[00:00] <mojtaba> Hi, I have installed VB and installed fedora in it. I am in seamless mode but I can not see any of fedora. Does anybody know what is the problem? (I seen in youtube people installed windows in VB and there were windows start menu in the top.) But I guess the problem is with unity and Gnome3.
[00:00] <mojtaba> Any idea is highly appreciated.
[00:01] <istvan> üdv
[00:01] <daftykins> 'VB' ?
[00:02] <daftykins> ah vbox
[00:02] <daftykins> mojtaba: this isn't fedora support
[00:03] <mojtaba> daftykins: half of the problem is with unity. But anyway I will ask the same in fedora, they will say the same.
[00:04] <mojtaba> Any hint is highly appreciated.
[00:04] <daftykins> mojtaba: try virtualbox channels too
[00:05] <ObrienDave> mojtaba, try changing the seamless mode to scaled
[00:06] <ObrienDave> or fixed size mode
[00:06] <Beldar> mojtaba, There is a #virtualbox channel as well
[00:06] <morenoh149> are the alternate installs discontinued? e.g. ubuntu-6.10-alternate-amd64.iso
[00:06] <daftykins> yes
[00:06] <Beldar> morenoh149, from 12.10 yes
[00:06] <jrib> morenoh149: yes, why do you want it?
[00:07] <morenoh149> I need a live disc with the raid software mdamd
[00:07] <daftykins> software can be installed in live sessions
[00:07] <morenoh149> guess I'll do that then
[00:08] <mojtaba> No one in #vbox. no answer to my question here.
[00:08] <morenoh149> I'm following this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=408461 think it's still good? was made in '07
[00:08] <Guest40109> anyone know how to get past or restore apt-get update in xubuntu 14.04?
[00:08] <morenoh149> mojtaba: you mean virtualbox?
[00:08] <ObrienDave> morenoh149, don't know if this will help you http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[00:09] <mojtaba> morenoh149: the channel is #vbox
[00:09] <morenoh149> ObrienDave: nah. I'll just use the latest live disc and apt-get mdamd if it doesn't have it
[00:09] <jrib> !raid | morenoh149
[00:11] <srachit> Hello there!
[00:11] <srachit> I needed help with my laptop if anyone is free
[00:12] <srachit> I own a windows 8 laptop
[00:12] <daftykins> ask away on one line
[00:12] <srachit> and for months now I have had a ubuntu partition
[00:12] <srachit> I always used ubuntu and not my windows
[00:12] <daftykins> stop pressing enter so much
[00:12] <ifellasleep> lol
[00:13] <srachit> Yesterday I logged into my windows and it said I have a bios update, I did the update and ever since it does not open up onto the grub menu but directly into windows
[00:13] <srachit> How should I fix this?
[00:13] <morenoh149> mojtaba: so you can't see any of fedora in virtualbox?
[00:13] <ObrienDave> srachit, can you get to the F8 menu?
[00:13] <morenoh149> srachit: fix your grub install. google that
[00:14] <morenoh149> windows writes over the grub stuff all the time
[00:14] <mojtaba> morenoh149: No
[00:14] <srachit> Okay thanks morenoh149! ObrienDave I think i can
[00:14] <ObrienDave> see if you can get to dual boot through F8
[00:14] <srachit> morenoh149: once I fix the grub will my data on my linux system still be there?
[00:14] <ObrienDave> yes
[00:15] <celroc> srachit: If you have just one hard drive, this article should work: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[00:15] <srachit> Okay, thanks guys! I'll look into that now! Thanks a lot celroc, ObrienDave and morenoh149
[00:19] <CooLBALL> I need ubuntu to install without a swap partition
[00:19] <ObrienDave> don't install it, easy peasy
[00:19] <ObrienDave> you don't have to have the swap
[00:22] <morenoh149> can I just say I'm glad to see a new lts release. pretty exciting
[00:22] <CooLBALL> okay how do I tell ubuntu that I dont want a swap?
[00:22] <morenoh149> CooLBALL: it'll just not
[00:22] <ObrienDave> at install, it will give you a warning about not configuring swap. ignore it
[00:22] <daftykins> he's gone.
[00:23] <ObrienDave> figures
[00:23] <ObrienDave> maybe i should enable join/leave messages again LOL
[00:24] <morenoh149> ObrienDave: oh definitely. I considered disabling it but that's no good for slower channels.
[00:25] <ifellasleep> you're missing out, join/leave messages keeps the flow of chat going!
[00:25] <morenoh149> a lot of the time I'll idle and be able to respond to questions asked hours ago. But it only makes sense if you can see the other person is still logged in
[00:25] <ObrienDave> nah, takes too long for me to backtrack through the junk LOL
[00:26] <daftykins> let's stay on topic guys
[00:26] <morenoh149> ObrienDave: again, for slower channels. ppl ask legit questions but there isn't too much discussion
[00:27] <daftykins> morenoh149: stop the off topic chat please, you're welcome to take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:32] <morenoh149> what's the difference between the alternate install and the server install?
[00:33] <daftykins> i don't think alternate exists anymore
[00:33] <jrib> morenoh149: there used to be different kernels for server
[00:34] <jrib> morenoh149: that hasn't been the case for a while
[00:34] <morenoh149> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads what that 14.04.4 then? rc?
[00:34] <morenoh149> oh nvm that's 12.04
[00:34] <jrib> morenoh149: you just want to install on raid, right?
[00:35] <morenoh149> jrib: nah softraid. going through this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[00:36] <jrib> morenoh149: fakeraid and software raid are not the same thing
[00:36] <daftykins> morenoh149: are you still stuck on this? we said boot a live session then install the packages earlier, prior to install
[00:38] <jrib> morenoh149: i assume you want to do software raid.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID#Boot_Loader claims that the graphical installer can handle that
[00:38] <jrib> morenoh149: uh, ignore the #Boot_Loader anchor
[00:55] <jasabella> does ubuntu support zfs?
[01:00] <pavlos> jasabella, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2203885
[01:01] <[[thufir]]> I'm on windows and am trying to install with pendrive.  I need to download the iso as well?  and then the pendrive will make a bootable usb disk?
[01:02] <histo> [[thufir]]: yes
[01:03] <ObrienDave> [[thufir]], do you already have the iso file?
[01:03] <[[thufir]]> hi histo.  dunno, I thought I used dd correctly earlier, but it windows didn't recognize it.
[01:03] <[[thufir]]> I'm at work now.
[01:04] <[[thufir]]> for wubi, do I have to do anything about boot sequence in the bios?
[01:04] <dsnyders> Hi all!  The numbers in square brackets at the start of Xorg.0.log... Are they the time?  Seconds since boot or something?
[01:05] <[[thufir]]> wait...is wubi depreciated?  I want to dual boot?
[01:05] <histo> !wubi | [[thufir]]
[01:06] <histo> [[thufir]]: wubi is not dualboot
[01:06] <zaxius> are there different versions of which going around? i had an alias on one machine where i was doing --read-alias, but when i try that on this computer i get "Illegal option --. Usage: /bin/which [-a] args"
[01:06] <histo> dsnyders: it's a timestamp
[01:06] <[[thufir]]> right, easy dual boot.  but, I need the 12.04 iso?  aaargh.  I'm partway through the 14.04 download.  I thought I saw a wubi.exe in 14.04...?
[01:07] <ObrienDave> [[thufir]], easier to burn ISO to DVD then install to separate partition
[01:07] <histo> [[thufir]]: wubi is not dualboot
[01:07] <[[thufir]]> pardon, not dual boot.  I only have usb thumb on me.  what can I do?
[01:08] <histo> [[thufir]]: Do you want to dual boot or run ubuntu from usb?
[01:08] <histo> or wubi
[01:08] <histo> !install | [[thufir]]
[01:09] <histo> [[thufir]]: What is it you want to do?
[01:09] <zaxius> i wanted mailx the other day, so i installed whatever package it told me to to get it. i thought that was mailutils, but i guess not? is there a way to find out which package contained mailx?
[01:09] <somsip> !find mailx | zaxius
[01:10] <dsnyders> histo, Thanks.  I'm trying to track down why my keyboard won't work for about 25 seconds after displaying the login prompt.  Turns out there is a 25 second period in my Xorg.0.log (at about the 6.5 second mark) where there are no entries.
[01:10] <[[thufir]]> I just want to get a simple wubi, or similar, demo in ubuntu on this system.  I guess I could resize partitions, but would rather not.  I liked the sound of wubi because it is, or was, very safe.
[01:10] <zaxius> somsip: it was mailutils! i guess i have to install a separate package to get mailutils-config. thanks
[01:11] <somsip> zaxius: np
[01:11] <histo> [[thufir]]: I would install the iso to thumb drive. You can boot directly to it. Then it will be it's own seperate thing. Windows won't even know it exists.
[01:11] <histo> [[thufir]]: If you want you can do wubi but it's not supported here.
[01:12] <phil__> Hello
[01:12] <histo> phil__: hello
[01:13] <zaxius> well, i don't have a mailutils.rc file for some reason. what i'm really trying to do is get mailx to use a valid domain name. when i installed it i just used the name of my server and i don't know where to change that.
[01:13] <[[thufir]]> if I install the iso to the thumb drive, I just need to change the bios boot sequence?  the thumb drive is only 2gb, however.
[01:14] <dsnyders> [[thufir]]: wubi is kind of like a virtual machine.  It creates an exe file on your windows hard drive (no partitioning needed), and that file contains linux.  I'd go with the thumb drive route, though.
[01:14] <[[thufir]]> dsnyders:  but the thumb drive is only 2gb.  won't work, will it?  too small..
[01:15] <histo> [[thufir]]: yes
[01:15] <[[thufir]]> histo:  yes, too small, or, yes, it will work?
[01:15] <dsnyders> [[thufir]]: There are plenty of linux distributions that will easily fit on a 2G usb.
[01:16] <histo> [[thufir]]: it will work
[01:16] <histo> [[thufir]]: Is the iso over 2gb?
[01:17] <jasabella> is there a page which summarises the differences between the nginx packages?
[01:17] <[[thufir]]> the 14.04 iso is quite a bit smaller, but I wanted to install software as well.  apache2, mysql, etc.
[01:17] <pdo_fn14> !package wordpress
[01:17] <zaxius> ah, apparently you can just use the -r switch to set the from address.
[01:17] <zaxius> but it's still going to spam...
[01:17] <somsip> !info wordpress | pdo_fn14
[01:18] <histo> [[thufir]]: try wubi then it's all up to you.
[01:18] <histo> [[thufir]]: and it's all free
[01:18] <dsnyders> [[thufir]]: The size of the ISO doesn't matter.  You won't be putting both the iso and linux on the USB.
[01:19] <histo> dsnyders: the size matters if you want it to fit on a thumb drvie.
[01:19] <histo> !botabuse > pdo_fn14
[01:19] <pdo_fn14> somsip: so the difference between !info's for universal package and !package's for system package?
[01:19] <[[thufir]]> I am dissapointed.  thank you for the information.
[01:19] <dsnyders> [[thufir]]: Spend some time reading through the pendrivelinux.com website
[01:19] <somsip> pdo_fn14: I've never seen !package used and don't see it in the !brain
[01:20] <[[thufir]]> I was planning on a clean install, I didn't expect to have to do some sort of dual boot.  maybe I'll partition.
[01:20] <histo> [[thufir]]: you can do a clean install.
[01:20] <histo> what are you talking about.
[01:21] <pdo_fn14> Sorry if you get annoyed with me. I'll take clean here
[01:21] <dsnyders> histo: plenty of room on a 2g thumb drive for a linux distro, even with some goodies.
[01:22] <histo> dsnyders: yea
[01:22] <dsnyders> histo: but yes, the bigger the better.
[01:23] <[[thufir]]> histo:  yes, I could do a clean install, that is correct.  however, I need to resize the partition first to retain xp.
[01:24] <histo> [[thufir]]: first you need to make up your mind on what you want to do.  Have you ever run linux before?
[01:24] <histo> [[thufir]]: if not I suggest creating a bootable usb and testing and playing from there. That same USB will used to install the system via whatever means
[01:25] <[[thufir]]> histo:  yes, I run linux on my home pc.
[01:25] <histo> [[thufir]]: what is your native language?
[01:26] <phil__> hey guys how do i change my nick "phil__"
[01:26] <ObrienDave> " /nick whatever "
[01:27] <phil__> thanks ObrienDave
[01:29] <Beckon> how's everyone doing?
