=== chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [02:14] o gawd i hope they didn't take another look at my application yet, i've been uploading new versions with major fixes every 2 hours haha [02:21] Hello to anyone who listens. I was wondering where I could find the same script that reviews my click package for errors. [05:31] Setting Up .NET Development Environment in VirtualBox | http://askubuntu.com/q/485771 === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [06:09] setting up a development environment is barely doable on a real system [06:09] wouldn't even attempt on vbox haha [06:19] good morning [07:09] Why does not app update appear in Software Center? | http://askubuntu.com/q/485801 [07:17] Good Morning :) [07:19] morning [08:02] any plans on porting orca ? [08:06] JamesTait: do you know who I should ask about support for blind ppl ? like orca ? === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [08:16] dholbach: do you know if there are plans for a screenreader ? [08:17] justCarakas, I have no idea [08:17] justCarakas, might be worth asking on ubuntu-phone@ [08:17] oki [08:34] Good morning all; happy Friday and happy Dump The Pump Day! :-D [08:35] justCarakas, that's a reall good question. I have no idea. [08:42] Has anyone played with QtSensors on a Nexus 4? In particular, I wanted to play with TiltSensor, but I can't seem to get any readings from it, although Accelerometer seems to work. [08:44] JamesTait: I haven't I keep hopeing they won't implement the proximity sensor, because mine is broken :p [08:54] JamesTait: Elleo has [08:55] justCarakas, I had that problem on my old HTC Desire - made ending calls interesting. ;) [08:56] popey: I've just been using Accelerometer directly, I haven't done anything with TiltSensor [08:56] JamesTait: Yea, I had to map the powerdown button to end calls [08:57] but sometimes I have to spam it [08:57] Elleo, right, that's what I was thinking of doing as well. [08:57] I think for my purposes I can just ignore the z component. [09:32] popey, Good Morning just upgraded to utopic this morning and seems the WebKit message view is well....... black! :-( http://people.ubuntu.com/~dpniel/img/webkit_utopic.png [09:32] erk [09:34] DanChapman: wonder if it's a qt5.3 thing? [09:36] popey: yeah I was thinking the same, I'll see if dropping back to Qt 5.2 resolves it. I presume that would be an upstream bug? [09:37] possibly, but worth filing on our build [09:37] in case we messed it up [10:27] popey, the script you use to query Click Index, retrieve packages, install and run them - is that available somewhere? [10:30] JamesTait: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7673849/ [10:30] /home/alan/bin/get-all-clicks.py --credentials-file /home/alan/bin/certfile $TARGET [10:30] thats what i run [10:30] popey, you are a star, thank you. :) [10:30] np [10:31] popey, you and Rob Schroll are the only two non-app-scope users of the Index that I know about, and I'm trying to make sure I don't break it for you with our latest changes. :) [10:32] heh [10:32] good man! [10:36] DanChapman: oh I got some black stuff (inside popovers, even some buttons) with qt53 inside a vm [10:36] DanChapman: do you use a vm, or is this qt53 on ubuntu directly on your hardware? [10:38] timp i'm running directly on my hardware, it seems to be only the webview displaying black, I just checked all the popovers etc and they seem fine [10:39] t1mp: ^^ [10:40] hmm, interesting. I was suspecting everything that uses shaders broke for me [11:11] t1mp, popey seems setting WebView.experimental.transparentBackground is cause of the black screen. [11:13] popey: ping !! [11:13] popey: i have merged changes, could you check !! [11:16] ooh [11:18] mihir: which one? [11:19] https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni/ubuntu-calendar-app/1297739/+merge/221109 ? [11:19] popey: sorry forgot to pass MR, https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni/ubuntu-calendar-app/1297739/+merge/221109 [11:19] Yup [11:19] * popey looks [11:26] mihir: thanks, left a comment [11:28] popey: saw that, i need will need to speak to renato in this case [11:28] even i have observerd this scenario. === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === renato_ is now known as Guest34798 === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:58] popey i forgot to ask when is listview pull-to-refresh due to