[03:47] <mapps> yay new graceland ep
[07:21] <directhex> shauno, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJqimlFcJsM ?
[07:27] <diddledan> directhex: you bad bad man
[07:42] <knightwise> mornin dudes :)
[07:44] <diddledan> narf
[07:47] <directhex> is it? :'(
[07:47] <dwatkins> snarf
[07:57] <diddledan> jee, brain what are we going to do tonight?
[08:00] <diddledan> with a room full of geeks the answer to that question probably isn't that far from the truth ;-)
[08:02] <dwatkins> we already took over the world, it's just getting out of control
[08:06] <diddledan> hmm
[08:18] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:20] <davmor2> morning bigcalm
[08:20] <bigcalm> Hi davmor2
[08:20] <bigcalm> Early start for you
[08:21] <davmor2> no I have a 09:30 call every morning :)
[08:21] <davmor2> I'm just gonna stay on tonight :)
[08:21] <foobarry> is stackoverflow dead?
[08:22] <foobarry> been offline for maintenance both times i've tried going to the site in 2 days
[08:22] <davmor2> foobarry: looks up to me
[08:22] <foobarry> oh!
[08:23] <foobarry> Stack Overflow is currently offline for maintenance
[08:23] <foobarry> ctrl-refresh ugh
[08:23] <foobarry> refresh wasn't sufficient
[08:23] <davmor2> foobarry: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/stackoverflow.com
[08:24] <foobarry> well it was up buit showing mainteance page.
[08:24] <foobarry> why the main page doesn't expire so easily is strange
[08:24] <foobarry> maint
[08:24] <diddledan> www.php.net was down earlier
[08:24] <davmor2> foobarry: I checked the site first and saw a display
[08:24] <foobarry> apparently the internet went down for many yesterday
[08:25] <foobarry> since facebook wasn't working for 15 mins
[08:25] <diddledan> 15 minutes is forever
[08:26] <diddledan> imagine the things you could do if facebook were operational for those 15 minutes
[08:26] <diddledan> btw, whatever happened to the good ol' "poke"?
[08:34] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday and happy Dump The Pump Day! :-D
[08:35] <bigcalm> You're getting rather obscure
[08:36] <JamesTait> I'm completely operational, and all my circuits are functioning perfectly.
[08:37] <foobarry> happy rumpy pumpy day? must tell the wife
[08:38] <bigcalm> She won't believe you. Wifes are good at doing that
[08:38] <DJones> Somebody will have a headache as well
[08:38] <TwistedLucidity> Joyous Sweetmorn, the 25th day of Confusion
[08:39] <TwistedLucidity> (What's "Dump the Pump" all about?)
[08:40] <JamesTait> Alternatives to fossil-fuel driven transportation, generally.
[08:41] <TwistedLucidity> So...feet and push-bikes then.
[08:42] <DJones> Could try the electric Harley Davidson
[08:43] <TwistedLucidity> Can't. Electric is fossil-fuel unless you can guarantee it was only charged by nuclear or renewable. :-)
[08:43] <TwistedLucidity> And you can't wear shoes. Plastic is fossil derived too. All leather ones would be OK.
[08:44] <TwistedLucidity> No polyester items of clothing.
[08:44] <TwistedLucidity> See....it gets hard.
[08:47] <bigcalm> Will need to extract the fillings from my teeth and pins from my bones as fossil fuel will have been used to in their production and transportation
[08:50] <drussell> bigcalm: not to mention all the food you've consumed through your lifetime, the majority of which was transported using fossil fuels
[08:50] <popey> Morning all
[08:51] <drussell> g'morning
[08:51] <bigcalm> o/
[08:51] <bigcalm> drussell: most of that food has been and gone though
[08:51] <DJones> drussell: On roads constructed using fossil fuels in production
[08:51] <dwatkins> can we start recycling all the plastic now?
[08:52] <drussell> bigcalm: but your body is still here, the thing that was built using that food ;o)
[08:54] <popey> We can fix that.
