> does it fully support flash and java
[07:18] <Sunstream> i cant
[07:18] <Beldar> djapo, Ask Microsoft
[07:18] <LarsN> djapo: microsoft secure boot on ARM based systems is locked down.
[07:19] <LarsN> djapo: they opened the door for x86/x86_64, but left it closed on ARM platforms.
[07:19] <Sunstream> this laptop only has 512 megs ram and afaik cannot go up
[07:19] <Transfusion> flash has been deprecated, but it is still available for download (version 11.2), java, definitely, with sun java and openjdk
[07:19] <Beldar> Sunstream> does it fully support flash and java ubuntu yes
[07:19] <Sunstream> okay
[07:19] <SierraAR> Didnt flash drop support for linux?
[07:19] <Transfusion> ^
[07:19] <djapo> so, i heard but is there a way to flash the boot loader from windows
[07:19] <Sunstream> does i  plqy dvd video out of bo  so to speak
[07:20] <Beldar> djapo, used to be wubi, not supported anymore.
[07:20] <Transfusion> if you download the restricted extras and a media player like VLC it will
[07:20] <Beldar> use nicks folks
[07:20] <Sunstream> well more along the lines does it support youtube
[07:20] <Transfusion> of course it does :) it's not a fisher price toy
[07:21] <Beldar> Sunstream, yes you can watch youtube
[07:21] <Sunstream> ok so i still have to download VLC which is fine
[07:21] <Transfusion> unless you have any windows-specific professional software you should be fine
[07:21] <Sunstream> ok does it support amazon video?
[07:21] <djapo> so if someone wrote a boot flasher that ran on rt, it would work?
[07:21] <Beldar> Sunstream, You don't have to have vlc to watch youtube.
[07:21] <Sunstream> no vlc for dvds
[07:22] <Beldar> Sunstream, lots of media players work bedsides vlc it is a codec issue is all, ubuntu has them.
[07:22] <Sunstream> ok
[07:23] <Beldar> Sunstream, What you should do is do a full install to a virtual machine and work with the channel and research till you understand.
[07:23] <Sunstream> then lets see with Wine i shoukd be fine.
[07:23] <Sunstream> i used ubuntu before
[07:24] <Sunstream> bu  had issues wirh flash and java
[07:24] <Beldar> Sunstream, Than you are asking questions you should know.
[07:24] <Sunstream> then i will do the install
[07:24] <abhie2e> any guess on whats tho total size of the ubuntu 14.04 repos? i need to mirror it locally?
[07:24] <Beldar> Sunstream, If you value XP I would clone it first.
[07:24] <abhie2e> i need to know the size of 10.04 , 12.04 and 14.04
[07:25] <Sunstream> i dont
[07:25] <abhie2e> help please
[07:25] <Sunstream> it is because i cannot put any more ram in this system
[07:25] <Sunstream> okay
[07:25] <Transfusion> abhie2e: apt-mirror will show you something like " 68.6 GiB will be downloaded into archive."
[07:26] <Sunstream> i will go back into windows
[07:26] <randabis> hmm i was pinged or somethin' lol
[07:26] <Beldar> not sure how ram is relevant with ubuntu, Sunstream
[07:26] <gp5st1> hello. I installed a fresh copy of windows 8 and then installed ubuntu.  When I try to boot windows 8, I get a "error: no image found" message, and then get dumped back into grub
[07:26] <Sunstream> move the important files to my thumb drive
[07:26] <abhie2e> Transfusion, i need to know this before starting apt-mirror. i need to tell them how much vps size i need so that they can allocate it to me. i want it to know for centor and debian too. any generic way to know size of repos?
[07:26] <Sunstream> and do the install
[07:26] <randabis> sounds like you need to fix your bootloader
[07:27] <Beldar> !bootinfo | gp5st1
[07:27] <gp5st1> randabis: yeah, I would, but have no idea how
[07:27] <gp5st1> thanks Beldar
[07:27] <Sunstream> as long as 512 megs runs smoothly (32 bit) i am fine
[07:27] <Sunstream> it seems to run ok
[07:27] <randabis> I tend to do the linux stuff LAST...if I'm multibooting...let grub handle it
[07:28] <Beldar> Sunstream, 512 MB is not enough to run ubuntu, lubuntu would be more appropriate
[07:28] <gp5st1> randabis: if you read my text, I did install linux second
[07:28] <tom___v> I seem to have hosed my .xauthority in Ubuntu 14.04 desktop, how do I login from the command line to delete it?
[07:28] <Sunstream> lubuntu?
[07:28] <randabis> did you manually partition or auto
[07:29] <Beldar> randabis, Do you know anything about uefi setups?
[07:29] <randabis> a little...
[07:29] <randabis> i have some asrock stuff with uefi
[07:29] <kaka> So few people
[07:29] <Beldar> randabis, than be careful here so far all I see is guessing, don't give advice that bricks there computer.
[07:29] <randabis> Yes, I agree
[07:30] <randabis> I'm trying to stay low key
[07:30] <Beldar> cool
[07:30] <presonic> tom___v: ctrl alt f1 on the box
[07:30] <randabis> I realize this is official support channel :)
[07:31] <tom___v> presonic: thanks!  I'll try that.
[07:32] <Sunstream> i just want to run Ububntu smoothly and i thought 512 meg of ram woukd do ir
[07:33] <Transfusion> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[07:33] <randabis> ^
[07:33] <Beldar> Sunstream, Not smoothly, probably wont run at all.
[07:33] <Transfusion> minimum is not necessarily the best experience :P
[07:34] <gp5st1> Beldar: http://dpaste.com/2ZJ3N5Y.txt is the output of that script
[07:36] <gp5st1> Beldar: randabis: afaik the only change i made during windows installation was to give it a smaller partition.  I then used the freespace to install ubuntu in.
[07:36] <dj_> Hi guys, I have a question about the partitioning for ubuntu
[07:36] <Beldar> gp5st1, Windows is still there, I would post that in this thread for the best help. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[07:37] <gp5st1> Beldar: thanks
[07:37] <Sunstream_> darn you Kindle Fire quit reloading pages with i switch tabs sheesh
[07:37] <dj_> can anybody help me
[07:37] <Sunstream_> ahem
[07:37] <Beldar> gp5st1, Very few people here know uefi completely, just be aware.
[07:38] <presonic> dj_ ask ur question
[07:38] <Sunstream_> accordin to the system requirements i have plenty of room
[07:38] <Beldar> dj_, If you describe the issue maybe.
[07:38] <Sunstream_> fast enouch cpu and enough ram
[07:38]  * Transfusion has (is) successfully dualbooting xubuntu/win 8 in GPT/EFI mode.
[07:38] <jvaemape_123> Hi all
[07:38] <jvaemape_123> Hi all
[07:39] <dj_> thanks guys, So, when you install softwares in ubuntu, does it install in the \ partition or the \home partition?
[07:39] <jvaemape> jvaemape_123,  hello
[07:39] <jvaemape_123> Hi all
[07:39] <Beldar> dj_, A little of both depends on what ou install and how you install it.
[07:39] <Beldar> you*
[07:39] <Transfusion> dj_: somewhere under /usr/ , or /usr/local/
[07:39] <jvaemape_123> Hi all
[07:39] <Transfusion> if from apt
[07:39] <dj_> I am new to ubuntu, I just installed the system today and assign 20gb for the \ partition and 70gb for the \home partition
[07:40] <Sunstream_> okay
[07:40] <jvaemape_123> Hi all
[07:40] <dj_> I dont know if this is reasonable
[07:40] <jvaemape_123> Hi all
[07:40] <presonic> dj_: that sounds fine.
[07:40] <Sunstream_> i have good enough specs
[07:40] <dj_> So when does it install in the \
[07:40] <jvaemape_123> Hi all
[07:40] <dj_> and when in the \home?
[07:40] <jvaemape_123> Hi all
[07:41] <djapo> is there a way to trick uefi locked boot loaders? say a signed kernel that loads an unsigned kernel?
[07:41] <Sunstream_> i just want a os that runs smootly, and is protected
[07:41] <presonic> dj_: after you've finished install the distribution\
[07:41] <presonic> installing*
[07:41] <presonic> you'll have 20 gig allocated to / and 70 to /home
[07:42] <jvaemape_123> Hi all
[07:42] <jvaemape_123> Hi all
[07:43] <dj_> Yes presonic, for example, I am planning to install MATLAB, which is about 6gb. I don't know where it will go to
[07:43] <faudzan> hi ahmedaly
[07:43] <jvaemape_123> Hi all
[07:44] <jvaemape_123> Hi all
[07:44] <presonic> dj_: not familiar with that.  if you're using apt-get it wont go to /home
[07:44] <Transfusion> dj_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB
[07:44] <Transfusion> the default is /usr/local/
[07:44] <Transfusion> yeah, home is like your "My Documents" folder
[07:45] <Transfusion> configuration and dotfiles will be placed in dotfolders
[07:45] <SierraAR> I always figured home was like my user directory and made my own documents/pictures/etc folders xD
[07:46] <dj_> So where is /usr then? I didnt set up a partition specifically for /usr
[07:46] <Transfusion> uhh >_> sorry, yeah, i think that's more right. Downloads, Pictures, Music goes in home too.
[07:46] <jvaemape_123> Hi all
[07:46] <Beldar> dj_, I think your trying to apply windows setups to linux they are not the same.
[07:46] <Sunstream_> I played with Ubu before on a ps3 and i liked it, ran it as a virtual machine loved it but was still fond of windows 7 so i will go ahead and install it
[07:47] <presonic> dj_: you can reconfigure, but 20 gig for / should be enough for the core install + MATLAB
[07:47] <presonic> you're ok
[07:47] <jvaemape_123> Hi all
[07:47] <dj_> Thanks Presonic
[07:47] <jvaemape_123> Hi all
[07:47] <DJones> jvaemape_123: Because this channel is a support channel, you generally don't get many people responding to "Hi all" comments
[07:47] <n00buntu> im having a similar issue to dj
[07:47] <Transfusion> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/84760/should-usr-and-home-be-on-different-partitions
[07:47] <Beldar> jvaemape_123, This is support not chat hi's are not needed more than once or ever really.
[07:47] <jvaemape_123> Hi all
[07:47] <dj_> Beldar, Can you explain more on that? What are the differences? Thanks
[07:47] <Transfusion> it's more user preference and practical issues I think.
[07:48] <jvaemape_123> Hi all
[07:48] <n00buntu> tried to setup a / for os and /home for 2nd partition
[07:48]  * Transfusion puts everything under / , so can't comment.
[07:48] <DJones> jvaemape_123: Please don't keep repeating that
[07:48] <presonic> i do the same Transfusion
[07:48] <jvaemape_123> Hi all
[07:49] <jvaemape_123> Hi all
[07:49] <Beldar> dj_, This channel is not for explaining the differences, so far your questions are not really answerable in any accurate way to be honest
[07:49] <Beldar> way to broad
[07:49] <jvaemape_123> Hi all
[07:50] <Sunstream_> thank you all. i made ny decision. Death to XP Hello Ubuntu 14.04
[07:50] <dj_> Beldar, I understand, Thanks though. I guess I need to do more reading on this
[07:50] <n00buntu> can i ask, if i use fstab to create a mount for /home to point 2nd partition, why when i save to /home "/" still grows
[07:50] <Beldar> dj_, Yeah, we want to help, but you hae to be careful here people will just answer without realizing what I just stated is all.
[07:52] <Beldar> n00buntu, where ever you save grows.
[07:52] <n00buntu> well i was thinking once i mounted to 2nd partion that the sdb1 would grow, not sda1
[07:53] <n00buntu> sorry a bit new to linux
[07:53] <Beldar> n00buntu, That is a very jungled question does not really make sense, what is your end goal?
[07:53] <n00buntu> id like to as dj mentioned have "/" designated just for the os
[07:53] <n00buntu> so i have an ssd that id like to use strictly for the os
[07:54] <Beldar> n00buntu, / here means the root partition
[07:54] <n00buntu> and the hdd (2ndary) for games, docs, etc
[07:55] <yagami> hola
[07:55] <Beldar> n00buntu, Or if you have just one partition fr ubuntu / is the OS partition
[07:55] <yagami> alguien habla español?
[07:55] <DJones> !es | yagami
[07:55] <n00buntu> apologies maybe my phrasing is incorrect
[07:56] <yagami> je es q soy de cierta forma nuevo antes usaba windows y es algo extraño esto jeje
[07:56] <Beldar> n00buntu, No biggie, we just want to make sure we are on the same page. HOw big is the ssd?
[07:56] <n00buntu> i just want games, docs, etc to install on my secondary drive (hdd)
[07:56] <n00buntu> and my os to be set exclusively for the (ssd)
[07:57] <Sunstream_> So what do I need to do to install Ubu to my HDD? make  liveUSB to install?
[07:58] <yagami> emmm hay gente de todo el mundo aqui cierto??
[07:58] <n00buntu> googling has left me with creating a seperate /home partition on my (hdd)
[07:58] <DJones> yagami: Please join #ubuntu-es for Spanish language support, this channel is English language only
[07:58] <Beldar> yagami, This is an english channel
[07:58] <abhie2e> how can i autohide unity left side panel in 14.04?
[07:59] <priuon> hey there. I kind of got mad with thunderbird and am looking for something simple to replace it. I basically want a unific user interface for multiple inboxes. Ideally supporting IMAP but I'd be fine with SMTP/POP for a first step. If the app has IMAP it would be important that it can display all inbox seperately.
[07:59] <abhie2e> priuon, geary
[07:59] <yagami> ok ok thank u
[07:59] <presonic> n00buntu: games and docs installed using apt-get wont land in /home, only their config and user specific info will.  might be better off using the other parititon for /usr, but i dk
[07:59] <presonic> idk*
[07:59] <djapo> with a jailbroken tablet could the us be replaced?
[07:59] <djapo> s/\<us\>/os/
[08:00] <Transfusion> > jailbroken
[08:00] <Transfusion> iPad?
[08:00] <Beldar> presonic, There is a specific /user file are you aware or know what it is?
[08:00] <faschel> i just installed gnome ubuntu, and i can't seem to install extensions from extensions.gnome.org in firefox.  the  integration plugin is active, but it's still not recognizing the gnome environment
[08:00] <djapo> Transfusion: windows rt tablet
[08:00] <priuon> abhie2e, can't find geary. Is it maybe not available for xubuntu?
[08:01] <Beldar> faschel, The extensions are for the gnome shell, not unity
[08:01] <n00buntu> tx presonic
[08:01] <faschel> Beldar, that's why i began with "I just installed gnome ubuntu"
[08:01] <priuon> abhie2e, also on 12.04.04
[08:02] <Transfusion> not sure, but theoretically it is possible if you have a bootloader that loads arm linux kernel. but secureboot screws things up pretty badly.
[08:02] <Beldar> faschel, Ah, missed that specificity, it happens you know.
[08:02] <Sunstream_> i want to leave windows behind with a small exception of mIRC which i likely can run with WINE and Paltalk
[08:02] <cezdev> hey guys
[08:02] <cezdev> got a small question
[08:02] <cezdev> about nvidia drivers under 14.04 64 ubuntu
[08:02] <abhie2e> priuon, have you done apt-get install geary?
[08:03] <Beldar> !nvidia | cezdev
[08:03] <cezdev> thanks ubutto, beldar
[08:03] <Sunstream_> Do I need to do anything new to install ubu on my laptop?
[08:03] <Sunstream_> like redoing ghe pen drive?
[08:04] <djapo> what is up with all this awesome hardware with secureboot coming out lately .. has anyone found a weakeness .. perhaps changing the key they use to check if a kernel is signed correctly :O
[08:04] <faschel> Beldar, do you know if there is a channel specifically for gnome-ubuntu off hand?
[08:04] <Beldar> faschel, I use opera to get that link to recognize the shell, chrome should work as well.
[08:04] <faschel> Beldar, hrm...i've never gotten it to work in chrome.  i'll give opera a shot though
[08:05] <Beldar> faschel, I see a #ubuntu-gnome channel 40 users is all.
[08:07] <Sunstream_> Sigh.
[08:08] <Sunstream_> Guys can i do a full install from the current pendrive setup or do i have to redo it as a liveusb?
[08:09] <cezdev> Which Linux nvidia driver for Ubuntu 14.04 is safe to use? without freezing/hiccups etc.
[08:09] <n00buntu> can i change the mount point for /usr && /usr/local within /etc/fstab if i currently have that mount point already set to /home?
[08:09] <priuon> abhie2e, apt-cache search geary -> no result
[08:09] <Beldar> cezdev, Open software sources and look in the additional drivers tab
[08:09] <cezdev> alll the propiraty drivers are bad for my GTX 560
[08:09] <abhie2e> priuon, which os and version?
[08:09] <cezdev> I did that
[08:10] <priuon> xubuntu 12.04.04
[08:10] <cezdev> Beldar, all drivers there end up freezing my systems
[08:10] <cezdev> each one of em
[08:10] <Beldar> got it
[08:10] <cezdev> Xorg is safe to use
[08:10] <cezdev> I just don' t know what the problem is
[08:10] <cezdev> on my laptop the additional drivers work just fine
[08:11] <cezdev> same OS and architeuture
[08:11] <priuon> abhie2e, xubuntu 12.04.04
[08:11] <NEWUSER> Guys, is there any way to build g++ manually
[08:11] <cezdev> 14.04 64
[08:11] <cezdev> and Nvidia
[08:11] <Sunstream_> i guess i will have to just wait off till i can get more info
[08:11] <abhie2e> priuon, maybe build from source https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Geary
[08:12] <arun_> guys, is there any way to run ctrl+R through command ?
[08:12] <priuon> abhie2e, i have multivers excluded. Might this be the problem?
[08:12] <abhie2e> priuon, yes. try including it.
[08:12] <abhie2e> priuon, enbale it. apt-get update and then geary
[08:13] <Sunstream_> i dont even know if my tezt is typing through
[08:14] <somsip> arun_: in what context?
[08:14] <priuon> abhie2e, how do i check if a pack is installed (for the dependencies)
[08:14] <abhie2e> "pack"?
[08:14] <priuon> abhie2e, package
[08:15] <arun_> somsip: using terminal/bash script python will also be ok
[08:15] <abhie2e> priuon, just install the main software using apt-get it will install the dependencies automatically.
[08:15] <NEWUSER> what dependencies does g++ require and how to install it manually?
[08:15] <Transfusion> apt-cache showpkg package-name ...?
[08:15] <cezdev> Beldar, you got anything for me I can look into ?
[08:15] <Transfusion> will show the dependencies too
[08:16] <somsip> arun_: what are you trying to achieve?
[08:16] <priuon> abhie2e, well i still need to know. there was dpkg, but i don't really now how to use it
[08:16] <Beldar> cezdev, Not really there are ppa's xswat is one there is another considered unstable. Not sure really what you need, I have never had to mess with Nvidia
[08:16] <arun_> somsip: for a desktop icon to refresh (f5 or Ctrl+R)
[08:16] <abhie2e> priuon, try apt-cache policy packagename
[08:17] <faschel> Beldar, in case you're interested i just found this article: http://blog.chromium.org/2013/09/saying-goodbye-to-our-old-friend-npapi.html
[08:17] <cezdev> Okay, thank you Beldar for helping
[08:17] <cezdev> I google some more around
[08:17] <priuon> abhie2e, that seems to do it. Thanks
[08:17] <cezdev> I want to play Witcher 2 on Linux
[08:17] <faschel> I imagine it has something to do with it
[08:18] <Beldar> faschel, I had heard that, I use FF primarily is all.
[08:18] <cezdev> but I need a stable driver for that
[08:18] <somsip> arun_: what desktop icon? In unity?
[08:18] <NEWUSER> cezdev: what dependencies do g++ require to be built manually?
[08:18] <priuon> abhie2e, using multiverse didn't seem to solve it for apt-cache search
[08:18] <cezdev> @NEWUSER let me look into that for you
[08:18] <arun_> Somasis: yup
[08:18] <abhie2e> priuon, build from source?
[08:18] <Beldar> cezdev, here is the unstable ppa. https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[08:19] <presonic> newuser: try and compile it and install development packages as it asks for
[08:19] <Transfusion> NEWUSER: 4:4.8.1-2ubuntu3 - cpp (2 4:4.8.1-2ubuntu3) gcc (2 4:4.8.1-2ubuntu3) g++-4.8 (2 4.8.1-4~) gcc-4.8 (2 4.8.1-4~) g++-multilib (0 (null)) g++:i386 (0 (null))
[08:19] <cezdev> @Beldar Thank you very much!
[08:19] <abhie2e> priuon, wait
[08:19] <priuon> abhie2e, never done it before but been looking to do it for some time now
[08:19] <Transfusion> apt-cache showpkg g++
[08:19] <somsip> arun_: this may help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/LauncherAPI
[08:19] <abhie2e> priuon, do this sudo apt-add-repository ppa:yorba/ppa and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install geary
[08:21] <NEWUSER> cezdev: thank you, Cezdev. But since I do not have access to internet from an Ubuntu system. Is there any other way to download  these packages manually from a windows platform and then build it in my ubuntu system. And please make a note (I forgot to say), I use Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[08:21] <faschel> Beldar, it works in opera.  thanks for the suggestion
[08:21] <cezdev> @newuser noted!
[08:21] <Beldar> faschel, good it is the strangest thing, in utopic FF works.
[08:21] <arun_> somsip: sorry its for nautilus
[08:21] <arun_> somsip: why would unity get refreshes xD
[08:22] <ne2k> I have just upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 (fresh install). I have been use blueproximity to lock and unlock my desktop with gnome-screensaver-command -l and -d, but the -d does not work on 14.04 due to the new lockscreen. (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/1307163) what is the new way to programmatically unlock the desktop?
[08:22] <somsip> arun_: then you need to find the nautilus api (because you answered Yup when I asked if it was in unity...please be clear)
[08:22] <Sunstream> okay can anyone see my  text
[08:22] <faschel> Beldar, I had just tried out linux mint with gnome-shell installed and it worked there, but due to some other problems I decided to try ubuntu again
[08:22] <somsip> !test | Sunstream
[08:23] <priuon> abhie2e, is yorba a trusted source? i am depended of the system and don't want to jeopardise is
[08:23] <priuon> *it
[08:23] <Beldar> faschel, Ah, more overall support I think with ubuntu
[08:23] <abhie2e> priuon, they are the creator of the geary.
[08:24] <abhie2e> priuon, http://yorba.org/
[08:24] <priuon> :) ... abhie2e well i could not find the gee and gio dependencies
[08:24] <abhie2e> priuon, http://yorba.org/geary/help/
[08:24] <faschel> Beldar, yea, and they are diverging further from the ubuntu base, so there's not as much compatibility between them anymore.  gnome 3 was essentially broken
[08:24] <NGC982> Guys, i'm new into databases and such, and i'm trying to setup a Wordpress. I'm at the step of adding a user to mysql, and i keep getting this Access denied line.
[08:24] <abhie2e> priuon, install it manually?
[08:24] <cedric__> Hello, did you go on facebook today ?
[08:24] <NGC982> I have no idea how to google it, since the error message seems to spam the entire mysql application
[08:25] <abhie2e> NGC982, #wordpress
[08:25] <Beldar> faschel, The extensions are put together by 3rd parties as well and are not really keeping up with the ubuntu releases less work per up the release I go, but that is the ones I use though.
[08:25] <priuon> how can i revert anything done, if i do this with ppa?
[08:25] <abhie2e> priuon, revert what? just purge the application.
[08:26] <priuon> abhie2e, remove the repo for instance
[08:26] <cezdev> So Beldar, I add this PPA
[08:26] <cezdev> and then what?
[08:26] <abhie2e> priuon, just uncomment /delete the repo in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:26] <cezdev> apt-get install ????
[08:26] <abhie2e> cezdev, after adding new repo always do apt-get update first before installation
[08:26] <NGC982> abhie2e: Oh, that's a thing? Thanks!
[08:27] <cezdev> @abhi2e ofcourse yo!
[08:27] <abhie2e> NGC982, :-)
[08:27] <Sunstream_> okay lets try this again, do i have to change my thunb drive to a liveusb to install ubuntu or can i use the way i installed it to do the install tk the hard drive?
[08:27] <priuon> abhie2e, k
[08:27] <arun_> somsip: so, can't I get my work done with out the Api thing?
[08:27] <faschel> Beldar, i meant cinnamon (they're modification of gnome 3) is diverging so far from the vanilla gnome 3 that trying to run gnome-shell conflicts too much with something and nothing really works.  the app launcher couldn't find any apps.  opening tweak caused some sort of graphics failure.  alt tab broke everything. etc
[08:28] <somsip> arun_: don't know. You've said nothing about what your work is, and you don't seem to understand how to interface with running programs. Maybe you need to research a little more.
[08:28] <Sunstream_> nevermind i will just make a live usb maker
[08:28] <thecha> Sunstream_→ i dont understand
[08:28] <Beldar> faschel, Ah, cinnamon was removed in trusty, but mate is there, but we are a bit off topic with this is all. ;)
[08:29] <faschel> Beldar, fair enough
[08:29] <Sunstream_> i used uui to make th ubuntu usb drive to test it niw i want to install it
[08:29] <cezdev> So I updated the sources.list
[08:30] <cezdev> what do I install from that PPA ?
[08:30] <arun_> somsip: sorry, but misunderstanding from me, the thing I am wanting to do is I have created a refresh.desktop file  and I am wanting to do the refresh job which is done by pressing ctrl+R or F5 , with that .desktop file when clicked, that desktop file should refresh the desktop contents as used to
[08:30] <Sunstream_> do i have to change i  to a liveusb
[08:30] <cezdev> nvidia driver?
[08:30] <Sunstream_> or do i jus  run an install
[08:32] <faschel> is there a way to scale monitors differently? i have a 24" 1080p and a 27 1440p
[08:33] <Sunstream_> no one can answer?
[08:33] <peho> hi
[08:34] <mark06> how can I know the repository component of a given package in command line?
[08:34] <peho> can somebody help me with lirc build?
[08:34] <Sunstream_> nevermind
[08:34] <priuon> abhie2e, source.list doesn't show the repo after adding it
[08:34] <priuon> sources.list
[08:35] <Sunstream_> i will just use lili and make a live usb
[08:35] <priuon> abhie2e, where else could the url be saved?
[08:35] <peho> I want to build lirc to use irman driver
[08:35] <bcvery> !usb | Sunstream_
[08:36] <NGC982> Is there any good mysql irc channels?
[08:37] <Kartagis> NGC982: #mysql
[08:41] <djapo> is there a way to remove uefi keys from within the operating system?
[08:41] <djapo> and or back them up?
[08:44] <faschel> NGC3982, what is your question?
[08:45] <Beldar> djapo, http://askubuntu.com/questions/206141/can-ubuntu-run-on-a-microsoft-surface-with-windows-rt
[08:47] <Beldar> djapo, apparently possible on the pro. http://www.geek.com/microsoft/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-the-surface-pro-1539262/
[08:47] <arun_> somsip: the main thing is that I want to run Ctrl+ R using bash script
[08:49] <NGC3982> faschel: I got help via the mysql channel. Thank you :-)
[08:50] <djapo> Beldar: i don't have the pro, so i was thinking of taking KEK db getting the key used to add new trusted signatures into the signatures db and making a new entry, or simply adding a hash of the kernel to that database ..
