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greg-gcmaloney: it's your fault00:38
greg-git's all your fault00:38
greg-gsqueezelite was running as root on startup, taking all available cpu, if I waited too long I couldn't even log in via tty100:38
greg-gthe good news is it wasn't a dead disk00:40
greg-gsemi-bad news: now I have an extra SSD00:40
greg-gI wonder where it would be getting started on boot from00:42
greg-gfor now: sudo apt-get remove squeezelite00:55
rick_h_greg-g: I'm still intel or bust01:42
rick_h_espcecially after the articles showing that some ssd makers used quality parts when first release to get good reviews, and then switched out later01:42
rick_h_and for the record, fuck cancer beyond any hope of ever being unfucked...thus ends my tirade of the day01:45
greg-g:(01:56
cmaloneygreg-g: Seriously? Squeezelite was part of the issue?02:20
cmaloneyI guess I've never run it as root so didn't know.02:21
greg-gI never have either!02:26
greg-gsomething was starting it as root on boot02:26
greg-g:/02:26
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cmaloneygreg-g: Did you install using the binary or a package?10:59
rick_h_morning11:09
cmaloneyGood morning11:43
cmaloneyHow's the morning so far?11:43
rick_h_sleepy11:43
cmaloneyLong drive back?11:45
rick_h_it wasn't too bad11:53
rick_h_a little over 4hr drive11:53
cmaloneyFun fun12:10
cmaloneyWhat time did you get back?12:10
rick_h_around 9ish12:19
cmaloneyNot bad, but that's still a long day. :)12:23
jrwrengreg-g: great deal and probably as god as samsung:http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX100-adapter-Internal-CT256MX100SSD1/dp/B00KFAGCWK%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-d-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB00KFAGCWK14:10
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/Rx4t5T - Amazon.com: Crucial MX100 256GB SATA 2.5" 7mm (with 9.5mm adapter) Internal Solid State Drive CT256MX100SSD1: Computers & Accessories14:10
brousch__I'm going to get this as my untangle firewall http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Celeron-Mini-ITX-Gigabyte-GA-C1007UN-D/dp/B00ESN1YXW/ref=sr_1_11?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1403270782&sr=1-11#productDetails14:23
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/EnTQ7D - Amazon.com : Intel Celeron 1007U Dual LAN Mini-ITX PC, 4GB, Morex T3410, Gigabyte GA-C1007UN-D : Desktop Computers : Computers & Accessories14:23
jrwrenuntangle?14:23
jrwrenbrousch__: that looks really cool. nice price. to bad its only dual core14:24
brousch__A firewall distro14:24
jrwrenits like a cheap nuc :)14:24
mrgoodcathappy friday14:25
brousch__I have untangle running on 2 computers right now. So I looked up the CPU benchmarks on them to figure out what minimum I needed for decent performance14:25
brousch__I could probably get away with an Atom D2550, but the celeron was cheaper14:26
brousch__And 2.5x more performance14:26
brousch__I have a 128GB Samsung Pro SSD sitting around for it, too14:28
jrwrenO_O14:37
jrwrenSSDs sitting around!  you must be rich!14:38
brousch__only 128GB14:38
jrwrenONLY14:38
mrgoodcatgreg-g has an SSD sitting around now too15:25
mrgoodcat256G15:25
mrgoodcatbrousch__: you run untangle at home?15:30
brousch__Now I do15:33
brousch__As of last night. I installed on that 8 year old computer, but it's running slowly and the nics are reporting a lot of errors15:33
brousch__I'm going to rip that out and run it on that mini-itx computer15:34
mrgoodcatdoesn't seem a bit much for home?15:34
brousch__untangle is a bit much? The free tier is quite nice. Firewall, virus scan, adblock, spyware block, web filter by category, phishing block, intrusion prevention, attack block, openvpn15:37
brousch__It's really all stuff you want in a home firewall, and easy to use15:38
cmaloneySeems a bit much overall15:38
brousch__who-house adblock makes it worth it by itself15:38
cmaloneyAll I want from a firewall is port blocking15:38
brousch__whole-house15:38
cmaloneyand a place to plonk facebook15:38
cmaloneyand DHCP with static addresses15:39
brousch__it has all of that15:39
brousch__and dns15:39
cmaloneyand a few other things but definitely not all the scanning and nanny-blocking15:39
brousch__and will email reports to you daily15:39
brousch__Each of those features is a separate "app" that you can install or remove15:40
brousch__Also configure or disable15:40
brousch__The email reports come as csv or pdf with nice charts15:41
greg-gsounds like my router15:42
greg-gminus the things I don't want ;)15:42
brousch__with a nice web gui :P15:43
greg-gmy router has a web gui15:43
greg-gand my NAS provides the openvpn (and more). i guess I don't see the appeal of yet another machine to manage :/15:44
brousch__It's not. You use it to replace your router15:44