[08:55]  * diddledan prepares the DIY fake suicide kit
[08:55] <bigcalm> :O
[08:55] <diddledan> ACME FTW
[08:55] <bigcalm> Beer!
[08:55] <bigcalm> Is it 2nd August yet?
[08:55] <diddledan> nope
[08:55] <diddledan> what happens then?
[08:55] <diddledan> RAT?
[08:55] <bigcalm> Chuff chuff
[08:55] <bigcalm> !rat
[08:56] <diddledan> I'm not going :-(
[08:58] <bigcalm> I guess I should enjoy 5th - 12th July first
[09:00] <TwistedLucidity> That sounds awesome.
[09:01] <bigcalm> TwistedLucidity: there will likely be another one next year. Keep an eye on the mailing list and me spamming this channel ;)
[09:02] <TwistedLucidity> Ah, now I read "Sold out".
[09:03] <TwistedLucidity> I'm a dirty Kubuntu-using heretic though. It'd probably get flogged and strapped to the front of the train unless I repented and declared Unity the one ture DE. :-P
[09:03] <bigcalm> I think people are a little more open than that :)
[09:04]  * TwistedLucidity books for next year, starts printing Gentoo pamphlets.
[09:05] <diddledan> GENTOO!!! :-D
[09:06] <awilkins> Oooh
[09:06] <awilkins> RAT... may be able to actuall ygo
[09:07] <foobarry>  any given Docker image someone is asking you to run in your Docker setup can access ANY file on your host, e.g. dumping hosts /etc/shadow or other sensitive info, compromising security of the host and any other docker VM's on it
[09:08] <MartijnVdS> yay security
[09:08] <bigcalm> awilkins: it's sold out this year
[09:08] <bigcalm> awilkins: unless you can find somebody to sell you a ticket
[09:08] <awilkins> Oh well
[09:08] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: things like that don't really instill trust in "containers" vs "full VMs"
[09:09] <diddledan> really?!
[09:09] <diddledan> how is that possible?
[09:09] <bigcalm> awilkins: there are usually people selling their spare tickets on the gate of the evening. But there's no guarantee
[09:12] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: I thought the whole poinit of a Container was "chroot with bells on"?
[09:23] <awilkins> Are we saying that Docker in LXC can access /etc/shadow ?
[09:23] <awilkins> (forgive me if I'm mixing cloud thingies, I'm not entirely up to speed)
[09:23] <foobarry>   http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/19/docker_security
[09:23] <foobarry> sorry for reg link, i feel like reg=dailymail
[09:24] <awilkins> Hehehe, yeah, so do I now.
[09:25] <awilkins> So : it's fixed
[09:29] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: I wouldn't say "Daily Mail", but they're rarely "hard tech". At least they don't seem to take themselves too seriously.
[09:37] <popey> http://store.steampowered.com/app/227300/
[09:37] <popey> ooh, cheap
[09:39] <bigcalm> ...
[09:39] <bigcalm> Not sure what the hook is
[09:39] <diplo> I was thinking the same, but reviews seem good bigcalm :)
[09:40] <bigcalm> I like the music though
[09:41] <TwistedLucidity> Goat Simulator isn't on sale. Rats.
[09:41] <MooDoo> hello all
[09:41] <directhex> bigcalm, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOvcNMNQv2Q
[09:42] <bigcalm> directhex: perfect!
[09:43] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls
[09:45] <popey> I like the train sim games
[09:45] <popey> i like open world games too
[09:45] <popey> and ones where you can crash ☻
[09:45] <Seeker> o/
[09:45] <popey> Looking forward to No Man's Sky
[09:45] <popey> looks proper bo
[09:45] <foobarry> guildford massive
[09:46] <popey> Jungle is massive.
[09:46]  * popey is taking the day off next week.. to work on ubuntu stuff ;D
[09:46] <popey> ooh, octodad on sale
[09:47] <TwistedLucidity> You are taking the day of to do work. I think you fail to comprehend the meaning of "day off"
[09:47] <popey> i know ☻
[09:47] <foobarry> euro truck sim 2 is £2.24
[09:47] <dwatkins> I went to school in another country once during my half-term.