[08:51] <Beldar> djapo, If you figure it out you will have a following. ;)
[08:51] <djapo> what a world, can't even change a tablets os without a phd
[08:52] <faschel> NGC3982, you bet.
[08:53] <djapo> *not implying that i have a phd*
[08:55] <ne2k> how do I do the equivalent of gnome-screensaver-command -d under 14.04?
[08:55] <Beldar> give yourself time ;)
[09:00] <neutralizer> hi, where can I ask about phones especially nokia phones? is there IRC channel for that?
[09:00] <djapo> neutralizer: xda developers
[09:00] <djapo> is nokia android?
[09:01] <n1n0> hi. cannot connect 14.10 to wifi. freshly installed. password ok, the other devices connecting.
[09:01] <neutralizer> djapo: is that irc channle? no nokia is not andoid. it's more toward windows
[09:01] <Ben64> n1n0: 14.10 isn't released yet, support in #ubuntu+1 until then
[09:01] <Beldar> n1n0, The wifi hardware is?
[09:01] <n1n0> speedtouch
[09:02] <djapo> neutralizer: its a forum
[09:02] <Beldar> n1n0, This internal or external?
[09:03] <Ben64> Beldar: if you want to help n1n0 with 14.10, can you do so in #ubuntu+1 ?
[09:03] <n1n0> Beldar speedtouch is the router
[09:03] <n1n0> Beldar pardon, 14.04
[09:03] <Lachezar> Hello all!
[09:03] <Beldar> n1n0, What is the wifi on the computer, look for it in lspci run in the terminal.
[09:04] <Lachezar> For some development tests I need to locally handle specific connections to a remote server. Local:* -> Remote:port should be handled by a local daemon running on a different port. How can I do that?
[09:04] <cezdev> Hi Lachezar!
[09:04] <n1n0> qualcom atheros
[09:05] <n1n0> Beldar qualcom atheros ar9485
[09:06] <Lachezar> I think this is called a transparent proxy, but I am lost as to how to implement that in Ubuntu.
[09:06] <neutralizer> djapo: thanks. I guess I have been already there for android stuff
[09:06] <DJones> n1n0: Beldar has just lost his connection, you may have to wait till he reconnects
[09:06] <n1n0> DJonex thx
[09:07] <faschel> are there any extensions that are compatible with the current gnome version that display cpu temp in the top bar?
[09:08] <neutralizer> I will ask my questions here. I am looking for a cheap nokia phone which I can use to connect to linux for sending SMS and make calls (using dialer or something). Anyone have tried something like this before?
[09:09] <Ben64> neutralizer: this channel is for ubuntu support, not phones
[09:11] <faschel> neutralizer, from my experience, someone who asks a question like that in the way that you asked it has a couple years of intense self-education before they are anywhere near their original goal.
[09:12] <faschel> but like Ben64 said, this isn't the place for that sort of question
[09:12] <priuon> how do i manually check for upgrades?
[09:12] <priuon> or updates ...
[09:12] <Ben64> priuon: "sudo apt get update" will check, but not update anything
[09:12] <priuon> Ben64, how do i show any updates?
[09:13] <priuon> Ben64, how do i show available updates?
[09:13] <neutralizer> Ben64: I am aware of this fact. I guessed the linux part would make it suitable.
[09:13] <Ben64> priuon: "sudo apt get dist-upgrade" will do the upgrade, usually asking you if you want to proceed
[09:13] <neutralizer> faschel: sorry did not get you
[09:13] <Ben64> neutralizer: please note that this channel is for ubuntu support only, not generic linux questions or things like that
[09:14] <neutralizer> Ben64: gotcha!
[09:15] <faschel> neutralizer, nothing, i was just being a dick.  sorry
[09:15] <abhie2e> how to autohide unity left bar in 140.04?
[09:15] <faschel> i didn't realize english wasn't your native language
[09:15] <abhie2e> neutralizer, you can try ##linux
[09:15] <priuon> I'd like to install evolution but it has broken dependencies. what am i doing wrong? (same issue on chromium-browser)
[09:16] <abhie2e> priuon, what happend to geary?
[09:16] <priuon> abhie2e, it crashed twice with SIGSEV.
[09:16] <priuon> abhie2e, I kinda liked it. But it doesn't allow for plaintext only
[09:16] <abhie2e> priuon, are you really using xubuntu or some derivative of ubuntu?
[09:16] <cfhowlett> priuon multiple breaks do happen but not often.  update and dist-upgrade
[09:17] <snesker> please solve this: http://i.imgur.com/NUpLh7t.png
[09:17] <bekks> snesker: How is it related to Ubuntu?
[09:17] <priuon> abhie2e, and i also need to check stuff on the emails before opening it. the reading pane seemed to be fully integrated
[09:17] <priuon> abhie2e, yeah xubuntu 12.04.04
[09:17] <snesker> bekks: solve that, too
[09:17] <cfhowlett> snesker wrong channel.
[09:18] <bekks> snesker: No. It is offtopic in here.
[09:18] <snesker> bekks: you're not solving hard enough
[09:18] <abhie2e> priuon, ok
[09:18] <bekks> snesker: I am ignoring your for your spam. *plonk*
[09:18] <abhie2e> how to autohide unity left bar in 14.04?
[09:18] <cfhowlett> !topic|snesker you're in the wrong channel
[09:19] <priuon> cfhowlett, dist-upgrade makes no changes and the problem persists
[09:19] <mark06> how can I know the repository component of a given installed package?
[09:19] <cfhowlett> mark06 apt-cache show packagename
[09:20] <priuon> what else could i do to get evolution and chromium-browser installed?
[09:20] <mark06> cfhowlett: which line of that?
[09:20] <cfhowlett> mark06 simpler display would be apt-cache policy packagename
[09:21] <cfhowlett> priuon apt-get purge evolution chromium-browser
[09:21] <cfhowlett> then do a reinstall
[09:21] <jnhghy> hi, I was playing and installing webservers... I've usded apache2 then installed nginx (ubuntu 12.04 lts) now when I restart my machine nginx is starting apache2 is stop. I'd like things to be the other way arround (nginx stoped and apache2 default started) is it possible? if it is how can I achieve this?
[09:21] <priuon> abhie2e, everything else about geary seemed rather optimal. okay i didn't come to the point as to beeing able to get sender and receiver emailadresses displayed in the emails list wich is a requirenment.
[09:21] <mark06> cfhowlett: ok but which line ofshow?
[09:21] <cfhowlett> jnhghy if no response here, ask in #ubuntu-server
[09:21] <abhie2e> priuon, write your own software? :-p
[09:22] <jnhghy> cfhowlett: I'm not using a server ... can I ask there even if on normal install?
[09:22] <priuon> abhie2e, right ;)
[09:22] <cfhowlett> jnhghy yes
[09:22] <djapo> ok so replacing the os that is installed on the rt tablets is anoying but can os be live booted, say ubuntu, without the bootloader c*ck blocking the bootstrap :/
[09:22] <mark06> cfhowlett: neither of them show that, please stop fake help
[09:22] <jnhghy> cfhowlett: ok, thanks
[09:23] <priuon> cfhowlett, there was nothing to purge. both apps never installed due to the broken dependencies
[09:23] <cfhowlett> mark06          500 http://cn.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages
[09:23] <cfhowlett> mark06 note the repo - a little reading goes a long wa
[09:23] <priuon> hcfhowlett: ttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7668068/
[09:24] <priuon> cfhowlett, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7668068/
[09:24] <gry> how do i install iwl4965 on ubuntu? i lost it when upgrading
[09:24] <cfhowlett> priuon read it.  ask in channel how to cure broken packages in general
[09:25] <priuon> in this channel?
[09:25] <gry> yes
[09:25] <cfhowlett> priuon sure
[09:25] <Sunstream_> bye bye XP
[09:25] <priuon> well how do i cure broken dependencies?
[09:26] <gry> i personally fire aptitude on it and it offers me few solutions
[09:26] <gry> apt-get has a '-f' option on it too, but i don't know how to use it without providing a specific package name
[09:26] <Ben64> sudo apt-get -f install
[09:26] <mark06> cfhowlett: ok, sorry then... although that's not ideal, I won't remember 'policy' next time I want it :( but thanks anyway
[09:26] <waterboy0911_> sudo apt-get -y install
[09:28] <jillesme> Is this channel also for Ubuntu server? :)
[09:28] <faschel> hey, the tilde key on my keyboard isn't working.  has anyone had that problem?
[09:29] <priuon> what's this: 3.4.0-0ubuntu1 ?
[09:29] <bekks> priuon: a version number
[09:29] <Sunstream_> Good riddence i tried to do an alongise install no go
[09:29] <Guest47486> i lost connection, sorry
[09:29] <gry2_> it is really unstable for the reason i mentioned
[09:29] <priuon> what does aptitude want to tell me with "you have held broken packages."?
[09:29] <cezdev> So guys
[09:30] <bekks> priuon: that packages are in an inconsistant state.
[09:30] <priuon> bekks: how do i find out the version number i have installed?
[09:30] <cezdev> What's is a stable driver for a Nvidia GTX 560 So I can play Witcher 2 on Ubuntu
[09:30] <priuon> bekks: how do i fix this?
[09:30] <mark06> jillesme: #ubuntu-server :)
[09:30] <cezdev> Beldar helped me pretty good
[09:30] <jillesme> Thanks mate mark06
[09:30] <gry2_> hi
[09:31] <bekks> priuon: pastebin: "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" please
[09:31] <waterboy0911_> any news here?
[09:31] <priuon> bekks: it won't do changes
[09:31] <mark06> priuon: in the past, when I had broken packages for whatever reason, I just reinstalled all of them, or removed with purging if I didn't need it...
[09:31] <bekks> priuon: So pastebin the requested information.
[09:31] <mark06> priuon: what do you want? just make it into a clean state?
[09:32] <priuon> mark06: want to install chromium-browser and evolution on this xubuntu 12.04.04
[09:32] <mark06> priuon: if so, try apt-get autoremove --purge....
[09:32] <bekks> priuon: So pastebin the requested information.
[09:33] <priuon> bekks: give me a second. I figured my software center config might influence aptitude
[09:33] <gry2_> fyi i tried apt-cache search iwl, found nothing
[09:33] <gry2_> i'm like transparent here
[09:34] <bekks> priuon: stop both, and pastebin the information requested. last chance to do so.
[09:34] <gry2_> a lot of internet suggests to compile manually, but i don't really think it's gone from repos
[09:34] <priuon> bekks: i changed some settings and doing a <280MB upgrade now
[09:34] <mark06> priuon: and the related packages are on an inconsistent state? ok then remove the packages with --purge and then run apt-get autoremove --purge.... (that would remove the depencies)... this should reset you to a clean state
[09:34] <faschel> when you make the tilde symbol(~), you hit shift+<another key>.  this <another key> isn't working on my computer.  could someone hit that key for me or tell me the name of it so I can figure out what is going on?
[09:35] <bekks> priuon: whatever. I m not going to care about your issues anymore since you dont provide the data you are being asked for. good luck.
[09:35] <gry2_> ~ . this key has ~ and ` on it, at the left of numbers
[09:35] <faschel> thanks
[09:35] <faschel> gry2_, ^^
[09:35] <gry2_> :)
[09:35] <priuon> bekks: give me a break. i can't provide the data atm
[09:36] <waterboy0911_> hi ctc?
[09:36] <faschel> that was probably the strangest question i've ever asked
[09:36] <bekks> priuon: I dont care about your issues anymore.
[09:36] <waterboy0911_> :)
[09:36] <gry2_> bekks: patience sir
[09:36] <gry2_> bekks: please :)
[09:36] <priuon> bekks: i read your request only after i started doing the changes
[09:37] <gry2_> priuon: i'm sure he's not lost interest ;)
[09:37] <faschel> If anyone is interested, the ` key is called the grave accent
[09:37] <gry2_> ah, thanks faschel :)
[09:37] <priuon> gry2_, not so sure about it ..
[09:37] <Tii> hey guys, I have a problem compiling php on my new server... I configured as usual but the libtool that is generated by ./configure is crap... the sys_lib_dlsearch_path_spec variable is totally messed up... don't know why. I pasted the first few lines in here: http://pastebin.com/28dZvfJg
[09:37] <Tii> i compared this to the one on my old server, and there were only (as expected) a few paths but no unicode crap
[09:37] <Tii> and interestingly enough this variable initialization goes from line 335 to line 151189...
[09:37] <Tii> so the compile process takes FOREVER
[09:37] <Tii> but of course failes, because of this unicode crap
[09:37] <faschel> i still have no idea why it is not working....this is a fresh install
[09:37] <Tii> does anyone know how this sys_lib_dlsearch_path_spec variable gets generated?
[09:37] <unopaste> Tii you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[09:37] <mark06> faschel: I don't hit hift+key to make a ~, I hit ~
[09:37] <mark06> *shift
[09:37] <somsip> faschel: back tick
[09:38] <bekks> gry2_: You are wrong. I am sure I will not care about whatever is is doing in the future.
[09:38] <gry2_> mark06: no, shift + that key, unless you're not using qwerty or whatever
[09:38] <bekks> gry2_: *he
[09:38] <faschel> ah fuck.  i just figured it out.  im in german, not english
[09:38] <bekks> gry2_: I said I dont care, I will not care.
[09:38] <faschel> thanks mark06
[09:38] <gry2_> bekks: that is not nice, please try to be more patient next time; that little of an issue shouldn't irritate or sadden in the slightest :)
[09:39] <cfhowlett> faschel language pease ...
[09:39] <cfhowlett> *please*
[09:39] <gry2_> bekks: i mean it :)
[09:39] <faschel> cfhowlett, german, english, or spanish is fine
[09:39] <priuon> bekks: i can't do more then appologize. I didn't mean to oversee your request
[09:40] <cfhowlett> faschel OK - but I was actually gently reminding you to keep it clean for this family-friendly channel.
[09:40] <faschel> cfhowlett, i know
[09:40] <mark06> gry2_: what do you mean no, that I'm lying?
[09:43] <mark06> Tii: man that looks horrible, do you at least know what's that garbage? what file is that which got inlined there?
[09:44] <Tii> mark06, I don't know what exact file (because I have absolutely no idea where this variable content comes from) But I assume it's an *ar archive*
[09:44] <mark06> either way, I guess looking at what the configure does is the way to go...
[09:44] <priuon> will xubuntu not persist terminal settings?
[09:45] <priuon> for no apparent reason the scrollback is not the way i set it anymore
[09:45] <mark06> Tii: check the part of configure which generates that line... it's getting confused somehow...
[09:45] <Tii> mark06, Ok I'll try to find it..
[09:45] <i336_> Tii: or perhaps pastebin the whole configure script
[09:45] <gry2__> priuon: click it through the settings again - if a particular setting gets reset, please, name it and your Terminal version
[09:45] <mark06> Tii: grep sys_lib_dlsearch_path_spec /path/to/configure....
[09:45] <i336_> Tii: or that ^
[09:46] <Tii> i336_, oh hello there :)
[09:46] <priuon> gry2_ Terminal 0.4.8 Scrollback
[09:47] <priuon> thanks guys. it seems i can install evolution now
[09:49] <i336_> ohi :P
[09:51] <gry2__> priuon: 0.6.3 here and it works for me; what Ubuntu version are you using and did you try to 'apt-get update' then 'apt-get install xfce4-terminal' as sudo?
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[09:51] <gry2_> priuon: with due cursing at my unreliable internet, I have xfce4-terminal 0.6.3 here and it works for me; what Ubuntu version are you using and did you try to 'apt-get update' then 'apt-get install xfce4-terminal' as sudo?
[09:51] <gry2_> (these messages were sent around 2 minutes ago)
[09:52] <priuon> gry2_, xubuntu 12.04.04
[09:53] <Tii> mark06, i336_, thats all it has found: http://pastebin.com/k0MwuhRY It takes a while to check the variables... I'll be back in touch then...
[09:54] <i336_> Tii: lines like line 109534 look particularly suspicious:
[09:54] <mark06> Tii: how about grep -rn 1402823441  /usr/lib*
[09:54] <i336_> 109534: ys_lib_dlsearch_path_spec="/usr/lib${libsuff} /lib${libsuff}"
[09:54] <gry2_> okay, give me a minute, I'll try to load the packages.ubuntu.com website to look up the terminal version in 12.04
[09:54] <gry2_> priuon: It looks like you're on the latest sadly. If you want a later version, you have to upgrade. I might suggest that you try it under another OS user (such as guest session) and see if the issue persists there.
[09:55] <mark06> i336_: what's wrong there
[09:55] <i336_> mark06: I'd bet a few cents that ${libsuff} is being subtituted with an actual file
[09:55] <i336_> mark06: or something similar in one of the other instances in the file
[09:59] <mark06> i336_: doesn't the !<arch> part look like some sort of config line?
[09:59] <i336_> mark06: head -n 2 <any .deb you like>
[10:00] <i336_> mark06: that's the .deb file format, AND the format produced by the historical `ar' archiver
[10:02] <mark06> i336_: good, I see an ELF there so it contains an executable, I guess... I'd just grep for 1402823441 and find where the file is located... then track it down form there in configure
[10:02] <i336_> mark06: I see...
[10:02] <Tii> why 1402823441 ?
[10:02] <Tii> oh ... forget about it xD
[10:02] <i336_> Tii: to find the file data being included for w/e bizarre reason
[10:03] <Tii> mark06, i336_  nothing found
[10:04] <i336_> Tii: you ran something along the lines of "grep 1402823441 -r *" ?
[10:04] <Tii> What mark06 posted earlier
[10:04] <Tii> for /usr/lib*
[10:04] <i336_> oh
[10:05]  * i336_ boggles
[10:05] <Tii> it outputs two error lines - no such file for /usr/lib/ispell/default.aff and (same directory) default.hash
[10:07] <Tii> Maybe I just go over each line containing sys_lib_dlsearch_path_spec in configure and echo any use variable in a file :D
[10:07] <Tii> BUT
[10:08] <Tii> I just ran grep -rn 1402823441 /usr and got
[10:08] <Tii> Binary file /usr/local/lib/libltdl.a matches
[10:08] <mark06> hey, I got the file open!
[10:09] <gry2_> Where can I see the data "popularity-contest" package sent?
[10:09] <Sunstream_> okay question
[10:09] <mark06> hmm no nevermind
[10:10] <Sunstream_> i want to disable visual effects in 14.04  how do i do this
[10:10] <mark06> Tii: how about grep -rn 1402823441  /etc ... sorry I think that's rather a config file
[10:10] <i336_> mark06: .a files are static libraries packed with `ar'
[10:10] <i336_> mark06: I forgot... I just discovered that the other day
[10:11] <i336_> mark06: you toss them at gcc and they get statically linked into your binary
[10:11] <i336_> mark06: think the static equivalent of .so
[10:11] <i336_> mark06: (different file format, but practically speaking, yeah)
[10:11] <mark06> i336_: so the number is part of the file?
[10:12] <Tii> no results on /etc, only grep: /etc/vz/dev/vzlink: Operation not permitted grep: /etc/blkid.tab: No such file or directory
[10:12] <mark06> and it doesn't start with !<arch>?
[10:12] <i336_> mark06: I would think so
[10:12] <i336_> mark06: "!<arch>" = file produced by `ar'; ar files = used for .deb archives and static libraries
[10:12] <cedric__> i've asked if somebody gone to fb site because it was crashed during sevral minutes today
[10:12] <i336_> Tii, mark06: so, not a .deb file; a library something's trying to link in
[10:13] <mrdigital> clear
[10:14] <i336_> Tii, mark06: this is my Grand Theory(TM): something's said "and all the libraries in this directory" using syntax such as "$DIR*". Somehow DIR has resolved to a single filename, so $DIR* matches that single file, not the directory, including the file in the libtool script
[10:14] <i336_> Tii, mark06: vague and crazy, but that's the farthest I can go...
[10:14] <Tii> mark06, i336_, But isn't /usr/local/lib/libltdl.a our file?
[10:15] <i336_> Tii: yes, that's the single file referenced
[10:15] <Tii> mark06, i336_ just for understanding...
[10:15] <Tii> oka
[10:15] <Tii> y
[10:15] <i336_> I mean, it could be something completely different, but you now have something very concrete to poke the ubuntu bugtracker with
[10:16] <i336_> [ some point in the future on the ubuntu bugtracker: ] "ohi, I haz the contents of /usr/local/lib/libltdl.a in my libtool script!" -> "O.o?!?! *dozens of people inspect bug report out of pure curiosity"
[10:16] <i336_> :P
[10:17] <robotdevil> omg alurus is just like SIW
[10:17] <mark06> got it!
[10:17] <i336_> mark06: ?!?!?
[10:17] <robotdevil> ailurus*
[10:17] <mark06> hmm no nevermind again haha
[10:17] <priuon> what email client will never display "Display Names" in a column or offer the solumns that do so?
[10:17] <i336_> ah.
[10:17] <i336_> priuon: what do you mean?
[10:18] <priuon> i336_, all emailclients i installed so far will either only or always display "Display Names" associated to an emailaddress.
[10:18] <i336_> oh.. I see, a contacts thing
[10:18] <priuon> i336_, i don't want any contact management capabilities at all
[10:19] <i336_> wow, that's a hard one
[10:20] <priuon> evolution seemed okay. But it doesn't offer the columns i need
[10:20] <Tii> mark06, i336_: So what's next? What can I do?
[10:20] <gry2_> priuon: Hi. I think this column is a part of protocol, and you can make these display names empty anyway.
[10:21] <priuon> gry2_, how do i clear them?
[10:21] <gry2_> priuon: Have you tried Thunderbird? And are these columns in address book or where specifically?
[10:21] <i336_> Tii: you actually have something concrete: /usr/local/lib/libltdl.a has wound up in your libtool script. You can report that to the Ubuntu and PHP bugtrackers, and probably get a helpful result.
[10:21] <gry2_> priuon: In existing messages you received, you can't clear it, if the sender included his/her name in the FROM field.
[10:21] <priuon> gry2_, these columns show in the inbox and folders
[10:22] <gry2_> priuon: So you'd like to not see sender column at all? Or would you like to still see it, but only see his/her email?
[10:22] <i336_> Tii: although I'd probably just send to the Ubuntu bugtracker.
[10:22] <priuon> gry2_, yeah well i don't mind seeing email context when i open them
[10:22] <priuon> but i don't want to see any content in the list
[10:22] <i336_> Tii: one completely different approach would be to... simply download a different version of PHP. like, a version earlier or something.
[10:22] <gry2_> priuon: In Thunderbird you can switch off any columns using a button at right top of the list view.
[10:22] <Tii> i336_, already tried that.. same problem
[10:22] <priuon> most of all don't i want the app to do anything with the data received
[10:22] <i336_> Tii: hm :/
[10:23] <Tii> i336_, or at least a related one
[10:23] <i336_> Tii: ??
[10:23] <Tii> i336_, I'm not sure, if it was the same error... But I think so
[10:23] <i336_> interesting
[10:23] <gry2_> priuon: I think Thunderbird downloads the "headers" by default (the message subject, from, to fields) but does not download any content.
[10:23] <priuon> gry2_, thunderbird still does not offer the columns i need by default and worst not optional behaviour is having custom view for each folder (as evolution does have as well apparently)
[10:24] <gry2_> priuon: I see. What columns you need by default?
[10:24] <i336_> priuon: try opera mail, included with old versions of opera for linux
[10:24] <priuon> gry2_, well the downloading is not that much of an issue.
[10:24] <i336_> priuon: protip: ftp.opera.com :P
[10:24] <priuon> gry2_, sender and recipients.
[10:24] <priuon> gry2_, but co derived formats
[10:24] <i336_> as a bonus, it doubles as a superfast browser that can sortakinda render today's websites :P
[10:25] <i336_> (presto is very old now though)
[10:25] <mark06> Tii: sorry I was trying to open the file, do you program?
[10:25] <i336_> mark06: likely in PHP :P
[10:25] <lavine> superfast i think is FF :P
[10:25] <priuon> gry2_, i want to see the adresses used in the header. nothing else
[10:25] <Tii> mark06, yep, various c-like languages
[10:25] <i336_> lavine: true, I think firefox is noticeably faster than chrome here
[10:25] <i336_> Tii: \o/
[10:25] <gry2_> priuon: No subject? Only the sender and receiver e-mail (without display name)?
[10:25] <priuon> gry2_, sure subject as well ;)
[10:26] <lavine> it's true..! You see chrome 26 have many bug..special is shockwaves
[10:26] <gry2_> I see.
[10:26] <i336_> lavine: ha
[10:26] <priuon> gry2_, but this is almost always present as far as i can tell
[10:26] <i336_> lavine: you mean flash? :P
[10:26] <lavine> some people tell FF is slowly..if you optimaze it..it' will running fast better than any browser
[10:27] <gry2_> priuon: I think Thunderbird shows both of these by default (sender and receiver) but display names thing is something you can clear after you added these folks to address book (at best!) since if you look at message raw source, their display name sits in there. I'll see if it's configurable though.
[10:27] <i336_> lavine: agreed
[10:27] <lavine> yup..i using backbox and have many bug before i'm fixed
[10:27] <i336_> mmm
[10:27] <priuon> gry2_, i don't want to keep any contacts
[10:27] <lavine> I'm from Vietnamese ..! Hello all :D
[10:27] <gry2_> priuon: OK.
[10:27] <i336_> lavine: .au here :P
[10:27] <mark06> Tii: ok then the answer is on the configure file... you have at least one file which is probably in that junk... next  step to me would be see all pieces in configure related to '/usr/local/lib' and 'libltdl'
[10:28] <lavine> welcome ;)
[10:28] <i336_> ^^
[10:28] <Tii> mark06, yeah I'm already onto it...
[10:28] <lavine> so fun to join room to helped many people
[10:28] <priuon> gry2_, but might think about doing so. But i really don't want to see display names in the folder view (that is supposed to be global)
[10:28] <i336_> agreed
[10:29] <usrb1n> Hello everybody. I tried to configure postfix and I guess I've did that. I can see the mail in each user home directory on the following path: /home/user/Maildir/new  as a long filename (including date,some string, the hostname) but I can't get it from mail and I also don't get any notification when I get the mail
[10:29] <mark06> Tii: also, can you paste /usr/local/lib/libltdl.a? paste it as text anyway
[10:29] <usrb1n> So the mail commands returns No mail for user
[10:29] <usrb1n> But the mail goes directly to /home/user/Maildir/new
[10:29] <usrb1n> Nothing in /var/mail or /var/spool/mail
[10:30] <priuon> gry2_, well i already tried everything the thunderbird gui offers but could not configure it correctly. there is an addon for the columns i need. But having to configure any folder seperately is just to much work
[10:31] <Tii> mark06, not sure how I should do that xD if i echo the file my console is doing strange things...
[10:31] <mark06> i336_: australian ? hi dude... I was for australia in their world cup matches
[10:31] <i336_> priuon: to confirm, you just want to see email addresses, no email text, and no username?
