[00:38] <greg-g> cmaloney: it's your fault
[00:38] <greg-g> it's all your fault
[00:38] <greg-g> squeezelite was running as root on startup, taking all available cpu, if I waited too long I couldn't even log in via tty1
[00:40] <greg-g> the good news is it wasn't a dead disk
[00:40] <greg-g> semi-bad news: now I have an extra SSD
[00:42] <greg-g> I wonder where it would be getting started on boot from
[00:55] <greg-g> for now: sudo apt-get remove squeezelite
[01:42] <rick_h_> greg-g: I'm still intel or bust
[01:42] <rick_h_> espcecially after the articles showing that some ssd makers used quality parts when first release to get good reviews, and then switched out later
[01:45] <rick_h_> and for the record, fuck cancer beyond any hope of ever being unfucked...thus ends my tirade of the day
[01:56] <greg-g> :(
[02:20] <cmaloney> greg-g: Seriously? Squeezelite was part of the issue?
[02:21] <cmaloney> I guess I've never run it as root so didn't know.
[02:26] <greg-g> I never have either!
[02:26] <greg-g> something was starting it as root on boot
[02:26] <greg-g> :/
[10:59] <cmaloney> greg-g: Did you install using the binary or a package?
[11:09] <rick_h_> morning
[11:43] <cmaloney> Good morning
[11:43] <cmaloney> How's the morning so far?
[11:43] <rick_h_> sleepy
[11:45] <cmaloney> Long drive back?
[11:53] <rick_h_> it wasn't too bad
[11:53] <rick_h_> a little over 4hr drive
[12:10] <cmaloney> Fun fun
[12:10] <cmaloney> What time did you get back?
[12:19] <rick_h_> around 9ish
[12:23] <cmaloney> Not bad, but that's still a long day. :)
[14:10] <jrwren> greg-g: great deal and probably as god as samsung:http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX100-adapter-Internal-CT256MX100SSD1/dp/B00KFAGCWK%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-d-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB00KFAGCWK
[14:10] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/Rx4t5T - Amazon.com: Crucial MX100 256GB SATA 2.5" 7mm (with 9.5mm adapter) Internal Solid State Drive CT256MX100SSD1: Computers & Accessories
[14:23] <brousch__> I'm going to get this as my untangle firewall http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Celeron-Mini-ITX-Gigabyte-GA-C1007UN-D/dp/B00ESN1YXW/ref=sr_1_11?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1403270782&sr=1-11#productDetails
[14:23] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/EnTQ7D - Amazon.com : Intel Celeron 1007U Dual LAN Mini-ITX PC, 4GB, Morex T3410, Gigabyte GA-C1007UN-D : Desktop Computers : Computers & Accessories
[14:23] <jrwren> untangle?
[14:24] <jrwren> brousch__: that looks really cool. nice price. to bad its only dual core
[14:24] <brousch__> A firewall distro
[14:24] <jrwren> its like a cheap nuc :)
[14:25] <mrgoodcat> happy friday
[14:25] <brousch__> I have untangle running on 2 computers right now. So I looked up the CPU benchmarks on them to figure out what minimum I needed for decent performance
[14:26] <brousch__> I could probably get away with an Atom D2550, but the celeron was cheaper
[14:26] <brousch__> And 2.5x more performance
[14:28] <brousch__> I have a 128GB Samsung Pro SSD sitting around for it, too
[14:37] <jrwren> O_O
[14:38] <jrwren> SSDs sitting around!  you must be rich!
[14:38] <brousch__> only 128GB
[14:38] <jrwren> ONLY
[15:25] <mrgoodcat> greg-g has an SSD sitting around now too
[15:25] <mrgoodcat> 256G
[15:30] <mrgoodcat> brousch__: you run untangle at home?
[15:33] <brousch__> Now I do
[15:33] <brousch__> As of last night. I installed on that 8 year old computer, but it's running slowly and the nics are reporting a lot of errors
[15:34] <brousch__> I'm going to rip that out and run it on that mini-itx computer
[15:34] <mrgoodcat> doesn't seem a bit much for home?