[09:48] <foobarry> how can i find out which process is bound to which cpu/core
[09:48] <MartijnVdS> are they bound?
[09:49] <popey> ooh, steam has "Remotely install" option.. is that new?
[09:49] <foobarry> or using
[09:49] <davmor2> popey: Oh you mean steam testing on Ubuntu right
[09:49] <dwatkins> foobarry: in "top", press f then j then return, it's the penultimate field
[09:50] <popey> davmor2: installing for later
[09:51] <foobarry> dwatkins: clever, cheers
[09:51] <popey> j doesnt work here
[09:52] <foobarry> WFM
[09:52] <foobarry> * J: P          = Last used cpu (SMP)
[09:53] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7673697/
[09:53] <dwatkins> this is the version I have: ii  procps                                                1:3.2.8-11ubuntu6.3                                   /proc file system utilities
[09:53] <foobarry> choose P field
[09:53] <foobarry> top right
[09:54] <popey> right, but j doesn't work
[09:54] <foobarry> i'm on 12.04 still
[09:54] <popey> 1:3.3.9-1ubuntu2
[09:54] <popey> interesting
[09:55] <foobarry> 	top: procps version 3.2.8
[09:55] <foobarry> yours has more awesome
[09:55] <dwatkins> Description:    Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
[09:56] <popey> heh, Euro Truck Simulator coming down the pipe at 11.5MB/s!
[09:56] <popey> HONK HONK!
[09:57] <foobarry> runs on linux?
[09:57] <popey> yes
[09:57] <MartijnVdS> ETS 2 too
[09:58] <popey> well,. 2 is what i got
[09:59] <MartijnVdS> Also.. X-Com now being available on Linux
[09:59] <MartijnVdS> Such awesome
[10:00] <foobarry> did you see the ETS2 gold bundle
[10:00] <foobarry> 2.99
[10:01] <foobarry> includes "going east"
[10:05] <diddledan> ooh, lotsa messages since I last looked
[10:28] <awilkins> Oh hooray, the HTML5 player on YouTube fixes the stupid "Focus goes to window on other screen so I stop being fullscreen" bug
[10:32] <bigcalm> I think flash still suffers from it though
[10:32] <awilkins> Whatever the last flash update did, the performance went back to being extra-sucky on Linux
[10:32] <awilkins> Noticably jerky
[10:33] <awilkins> And Firefox doesn't support HTML5 on Youtube....
[10:33] <awilkins> Which is a little sad
[10:34] <awilkins> But that means Chromium is now my browser for .. i) Youtube and ii) Spotify   because they don't work on Firefox (Spotify / Firefox doesn't work for me behind a SOCKS proxy, Chromium does)
[10:35] <foobarry> office365 kills firefox
[10:44] <foobarry> is it worth me learning how to do the rubiks cube?
[10:44] <foobarry> does it take long to learn?
[10:44] <dwatkins> I recently bought myself a 3x3x3 cube so I could learn how to solve it, foobarry.
[10:44] <dwatkins> There are a few simple techniques to learn, there's an excellent tutorial on youtube about it.
[10:45] <dwatkins> the techniques all boil down to the same movements, though: http://www.wikihow.com/Solve-a-Rubik's-Cube-(Easy-Move-Notation)
[10:46] <awilkins> I learned as a kid but I've forgotten most of the algorithms
[10:46] <dwatkins> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsQIoPyfQzM
[10:46] <awilkins> The ones I learned were pretty slow
[10:46] <dwatkins> I think that's the one.
[10:46] <awilkins> They concentrated on formulae that moved a single cubelet
[10:48] <bigcalm> Spotify client is for Spotify ;)
[10:49] <diddledan> there's some really funky stuff in the kindle firephone
[10:49] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w95kwXy_MOY
[10:52] <awilkins> Thing that vexes me about the spotify client is that it wants to be your only music player, but doesn't support local OGG files
[10:52] <awilkins> The majority of my local music is encoded as OGG Vorbis... and so are Spotify's streams!