[01:29] <streamofthot> fine really
[01:29] <bourgesi> Great Beckon, you?
[01:29] <streamofthot> experimenting with Manjaro in a virtual machine
[01:29] <[[thufir]]> histo I'll have to resize partitions.  Native language english.
[01:30] <Beldar> streamofthot, streamofthot Beckon chat is in #ubuntu-opfftopic
[01:30] <Beldar> #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:30] <Braden`> Hello!
[01:31] <Braden`> What entry do I add to sudoers to enable a user to be able to specificy do:   service mysql start     service mysql stop    and  service mysql restart?
[01:32] <vak0160> ..help set
[01:32] <vak0160> .help set
[01:32] <vak0160> .help
[01:32] <Braden`> Anyone?
[01:32] <rsw> no!
[01:32] <histo> [[thufir]]: What version of linux are you running at home?
[01:33] <histo> Braden`: You want to limit a user to just be able to do sudo service mysql stop  etc... ?
[01:33] <Braden`> Yep
[01:34] <histo> Braden`: and no other sudo commands?
[01:34] <Braden`> Correct
[01:35] <histo> Braden`: here's a good example with cmd alias
[01:36] <[[thufir]]> histo:  I run 14.04 ubuntu.  not sure what to do now, I'm almost completely with the 14.04 download on this xp computer, and am resizing partitions to make room.  however, pen drive will only install older versions.  guess I might have to download an old Ubuntu...
[01:38] <Braden`> histo:  Which example? :)
[01:40] <daftykins> [[thufir]]: that makes zero sense.
[01:42] <histo> [[thufir]]: what are you talking about?
[01:42] <Beldar> [[thufir]], I doubt that is true, look at the bottom of this page and take your pick of usb loaders. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[01:42] <thufir> got disconnected.  I'll resize partitions and install 14.04 with Linuxlive usb creator.
[01:42] <histo> Braden`: sorry forgot the link hold up lol
[01:42] <Beldar> [[thufir]], I doubt that is true, look at the bottom of this page and take your pick of usb loaders. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[01:42] <histo> Braden`: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/sudo-for-a-single-command-with-no-password-entry-802998/
[01:43] <orion> Hi. How come when I log in to my machine I see: "6 packages can be updated. 5 updates are security updates."? I ran apt-get update/upgrade and there were no packages available to be upgraded.
[01:43] <orion> What gives?
[01:43] <histo> Beldar: don't muck the water further
[01:43] <Beldar> histo, I'm not.
[01:43] <Beldar> omly one post
[01:43] <histo> thufir: what are you talking about using an older version?
[01:44] <ObrienDave> orion, try dist-upgrade
[01:44] <Bashing-om> orion: No indication of "held packages" ?
[01:45] <scottnesbitt> #opensource.com
[01:45] <thufir> histo:  I believe that at least some of the usb installers for windows will only install old versions of ubuntu.
[01:45] <orion> ObrienDave: I don't have that command available. I am running 14.04.
[01:46] <histo> thufir: no
[01:46] <histo> thufir: follow teh directions on ubuntu.com
[01:46] <ObrienDave> orion, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:46] <orion> Oh, that's what you mean
[01:46] <ObrienDave> yes ;P
[01:46] <orion> 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
[01:47] <thufir> histo ok. I was just looking at:  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/put-ubuntu-10-04-on-flash-drive-using-windows/   which only lists old versions.
[01:48] <holstein> thufir: you can dd copy the iso's.. unetbootin didnt work?
[01:49] <orion> ObrienDave: Any other ideas?
[01:49] <holstein> orion: you have dist-upgrade
[01:49] <Braden`> Cmnd_Alias      SERVICE_MYSQL_RESTART = "/sbin/service mysql restart"       omar ALL=SERVICE_MYSQL_RESTART, SERVICE_MYSQL_START, SERVICE_MYSQL_STOP    <-- isn't working
[01:49] <holstein> orion: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:49] <Braden`> Syntax error
[01:50] <Braden`> (that is for sudoers)
[01:51] <Braden> (that is for sudoers)
[01:51] <chuck1> asdf
[01:51] <Braden> (that is for sudoers)
[01:51] <Braden> (that is for sudoers)
[01:51] <Braden> (that is for sudoers)
[01:51] <Braden> (that is for sudoers)
[01:51] <Braden> (that is for sudoers)
[01:51] <unopaste> Braden you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[01:51] <chuck11> asdf
[01:51] <Braden`> ?
[01:51] <ObrienDave> orion, sudo apt-get install -f
[01:51] <unopaste1> Braden you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[01:51] <lordbachus> snap
[01:52] <chuck111> asdf
[01:52] <ObrienDave1> orion, sudo apt-get install -f
[01:52] <unopaste11> Braden you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[01:52] <lordbachus1> snap
[01:52] <chuck1111> asdf
[01:52] <ObrienDave11> orion, sudo apt-get install -f
[01:52] <unopaste111> Braden you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[01:52] <lordbachus11> snap
[01:52] <Braden`> Someone has too much time on their hands
[01:52] <chuck11111> asdf
[01:52] <ObrienDave111> orion, sudo apt-get install -f
[01:52] <unopaste1111> Braden you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[01:52] <lordbachus111> snap
[01:52] <chuck111111> asdf
[01:52] <ObrienDave> what?
[01:52] <ObrienDave1> what?
[01:52] <ObrienDave11> what?
[01:52] <ObrienDave111> what?
[01:52] <ObrienDave1111> orion, sudo apt-get install -f
[01:52] <unopaste11111> Braden you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[01:52] <ObrienDave1111> what?
[01:52] <lordbachus1111> snap
[01:52] <lordbachus> echo
[01:52] <lordbachus1> echo
[01:52] <chuck1111111> asdf
[01:52] <lordbachus11> echo
[01:52] <lordbachus111> echo
[01:52] <lordbachus1111> echo
[01:52] <lordbachus11111> snap
[01:52] <somsip> !ops | bots are chatting to each other (lordbachus and chuck)
[01:52] <unopaste111111> Braden you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[01:52] <lordbachus11111> echo
[01:52] <chuck11111111> asdf
[01:52] <somsip1> !ops | bots are chatting to each other (lordbachus and chuck)
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[01:52] <unopaste1111111> Braden you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[01:52] <lordbachus111111> snap
[01:53] <unopaste11111111> Braden you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[01:53] <Beckon> wget -P ~/.irssi http://static.quadpoint.org/irssi/fear2.theme
[01:53] <Beckon1> wget -P ~/.irssi http://static.quadpoint.org/irssi/fear2.theme
[01:53] <Beckon11> wget -P ~/.irssi http://static.quadpoint.org/irssi/fear2.theme
[01:53] <Beckon111> wget -P ~/.irssi http://static.quadpoint.org/irssi/fear2.theme
[01:53] <Beckon1111> wget -P ~/.irssi http://static.quadpoint.org/irssi/fear2.theme
[01:54] <Beckon11111> wget -P ~/.irssi http://static.quadpoint.org/irssi/fear2.theme
[01:54] <Beckon111111> wget -P ~/.irssi http://static.quadpoint.org/irssi/fear2.theme
[01:54] <Beckon1111111> wget -P ~/.irssi http://static.quadpoint.org/irssi/fear2.theme
[01:54] <Beckon11111111> wget -P ~/.irssi http://static.quadpoint.org/irssi/fear2.theme
[01:54] <Beckon111111111> wget -P ~/.irssi http://static.quadpoint.org/irssi/fear2.theme
[01:54] <Fall> oh wow
[01:54] <Braden`> Botnet attacks are so mid-90s
[01:55] <Fall> we're not even getting creative with the nicks anymore, just append more 1's hey?
[01:55] <ObrienDave> wth was that?
[01:55] <ObrienDave1> wth was that?
[01:55] <ObrienDave11> wth was that?
[01:56] <ObrienDave111> wth was that?
[01:56] <ObrienDave1111> wth was that?
[02:01] <IdleOne> sorry about all the noise folks.
[02:01] <IdleOne> back to support
[02:01] <Braden`> Cmnd_Alias      SERVICE_MYSQL_RESTART=/sbin/service mysql restart        omar ALL=SERVICE_MYSQL_RESTART, NOPASSWD: SERVICE_MYSQL_RESTART        <-- It still asks me for a password and tells me that user omar does not have access to do "service mysql restart"
[02:01] <ObrienDave> is it safe?
[02:01] <Braden`> I just set them all on ignore
[02:02] <ObrienDave> will remember that
[02:02] <Braden`> What am I doing wrong with the sudoers file?
[02:02] <orion> ObrienDave: 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
[02:02] <orion> With apt-get install -f
[02:03] <orion> Is the MOTD cached in some way? Can I clear that cache?
[02:03] <ObrienDave> dang, a lot of people having trouble with apt tonight
[02:03] <Braden`> If anyone can help me with my sudoers issue, I'd really appreciate it
[02:06] <vak0160> Braden`: you could use chown and set /etc/init.d/mysql to a group
[02:06] <vak0160> Braden`: and add root and your user to that group
[02:06] <vak0160> you don't need sudo anymore
[02:11] <Braden`> vak0160:  There should be a way to do it with sudo.  I tried everything I found on google without any luck
[02:12] <Quoexl> sorry guys fell in this late, may offer assistance?
[02:12] <ObrienDave> of course
[02:12] <Quoexl> short synopsis please
[02:13] <Quoexl> Is your computer plugged in? This is a very common mistake
[02:15] <Braden`> There is no way to get sudo to grant access to only do "service mysql restart"?
[02:16] <vak0160> Braden`: where did you put that permission in sudoers? bottom of the file?
[02:20] <trism> orion: some of the motd scripts cache results, what's the problem?
[02:42] <[[thufir]]> is it harder to install from a usb thumb drive when it uses squished usb?  unetbootin put the iso on the thumb drive.
[02:44] <[[thufir]]> if there's no option to boot from usb in the bio, there's no work-around?
[02:44] <sydney> [[thufir]]: what do you mean by squished?
[02:44] <sydney2> [[thufir]]: what do you mean by squished?
[02:44] <sydney22> [[thufir]]: what do you mean by squished?
[02:45] <[[thufir]]> sydney:  the usb dongle is regular usb connector on the computer side, but where it connects to the thumb drive it's either micro or mini usb.
[02:45] <ObrienDave> [[thufir]], if the BIOS does not support it, no
[02:45] <sydney222> [[thufir]]: what do you mean by squished?
[02:45] <pgnome> hello... has anyone installed kernel 3.15 or 3.16 rc1 on 14.04?
[02:45] <sydney2222> [[thufir]]: what do you mean by squished?
[02:45] <ObrienDave> again?
[02:45] <pgnome2> hello... has anyone installed kernel 3.15 or 3.16 rc1 on 14.04?
[02:45] <sydney22222> [[thufir]]: what do you mean by squished?
[02:45] <sydney> what is hapening?
[02:45] <sydney2> what is hapening?
[02:45] <sydney22> what is hapening?
[02:45] <sydney222> what is hapening?
[02:45] <sydney2222> what is hapening?
[02:45] <sydney22222> what is hapening?
[02:45] <pgnome22> hello... has anyone installed kernel 3.15 or 3.16 rc1 on 14.04?
[02:45] <sydney222222> [[thufir]]: what do you mean by squished?
[02:45] <sydney222222> what is hapening?
[02:46] <[[thufir]]> sydney the dongle is either mini or micro usb on the thumb drive.
[02:46] <pgnome222> hello... has anyone installed kernel 3.15 or 3.16 rc1 on 14.04?
[02:46] <sydney2222222> [[thufir]]: what do you mean by squished?
[02:46] <sydney2222222> what is hapening?
[02:46] <pgnome2222> hello... has anyone installed kernel 3.15 or 3.16 rc1 on 14.04?
[02:46] <sydney22222222> [[thufir]]: what do you mean by squished?
[02:46] <sydney22222222> what is hapening?
[02:46] <pgnome22222> hello... has anyone installed kernel 3.15 or 3.16 rc1 on 14.04?
[02:46] <sydney222222222> [[thufir]]: what do you mean by squished?
[02:46] <sydney222222222> what is hapening?
[02:46] <pgnome222222> hello... has anyone installed kernel 3.15 or 3.16 rc1 on 14.04?
[02:46] <sydney2222222222> [[thufir]]: what do you mean by squished?
[02:46] <sydney2222222222> what is hapening?