[15:37] <brousch__> untangle is a bit much? The free tier is quite nice. Firewall, virus scan, adblock, spyware block, web filter by category, phishing block, intrusion prevention, attack block, openvpn
[15:38] <brousch__> It's really all stuff you want in a home firewall, and easy to use
[15:38] <cmaloney> Seems a bit much overall
[15:38] <brousch__> who-house adblock makes it worth it by itself
[15:38] <cmaloney> All I want from a firewall is port blocking
[15:38] <brousch__> whole-house
[15:38] <cmaloney> and a place to plonk facebook
[15:39] <cmaloney> and DHCP with static addresses
[15:39] <brousch__> it has all of that
[15:39] <brousch__> and dns
[15:39] <cmaloney> and a few other things but definitely not all the scanning and nanny-blocking
[15:39] <brousch__> and will email reports to you daily
[15:40] <brousch__> Each of those features is a separate "app" that you can install or remove
[15:40] <brousch__> Also configure or disable
[15:41] <brousch__> The email reports come as csv or pdf with nice charts
[15:42] <greg-g> sounds like my router
[15:42] <greg-g> minus the things I don't want ;)
[15:43] <brousch__> with a nice web gui :P
[15:43] <greg-g> my router has a web gui
[15:44] <greg-g> and my NAS provides the openvpn (and more). i guess I don't see the appeal of yet another machine to manage :/
[15:44] <brousch__> It's not. You use it to replace your router
[15:44] <brousch__> So the same amount of maintenance
[15:45] <greg-g> but then I need to buy some machine with 3+ gigE ports plus a decent/powerful wifi antannea?
[15:46] <brousch__> Doesn't do wifi
[15:46] <greg-g> ... then you moved me from 1 to 2 machines
[15:47] <brousch__> I installed ubiquity wifi too. I'm not sure they count as machines
[15:47] <brousch__> Basically a bunch of WAPs you configure through any computer on the network
[16:20] <rick_h_> jcastro_: xps ordered. Looks like a month out
[16:20] <greg-g> xps?!?!
[16:20] <rick_h_> jcastro_: so we'll see I guess.
[16:20] <greg-g> :(
[16:20] <rick_h_> greg-g: yea, got the new xps13 DE, can't bring myself to get the lenovo, tired of the air sucking, and no other thing looks reasonable
[16:21] <rick_h_> I'm hoping yours was a lemon or something. Others speak highly of it.
[16:21] <rick_h_> but can't carry two laptops any more. So tired of it
[16:22] <greg-g> the keyboard is even worse than the new lenovos
[16:22] <rick_h_> but not in any decent form factor
[16:22] <greg-g> you like your macbook air?
[16:22] <greg-g> then you'll like the xps ;)
[16:22] <rick_h_> no, I don't like the air except I love the overall size/etc
[16:22]  * greg-g nods
[16:22] <rick_h_> but the keyboard, non-working camera, etc sucks
[16:22] <greg-g> so now you just need to lug the xps and your kinesis around :P
[16:22] <rick_h_> hah
[16:22] <rick_h_> pretty much
[16:23] <greg-g> I lug my kinesis on work trips
[16:23] <greg-g> and still just pack in one carry-on for 5 days
[16:23] <rick_h_> I picked up the freestyle and tempted to bring it on the next work trip
[16:23] <rick_h_> it's big
[16:23] <rick_h_> ouch, not sure how I'll do that though. Especially as now I've got camera gear to bring with me
[16:24] <greg-g> oh yeah, that stuff is heavy too
[16:24] <rick_h_> thinking my london trip might be a checked bag :(
[16:24] <rick_h_> naw, I got small camera stuff
[16:24] <rick_h_> nice and light and small, but still, a carry on is just a carry on
[16:24] <greg-g> well, one glass lens is heavier than the kinesis
[16:24] <greg-g> big glass lens*
[16:24] <greg-g> but you got that new small camera, so maybe not
[16:25] <rick_h_> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0043VE28S/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 is my heaviest/biggets lense and I might leave it behind
[16:25] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/73l2OA - Amazon.com : Panasonic H-FS100300 Lumix G Vario 100-300mm F/4.0-5.6 MEGA O.I.S. Lens : Camera Lenses : Camera & Photo
[16:25] <rick_h_> just over 1lb
[16:26] <greg-g> what! amazon says the kinesis is 3.4 pounds
[16:27]  * greg-g picks his up
[16:27] <greg-g> that's 3.4 pounds?