[10:31] <priuon> gry2_, (doing the apply foldersettings to folder xy is manually in that sense)
[10:31] <i336_> mark06: oh cool :P
[10:31] <priuon> i336_, yeah :)
[10:31] <i336_> priuon: I see
[10:31] <i336_> Tii: moment
[10:31] <i336_> Tii: cat /usr/local/lib/libltdl.a | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[10:31] <i336_> Tii: sprunge.us == commandline pipe-paste service \o/
[10:32] <priuon> i336_, and i want to configure folder preferences globally. not seperately for every folder
[10:32] <lavine> yeah..Worlcup ..so bad for spanish :v
[10:32] <Tii> i336_, perfect, thank you
[10:32] <priuon> foremost i'd like to remove separate configuration capabilities for folders totally
[10:32] <mark06> i336_: I mean, against those they were playing with... :)
[10:32] <Tii> mark06, i336_: So there it is: http://sprunge.us/CLNX
[10:33] <lavine> last night i watched spain play..i think chile vs Laos :)))))
[10:33] <OerHeks> priuon, you just typed more than you would need to configure your folders
[10:33] <priuon> *i'd want" might suit this sentence better.
[10:33] <cfhowlett> !ot|lavine please ... thanks
[10:33] <priuon> OerHeks. with some 100 folders i don't think you are right about it
[10:33] <lavine> sorry all :P
[10:34] <mark06> lavine: surprising the last champions are out in only two matches... I'm afraid of netherlands now :'-(
[10:35] <lavine> worldcup this year i think so boring..not make fan feeling fun ;)
[10:36] <lavine> Portugal have news..Ronaldo had big injured ;)
[10:36] <cfhowlett> guys - please take off-topic discussions to the #off-topic channel.  thank you.
[10:36] <Jeroen_Mathon> lavine this channel is for support not for general chatter
[10:36] <DJones> lavine: This channel is Ubuntu support, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for non support chat
[10:36] <usrb1n> Any idea why mailx is not reading the email but I can see them on /home/user/Maildir/new ?
[10:37] <Jeroen_Mathon> usrb1n: Sorry can't help you with that one but i could do some research for you.
[10:38] <mark06> Tii: hmm it has "/               1402823441  0     0     0       668       " but everything after that looks different from the junk piece
[10:38] <usrb1n> I have tried to search a solution but didn;t found anything. The only think I think it could affect is postconf -e "home_mailbox = Maildir/"   maybe this has changed the default folder
[10:38] <usrb1n> So mail isn't going anymor to //var/spool/mail and mailx has nothing to read
[10:38] <Tii> mark06, Maybe because I copied the other line from an editor?!
[10:38] <Tii> mark06, maybe it's just a display-thing
[10:39] <MS4Life> fix my computer please.
[10:39] <MS4Life> its broken...
[10:39] <MS4Life> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F90Cw4l-8NY
[10:39] <cfhowlett> !details|MS4Life nope
[10:39] <mark06> Tii: yopu edited the .a file?
[10:39] <lavine> many spam
[10:40] <Tii> mark06, no, but the variable assignment (including the suspicious file content) was copied from an editor... (cause i opened it)
[10:40] <MS4Life> Mark shuttleworth tickles my balls
[10:40] <MS4Life> why?
[10:40] <MS4Life> im so fucking funny
[10:41] <vifino> ...
[10:41] <cfhowlett> !ops|MS4Life
[10:41] <Tii> mark06, I would post it completely but it is very large...
[10:41] <Tii> oh
[10:41] <Tii> wait
[10:41] <i336_> thanks ^^
[10:41] <cfhowlett> DJones tyvm
[10:42] <i336_> o.o
[10:42] <mark06> Tii: ok man, I mean the 1402823441 is withing the assignment and if a file contains that, it would probably be the file getting inlined... but that .a file seems to have nothing more in common to the garbage than that piece....
[10:42] <Tii> that means it is not the only file that gets included or it gets included more than once
[10:43] <priuon> so do i really have to use thunderbird with all it's designflaws?
[10:43] <cfhowlett> priuon obviously no.
[10:43] <Tii> mark06, wait a moment, I'll try to post the whole libtool file...
[10:44] <priuon> cfhowlett, every other app did either the same or was unusable
[10:44] <lavine> -clear
[10:44] <Tii> mark06, 25MB
[10:44] <sl33k_> How do I search for a specific word in xml file?
[10:45] <i336_> sl33k_: grep word file.xml
[10:45] <i336_> sl33k_: try to more uniquely define the "word" or pattern
[10:45] <Tii> mark06, i336_: two things
[10:45] <i336_> priuon: I just checked and can tell you that opera mail does NOT have the features you're looking for :/
[10:46] <Tii> mark06, i336_: I can't post it anywhere, cause it's too huge and secondly: The variable has multiple !<arch> in there
[10:47] <i336_> hahahaha, the troll was too silly to change his IP before rejoining ^^
[10:47]  * i336_ has a bash script to get himself a new IP address if he needs one
[10:47]  * i336_ is also not a troll. :]
[10:47] <priuon> anyways I must have an SMTP client
[10:47]  * i336_ <3 ~/getnewip
[10:47] <i336_> Tii: okay, post the output of this:  grep "!<arch>" /(whatever paths you like)
[10:47] <mark06> i336_: I was able to link with that .a file on windows, not sure if it's just ok or just got ignored... the exe doesn't crash.....
[10:48] <priuon> i336_, is opera mail available for ubuntu/xubuntu?
[10:48] <i336_> Tii: err, hold it
[10:48] <mark06> i336_: but ar is unable to open that .a file
[10:48] <i336_> st
[10:48] <i336_> woops
[10:48] <i336_> Tii: grep '!<arch>' /(whatever paths you like)
[10:48] <mark06> Tii: libtool file? paste the configure script instead
[10:48] <i336_> Tii: bash will asplode with double-quotes
[10:49] <i336_> priuon: yes, I can get you the link, but I just checked, and it has absolutely no options for the kind of thing you're looking for
[10:49] <i336_> mark06: huh.
[10:49] <mark06> Tii: try pasting up to the second <arch>... on question.... is that junk in the configure script itself or somewhere else? where?
[10:50] <i336_> mark06:
[10:50] <i336_> ar t /usr/lib/libltdl.a
[10:50] <i336_> libltdl_libltdl_la-preopen.o
[10:50] <i336_> (pretend there's a $ before 'ar t')
[10:50] <i336_> and a few more lines
[10:50] <priuon> i336_, thanks ;)
[10:50] <Tii> mark06, this junk is in the libtool file, generated by the configure script
[10:50] <priuon> i336_, well i won't use it then i guess
[10:50] <i336_> priuon: ...I was kinda wondering what you meant there, yea :P
[10:50] <Tii> and i just figured out there are 6 !<arch> in libtool
[10:51] <i336_> Tii: [20:48:45] <i336_> Tii: grep '!<arch>' /(whatever paths you like)
[10:51] <mark06> i336_: is that the one he pasted?
[10:51] <Tii> two are the same number
[10:51] <i336_> Tii: wait, hold it
[10:51] <i336_> Tii: *this is the command I meant to say:*  grep '!<arch>' libtool
[10:51] <i336_> Tii: paste the output of THAT ^^^^^^
[10:51] <i336_> Tii: :D:D
[10:51] <Tii> i336_, I thought so ;)
[10:51] <mark06> Tii: the file is called 'libtool'?? odd
[10:51] <i336_> heh lol
[10:51] <i336_> mark06: part of autoconf
[10:52] <faschel> im on a fresh in stall of gnome-ubuntu on a new computer build, but im not getting any sound
[10:52] <faschel> atm, the sound is being run into the speakers via a display port
[10:52] <Tii> i336_, i think this i not going to work, because all that shit is in ONE line... and grep works per line, right?
[10:53] <i336_> Tii: oh, awesome... let's see now
[10:53] <faschel> I've never had to debug a sound problem/.  can someone tell me where the logs would be for this sort of thing?
[10:53] <Tii> i336_, if i output it, the console is playing crazy again, can't post it to sprunge, cause it takes too long
[10:54] <Tii> anyway, i have the numbers of all !<arch> whatevs
[10:54] <i336_> Tii: do you have a pastebin link to _some_ of the data inside libtool?
[10:54] <i336_> Tii: ...or, skip grep, that's what we want then :D
[10:54] <i336_> Tii: grep for those numbers in /usr or w/e :D
[10:55] <arun_> hi guys , how would I run a bash command and a python script at once using bash script/.sh
[10:55] <Tii> i336_, There is only the pastebin for the first lines, copied from an editor http://pastebin.com/28dZvfJg
[10:55] <Tii> jep, I'll write the out..
[10:55] <jrib> arun_: background the first command with "&".  Example: COMMAND1 & COMMAND2
[10:56] <mark06> i336_: ok, my 'libtool' is a shell script... why would a configure script ever *generate* a 'libtool' file?
[10:56] <WombleWasaCattha> hi, my ubuntu won't boot can anyone help me please? im talking to you from palm OS...
[10:57] <i336_> mark06: because that's how autoconf works... it's a wonderful mess of "why/how on earth does that work" for about 300 different variants of UNIX :P
[10:57] <mark06> Tii: can't you paste up to the second <arch>?
[10:57] <histo> !details | WombleWasaCattha
[10:57] <i336_> WombleWasaCattha: PALM OS FTW, toss the computer out the window :D:DD:D
[10:58] <histo> arun_: You want to call a bash script and python script from within the same bash script?
[10:58] <WombleWasaCattha> eh? why is ikonia private messaging me porn links?
[10:58] <mark06> i336_: I love the "auto" part... a whole chain of automation scripts to automate something else which was previously supposed to automate things.... configure, configure.am configure.in, configure.in.in etc :-(
[10:58] <arun_> histo: yeah
[10:59] <Tii> mark06, i336_ http://pastebin.com/zY0B1ErK This are all the numbers I found and the file that matches
[10:59] <i336_> mark06: libtool is part of that
[10:59] <Tii> These*
[10:59] <i336_> Tii: awesome digging. you have even more to boggle the ubuntu bugtracker with. ^^
[10:59] <i336_> Tii: really, you've practically nailed it for some guru who knows all about this stuff :P
[11:00] <Tii> mark06, i336_ Comment on that: python3.4, sox and svn is selfcompiled...
[11:00] <i336_> Tii: I personally am just chasing my tail here
[11:00] <i336_> Tii: ...ooh.
[11:00] <mark06> Tii: please paste a comlete <arch> segment... up to the next <arch>, I mean
[11:00] <Tii> i336_, thought so too :/
[11:00] <WombleWasaCattha> Is Ikonia a bot, he keeps private messaging me porn links :(
[11:00] <i336_> mark06: that would be binary data
[11:00] <OerHeks> WombleWasaCattha, knowing ikonia he is not, make a screenshot and join #ubuntu-ops please
[11:00] <i336_> WombleWasaCattha: yes, he would be
[11:00] <arun_> histo:  I need the both sh and py thing be runnning OR need to run 2 python using a single py
[11:00] <i336_> !ops|Ikonia
[11:00] <i336_> ^ ops: see what WombleWasaCattha said
[11:01] <histo> arun_: okay either way is rather easy so I don't understand the question
[11:01] <i336_> wait, that's a network issue
[11:01] <mark06> i336_: I love these stupid tools and how they make we believe we are dumb.... but dumb are their authors making us waste our time with stupid bugs like this one....
[11:02]  * i336_ just learned where the windows ding came from: a glass bowl just got PINGed in the kitchen, and I briefly thought there was a windows box with amazing speakers in there for a minute
[11:02] <i336_> !!!
[11:02] <i336_> mark06: yeah ._.
[11:02] <mark06> i336_: I wanna try opening it with ar or 7-zip.... because from the number we can't guess what file it is.... it doesn't make sense cause only that number is part of the .a file, not the rest, *why*
[11:02] <i336_> mark06: because that defines the size.
[11:03] <histo> Arbition: something like bash bashscriptname   and python pythonscriptname
[11:03] <histo> arun_: ^^
[11:03] <histo> s
[11:03] <mark06> i336_: but if we suspect each <arch> is a .a file, then whole segment should match the .a file
[11:04] <i336_> wha... wow, I so totally didn't see that WombleWasaCattha was the troll... wow
[11:04] <arun_> histo: and or & ??
[11:04] <i336_> mark06: hmm... yeah... *confuzled majorly*
[11:04] <i336_> unfortunately - and I've been unimpressed for a bit about this, wanted to figure this out :P - I have to go [out]
[11:04]  * i336_ bbl-ish (>.>) :P
[11:05] <histo> arun_: What is the ultimate goal?
[11:06] <Sunstream> system locks up
[11:06] <arun_> histo: I have a python script and I need to run that python script as well as give a notification using zenity
[11:06] <Tii> mark06, i336_: So this is from libtool: The beginning of the variable assignment up to the second !<arch> that comes up (not including)
[11:06] <Tii> http://sprunge.us/TFYQ
[11:06] <arun_> at once
[11:07] <histo> arun_: python scriptname  next line give notification to zenity
[11:07] <arun_> histo: didn't work
[11:07] <histo> arun_: pastebin your script
[11:07] <arun_> histo: ok
[11:08] <jrib> arun_: note i suggested you use "&" earlier
[11:08] <histo> arun_: do you have any experience with bash?
[11:08] <arun_> jrib: did that too
[11:08] <arun_> histo: yeah
[11:09] <jrib> arun_: this does what you asked
[11:09] <Tii> mark06, here again without that assignment: http://sprunge.us/KVJC
[11:09] <Tii> mark06, So it should be only the ar file
[11:09] <Tii> theoratically
[11:09] <priuon> how is the tab pane in thunderbird removed? I don't want to use ti
[11:09] <priuon> *it
[11:09] <Guest25683> my enter button stopped working...any ideas?
[11:10] <mark06> Tii: my ar couldn't open it....
[11:10] <priuon> and disable configurability of folders ....
[11:10] <mark06> Tii: paste whole configure script... did the configure came with the source code tarball or was it generated ?
[11:11] <Tii> mark06, configure came with php-5.4.29
[11:11] <jrib> Guest25683: verify it's not a hardware issue?
[11:11] <histo> !paste | arun_
[11:11] <gdm85> hi guys. I have this segfault in a dev box: https://gist.github.com/gdm85/85953da51c0877e682cb
[11:11] <gdm85> has anybody experienced other segfaults with svn?
[11:11] <Guest25683> its not...i ran scandisk c: under windows 3.1 and it still didnt fix...so i installed linux and then it got worse, it asked me to press the any key
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> gdm85: are there anhy bugs reported?
[11:13] <gdm85> ActionParsnip: nope. could it be possible that it's due to libc6 recently upgraded but system not rebooted yet?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> gdm85: possibly, give it a try is all I can say
[11:14] <Tii> mark06, here you have it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7668502/
[11:15] <arun_> guys http://dpaste.com/1J1SJWC
[11:15] <Tii> mark06, brb
[11:15] <arun_> histo: ^^
[11:16] <arun_> I need to run that python script and leave a notification
[11:16] <histo> arun_: No the script that calls that
[11:17] <Tii> mark06, re
[11:17] <arun_> bash /home/arun/Desktop/refresh.sh & python /home/arun/Desktop/refresh.py
[11:17] <histo> arun_: pastebin the refresh.sh please
[11:17] <mark06> Tii: still loading
[11:18] <raj> that's really sad, I didn't ubuntu one was being discontinued
[11:18] <arun_> ok
[11:18] <Tii> mark06, yeah, it's huge... ^^
[11:18] <arun_> #!/bin/bash
[11:18] <arun_> zenity --notification --text="hello"
[11:18] <arun_> sorry
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> arun_: you have added the headers to both scripts, so you can run:   /home/arun/Desktop/refresh.sh && /home/arun/Desktop/refresh.py
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> arun_: if you mark the files as executable
[11:18] <Sunstream> i wish i could turn off the desktop eggecta
[11:18] <Sunstream> effects
[11:18] <histo> arun_: after teh zenity line add python /home/aurnd/Desktop/refresh.py
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> arun_: you don't even need the file extension, they do nothing at all
[11:19] <arun_> ActionParsnip: yeah they are
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> arun_: then you can run them as I gave, the interpretter is set in the files, thats what that top line does :)
[11:20] <arun_> guys didn't work
[11:20] <arun_> the zenity works but not the python
[11:21] <arun_> guys, is it possible to create python script to run that script as function and zenity as function and make refresh work and then zenity work ?
[11:21] <Ryan6578> Hey. Having a problem installing ubuntu. Trying to install it on a laptop that has Windows previously installed on it. I mounted the .iso for Ubuntu to a 2GB flash drive, and booted from the flash drive and all I saw is a purple screen with a pixelated image at the bottom, and now it's just been sitting at a black screen with a blinking cursor for like 10 minutes.
[11:21] <histo> arun_: pastebin the script that doesn't work
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> arun_: have you asked in #pyton too
[11:22] <mark06> Tii: did you check buid log? there should be a config.log at the tree top... paste that too please...
[11:22] <priuon> how do i install old versions?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Ryan6578: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[11:22] <Ryan6578> ActionParsnip: I don't think so. What do you mean?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Ryan6578: I'm guessing by "mounted" you mean that you used unetbootin or similar to put the data from the ISO to the USB....
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Ryan6578
[11:22] <Ryan6578> ActionParsnip: Yeah.
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Ryan6578: you presently do not know for sure that the data you downloaded is complete or error free
[11:23] <priuon> i want something like thunderbird 1.0.1 ^^
[11:23] <Tii> mark06, moment
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> priuon: claws-mail ;)
[11:23] <Ryan6578> I downloaded the file directly from the Ubuntu.com site not to long ago though.
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Ryan6578: doesnt matter where it is from
[11:24] <priuon> ActionParsnip, it did not do what i want either
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Ryan6578: that is not what you are testing. The internet is one of the most unreliable networks and data can get mangled in transit
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Ryan6578: TCP does a decent job of dropping and re-requesting data but it is not perfect
[11:25] <arunpyasi> guys, I have merged that script and bash command and got this thing out http://dpaste.com/2AXY6NZ
[11:25] <Ryan6578> ActionParsnip: Okay. I'm going to check that now. I'll let you know what the results are.
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Ryan6578: you could get the ISO from the dodgeyest warez site owned by the Nazi's and as long as it passed MD5 check then it is fine
[11:25] <Ryan6578> xD
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Ryan6578: so "I got it from Ubuntu.com" doesnt mean anythin g at all, if the data is bad, it won't work
[11:26] <varikonniemi> is system-monitor supposed to only know about programs started before it self was strated?
[11:26] <Tii> mark06, maybe i should upload it as a file, it's 25mb large (i assume the variable content is in there too)
[11:27] <varikonniemi> i just spent 5 minutes very puzzled before i realized that maybr restarting the monitor would find what i was missing, and sure enough it did.
[11:27] <histo> arunpyasi: are you serious?
[11:27] <mark06> Tii: I've just downloaded php... line 110445 looks suspicious to me... note the \\\, same as in the garbage
[11:27] <Ryan6578> ActionParsnip: The MD5 checksums are identical - http://gyazo.com/9694cc8774928a38768e9eabeb1f2d43
[11:27] <sgfuy> i am trying to change my username in C:\Users , it seems quite complicated , i found this tuto "http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/147545-user-profile-folder-change-user-account-folder-name.html " , have anyone tryied it before , IS it safe ????
[11:27] <arunpyasi> histo: yeah , why not
[11:27] <arunpyasi> but doesn't work
[11:28] <arunpyasi> how would I run that both the shits
[11:28] <sgfuy> ??
[11:28] <histo> arunpyasi: We've all told you but you've ignored us.
[11:28] <mark06> Tii: ok then paste result of grep -rni -C 100 err config.log
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> Ryan6578: ok, please use that for ISOs in future, saves a lot of time :)
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> Ryan6578: what GPU arer you using?
[11:29] <Sunstream> so no one knows.....
[11:29] <Ryan6578> ActionParsnip: It's on-board graphics. I don't have a GFX card for that laptop.
[11:30] <OerHeks> sgfuy, we cannot tell, as it is an windows issue, join ##windows for that
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> Sunstream: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> Ryan6578: every system has a gpu
[11:30] <Tii> mark06, I assume the huge lib files are in the context, then
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> Ryan6578: just because it is onboard does not mean it doesnt have a video chip, the physical connectivity is irrelevant
[11:31] <Ryan6578> ActionParsnip: Let me boot into windows and I'll let you know.
[11:31] <arunpyasi> histo: sorry but there may be my internet failure thing atm
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Ryan6578: use device manager in Windows, what does it sahy the video chip is?
[11:31] <Sunstream> i cant do that right now i am trying to install wine
[11:31] <arunpyasi> histo: what was the suggestion ??
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Ryan6578: if a system does not have a video chip it will not POST
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Sunstream: sure you can, run another terminal....or even another tab in the same terminal
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Sunstream: did you seriously think you can have only one terminal open at a time?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Sunstream: dude at work I have about 12 with about 16 tabs apiece....
[11:33] <Sunstream> the issue is my gpu sucks
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Sunstream: press CTRL + ALT + T and you will get a new terminal, run:  'cat /etc/issue'   what is the output?
[11:33] <mark06> Tii: found line 113197 suspicious too
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Sunstream: its a single line so no need to pastebin
[11:33] <Ryan6578> ActionParsnip: Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset Family.
[11:33] <mark06> Tii: I don't what -C will tell
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Ryan6578: that is your GPU, the fact it is not on a separate video card is of zero consequence to any OS
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> Ryan6578: try the boot option 'nomodeset', it can help with Intel GPUs
[11:34] <Tii> mark06, http://dl.stevie-ray.me/config.log here you go, but it takes forever
[11:34] <Ryan6578> ActionParsnip: How would I do that?
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | Ryan6578
[11:34] <Sunstream> says Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> Sunstream: cool huh, 2 terminals.....imagine
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Sunstream: you could try gnome-shell, xfce4 or lxde instead of the default Unity shell + Compiz (Compiz gives the effects and uses the GPU to make them)
[11:36] <Sunstream> i suppose. but all i want to do is turn off the fade in out effects
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Sunstream: if you use a non-compoziting session, it will give a smoother desktop experience and labour your system less
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Sunstream: you can use ubuntu-tweak for that (might be unity-tweak)
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Sunstream: or if they dont do it, compizconfig-settings-manager is in the repos, but may cause issues
[11:37] <Sunstream> of which i cannot find said options
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Sunstream: under ccsm?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Sunstream: search on the main page of ccsm for the: close effect (i think its that)
[11:38]  * ActionParsnip hates compiz
[11:38] <gomaaz> hi
[11:38] <raj> openbox ftw
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> raj: +1 :)
[11:39] <abhie2e> which one of these is more compatible with ubuntu http://www.amazon.in/HP-15-d103TX-15-6-inch-Laptop-Sparklingblack/dp/B00KG6202Y?tag=googinhydr18418-21 or http://laptop.toshiba-india.com/product/SatelliteC50-AI2012
[11:39] <Sunstream> ccsm?
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> Sunstream: yes, i thought you couldnt find the setting
[11:39] <jdo_dk> I have extended a disc in vmware, but how do i get the extra disc "into" my partition in ubuntu ?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Sunstream: there is a settings tool, its not installed by default. I assumed you had installed it and tried to find it
[11:40] <Sunstream> i dont know what to look under in unity tweak to
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> jdo_dk: you will need to unmount the partition and you can then use gparted to grow the partition
[11:40] <Sunstream> nope
[11:40] <jdo_dk> ActionParsnip: Will try, thansk
[11:40] <jdo_dk> thanks even
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> jdo_dk: if you have grown the system partition you will need to down the system and use gparted in the ubuntu liveCD desktop
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Sunstream: install compizconfig-settings-manager and try that
[11:41] <Sunstream> so what do i  need to installl?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> jdo_dk: there is also a gparted liveCD which boots a bit quicker, but if you have the ubuntu CD (or ISO on your datastore) you may as well use taht
[11:43] <jdo_dk> ActionPArsnip: is gparted gui program ? I'm on a ubuntu server ?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> jdo_dk: yes gparted is GUI, but you can boot to GUI liveCDs
[11:43] <Ryan6578> ActionParsnip: Okay, so at the splash screen, I pushed F6 to set the kernal options, and it just freezes at the purple splash screen.
[11:44] <abhie2e__> which one of these is more compatible with ubuntu http://www.amazon.in/HP-15-d103TX-15-6-inch-Laptop-Sparklingblack/dp/B00KG6202Y?tag=googinhydr18418-21 or http://laptop.toshiba-india.com/product/SatelliteC50-AI2012
[11:44] <Ryan6578> ActionParsnip: I had also downloaded DBAN in order to wipe my drive, and pushing any buttons to start it freezes DBAN as well.
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> jdo_dk: there is a CLI way, but I dont like it. you delete the partition then make new with the new space and run a command against it
[11:44] <Sunstream> so why do these operating system makers enable these things by default? to make things prettier?
[11:46] <blinky_ghost>  /j #openstack-neutron
[11:46] <Sunstream> ... why do they want this stuff on by default?
[11:46] <faschel> are there any distros that dont make any changes to ubuntu other than the included repos?
[11:48] <Ben64> faschel: your question makes no sense
[11:49] <Sunstream> action, turned off animations and fade thanks. but mau i ask whats your theory to why  these are on by defaulr?
[11:49] <mark06> Tii: ok, my guess is that line 110445/113/523 (duplicated no idea why) fails because line 109560/113197 (note) fails first. That's awk but I don't really know awk... so no idea what it's doing...
[11:51] <mark06> Tii: either way you either found a bug or are missing something...  you may find more specialized help wherever php devs are around
[11:52] <Tii> mark06, hm... okay
[11:53] <robotdevil> cant I defrag a usb device (ext hdd) from a windows install in vbox?
[11:54] <bekks> robotdevil: you can.
[11:54] <robotdevil> Im in vboxers.
[11:54] <robotdevil> and guest additions installed
[11:54] <bekks> you need the extension pack for usb2 access.
[11:55] <Tii> mark06, thank you for your help :)
[11:55] <mark06> Tii: I mean, normally editing the configure file (the awk line) would not be the solution.... I'd maybe /join #awk as ask what that line means and how that could lead to an error like yours... then lucky find out "what went wrong" and think about the best fix (either a bug report or some change in your procedure).... sorry for not helping more.... these errors are as stupid as who wrote their software you know....
[11:55] <mark06> s/(note)//
[11:55] <robotdevil> bekks: ahh thanks repo or orc site?
[11:56] <bekks> robotdevil: official website, for both the vbox install and the extension pack.
[11:56] <usrb1n> Is it possible to read the mail from a specified address? I will have a report sent my email and I need built a script to identify when a mail comes from a specified sender and then extract the zip file attached
[11:57] <Tii> mark06, you were a huge help anyway!
[11:57] <Tii> mark06, so thank you
[11:57] <robotdevil> bekks: is the one in the repos neutered?
[11:57] <usrb1n> I have tried to use only "mail" command
[11:57] <histo> robotdevil: guest additions has to be installed
[11:57] <bekks> histo: wrong.