[10:52] <awilkins> But it won't play them
[10:53] <davmor2> diddledan: yeah but do you really want a phone that is on fire?
[10:53] <bigcalm> Spotify is my only music player these days. Ever so rare that I listen to oggs or mps3. When I do, it's with VLC
[10:53] <bigcalm> I pay the subscription, I use it pretty much constantly
[11:44] <mapps> hmm
[11:44] <mapps> is it possible to get replacement p60s?
[11:44] <mapps> ive paid my student loan back but they wont stop taking every month without my p60..and work never gave me it..but im sure they'll say they did
[11:47] <mgdm> I believe you can
[11:47] <mgdm> might depend on HR being cooperative, though
[11:48] <MooDoo> I think if you contact your tax office you can get one.
[11:49] <MooDoo> aren't all the details you need on the p45 they gave you ?
[11:49] <MooDoo> mapps: - http://www.taxfix.co.uk/forum/articles/ow-to-get-a-copy-of-your-p60.html
[11:49] <mapps> hah p45 is end of employment?
[11:49] <mapps> so no:P
[11:50] <mapps> very funny ;] so email payroll
[11:52] <diddledan> my last p60 said that I am unable to get replacements if I lose it
[11:55] <mapps> oh
[11:55] <mapps> i didnt lose mine..never got given it ;[ and p45 is end f employment aka being sacked?
[11:55] <mapps> mean MooDoo
[11:55] <mapps> :)
[12:00] <MooDoo> I was just saying if you had your p45 then most of the details you need if you want a p60 are on it as far as i remember, so if it's just numbers then look at that.
[12:41] <mapps> MooDoo but isnt a p45 only got when you leave or get fired? thats all i mean - why would i have one:D
[12:42] <popey> you generally dont hae one
[12:42] <popey> *have
[12:42] <mapps> yea thought so
[12:42] <popey> you get given one when you leave your employment, and then give it to the next place
[12:43] <popey> so unless you're between jobs, you rarely have one, unless its a mistake
[13:09] <MooDoo> it: marcushaslam]
[13:09] <MooDoo> huh what?
[13:28] <mapps> so hot outside
[13:28] <mapps> sweating buckets after walking to sainsburys;/
[13:31] <dwatkins> simple solution: don't go to Sainsburys ;)
[13:31] <wheatley_ind_> There is that... oh... and open the windows!
[13:31] <dwatkins> sometimes opening the windows makes it worse
[13:31] <mapps> i was outside..!
[13:31] <mapps> yea
[13:32] <wheatley_ind_> Helps in a hot stuffy office :)
[13:32] <wheatley_ind_> Although now looks like rain here!!
[13:32] <dwatkins> reminds me of a joke about a genie in the desert who grants a wish of a car door so the guy can wind the window down when it gets hot
[13:32] <mapps> get flys  when i open windows too
[13:39] <foobarry> icedtea seems to fail for loads of remove viewer apps provided by vendors
[13:39] <foobarry> remote*
[13:41] <wheatley_ind_> foobarry, which vendors? I know some you can run the Java applet directly
[13:45] <brobostigon> http://pastebin.com/a5JE2qum anyone recognise this error, i cant find much information on it. please.
[13:46] <MooDoo> brobostigon: http://techblog.tgharold.com/2013/08/tls-sslread-failed-error14094418ssl.html
[13:46] <brobostigon> it only happens when i try and use roundcube to connect to dovecot, using k9-mail, no error.
[13:47] <foobarry> wheatley_ind_: APC, IBM, etc
[13:47] <foobarry> have an APC IP KVM switch
[13:48] <MooDoo> brobostigon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2177726
[13:48] <brobostigon> MooDoo: thank you,
[13:48] <MooDoo> no sure if any of them are relavent though
[13:52] <foobarry> net.sourceforge.jnlp.LaunchException: Fatal: Application Error: Unknown Main-Class. Could not determine the main class for this application.
[14:23] <TwistedLucidity> Dear ubuntu-type super-peoples; can I install from a live CD/USB when I have no keyboard or monitor on the target machine?