[02:47] <ObrienDave> !ops | the bots are back
[02:47] <pgnome2222222> hello... has anyone installed kernel 3.15 or 3.16 rc1 on 14.04?
[02:47] <[[thufir]]> I cannot boot from usb, so cannot install from the thumb drive.  that leaves either optical (dvd or cd) or network install?  or, as a longshot, wubi?
[02:47] <pgnome22222222> hello... has anyone installed kernel 3.15 or 3.16 rc1 on 14.04?
[02:47] <[[thufir]]> are there bots or something on this channel?  very weird.
[02:48] <gartral> errr... lolwut? http://i.imgur.com/wNDnV3D.png Disk Utility.. you are stoned...
[02:48] <gartral2> errr... lolwut? http://i.imgur.com/wNDnV3D.png Disk Utility.. you are stoned...
[02:48] <gartral22> errr... lolwut? http://i.imgur.com/wNDnV3D.png Disk Utility.. you are stoned...
[02:49] <gartral222> errr... lolwut? http://i.imgur.com/wNDnV3D.png Disk Utility.. you are stoned...
[02:49] <gartral2222> errr... lolwut? http://i.imgur.com/wNDnV3D.png Disk Utility.. you are stoned...
[02:49] <gartral22222> errr... lolwut? http://i.imgur.com/wNDnV3D.png Disk Utility.. you are stoned...
[02:49] <gartral222222> errr... lolwut? http://i.imgur.com/wNDnV3D.png Disk Utility.. you are stoned...
[02:50] <gartral> !ops | bot flood emergency!
[02:50] <gartral2> !ops | bot flood emergency!
[02:50] <gartral22> !ops | bot flood emergency!
[02:50] <gartral222> !ops | bot flood emergency!
[02:50] <gartral2222> !ops | bot flood emergency!
[02:50] <gartral2222222> errr... lolwut? http://i.imgur.com/wNDnV3D.png Disk Utility.. you are stoned...
[02:50] <gartral22222> !ops | bot flood emergency!
[02:50] <gartral222222> !ops | bot flood emergency!
[02:50] <gartral2222222> !ops | bot flood emergency!
[02:50] <gartral22222222> errr... lolwut? http://i.imgur.com/wNDnV3D.png Disk Utility.. you are stoned...
[02:50] <gartral22222222> !ops | bot flood emergency!
[02:50]  * gartral peeks up from the bomb bunker
[02:51] <ObrienDave> children must play
[02:51] <sydney> thank you IdleOne !!
[02:51] <phunyguy> yano: you read my mind
[02:52] <yano> heh
[02:52] <surf2b1> I updated Ubuntu and after the upgrade the resolution are only allowing 640x480. I am running Windows 8.1 and using Virtual Box. Anyone know how to fix the resolution displaying correctly?
[02:52] <gartral> ok, are we done?
[02:52] <ObrienDave> for now LOL
[02:53] <pgnome> surf2b1, updated what?  sounds like video drivers?
[02:53] <vak0160> Braden`: found it, the reason that line not working is because /sbin/service is not exists (at least for me), try `which service` to get the path and use it in sudoers
[02:53] <pgnome> I am wondering if anyone has tried kernel 3.15 or 3.16 rc1... can I ask now? lol
[02:54] <ObrienDave> i tried 3.14, got rid of it
[02:54] <pgnome> why?
[02:54] <surf2b1> pgnome: IDK exactly. I just started Ubuntu after not using it for quite awhile and a dialog told me there was an update for Ubuntu and it installed a bunch of packages
[02:54] <ObrienDave> 3.14.3 irrc
[02:54] <ObrienDave> kept freezing my laptop
[02:54] <pgnome> oh
[02:55] <pgnome> surf2b1, what video card do you use?
[02:55] <pgnome> sounds like video drivers to me
[02:55] <pgnome> is this ubuntu  as virtualbox client or host?
[02:57] <surf2b1> pgnome: Under "display adapters" in Windows it says Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600 and NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M. Is that what you are looking for? Sorry for the newbness
[02:57] <Braden`> vak0160:  Thank you!
[02:57] <Braden`> That was definately the problem
[03:01] <surf2b1> pgnome: Google search seems to suggest installing Guest Additions in VB. All the guides show a "Devices" menu in VB but I don't have that
[03:06] <ObrienDave> guest additions are pretty mandatory
[03:07] <ObrienDave> you need the extensions iso and guest additions
[03:12] <yagami> hooola
[03:12] <yagami> :)
[03:15] <yogi_> morning
[03:15] <ObrienDave> greetings
[03:18] <histo> !info linux-image
[03:18] <histo> !info linux-image-generic
[03:19] <histo> pgnome: ^^^
[03:19] <a2d> ^_^
[03:23] <anghel> I am new here
[03:26] <ObrienDave> welcome
[03:26] <Jayson_Virissimo> thanks
[03:27] <Jayson_Virissimo> what do most people use this channel for?
[03:28] <ObrienDave> Ubuntu support questions
[03:29] <ObrienDave> general chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:31] <halberd> I have a hdd with windows and ubuntu installed (together taking up all the drive space) but no grub.  Is it safe to run grub-install or is that going to overwrite things?
[03:32] <ObrienDave> how are you dual booting now?
[03:32] <halberd> from grub on a flash drive
[03:33] <halberd> do I need to free some drive space for another logical partition for grub?
[03:34] <ObrienDave> no, grub installs to the MBR of your windows boot drive
[03:35] <halberd> as I understood it, grub is too big to fit in the MBR and must put parts of itself elsewhere
[03:35] <ObrienDave> not sure about that. you do not need a new partition
[03:36] <halberd> do I install it to my ubuntu / partition?
[03:37] <ObrienDave> not sure about that either. anyone else?
[03:38] <ObrienDave> which OS was installed first on your computer? i assume windows
[03:39] <pgnome> surf2b1, oh, it's a laptop then... that's the problem... integrated/hybrid graphics
[03:39] <surf2b1> pgnome: not a laptop.
[03:40] <pgnome> 750M means it's integrated
[03:40] <meek_geek> guys my laptop screen is broke ( i put a headphone bt keyboard and screen) now i can see only 1/5 of it that too colors dripping
[03:41] <meek_geek> but no physical damange to screen
[03:41] <meek_geek> i think pressure from headphones damage the pixels
[03:41] <halberd> ObrienDave, yes windows
[03:41] <meek_geek> what 2 do ?
[03:41] <halberd> then I installed ubuntu on a flash drive, then I transferred ubuntu from the flash drive to the hard drive (making new partitions and transferring the files with tar, then mkswap)
[03:42] <ObrienDave> meek_geek, you probably ruptured a BUNCH of LCD cells. nothing you can do except close the lid flat when not in use
[03:42] <halberd> and it boots OK but I have to use grub on the flash drive and edit the UUID of boot option to be the one on the hdd
[03:43] <amy> Hi, I really need some support. I have lost an ID which I will never find again. I overtyped it in GEDIT and saved. However it could also be in memory. I have checked the backup copy gedit keeps but not luck any ideas guys please?
[03:43] <halberd> because grub on the flash drive doesn't detect ubuntu on the hdd automatically (which raises another question... why?)
[03:43] <ObrienDave> halberd, i know it can be done. not familiar enough with the process to help
[03:44] <ObrienDave> amy, ID for?
[03:44] <meek_geek> ObrienDave, Can a laptop screen be remove so that the external VGA ports / HDMI can we used with external monitor ?
[03:44] <ObrienDave> meek_geek, yes
[03:44] <ianorlin> you can use with the screen still there
[03:45] <ObrienDave> meek_geek, ^^^
[03:45] <meek_geek> no no I want to remove the laptop screen!
[03:45] <meek_geek> Is it possible ?
[03:45] <ObrienDave> yes
[03:45] <surf2b1> pgnome: installed a fresh version of ubuntu with Guest Additions and now the resolution is back to normal.
[03:45] <Bashing-om> halberd: One may install grub to the HD, but will overwrite the Windows boot code ( not a problem as grub will chainload windows to it's boot menu) .
[03:45] <ObrienDave> surf2b1, \o/
[03:45] <amy> ObrienDave, One time OTP key
[03:45] <ianorlin> won't that make it turn on if you hit keyboard in transport?
[03:45] <meek_geek> ObrienDave, Omg i cannot even see now
[03:45] <ianorlin> and possibly wake up
[03:45] <meek_geek> so If I remove the screen of laptop would external VGA/HDMI still work ?
[03:46] <meek_geek> ObrienDave, do we need VGA to boot up or HDMI would work ?
[03:46] <ianorlin> HDMI can work but there could be problems
[03:46] <amy> ObrienDave, The key has been entered on my clipboard lots of times and entered into firefox in the tor browser
[03:47] <meek_geek> ianorlin, but no problems with VGA ?
[03:47] <ObrienDave> meek_geek, you probably need laptop screen to configure the external monitor. you might me SOL right about now
[03:47] <ianorlin> might as well but less likely
[03:47] <ObrienDave> *be
[03:48] <meek_geek> but I have used my MACBOOK pro without screen for long
[03:48] <ianorlin> unless you do something like take hard drive out install openssh-server and then remotely acess it but there are security concerns
[03:48] <meek_geek> with external monitor
[03:48] <ianorlin> sometimes if you boot with external montior it will show
[03:48] <ianorlin> at least with vga
[03:49] <ObrienDave> meek_geek, it might work, ymmv
[03:49] <meek_geek> ianorlin, Ok I would take the risk of removing laptop screen then and try an external monitor there only
[03:49] <meek_geek> ok
[03:50] <meek_geek> I m so scared cuz if it dont work i have no pc then
[03:50] <ObrienDave> amy, do you have a backup anywhere?
[03:50] <ObrienDave> meek_geek, try connecting monitor to external port for now
[03:51] <Blamemonkey> Hey guys, I am looking for some help with wine and #winehq is dead
[03:52] <ObrienDave> winehq is usually dead
[03:52] <halberd> Bashing-om, are you sure that the Windows boot code is _all_ it will overwrite?  that would imply that Grub isn't any bigger than the Windows boot code
[03:53] <ObrienDave> halberd, grub is strictly a bootloader manager
[03:54] <ObrienDave> scratch manager ;P
[03:55] <meek_geek> ObrienDave, its only the way from home heh in mail now
[03:56] <ObrienDave> grr, can't guarantee it will work off the bat. but worth a shot
[03:57] <ObrienDave> halberd, how much ubuntu experience do you have?
[03:57] <halberd> ObrienDave, well I've been using it for years but I'm no expert
[03:57] <ObrienDave> ok look into https://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair
[03:58] <ObrienDave> be VERY careful with that
[03:58] <halberd> I'm looking at http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[03:58] <ObrienDave> ok
[03:59] <ObrienDave> amy, do you have a backup anywhere?
[04:00] <halberd> but I'm pretty unclear why that tutorial does all that stuff with chrooting into /mnt
[04:00] <halberd> does it mean it will end up installing most of chroot into /mnt?
[04:01] <halberd> er, most of grub into /mnt
[04:01] <ObrienDave> let me look
[04:02] <asdofindia> halberd, you're doing lfs? (i missed the initial part)
[04:03] <halberd> I have windows and ubuntu installed on an hdd, but I copied the ubuntu install from a flash drive instead of doing a full reinstall, so I don't have grub on the hdd
[04:03] <halberd> I know my installation of ubuntu is good since I can use it from grub on the flash drive
[04:03] <halberd> but I'm trying to figure out the proper way to put grub on the hdd
[04:04] <ObrienDave> halberd, no, i don't think so. your mainly adding default search folders to grub for other OSes. sort of like M$ path
[04:07] <ObrienDave> biaf
[04:08] <halberd> http://www.biaf.org/
[04:08] <cuddylier> Is there anyway to limit a jar file executed by a user to not execute commands that go outside their directory?
[04:08] <cuddylier> Or block the user from executing directory changing commands within a jar file?
[04:09] <halberd> chroot?
[04:09] <chrstphrchvz> halberd: LOL, I think he meant "back in a few"
[04:09] <ObrienDave> yes, rofl
[04:09] <asdofindia> cuddylier, http://askubuntu.com/questions/292925/how-to-sandbox-applications says chroot too :P
[04:10] <chrstphrchvz> ObrienDave, halberd: I didn't see the beginning of the discussion either. Could /etc/fstab need updating (e.g. uuid's weren't used)?