[11:57] <Tii> i336_, and thank you again ;) for further helping out :)
[11:57] <histo> bekks: no not wrong
[11:57] <bekks> histo: the guest additions are irrelevant for USB access.
[11:57] <histo> bekks: you need the extension and guest additions
[11:57] <bekks> histo: you dont need the guest additions at all.
[11:58] <mark06> no, good luck man :)
[11:58] <mark06> *np
[11:58] <histo> robotdevil: you add a filter for the usb device and it will be available to the vm
[11:59] <Tii> mark06, regarding the line numbers, what do you mean with /113/523 ?
[11:59] <bekks> histo: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch03.html#settings-usb second note section.
[11:59] <robotdevil> histo: I know where the setting is but I dont know what setting a filter does
[12:00] <bekks> robotdevil: A filter automatically passes through the filtered device to the vm.
[12:00] <robotdevil> I see
[12:00] <robotdevil> its for automagical
[12:01] <bekks> Which isnt needed, actually, since the USB device can be passed through manually.
[12:01] <robotdevil> thanks :-)
[12:02] <robotdevil> thought the additions and extension pack were same thing lol
[12:04] <mark06> Tii: typo, sorry, it's 113523
[12:04] <mark06> Tii: those two pairs are of duplicated lines.... there's a big part in that file that's duplicated, no idea why
[12:04] <Sunstream> thank you for the help all
[12:05] <Tii> mark06, ah okay, now it makes sense :)
[12:08] <abhie2e> how to install chkconfig in ubuntu?
[12:08] <Natas> OK..so I'm having problems starting Ubuntu in GUI mode. How do I log in to the same user account in the command line mode? I don't have very many files on the Ubuntu partition, and instead of screwing around with repairing the graphics drivers, I
[12:08] <Natas> O
[12:08] <Natas> I'd rather re-install Ubuntu.
[12:09] <Natas> I only want to copy paste whatever small files are there onto a USB stick... but my home folder's encrypted, and I'm not able to access the files from a LiveUSB session.
[12:09] <NewUser> Hello
[12:09] <NewUser> i got into a weird problem
[12:09] <arunpyasi> where can I get the gtk's notification command ?
[12:09] <NewUser> when i copy files to my external hdd they are fine.. but if i connect the harddisk to TV then the files are not shown
[12:10] <NewUser> werid
[12:10] <histo> arunpyasi: zenity?
[12:10] <arunpyasi> histo: other?
[12:10] <histo> NewUser: what file system ?
[12:10] <abhie2e> how to install chkconfig in ubuntu?
[12:10] <NewUser> NTFS
[12:10] <NewUser> NTFS histo
[12:10] <histo> NewUser: your tv understands ntfs?
[12:11] <NewUser> yes it does
[12:11] <NewUser> bcoz its playing other files.(videos and stuff)
[12:11] <raj> maybe it can't display the filetypes you've put on there
[12:11] <histo> NewUser: ls -l on the directory of the drive
[12:12] <histo> check your perms
[12:12] <histo> NewUser: and file type differences
[12:12] <Lorcatar> Which java compiler should I use with ubuntu gjc or default java?
[12:12] <NewUser> drwx histo
[12:13] <NewUser> histo btw folders are viewable but not the files!
[12:13] <histo> NewUser: type file somemove   compaired to file moviethatworks
[12:13] <histo> NewUser: How'd you get the 'other files' on there that work?
[12:14] <NewUser> using windows 7
[12:14] <NewUser> i mean i copied usign using win 7
[12:14] <histo> NewUser: Are you sure, these new files are in a codec that the tv understands and can play?
[12:15] <NewUser> yes
[12:15] <NewUser> mp3
[12:16] <NewUser> let me see.. i have other drive with fat format
[12:16] <NewUser> i will check with that
[12:19] <arunpyasi> Thanks guys , at last I made them work together
[12:19] <arunpyasi> !!! cheers
[12:19] <NewUser> histo its the filesystem problem
[12:19] <NewUser> histo if i copy the same folder into fat drive. its playing the file if ntfs drive then its not playing
[12:19] <NewUser> any fix for that?
[12:20] <Tii> mark06, i336_: I just looked into that /etc/ld.so.conf and there was some /usr/local/lib/*
[12:20] <Tii> I think that is exactly the problem... * not *.conf or something
[12:20] <mechanist> hello, I need to hire a good programmer. in which channel I could search? I pay well
[12:21] <sveta> mechanist, hi. In what field or technology?
[12:21] <i336_> Tii: amazing timing, I just got back from being out o.o
[12:21] <Tii> i336_, I knew that ;P
[12:21] <i336_> haha
[12:21] <i336_> Tii: as in, I sat down like 2.5 mins ago lol
[12:21] <mechanist> editing of particular binary files (in specific unreal PSK files)
[12:21] <MarioMey> Hi, there. Anybody knows xkbset command? I was testing some stuff with that command... and now, every time I boot, my keypad acts as a mouse. To deactivate it, I have to do "xkbset -m"... but I don't want to do it every day... I want to deactivate it completly.
[12:22] <iptable> 3 mins now
[12:22] <mechanist> feel free to query me
[12:22] <iptable> MarioMey, either 1. uninstall xkbset or 2. edit and empty the .xkb* file in your home dir (ls -a ~ to find it)
[12:22] <mechanist> sveta: do you know a channel in which I can ask?
[12:23] <flux242> anybody here who're using remmina nx plugin? I can't seem to find a solution to make it connect to a nx server. I get authentication error
[12:23] <sveta> mechanist, I see. Don't know programming channel about this specific field. Try ##programming possibly.
[12:23] <ikonia> there are bugs with NX between version compatbility,
[12:23] <mechanist> ok thank you
[12:23] <ikonia> make sure your versions match the server
[12:23] <i336_> MarioMey: quick google of some terms I related this to -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1262845
[12:23] <MarioMey> iptable: I don't have that file... so, I'll remove it.
[12:24] <i336_> mechanist: you might also ask in #blender-related files (if I'm on the same canvas here)
[12:24] <i336_> mechanist: err, s/files/channels/ lol
[12:24] <sveta> mechanist, elance.com and odesk.com are somewhat popular for this kind of thing. But if you want to do something locally, it may make sense to find a local group in this field.
[12:25] <MarioMey> iptable: I remove... but the keypad is still as a mouse. I tried to kill it... but there's no xkbset in memory... may it have another name?
[12:25] <iptable> MarioMey, yes. that will resolve the issue. xkbset has got some (ehm) defaults
[12:26] <iptable> MarioMey, no. although, you might want to reboot the machine for the sake of knowing. if that doesn't help, then you ahve changed maps permanently.
[12:26] <mechanist> sveta: interesting
[12:26] <MarioMey> iptable: Maybe I did it... I will reboot and we'll check it.
[12:27] <histo> NewUser: yeah use fat instead of ntfs
[12:27] <MarioMey> I was trying to emulate some keys with the mouse wheel...
[12:27] <MarioMey> iptable: Because the wheel didn't work in a particular program.
[12:27] <MarioMey> But I don't know what I did...
[12:27] <iptable> NewUser, most TVs and other embed devices only do fat (fat16/32)
[12:27] <flux242> ikonia: well I didn't wan't to install the official package because I only need nx client. damn
[12:28] <iptable> MarioMey, well, step one would be to know what you were doing and what you ahve run...
[12:28] <NewUser> iptable maybe not mine.. bcoz i have videos on my ntfs drive and they get played flawlessly :)
[12:28] <NewUser> so its kinda of ubuntu ntfs file format problem
[12:29] <iptable> NewUser, not really. My "share with anyone" drivves are all NTFS and no one ever complained
[12:29] <iptable> NewUser, it's your TV vs ubuntu problem ;)
[12:29] <histo> NewUser: something else is going on.
[12:30] <histo> NewUser: calculate a hash of a file on your ntfs drive compaired to the hash of the file on your fat drive
[12:30] <flux242> well, tell me what remote desktop software are you using?
[12:30] <histo> NewUser: also it could be file naming or directory structure there are so many variables.
[12:30] <rex> hello
[12:31] <rex> Anybody know how to get list of all the threads running in system ?
[12:32] <histo> rex: ps aux
[12:32] <flux242> i tried forwarding x session but it doesn't forward sound well. I tried remmina-rdp but it requires the xrdp and a vnc server to be installed
[12:32] <flux242> xrdpd
[12:33] <David1> hi
[12:33] <rex> @flux242 Thanks
[12:34] <flux242> rex: it's not for you
[12:35] <flux242> so, nobody're using remote desktops? hm...
[12:35] <NewUser> histo the compared the hash of same file in both fat and ntfs both are same
[12:36] <mark06> Tii: I had looked at mine but didn't see any special....  * not *.conf?
[12:36] <robotdevil> still cant access the usb hdd from vbox to defrag
[12:39] <histo> NewUser: filename and directory structure different?
[12:39] <IamTrying> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7668828/ - Why its not getting connected via SSH?
[12:39] <robotdevil> still cant access the ntfs usb hdd from vbox to defrag
[12:39] <NewUser> everything is same
[12:40] <histo> robotdevil: is this a thumb drive?
[12:40] <histo> NewUser: permissions?
[12:40] <robotdevil> histo: no
[12:40] <robotdevil> ntfs
[12:40] <histo> robotdevil: what does ntfs have to do with anything
[12:40] <David_> Can someone help me out with the grep function in the command line?
[12:40] <robotdevil> persmission
[12:40] <histo> robotdevil: did you create a filter?
[12:40] <NewUser> i checked every possible option.. create a new directory in external hdd and copying folders into the new directory and just directory copyin the folders i want into drive.. nothin works in ntfs drive.. and everything works in fat driver
[12:41] <robotdevil> histo: yep
[12:41] <histo> NewUser: Your tv probably doesn't understand ntfs
[12:41] <histo> NewUser: or is buggy with it
[12:41] <David_> Who's the command line wizzard here?
[12:41] <histo> robotdevil: does the guest see that a usb device is plugged in?
[12:41] <robotdevil> yep
[12:41] <NewUser> hmm..  it is playing HD videos from ntfs drive
[12:41] <NewUser> what i can say
[12:42] <histo> robotdevil: so what happens when you try to defrag?
[12:42] <histo> NewUser: contact your tv manuafacturer
[12:42] <robotdevil> no guest doesnt see it sorry
[12:42] <David_> Anyone capable of helping me out with the grep function?
[12:42] <histo> NewUser: it has nothing to do with ubuntu. I'm sure they are running linux on their tv but most likely it isn't ubuntu.
[12:43] <robotdevil> should be under my computer right?
[12:43] <iptable> David_, probably, if you actually ask the question
[12:43] <histo> NewUser: something is different between the two besides the filesystem if what you are saying that other files are working.
[12:43] <histo> David_: just ask
[12:43] <NewUser> hmm.. so is there anyway to convert ntfs to fat without losing the data?
[12:43] <histo> NewUser: no
[12:43] <iptable> NewUser, there are different versions and version supports for NTFS for all windows and linux
[12:44] <David_> I have textfile containing x-lines, of which some of them end with ", THE" I would like to create another file containing all the lines ending with ", THE"
[12:44] <iptable> NewUser, e.g. windows xp will not work with windows 8 NTFS unless XP is SP3.
[12:44] <David_> I think the grep function is what I need
[12:44] <iptable> NewUser, could be that, who knows.
[12:44] <iptable> NewUser, format to NTFS using LINUX and use then.
[12:44] <histo> NewUser: you'd have to copy the data out format the drive then copy the data back
[12:44] <NewUser> hmm..
[12:45] <histo> robotdevil: is there data present on the usb drive?
[12:45] <iptable> David_, cat FILE |grep -P ', THE$' > NEWFILE
[12:45] <David_> thanks iptable, I'll try!
[12:45] <histo> robotdevil: make sure the drive is unmounted on the host. create the filter and boot the guest
[12:45] <robotdevil> it is
[12:45] <robotdevil> automatically
[12:46] <histo> iptable: why cat to grep ?
[12:46] <iptable> histo, good point. I was thinking logarhytmically, sorry.
[12:46] <robotdevil> hey hey, reinstall driver
[12:46] <iptable> David_, here, making it simplier: grep -P ', THE$' FILE > NEWFILE
[12:46] <histo> David_: grep ', THE' somefile > newfile
[12:47] <iptable> histo, that won't grep ", THE" at the end of line, but anywhere. hence the -P and the $
[12:47] <robotdevil> thanks
[12:48] <histo> iptable: yeah don't need the -p but yeah $
[12:48] <robotdevil> wonder how long 3 TB  97 % full is going to take
[12:49] <iptable> histo, depends on version of ubuntu and grep. some grep will auto-switch to egrep, while others won't. for safety, invoke pcre grep (grep -P)
[12:49] <histo> iptable: isn't that perl though?
[12:49] <iptable> robotdevil, depends on protocol, although "damn long" would be a good estimate
[12:49] <iptable> histo, pcre regex
[12:49] <histo> yeah perl regexp experiemtnal
[12:49] <David_> @histo I tried it, but I end up with an empty file
[12:49] <iptable> histo, Perl Compatible Regular Expressions (pcre) - -P
[12:50] <MarioMey> iptable: I rebooted... and the keypad is a mouse again.
[12:50] <iptable> David_, did you replace somefile and newfile with the file names?
[12:50] <histo> iptable: direct invocation as egrep or fgrep is deprecated
[12:50] <iptable> MarioMey, it's meant to be, right?
[12:50] <MarioMey> No,.
[12:50] <MarioMey> I want my keypad as a keypad.
[12:50] <David_> iptable, yes I did
[12:50] <iptable> histo, correct, -E and -P should be used to avoid issues with different grep versions ;)
[12:51] <David_> I should add -E as well?
[12:51] <iptable> David_, which command DID you run (since we given so many)?
[12:51] <iptable> David_, and are you sure THE is at the end + is it a windows-formatted file?
[12:52] <histo> iptable: what issues?
[12:52] <David_> grep -P ', THE$' file > NEWFILE
[12:52] <iptable> David_, I will guess it's a windows formatted file and THE is not at the end. Run histo's alternative then
[12:52] <iptable> David_, grep ', THE' file > NEWFILE
[12:52] <David_> There are several lines containing a ", THE" at the end of the line
[12:52] <iptable> histo, I'm guessing you haven't been around grep for long ...
[12:53] <foufou> #univ-avignon
[12:53] <histo> iptable: this is the first i've heard of it not interpreting $ properly
[12:53] <iptable> David_, did you download the file form somewhere?
[12:53] <MarioMey> iptable: I said that I change permanently... how should I change again permanently?
[12:53] <histo> iptable: and doesn't that have to do with the shell?
[12:53] <iptable> histo, some grep versions auto-discover regex and swiith to (-E) or egrep automatically. others don't (in which case they will take $ very personally).
[12:54] <iptable> histo, no, that's grep-specific
[12:54] <MarioMey> Or... what program does the keypad as a mouse?
[12:54] <David_> iptable, it worked!
[12:54] <iptable> histo, we use '' (single quotes), hence everything in the grep belongs to grep
[12:54] <David_> I forgot to specify my path
[12:54] <iptable> oh
[12:54] <iptable> David_, glad we could assist
[12:54] <David_> I added ~/ before the filename and that did the job
[12:54] <histo> iptable: try grep -G   $  it still works
[12:54] <David_> thanks thanks thanks
[12:55] <David_> :-)
[12:55] <iptable> David_, well yes, you have to specify an existing file
[12:55] <iptable> histo, on YOUR system it does, yes
[12:55] <iptable> histo, I'm being generic out of experience. anyways.
[12:55] <histo> iptable: That's what i'm asking on what system does it not?  I've never seen it
[12:55] <histo> just curious so I know
[12:56] <iptable> histo, on an LFS from 5 years ago. On ubuntu 8.04 it didn't and centos 4 it didn't. Also, on all BSD systems it doesn't.
[12:56] <histo> k
[12:56] <iptable> histo, hence I am being generic as I am used to people asking this on "whatever, it's meant to be ubuntu" and struggling. Best to be generic and never have a problem. Hence the scripts with grep normally container -P or -E
[12:57] <iptable> histo, although, anytyhing is broken on BSD, including the way tar thinks :P
[12:59] <david___1> ipnode, what command should I use to add the word "THE" as the first word of each line?
[12:59] <histo> david___1: ^
[13:00] <histo> david___1: to add or search?
[13:00] <david___1> to add
[13:00] <iptable> david___1, ok, now I see what you want
[13:00] <MarioMey> iptable: I found it in dconf, org.gnome.desktop.a11y.keyboard - mousekeys_enable
[13:00] <iptable> david___1, and the next question will be how to remove , THE form the end of the line
[13:00] <histo> david___1: sed -e 's/^/THE/g' somefile
[13:01] <MarioMey> But I don't know after rebooting...  Thanks for your time.
[13:01] <david___1> let me try that! ;-)
[13:01] <iptable> david___1, sed -e 's/^/THE /g' somefile (if you want the space after THE)
[13:02] <iptable> david___1, to remove ", THE", sed -e 's/, THE//g' somefile
[13:02] <histo> david___1: and if it works you can add -i to sed to do it inline
[13:03] <david___1> Perfect
[13:03] <david___1> It works
[13:03] <david___1> I'm getting really excited about command line!
[13:04] <histo> david___1: so if the output is what you like then sed -ie 's/^/THE /g' -e
[13:04] <histo> 's/, THE//g'
[13:04] <histo>  somefile
[13:04] <histo> stupid enter key   Sorry
[13:05] <histo> sed -ie 's/^/THE /g' -e 's/, THE//g' somefile
[13:05] <david___1> truly amazing!
[13:05] <david___1> Another raison to get studying comand line
[13:05] <david___1> Thanks a bunch!
[13:05] <histo> david___1: yeap save you a bunch of time hopefully
[13:06] <david___1> what does the sed program do, actually?
[13:06] <foufou> rse$hf!101
[13:06] <david___1> ok, I'm reading man sed now! ;-)
[13:07] <iptable> david___1, to do everything you want to in one command (for lines that end with , THE, remove , THE and put THE at the front), run this: cat a |sed -e 's/\(.*\), THE/THE \1/g'
[13:07] <iptable> david___1, cat somefile |sed -e 's/\(.*\), THE/THE \1/g'
[13:07] <iptable> david___1, that will do all your stuff in one command
[13:08] <chillibite> i'm trying to use modem-manager-gui to manage my usb mobile modem that takes a cell phone sim card, it says "no devices found in system" though the modem works fine by just inserting it into a usb slot
[13:08] <iptable> david___1, in short, find everything that has , THE at the end, memorise that everything except for the , THE and replace with what you memorised + THE at the front ;)
[13:08] <david___1> iptable, I'm afraid that is a bit to complicated for me to comprehend at this moment, But I'm copying the function and hopefully Later I'll be able to understand it :-)
[13:08] <iptable> david___1, will work on your file even if some lines don't container the word ", THE" at the end ;)
[13:08] <chillibite> i need to use modem-manager-gui for SMS messages, to load data bundles, and to check my balance
[13:09] <chillibite> for some reason my modem is showing up as an ethernet connection, not a usb mobile modem
[13:09] <iptable> david___1, i.e. the whole procedure start to end, no need to grep, sed and sed again ;)
[13:09] <chillibite> in the gui network manager
[13:10] <chillibite> the software i'm trying to use is explained here "http://askubuntu.com/questions/380650/in-ubuntu-is-there-an-application-like-huawei-mobile-partner-for-broadband-co"
[13:10] <chillibite> though it isn't working properly for me
[13:10] <chillibite> not working at all actually
[13:10] <david___1> thank you
[13:10] <david___1> iptable!
[13:10] <david___1> I wish I could come over and shouldertap you! ;-)
[13:11] <david___1> I'm leaving now to do some selfstudy!! :-)
[13:11] <iptable> david___1, uhm, no thanks. I only allow women to come over and touch me :P
[13:11] <chillibite> why would a 'mobile broadband' connection show up as a wired ethernet connection?
[13:11] <iptable> because you have wired your mobile to the PC
[13:11] <chillibite> iptable: but it isn't ethernet
[13:11]  * Omnipotent wonders if its worth upgrading to 14.04 from 12.04
[13:12] <iptable> maybe your phone is presenting itself as a wired connection
[13:12] <iptable> Omnipotent, yes, if you are using KVM, LXC or want latest kernels and goodies, definitely
[13:12] <chillibite> iptable: it isnt a phone, it's a usb modem that takes a phone sim card
[13:12] <Omnipotent> Wait there is an actual dude called iptable
[13:12] <Omnipotent> :D
[13:12] <iptable> Omnipotent, lol, yes. software is iptables though, so that's different :D
[13:13]  * Omnipotent hands "s" to iptable 
[13:13] <iptable> chillibite, so your usb modem is presenting itself as a wired ethernet connection? have you tried other online methods that don't involve network manager to pinpoint the issue?
[13:13] <Omnipotent> There you go.
[13:13]  * iptable is now known as siptable
[13:13] <iptable> siptable
[13:13] <iptable> I like that! Go PBX!
[13:14] <chillibite> iptable: yes
[13:14] <chillibite> tried every other piece of software available
[13:14] <iptable> chillibite, and it's all showing as ethernet connection? in that case, your USB modem might be compatibly-with-windows-only-you-need-our-special-windows-shit-software
[13:15] <chillibite> iptable: yes well seems like thats it becuase it works fine under windows, works fine under ubuntu as well, i just cant use it to load data and send text messages
[13:16] <iptable> chillibite, well, then that would be the case. it's a limitation of the modem.
[13:16] <chillibite> i guess then i need to plug it into my wifes windows box to load airtime, bundles or send messages etc. FUCK
[13:16] <iptable> chillibite, or get a modem that works with linux. alternatively reverse engineer this one.
[13:17] <chillibite> iptable: i'm in a remote mining town in rural zimbabwe, not sure how soon i can replace this modem
[13:17] <chillibite> though i am getting a VSAT connection soon so....
[13:18] <iptable> ugh, well, you could install and use windows on vritualbox with usb passthru when you want to send messages
[13:18] <chillibite> iptable: plus this modem does work with gnu/linux just not for USSD codes and text messages
[13:19] <IdleOne> iptable, chillibite: please lets stick to support and avoid bad language and/or off topic comments. Thank you :)
[13:20] <mhare> Is there a way to check support lifetime for a given package selection?  Not for an individual package but for every package put together?
[13:21] <iptable> IdleOne, offtopic?
[13:22] <iptable> mhare, packages in main are supported as long as the ubuntu version is.
[13:26] <DanielaDav> iptable: I'm Mario Mey
[13:26] <DanielaDav> Something really strange happened in my computer
[13:26] <DanielaDav> (now, I'm on my girlfriend's)
[13:26] <DanielaDav> Suddenly... there's no keyboard input.
[13:26] <chillibite> IdleOne: bad language, sorry, but nothing was off topic, my location was absolutely on topic
[13:27] <DanielaDav> The keyboard doesn't work... THE ONBOARD KEYBOARD NEITHER
[13:27] <DanielaDav> So, I can't write ANYTHING on my computer.
[13:27] <DanielaDav> But, If I close the session, I can write the password.
[13:27] <IdleOne> iptable, chillibite: I did say and/or
[13:27] <IdleOne> :)
[13:28] <chillibite> Yes sir!
[13:28] <iptable> IdleOne, oh. that would not be to me ;)
[13:28] <DanielaDav> iptable: So, there's no keys input... not from keyboard, not from onboard-keyboard.
[13:28] <niko1990> Hello everyone
[13:28] <iptable> DanielaDav, if you reboot?
[13:29] <DanielaDav> iptable: Twice.
[13:29] <jackw411> is there anybody about thats pretty savvy with upstart?
[13:29] <iptable> DanielaDav, turn off, press all keys one after another, turn on. let's see if it's not sticky keys first
[13:29] <DanielaDav> iptable: If I close session, I CAN write the password. It is a configuration stuff.
[13:30] <DanielaDav> iptable: as INVITED, the keyboard DOES WORK.
[13:31] <iptable> DanielaDav, can you create new user and see if problem is solved for another user account?
[13:31] <DanielaDav> Uh... I don't know if I can create a user OUTSIDE administrator session...
[13:31] <iptable> DanielaDav, I would still like to know if it's not some sticky key that after password prompt makes it not work. super key and a few other modifiers can have this effect.
[13:31] <niko1990> is it possible to link a shell-Script into a folder so that i can run the script no matter in what folder i am? For example like "vncserver". I can type in ssh in every folder "vncserver" and it starts a vncserver. Is it possible to get that to work for my own shell script too, so that i don't have to navigate to the folder where it is storred all the time?
[13:31] <iptable> DanielaDav, also, CTRL+ALT+F1 will take you to the shell. everything works there before login? how about after login?
[13:33] <DanielaDav> iptable: No. CTRL-ALT-Fone doesn't work, and the ONBOARD KEYBOARD DOESN'T WORK.
[13:33] <DanielaDav> So... the problem isn't on key keyboard... but in the keys input.
[13:33] <histo> dean: sudo useradd -m -G users test
[13:33] <iptable> DanielaDav, CTRL+ALT+F1 to F8 are not connected to your keymap in your session per se.
[13:34] <DanielaDav> Well... no, they don't work in this session.
[13:34] <iptable> DanielaDav, and please stop using caps. it's shouting and considered rude ;)
[13:34] <DanielaDav> Sorry.
[13:34] <iptable> DanielaDav, and when you are logged out of the session, can you get to comand prompt using CTRL_ALT_F1 or F2 and login there?
[13:35] <DanielaDav> Teach me how to log in from that terminal (I enter there)
[13:35] <iptable> Does it say: username ?
[13:35] <DanielaDav> Sorry, I didn't understand you.
[13:35] <iptable> no wait, it says "login" i nthat terminal
[13:35] <DanielaDav> Yes, I entered with username and pass.
[13:35] <iptable> and did it log you in?
[13:35] <DanielaDav> I can use the keyboard there.
[13:35] <DanielaDav> Yes.
[13:36] <iptable> useradd -m -G users test
[13:36] <iptable> did that ask you to create a password btw? if not: run: passwd test
[13:36] <DanielaDav> Yes.
[13:37] <iptable> Ok, so you got password and user. now CTRL+ALT+F7 to come back to GUI and login as user test wit hthe password
[13:37] <DanielaDav> iptable: I did it with sudo and it ask me for entering a password for UNIX.
[13:37] <DanielaDav> Is it ok?
[13:37] <iptable> DanielaDav, choose a password
[13:37] <iptable> DanielaDav, wait
[13:38] <DanielaDav> Done
[13:38] <DanielaDav> Ups.
[13:38] <arseus__> Hello! Happy to say I've just migrated from Windows to Ubuntu. Can anyone recommend an intro to Linux or intro to Ubuntu resource?
[13:38] <iptable> DanielaDav, wait, did useradd ask you for password?
[13:38] <DanielaDav> No
[13:38] <histo> arseus__: which part of linux?
[13:38] <histo> iptable: it doesn't ask
[13:38] <iptable> DanielaDav, right, then do this:
[13:38] <iptable> histo, it's adduser that asks, damn. I always get those mixed up
[13:38] <iptable> DanielaDav, sudo passwd test
[13:38] <arseus__> General use of it I suppose.