brousch__So the same amount of maintenance15:44
greg-gbut then I need to buy some machine with 3+ gigE ports plus a decent/powerful wifi antannea?15:45
brousch__Doesn't do wifi15:46
greg-g... then you moved me from 1 to 2 machines15:46
brousch__I installed ubiquity wifi too. I'm not sure they count as machines15:47
brousch__Basically a bunch of WAPs you configure through any computer on the network15:47
rick_h_jcastro_: xps ordered. Looks like a month out16:20
greg-gxps?!?!16:20
rick_h_jcastro_: so we'll see I guess.16:20
greg-g:(16:20
rick_h_greg-g: yea, got the new xps13 DE, can't bring myself to get the lenovo, tired of the air sucking, and no other thing looks reasonable16:20
rick_h_I'm hoping yours was a lemon or something. Others speak highly of it.16:21
rick_h_but can't carry two laptops any more. So tired of it16:21
greg-gthe keyboard is even worse than the new lenovos16:22
rick_h_but not in any decent form factor16:22
greg-gyou like your macbook air?16:22
greg-gthen you'll like the xps ;)16:22
rick_h_no, I don't like the air except I love the overall size/etc16:22
* greg-g nods16:22
rick_h_but the keyboard, non-working camera, etc sucks16:22
greg-gso now you just need to lug the xps and your kinesis around :P16:22
rick_h_hah16:22
rick_h_pretty much16:22
greg-gI lug my kinesis on work trips16:23
greg-gand still just pack in one carry-on for 5 days16:23
rick_h_I picked up the freestyle and tempted to bring it on the next work trip16:23
rick_h_it's big16:23
rick_h_ouch, not sure how I'll do that though. Especially as now I've got camera gear to bring with me16:23
greg-goh yeah, that stuff is heavy too16:24
rick_h_thinking my london trip might be a checked bag :(16:24
rick_h_naw, I got small camera stuff16:24
rick_h_nice and light and small, but still, a carry on is just a carry on16:24
greg-gwell, one glass lens is heavier than the kinesis16:24
greg-gbig glass lens*16:24
greg-gbut you got that new small camera, so maybe not16:24
rick_h_http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0043VE28S/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 is my heaviest/biggets lense and I might leave it behind16:25
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/73l2OA - Amazon.com : Panasonic H-FS100300 Lumix G Vario 100-300mm F/4.0-5.6 MEGA O.I.S. Lens : Camera Lenses : Camera & Photo16:25
rick_h_just over 1lb16:25
greg-gwhat! amazon says the kinesis is 3.4 pounds16:26
* greg-g picks his up16:27
greg-gthat's 3.4 pounds?16:27
greg-ghuh16:27
jcastro_rick_h_, end of an era huh16:32
rick_h_jcastro_: yea, first non-thinkpad in something like 10yrs16:34
rick_h_jcastro_: ouch, looked at linked in to see when I graduated college (got into thinkpads in school) and realized it was 2000 when I got my first thinkpad16:37
rick_h_so first one in 14yrs :/16:37
jcastro_I too fear I have bought my last thinkpad. :(16:37
jcastro_I mean, the new X1 is literally a joke16:37
greg-g:(16:37
rick_h_yea, not even close or in consideration16:37
jcastro_like, if it's going to go that way, then might as well just spend $200 on a chromebook16:37
* greg-g hugs his x200s tightly16:37
jcastro_and save the grand for something useful16:37
rick_h_greg-g: yea that was one of the last good ones16:38
jcastro_rick_h_, it's like I woke up one day and developer laptops just died.16:38
jcastro_"chromebook, and ssh to a cloud"16:38
jcastro_is the new thing it seems16:38
rick_h_jcastro_: yep, the last bastion gave in.16:38
greg-gjcastro_: blame the ruby kids and their macbook airs16:38
rick_h_lol16:38
jcastro_greg-g, I think it's sad that no one else is even trying to compete with the air16:38
greg-gyeah, true16:38
rick_h_yea, the air has a winning size for things since you don't need the horsepower these days16:39
rick_h_I love carrying it around the house16:39
rick_h_but then USING it sucks so bad16:39
jcastro_well, a dual core i5 isn't exactly slow16:39
greg-gI mean, the pros are still standard issue in most engineering firms now, but at places like Eventbrite, you need to make a really strong case why you want something non-apple16:39
jcastro_lol16:39
greg-gremember Asheesh/paulproteous?16:40
jcastro_That sounds like a nightmare16:40
greg-ghe works at Eventbrite now, and had to make a huge deal to get a thinkpad16:40
jcastro_"prove to use that we shouldn't waste money." It's like ... what?16:40
greg-gor github, garauntee they have a similar thing16:40
greg-gthey wrote their own puppet-based macbook provisioning thingy16:41
greg-git's what happens with the startup mentality16:41
greg-g"startup" in scare quotes16:41
jcastro_shrug16:42
jcastro_hey man, THINK DIFFERENT16:42
greg-g:)16:42
jcastro_It's hard to argue against a $200 chromebook16:45
jcastro_If they just made a bit of a higher end one with like, backlit keyboards, etc.16:46