[14:23] <TwistedLucidity> I don't want to have to rearrange the office to do an install....
[14:25] <mapps> hmmm
[14:25] <mapps> i think yes but notusing the defaut
[14:25] <mapps> youd prob have to do some kinda config file
[14:28] <TwistedLucidity> mapps: I was afraid of that. Hmm....this monitor doe PIP, I wonder if the cables are long enough......
[14:30] <mapps> http://askubuntu.com/questions/122505/how-do-i-create-a-completely-unattended-install-of-ubuntu
[14:30] <TwistedLucidity> About 5cm too short...rats
[14:30] <mapps> this might help TwistedLucidity
[14:30] <mapps> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html
[14:31] <mapps> ah bit old may apply tho
[14:32] <TwistedLucidity> The config file stuff looks interesting. Might need that later. For now I'm going to see if I can shoogle this thing 5cm to the right
[14:33] <TwistedLucidity> Shoogle achieved!
[14:38] <mapps> so how you going to do it?:D
[14:38] <mapps> found out?
[14:44] <foobarry> mapps: what's your net profit losson the world cup so far
[14:58] <foobarry> anyone near a redhat 6 server please cat /etc/redhat-release please?
[14:59] <TwistedLucidity> mapps: Yeah, I moved some furniture and shifted in 5cm to the right. Now have a monitor connected. Spare keybaords etc located.
[14:59] <foobarry> ah, think i got one
[15:13] <dwatkins> TwistedLucidity: do you have a serial cable? ;)
[15:15] <bigcalm> Nooooooooooooo
[15:15] <bigcalm> My elephpant just threw itself off of my monitor
[15:15] <bigcalm> It's Friday, be happy wee elephpant
[15:19] <popey> phablet-shell
[15:19] <popey> bah!
[15:20] <dwatkins> bigcalm: pics or it didn't happen!
[15:30] <bigcalm> https://twitter.com/bigcalm/status/480009498116247553
[15:37] <dwatkins> hehe, a php elephant :D
[15:38] <bigcalm> An elePHPant
[15:38] <dwatkins> indeedly
[15:39] <dwatkins> bigcalm: where can you get them? my brother wants one
[15:39] <bigcalm> Not sure if they are available any more
[15:39] <dwatkins> ebay, then ;)
[15:39] <bigcalm> There are occational different colour ones from events or kickstarter
[15:40] <bigcalm> I'm currently waiting for a purple one from supporting PHPwomen
[15:40] <diddledan> I want a elephpant!
[15:40] <dwatkins> diddledan: http://www.elephpant.com/content/latest-available-elephpants
[15:42] <diddledan> I placed an order - they're gonna email me or so they say
[15:42] <dwatkins> good luck!
[16:03] <bigcalm> Is Octodad playable/enjoyable?
[16:05] <bigcalm> Or just plain weird
[16:12] <popey> it is both
[16:12] <popey> its playable, controls are hard, like surgeon sim
[16:13] <bigcalm> Eugh
[16:13] <TwistedLucidity> Anyone used devstack? Any ideas on why it's impossible to login with the correct user/pass? No errors, just doesn't leave login page
[16:13] <bigcalm> I found I sucked beyond belief with surgeon sim
[16:14] <bigcalm> I want it to be 6pm so I can knock off and play beatbuddy
[16:17] <Laney> spotify's "gapless playback" is a filthy lie
[16:18] <popey> +1
[16:18] <Laney> it doesn't even try to buffer the next song before getting onto it as far as I can tell
[16:20] <TwistedLucidity> I give up. Declaring devstack "unfit for purpose".
[16:32] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/zjzrob9svavbxca/IMG_20140620_142706.jpg
[16:32] <daftykins> woop woop, time to do the ghetto LGA775 upgrade ^_^
[16:34] <bigcalm> Dats the sound of the police
[16:35] <daftykins> ;)
[16:35] <Laney> first sustained use of fan this year
[16:35] <Laney> achievement unlocked
[16:35] <Laney> rocking out to the four seasons might have had something to do with it
[16:38] <diddledan> lol
[16:46] <popey> Tempted to light the bbq
[16:46] <popey> yes, screw it, lighting
[16:48] <davmor2> popey: I think you missed the n there dude, Lightning !  It's what you'll doom us too if you fire up the BBQ :D
[16:49] <popey> lit!