[13:39] <DanielaDav> Yes, I did it.ç
[13:39] <iptable> DanielaDav, and THEN set a new password for user test doing that command
[13:39] <iptable> ok
[13:39] <DanielaDav> Done.
[13:39] <DanielaDav> Should I enter with that user?
[13:39] <iptable> CTRL+ALT+F7, login to GUI as user test with the chosen password
[13:39] <iptable> keybaord works?
[13:39] <histo> Isn't adduser a debian/ubuntu thing?
[13:39] <DanielaDav> Yes.
[13:39] <iptable> histo, I believe so, although this is ubuntu channel and it is on ubuntu.
[13:39] <DanielaDav> As "invited" too.
[13:40] <iptable> DanielaDav, invited?
[13:40] <DanielaDav> Sorry, as "invited" user and this "test" user, in both, the keyboard works.ç
[13:40] <__infinity> hey
[13:40] <iptable> DanielaDav, so it works for all users apart from one user on that machine? It looks like yor profile has something broken
[13:41] <iptable> DanielaDav, so the question is: "what have I done and where to make my profile in /home so broken that keybaord doesn't respond in the GUI for my user, while it works everywhere else"
[13:41] <__infinity> i have problem with ffmpeg, i am googling for a hour now, but cant figure it out http://pastebin.com/EWaUvNrb
[13:41] <iptable> DanielaDav, and that's the quesion you need to ask as my expertiese ends here.
[13:41] <DanielaDav> dconf?
[13:41] <DanielaDav> dconf is by user... isn't it?
[13:41] <histo> arseus__: http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/show/h2l/ http://hak5.org/category/episodes/haktip http://www.makeuseof.com/answers/start-learn-ubuntu/
[13:42] <DanielaDav> But I didn't change something terrible.... only mousekeys_enable...
[13:42] <DanielaDav> And changed again, but it didn't work.
[13:42] <Munster> Hi
[13:42] <histo> DanielaDav: did you maybe bump something else
[13:42] <histo> Munster: hi
[13:42] <arseus__> Thanks histo!
[13:43] <arunpyasi>  guys. what will happen if ltp will be available with the distro by default
[13:43] <iptable> histo, from previous chat, I can also say he did have and play with xkbset for a while (although now presumably uninstalled)
[13:43] <Munster> hi histo
[13:44] <histo> arseus__: there is also 'man intro'  and 'man hier'   you may find valuable. Just type those in a terminal
[13:44]  * iptable goes for a break
[13:44] <histo> iptable: lovely
[13:44] <Tii> mark06, oh sorry, I've overread your message
[13:45] <histo> DanielaDav: start moving config files out of ~ if you don't want to fix them.
[13:45] <[[thufir]]> how do I create a bootable USB stick?  I'm getting:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/127256/failed-to-install-bootloader  and no solution found.  Now, it did copy over most all of the files, but not the bootloader....
[13:45] <Tii> mark06, in my ld.so.conf was one line "/usr/local/lib/*" (without quotes)
[13:45] <DanielaDav> iptable, histo... I try to install using sudo apt and it tells me that this user is not in sudoers list.
[13:45] <histo> [[thufir]]: bootable usb stick of what?
[13:45] <DanielaDav> How do I put it into the list?
[13:45] <Tii> mark06, That obviously had the effect, that all those *.a files were included
[13:45] <[[thufir]]> histo: ubuntu
[13:45] <iptable> DanielaDav, CTRL+ALT+F1, login as the user that can sudo and do it there
[13:45] <Tii> mark06, I just deleted that line and everything worked fine...
[13:45] <histo> [[thufir]]: create it from which operating system?
[13:46] <[[thufir]]> histo: I'm in Ubuntu now.  ubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso
[13:46] <histo> [[thufir]]: just use dd
[13:46] <DanielaDav> iptable: I remove xbindkeys_automatic from initial programs... does is something...?
[13:47] <histo> [[thufir]]: dd if=/path/to/iso/file.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=1M
[13:47] <[[thufir]]> heh, I don't know how to use dd.  I tried startup disk creator and unetbootin
[13:47] <DanielaDav> (I just remembered that
[13:47] <[[thufir]]> histo: thx.
[13:47] <histo> [[thufir]]: first find the block device for your thumb drive lsblk  will show you and replace /dev/sdX with the proper name e.g. sdb sdc etc...
[13:47] <iptable> DanielaDav, please try to put back as it should be or configure a new user
[13:47]  * iptable really goes for break now
[13:48] <arunpyasi> hello guys  what will happen if tlp will be available with the distro by default
[13:48] <histo> [[thufir]]: be careful because dd doesn't ask are you sure and will jsut overwrite anything once started
[13:48] <[[thufir]]> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7669146/   can you confirm usb     /dev/sdb1 ?
[13:48] <ysadt> ciao
[13:48] <ysadt> !list
[13:48] <ysadt> !bot
[13:48] <histo> DanielaDav: add which user to sudo?
[13:49] <Munster> ysadt, this is NOT afile sharing channel, go elsewhere
[13:49] <subz3r0> [[thufir]]: looks like a usb stick. but you can find it easily out with dmesg. disconnect the stick and reconnect it again. then use dmesg in a terminal
[13:49] <[[thufir]]> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7669156/  for lsblk  I just want to make sure I have correct.
[13:49] <[[thufir]]> subz3r0: thx.
[13:50] <subz3r0> [[thufir]]: last entry should be the usb stick. but you can pastebin it to let us see the log
[13:50] <histo> [[thufir]]: usb is /dev/sdb
[13:50] <root> dd
[13:50] <root> dd
[13:50] <__infinity> i have problem with ffmpeg, i am googling for a hour now, but cant figure it out http://pastebin.com/EWaUvNrb
[13:50] <Guest70237> asdf
[13:50] <histo> [[thufir]]: first partitions on it is sdb1   .. you point dd at sdb.. all data on teh thumb drive will be gone
[13:51] <sprung> Hi. I have a very annoying problem that I probably broke when trying to get my TorGuard VPN working. I have a OpenConnect VPN for work, and now my various TorGuard VPN's. The problem, ladies and gentlemen, is when I switch to or from VPN, my DNS settings do not change. I have no choice but to workaround by manually editing /etc/resolv.conf  and if I don't set chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf the dns settings are REVERTED back to my default wired network, over
[13:51] <sprung> writing my vpn dns server ip's
[13:51] <histo> Guest70237: don't use root
[13:51] <[[thufir]]> ahhhh, thank you so much guys
[13:51] <histo> !root | Guest70237
[13:51] <subz3r0> --> sudo dd if=path.to.iso.file of=/dev/sdb bs=1MB
[13:51] <subz3r0> you also may want to check with gparted later if it got the bootflag, if not, set it with gparted
[13:52] <histo> subz3r0: boot flag shouldn't matter
[13:52] <histo> subz3r0: it's writing an iso filesystem to the thumb drive.
[13:52] <[[thufir]]> subz3r0: thx, bootflag, I forgot about that.  I'm dd'ing now, and, since pc hasn't crashed, hopefully have it correct.  LOL, in major hurry.
[13:52] <subz3r0> histo: 100% sure?
[13:52] <histo> [[thufir]]: you don't need the bootflag
[13:53] <histo> subz3r0: yes i'm sure.  There isn't even a partition after he's done
[13:53] <[[thufir]]> ok
[13:53] <DanielaDav> iptable, histo... I found it. It was slowkeys-enable... was enable. I disabled it and the keyboard and onboard-keyboard works.
[13:53] <DanielaDav> What is that option for, so?
[13:53] <mark06> Tii: OMG!!!!
[13:53] <histo> DanielaDav: K now delete your test users
[13:54] <Tii> mark06, I thought so too ^^
[13:54] <histo> DanielaDav: sudo userdel -r username
[13:54] <Tii> mark06, But happily everything is fine now! And again: Thank you so much for your help!
[13:54] <Munster> sprung, set your nameservers in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base , since it now overwrites /etc/resolv.conf
[13:54] <mark06> Tii: if I had a blog, I could post something like "How many HOURS a damn quote can take off from you"
[13:55] <histo> sprung: you don't set dns settings in resolv.conf
[13:55] <hoa> hi
[13:55] <histo> sprung: set them under your connection
[13:55] <sprung> histo, it's a workaround
[13:55] <Tii> mark06, You can write it and I publish it in my blog :D Then I don't have to write it ;)
[13:55] <sprung> histo, that *does not work, and is the problem*
[13:55] <[[thufir]]> what's the approximate eta for copying desktop to USB?  ten min?  five?
[13:55] <sprung> histo, i can put my dns ip's in mt network connection settings, but they never apply
[13:56] <sprung> *my network
[13:56] <histo> [[thufir]]: 5 maybe.
[13:56] <mark06> Tii: this is all fault of these tools which aren't resistant to a simple missing quote from a config file...
[13:56] <histo> [[thufir]]: there is no output with dd but it's going
[13:56] <sprung> Munster, i like your idea but that doesn't fix my needing to switch between work, torguard and my regular wired network
[13:56] <hoa> hi every one
[13:56] <histo> sprung: restart the connection after adding them.
[13:57] <sprung> histo, doesn't work
[13:57] <mark06> Tii: did you find the solution yourself?
[13:57] <sprung> i think my dnsmasq settings are messed up
[13:57] <histo> sprung: what happens then?
[13:57] <sprung> histo, it disconnects, reconnects and uses my default wired network settings not vpn settings
[13:57] <histo> sprung: doesn't work, doesn't do much to epxlain the issue
[13:58] <histo> sprung: you have your connections all messed up.
[13:58] <sprung> histo, okay, I type my dns ip's into the VPN settings in Network Manager, and no matter what i do or how many times i disconnect, reconnect, restart my computer, restart nm-applet, restart NetworkManager, etc, my dns settings for my vpn that i put in NetworkManager do not ever apply
[13:58] <sprung> histo, really?
[13:58] <sprung> i didn't know that!
[13:59] <Tii> You showed me that line, and I asked for an explanation for that awk stuff in #awk, simultaneously I saw "< /etc/ld.so.conf" and wondered what there would be in.... So I opened it up, and saw two lines
[13:59] <Tii> include /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf
[13:59] <Tii> and include /usr/local/lib/*
[13:59] <Tii> and since the last line is exactly the directory in which all thos crazy .a files lie
[13:59] <sprung> upon an earlier suggestion in this channel a few days ago i discovered dnsmasq was not installed anymore, that i had somehow accidentally removed it. it is reinstalled now but i bet it is not set up right
[14:00] <sprung> perhaps it's not configured to work with dbus? i don't know enough about dnsmasq to verify
[14:00] <Tii> It was kind of oviously then...
[14:00] <histo> sprung: is dnsmasq a default package
[14:00] <sprung> histo, yes, it is
[14:00] <Tii> mark06, so without your research i would not have found this! Thank you for that ^^
[14:00] <sprung> but reinstalling it doesn't bring back whatever default settings there were for it
[14:01] <Tii> mark06, and with research I mean that search in the configure script
[14:02] <histo> sprung: or you have some other program interfering
[14:03] <histo> !info dnsmasq
[14:03] <sprung> i'm seeing forums with some other people complaining about my same issue no fixes though
[14:04] <histo> sprung: maybe see if networkmanager has any specific support
[14:05] <mark06> Tii: you quoted out those two lines? I don't know that file but I'd assume they're not supposed to be quoted, my ld.so.conf has just "include /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf" (unquoted)
[14:07] <sprung> Oh. That's interesting. in the /etc/dnsmasq.conf everything is commented out
[14:07] <Tii> mark06, Sorry, Server reboot ;) | I see we misunderstood each other... No quotes were in there.. The problem was the wildcard...
[14:07] <Munster> sprung, afaik NM doesn't use IPs to connect to vpn servers, only usernames and pwds are required to connect to vpn servers ...that's my experience
[14:07] <Tii> mark06, /usr/local/lib/* (that includes every .a file) I think it should be (like in the first line) /usr/local/lib/*.conf but I deleted the line and it worked already....
[14:08] <sprung> Munster, right, but afterwards it's supposed to handle updating your DNS servers to whatever you set it to in your vpn config in NM
[14:08] <Tii> mark06, I've deleted it, because I think it doesn't belong there anyway
[14:08] <sprung> Munster, and that is the problem
[14:09] <sprung> Munster, my work VPN has private dns servers, you see. i can't just use 8.8.8.8 for everything
[14:09] <Munster> most vpns don't care what dns server you use, sprung
[14:09] <mark06> Tii: ah now I get it... it should include conf files only, not *whatever* files, specially on a common location such as /usr/local/lib... I think that was a catastrophic edit to that file... I wonder who/what did... cause mine doesn't have that line of yours
[14:10] <sprung> Munster, This one does, we have private servers that i connect to behind the DMZ
[14:10] <Tii> mark06, yeah, I don't know where that came from either... but anyways.. ^^
[14:10] <sprung> so i need the dns servers to update, which is a feature that is supposed to, and used to, work on my machine
[14:11] <Munster> ok  sprung then I'm on thin ice regarding the private work type vpns. I'll back off :)
[14:11] <mark06> Tii: yeah anyways... problem fixed... glad to have helped you out :)
[14:11] <Tii> mark06, :)
[14:12] <sprung> Munster, ok. just to educate you a little, when you connect to a network, if you have DNS servers (and search domains) set for that network manually in NetworkManager, which I do, NetworkManager is supposed to update those settings for you for your resolv.conf and that is what is not happening as it is supposed to.
[14:16] <Munster> sprung, sounds like a setting is needed in NM config that auto-updates the dns settings
[14:18] <gregor3005> hi, i discovered my disk to search why my disk is getting full. i found some files under /var/tmp called sort* eg: sort43DxtM, sortMbv316, ... how can i find out who creates this files, the folder has currenty arround 16gb
[14:19] <alive4ever> Is it a multi user system?
[14:19] <alive4ever> You may find the owner by issuing 'ls -l' command
[14:19] <gregor3005> alive4ever: i have some testusers but i use it only for myself
[14:19] <histo> gregor3005: if the files are open you can lsof searchterm
[14:19] <histo> *
[14:19] <gregor3005> alive4ever: they are owned by root
[14:20] <gregor3005> histo: this was also my first idea but the aren't open currently
[14:20] <alive4ever> just remove the files if you don't need them.
[14:21] <histo> gregor3005: who owns them?
[14:21] <gregor3005> alive4ever: thats only the half solution because any process create these files, the last file was created today at 6:01
[14:21] <gregor3005> histo: root
[14:21] <alive4ever> If you are bothered with tmp folder getting bigger and bigger, you may safely create an entry to mount tmp as tmpfs filesystem - which is reased during system shutdown.
[14:21] <histo> gregor3005: they are in tmp so if you reboot they will be gon
[14:22] <gregor3005> histo: at this time the nightly backup is running from another server which gets the files via ssh
[14:22] <histo> gregor3005: why are you backing up tmp
[14:22] <gregor3005> histo: no i don't backup up the tmp folder, it was a sidenote
[14:23] <gregor3005> histo: i checked the other workstations and server, i don't have these files anywhere there so i can exclude that the backup creates the files
[14:24] <histo> gregor3005: are they binary files?
[14:25] <gregor3005> histo: "file" told me that these are "data" files but i can open it with vim. i see many wired filepath, hm it look like a problem with the backup software
[14:25] <zetheroo1> does anyone know of a bootable tool which allows you to select which partition to boot the PC from?
[14:26] <gregor3005> histo: i run the backup manually and check if files are created
[14:26] <histo> gregor3005: what 'backup' software are you using?
[14:27] <gregor3005> histo: backuppc
[14:27] <histo> zetheroo1: grub
[14:27] <zetheroo1> histo: not sure what you mean ...
[14:28] <zetheroo1> I have a machine with a Windows recovery partition and I need something which shows me the available partitions and allows me to select which one to boot from ..
[14:28] <histo> zetheroo1: grub is a boot manager
[14:28] <histo> zetheroo1: you need an operating system installed on those partitions to boot to them.
[14:29] <zetheroo1> histo: the recovery partition contains it's own OS
[14:29] <histo> zetheroo1: is there a reason you aren't using the regular way to boot the recovery partition?
[14:30] <zetheroo1> histo: yes, because it doesn't work (F11)
[14:30] <zetheroo1> the partition is active and bootable
[14:30] <histo> zetheroo1: What make and model of computer?
[14:30] <zetheroo1> (as per 'Disks' in the Ubuntu live session)
[14:30] <histo> zetheroo1: and what does any of this have to do with ubuntu?
[14:31] <zetheroo1> HP Compaq desktop
[14:31] <zetheroo1> older gen
[14:31] <histo> zetheroo1: what model?
[14:31] <histo> zetheroo1: try F10
[14:32] <zetheroo1> histo: I was hoping there was some way to use Ubuntu to pick the partition to boot from
[14:32] <zetheroo1> F10 loads setup
[14:32] <histo> zetheroo1: What is your end goal?  install windows?
[14:32] <histo> zetheroo1: well without the model I can't lookup the hotkey.
[14:33] <zetheroo1> end goal is to restore to factory defaults from the recovery partition and then perform a dual boot with Ubuntu 14.04
[14:33] <zetheroo1> the hotkey is F11
[14:33] <zetheroo1> I already looked it up
[14:33] <histo> zetheroo1: well something is wrong if that key doesn't work then.
[14:33] <histo> zetheroo1: try in ##hardware
[14:34] <zetheroo1> ok, so there are no tools in the Ubuntu live session which I can use to select a partition to boot from ... and no nifty command to do this either ... ?
[14:35] <sprung> I figured it out i think
[14:36] <sprung> my /etc/resolv.conf is not a symbolic link to /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[14:36] <jhutchins> zetheroo1: On a properly configured dual-boot installation, grub will present a menu that will allow you to choose which OS to boot.
[14:36] <histo> zetheroo1: I can't think of a way.
[14:37] <histo> jhutchins: he wants to boot the recovery partition without usign the hotkey
[14:37] <histo> zetheroo1: you'd have to probably install grub and create an entry for the recovery partition then have it boot that.
[14:37] <jhutchins> histo: Grub should present all bootable systems.
[14:38] <histo> jhutchins: not on his windows machine
[14:38] <garywong> help
[14:38] <histo> zetheroo1: did you try setting that partition as bootable?
[14:38] <gas-sho> garywong please explain what help you would like
[14:39] <histo> zetheroo1: use gparted
[14:39] <sprung> ok, i'm going to test now. http://www.thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/docs/DBus-interface   <--- this doc helped, i did not have enable-dbus in my /etc/dnsmasq.conf and i additionally had /etc/resolv.conf as a file rather than a symbolic link to /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[14:39] <sprung> dropping off to test
[14:40] <Sasha> Hai I have a problem with an SD card
[14:40] <Sasha> It's not recognised by my mac and it is unable to format on my android phone
[14:41] <Sasha> On Ubuntu gparted just says 'searching /dev/mmcblk0 partitions' and stays like that for a long time
[14:41] <Sasha> I tried fsck now and it's stuck - nothing is happening
[14:41] <Sasha> any ideas?
[14:42] <histo> Sasha: what file system is it that you are running fsck on?
[14:42] <Sasha> fat32
[14:42] <histo> Sasha: that's not going to work
[14:43] <Sasha> oups
[14:43] <histo> Sasha: partition it and then format it
[14:43] <Sasha> I can't see it in gparted
[14:44] <Sasha> it's stuck on that searching thing
[14:44] <histo> Sasha: sudo cfdisk /dev/mmcblk0
[14:44] <sprung> For the record, that DID fix my problem. I needed enable-dbus in my /etc/dnsmasq.conf and my /etc/resolv.conf was supposed to be a symbolic link
[14:44] <sprung> yay this is a problem that had been giving me a headache for weeks
[14:44] <garywong> 1
[14:45] <Sasha> histo ok so I create new partition from free space?
[14:45] <Sasha> the problem is that the disk is 64gb and I only see it as 6134mb
[14:46] <jhutchins> I installed sshd on 14.04 and it automatically started and is enabled for startup, but it doesn't appear in the Services menu.  How do I manage whether it starts on boot?
[14:46] <histo> Sasha: do you see another partitoin taking up the other 58GB
[14:47] <histo> jhutchins: with upstart
[14:47] <Sasha> There's just a line that says Pro/log for the part type column
[14:47] <Sasha> and a 'free space' for the FS type column
[14:48] <histo> Sasha: sudo fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0    pasbing that
[14:48] <histo> pastebin that
[14:49] <Sasha> -I ? as in capital i? gives me invalid option
[14:49] <histo> Sasha: L as in lower case l
[14:49] <Sasha> ah sorry
[14:49] <histo> Sasha: I!=l
[14:50] <Sasha> ok and how long as it supposed to take? it's been running for a bit now and no output
[14:51] <emilia_liz> http://tuchat.wirez.com.ar/
[14:52] <Sasha> looks like it's stuck histo
[14:52] <histo> Sasha: is your card bad?
[14:52] <Sasha> Would that be a possibility?
[14:53] <histo> Sasha: yeah stuff breaks
[14:53] <Sasha> well that sucks
[14:53] <Sasha> basically my phone just said 'SD card not recognised' or something all of a sudden
[14:53] <histo> jhutchins: sudo update-rc.d ssh disable
[14:53] <Sasha> so there's nothing I can do myself? it's corrupt ?
[14:55] <histo> jhutchins: or remove instead of disable
[14:55] <gdoteof> how do i change my dns servers in ubuntu (from the terminal)  /etc/resolv.conf says DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
[14:55] <histo> jhutchins: yeah it's remove
[14:55] <histo> gdoteof: what are you using to connect to the network?
[14:55] <gdoteof> 14.04
[14:56] <gdoteof> histo: wifi and/or ethernet
[14:56] <histo> gdoteof: what are you using to manage that connection (sorry)
[14:57] <histo> !resolvconf | gdoteof
[14:59] <gdoteof> histo: eh; i actually do it in a somewhat ghetto way.  for all my effort i could never reliably connect to wpa networks from the command line.  i use xmonad as my window manager.. so when i need to connect to a new wifi i log into gnome, use the little network widget to conenct and log back into xmonad which will then automagically connect to the network
[15:00] <gdoteof> histo: fwiw the 2nd link in that bot response is 404
[15:01] <histo> gdoteof: basically set dns in network manager
[15:01] <histo> gdoteof: why don't you run the nm-applet in xmonad so you don't have to switch to gnome?
[15:01] <abdeljalil> hey, i'm on Lubuntu
[15:01] <histo> abdeljalil: good for you
[15:01] <abdeljalil> very new to this one
[15:02] <abdeljalil> histo,  thanks
[15:02] <abdeljalil> how can i install skype ..??
[15:02] <Billian> sudo apt-get install Skype?
[15:02] <gdoteof> histo: i have tried that but it doesn't work.  i would love to not have to make that switch
[15:02] <abdeljalil> didn't work
[15:02] <gdoteof> histo: running nm-applet tells me ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area
[15:02] <gdoteof> ** Message: using fallback from indicator to GtkStatusIcon
[15:02] <histo> !skype | abdeljalil
[15:03] <martinrame> Hi, I'm using ununtu 12.04 and one program I'm trying to compile needs "aclocal-1.13", but I have 1.9, 1.10 and 1.11, how can I install 1.13?
[15:03] <abdeljalil> histo,  Skype released a new version yesterday or two days ago if i remember
[15:04] <abdeljalil> tried to download this one, but with lubuntu i can't get to make it work
[15:04] <sprung> gdoteof> how do i change my dns servers in ubuntu (from the terminal)  /etc/resolv.conf says DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE   <--- /etc/resolv.conf in ubuntu should NOT be a file, it should be a symbolic link to /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf so dnsmasq can work with it
[15:04] <histo> gdoteof: put nm-applet in your xmonad.hs after trayer
[15:04] <histo> martinrame: what program are you trying to install?
[15:05] <martinrame> histo: http://www.lunar-linux.org/mutt-sidebar/
[15:05] <histo> abdeljalil: follow the directions from ubottu
[15:05] <gdoteof> lol this trayer thing is interesting
[15:05] <histo> !info mutt
[15:06] <histo> martinrame: downlod the patch for 1.5.21 if you are using trusty
[15:06] <gdoteof> i have not usit screws up my layout pretty bad, but totally works to get nm-applet up
[15:06] <martinrame> histo: no, I have 1.5.21, I want to upgrade to 1.5.23, but it requires aclocal-1.13 to compile.
[15:07] <martinrame> histo: I just need to know how to upgrade aclocal to 1.13.
[15:07] <gdoteof> histo: thanks!  totally an improvement
[15:07] <histo> martinrame: okay you sent me a link to mutt sidebar patch not 1.5.23
[15:08] <histo> martinrame: you'd have to install all your dependencies or find a ppa
[15:08] <martinrame> histo: ok.
[15:08] <gregor3005> histo: backuppc don't caused the problem. i runs now for a while an i have no new files in the /var/tmp folder
[15:09] <histo> gregor3005: what's in the files may provide some clues
[15:09] <martinrame> Does anyone know how to upgrade aclocal to 1.13 on Ubuntu 12.04?
[15:09] <histo> martinrame: download the source and upgrade or find a ppa with the software you want.
[15:09] <martinrame> histo: any link to the ppa or source?
[15:09] <gregor3005> histo: its only filepath around the whole systems
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> martinrame  if it's not in the repos, it's not supported here
[15:10] <gregor3005> histo: wired is that the first lines point the backuppc path
[15:11] <gregor3005> histo: i delete the files and check new ones, maybe i write a little script which runs lsof and log when some new files are created and in access
[15:11] <histo> martinrame: you'd probably have to use a search engine to find it.
[15:12]  * histo wonders why mutt is stuck on such an old version in ubuntu
[15:13] <histo> 4 year old version
[15:13] <histo> wow
[15:13] <martinrame> histo: nevermind, I edited the Makefiles and replaced 1.13 to 1.11 and it's compiling.
[15:13] <martinrame> quit
[15:13] <histo> lol good luck with that.
[15:16] <TuxRescue> could somebody please tell me how i can turn off that the chromium browser opens the web history in new tabs?
[15:16] <chillibite> i have a choice of buying this car tomorrow: http://www.classifieds.co.zw/category/661/Other/listings/718733/VW-Golf-2004.html
[15:16] <Derp> Bom dia pessoas
[15:16] <chillibite> or waiting two months and getting a 1998 mitsubishi pajero
[15:17] <bcvery> !ot | chillibite
[15:17] <DJones> chillibite: I think you want #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:17] <chillibite> wrong channel
[15:17] <chillibite> sorry
[15:17] <sprung> TuxRescue, are you trying to disable browsing history entirely for your... websites?
[15:17] <bcvery> !pt | Derp
[15:18] <topper4125> I have a raspberry pi that I want to turn into a Home Theater PC using XBMC. I tried Raspbmc, and really not impressed, and now I'm thinking of trying to install a minimal Ubuntu (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD), the smallest/lightest desktop I can find, and the "Full" XMBC... does anyone know if this is 'do-able' on the Raspberry Pi?
[15:18] <Derp> caramba esse chat num funciona não ?