[04:10] <halberd> I already updated /etc/fstab, as I said the installation works fine except for not having grub
[04:10] <halberd> I think it works fine, at least, it boots from grub on the flash drive without any errors
[04:10] <ObrienDave> chrstphrchvz, <halberd> I have windows and ubuntu installed on an hdd, but I copied the ubuntu install from a flash drive instead of doing a full reinstall, so I don't have grub on the hdd
[04:11] <cuddylier> asdofindia: Yes, that seems what I want but it says chroot can be broken out of fairly easily?
[04:11] <cuddylier> I need something full proof
[04:11] <asdofindia> maybe you need to set up the file permissions properly
[04:12] <halberd> people say you should just install grub to /dev/sda but I am confused where grub would have space to put the majority of its files if I do that
[04:13] <halberd> e.g. looking at http://askubuntu.com/questions/184155/where-to-install-grub
[04:13] <amy> ObrienDave, no
[04:13] <cuddylier> asdofindia: Do you mean the file permissions outside that user's directory?
[04:13] <amy> Is there anyway I can retreive my past copy history
[04:13] <amy> It's in there
[04:13] <vak0160> halberd: AFAIK grub would install it's files in /boot in the main partition
[04:14] <vak0160> halberd: and a loader in MBR
[04:14] <asdofindia> cuddylier, yes. because if you want your user to not do anything outside the directory he's in, then the best way is to give him access only to his directory.
[04:14] <halberd> how does it identify the main partition, vak0160 ?
[04:14] <vak0160> halberd: from where you linux installation
[04:14] <cuddylier> asdofindia: Currently the users only are chown'ed to their user directory
[04:14] <vak0160> your*
[04:14] <halberd> but how does it know which one that is
[04:14] <halberd> in my case the first partition is some Windows loader IIRC
[04:14] <asdofindia> amy, I use something called diodon
[04:14] <cuddylier> The file that was accessed has 404 chmod permissions but they could still access it
[04:15] <vak0160> halberd: i think grub would just write to /boot, wherever / is
[04:15] <Guest10175> cambadas \o/
[04:16] <amy> asdofindia,
[04:16] <amy> I need something now I can get back my old history
[04:16] <amy> Without any new apps or anything
[04:16] <Guest10175> vocês tambem é usuario de Linux ?
[04:16] <ObrienDave> !es | Guest10175
[04:18] <chrstphrchvz> halberd: Both grub-install and update-grub seem fairly intelligent--they identify what OS's are installed and what partitions they are on.
[04:18] <Guest10175> eu posso usar o tradutor
[04:19] <halberd> chrstphrchvz, so you're saying, if I enter a terminal from a live CD, and type sudo grub-install /dev/sda, it will install to my hard drive and automatically find the ubuntu installation in the logical partition /dev/sda5, where it will put its files?
[04:20] <chrstphrchvz> Quer dizer português? !pt | Guest10175
[04:20] <ObrienDave> !pt | Guest10175
[04:21] <ObrienDave> halberd, that sounds about right
[04:21] <Guest10175> (Y)
[04:21] <chrstphrchvz> halberd: As long as grub-install is run from the chroot in the Ubuntu partition
[04:22] <halberd> chrstphrchvz, I'm confused how that works (I understand what chroot does)
[04:22] <halberd> but why do you chroot in this case?
[04:23] <chrstphrchvz> Guest10175 Ou este canal #ubuntu-br
[04:25] <asdofindia> halberd, http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub.html#mozTocId432831 see how when you install natively you have to specify where your /boot is, but when you use grub-install it guesses on its own
[04:26] <chrstphrchvz> halberd: When GRUB is installed there is a boot loader installed at the beginning of the disk (MBR) and just about the rest (some configuration, customization) is stored under /boot in the Ubuntu installation. When installing  Ubuntu, the installer does the same thing of running e.g. grub-install /dev/sda
[04:26] <chrstphrchvz> …as a chroot.
[04:28] <chrstphrchvz> asofindia: note that the link is discussing GRUB 1, not GRUB 2
[04:28] <halberd> alright I think I get it, but one thing:  are a "native" install and a grub-install mutually exclusive?
[04:29] <halberd> because I think I want to use grub-install to perform a native install to the MBR
[04:31] <asdofindia> halberd, I suppose when you can do grub-install you don't need to resort to the other method. the 'native' method is when you're stuck in grub console.
[04:31] <chrstphrchvz>  ObrienDave: Something else occurred to me, is when /boot is a separate partition. When I clone Ubuntu onto another drive, but I installed with a separate /boot, that needs to be mounted as well (such that the chroot sees it as /boot).
[04:32] <ObrienDave> agreed
[04:32] <halberd> alright
[04:33] <halberd> well thanks for your help chrstphrchvz, ObrienDave, asdofindia  , vak0160
[04:34] <ObrienDave> looking at boot repair again, sec
[04:34] <halberd> I think I understand how to do it now
[04:34] <ObrienDave> oh geez, hope i'm not borking my boot
[04:35] <chrstphrchvz> halberd: You're welcome. The tutorial is correct in the general sense; there are definitely cases where other things need to be taken into account in order for it to work right.
[04:35] <Andrew> ea
[04:35] <halberd> such as what cases, chrstphrchvz ?
[04:36] <chrstphrchvz> For example I typically check that my /dev/sdx is what I want, I might use /dev/disk/by-id/ata-… instead to make sure
[04:36] <halberd> I just identify it by fdisk -l, I can see it has all the windows stuff on it so it must be the one
[04:37] <chrstphrchvz> This is apparent when more than one drive is present (e.g. hard drive + USB), and I didn't check in Gparted or "parted -l" which was which.
[04:37] <chrstphrchvz> halberd: Good idea.
[04:39] <jake> Hey all is it neccessary to use terminal at all times in order to install a program through the sudo apt-get install name whenever you want to install a new program not in the unbuntu softeware center
[04:39] <chrstphrchvz> ObrienDave: boot-repair (the program) usually wants to reinstall GRUB (the program) on whatever installation; since in this case we know GRUB2 (the program in Ubuntu) is already installed, all we need is "install-grub" to apply it to the MBR. (I hope I know what I'm talking about…)
[04:39] <asdofindia> jake, if it's not in the software center, apt-get will not help you either
[04:39] <ObrienDave> chrstphrchvz, i hope so also LOL
[04:40] <chrstphrchvz> ObrienDave: sorry, "grub-install"
[04:40] <ObrienDave> no apologies necessary :)
[04:41] <jake> asdofindia thank I am new to unbuntu so I would imagine it will take some serious time to get used to how it all works.
[04:41] <jake> whats grub-install
[04:42] <sporkeee> jake, You have the context you got it from?
[04:42] <chrstphrchvz> jake: see http://linux.die.net/man/8/grub-install
[04:43] <chrstphrchvz> jake: IIRC, ubuntu software center "hides" some programs (aka "technical items"), but using something like aptitude or Synaptic, they can be browsed easily
[04:43] <asdofindia> jake, the thing to note is: almost everything you can do in ubuntu/linux you can do using the command line/terminal. GUIs are built on top of this. So, what GUIs do is, take your graphical input and run a command based on that.
[04:44] <asdofindia> so, most tutorials now will be based on 'terminal ways' of doing it. But I'm sure software centre works as good.
[04:44] <ObrienDave> back in a bit (BIAB) lol
[04:44] <srachit> Hello I recently updated my windows bios and my grub disappeared, I am following this tutorial to repair it: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd but on the second step I get this error:  mount: mount point /mnt/dev does not exist
[04:45] <jake> I got that asdofindia thanks for the info would you happen to know where there  may be a concise command line reference book/ guide perhaps in the software center or online.
[04:46] <srachit> Anyone know what I should do?
[04:46] <x86_64> WHY is ubuntu one discontinued?
[04:46] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: could you give us the output of mount
[04:47] <srachit> The first time I did it, there was no mount second time I got this: mount: /dev/sda2 already mounted or /mnt busy mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda2 is already mounted on /mnt
[04:47] <chrstphrchvz> x86_64: http://blog.canonical.com/2014/04/02/shutting-down-ubuntu-one-file-services/
[04:47] <asdofindia> srachit, mkdir -pv /mnt/{dev,proc,sys}
[04:48] <jake> right now I have Unbuntu LTS running in virtulization so I am trying to locate where aptitude and synaptic are currently in the software center the host is a Win 8.1 and I wont do a direct dual boot because the last time it caused the memory segments to cross and I lost data on the host machine.
[04:48] <chrstphrchvz> asofindia: If it's an Ubuntu installation root directory, then those should already be there.
[04:48] <asdofindia> jake, I googled "ubuntu command cheat sheet" and got http://www.cheat-sheets.org/saved-copy/ubunturef.pdf
[04:48] <srachit> asdofindia: what does that do?
[04:49] <srachit> chrstphrchvz: what should I do?
[04:49] <asdofindia> chrstphrchvz, in /mnt?
[04:50] <jake> asdofindia your truely amazing THANK YOU!
[04:50] <sporkeee> srachit, you can use a gui app to do this, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair save the bootinfo summary's url that is given.
[04:50] <asdofindia> srachit, your first message was that mount point /mnt/dev does not exist. the command I gave creates directories.
[04:50] <chrstphrchvz> Running the command "mount" while not in a chroot will tell us what else is needs to be mounted in order to proceed
[04:51] <chrstphrchvz> asofindia, srachit: if /mnt/dev does not exist I'm thinking that the installation hasn't been mounted to  /mnt yet
[04:52] <asdofindia> oh yeah chrstphrchvz. srachit, did you do `sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt` properly by changing X and Y?
[04:52] <srachit> I think I did, I did sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[04:52] <asdofindia> yes.
[04:53] <asdofindia> srachit, are you on a live CD?
[04:53] <chrstphrchvz> asofindia, srachit: I would check by running "ls /mnt" to see if that's what we wanted
[04:54] <Konst> Hey, I am  having an issue where all torrent clients are stalling my torrents on my ubuntu 14.04 install. They were working a week ago and I did not change anything. torrents do download on my other machine which is running Windows. I've been having a hard time finding a solution on google.
[04:54] <Konst> I tried deluge, qbittorrent, ktorrent, transmission.
[04:54] <srachit> asdofindia: yes I am chrstphrchvz: what is that command supposed to show? It shows me two things BOOTSECT.BAK and EFI
[04:55] <chrstphrchvz> asofindia, srachit: then that's not the right partition. I was expecting bin, dev, etc, lib,…
[04:55] <asdofindia> exactly.
[04:55] <srachit> I see, let me run gparted again
[04:55] <srachit> how do I undo the sudo mount command?
[04:56] <asdofindia> `umount`
[04:56] <chrstphrchvz> asofindia, srachit: the partition you mounted obviously isn't an ext2/3/4 filesystem, does gparted show which one is?
[04:56] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: specifically, "umount /mnt"
[04:57] <asdofindia> and srachit, my "truely amazing" command was a bad command :P (never trust people on IRC)
[04:57] <[[thufir]]> I'm trying to use http://www.oak-wood.co.uk/oss/tbdialout   but it's asking "where" skype is.  where is the binary tbdialout needs?
[04:57] <asdofindia> well, srachit sorry. mixed up the truely amazing
[04:58] <srachit> chrstphrchvz: sda9 and sda10 both are ext4
[04:58] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: oh boy…
[04:58] <matt__> Hi, I'm having an issue with a new install of 14.04 that says I'm connected to wifi with a strong signal, but will not log on to the Internet. I've been googling and have not been able to find a solution. My machine is a Dell Latitude E6400.
[04:59] <srachit> chrstphrchvz: sda9 is 48 GB and sda10 is 21GB
[04:59] <asdofindia> matt__, are you sure it isn't a problem with your internet connection?
[04:59] <sporkeee> [[thufir]], The gola is to bring skype up correct?
[04:59] <sporkeee> goal
[04:59] <chrstphrchvz> Konst: I'm not sure how to handle your issue, have you looked at http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/334410-Why-are-Linux-bittorrent-applications-so-terrible ?
[05:00] <matt__> Positive, because I'm logged into the internet right now on a different machine. I'm really puzzled by this issue.
[05:00] <asdofindia> sporkeee, too much football? :P
[05:00] <[[thufir]]> sporkeee: Is it it /usr/bin/skype?  yes, well, it should also dial the number.
[05:00] <sporkeee> asdofindia, never played football.
[05:00] <asdofindia> matt__, do a `ping 8.8.8.8` and see if it receives responses.
[05:01] <srachit> chrstphrchvz: i did ls on both and sda9 has bin dev boot etc lib32 etc etc but sda10 has my account srachit and lost+found as the two folders
[05:01] <matt__> ok testing now
[05:01] <sporkeee> asdofindia, If you want to play tit for tat be careful.