[16:27] <greg-g> huh
[16:32] <jcastro_> rick_h_, end of an era huh
[16:34] <rick_h_> jcastro_: yea, first non-thinkpad in something like 10yrs
[16:37] <rick_h_> jcastro_: ouch, looked at linked in to see when I graduated college (got into thinkpads in school) and realized it was 2000 when I got my first thinkpad
[16:37] <rick_h_> so first one in 14yrs :/
[16:37] <jcastro_> I too fear I have bought my last thinkpad. :(
[16:37] <jcastro_> I mean, the new X1 is literally a joke
[16:37] <greg-g> :(
[16:37] <rick_h_> yea, not even close or in consideration
[16:37] <jcastro_> like, if it's going to go that way, then might as well just spend $200 on a chromebook
[16:37]  * greg-g hugs his x200s tightly
[16:37] <jcastro_> and save the grand for something useful
[16:38] <rick_h_> greg-g: yea that was one of the last good ones
[16:38] <jcastro_> rick_h_, it's like I woke up one day and developer laptops just died.
[16:38] <jcastro_> "chromebook, and ssh to a cloud"
[16:38] <jcastro_> is the new thing it seems
[16:38] <rick_h_> jcastro_: yep, the last bastion gave in.
[16:38] <greg-g> jcastro_: blame the ruby kids and their macbook airs
[16:38] <rick_h_> lol
[16:38] <jcastro_> greg-g, I think it's sad that no one else is even trying to compete with the air
[16:38] <greg-g> yeah, true
[16:39] <rick_h_> yea, the air has a winning size for things since you don't need the horsepower these days
[16:39] <rick_h_> I love carrying it around the house
[16:39] <rick_h_> but then USING it sucks so bad
[16:39] <jcastro_> well, a dual core i5 isn't exactly slow
[16:39] <greg-g> I mean, the pros are still standard issue in most engineering firms now, but at places like Eventbrite, you need to make a really strong case why you want something non-apple
[16:39] <jcastro_> lol
[16:40] <greg-g> remember Asheesh/paulproteous?
[16:40] <jcastro_> That sounds like a nightmare
[16:40] <greg-g> he works at Eventbrite now, and had to make a huge deal to get a thinkpad
[16:40] <jcastro_> "prove to use that we shouldn't waste money." It's like ... what?
[16:40] <greg-g> or github, garauntee they have a similar thing
[16:41] <greg-g> they wrote their own puppet-based macbook provisioning thingy
[16:41] <greg-g> it's what happens with the startup mentality
[16:41] <greg-g> "startup" in scare quotes
[16:42] <jcastro_> shrug
[16:42] <jcastro_> hey man, THINK DIFFERENT
[16:42] <greg-g> :)
[16:45] <jcastro_> It's hard to argue against a $200 chromebook
[16:46] <jcastro_> If they just made a bit of a higher end one with like, backlit keyboards, etc.
[17:00] <mrgoodcat> <3 my 200$ chromebook
[17:00] <mrgoodcat> well 300$ but it would have been 200$ if i didn't get the touchscreen
[17:02] <rick_h_> I was tempted to check out a pixel
[17:02] <rick_h_> but no go
[17:02] <jcastro_> too much
[17:02] <jcastro_> it's like 1200 still?
[17:02] <rick_h_> yep
[17:05] <mrgoodcat> you can get them used significantly cheaper
[17:07] <mrgoodcat> wish my c720 had a nicer screen
[17:07] <mrgoodcat> thats my only complaint though
[17:07] <jcastro_> yeah I have a 720
[17:07] <jcastro_> I found that I need a backlit keyboard or something too
[17:08] <mrgoodcat> use it in bed a lot?