[15:18] <DJones> topper4125: Unless something has changed, I don't think Ubuntu will run on a rasberry pi
[15:18] <histo> topper4125: you can't
[15:19] <OerHeks> arm6, no, ubuntu needs arm7+
[15:19] <Deepfriedice> topper4125: Ubuntu needs a newer ARM version than the Pi has.
[15:19] <sprung> Derp, Ninguém nesta sala, incluindo eu mesmo, fala Português. Visite o # ubuntu-pt
[15:19] <topper4125> grr... k.. thanks for the replies.
[15:19] <TuxRescue> sprung: i need the browsing history. i just dont want it displayed in new tabs
[15:19] <histo> topper4125: debian
[15:19] <TuxRescue> in firefox you go to about:config and find "tab.url" and its done
[15:20] <sprung> TuxRescue, maybe you should ask in #chromium they would probably know
[15:21] <TuxRescue> they are all idle
[15:23] <Guest62078> Bom dia pessoas
[15:23] <c4i0> Bom dia
[15:23] <Guest71827> I'm using SSHFS to edit files on a remote server.  It seems like the connection drops sometime and I loose access to the virtual drive.  What can I do other than restart to get it connected again?  Running SSHFS again just hangs after this.
[15:24] <Guest62078> caraca foi um sacrificio  entrar nesse chat e encontrar pessoas que falam e português
[15:24] <sprung> Guest71827, what is preventing you from running it in Screen?
[15:24] <Pici> !pt | Guest62078
[15:24] <Guest71827> sprung, how do I do that?
[15:25] <sprung> Guest71827, sorry i read to quickly. I think you are going about this all wrong. Don't edit files remotely via SSHFS, use vim remotely, and run screen remotely so if you disconnect you can reconnect as if you were never interrupted
[15:26] <Guest62078> o_O ninguém tem assunto aqui né
[15:26] <sprung> Guest71827, screen will soon be your new best friend
[15:26] <Guest71827> sprung, yeah I'm slowly getting better at using vim.
[15:27] <sprung> Guest71827, or any text editor. point being, whatever you are doing, if you do it in "screen" if you get disconnected you can reconnect and reattach to the screen, uninterrupted. This is good for editing files and for processes that take a long time to complete.
[15:27] <ger> hi
[15:28] <Guest71827> sprung, oh I see.  kinda like tmux
[15:28] <c4i0> Hello for everyone
[15:29] <nerium> Is it possible to check the status of a process?
[15:29] <sprung> Guest71827, tmux is screen but better. i wanted to start you off simple. If you are using tmux remotely you have no reason to use sshfs or screen
[15:29] <nerium> I would like to see if it's frozen
[15:29] <sprung> nerium, ps aux | grep whatever
[15:29] <nerium> sprung: How would that help=?
[15:29] <ger> i installed ubuntu now on vmware workstation  (windows 8) and i dont see the the others partitions..how can i mount them?
[15:30] <Guest71827> sprung, no I just know of tmux.  I guess the conclusion is that I need to get use to vim
[15:30] <alive4ever> topper4125: it's better to use raspbian
[15:30] <sprung> nerium, you do. screen is simpler to use than tmux and is more likely to be installed or able to be installed on your remote server.
[15:30] <nerium> sprung: Wrong person
[15:31] <sprung> Guest71827,  there's a little tutorial http://www.tecmint.com/screen-command-examples-to-manage-linux-terminals/
[15:31] <sprung> nerium, my bad
[15:31] <sprung> Guest71827, or here http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_screen
[15:31] <alive4ever> Surely, tmux is a great terminal manager.
[15:32] <alive4ever> You may want to add byobu for a fancy tmux look.
[15:32] <sprung> alive4ever, indeed it is but it's less likely to be installed already and has more prerequisites, and is more complicated to use than screen
[15:32] <Guest71827> sprung, thanks I'll check it out and suck it up and use vim
[15:33] <david___1> hello everybody
[15:33] <sprung> Guest71827, screen or tmux if you want to get fancy is an absolutely indispensable sysadmin tool, otherwise close to 5pm i would have to stay late for a long-running process to finish. with screen or tmux i can pick up at home where i left off
[15:33] <ger> i installed ubuntu now on vmware workstation  (windows 8) and i dont see the the others partitions..how can i mount them?
[15:33] <david___1> question: What would be the command to create a new folder for each word in a file?
[15:34] <david___1> is that even possible using commandline?
[15:35] <alive4ever> Both screen and tmux are great. Screen is the first, so it uses ctrl+a keybinding. Tmux comes later, so it uses ctrl+b keybinding
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> david___1  i'm sure the people in #bash know best
[15:35] <david___1> ok thanks, I'll ask there! ;-)
[15:35] <Pici> alive4ever: theres a config that comes with tmux that allows you to use the screen keybindings.
[15:37] <ger> i installed ubuntu now on vmware workstation  (windows 8) and i dont see the the others partitions..how can i mount them?
[15:37] <halberd> I have done a full installation of ubuntu to a flash drive.  But now I've changed my mind and want to put it on the hard drive - dual booting with Windows.  Is it possible to do this without performing a fresh installation, perhaps by copying the ubuntu image from the flash drive to the hdd?
[15:38] <abdeljalil> hey how can i get my lx-3000 to work?
[15:38] <abdeljalil> on lubuntu, sorry again
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> ger  if you don't get an answer here, try #vmware
[15:39] <alive4ever> halberd: it's possible
[15:39] <halberd> great!  how do I do it, alive4ever ?
[15:40] <alive4ever> just prepare an ext4 partition, then boot you ubuntu live dvd
[15:40] <Deepfriedice> ger: What "others partition" are you looking for?
[15:40] <OerHeks> abdeljalil, install pavucontrol > http://askubuntu.com/questions/94881/how-do-i-use-microsoft-livechat-lx-3000 answer is for ubuntu, but should work for lubuntu too
[15:40] <Ziber> Has anyone who used uprecords-cgi noticed that sometimes the downtime portion is shown in negatives and the uptime percentage is over 100%? Is there a way to recent its data?
[15:41] <alive4ever> when it's finished booting, launch a terminal. Mount both the usb and the new partition
[15:42] <alive4ever> then copy the entire usb flashdisk content using tar command
[15:42] <halberd> alive4ever, but that would include the usb boot sector right?
[15:42] <halberd> and do I not want to do that?
[15:42] <luisja1006> It is possible to install MS Office 2010 using PlayOnLinux on (X)ubuntu 14.04?
[15:43] <garheade> luisja1006, yes it is.
[15:43] <alive4ever> halberd, nope. Just recreate the boot sector using grub-install /dev/sda and update-grub
[15:43] <mojtaba> Hi, I am running ubuntu 14.04 lts and I have installed virtualbox. Does anybody know how should I install additional guest? ultimately I want to give a try to Fedora in VB.
[15:43] <garheade> luisja1006, it's been a while since i've bothered but the PlayOnLinux walkthrough should be pretty straight forward.
[15:43] <halberd> I'm also concerned because that ubuntu on the flash drive is set up to mount the flash drive partitions in /etc/fstab as / and /home and swap
[15:44] <luisja1006> garheade downloaded the required files, but everytime I try to install the setup.exe using PlayOnLinux wine crashes
[15:44] <halberd> so I guess I would need to change /etc/fstab running off the flash drive, so that it mounts hard drive partitions in place of the flash drive ones, before I copy the ubuntu image?
[15:44] <garheade> luisja1006 is it giving you a specific error?
[15:44] <alive4ever> the command to copy the entire usb contents is 'sudo tar -cf - -C /path-to-usb-disk-mount | sudo tar -xvf - -C /path-to-new-partition-mount'
[15:45] <abdeljalil> hey
[15:45] <Beldar> luisja1006, I found even when installed word to just not be near the as when run in windows.
[15:45] <abdeljalil> anyone here to help please?
[15:45] <Beldar> same*
[15:45] <iceburnt> have you played a game in ubuntu? could you tell me about the simulator city games named?
[15:45] <trijntje> !als
[15:45] <halberd> yes but I'm saying I don't think the ubuntu image would work exactly as-is, because for one thing it's set up to mount flash drive partitions, not hard drive partitions
[15:46] <alive4ever> then update the grub by chrooting into new partition
 just ask the question and people will respond fi they know
[15:46] <luisja1006> garheade: Error in POL_Wine
[15:46] <luisja1006> Wine seems to have crashed. If your program is running, just ignore this message
[15:46] <OerHeks> abdeljalil, read back please, you have been answered
[15:46] <Beldar> abdeljalil, Did you see the answer from OerHeks?
[15:47] <halberd> alive4ever, is that tar command the equivalent of using dd?
[15:48] <alive4ever> no, it's not performing bit to bit operation. It just copied the file exactly with same permissions through the tar stream.
[15:48] <alive4ever> I think it's safer than dd copy.
[15:49] <garheade> luisja1006 are you running 32bit or 64bit office?
[15:49] <huydsert> Can I write without auth?
[15:49] <OerHeks> huydsert, we can read you
[15:49] <Ziber> any users of uprecords-cgi know how to clear its data, or fix it when it says things like: "down   0 days, -22:-19:-3"?
[15:50] <luisja1006> 64 bit
[15:50] <luisja1006> garheade
[15:50] <huydsert> awesome, mouse is acting weird in 14.04, don't know what to do
[15:50] <huydsert> Are there mouse drivers or something similar i could download?
[15:50] <sprung> first make sure your mouse isn't dirty
[15:50] <huydsert> It's working fine under windows 7
[15:50] <halberd> alive4ever, so I would then do that for each of the partitions on the flash drive right, and a corresponding partition on the hdd
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> huydsert: does the system have a make and model?>
[15:51] <sprung> huydsert, what mouse, and define "weird"
[15:51] <mojtaba> Hi, I am running ubuntu 14.04 lts and I have installed virtualbox. Does anybody know how should I install additional guest? ultimately I want to give a try to Fedora in VB.
[15:51] <garheade> luisja1006, POL/Wine doesnt support the 64bit version of office.
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> huydsert: isit a USB mouse or a touchpad?
[15:51] <halberd> and then I would update /etc/fstab before I boot into the hdd partition
[15:51] <luisja1006> garheade oh, okay.
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: use the menu at the top of the virtualbox wndow.
[15:51] <huydsert> it's a 5$ mouse I got from the sop, USB, and it seems like it doesn't give priorities to windows correctly
[15:51] <luisja1006> thanks !
[15:51] <garheade> luisja1006, anytime.
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> huydsert: have you tried a different USB port?
[15:51] <huydsert> when it's working, it seems to work in only 1 window, even if I alt tab into another one
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> huydsert: have you tried setting legacy mode in BIOS?
[15:52] <huydsert> yeah, I've tried all 3 different ports on the laptop, and tried the touchpad
[15:52] <huydsert> what's legacy mode in BIOS?
[15:52] <sprung> yeah your mouse is probably using usb version 1
[15:52] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: I did, but it seams it did not install it!
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> huydsert: its a setting, in the BIOS
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: I suggest you ask in #vbox
[15:53] <halberd> alive4ever, ok thanks, this makes sense I think, and if it doesn't work it doesn't seem like it could harm anything.  One more question:  is it safe to install grub over the windows bootloader on the hdd?
[15:53] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: I believe if you power off the VM, then set the guest additions to be mounted at boot, it will show more readily
[15:53] <huydsert> would legacy mode affect anything other than the mouse? is it "safe" to try it?
[15:54] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: ok, thx
[15:54] <alive4ever> halberd, just do it once to transfer your already-installed ubuntu to the new partition you intend to put ubuntu.
[15:54] <Hoihe> Ahoy! Does anyone know if it's possible to have two versions of the properitary NVidia drivers?
[15:54] <Hoihe> There are a few WINE based games that require an older one to run smoothly..
[15:54] <halberd> alive4ever, just do what once?
[15:54] <Hoihe> However, the OpenGL games available on Steam run better with the newest one
[15:55] <halberd> install GRUB?
[15:55] <alive4ever> halberd, copying the files via tar command.
[15:55] <iceburnt> have you played a game in ubuntu? could you tell me about the simulator city games named?
[15:55] <Nach0z> grublife4lyfe
[15:55] <halberd> oh, but I have three partitions on the flash drive so I'd need to copy all three
[15:56] <alive4ever> Do you make separate partitions for boot, root, and home?
[15:57] <halberd> yes I did alive4ever
[15:57] <halberd> well actually the partitions are for root, home, and swap
[15:58] <alive4ever> No need to do it for swap
[15:58] <halberd> I've heard it's more efficient to have a swap partition
[15:58] <Beldar> halberd, If you have a place to put the clone use clonezilla to copy the usb, it save the mbr.
[15:58] <Beldar> saves*
[15:58] <alive4ever> Yes, just make a new partition and initiate the paartition using mkswap command
[15:59] <halberd> that's the thing Beldar , there's an existing windows installation so I can't just do a straight copy from sdb to sda
[15:59] <huydsert> To boot in Legacy mode all I have to do is Disable the UEFI boot?
[15:59] <alive4ever> s/paartition/partition/p
[15:59] <Beldar> halberd, That is not a straight copy
[15:59] <xeon123> I have one partition that I want to mount as /opt in my ubuntu OS. I have already an /opt dir in the partition where the OS is. I want to point the /opt to the other partition. How I do this?
[15:59] <Beldar> halberd, from sdb to sda, but a clone
[16:00] <halberd> what's the difference?
[16:00] <alive4ever> xeon123: copy the entire content of /opt using tarthen add an entry that point to /opt in your fstab
[16:00] <Beldar> halberd, You have the clone on another hd or flash as packets for insertion to sda
[16:02] <Beldar> halberd, This is easy stuff in general you can just make a unallocated and copy and paste with gparted as well, you just have to load grub
[16:02] <halberd> alive4ever, instead of mkswap could I just do dd if=/dev/sdb3 of=/dev/sda6
[16:02] <halberd> if /dev/sdb3 is my swap partition and /dev/sda6 is the new swap partition
[16:02] <Beldar> halberd, I would not move swap, just make one later
[16:03] <alive4ever> halberd: that's a waste of time. Swap partition doesn't need to be exactly the same.
[16:03] <halberd> ok
[16:04] <Beldar> halberd, dd can really mess stuff up if ran wrong and you loose the original I would clone it or copy and paste with gparted, both leave the usb intact
[16:06] <Beldar> halberd, Good luck, did not mean to interrupt but this is easy stuff, and I have to go.
[16:06] <halberd> alright thanks alive4ever and Beldar
[16:06] <alive4ever> you're welcome.
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: dd can stand for 'data destroyer'
[16:07] <alive4ever> dd is actually diskdump, but it can be used as redirector.
[16:08] <abdeljalil> hsnopi,  OerHeks , Beldar, indeed thanks again OerHeks  !!
[16:08] <abdeljalil> it worked !
[16:08] <OerHeks> abdeljalil, have fun
[16:08] <abdeljalil> sorry i couldn't answer earlier, because i was into that thing
[16:08] <abdeljalil> OerHeks,  thanks !
[16:08] <alive4ever> instead of 'ls -l $HOME > listing.txt' you can use dd to redirect the output 'ls -l $HOME | dd of=~/listing.txt'
[16:17] <Baluse> why since kernel doesnt seem to be updated i got system restat is required ?
[16:18] <OerHeks> Baluse, some services-update need a reboot too
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> Baluse: to load the new kernel.....
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> Baluse: its not essential
[16:19] <Praxi> I scripted a very basic file copy on a server.  what happens if I fail to mount a directory, then copy files to that mount point?
[16:19] <Baluse> nice
[16:19] <Baluse> because some people say you never need to restart
[16:19] <Praxi> will it create that directory structure on the root or whatever I specified?
[16:20] <biledemon> Hi. any problems with factory overclocked graphics card on linux?
[16:22] <lord4163> biledemon: No
[16:23] <biledemon> lord4163: you sure? someone told me some time ago
[16:24] <lord4163> biledemon: Never had problems with that, what are you buying?
[16:26] <biledemon> lord4163: don't know yet. thinking of a GTX 770. But I'm still very much researching. Plus I don't really know much about this yet :)
[16:27] <jose__> por favor para hablar en español que debo hacer
[16:27] <OerHeks> !es
[16:28] <jose__> como llego a ese canal por favor
[16:29] <histo> Praxi: when the mountpoint comes up it will hide whatever underlying files were on the local drive
[16:29] <lord4163> biledemon: ye good card what will you be using it for?
[16:30] <lord4163> biledemon: AMD has better drivers AFAIK, at least the open source ones
[16:32] <biledemon> lord4163: gaming mostly. Nvidia proprietary are still the best though.
[16:33] <lord4163> biledemon: not for the 7/800
[16:33] <lord4163> series
[16:33] <lord4163> IIRC
[16:34] <bobRoss> hi. just finished installing ubuntu for the first time. former windows user
[16:34] <gqgunhed> bobRoss: welcome :-)
[16:35] <bobRoss> thank you
[16:35] <alive4ever> bobRoss: welcome to ubuntu community
[16:36] <biledemon> lord4163: take a look at some comparisons on phoronix.com if you don't believe me.
[16:36] <alive4ever> It's time to leave
[16:36] <bobRoss> so far so good. i do have a couple of questions
[16:36] <bobRoss> am i in the right place?
[16:37] <Praxi> ty histo
[16:37] <biledemon> bobo69: yes
[16:37] <biledemon> bobRoss: yes
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> biledemon: are you wanting a gaming PC?
[16:38] <biledemon> ActionParsnip: yeah, planning on getting one soon
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> biledemon: I'd shoot for Nvidia. They have been making Linux drivers for ages
[16:39] <bobRoss> cool. I have found the terminal emulator i want, love libreoffice (sp), browser check. what I am curious is antivirus, and firewall (keeping in mind I am a windows user n00b)
[16:39] <ikonia> I'd suggest not to try to build a gaming PC around Linux
[16:39] <ikonia> build a gaming PC for games on the native platform.
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: steam is gaining pace, rapidly
[16:40] <ikonia> I don't believe it is
[16:40] <Praxi> steam is yes, but the majority of the triple A titles, or most popular games are not
[16:40] <ikonia> it's pretty much non-existant
[16:40] <bobRoss> i have looked at a few sites and it seems linux firewalls are a little out of my skillset
[16:40] <ikonia> so building a gaming PC for the native platform of the game you want is more advisable then trying to build a gaming PC for linux then making games work in wrappers like wine
[16:41] <Praxi> have more games through steam on my mac than my linux box amazingly
[16:41] <gqgunhed> bobRoss: for firewall, get started with "man ufw". Or just "sudo ufw status" to check and "sudo ufw enable" to enable.
[16:41] <jose__> me rocordais por favor como puedo volver a hablar en español?
[16:41] <ikonia> !es | jose__
[16:41] <biledemon> bobRoss: or you could check out gufw if you want a GUI
[16:41] <jose__> gracias
[16:42] <gqgunhed> bobRoss: "man" are your onboard manuals. "man man" for more details. "man -k [keyword]" to search manpages for a given keyword.
[16:43] <bobRoss> thank you cool didnt know about man
[16:46] <biledemon> bobo69: anti-virus isn't needed on linux.
[16:47] <bobRoss> no antivirus really?
[16:47] <gqgunhed> bobRoss: this is why you will sometimes receive an RTFM (read the fine manual) instead of an answer ;-)
[16:47] <bobRoss> lol rtfm
[16:47] <ifellasleep> fine is a more delicate way to put it :P
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> !av
[16:48] <gqgunhed> ifellasleep: I know ;-)
[16:48] <SchrodingersScat> !info clamav | bobRoss, you can, but normally it's to protect others.  If you use trusted software sources then malicious software generally fades away.
[16:48] <ifellasleep> lol
[16:49] <gqgunhed> bobRoss: You can use "apt-cache search [keyword]" to search to package database for matching packages. E.g. "apt-cache search antivirus"
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> bobRoss: unless you are running a file server with windows clients, or a mail server, it's not needed
[16:50] <gqgunhed> bobRoss: "sudo apt-get install [packagename]" to install
[16:50]  * gqgunhed agrees to ActionParsnip
[16:51] <jose__> hola
[16:53] <jose__> por favor para hablar en español de nuevo
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> !es
[16:54] <jose__> join #ubuntu-es
[16:56] <biledemon> jose__: "/join #ubuntu-es"
[16:57] <bobRoss> ok so i am safe with no antivirus
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> bobRoss: yes
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> bobRoss: the user model protects the OS as long as you use the OS as user and not log in as root (this is disabled by default in Ubuntu)
[17:03] <bobRoss> wow. I didnt know that
[17:04] <gqgunhed> bobRoss: So malware (e.g. from browser) can only access/modify files that your user account has write-access to. For example.
[17:05] <bobRoss> that is nice. i dont do a lot of downloading etc other than installing software. I really love the app center in ubuntu so i havent looked outside of it for software
[17:06] <bobRoss> i think i have my browser locked down pretty well. firefox esr with adblock+, wot, torbutton, noscript etc
[17:06] <fernando_> hi
[17:07] <apostolis> hi.i am new
[17:08] <bobRoss> you guys have been a huge help
[17:08] <bobRoss> thanx for all the command line tips. ive got some rtfming to do
[17:09] <gqgunhed> You're welcome :-) If you're willing to learn you will find a whole new world so to speak.
[17:09] <fernando_> what do you?
[17:10] <gqgunhed> sorry, last answer was directed to bobRoss
[17:10] <phelix> Would anyone have an idea why when ever I do anything that makes my system work like type or move a window or a drop down or something of that nature it causes my sound to chop
[17:10] <bobRoss> the only thing im not sure i like yet is the ubuntu desktop. it feels very busy to me but im sure ill get used to it.
[17:11] <gluesniffmonkey> Why would a cd-r not appear on an apple imac slot opening DVD drive while it is fully visible to an external usb DVD drive?
[17:12] <gqgunhed> phelix: try "top" to see what process eats your CPU cycles. Or is your CPU idle and you have hickups?
[17:12] <bobRoss> that is not a slam on ubuntu I LOVE how freaking fast and so tiny it is after installing
[17:12] <bobRoss> more a slam on my old windows setup
[17:13] <phelix> gqgunhed: Well. I am running spotify through wine.. i wonder if that could be the cause? there isn't anything to high in cpu usage running
[17:13] <gqgunhed> gluesniffmonkey: Depends on the format used to write the data on the optical medium. Or your imac drive can't read dvd-r (MINUS R)?
[17:13] <plepzz> Does anyone know if a Samsung 830 SSD is considered reliable for server use?
[17:13] <gqgunhed> gluesniffmonkey: RockRidge extensions, Joliet, etc.
[17:13] <fernando_> any corrupt police?
[17:13] <gluesniffmonkey> gqgunhed, burned as iso for installation. It won't boot.
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> bobRoss: there are alternatives. You dont have to use Gnome + Compiz + Unity shell
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> bobRoss: XFCE is much simpler (and uses fewer resources)
[17:14]  * gqgunhed was slower than ActionParsnip in typing XFCE
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> gluesniffmonkey: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded? Did you burn as slowly as you could?
[17:15] <Ryan6578> Okay, I'm back.
[17:15] <gluesniffmonkey> ActionParsnip, I have another cd. I am going to try burning slowly.
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> gluesniffmonkey: check the ISO is ok first too
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> gluesniffmonkey: you can do this using MD5 testing
[17:15] <gqgunhed> phelix: maybe. Haven't tried that combination. Does sound choke when playing local sound files?
[17:15] <bobRoss> when I was researching I saw one ubuntu distro that had xfce as the default but ive already got this installed and all the software i need/want so i dont know if a reinstall of a different distro is worth the trouble
[17:16] <gluesniffmonkey> ActionParsnip, I have done an MD5sum
[17:16] <Ryan6578> I'm having a problem where when I load something from my flash drive (Ubuntu install, DBAN, etc), whenever I make a keystroke, it "disables" the keyboard. I'm not able to type, etc.
[17:16] <gqgunhed> bobRoss: You can install all different desktop environments parallel. Just look them up in the software center. Then choose from your login screen.
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> gluesniffmonkey: good
[17:16]  * bobRoss 
[17:16] <Ryan6578> And it freezes the Ubuntu install.
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> gluesniffmonkey: are you using the default Windows CD burner?
[17:17] <gluesniffmonkey> Ubuntu. Brassero
[17:17] <biledemon> bobRoss: you don't have to reinstall. You can have multiple desktop environments installed at the same time. Choose which one you want at the login screen. All files are shared
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> bobRoss: install the xfce4 package and log off, you can log into either session on the login screen
[17:17] <bobRoss> really? does it not screw up the basic setup?
[17:17] <Teltariat> How is everyone managing building and hosting in source control their private tree of Ubuntu packages, if you would prefer not to use Ubuntu's PPA service?
[17:17] <mish> hey all, brand new 14.04 install, installed chromium-browser and it won't start, any ideas? it just sits there in unity dock with little ">" arrow next to it, can open tabs etc and see them in right click unity dock menu, however it's like the window just isn't rendering...tried running from cmd line, no errors there to see
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> bobRoss: not at all
[17:18] <bobRoss> wow!
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> mish: try launching it from the terminal, the output may give clues
[17:18] <Ryan6578> Anyone know what may be causing my issue?
[17:18] <kittykitty> anyone know why the ubuntu backup tool tries to backup the .gvfs and .cache/dconf files? lol
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> bobRoss: you can install all the DEs you can get hold of and store, then choose what you want at login
[17:19] <mish> ActionParsnip: tried that, nothing comes back...I mean it successfully runs but no useful info
[17:19] <bobRoss> i freakin love ubuntu! :)
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> mish: could try renaming the chromium config folder which is in ~/.config then relaunch
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> bobRoss: your OS is flexible
[17:19] <kittykitty> mish, i had that problem with chrome once, i just made a new .desktop file for it
[17:20] <sprung> ActionParsnip, in your opinion should we be using the Ubuntu Backup Tool or are there better solutions you would recommend?
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> sprung: I use a cron'd rsync job. Its as old as the hills
[17:20] <sprung> ActionParsnip, just curious because you've helped me probably about 20 times now
[17:20] <sprung> fair enough
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> sprung: its dirty but it works
[17:20] <mish> kittykitty: will look into that, thank you
[17:21] <kittykitty> Ive actually got it ignoring the .gvfs and .config/dconf files but it still says it cant back them up... like... what???
[17:21] <TuxRescue> could somebody tell me how i can find out where the popup window "enter password to unlock your key chain" comes from?
[17:21] <sprung> ActionParsnip, yep and using the right switches will only do incremental
[17:21] <sprung> *differential not incremental
[17:21] <kittykitty> ActionParsnip, nothing wrong with using deja-dup for ssh backups though right? :P
[17:22] <sprung> rsync does ssh, just fyi
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> kittykitty: not had to use it but i'd imagine it's fine
[17:22] <kittykitty> i like seeing a gui tbh, i know its ubuntu but i have a screen on here :P
[17:22] <kittykitty> ActionParsnip, any ideas on ignoring .gvfs and .cache/dconf?