mrgoodcat<3 my 200$ chromebook17:00
mrgoodcatwell 300$ but it would have been 200$ if i didn't get the touchscreen17:00
rick_h_I was tempted to check out a pixel17:02
rick_h_but no go17:02
jcastro_too much17:02
jcastro_it's like 1200 still?17:02
rick_h_yep17:02
mrgoodcatyou can get them used significantly cheaper17:05
mrgoodcatwish my c720 had a nicer screen17:07
mrgoodcatthats my only complaint though17:07
jcastro_yeah I have a 72017:07
jcastro_I found that I need a backlit keyboard or something too17:07
mrgoodcatuse it in bed a lot?17:08
mrgoodcati do17:08
mrgoodcatbut i haven't had any problems seeing the keyboard. It's a comfortable enough size that I hardly ever even look at it17:08
brousch__Bah, you can get a used/refurb pixel for $85017:13
mrgoodcatsee thats not bad17:14
brousch__Also, how does this not compete with a macbook air? http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/tablets/thinkpad/thinkpad-helix/17:14
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/CrCJM - Tablet Laptop Hybrid: ThinkPad Helix Ultrabook Laptop - Free Shipping | Lenovo (US)17:14
mrgoodcatalthough not good enough to convince me to get that instead of this :)17:14
mrgoodcatby being like twice as heavy17:15
mrgoodcatand more expensive17:16
mrgoodcatand less shiny17:16
mrgoodcatthe shinyness is the really important part though17:16
brousch__Or the yoga 2 pro. same price as 13" air, about the same weight, qhd+ display http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/lenovo/yoga-laptop-series/17:25
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/R1tjSX - Lenovo Yoga Laptop Series | Convertible Entertainment Laptops | Lenovo (US)17:25
greg-g"entertainment" laptops?17:25
greg-gwtf world17:25
rick_h_ok, cracking up http://r.bmark.us/u/1c572f5b5720c817:26
rick_h_brousch__: the touchpad pad is reviewed to be horrible, the display is too high for a small screen, battery life fail, and more17:26
rick_h_brousch__: I did look into that one17:26
brousch__which one?17:26
rick_h_brousch__: the yoga17:26
brousch__too high?!17:27
rick_h_yea, I've got 4k in a 24" screen17:27
brousch__You can finally have that 2pt font you've always dreamed of17:27
rick_h_lol17:27
rick_h_you need graphics cycles and battery power to push that display...17:28
rick_h_it's why I'm anti the super res phones17:28
mrgoodcatmy dad has a yoga 217:28
mrgoodcatworks fine17:28
mrgoodcatscreen looks good17:28
mrgoodcathe hates it tho17:28
brousch__I love the idea of the helix. Detachable touch screen17:34
brousch__Only 1920x1080 on 11"17:35
jcastro_rick_h_, http://stackoverflow.com/a/16539475/46494118:03
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/TFMByV - word wrap - vim command to restructure/force text to 80 columns - Stack Overflow18:03
jcastro_will this enable me to force vim to always just reflow/hard wrap at 80?18:04
rick_h_jcastro_: yea, you want set textwidth=78 and set whichwrap=b,s,h,l,<,>,[,]18:05
greg-git does it as you type with those commands18:05
greg-gwhich means if you go back up and make a line shorter in a long paragraph, you'll need to reflow it18:05
jcastro_whoa whoa, explain whichwrap to me18:05
greg-goh, that ones new to me, too18:05
rick_h_http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Automatically_wrap_left_and_right18:06
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/VjRAbB - Automatically wrap left and right - Vim Tips Wiki18:06
rick_h_sorry, had wrap in the name and grabbed it, but more about cursor movement18:06
jcastro_ahhh18:06
jcastro_still useful though18:06
rick_h_so this makes vim act like it's a real paragraph18:06
rick_h_even though it's wrapped as new lines18:06
jcastro_why 78 btw?18:07
rick_h_because you don't want to bump right at 80 because of things like punctuation , : etc18:07
rick_h_hmm, actually though I think we limited to 79, and so I was set one char less than that18:07
rick_h_so maybe you want 79 instead of 7818:07
greg-gI set mine to 72 in my .vimrc-email which is invoked by mutt so people can quote me a couple times18:11
rick_h_yea, I do the same18:11
rick_h_http://paste.ubuntu.com/7675950/18:12
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/NyKp8u - Ubuntu Pastebin18:12
greg-ghuh18:13
rick_h_?18:14
greg-gnever seen augroup before18:15
* greg-g is still a young padawan in the ways of vim18:15
greg-galright, time for an early lunch/late breakfast18:15
rick_h_foruntately that gq command stuff will auto reflow replies with the starting > nicely so I reflow people's emails all the time when I reply18:17
havenstanceGreetings19:31
sydneyAnd salutations :p19:42
havenstancehow's everyone been? It's been a while19:46
gamerchick02cmaloney, are you ok? i saw your g+ update and have worried all afternoon.23:54

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