[10:18] <work_alkisg> Is it possible to downgrade Xorg in 14.04 to the version shipped in 12.04.0, so that all the cards that need XAA are supported?
[10:24] <jcristau> that's called installing 12.04
[10:27] <alkisg> jcristau: it's not the same, e.g. 12.04 doesn't support newer CPUs, printers etc
[10:31] <jcristau> newer cpu but 15 year old gpu?
[10:31] <alkisg> Yup, sorry, 1000+ schools with that scenario :-/
[10:32] <jcristau> eww
[10:33] <alkisg> It's not only the CPU though, we could stay with 12.04 and the -lts-trusty kernel, but we also have printers that are not supported by the older libsane-hpaio, or we want the latest edu* packages, etc...
[10:33] <alkisg> Anyway, is downgrading xorg possible?
[10:33] <alkisg> Or it's out of the question?
[10:35] <tseliot> alkisg: what gpus are we talking about?
[10:36] <jcristau> alkisg: i don't think it's really reasonable
[10:36] <jcristau> plus they might be better off with shadowfb than xaa anyway, since a recent cpu is oh so much faster than those gpus
[10:36] <alkisg> tseliot: many many sis (some of them crashing even with the latest patch for exa), some s3virge, trident...
[10:37]  * alkisg searches for a list of xaa-only cards to see which of them are found in school labs here...
[10:37] <tseliot> alkisg: it's probably easier to put libsane and the edu packages in a PPA for Precise, and have the computers use them
[10:38] <alkisg> Gotcha. Thank you guys, we already have a PPA where we put newer versions of packages, we'll put more packages there
[10:38] <alkisg> Ah, is the 12.04 with stock xorg + the -lts-trusty kernel a bit reasonable?
[10:38] <jcristau> that should be fine i would say
[10:39] <tseliot> yes, it should work
[10:39] <alkisg> Thanks! :)
[19:11] <pkern> xorg lts-trusty is in -proposed. Is that already mature enough to be pushable? (/me "accidentially" migrated his fleet to lts-saucy, and that's to be deprecated soonish anyway...)
[20:11] <Sarvatt> "works for me" but it probably wont go through major testing till closer to the august 7th release :) mlankhorst might know whats holding it up from getting into -updates or if there are any problems with it currently