[05:01] <chrstphrchvz> [[thufir]]: From what I can tell it tries to use a URI beginning with skype: (sort of like how http: launches something in your browser). I'm not sure how Skype on linux works…
[05:02] <asdofindia> srachit, sda9 is your / partition and sda10 your /home partition
[05:02] <matt__> It says: "PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data." Then the terminal hangs. Does that help?
[05:02] <srachit> asdofindia: so which should I use?
[05:02] <[[thufir]]> ok, interesting.  where do you see about the URI?  I'm just fooling around, it's not that big a deal, but it would be nice.
[05:02] <asdofindia> srachit, 9 obviously.
[05:03] <[[thufir]]> I see, you're looking at the asterisk directions for tbirddialout?
[05:03] <asdofindia> matt__, you're not connected to the internet :P
[05:03] <asdofindia> matt__, maybe try `ping <your router IP>`
[05:03] <matt__> :). Ok, trying that now
[05:04] <gaurav_> \nick GauravButola
[05:04] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: I think sda9 is your "root" / and sda10 is you /home. For the tutorial we need to run "mount /dev/sda9 /mnt"
[05:05] <srachit> ok, thanks!
[05:05] <matt__> asdo, same error: "Ping ROUTERIP (ROUTERIP) 56(84) bytes of data"
[05:06] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: proceed from where it says "Now bind the directories"…
[05:06] <darkblue_b> hi all - I wanted to report back to the channel.. 12 hours ago I asked about options for a disk I had accidentally hit "quick format" on .. I got mixed advice, in addition to "oh well".. I can report back that after ~8 hours of scanning.. testdisk  repaired the disk partition and file system (ext4)
[05:07] <asdofindia> matt__, just to show you how ping should actually work `ping localhost`
[05:07] <darkblue_b> it was a 3TB ext4 disk with GPT partition type, I believe
[05:07] <chrstphrchvz> [[thufir]] this might be what you need: http://mikebeach.org/2011/03/28/installing-skype-on-ubuntu-or-debian-with-updates-for-skype-urls/
[05:07] <asdofindia> matt__, since your router doesn't return packets, there's something wrong with that connection.
[05:09] <matt__> asdo, my network controller is Intel Coproration Ultimate N Wifi Link 5300. This link says that drivers were not released, but if I don't have the proper drivers then I wouldn't even detect wireless, right? That's what's confusing me. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=929644
[05:10] <matt__> I can see the network, it says I have a full signal, but when I try to connect, it doesn't work.
[05:10] <chrstphrchvz> matt__: that was back in 2008…
[05:10] <matt__> chrst, I know :( It's the best I'm finding with the google machine...
[05:11] <asdofindia> matt__, you said you're connected to your wifi!
[05:11] <Asist> hi i have a ping issue from ubuntu 13.10 to windows 8 any help?
[05:11] <matt__> asdo, yes, with a different machine. But this machine I just installed 14.04 to isn't connecting
[05:11] <asdofindia> asist, windows 8 doesn't play ping pong with ubuntu very well.
[05:12] <meek_geek> asdofindia, Oh try doom 3 then
[05:12] <penguinman> windows 8 doesn't play with anything very well.
[05:12] <asdofindia> matt__, congrats. you did a lot of pings to know what you already know.
[05:12] <quuxman> hey I'm having some GNARLY openssh-client / openssh-server problems that I've never experienced anything like before
[05:12] <chrstphrchvz> matt__ : can you right click on the network tray icon and click "Connection information", does it say anything for "primary dns"?
[05:12] <meek_geek> Windows 8 does not even play well with Windows itself
[05:12] <quuxman> I have a very fresh Ubuntu 14.04 server and it's not accepting ssh connections
[05:12] <matt__> @asdo ha! @chrst -trying now
[05:12] <meek_geek> quuxman, oh it cannot be
[05:13] <Asist> how how can i fix this issue
[05:13] <matt__> @chrst - primary DNS is 75.75.75.75
[05:13] <quuxman> meek_geek: oh? Interestingly I'm getting different behaviors when attempting to connect from two different machines
[05:13] <asdofindia> quuxman, I think you need to install an ssh-server
[05:13] <chrstphrchvz> Asist: what does it say when you run "service ssh status" on the server?
[05:14] <quuxman> meek_geek: client1: says connection timed out, while server says "Did not receive identification string from 192.168.1.12"
[05:14] <quuxman> meek_geek: client2: ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer, and I see nothing in server's auth log
[05:14] <[[thufir]]> chrstphrchvz: I can't find that skype package, so I'm googling it.   thanks.
[05:14] <quuxman> meek_geek: I'm way beyond that
[05:14] <quuxman> meek_geek: I'm not an idiot
[05:14] <Asist> i do not have ssh service on the windows machine
[05:14] <asdofindia> lol wrong geek.
[05:15] <quuxman> er, sorry meek_geek I meant asdofindia
[05:15] <chrstphrchvz> Asist: I meant on the machine you're trying to ssh into
[05:15] <chrstphrchvz> are you able to do that?
[05:15]  * asdofindia sees confusion all around. why does everyone have an ssh problem altogether?
[05:16] <chrstphrchvz> Asist: can you ping the machine?
[05:16] <meek_geek> SSH is a problem by design
[05:16] <quuxman> becaus Ubuntu 14.04 has major ssh config problems?
[05:16] <Asist> i just want to ping to test connectivity
[05:16] <chrstphrchvz> please stay constructive, people
[05:16] <Asist> from ubuntu to windows 8
[05:16] <asdofindia> Asist, describe the problem you're facing.
[05:17] <meek_geek> I like Ubuntu but the only problem is that RMS called it a spyware :[
[05:17] <Asist> ping from my ubuntu 13.10 to windows 8 fails
[05:18] <asdofindia> Asist, how are the machines connected?
[05:18] <Asist> but i can ping ubuntu from the windows 8 machine
[05:18] <Asist> yes
[05:18] <asdofindia> asist, how?
[05:18] <phunyguy> meek_geek: can you stay on topic please?
[05:18] <Asist> wifi
[05:18] <Asist> home network
[05:19] <quuxman> I've never had ssh fail in this way
[05:19] <meek_geek> phunyguy, it is a topic thing; People are not using it because it is being called as Spyware; Peeps are in confusion and chaos
[05:20] <newvirus> illegal access
[05:20] <asdofindia> well, asist, are you sure you've got the windows8 IP right?
[05:20] <phunyguy> meek_geek: that is not the purpose of this channel
[05:20] <Asist> yes
[05:20] <newvirus> backtrack
[05:20] <newvirus> kali
[05:20] <phunyguy> newvirus: what are you doing?
[05:21] <Asist> very right not wrong
[05:21] <matt__> arg. I just logged in to a different wifi network from my phone and it works. now I'm totally baffled.
[05:21] <srachit> chrstphrchvz: after doing grub-install /dev/sda I get this error: grub-install: error: /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory.
[05:21] <meek_geek> newvirus, o
[05:21] <quuxman> maybe my issue would be better to discuss on #linux?
[05:22] <quuxman> though I can't send to that channel for some reason
[05:22] <phunyguy> quuxman: contact an op there, you may be muted.
[05:22] <Artemis3> quackgyver, because its ##linux
[05:22] <Artemis3> quuxman
[05:22] <phunyguy> OH right
[05:22] <phunyguy> need the extra #
[05:22] <Asist> no solution maybe?
[05:23] <Asist> ok
[05:23] <asdofindia> matt__, does your router have some kind of MAC address restriction?
[05:23] <asdofindia> Asist, tell me your IP addresses. Windows and ubuntu
[05:23] <matt__> asdo, I'm not sure how to determine that.
[05:24] <Overlordz> hi I'm trying to copy data off an old, old hard drive (Conner CFS420A) with a USB-IDE enclosure.  I know the enclosure works cause I just used it on another drive.  ubuntu doesn't seem to be able to read the head/cylinder/sector count.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7672848/
[05:24] <matt__> But apparently I can log into one wifi network and not another at the moment.
[05:24] <chrstphrchvz> matt__: Is any device usually able to connect to the internet as long as you enter the wifi password?
[05:24] <asdofindia> matt__, it's usually configured in the router's configuration page. 192.168....
[05:24] <matt__> Yes, have connected with tablets, phones, tons of different laptops.
[05:25] <asdofindia> matt__, okay. then maybe there is no mac restriction.
[05:25] <phunyguy> Overlordz: perhaps the drive is bad
[05:25] <Overlordz> phunyguy, oh, right, forgot to mention - I just pulled it from a machine where it booted into win95
[05:25] <chrstphrchvz> Overlordz: I wouldn't be surprised if hdparm can't access that info if it's a USB enclosure…
[05:26] <Asist> 192.168.1.x network
[05:26] <matt__> could it be something in network connections?
[05:26] <quuxman> I just needed to be identified with NickServ to say something on ##linux
[05:26] <chrstphrchvz> Overlordz: or maybe it's too old to negotiate with the USB enclosure… I'm looking for info on your drive model…
[05:27] <loa> is there way to create something like software hybrid disk? For example i buy sdd and files wich used frequently but changed rarely moved to ssd and used from there.
[05:27] <quuxman> for some reason I have to re-auth every day
[05:27] <loa> buy ssd *
[05:27] <srachit> I'm stuck on the grub install step here: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd, I am getting this error: grub-install: error: /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory.
[05:28] <chrstphrchvz> Overlordz: Have you tried mounting it? If it's listed as /dev/sdc, I would think that that's possible
[05:29] <sporkeee> srachit, two easy ways  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair or boot in with this and do it from the desktop. http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/
[05:30] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: sorry, haven't found what to do yet. asdofindia: I come across stuff relating to efi install, could that be it?
[05:30] <sporkeee> srachit, Did not follow your problem I assume this not a efi boot partition issue.
[05:31] <Overlordz> chrstphrchvz, mount says "mount: /dev/sdc: can't read superblock"
[05:31] <srachit> sporkeee:  I have no idea what the issue is
[05:31] <chrstphrchvz> loa: I've looked into that myself, one of the names it goes by is "tiering". Not familiar with any linux solutions though.
[05:33] <srachit> sporkeee:  I tried the boot repair program you told me about, this came up regarding efi The boot of your PC is in Legacy mode. You may want to retry after changing it to EFI mode.
[05:36] <chrstphrchvz> Overlordz: from something like http://forums.windrivers.com/showthread.php?84725-Can-t-access-drives-connected-via-an-EIDE-to-USB-kit it seems that old hard drives using C/H/S mode instead of LBA mode will not work with your enclosure. It may work if you can attach it internally (if your PC is old enough)…
[05:37] <Asist> any fedena users
[05:37] <bng> hi all, anyone using fglrx?
[05:37] <bng> is there any workaround to save screenshots?
[05:38] <Asist> HI FEDENA HELP
[05:39] <Asist> How can i configure mongrel to start  at boot up
[05:39] <chrstphrchvz> Asist: this wouldn't be the place… do they happen to have an IRC channel?
[05:40] <phunyguy> not even sure what fedina is
[05:41] <srachit> Anyone?
[05:41] <chrstphrchvz> phunyguy: school management software, nothing ubuntu related
[05:42] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: I don't think setting your PC to boot in EFI is going to help… are you still in the chroot?
[05:42] <phunyguy> chrstphrchvz: ahh, gotcha
[05:42] <srachit> yes
[05:42] <srachit> I am still in chroot
[05:43] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: actually, it may, I'm trying to see why boot-repair told you about legacy mode…
[05:43] <Overlordz> chrstphrchvz, interesting, thanks, I do have a PC around that has an IDE connector on the mobo, I think.
[05:44] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: Are you doing this from the PC you use Ubuntu on?
[05:44] <srachit> yes I am
[05:44] <ObrienDave> LOL i borked my grub just now getting back to normal
[05:45] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: Curious, what model is your PC?
[05:45] <srachit> er a samsung np370r4e I think
[05:46] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: Do you remember what version of Ubuntu you had installed>
[05:46] <chrstphrchvz> ?
[05:46] <srachit> the latest 14.04 I thin
[05:47] <chrstphrchvz> srachit : Ok, what LiveCD did you use to boot ?
[05:47] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: I think I found it…
[05:48] <srachit> I dont know, I had it for a while now, but I dont think its 14.04
[05:49] <srachit> Is that the problem chrstphrchvz?