[17:08] <mrgoodcat> i do
[17:08] <mrgoodcat> but i haven't had any problems seeing the keyboard. It's a comfortable enough size that I hardly ever even look at it
[17:13] <brousch__> Bah, you can get a used/refurb pixel for $850
[17:14] <mrgoodcat> see thats not bad
[17:14] <brousch__> Also, how does this not compete with a macbook air? http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/tablets/thinkpad/thinkpad-helix/
[17:14] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/CrCJM - Tablet Laptop Hybrid: ThinkPad Helix Ultrabook Laptop - Free Shipping | Lenovo (US)
[17:14] <mrgoodcat> although not good enough to convince me to get that instead of this :)
[17:15] <mrgoodcat> by being like twice as heavy
[17:16] <mrgoodcat> and more expensive
[17:16] <mrgoodcat> and less shiny
[17:16] <mrgoodcat> the shinyness is the really important part though
[17:25] <brousch__> Or the yoga 2 pro. same price as 13" air, about the same weight, qhd+ display http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/lenovo/yoga-laptop-series/
[17:25] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/R1tjSX - Lenovo Yoga Laptop Series | Convertible Entertainment Laptops | Lenovo (US)
[17:25] <greg-g> "entertainment" laptops?
[17:25] <greg-g> wtf world
[17:26] <rick_h_> ok, cracking up http://r.bmark.us/u/1c572f5b5720c8
[17:26] <rick_h_> brousch__: the touchpad pad is reviewed to be horrible, the display is too high for a small screen, battery life fail, and more
[17:26] <rick_h_> brousch__: I did look into that one
[17:26] <brousch__> which one?
[17:26] <rick_h_> brousch__: the yoga
[17:27] <brousch__> too high?!
[17:27] <rick_h_> yea, I've got 4k in a 24" screen
[17:27] <brousch__> You can finally have that 2pt font you've always dreamed of
[17:27] <rick_h_> lol
[17:28] <rick_h_> you need graphics cycles and battery power to push that display...
[17:28] <rick_h_> it's why I'm anti the super res phones
[17:28] <mrgoodcat> my dad has a yoga 2
[17:28] <mrgoodcat> works fine
[17:28] <mrgoodcat> screen looks good
[17:28] <mrgoodcat> he hates it tho
[17:34] <brousch__> I love the idea of the helix. Detachable touch screen
[17:35] <brousch__> Only 1920x1080 on 11"
[18:03] <jcastro_> rick_h_, http://stackoverflow.com/a/16539475/464941
[18:03] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/TFMByV - word wrap - vim command to restructure/force text to 80 columns - Stack Overflow
[18:04] <jcastro_> will this enable me to force vim to always just reflow/hard wrap at 80?
[18:05] <rick_h_> jcastro_: yea, you want set textwidth=78 and set whichwrap=b,s,h,l,<,>,[,]
[18:05] <greg-g> it does it as you type with those commands
[18:05] <greg-g> which means if you go back up and make a line shorter in a long paragraph, you'll need to reflow it
[18:05] <jcastro_> whoa whoa, explain whichwrap to me
[18:05] <greg-g> oh, that ones new to me, too
[18:06] <rick_h_> http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Automatically_wrap_left_and_right
[18:06] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/VjRAbB - Automatically wrap left and right - Vim Tips Wiki
[18:06] <rick_h_> sorry, had wrap in the name and grabbed it, but more about cursor movement
[18:06] <jcastro_> ahhh
[18:06] <jcastro_> still useful though
[18:06] <rick_h_> so this makes vim act like it's a real paragraph
[18:06] <rick_h_> even though it's wrapped as new lines
[18:07] <jcastro_> why 78 btw?
[18:07] <rick_h_> because you don't want to bump right at 80 because of things like punctuation , : etc
[18:07] <rick_h_> hmm, actually though I think we limited to 79, and so I was set one char less than that
[18:07] <rick_h_> so maybe you want 79 instead of 78
[18:11] <greg-g> I set mine to 72 in my .vimrc-email which is invoked by mutt so people can quote me a couple times
[18:11] <rick_h_> yea, I do the same
[18:12] <rick_h_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7675950/
[18:12] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/NyKp8u - Ubuntu Pastebin
[18:13] <greg-g> huh
[18:14] <rick_h_> ?
[18:15] <greg-g> never seen augroup before
[18:15]  * greg-g is still a young padawan in the ways of vim
[18:15] <greg-g> alright, time for an early lunch/late breakfast
[18:17] <rick_h_> foruntately that gq command stuff will auto reflow replies with the starting > nicely so I reflow people's emails all the time when I reply
[19:31] <havenstance> Greetings
[19:42] <sydney> And salutations :p
[19:46] <havenstance> how's everyone been? It's been a while
[23:54] <gamerchick02> cmaloney, are you ok? i saw your g+ update and have worried all afternoon.