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> sprung: I just need a copy, just updating the changed files on a USB drive
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> kittykitty: could use x forwarding ;)
[17:23] <kittykitty> lol what ActionParsnip ? :P
[17:23] <SchrodingersScat> !info grsync | kittykitty
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> kittykitty:  --exclude /path/to/exclude
[17:24] <kittykitty> ok :P It doesnt work when you add paths to the ignore list in the gui for some reason... hmmmmm
[17:25] <TuxRescue> or the other way around: where did System / Preferences / Passwords and Encryption Keys go?
[17:25] <darkblue_b> hi - I have a new 14.04 setup with several hard-disks correctly mounted.. I added a new 3TB disk and did the unthunkable, I hit FORMAT (QUICK) in gnome-disks on the WRONG 3TB disk.. so.. I admit it.. in gparted I chose "attempt data rescue" and let GPART run overnight.. any hints, pages or other info ?
[17:27] <kittykitty> darkblue_b, sounds like its all lost tbh
[17:29] <TuxRescue> darkblue_b: there are tools to recover data when you formatted the disk
[17:29] <TuxRescue> gparted is not the one i have in mind, hang on
[17:30] <TuxRescue> darkblue_b: what partition type it was?
[17:30] <darkblue_b> yeah good question.. I suspect it was bsd
[17:31] <darkblue_b> kittykitty I have a habit of keeping a text file of `ls -lR` for big disks.. not up to date, but I just looked and I do have a listing like that for this drive
[17:31] <TuxRescue> Testdisk
[17:31] <darkblue_b> ah
[17:32] <darkblue_b> so the GPART output is not very useful ?
[17:33] <TuxRescue> dont write to it and use Testdisk is my suggestion
[17:33] <caesar_> c
[17:33] <darkblue_b> ok.. thx
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> darkblue_b: use your backups.....
[17:44] <darkblue_b> ActionParsnip: gparted is not able to do anything constructve?
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> darkblue_b: you could use foremost in a liveCD to maybe recover the data.
[17:45] <darkblue_b> "foremost" ?
[17:46] <darkblue_b> http://sourceforge.net/projects/foremost/
[17:47] <OerHeks> Gparted with a 3Tb disk?
[17:47] <darkblue_b> yes
[17:47] <darkblue_b> GPT
[17:47] <OerHeks> Gparted cannot handle GPT AFAIK
[17:47] <darkblue_b> hm ok
[17:48] <Ryan6578> I'm having a problem where when I load something from my flash drive (Ubuntu install, DBAN, etc), whenever I make a keystroke, it "disables" the keyboard. I'm not able to type, etc.
[17:48] <Ryan6578> And it freezes the Ubuntu install.
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> darkblue_b: why would size a factor in any way?
[17:48] <darkblue_b> the last time I tried the Knoppix cd/dvd it wasnt all that great, actually.. looking again now
[17:49] <darkblue_b> ActionParsnip: I am not an expert at disk formats, but there is a hard limit of 2TB with some disk setups
[17:49] <Daekdroom> Hello. I'm having an issue that the GRUB bootloader is no longer working. I have both Windows 7 and Ubuntu 14.04 installed but when I open GParted through the LiveUSB, it recognizes my linux partitions (/ and /home) as unnalocated space. Is there anything I can do?
[17:49] <darkblue_b> this is a single partition with ext4
[17:50] <ikonia> Daekdroom: are they encypted ?
[17:50] <Daekdroom> ikonia: nope.
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> darkblue_b: never seen that in my life.....probably a really old BIOS.....
[17:50] <ikonia> that's odd
[17:50] <JustSighDudes> Can I ask about putty here?
[17:50] <darkblue_b> ActionParsnip: you are confusing a few things.. BIOS is not the source of this
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> darkblue_b: why do you not have backups?
[17:51] <darkblue_b> I have extensive backups
[17:51] <bobRoss> i second the need for putty info
[17:51] <darkblue_b> I suggest putty be put to a merciful death
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> darkblue_b: then just restore the data from backup, simples
[17:53] <Kartagis> darkblue_b: how are windows guys supposed to connect to *nix then?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> JustSighDudes: yes, if it is te version for ubuntu from the ubuntu repos
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> JustSighDudes: you can easily ssh from a terminal, not sure why putty is really needed in Linux...
[17:53] <darkblue_b> yes,the Ubuntu version of putty is a good topic, agree!
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> JustSighDudes: what is your issue?
[17:55] <skinux> I know it's unofficial, but does NetFlix-Desktop have only a custom browser now or is that an old version?
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> skinux: I'd contact the PPA maintainer
[17:57] <TeraJL> i've download the firmware update for my SSD but it has only an exe, is there any way to install it trough linux?
[17:57] <JustSighDudes> ActionParsnip: No. I have putty on my work (windows computer). I want it to open links in my local browser instead of w3m when using newsbeuter
[17:57] <ikonia> no
[17:57] <ikonia> putty doesn't open links in external applications
[17:57] <ikonia> putty has nothing to do with opening links
[17:59] <NthDegree> TeraJL, most likely no
[17:59] <NthDegree> TeraJL, if it supports XP there's Hiren's Boot CD
[17:59] <NthDegree> that lets you boot to a minimalist Live XP
[18:00] <OerHeks> NthDegree, hirens is illegal, so offtopic in #ubuntu
[18:00] <NthDegree> OerHeks, ah, my bad.
[18:01] <OerHeks> better suggest freedos ;-)
[18:01] <NthDegree> OerHeks, if it's Windows-only, FreeDOS won't work. But there is always Windows Hyper-V server
[18:01] <NthDegree> they gave away 2008 free of charge
[18:01] <NthDegree> throw it on an External HDD and then it's a free, legal Windows
[18:02] <NthDegree> OerHeks, in an ideal world, I'd say camp outside the corporate office of the SSD vendor until they make a way to update under Linux ;-p
[18:04] <OerHeks> For a small number of machines, here is a howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIOSUpdate maybe that ssd.exe can be handled like HP section
[18:06] <darkblue_b> JustSighDudes: get a virtual machine setup on your very powerful windows box, install Ubuntu, enjoy
[18:10] <ikonia> jhutchins: yeah, something wrong with his setup there
[18:11] <jhutchins> Looks like a non-standard prompt too.
[18:11] <ikonia> csh
[18:11]  * deb netsplit rcks!
[18:11] <afidegnum> ikonia: I had a website installed which I want it to run on nginx
[18:12] <ikonia> afidegnum: ok, so stop apache, move the content to nginx, start nginx
[18:12] <bubble_beam> can i install a kubuntu over a ubuntu . .both are of the same release (14.04)
[18:12] <afidegnum> ???? I dont get that part please
[18:12] <ikonia> bubble_beam: yes
[18:12] <afidegnum> meaning there is a differnt folder for nginx server?
[18:12] <afidegnum> I mean different web folder ?
[18:12] <bubble_beam> ikonia, i wont lose the files right/?
[18:12] <ikonia> afidegnum: stop apache, copy the content to the nginx web root, start nginx
[18:13] <ikonia> bubble_beam: if you re-install over the top, yes you will
[18:13] <ikonia> bubble_beam: if you install the kubuntu-desktop package in your ubuntu install, no it won't
[18:13] <bubble_beam> ikonia, so what should i be doing?
[18:13] <afidegnum> ikonia: another reminder, there are many web folder for different domains
[18:13] <ikonia> so ?
[18:13] <afidegnum> I just want to configure about 2 of them
[18:13] <bubble_beam> ikonia, i installed kubuntu-desktop package. and  I accidently purged a lot of things. now the desktop doesnt appear fully
[18:13] <afidegnum> to use nginx and the rest can use apache
[18:13] <ikonia> afidegnum: you can't - you can't run two web servers at the same tim eon the same port
[18:14] <ikonia> bubble_beam: then re-install kubuntu-desktop and it will re-pull in the dependencies
[18:14] <afidegnum> like domain1.com will be on apache and domain2.com will be on nginx
[18:14] <ikonia> afidegnum: can't do that
[18:14] <genii> afidegnum: The problem with that is that there's only one port 80
[18:14] <bubble_beam> i tried that ikonia , but it doesnt work
[18:14] <ikonia> bubble_beam: it does
[18:15]  * darkblue_b makes some progress with Testdisk
[18:16] <JamesMc_> Tech question about Ubuntu. Any utility or app that support S.M.A.R.T. drives?
[18:16] <ikonia> JamesMc_: smart is the app
[18:16] <ikonia> apt-get --reinstall install $package should work, keep an eye on if it pulls in the dependencies
[18:16] <ikonia> bubble_beam: here is an interesting read I just found on it http://askubuntu.com/questions/275719/reinstall-package-and-its-installed-dependencies
[18:17] <bubble_beam> ikonia, thanks . lemme try
[18:19] <bubble_beam> ikonia, it doesnt work
[18:19] <ikonia> what doesn't
[18:20] <bubble_beam> ikonia, reinsatll
[18:20] <bubble_beam> reinstall*
[18:20] <ikonia> bubble_beam: did you read/follow the page I sent you ?
[18:20] <bubble_beam> erors
[18:20] <afidegnum> ikonia: genii  what about using proxies?
[18:21] <ikonia> afidegnum: why do you want to move 1 site to a different web application
[18:21] <ikonia> afidegnum: it sounds like you're making a very complex situation, what is the reason for this ?
[18:21] <Sunstream|Ubu14> Okay
[18:21] <JamesMc_> Thanks ikonia
[18:21] <Sunstream|Ubu14> Who here was helping me with Ubuntu earlier
[18:21] <bubble_beam> ikonia, its showing unmet dependencies
[18:21] <afidegnum> ikonia: I am installing a web application on apache which seems to be very slow as well as lot of timeout
[18:22] <afidegnum> so I am thinking of a faster web server  hence thinking of using nginx
[18:22] <bubble_beam> can i reinstall ubuntu without losing just my data , ikonia ?
[18:22] <genii> afidegnum: Conceivably you may be able to do something with a custom xinetd which directs incoming to whichever httpd is appropriate. But I wouldn't be much help for assisting with that, years since I tinkered with inetd/xinetd
[18:22] <ikonia> afidegnum: right, so why don't you debug that rather than make a terrible setup that you appear unable to manage
[18:22] <Guma> I was wondering. 14.04 Desktop I changes one of interface to static IP. This was done System Settings -> Network. After reboots it all works great but /etc/network/interfaces does not have my changes. Is there another place where such changes are stored?
[18:23] <afidegnum> I tuned my database configuration, even installed mariadb with TokuDB storage engine
[18:23] <afidegnum> I even tuned keepalive on apache
[18:23] <afidegnum> but it still didn't help
[18:23] <ikonia> afidegnum: so where is the performance being blocked ?
[18:24] <Pici> genii: The normal way of doing this is to use apache/nginx/whatever to reverse proxy certain requests to other internal web servers.
[18:24] <genii> Pici: Ah, OK. Haven't had to learn about that yet.
[18:25] <afidegnum> ikonia: frankly, I don't know I tried all my best but I suspect the applicaiton heavinness is also making this up
[18:25] <bubble_beam> ikonia, thanks i got it :)
[18:25] <bubble_beam> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuReinstallation
[18:25] <afidegnum> so i am thinking of using nginx
[18:25] <ikonia> afidegnum: ok, so if you don't know, making a more complex process (when you don't understand it) for no reason is not a wise move
[18:26] <afidegnum> but the fact is many reported performance benefits using nginx
[18:27] <ikonia> afidegnum: you're just being blind, if you want to do this, carry out
[18:27] <ikonia> I strongly advise against it
[18:27] <afidegnum> ok, what do you suggest?
[18:29] <hsnopi> ubuntu 10. in rc2.d I have calls to init.d services. specifically apache and tomcat. they do not start on boot. they do start manually when calling directly in init.d. Adding | tee out.txt to all echo command reveals that on boot the "stop" command is being called (echo $1) as opposed to start. no idea what calls the files in rc2.d. help?
[18:29] <lizard__> hey.. can someone direct me to the steam channel?
[18:29] <sprung> lizard__, #steamlug
[18:29] <genii> lizard__: #ubuntu-steam
[18:29] <sprung> either or
[18:30] <sprung> or both
[18:31] <hsnopi> rc-sysinit.conf is set to default runlevel of 2. but the processes aren't starting
[18:31] <hsnopi> i see no errors in syslog or the specific application logs
[18:32] <lizard__> im having a problem with opengl not using direct rendering with steam
[18:32] <hsnopi> upstart is being used so it should be calling the rc*.d files as well. which is does but ti seems to send in stop as an arg on boot.
[18:33] <Pici> ///36
[18:37] <lizard__> here's my glxinfo: http://pastebin.com/BP96mcjM ... and here's the error i get from steam when i launch it and when i try to run a game that needs opengl direct rendering http://pastebin.com/K9ZvpJG7
[18:38] <m2k> hey there
[18:44] <airstrike> hi. i tried setting up a git server on my computer, but i set it up so that user foo owns the repo. so cloning foo@domain:repo.git works, but i want it to be git@. how can i change that?
[18:45] <mustmodify> How can I move a running process to tmux? I was thinking something like ^z; tmux; fg but it's a different PID so that probably won't work.
[18:45] <mustmodify> airstrike: create user git
[18:45] <mustmodify> and have that user own it
[18:48] <jkhl> how can I install a program to be used from the terminal (as programs in /usr/local/bin ? if I have the binaries, do I just put them in there (/usr/local/bin/) ?
[18:48] <jkhl> the program didn't include a make file
[18:49] <mustmodify> jkhl: anywhere in the path will do. You may need to chmod +x /path/to/binary if it isn't already set.
[18:49] <Beldar> jkhl, Have you checked the ubuntu repos for this mystery app?
[18:52] <jkhl> Beldar: its a parts of speech tagger, probably not there, but how should I check?
[18:52] <Beldar> jkhl, If it has a name you have several ways to look.
[18:53] <bluezone> Do all debian-based systems have gnome-terminal OR xterm installed by default?
[18:53] <airstrike> mustmodify: i had to move repo.git to /home/git
[18:53] <jkhl> Beldar: what is the most common way I can check in lubuntu?
[18:53] <Streusel> I'm stuck with an issue, I got a directory structure of foo/foo/bar/foobar, how to I move the last 3 folder 1 up?
[18:54] <SchrodingersScat> jkhl: could try a 'apt-cache search package-name'
[18:54] <jkhl> ok
[18:56] <Beldar> jkhl, I have asked this as in 7 years of using linux, I have rarely had to install out if the repos, but that is my experience is all. When  ask this question 75% or more had no clue that it was in the repo.
[19:00] <joseph07> Using 12.04 64 bit I recently started having issues playing youtube videos in both chromium and firefox. Video plays for a few moments without audio and then the tab freezes (firefox dies). Possibly useful info is that chromium reports libGL error: open uki failed (Operation not permitted)
[19:04] <hsnopi> offhand, is there an ubuntu server chatroom?
[19:05] <daftykins> yes
[19:05] <Pici> hsnopi: #ubuntu-server, oddly enough ;)
[19:05] <hsnopi> man, that would have been a rough guess
[19:05] <hsnopi> thanks
[19:09] <Fuchs> hsnopi: just in general for future searches: you can search for channels with alis, see /msg alis help list. /msg alis list *searchterm* looks for channel names containing searchterm. /msg alis list * -topic *searchterm* looks for channel topics containing searchterm.
[19:09] <hsnopi> Fuchs: goo to know. thanks:)
[19:09] <hsnopi> good
[19:09] <Fuchs> you're welcome :)
[19:12] <juliohm> I have a USB card similar to this one: http://i00.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v3/505933490_1/DIY-Blank-Plastic-font-b-Credit-b-font-font-b-Card-b-font-Size-2GB-4GB.jpg
[19:12] <juliohm> The device appears as /dev/sdc on the system, I've created a rule for it under rule.d/, but I'm not able to mount it.
[19:13] <juliohm> What can be the source of the issue? I'm out of ideas
[19:14] <MarcN> juliohm, it is probably formatted as vfat all on /dev/sda (not the usual /dev/sda1).  Try from the commandline:   sudo mount /dev/sdc /mnt
[19:15] <jasabella> so my understanding of the release cycle is that packages you install with apt-get will be the same version as those found on your distribution version's iso, just with updates from ubuntu?
[19:15] <juliohm> MarcN, it's exactly that command that doesn't work
[19:15] <juliohm> mount: no medium found on /dev/sdc
[19:15] <MarcN> juliohm, for debugging also try:   sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[19:16] <MarcN> juliohm, what does cat /proc/partitions says?  Maybe it isn't /dev/sdc
[19:16] <juliohm> MarcN, no output for fdisk
[19:16] <MarcN> juliohm, info also found in "dmesg"
[19:16] <juliohm> let me check /proc/partitions
[19:16] <juliohm> MarcN, it's not listed in /proc/partitions
[19:16] <MarcN> juliohm, I had one similar from some tradeshow swag once.
[19:17] <MarcN> juliohm, unplug it.  plug it back and then do dmesg
[19:17] <juliohm> yes, this card was from an event my advisor went to
[19:17] <juliohm> I did it already, let me check it again
[19:18] <l_h_o_u> Xubuntu 14.04, i find a file in home "Core". I removed it but he comeback everytime. Thanks :)
[19:18] <juliohm> MarcN, dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/MF6RsiST
[19:19] <juliohm> The udev rule I've tried is...
[19:19] <juliohm> SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="090c", MODE="0666"
[19:19] <juliohm> As this is the idVendor showing on dmesg
[19:19] <MarcN> juliohm, should be /dev/sdc
[19:19] <juliohm> yes
[19:19] <juliohm> and the file is create in /dev
[19:20] <juliohm> I can ls /dev
[19:20] <juliohm> and it's there
[19:20] <juliohm> I just can't mount it
[19:20] <MarcN> juliohm, and what about      sudo fdisk /dev/sdc        show?
[19:20] <joseph07> [A
[19:20] <juliohm> MarcN, fdisk: unable to open /dev/sdc: No medium found
[19:20] <MarcN> juliohm,  I've never had to muck with udev for mass storage devices
[19:21] <juliohm> MarcN, I did played with udev for my cell phones
[19:21] <juliohm> It worked for two phones I had
[19:21] <MarcN> juliohm, hmm.  yeah for MTP phones and android hacking...
[19:21] <juliohm> exactly
[19:22] <juliohm> This is the official channel for Ubuntu users?
[19:22] <daftykins> yes
[19:22] <juliohm> It's so low traffic, it's strange
[19:22] <OerHeks> l_h_o_u, that file named core, is a coredump for Apport > https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/10616
[19:22] <dj_> Anybody using dropbox in ubuntu here?
[19:23] <daftykins> juliohm: hah, that's probably more down to freenode having issues today. it does get manic in here 24/7
[19:23] <MarcN> juliohm, hmm, I've had USB disk present as both a CD and a HD.  Both /dev/sr1 and /dev/sdx showed up when plugged in.  Are there other unknown /dev/ devices?
[19:23] <juliohm> MarcN, let me check...
[19:23] <MarcN> juliohm, anything show up on the side of nautilus filemanager when plug in/out?
[19:24] <dj_> Why does dropbox ask me to restart nautilus?
[19:24] <MarcN> juliohm, trick:     ls /dev/* > x.x ; plug in the device; ls /dev/*  > y.y ; diff x.x y.y
[19:24] <juliohm> MarcN, I'm actually running KDE
[19:24] <juliohm> let me do the diff trick
[19:25] <dj_> anyone know Why does dropbox ask me to restart nautilus?
[19:25] <OerHeks> dj_, after install ?
[19:25] <dj_> after turning on the computer
[19:25] <MarcN> dj_, probably reload some shared library
[19:26] <dj_> So is it normal?
[19:26] <juliohm> MarcN, sg3 is also created when I plug the card
[19:26] <MarcN> dj_, should be one time needed (until dropbox upgrades again)
[19:26] <MarcN> juliohm, try mounting that.  May be read only
[19:26] <juliohm> let me see...
[19:26] <dj_> MarcN: Thanks
[19:26] <bekks> MarcN: srX indicates a read only device, not a cdrom in particular.
[19:27] <n1n0> installing gdm on 14.04 disabled the ubuntu load
[19:27] <juliohm> MarcN, mount: /dev/sg3 is not a block device
[19:27] <Poultra> allo toi
[19:27] <n1n0> had this problem with 13.10: http://askubuntu.com/questions/223501/ubuntu-gets-stuck-in-a-login-loop
[19:27] <n1n0> and also now on 14
[19:28] <n1n0> yet, in 13 after gdm installation, could access, now no
[19:28] <cipher___> I'm running ubuntu server and connecting from windows via ssh. It seems the more data streamed the quicker the connection fails. (forwarding x11 takes seconds), editing files minutes, idling: hours.
[19:28] <juliohm> MarcN, the strange thing is that this device is also being recognized on Windows as if it was a fast storage device
[19:28] <cipher___> well, tens of minutes
[19:28] <juliohm> MarcN, I used it in the past as a simple pendrive
[19:28] <cipher___> It seems to be a software issue, not the network
[19:28] <juliohm> MarcN, it worked fine without these fast access interface Windows is trying to use
[19:29] <juliohm> not today
[19:29] <Poultra> moi?
[19:29] <MarcN> juliohm, strange.  It should work...
[19:29] <Beldar> !english | Poultra
[19:29] <Poultra> unbunrtui is french ?
[19:30] <cipher___> Wes hāl?
[19:30] <Poultra> ubottu is french music-me ok?
[19:30] <juliohm> thanks for the help MarcN
[19:30] <Poultra> me.
[19:30] <juliohm> I'll simply try another card in the future, it may be a hardware issue too
[19:30] <Beldar> !fr | Poultra
[19:30] <Poultra> I Am drink intel:ligetnr
[19:31] <dj_> My youtube videos does not play as smoothly as in windows, does anyone have a similiar problem?
[19:31] <dj_> Is it the flash player or the video card driver?
[19:31] <cipher___> dj_ do you have accelerated graphics enabled?
[19:32] <Poultra> me
[19:32] <cipher___> dj_: try switching to the html5 player instead, too
[19:32] <dj_> cipher___, I dont know how to do that. Sorry I am new to ubuntu
[19:32] <Poultra> me 1970
[19:32] <cipher___> youtube.com/html5
[19:32] <Poultra> me
[19:32] <Poultra> ok cipher
[19:32] <dj_> cipher____ how  do you turn on the accelerated graphics?
[19:33] <Poultra> dj
[19:33] <dj_> yeah poultra
[19:33] <Poultra> i am french
[19:33] <Poultra> dj_ ca va
[19:33] <Poultra> ok
[19:33] <dj_> Poultra, So?
[19:33] <Poultra> me
[19:33] <Poultra> soy logique
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> !fr
[19:34] <Poultra> y tu dj
[19:34] <Poultra> ok
[19:34] <Poultra> unholycrab
[19:34] <bekks> Poultra: Do you have a specific ubuntu support question?
[19:34] <alesan> hey how can I disable ALL special visual effects?
[19:34] <Poultra> Beldar
[19:34] <cipher___> I do
[19:34] <Poultra> bekks
[19:35] <Poultra> i have 44
[19:35] <Poultra> no i have support
[19:35] <Beldar> alesan, What release and desktop?
[19:35] <alesan> Beldar, normal ubuntu 14.04
[19:35] <Poultra> me
[19:35] <alesan> as it comes on the CD
[19:36] <Poultra> me
[19:36] <bekks> Poultra: So start asking an ubuntu related support question pleasae.
[19:36] <Poultra> become
[19:36] <Beldar> alesan, Thanks just pertinent info for help. ;)
[19:36] <Poultra> Beldar
[19:36] <Poultra> yes
[19:36] <alesan> Beldar, what do you mean? I just installed, I have not changed the desktop or anything
[19:36] <Poultra> what is becaome
[19:36] <pete___> need help
[19:36] <alesan> I just want the visual effects to be gone forever
[19:36] <Poultra> a supporter quesrtion
[19:37] <Poultra> me
[19:37] <pete___> my login pass word
[19:37] <gas-sho> je suis une petit singe avec une penis poilu et je deteste la fromage!
[19:37] <Poultra> ok
[19:37] <gas-sho> sorry
[19:37] <bekks> !ops | gas-sho
[19:37] <Beldar> alesan, What I meant was there are multiple desktops, and releases, and we never know if the use says ubuntu that they are using unity, details are the key here.
[19:37] <gas-sho> i shall english
[19:37] <Poultra> all
[19:37] <gas-sho> hey bekk dont be mean
[19:38] <Poultra> me?
[19:38] <NGC3982> I shallt English, me fair maiden!
[19:38] <gas-sho> :P
[19:38] <bekks> gas-sho: So watch your language please.
[19:38] <gas-sho> ok
[19:38] <pete___> i have forgot it is there any way i can log in
[19:39] <MarcN> pete___, you have physical access to the system? Is the disk unencrypted?
[19:39] <alesan> Beldar, how do I find out?
[19:39] <Beldar> pete___, You can reset the password in a recovery root shell.
[19:39] <alesan> I am normally a KDE user, I installed this 32bit Ubuntu on a virtual machine for some reason, how can I disable the visual effects when I open a window?
[19:39] <pete___> ok can u help me with that
[19:39] <Beldar> alesan, Not sure I have not used unity for awhile
[19:40] <pete___> please
[19:40] <Beldar> pete___, http://askubuntu.com/questions/24006/how-do-i-reset-a-lost-administrative-password
[19:41] <Beldar> pete___, Do not plead, this info is all over the wen.
[19:41] <Beldar> web*
[19:58] <Frizziero77> hi all, guys
[19:59] <Frizziero77> anybody available for a little question?
[20:00] <Frizziero77> i have Ubuntu 14.04LTS 64bits installes, but i need to pass to the 32bits version
[20:00] <Frizziero77> is it possible to do that using do-release-upgrade command?
[20:03] <Frizziero77> anybody there?
[20:03] <IdleOne> Frizziero77: no, you must reinstall if you want to use 32bit version
[20:04] <Frizziero77> oh, thanks IdleOne.... i'd like to avoid to download and burna disk for this operation.... too bad :(
[20:13] <jhutchins> What tool(s) is/are used in 14.04 to control daemon startup?
[20:16] <aarcane> jhutchins, upstart + service
[20:17] <aarcane> jhutchins, the release was getting prepped too soon to switch to systemd
[20:18] <jhutchins> aarcane: What do I use instead of chkconfig?
[20:19] <jhutchins> aarcane: ...or rcconf?  I installed sshd, but it wasn't in the list of Services in the GUI config menu, so I couldn't turn it off from there.
[20:19] <aarcane> I've heard of chkconfig, but never used it.  it's an archaic and barbaric tool.  You'll have to either ask someone else (they'll respond soon enough if they know) or be more specific
[20:19] <aarcane> try service sshd stop; or service ssh stop;
[20:20] <jhutchins> aarcane: chkconfig manages the symlinks in the rc?.d directories to enable/disable dameon start/stop in various runlevels.
[20:20] <jhutchins> aarcane: I don't mean start/stop, I mean enable/disable at start/stop.
[20:21] <jhutchins> aarcane: I'm not sure what tool to use with upstart.
[20:22]  * jhutchins ibeing dragged kicking ans screaming into the 21st century.