[05:50] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: I should have noticed from earlier, that sda2 partition had an EFI directory--your Ubuntu install is EFI mode. We need to mount the efi partition and run a special grub-install…
[05:50] <quuxman> damn this problem is really weird. Still wrestling with it. Posted it here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/485777/openssh-server-is-refusing-connections-by-blocking-or-resetting
[05:50] <srachit> chrstphrchvz: What should I do now?
[05:52] <chrstphrchvz> srachit : could you run parted -l again, what does it say about /dev/sda2?
[05:52] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: I think that's probably your EFI system partition
[05:53] <srachit> chrstphrchvz: so I mount back on sda2 and do a ls?
[05:53] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: not quite…
[05:54] <srachit> then?
[05:55] <chrstphrchvz> srachit:  In http://paste.ubuntu.com/7672931/ I have an example output of "parted -l" that identifies my EFI system partition, I'm trying to check what it is in your case
[05:56] <srachit> chrstphrchvz: so how can I get those details to show up?
[05:57] <celroc> srachit: He means to open a terminal and type "parted -l" without the quotes :-)
[05:57] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: going off the output of "parted -l" I'm looking for a partition that has a filesystem of fat32 and size of somewhere around 100-500MB maybe.
[05:58] <srachit> parted -l isnt doing anything
[05:59] <e^> sudo parted -l
[05:59] <e^> type that
[06:00] <srachit> thanks e^, chrstphrchvz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7672943/
[06:00] <bhavana> how to install sapgui in ubuntu14.04 ?
[06:01] <chrstphrchvz> thanks e^, srachit: great, now we can use "mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot/efi"
[06:01] <srachit> chrstphrchvz: so I first unmount right?
[06:01] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: no
[06:02] <srachit> chrstphrchvz: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot/efi mount: /dev/sda2 already mounted or /mnt/boot/efi busy mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda2 is already mounted on /mnt/boot/ef
[06:03] <e^> O.o
[06:03] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: ok, then something did it for us… let me look for the right grub-install command now…
[06:03] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: that last part is  /mnt/boot/efi right, not  /mnt/boot/ef ?
[06:04] <srachit> yes
[06:04] <srachit> efi
[06:04] <bhavana> how to install sapgui in ubuntu . please somebody help me ?
[06:05] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: ok, can we chroot back into /mnt and run "grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi"
[06:05] <Overlordz> chrstphrchvz, haha so I put that drive in a Quad Core machine that is old enough to have IDE on the motherboard and it started trying to boot into win 95 o_O.  I've got ddrescue copying everything off now though.
[06:06] <e^> chrstphrchvz: shouldn't he add /dev/sda at the end of the command?
[06:06] <srachit> chrstphrchvz: Installing for x86_64-efi platform. Fatal: Couldn't open either sysfs or procfs directories for accessing EFI variables. Try 'modprobe efivars' as root. Fatal: Couldn't open either sysfs or procfs directories for accessing EFI variables. Try 'modprobe efivars' as root. Installation finished. No error reported.
[06:07] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: Hmm. what's the output of "mount" now?
[06:07] <srachit> How do i print the output of mount?
[06:07] <e^> chrstphrchvz: maybe he has to bind the dev proc and sys directories
[06:09] <chrstphrchvz> e^, srachit: actually, looking at http://askubuntu.com/questions/357037/install-efi-mode-grub2-on-ubuntu-booted-from-legacy-mode tells me that we're not supposed to be installing grub2-efi from legacy mode. We may need to try again but making sure to boot the liveCD in EFI mode, not legacy/BIOS mode.
[06:10] <srachit> chrstphrchvz: so I need to open the system setting, shift to efi mode and then redo this?
[06:10] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: "sudo mount" I think
[06:10] <quuxman> is there an easy way to make update-manager add sources.list entries for the next LTS without actually doing the dist-upgrade?
[06:10] <quuxman> or should I just do it manually with vim?
[06:10] <vedic> Hey guys, I am using Ubuntu 12.04 and developing a web site. I want to test it on Internet Explorer 8, 9, 10, 11. How can I do that?
[06:10] <yassine> salut tt le monde
[06:11] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: yes, we should be in EFI mode, but also we want to make sure the computer boots using the EFI loader on the LiveCD, not the legacy one, so if there's a boot menu option/startup key, that might help
[06:11] <srachit> okay brb, let me mess with the settings and see if anything works
[06:11] <chrstphrchvz> !fr | yassine
[06:12] <yassine> ubottu, so I can speak english?
[06:13] <chrstphrchvz> vedic: This wouldn't be the place, sorry. Microsoft should have some stuff to look at: https://www.modern.ie/en-us
[06:13] <yassine> who is asking for MS stuff?
[06:13] <chrstphrchvz> yassine: wasn't sure if you needed help in French. English is welcome here :)
[06:14] <bng> hi all, please is there *any* workaround to save screenshots with Catalyst driver?
[06:14] <yassine> vedic- to my knowledge, no IE on linux
[06:15] <yassine> chreuben, perfect, english is my first lanuage
[06:15] <chrstphrchvz> bng: are you getting the black screen/cursor only problem?
[06:15] <chrstphrchvz> yassine: sorry, not familiar with many french salutations :)
[06:16] <chreuben> ?
[06:18] <L0uk3|Mobile> He did C-H-<tab> and it autocompleted the other nick
[06:18] <srachit> chrstphrchvz: I changed it to UEFI and restarted and it opened to the grub menu with my linux partition there but my windows partition missing, now I'm on my linux system and not the live CD
[06:19] <chrstphrchvz> L0uk3|Mobile, thanks. chreuben : sorry, he meant chrstphrchvz
[06:19] <chreuben> ah :) ok
[06:19] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: so you're trying to mount your Windows partition in Linux now, right?
[06:20] <bng> chrstphrchvz: I am getting screenshot with older state of the screen
[06:20] <srachit> chrstphrchvz: I'm not sure, because there were other options on the grub menu like windows recovery and a few others I cant remember
[06:21] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: Oh, you're trying to boot into Windows now?
[06:21] <chrstphrchvz> srachit: maybe running "sudo update-grub" will restore it?
[06:21] <srachit> I guess so, I'm just trying to get back my previous grub menu which had both my linux and windows partition
[06:22] <histo> srachit: run sudo update-grub and it should find windows
[06:22] <srachit> Ah I think that worked, thanks guys! Going to try now
[06:22] <histo> srachit: you'll have to chroot or boot to recover mode
[06:23] <mc0e> WRT https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/f-spot/+bug/1189063 , which is a critical issue in f-spot, I don't seem to be able to bump the priority up.  Who can do that?  This package is the default handler for importing photos from a camera, so it seems like a pretty important one for ubuntu's credibility.
[06:23] <chrstphrchvz> histo: update-grub shouldn't need to be run from recovery/rescue right?
[06:23] <YaMoonSun> Is there a way to get Grub installed again without using a bootable cd/flashdrive?
[06:24] <chrstphrchvz> YaMoonSun: if you're in your Linux system right now, running grub-install should work (looking for instructions…)
[06:25] <YaMoonSun> From terminal, yes? Do so as sudo?
[06:26] <chrstphrchvz> his to, srachit: Grub Customizer is another tool to check that the options we want are there--and it uses update-grub while running, btw
[06:26] <histo> chrstphrchvz: what?
[06:26] <histo> YaMoonSun: How was grub removed?
[06:26] <histo> YaMoonSun: did you actually remove it from the mbr or just the package and configs?
[06:27] <srachit> It worked like a charm, thanks a lot everyone!
[06:27] <YaMoonSun> It's not my system, my mate's mate managed to install 4 copies of ubuntu and 4 swap files over a windows 8 pc, and now it's not responding to any os except one.
[06:27] <YaMoonSun> Hoping grub will fix, or give options at least.
[06:28] <histo> YaMoonSun: sudo update-grub
[06:28] <YaMoonSun> Alright, will attempt, and if grub doesn't exist?
[06:28] <loa> is messing with atime usefull when i use ssd?
[06:28] <loa> i read that there is relatime
[06:28] <histo> loa: yes mount with noatime option
[06:29] <loa> histo, what do you think about relatime?
[06:29] <histo> loa: you can, I don't need atimes however
[06:29] <YaMoonSun> Is Teamviewer in the Ubunto store, because my mate's trying to install it and it's asking him to extract the files from the .deb
[06:30] <loa> histo, i read that some application rely on this feature
[06:30] <destasioing> ciao a tutti
[06:31] <chrstphrchvz> YaMoonSun: when you have downloaded the .deb file from TeamViewer, you can install it either with "dpkg -i" or (preferably) gdebi.
[06:31] <chrstphrchvz> YaMoonSun: I'm guessing that when you double clicked on it it opened Archive Manager?
[06:32] <YaMoonSun> Indeed.
[06:33] <chrstphrchvz> YaMoonSun: your mate is running Ubuntu, not Xubuntu/Kubuntu/etc right?
[06:33] <YaMoonSun> Yes indeed.
[06:34] <chrstphrchvz> YaMoonSun: here we go: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Installing_downloaded_packages
[06:34] <histo> loa: no issues here
[06:34] <bhavana> How can i install sapgui in ubuntu ?
[06:35] <histo> !info sapgui
[06:35] <histo> !info sapgui-package
[06:35] <YaMoonSun> Thanks mate
[06:36] <loa> histo, why for home there are defaults but not for root? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.06.20-10%3A35%3A44.png
[06:36] <bhavana> Please elaborate I have not understood
[06:37] <chrstphrchvz> mc0e: unfortunately that bug is over a year old and has only been tagged as affecting 8 people…be sure to add yourself though
[06:37] <mc0e> I have added myself
[06:38] <chrstphrchvz> bhavana: the package you want to install is called "sapgui-package", so installing it either by looking in the software center or running "sudo apt-get install sapgui-package" should work
[06:38] <bng> anyone could advice with bash, please?
[06:39] <histo> loa: what?
[06:39] <histo> loa: that's default install
[06:40] <histo> loa: you can add relatime or noatime to those options just like defaults,noatime,blahblah
[06:40] <chrstphrchvz> mc0e: Ahh, I should have noticed…
[06:40] <sporkeee> !details | bng
[06:40] <bng> nevermind I just figured it out I guess :)
[06:41] <chrstphrchvz> mc0e: You saw the bug on red hat, right? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=903022
[06:41] <bng> but you could help me maybe, I am making a script to run a wine program and I need to change few setting beforehand
[06:42] <mc0e> chrstphrchv: probably not.  It's frustrating.  I'm not doing anything special to cause this bug, just running the app from an unconfigured starting state.
[06:42] <mc0e> yes, I saw that.  I linked it into the ubuntu bug page
[06:42] <bng> one of them is to change keyboard layout: done, but can I disable keyboard repeating? I did it for the whole desktop currently which is not ideal
[06:42] <mc0e> sounds like the bug is fixed upstream
[06:43] <mc0e> chrstphrchvz:  stephen shaw has commented on both the redhat and ubuntu bug pages that the bug is fixed upstream, but no release since then
[06:45] <sporkeee> bng, might be the place #winehq
[06:45] <bng> sporkeee: I want to disable key repeating using shell command, not sure it's strictly wine-thing
[06:46] <sporkeee> bng, nothing I know.
[06:46] <bng> sporkeee: but thanks
[06:46] <histo> mc0e: there are a lot of packages that need to be updated
[06:48] <chrstphrchvz> mc0e: yeah, even in debian sid, the last f-spot update was last October
[06:48] <histo> chrstphrchvz: I found a package today that hasn't been updated since 2010
[06:48] <chrstphrchvz> (same version, 0.8.2-5.1
[06:49] <chrstphrchvz> (I'm not sure if we should be glad this isn't enterprise linux, though)
[06:49] <chrstphrchvz> mc0e: have you been using an alternative?
[06:51] <chrstphrchvz> mc0e: actually, f-spot was replaced by shotwell as the default a couple years ago
[06:52] <histo> chrstphrchvz: well I guess if it aint broke why fix it?
[06:53] <bng> how do I tell bash: do something if $1 is not empty, please?
[06:53] <bng> something like "-n $1" ?
[06:54] <Macer> anybody know why music.xbox.com won't play any songs ?
[06:54] <histo> bng: what are you trying to do?
[06:55] <Macer> in firefox in ubuntu?
