[10:18] Is it possible to downgrade Xorg in 14.04 to the version shipped in 12.04.0, so that all the cards that need XAA are supported? === work_alkisg is now known as alkisg [10:24] that's called installing 12.04 [10:27] jcristau: it's not the same, e.g. 12.04 doesn't support newer CPUs, printers etc [10:31] newer cpu but 15 year old gpu? [10:31] Yup, sorry, 1000+ schools with that scenario :-/ [10:32] eww [10:33] It's not only the CPU though, we could stay with 12.04 and the -lts-trusty kernel, but we also have printers that are not supported by the older libsane-hpaio, or we want the latest edu* packages, etc... [10:33] Anyway, is downgrading xorg possible? [10:33] Or it's out of the question? [10:35] alkisg: what gpus are we talking about? [10:36] alkisg: i don't think it's really reasonable [10:36] plus they might be better off with shadowfb than xaa anyway, since a recent cpu is oh so much faster than those gpus [10:36] tseliot: many many sis (some of them crashing even with the latest patch for exa), some s3virge, trident... [10:37] * alkisg searches for a list of xaa-only cards to see which of them are found in school labs here... [10:37] alkisg: it's probably easier to put libsane and the edu packages in a PPA for Precise, and have the computers use them [10:38] Gotcha. Thank you guys, we already have a PPA where we put newer versions of packages, we'll put more packages there [10:38] Ah, is the 12.04 with stock xorg + the -lts-trusty kernel a bit reasonable? [10:38] that should be fine i would say [10:39] yes, it should work [10:39] Thanks! :) === alkisg is now known as work_alkisg [19:11] xorg lts-trusty is in -proposed. Is that already mature enough to be pushable? (/me "accidentially" migrated his fleet to lts-saucy, and that's to be deprecated soonish anyway...) [20:11] "works for me" but it probably wont go through major testing till closer to the august 7th release :) mlankhorst might know whats holding it up from getting into -updates or if there are any problems with it currently