[20:22] <ThatGuy> hey
[20:22] <ThatGuy> how to I stop xubuntu starting when I turn on my server
[20:22] <ThatGuy> I installd to use when I need a Graphics internface
[20:22] <aarcane> jhutchins, I haven't done it in a while, but this article from google looks right:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/how-to-enable-or-disable-services
[20:23] <k1l_> !text | ThatGuy
[20:23] <jhutchins> ThatGuy: figure out whether you have lightdm, gdm, xdm or whatever, use the article above to disable it.  Start/stop manually with the service command as required.
[20:24] <ThatGuy> thanks jhutchins
[20:26] <aarcane> I miss the olden days of well established runlevels :(
[20:37] <jhutchins> aarcane: The RH branch still uses 'em.
[20:38] <aarcane> jhutchins, the rh people also still use RPM.  There's olden days, and then there's barbaric.
[20:39] <junkmechanic_> hi...i tried installing ubuntu with dual boot on an efi ...
[20:39] <junkmechanic_> as it turns out i forgot to install the grub on the efi partition...
[20:39] <junkmechanic_> so then with a live cd session i tried boot-repair...it finally said "an error occured"
[20:40] <junkmechanic_> i have the pastefile...
[20:40] <halberd> do you truly have the pastefile
[20:41] <junkmechanic_> should i share the paste file?
[20:41] <junkmechanic_> oh yes...why would you say that.. :D
[20:41] <junkmechanic_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7671165/
[20:44] <alazyworkaholic> I need a little bash shell help. I recovered files and they're mixed with useless ones in many folders. I want to delete all image files less than a certain number of pixels. I found this command which will list the files.             find . -iname "*.jpg" -type f | xargs -I{} identify -format '%w %h %i' {} | awk '{if ($1<300 || $2<300) print $line}'
[20:44] <alazyworkaholic>              How to I adjust it to move the files to a temporary directory for inspection before deletion?
[20:44] <junkmechanic_> halberd, any help?
[20:48] <alazyworkaholic> Anyone proficient with BASH here?
[20:49] <junkmechanic_> alazyworkaholic, is bash a necessity? i would suggest python scripting
[20:49] <SchrodingersScat> alazyworkaholic: try stating your problem, someone might know, there is also #bash
[20:49] <SchrodingersScat> oh, you did
[20:50] <junkmechanic_> you can use os.walk() and then simple conditions for checking the size of the file...no biggie
[20:51] <aarcane> what's the ubuntu way to purge ubuntu host ssh keys for reimaging a system?
[20:51] <alazyworkaholic> junkmechanic: no, not necessary at all. Suggested bash because I have a command that does most of the job, but I'm not a programmer. (Working through python at CodeAcademy, but not there yet).
[20:54] <alazyworkaholic> Anyway, if someone knows how to pipe the command I wrote to mv "cmd_output", I'd much appreciate it.
[20:54] <junkmechanic_> guys...anyone up to glance at my grub install error pastebin ?
[20:54] <tolokoban_> @alazyworkaholic if you just need to move file that have less that a number of bytes, you can use this :
[20:54] <tolokoban_> find . -name '*.jpg' -type f -size -1024c
[20:55] <tolokoban_> The c suffix is for bytes.
[20:55] <tolokoban_> You can move such files like this :
[20:56] <alazyworkaholic> tolokoban: thanks, but it's actually important for me to do it by image dimension. And where in your command is the move-to direcotry?
[20:56] <tolokoban_> find . -name '*.jpg' -type f -size -1024c -exec mv {} ../garbage \;
[20:56] <alazyworkaholic> This will find the files. I just don't know how to delete them: find . -iname "*.jpg" -type f | xargs -I{} identify -format '%w %h %i' {} | awk '{if ($1<300 || $2<300) print $3}'
[20:56] <alazyworkaholic> or move them
[20:58] <alazyworkaholic> tolokoban: ok, I have very little idea of how to use bash, but do you think if I take that last bit of your command and add it to mine, it would work?
[20:58] <alazyworkaholic> find . -iname "*.jpg" -type f | xargs -I{} identify -format '%w %h %i' {} | awk '{if ($1<300 || $2<300) print $3}' -exec mv {} ../garbage \;
[21:01] <alazyworkaholic> tried this, but no good:
[21:01] <alazyworkaholic> ~/Desktop/RECOVERY ARCHIVE/IMAGES$ find . -iname "*.jpg" -type f | xargs -I{} identify -format '%w %h %i' {} | awk '{if ($1<300 || $2<300) print $3}' -exec mv {} ../garbage \;
[21:01] <alazyworkaholic> awk: cannot open -exec (No such file or directory)
[21:01] <alazyworkaholic> xargs: identify: terminated by signal 13
[21:02] <jkhl> when I try to extract a file which extracts correctly in windows, an apparently randomly named empty folder is created
[21:02] <jkhl> in lubuntu
[21:02] <jkhl> (and the files are nowhere to be found after the extraction 'completes')
[21:04] <tolokoban_> @alazy... Your command is perfect. Just add this to the end and you will have what you are looking for :
[21:04] <tolokoban_>  | xargs -I{} mv {} tmp/
[21:05] <netameta> is there a way to increase the lines showned in putty i mean i am at a point where the output of some code is bigger then my scroll screen - my question is there a way to increase that ?
[21:06] <FuuqUmiist> yeah
[21:07] <netameta> how ?
[21:07] <Kartagis> why would sudo service smbd start say failed to start?
[21:10] <netameta> fuuqumist thanks found
[21:16] <jhutchins> Kartagis:  Because the service failed to start.
[21:16] <kfpisa> hi
[21:17] <jhutchins> Kartagis: You might try testparm to see if your config is ok.
[21:17] <Kartagis> jhutchins: nothing in the logs, testparm says config file is okay
[21:21] <bonez2046> I need help transferring data from one machine (fyrenice 192.168.2.2) over to another machine (knecht  192.168.2.3). What's the best tool to get this done?
[21:22] <halberd> why not just transfer them on a flash drive?
[21:22] <Kartagis> bonez2046: rsync
[21:23] <bonez2046> Kartagis: ok, can you point me to a tutorial?
[21:23] <bonez2046> or is it pretty simple?
[21:23] <Kartagis> man rsync
[21:24] <bonez2046> ok
[21:33] <phelix> Anyone know how i would go about getting the workspaces in the top bar at the top of the screen? instead of in the launcher bar? that make any sense
[21:33] <ObrienDave> Kartagis, or Grsync for a gui frontend
[21:35] <ByT3b0N3> hey guys, have installed gimp 2.8 from ppa on 12.04 but getting "segmentation fault" (nothing else). could one help?
[21:35] <ByT3b0N3> no working solution on internet
[21:35] <holstein> !ppa
[21:35] <chimeracoder> does anybody know why I might be getting " wlan0: deauthenticating from <MAC> by local choice (reason=3)" even if I have power management off?
[21:36] <holstein> ByT3b0N3: i would launch from terminal.. try as the guest user, or another user, or by removing/moving the user config. try the default supported version..
[21:36] <ByT3b0N3> 2.6 works
[21:36] <ByT3b0N3> but 2.8 not
[21:37] <holstein> ByT3b0N3: well, not 2.8 from that unsupported ppa..
[21:37] <ByT3b0N3> which one is supported?
[21:37] <ByT3b0N3> for 2.8
[21:39] <ByT3b0N3> ppa:otto-kesselgulasch/gimp
[21:39] <ByT3b0N3> this one i have
[21:43] <ominomi> hello. whenever i try to press shift  l, the ctrl r key is also triggered even though i'm not pressing it, and when i press shift r, the ctrl l key is triggered without me actually pressing it.
[21:43] <ominomi> i can't used the shift key for uppercase letters at all anymore
[21:43] <ominomi> *can't use the
[21:44] <JustSighDudes> Anyone dual boot on a yoga 2?
[21:48] <ObrienDave> ominomi, sounds like new keyboard time
[21:50] <ominomi> obriendave i hope not, i havent been using it that long
[21:50] <ominomi> this is what it looks like when i run it through the keyboard layout chart. the left shift key is the only one i'm pressing down http://i.imgur.com/kQscujP.png
[21:51] <ObrienDave> ominomi, might try changing keyboard layout
[21:52] <ominomi> ObrienDave, it does that for every layout iäve tried. iäm trying the swedish layout right now
[21:55] <ominomi> ObrienDave: Okay, I'm using my old worn out IBM keyboard right now. It doesn't seem to have this problem like the Logitech one does.
[21:55] <ominomi> It appears you were right that it is a keyboard-specific problem.
[21:56] <ominomi> Thanks.
[21:56]  * ObrienDave wonders if you might need a driver?
[21:57] <unholycrab> someone hath summoned me
[21:57] <unholycrab> (\/) ;; (\/)
[21:57] <unholycrab> and has cowered away
[21:58] <unholycrab> WHO
[21:58] <unholycrab> unacceptable
[22:12] <JustSighDudes>  /join #linux
[22:12] <JustSighDudes> Huh
[22:14] <blade57> hi all
[22:15] <blade57> im want to know where i can get the apache webserver
[22:15] <k1l_> blade57: install the apache package?
[22:15] <blade57> where do i get the
[22:16] <blade57> thank you by the way
[22:16] <k1l_> "sudo apt-get install apache2"
[22:16] <blade57> thank you
[22:16] <k1l_> !apache | blade57
[22:18] <MrSendova> You can also install components separatly but it depends on your needs (eg: do you need php or you will host only static content)
[22:18] <blade57> im trying to by pass my fire wall for work so i can stop it from happing
[22:19] <MrSendova> blade75: Can you explain more precisely?
[22:19] <blade57> i was reading on a form and one person was talking about using apachy and a script
[22:20] <blade57> we are having a problem with the dell sonic firewall at my work
[22:20] <blade57> me and my IT guy are trying to find ways around it so we can stop it in the future
[22:20] <MrSendova> blade57: Sorry I can't help you with that
[22:21] <histo> blade57: find ways around what?
[22:21] <blade57> where do you think a good chanel would be to help me with that
[22:21] <blade57> histo: the dell sonic firewall
[22:21] <babetyboo> quick question, anyone point me in the direction of how to install google chromoe on lxle?
[22:21] <babetyboo> from terminal?
[22:22] <k1l_> babetyboo: ask the lxle support how the recommended way is
[22:22] <MrSendova> using apt-get?
[22:22] <babetyboo> yeas please
[22:22] <MrSendova> you can install chromium with apt-get
[22:23] <babetyboo> what sudo apt-get googlechrome?
[22:23] <MrSendova> babetyboo: Chromium is the open-source version of chrome
[22:23] <yandexru> does ubotnet work to make winows xp bootable on usb?
[22:23] <babetyboo> yeah i got that, i want to make use of html5 though?
[22:24] <MrSendova> babetyboo: Chromium include those functionnality
[22:24] <MrSendova> babetyboo: In fact, all modern browsers do...
[22:25] <babetyboo> so then what is the best blogging tool for chromium?
[22:26] <babetyboo> incorporating html5
[22:26] <MrSendova> babetyboo: what CMS/Blog engine do you use?
[22:26] <babetyboo> im using wordpress.om but want to customize more
[22:27] <MrSendova> babetyboo: What do you want to customize?
[22:27] <babetyboo> mainly using the html5 templates found here http://html5up.net/
[22:28] <babetyboo> once i download the template how do i incorporate it in wordpress?
[22:28] <histo> blade57: use a proxy
[22:29] <MrSendova> babetyboo: I'm not a wordpress expert but if you want to add wordpress templates you have to find templates made for wordpress. Anyway, if you have more wordpress questions i suggest you to move to #wordpress or go google it
[22:29] <babetyboo> a proxy app?
[22:29] <k1l_> babetyboo: that is not a ubuntu or chromium question, that is a wordpress question
[22:29] <blade57> histo: we have most poxy blocked
[22:30] <histo> blade57: can you ssh out?
[22:30] <histo> blade57: what is it blocking exactly that you are trying to circumvent?
[22:30] <blade57> histo: some site but not most
[22:30] <k1l_> blade57: i would suggest you talk to your IT department about that
[22:30] <babetyboo> if you can point me in the riht direction i can take it from there to ssk out
[22:30] <MrSendova> blade57: Is using tor an option?
[22:31] <histo> blade57: sshuttle is a nice way out.
[22:31] <blade57> im working with my IT department but they don't know anything about linux so i told them i would see if i could get passed it using it now that it is gitting more press because of windows 8
[22:32] <blade57> not to say that a bad thing i love ubuntu
[22:32] <babetyboo> bingo!  shuttle is the way forward me thinks.  thanks blade
[22:33] <kingbeowolf> I have a software raid how can I improve performance?
[22:34] <blade57> histro: what is sshuttle
[22:34] <wolfy1339> i'm running server 14.04, and i'd like to enable coloring on the terminal, on debian it was colored by default, any way to change this
[22:35] <histo> !info sshuttle | blade57
[22:35] <k1l_> kingbeowolf: buy a real raid adapter
[22:36] <babetyboo> real raid adapter?  is what?
[22:36] <histo> wolfy1339: edit your .bashrc  and create an alias for ls pointing to ls --color=auto
[22:36] <kingbeowolf> k1l_, got any recommendations ?
[22:36] <kingbeowolf> I am using a software raid and i have 4 SSD disks and it isn't as fast as I would like
[22:36] <histo> wolfy1339: echo 'alias ls='ls --color=auto' >> ~/.bashrc && source ~/.bashrc
[22:37] <k1l_> kingbeowolf: no. but am sure the #ubuntu-offtopic will have recommendations if you explain your setup there
[22:37] <histo> wolfy1339: echo 'alias ls='ls --color=auto'' >> ~/.bashrc && source ~/.bashrc       <<< corrected typo
[22:37] <histo> kingbeowolf: software raid is not as fast as a raid controller. What type of raid do you have?
[22:38] <kcdehimposter> Hey guys I have a problem.  I just installed gnome, and didn't like it, so when I went to go uninstall it (I am on Ubuntu 13.10), it didn't go through all the way.  I am now try to run ubuntu, but it is very glitchy, I can't see my desktop and such.  I can't find anything that will fix my problem.  I'd really appreciate some help so I can get back to the steam summer sale :)
[22:38] <kingbeowolf> histo, raid 0
[22:38] <MrSendova> kcdeh: What desktop manager do you want to replace gnome with?
[22:38] <histo> kcdehimposter: what do you mean you can't see your desktop?  what happens when you login?
[22:39] <histo> kingbeowolf: By what means are you measuring speed?
[22:40] <blade57> histo: thank you i well try that and see what it dose thank you all for all you help i well be back on to tell if it worked
[22:40] <kcdehimposter> MrSendova: I want to replace gnome with unity again
[22:40] <wolfy1339> ok, i checked out a post on askubuntu and they had TERM=xterm-color and mine is TERM=cygwin, how do i change that
[22:40] <kcdehimposter> or whatever the default ubuntu de was
[22:41] <k1l_> kcdehimposter: how did you install gnome?
[22:41] <MrSendova>  kcdehimposter: do ctrl-alt-f2 and then login into the terminal. Then, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[22:41] <kingbeowolf> histo, gnome disk utility using the benchmark funciton
[22:41] <kcdehimposter> Ok I will try that, but I followed this link :http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/12/upgrade-gnome-3-10-ubuntu-13-10
[22:41] <kcdehimposter> But the uninstall part didn't work for me
[22:41] <marknew> How do I disable GRUB.  I don't need it.
[22:42] <k1l_> !ppapurge | kcdehimposter
[22:42] <k1l_> marknew: do you have a bootloader besides grub?
[22:42] <histo> marknew: what are you going to use in place of it?
[22:42] <kcdehimposter> kil_: I tried ppa purge, and it doesn't work :(
[22:43] <k1l_> kcdehimposter: please put all that into a pastebin so we can see "what" is not working
[22:43] <marknew> Nothing.  I just want the computer to boot into Ubuntu when I turn on the power.
[22:43] <CooLBALL> im stuck with ubuntu installing kernel source
[22:43] <CooLBALL> how long does it take?
[22:43] <marknew> I have replaced Windows.
[22:43] <marknew> with Ubuntu.
[22:43] <histo> marknew: well you need grub then
[22:44] <k1l_> marknew: then set the timeout to 0. but if ubuntu is the only install it should not display grub
[22:44] <CooLBALL> how long can the installer take on kernel source?
[22:44] <k1l_> marknew: or run a "sudo update-grub" that will renew the grub menue and make ubuntu the nr.1
[22:44] <marknew> It displayed GRUB because there was bootloader information for Windows on a second hard drive.
[22:45] <histo> marknew: remove the windows entry and timeout and regenerate your grub.cfg
[22:45] <marknew> It was placed in a "System Reserved" partition on the second drive.
[22:45] <CooLBALL> please i am bugging out
[22:45] <wolfy1339> i checked out a post on askubuntu and they had TERM=xterm-color and mine is TERM=cygwin, how do i change that? Ubuntu Server 14.04, i added the alias ls for ls --color, uncommented the line with force
[22:45] <k1l_> marknew: you need grub for booting.
[22:45] <marknew> How do I remove the Windows entry from GRUB?  I'm very new to Linux.
[22:45] <wolfy1339> *force_colors yes
[22:46] <CooLBALL>  /boot/grub.conf
[22:46] <k1l_> marknew: run "sudo update-grub" that will write the new grub table and if windows is deleted from the disk it will scratch that
[22:46] <kingbeowolf> histo, gnome disk utility using the benchmark funciton
[22:47] <marknew> Thanks.  Is it safe to remove the "System Reserved" partition from the second hard drive?
[22:47] <kcdehimposter> kil_: Here is a paste of what happens when I try to do the uninstall: http://pastebin.com/PsL3Me6e
[22:47] <histo> k1l_: is os-prober enabled by default after installing?
[22:47] <histo> kingbeowolf: what sort of result are you getting and what are you expecting?
[22:47] <CooLBALL> i am bugging out please help me should  the installer take 20 minutes on something kernel source?
[22:47] <daftykins> marknew: you don't want to boot Windows anymore?
[22:47] <marknew> Correct.
[22:48] <daftykins> then that partition can go, yes - as long as GRUB isn't installed there
[22:48] <k1l_> histo: yes
[22:48] <marknew> How would I know that?
[22:48] <daftykins> pull the disk... does the other boot? :D
[22:48] <histo> marknew: how would you know what?
[22:48] <rodney77> Hi, old Ubuntu install disks I used to use had an option at the beginning where you could install or try ubuntu, or you could boot with these different flags (like nomodeset). I put the 14.04 installer on a USB stick and when I boot from it, it boots straight into the desktop. Is there a way I can still boot with flags?
[22:49] <k1l_> kcdehimposter: please show a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d" in a pastebin
[22:49] <marknew> OK, I'll try this.  Thanks.
[22:50] <kcdehimposter> k1l_: Here you go: http://pastebin.com/470fLhfZ
[22:51] <histo> !who | markthomas
[22:51] <fmShadow> Hi I installed 14.04 and also gnome fallback.  It seems I can't add any additional workspaces in the workspace switcher though.  When I try to add workspaces, It always only gives me 1 workspace.  Any ideas?
[22:53] <kingbeowolf> histo, i can't run the test as I am booted into my OS, but last time I ran it I got only about 500MBps
[22:53] <histo> kingbeowolf: and you're disappointed with that?
[22:53] <markthomas> histo, can I help you with something?
[22:55] <histo> markthomas: wrong hilight
[22:55] <kingbeowolf> histo, with 4 SSD disk yes
[22:58] <histo> kingbeowolf: http://lucatnt.com/2013/06/improve-software-raid-speed-on-linux/
[22:59] <histo> kingbeowolf: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-raid-increase-resync-rebuild-speed.html
[23:01] <k1l_> kcdehimposter: try a - instead of the / in the ppa name?
[23:02] <kcdehimposter> k1l_: It was unable to find the package
[23:02] <k1l_> did you already remove the packages?
[23:03] <kcdehimposter> k1l: How can I check? I don't think I have.
[23:03] <k1l_> see the apt log in /var/log
[23:04] <k1l_> well, need to leave now, gl
[23:04] <kcdehimposter> ok thanks
[23:06] <dcrk> Hello all
[23:07] <dcrk> I've installed ubuntu on an encrypted volume with unencryped /boot mounted (dm-crypt with luks). Can someone point me to how I configure the os to prompt me for password on boot?
[23:07] <saml> how can I lxc-create without sudo ?
[23:07] <saml> not as root
[23:09] <marknew> Is there a substitute for iTunes in Linux?  I want to sync with my iPod Touch.
[23:09] <kingsley> marknew: apt-cache search itunes
[23:10] <marknew> Is this done in Terminal?
[23:10] <ObrienDave> yes
[23:10] <marknew> Thanks very much. I have 14.04.  I'll give it a try.
[23:11] <histo> !ipod | marknew
[23:12] <histo> saml: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/lxc.html
[23:12] <saml> yup thanks
[23:13] <marknew> I had to hurry and copy the above info you provided so I could try this later.  Thanks.
[23:19] <smrtz|nix> I'm trying to get upstart to run a bash script as root at boot.  Can someone help me out please?
[23:20] <marknew> I have bought and paid for Dashlane, a password manager.  Will it work with Ubuntu 14.04, and if not, what are my alternatives?
[23:21] <ObrienDave> marknew, keepassx
[23:22] <marknew> What is "keepassx"
[23:23] <daftykins> based on your question is it not obvious?
[23:23] <dsoto> http://www.keepassx.org/
[23:24] <marknew> Sorry, never heard of it.  I'll take a look.
[23:27] <pavi45> how to access windows 8 uefi filesystem from ubuntu live cd ?
[23:28] <Deihmos> uefi file system?
[23:28] <Deihmos> fat32 partition?
[23:28] <ObrienDave> uefi is more like legacy BIOS
[23:30] <kcdehimposter> Does anyone know how I can switch my primary desktop environment? I think it's set as gnome, but I want to set it back to unity.
[23:31] <ObrienDave> should be able to select it from the logon screen
[23:32] <kcdehimposter> I have it switched partially over to the unity login scren, but I still get the loading gnome screen on startup. Unity is really glitchy and I can't see my desktop.
[23:32] <pavi45> Deihmos: I think NTFS , the one which comes default on those windows 8 machines . I had to manually select disable uefi boot and use normal boot to boot via a live usb  . but I cant access the filesystem
[23:33] <cody__> A while back I installed xmonad on my xubuntu install and have been using it ever since. I'd like to use xubuntu now though but it isn't working. I try to select it at the login screen and it tries to login then takes me back to the login screen.
[23:33] <cody__> I'm guessing maybe I hardcoded xmonad somewhere for some reason, but I'm not sure.
[23:36] <pavi45> Deihmos:  also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI tells about how to install ubuntu on uefi mode, but I am not interested in installing , I just wanna access those files from windows , back them up and format the damned windows 8 machine to freshly install ubuntu
[23:37] <daftykins> pavi45: what do you want to do with the EFI boot partition?
[23:39] <pavi45> daftykins: there are some files in windows C partition , I am not sure if its actually normal NTFS partition as I was unable to access the files.
[23:39] <pavi45> or am I getting it all wrong about uefi , windows8 ?
[23:40] <daftykins> pavi45: are you trying to backup the Windows install so you can put it back later?
[23:41] <ObrienDave> uefi is more like legacy BIOS not a file system
[23:41] <daftykins> there are still EFI specific partitions though
[23:42] <pavi45> ObrienDave: just one question , if there are EFI partitions can be accessed from ubuntu the normal way ?
[23:42] <daftykins> pavi45: tell us what you're trying to do, i think you're confused...
[23:42] <ObrienDave> that i don't know. wife has threatened me if i mess with her 8.1 laptop LOL
[23:43] <daftykins> ;)
[23:43] <ifellasleep> I'm very confused o_o
[23:43] <ifellasleep> live in a constant state of it lately
[23:43] <daftykins> ifellasleep: that's nice, but also off topic
[23:43] <ObrienDave> go back to sleep ;P
[23:43] <ifellasleep> kk!
[23:44] <pavi45> daftykins: my friends damned windows 8 is messed up . I just wanna backup his files and install ubuntu on that machine .
[23:44] <pavi45> First thing I wanna do is back up just some documents using the live cd , later I want to deal with the uefi installation issues.
[23:45] <daftykins> pavi45: so you should be able to just boot a LiveCD and mount any partition fine
[23:45] <ifellasleep> rephrase: ubuntu has left me in a constant state of confusion lately
[23:45] <ifellasleep> :D
[23:46] <pavi45> daftykins: it gave me some errors while mounting the partitions from live cd.
[23:46] <daftykins> pavi45: ok, do you want to share them via pastebin?
[23:47] <FuuqUmiist> is it possible to get a WD MyBook external hard drive to work on Ubuntu?
[23:47] <RandomGuy5432> perhaps you need a way to run chkdsk first?
[23:48] <ObrienDave> FuuqUmiist, i have 2 running on Xubuntu
[23:48] <celroc> FuuqUmiist: It should be, yes.  I use an external HD in Linux Mint
[23:48] <daftykins> FuuqUmiist: sure.
[23:48] <FuuqUmiist> the hard drive works on windows computers, but not on linux, the hard drive is password protected
[23:48] <FuuqUmiist> i think the problem might be the WB software, it only runs on windows
[23:48] <FuuqUmiist> WD*
[23:48] <daftykins> FuuqUmiist: oh you're using WD SmartWare to encrypt it, yeah i don't think that's going to happen
[23:49] <prageeth_> will it work on wine
[23:49] <daftykins> no
[23:49] <celroc> FuuqUmiist: Sorry.  I don't use the password protection feature on mine.  I don't have any experience to offer on that one
[23:49] <FuuqUmiist> the wine didn't work, might i should try un updated wine or something
[23:49] <ObrienDave> use Smartware to decrypt it on windows
[23:49] <daftykins> FuuqUmiist: i would consider it game over, decrypt or it's Windows only
[23:50] <FuuqUmiist> i think before i was able to unlock it with wine
[23:50] <prageeth_> why you can't now?
[23:51] <FuuqUmiist> i don't know, maybe it was an older version or something
[23:51] <ObrienDave> FuuqUmiist, http://askubuntu.com/questions/285267/how-can-i-get-my-western-digital-hd-to-work
[23:51] <prageeth_> i would decrypt my data with windows machine and leave without encrypting againa
[23:51] <prageeth_> sry again
[23:51] <FuuqUmiist> okay i'll try that out
[23:52] <prageeth_> cool
[23:52] <harry> so I remember installing ubuntu with the virtual drive stuff enabled. I got a new sata drive today. How do I raid them?
[23:53] <prageeth_> is anyone know about python celery
[23:53] <daftykins> LVM != RAID
[23:53] <morenoh149> prageeth_: what about it?
[23:53] <prageeth_> i'm trying to understand how to call  defined tasks from different server
[23:53] <morenoh149> daftykins: really? because I asked when I chose that option and ppl told me it would make a soft-raiding much simpler
[23:54] <daftykins> morenoh149: where are said people? :)
[23:55] <morenoh149> prageeth_: I would try #python. seems like an advanced use of python
[23:55] <morenoh149> daftykins: the ether ;)
[23:56] <morenoh149> pretty sure it was this very channel. but yeah looking up lvm now. seems like a softraid is doable
[23:57] <prageeth_> morenoh149 : thanks mate