[06:55] <Macer> i can't find much information on it other than people with the same problem
[06:55] <histo> Macer: probably need silverlight or something stupid from ms
[06:56] <bng> histo: I forgot how to evaluate logical operators I guess
[06:56] <Macer> histo: i have a silverlight plugin installed
[06:56] <Macer> works great with netflix
[06:56] <bng> histo: I want the script to know when any argument has been passed to it
[06:56] <histo> bng: /j #bash
[06:56] <Macer> histo: i'm also using UAControl to tell xbox.com that i'm running the windows ff
[06:56] <Macer> same thing i had to do for netflix
[06:57] <histo> Macer: yeah probably drm based something or other
[06:57] <histo> Macer: it doesn't work here on Arch with ff
[06:58] <Macer> histo: wow that's lame :)
[06:58] <Macer> i mean it isn't a deal breaker but still doesn't make much sense
[06:58] <Macer> since netflix is heavily drm too
[06:58] <Macer> then again i'm sure it may require some sort of wmp stuff that ff in ubuntu just doesn't have
[07:00] <histo> Macer: possibly you could test in a vm or wine possibly
[07:00] <chrstphrchvz> his to, Macer: I just got it to work in google chrome
[07:01] <chrstphrchvz> histo, Macer: it says it requires Flash player (which chrome includes)
[07:02] <histo> chrstphrchvz: ahh I had no script running let me try again]
[07:03] <thana> hi all
[07:03] <thana> im trying to set up a 14.04 vm using packer
[07:04] <histo> thana: k
[07:04] <thana> i put "openssh-server openssh-server/permit-root-login boolean true" into the preseed file. yet the password loging for root via ssh is still not allowed on the resulting system - any idea why?
[07:04] <SierraAR> I'm currently running ubuntu 12.04.4 64-bit on a VPS; Is there any real reason for me to upgrade to 14.04? I'm currently using it as a webserver and a ZNC server
[07:05] <thana> consulting the debconf-get-selections on the resulting machine confirms that the value for this variable is set to true, but the openssd_config still has the PermitRootLogin setting set to without-password
[07:06] <histo> thana: root account is disabled from the rip
[07:06] <sporkeee> SierraAR, Supported for three more years, it is all your decision.
[07:07] <thana> histo: huh?
[07:07] <histo> SierraAR: no wait for 14.04.1
[07:07] <histo> !upgrade | SierraAR
[07:07] <thana> histo: the root login exists and has a password set. its the sshd_config that is simply wrong...
[07:07] <histo> !ltsupgrade
[07:07] <histo> SierraAR: ^^^^^^
[07:07] <histo> thana: ahh well change it
[07:08] <SierraAR> histo: Ok, any real reason to upgrade to 14.04.1 then? If I dont have to worry about things breaking, going out of date, etc, I'd rather not risk breaking the server by updating xD
[07:08] <thana> histo: i cant. its a packer setup.
[07:08] <kaitanya> need help with quota. i'd like to set 300MB for group users on. my current info http://paste.ubuntu.com/7673149/
[07:08] <thana> histo: the point is, that the sshd_config is not in sync with the deconf-settings for the openssh-server package
[07:08] <histo> thana: try in #ubuntu-server
[07:08] <thana> ok thx
[07:10] <Macer> blah. ah well. i guess i'll just see abou tsetting up plex to play music
[07:10] <Macer> and cancel my ms music pass :/
[07:10] <histo> bng: http://linuxconfig.org/bash-scripting-tutorial
[07:10] <kirk_> destasioing: register 0331831328 destasioing@gmail.com
[07:12] <bng> histo thanks, I am using the gnu manual also
[07:13] <histo> bng: Your question didn't make sense, I'm assuming you were looking for ${args[1]}
[07:14] <bng> histo:  I found it, I meant:     if [[ -n $1 ]];   then
[07:14] <histo> bng: ahhh
[07:15] <bng> btw does anybody know how to properly assign desktop keybinding shortcuts in gconf editor?
[07:16] <helmut_> hi
[07:17] <quuxman> Wow, I'm still wrestling with my ssh issue. I upgraded the client and server to the latest version for Ubuntu 14.04, and the debug outputs changed somewhat, but still same overall behavior. I updated my askubuntu post: http://askubuntu.com/questions/485777/openssh-server-is-refusing-connections-by-blocking-or-resetting
[07:17] <quuxman> this is really killing me
[07:17] <quuxman> :-P
[07:20] <abhie2e> hi. i downloaded repo using apt-mirror is /var/spool/apt-mirror then created  symboling link at /var/www/html/ubuntu using ls -l whenever i try to access http://myip/ubuntu it says the file not found 404 error. i manualy confirmed that there is data in /var/spool/apt-mirror/mirror/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu . help please
[07:23] <survietamine> hello, my teamate has create a new openvz template based on 14.04, after installing screen package, I've got this error : "update-rc.d: warning: default start runlevel arguments (2 3 4 5) do not match screen-cleanup Default-Start values (S)"
[07:23] <cristian_c> Hi
[07:23] <survietamine> how can I fix it ?
[07:23] <cristian_c> How can I draw an arrow with mtpaint?
[07:24] <cristian_c> pressing A or S, I don't get the result
[07:24] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[07:29]  * sidesplit 
[07:30] <nathanbbb> what would best practice be for restarting a server that requires a reboot
[07:30] <jose__> join #ubuntu-es
[07:30] <ryanjacobs> sudo shutdown -r now?
[07:30] <nathanbbb> sorry I want to autmate it
[07:31] <nathanbbb> I have setup automatic updates, but I don't want them to restart
[07:31] <ryanjacobs> what do you mean: automate?
[07:31] <ryanjacobs> oh
[07:31] <nathanbbb> I believe i could check the /var/run/reboot-required file
[07:31] <nathanbbb> it seems like the best thing would be to run a cron to restart
[07:32] <ryanjacobs> so you want to reboot every so often no matter what
[07:32] <nathanbbb> no
[07:32] <nathanbbb> i only want to reboot when /var/run/reboot-required exist which is easy
[07:32] <ryanjacobs> oh
[07:32] <ryanjacobs> yeah thats real easy
[07:33] <ryanjacobs> just make a cron job like you said
[07:33] <ryanjacobs> and do [ -f /var/run/reboot-required ] && shutdown -r now
[07:44] <arun_> hi guys. how many of u have installed and tried ltp ?
[07:44] <arun_> sorry tlp
[07:46] <ryanjacobs> arun_: i haven't. have you?
[07:46] <arun_> ryanjacobs: no, so I am asking
[07:46] <arun_> its tlp
[07:47] <smallmouse> morning everyone, have tried looking on google how do i disable wifi and usb for a particular user permanentely. thank you
[07:47] <ryanjacobs> i know what it is, i just haven't tried it
[07:48] <ryanjacobs> arun_: i wonder how much of an impact on battery life it makes
[07:49] <arun_> ryanjacobs: never used so I am asking u :)
[07:50] <Artemis3> smallmouse, remove the user from the appropiate groups.
[07:50] <smallmouse> Artemis3: is there a command to do this ?
[07:51] <ryanjacobs> arun_: i found a review of tlp: http://itsfoss.com/solve-overheating-issue-battery-life-ubuntu-1304/
[07:51] <Artemis3> smallmouse, there are graphic utilities to manage users as well
[07:51] <faschel> so, right now gnome looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/AjP7PF0.jpg  the seconddary monitor looks fine, but the primary one....does not.  I did a fresh install yesterday, and there was no problem.  it's only been today.  does anyone have an idea where to start looking?
[07:51] <smallmouse> Artemis3: can you make a suggestion please
[07:51] <leeyaa> hello
[07:51] <ryanjacobs> arun_: at the very bottom it says it didn;t make much impact on battery life
[07:51] <leeyaa> when you install ubuntu server with software raid setup does it install grub on all drives automtically ?
[07:51] <leeyaa> and if so how to confirm it
[07:52] <Artemis3> smallmouse, ubuntu bundles one, but because i don't use unity i can't tell you which where
[07:53] <ryanjacobs> smallmouse: you can use usermod to remove a user from a group
[07:54] <Artemis3> i'd guess groups netdev, plugdev you'll want to remove the user from
[07:54] <ryanjacobs> yeah i think so too
[07:56] <bng> histo: what I am doing wrong?   if [[ $mypath != -d ]]; then echo "it is not a direcotry"; fi
[07:56] <bng> histo: it always says it is not a directory
[07:57] <abhie2e> how can i hide the unity left side bar on 14.04?
[07:57] <ryanjacobs> smallmouse: what you can do is, list all of the groups the user belongs to with `groups <user>`. Then reassign groups to the user with usermod -G <comma_seperated_groups_go_here> <user>.
[07:57] <bng> histo: even with a valid path
[07:58] <ryanjacobs> bng: use: if [ ! -d $mypath ]; then echo "not a directory"; fi
[07:58] <sporkeee> abhie2e, Permanent hide, or it is not hiding as of now?
[07:58] <abhie2e> sporkeee, autohide
[07:59] <sporkeee> abhie2e, What release is this?
[07:59] <abhie2e> sporkeee, 14.04
[07:59] <aledzadza> Hi always when i try to apt-get install some thing i get the error E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:59] <aledzadza> nothing seems to work :(
[08:00] <sporkeee> abhie2e, Surprised it is not dong it already, see the settings post. abhie2e
[08:00] <sporkeee> http://askubuntu.com/questions/270341/how-to-auto-hide-the-panel-on-the-left-unity
[08:00] <ryanjacobs> aledzadza: have you tried this command: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:01] <sporkeee> doing*
[08:01] <bng> ryanjacobs: thank you, that works! What did I do wrong, the double brackets or the whole construct?
[08:02] <abhie2e> sporkeee, it was disabled. working well now. thanks
[08:02] <ryanjacobs> bng: first of all you don't need double brackets. secondly, the not symbol and the -d comes first.
[08:02] <aledzadza> ryanjacobs: gives me same error about zentyal packages isent installed :(
[08:02] <bng> ryanjacobs: ok, thank you
[08:03] <ryanjacobs> bng: np
[08:03] <ryanjacobs> aledzadza: can you post the exact error
[08:03] <nathanbbb> 0 8 * * * [ -f /var/run/reboot-required ] && shutdown -r now <- didn't work ryan ?
[08:04] <nathanbbb> would i need to make a basg script ?
[08:04] <ryanjacobs> nathanbbb: probably, just dump that in a script and call it from cron
[08:05] <aledzadza> ryanjacobs: http://pastebin.com/fe0qwWWu
[08:05] <ryanjacobs> nathanbbb: nvm i know the problem
[08:06] <ryanjacobs> nathanbbb: instead of '0 8 * * *' use '* * * * *' which should check every minute
[08:06] <nathanbbb> I don't want to do that
[08:08] <ryanjacobs> nathanbbb: well before you were checking at 08:00 everyday, it's not exactly 08:00 where youre at now is it
[08:08] <SierraAR> Anybody know why I would be getting this error when booting  avirtual machine off of an ubuntu iso? https://www.dropbox.com/s/mntml01wqcs3my0/ubuntuerror.png
[08:08] <SierraAR> It happens with any ubuntu iso I use
[08:09] <nathanbbb> no
[08:09] <nathanbbb> thats utc
[08:09] <SierraAR> I am trying to use  aphysical disk instead of a virtual disk for the VM, but I've done that before without problems
[08:09] <ryanjacobs> nathanbbb: what's your time right now?
[08:10] <aledzadza> ryanjacobs: ive tried google it but i cant find nothing
[08:11] <ryanjacobs> aledzadza: i think its corrupted or something. did you poweroff while it was installing something?
[08:11] <nathanbbb> it was 8
[08:11] <nathanbbb> its 4pm here
[08:11] <aledzadza> ryanjacobs: maybe i did but how can i fix it? >>
[08:13] <ryanjacobs> nathanbbb: okay... then i guess it has to be in a script
[08:13] <Guest92753> hello
[08:13] <n3w> any1 to help me a bit with english ?
[08:15] <nathanbbb> I made this script" http://pastebin.com/LJ0fUYEj
[08:15] <DJones> n3w: You're probably best asking in ##english This channel only deals with Ubuntu support issues
[08:15] <ryanjacobs> nathanbbb: yeah that looks good :)
[08:16] <SierraAR> I've just discovered what all my problems have been
[08:16] <meshy> The Phantom Menace?
[08:16] <SierraAR> VMWare's bios was trying to boot off the HDD instead of the CD
[08:17] <ryanjacobs> aledzadza: okay i did a little research and i think i have the solution
[08:17] <aledzadza> ryanjacobs: yes and? :) :)
[08:17] <ryanjacobs> aledzadza: try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure zentyal;
[08:18] <alpy> hey how do set my PATH?