[16:49] <popey> well, lighting
[17:12] <mapps> world cup on
[17:12] <diddledan> grr
[17:22] <popey> chicken on bbq \o/
[17:26] <brobostigon> :)
[17:26] <brobostigon> beer o'clock
[17:31] <popey> indeed
[17:31]  * popey resists checking on the chicken
[17:32] <bigcalm> Anybody played Rage?
[17:33] <bigcalm> Video looks a little gory
 mapps: what's your net profit losson the world cup so far -- not sure
[17:50] <mapps> but +about 800 on this match
[17:50] <mapps> layed Italy/backed unders and backed costa rica at 1-0
[17:50] <mapps> free yen
[18:08] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9nci6hn5xlea1dj/serverpi.png
[18:08] <daftykins> aww yeah that's a nice little speed boost for an aged machine
[18:11] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jb42jrnp0zah91q/AACk5S6aAf8kfQM-nl7OG0uUa
[18:13] <MartijnVdS> hmm.. steam servers are hjaving a hard time
[18:13] <MartijnVdS> I'm only getting 1.4MB/s instead of the usual 11
[18:13] <daftykins> :)
[18:16] <daftykins> MartijnVdS: silly billy, buying steam sales is to collect, not to actually *play* ;)
[18:19] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: But.. X-Com!
[18:23] <daftykins> MartijnVdS: looked a bit basic to me
[18:24] <mapp> gah its so hot
[18:26] <daftykins> mapp: hehe
[18:27] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: it's a bit basic but it's so good
[18:27] <MartijnVdS> as in.. lots of the exciting
[18:35] <diddledan> mapp: unzip and stand in front of an open freezer
[18:40] <diddledan> when did I become an expert at PHP? I don't recall being good enough to be referred-to as such
[18:40] <diddledan> 'nother network: [19:38:36] DP110	is rusty n had to check with an expert
[18:50] <mapp> heh diddledan
[18:51] <mapp> i was paying like 2.62 a pack of marlboro in cz
[18:51] <mapp> and here 8.50
[18:51] <mapp> lol
[18:51] <diddledan> ouch
[18:51] <diddledan> gotta love the cancertax
[18:51] <mapp> seems like everyone smokes over there
[18:51] <mapp> every single hot girl is always lighting up
[18:51] <diddledan> heh
[18:51] <mapp> its totally diff tho..can smoke anywhere..even the staff behind bars smoke whilst serving you
[18:52] <mapp> can smoke in the airport etc lol
[18:52] <mapp> that and the fact we were paying 80p-1.50 a pint
[18:52] <mapp> id be dead by 40 ! :)
[18:53] <daftykins> i don't think i'd like that
[18:54] <mapp> i wouldnt be able to help myself..if i earnt my wages now and lived there
[18:54] <daftykins> hehe
[18:54] <mapp> there's a 24hr sports bar 2mins from another 24hr bar 5mins from where my mate lives..my mate went to watch the nba finals at 2am ..i couldnt be bothered..too tired
[18:54] <mapp> he gets home 830am LOL
[18:55] <daftykins> >_<
[18:55] <daftykins> that's something that sucks about the channel islands, stuff wraps up very early
[18:56] <daftykins> there's still no sunday trading too
[18:56] <mapp> i can imagine some bad nights out if we had a 24hr sports bar
[18:56] <mapp> bad enough the casinos serving till 630am;p
[18:56] <mapp> wakeup feeling horrendous
[18:56] <daftykins> :D
[18:56] <daftykins> pubs are done by midnight here
[18:56] <mapp> no 24hr supermarkets?
[18:58] <daftykins> no sir
[18:58] <daftykins> the big ones that got bought by Waitrose aren't allowed to open on Sunday due to their size
[18:58] <daftykins> ones by me in the town centre close at 10pm every night