land, I have a patch to review from gcollurra which implements it but i'd rather wait for it in the SDK if it's soon [13:58] t1mp: ^ [14:00] DanChapman, popey the MR is here https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/pullToRefresh/+merge/219090 [14:00] it is not much work any more, but there are still some things that zsombi wants to change (or maybe he changed but didn't push his branch) [14:01] he is off today, I'll ask him Monday [14:01] thanks [14:01] if all goes well, we land it next week [14:02] t1mp: thanks [14:03] DanChapman: remind zsombi next week to hurry up :) [14:03] dholbach: yo, when the meeting will be held ? [14:04] daker, yo yo yo - at 15 UTC - in an hour [14:04] dholbach: ok thanks [14:04] :) [14:04] de rien, mon ami === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [14:15] Please Help - Ubuntu Erased Windows File Structure | http://askubuntu.com/q/485968 === oSoMoN_ is now known as oSoMoN === salem_ is now known as _salem === _salem is now known as salem_ === renato_ is now known as Guest14152 [17:19] Hello [18:02] RobertofOrange: Hello? [18:13] Hi [18:16] hello === emil is now known as Guest71427 [20:19] Hi, I have a problem with trying my apps on my nexus 7 - when I click devices in the Ubuntu sdk and open log, it says "Developer tools not installed", How can I install that? [20:22] balloons, ping [20:22] ahayzen_, pong [20:22] Guest71427: on your computer you need to apt-get install ubuntu-sdk [20:22] balloons, any idea what is going on here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1332570 [20:22] Ubuntu bug 1332570 in Ubuntu Music App "music_app.tests.test_music.TestMainWindow.test_next_previous failed on mako #91" [Medium,In progress] [20:22] Guest71427, ohh t1mp beat me :-) [20:22] Guest71427, also install phablet-tools [20:23] I'm running the ubuntu sdk now [20:23] balloons, has Qt5.3 broken something in the test or is it just a flaky test? [20:24] Guest71427: under devices, on the "device" tab, there is an option near the bottom that says "has developer mode enabled" [20:24] balloons, i ran it locally on my device and it was fine...i'll run again to double check [20:24] Guest71427: for me that's on.. I guess you can click the switch to install it? [20:24] it is ticked on [20:24] But phablet-tools wasnt installed - installing it now [20:24] Guest71427: /whois Guest71427 [20:24] oops :) [20:25] Guest71427: I have a "device kit" listed as installed at the bottom of that page.. [20:26] zbenjamin and bzoltan1 would be the experts for this, but it is already late in the evening for them. You can ask them on Monday [20:26] I hava a create buttpn, but it dosent work, my device freezes so I have to wipe it [20:27] Guest71427: I usually run phablet-config writable-image && phablet-click-test-setup to configure the device [20:28] balloons, and that test passed again on my device [20:28] ahayzen_, ohh you are back [20:28] ahayzen_, so vthompson left a comment on his thoughts [20:28] I'll assume he is correct, I left a comment also [20:28] balloons, think that was my ghost from earlier that disappeared [20:29] ahayzen_, ahh :-) [20:29] balloons, hah and proposed and branch ... [20:29] ahayzen_, hah! he's quick! [20:29] :) i did ping him earlier to take a look [20:30] balloons, he is fixing by removing the check that it is playing? [20:31] ahayzen_, yea, seems interesting [20:31] balloons, could we not just seek to near the start of the track? instead of dropping the check that it is playing [20:33] ahayzen_, I'm looking at another test atm, so I'll have to save comments till I look closer. But odds are there is a better way [20:33] it's worth discussing [20:33] balloons, he is suggesting to just drop checking the play status as we check in other places (and have other tests to check this) ... so tht would just resolve it for now? [20:34] emiram: 22:27:52 < t1mp> Guest71427: I usually run phablet-config writable-image && phablet-click-test-setup to configure the device [20:34] emiram: dunno if that works for you [20:35] * t1mp off [20:35] ahayzen_, play status is not a critical piece of the test so sure, it's reasonable to not assert about it [20:36] balloons, yeah agreed ... Victor suggests... ' one thing we could do is wait 5 second hit previous and then pause and hit previous to actually go back' [20:37] balloons, anyway ur busy at the moment i'll discuss with victor and come up with something [20:37] ahayzen_, I'll review it if needed. But yea, I think you've got it [20:38] balloons, cool thanks [20:38] if you can simplify the test, do it. [20:38] test only what you are after and nothing more [20:38] t1mp: when it is in the bootloader? === snwh is now known as EE439DX23 === EE439DX23 is now known as snwh === salem_ is now known as _salem [21:08] balloons, we plan to have two tests to test the previous functionality ... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7676761/ ... test1 is what victor's branch is now and should fix the issue of that test...do you want/need to approve as it is a small change (exactly as it was earlier) [21:11] ahayzen_, so that's interesting [21:11] * ahayzen_ has probably written horrible test plans [21:11] for test 2 would you select next again? [21:12] lol.. I'm just wondering what [21:12] alright, let's have a look at th etests [21:12] balloons, no ... if the track has been playing for more than 5 seconds then if you hit previous in the app it jumps to the start of the song (not going to previous) [21:13] * balloons is looking [21:13] ahayzen_, ahh.. [21:13] lol, I missed that in test 2 [21:13] wow [21:14] balloons, we'll do test2 in a future branch :) [21:14] balloons, ah :) [21:15] ahayzen_, ok, so looking at this, if you just remove the asserts.. that seems odd [21:16] balloons, we think that checking the isPlaying is causing a large enough delay for it to pass 5 seconds and therefore when you hit previous it is performing the wrong behaviour [21:16] balloons, but we could be wrong ;) [21:16] ahayzen_, glad you are here, hah [21:16] I was so slow in realizing what was going on [21:16] it's the trouble with jumping between things [21:16] ok, I'm on the same page ow [21:17] the issue is behavoir changes depending on how far the song is [21:17] balloons, yep [21:17] so I agree, I would use seek, certainly [21:17] balloons, so hitting next then straight away hitting pause should be enough? (taking out the check of isPlaying inbetween) [21:17] ahayzen_, I don't like that solution as much [21:18] in general you highlighted the problem that you are really wanting to check behavoir depending on time passed [21:18] balloons, ok...i'll see if we can seek... [21:18] ahayzen_, I mean if you just assume it's playing and it doesn't queue the test could still fail [21:19] I guess the goal is to make sure you understand what's happening if it fails. and that a failure is a sign of a real breakage [21:19] balloons, yep ...that is what made us decide to split the tests...but i agree the seeking could be better [21:20] ahayzen_, I also like the idea of both tests.. seems sane [21:20] * popey dreams of music_app tests with new songs [21:20] yeah [21:20] haha popey.. I have a selection I'd like to add [21:20] popey, are these lullaby's ? [21:20] anything === _salem is now known as salem_ [21:20] literally _anything_ would be better [21:21] i think we should just have tracks with a single tone at different freqs ... but tht is just my opinion :P [21:21] * ahayzen_ needs to do investigation of how other apps test the multiple different audio formats anyway [21:22] I wonder if sharelike with attribution is ok.. I suppose public domain music is best [21:30] * balloons answers his question.. cc with attribution seems like a no [21:51] Guys... i'm having this wierd issue where my postinst script modifies a configuration file in /etc/ and saves it (with python). The program doesn't end up working, and to fix it all i have to do is open the config file with nano, CHANGE NOTHING, and save it... and then is starts working... [21:52] i'm thinking there is something maybe with the uid of the postinst scrip that it doesn't like? but i am not very experienced with this uid stuff [21:58] * ahayzen returns from networking issues... [21:58] balloons, Victor has proposed a seek to 0 solution :) https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/music-app/fix-1332570-test_next_previous/+merge/223985 [22:20] what does this mean exactly E: sshtunnel: wrong-file-owner-uid-or-gid opt/ 1000/1000 [22:20] happens when i try to install the package with ubuntu software center (warning message) [22:21] http://bpaste.net/show/Si5DII7KZVaMIBGJk7AB/ [22:37] i love how these problems appear at random -.- === salem_ is now known as _salem [23:56] nevermind guys [23:56] i'm assuming it's irrelevant... dpkg -i sshtunnel.deb works fine