[08:18] <ryanjacobs> aledzadza: then you have to run this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure zentyal-core
[08:18] <ryanjacobs> aledzadza: and this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure zentyal-software
[08:20] <aledzadza> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: zentyal is broken or not fully installed.
[08:21] <ryanjacobs> aledzadza: okay, type the commands in the answer to this question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/103834/how-do-i-force-configuration-of-partially-installed-packages
[08:24] <ryanjacobs> alpy: export PATH="$PATH:path_you_want_to_add"
[08:27] <spyder> How can i make thunderbird start in a specific workspace at startup
[08:33] <abhie2e> how to tell apt-mirror to create 32 bit repos along with 64 bit? or whats the manual way to access 32 bit repo?
[08:36] <histo> abhie2e: why?
[08:37] <moose-machine-ar> hi. i have a difficult problem. my mum's laptop runs 12.04 LTS. She recently updated after a few months and the wicd client has stopped working. I am unable to do anything since i live in another country but my mum is unable to access the internet after the upgrade. Her pc does not even connect to the internet directly over ethernet. is there some way i can downgrade wicd on her system? thanks.
[08:37] <abhie2e> histo, ?? why what?
[08:37] <histo> abhie2e: why do you need 32bit repo?
[08:37] <sfranke> hi all am i allowed to post links here? i have some very interesting information i want to share
[08:37] <abhie2e> histo, i dont. but what if the user conneting to my local repo has 32 bit ubuntu?
[08:37] <abhie2e> sfranke, #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:37] <mrnv> hepl
[08:38] <histo> mrnv: ask
[08:38] <mrnv> :help
[08:38] <sfranke> abhie2e: thank you!
[08:39] <spyder> How can i make thunderbird start in a specific workspace at startup
[08:41] <Asist> hi
[08:41] <Fuchs> spyder: depends on the window manager in use
[08:41] <Fuchs> spyder: there is devilspie for a generic approach
[08:41] <abhie2e> spyder, try in #thunderbird in irc.mozilla.org
[08:41] <Fuchs> if unity is used: probably still in ccsm
[08:42] <Fuchs> abhie2e: hardly
[08:42] <Fuchs> abhie2e: that is a window manager issue, not a thunderbird issue
[08:42] <Asist> how can i execute commands on startup
[08:42] <spyder> Fuchs: I am using unity
[08:42] <abhie2e> Fuchs, i thought the thunderbird users use thinderbird more compared to windows manager users use thundirbird in their channel.
[08:42] <Asist> how can i execute terminal commands on start up
[08:42] <l3on> Hi all.. is there some way to know which ubuntu releases are currenlty supported ? some json, or simple HTML page to parse somewhere?.. I need it for a script, without hardconding the releases name ...
[08:43] <abhie2e> Asist, create bash script make it exucetable and add this script to startup apps
[08:43] <histo> !releases | l3on
[08:43] <Fuchs> spyder: either check devilspie or ccsm
[08:44] <histo> spyder: http://askubuntu.com/questions/89946/open-application-in-specific-workspace
[08:44] <Asist> any tutorials how to do this online
[08:44] <spyder> Fuchs: ok
[08:44] <Fuchs> spyder: http://askubuntu.com/questions/89946/open-application-in-specific-workspace  << that is the CCSM approach
[08:44] <l3on> histo, do you knwo if there's some parsable page somewhere ?
[08:44] <Fuchs> spyder: devilspie is a WM independent approach, but take whathever works for you
[08:44] <spyder> Fuchs: ok
[08:45] <histo> l3on: you could parse the wiki page or http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[08:47] <aledzadza> anytime i try to install anything with apt-get install i get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) everytime
[08:47] <l3on> histo, it must be something even simpler used by do-release-upgrade
[08:47] <histo> i336_: what is your script supposed to do?
[08:48] <histo> l3on: what is your script supposed to do?
[08:48] <i336_> hi :P
[08:48] <i336_> (it's okay)
[08:48] <l3on> histo, check which releases of ubuntu are currently supported
[08:48] <ronnie> I'm trying to get a synlink folder in apache 2.4.3 (Ubuntu 14.04) running but got a 403 Forbidden: See: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7673479/
[08:48] <l3on> histo, I mean, I need to check them ..
[08:48] <histo> l3on: for what? what is the ultimate goal?
[08:49] <andjelo> m
[08:49] <l3on> histo, the goal is know which releases of ubuntu are supported. what's the point ?
[08:50] <leeyaa> hello i am trying to start nfs-kernel-server and i am getting FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/3.13.0-24-generic/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[08:50] <histo> l3on: the point is there may be a better way to do what you are trying to do. But you know better i guess
[08:50] <leeyaa> any idea what could be wrong ?
[08:50] <ronnie> Never had this problem in older ubuntu versions
[08:50] <leeyaa> 14.04 server LTS
[08:50] <histo> ronnie: any reason you aren't using sites-enabled etc...?
[08:50] <l3on> histo, I'm trying to not hardcode the supported releaes name in apt-venv
[08:50] <l3on> histo, http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/apt-venv.html
[08:50] <histo> ronnie: also you may get more help in #apache
[08:51] <histo> l3on: huh?
[08:51] <l3on> histo, huh..what?
[08:52] <histo> l3on: so you want what version numbers?
[08:53] <ReturnOfTheGlide> Can anyone spot, why my preseed command is messing up ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7673496/
[08:53] <l3on> histo, releases name
[08:53] <histo> l3on: ohhh gotcha you don't want to manually code them.
[08:53] <l3on> histo, right
[08:54] <histo> l3on: why can't you parse wiki.ubuntu.com/releases?
[08:55] <l3on> histo, it must be something simpler around
[08:58] <histo> l3on: have you looked at http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[08:58] <histo> l3on: here is another option http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/
[08:58] <histo> l3on: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/
[08:59] <histo> yeah that's about as easy as it gets
[09:04] <ronnie> histo: ls /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
[09:04] <ronnie> histo: 000-default.conf  yellenge.conf
[09:04] <ronnie> sorry for my late answer (got buggy internet connection)
[09:09] <l3on> histo, yep, but I thinks there's some URL better .. used by do-release-upgrade for instance
[09:09] <l3on> something like a RSS feed or a JSON file
[09:09] <l3on> well see..
[09:10] <l3on> thanks histo for the help, bye bye
[09:10] <ronnie> a more complete past: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7673558/
[09:10] <histo> i336_: then look at the source for do-release-upgrade
[09:10] <i336_> hi again :D
[09:10] <histo> ronnie: did you try in #apache
[09:11] <ronnie> not yet, don't know if its the new ubuntu version or the new apache version
[09:11] <ronnie> i red that ubuntu made some modifications to the default configuration, so thats why i started here
[09:11] <JenniferB2> Hi folks!!!
[09:12] <histo> hello
[09:12] <JenniferB2> I am trying to get my apple trackpad working in Ubuntu 14.04 ... I had issues with the bluetooth and wifi not able to coexist ( basically wifi broke down as soon as I connected) and so I uninstalled all bluettoth drivers ...
[09:12] <chaudhary> Hi,
[09:13] <chaudhary> I just uninstalled lightdm-kde-greeter because the system was freezing after I entered login credentials.
[09:13] <JenniferB2> histo, hi :D
[09:13] <chaudhary> Now it won't even show the login screen
[09:13] <chaudhary> :(
[09:13] <chaudhary> Any idea how to fix this.
[09:13] <dw1> chaudhary: reinstall the package
[09:13] <JenniferB2> I am trying to follow this guide now: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/AppleMagicTrackpad but it assumes I can pair ... how do I start over for installing the basic bluetotth manager in ubuntu? Or is there a better version out there?
[09:14] <chaudhary> Earlier I looked at ps aux, it was getting stuck at lightdm-kde-greeter
[09:14] <Braden`> Hello
[09:14] <Braden`> I just updated my release from Ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04 and now trac does not work.  I get the error:   UnknownLocaleError: unknown locale 'pt_BR'  <-- How do I fix this?
[09:14] <chaudhary> Can't connect to internet using cli
[09:14] <chaudhary> :(
[09:14] <chaudhary> Ahh
[09:14] <chaudhary> Lemme see if I can install it back using .deb file
[09:14] <histo> chaudhary: why not?
[09:15] <chaudhary> histo: Weird proxy settings here :(
[09:15] <histo> ahh
[09:16] <histo> Braden`: how'd you upgrade?
[09:16] <chaudhary> Enterprise WEP, with PEAP mschapv2 and all that ...
[09:16] <Braden`> do-release-upgrade
[09:18] <chaudhary> histo: How do I figure out the correct version of lightdm-kde-greeter .deb I need?
[09:18] <chaudhary> My system is kubuntu 14.04 amd64
[09:18] <histo> chaudhary: can you dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[09:19] <chaudhary> Nope, not installed on that system.
[09:20] <dw1> chaudhary: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/kde/lightdm-kde-greeter
[09:23] <ronnie> solved in #apache
[09:23] <ronnie> thx histo
[09:24] <histo> ronnie: what was the issue?
[09:24] <histo> chaudhary: try in #kubuntu
[09:25] <ronnie> rights of the parent folders had no r,x
[09:25] <histo> ahh
[09:26] <ronnie> didn't know that was needed when symlinking
[09:28] <Guest54399> bom dia
[09:30]  * waver_ food
[09:30] <calmcoder> Data recovery, help: Ubuntu LiveCD 'fixing' partition table of a dismantled raid array, causing first disk partition table to be copied to second disk partition table. Testdisk deepscan doesn't show correct files for second disk recovered partition...
[09:33] <calmcoder> Clarification, windows box with 2x1.5TB drive, launched Ubuntu LiveCD to test something out, and on its startup it invasively rewrote partition tables because it thought it was a raid drive, never thought a LiveCD would screw with something so serious
[09:36] <abhie2e> how to install chkconfig in ubuntu?
[09:36] <Hexch> abhie2e: sysv-rc-conf is an alternate option for Ubuntu
[09:37] <abhie2e> ok
[09:37] <Hexch> abhie2e: cmd: sysv-rc-conf --list apache2
[09:37] <Therenho> yo..
[09:38] <abhie2e> Hexch, thanks
[09:38] <Therenho> how can I set  ubuntu@ip-10.x.x.x to something like ubuntu@hello?
[09:39] <Therenho> which doc should i set?
[09:39] <Hexch> Therenho: I think you need to do it on freenodes proxy serveres or something else
[09:40] <Hexch> search for freenode help channel
[09:41] <Therenho> hmm..ok..thanks.
[09:47] <tashfooq> Can somebody here help me configure my torrent client so that I can seed?
[09:49] <Radio-DEEJAY> Hallo World :-)   Please Vote and share my Amateur Radio Station in address " http://radiodeejay.caster.fm "
[09:49] <ObrienDave> should be automatic. which client
[09:50] <cfhowlett> Radio-DEEJAY spam = no vote.
[10:00] <glibb> p
[10:01] <glibb> out
[10:02] <Pilot_aus> hi all: not a ubunto install, but CENTOS. How can I change my gateway?
[10:02] <arun_> guys. can we modify Nanny ?
[10:03] <cfhowlett> Pilot_aus ask #centos - not supported here
[10:05] <skroon> after a while my ssh connection always freeze to my Ubuntu box, i've turned on TCPKeepAlive in sshd_config, but that doesnt' seem to be engouh, anyone that can help me out what i'm doing wrong?
[10:12] <Whoopie> Hi, I run Ubuntu 10.04 server as virtualbox guest. I had to reboot it because of kernel update, but now it hangs on boot. Even recovery mode doesn't work. How can I get more debug output to analyze? I tried "debug" grub option, but that doesn't increase verbosity.
[10:12] <Whoopie> Thanks for your help!
[10:13] <ikonia> Whoopie: get rid of the splash screen
[10:13] <ikonia> watch the boot process see what services it is hanging at
[10:13] <Whoopie> recovery mode doesn't have splash screen.
[10:13] <ikonia> or where in the boot process it is hanging
[10:14] <ikonia> also try the kernel that was in place before the upgrade, to make sure it is kernel specific
[10:14] <Whoopie> it's not kernel specific, tried both.
[10:14] <ikonia> sorry, I must have missunderstood what you said,
[10:15] <arun_> guys. can we modify Nanny ?
[10:15] <Whoopie> ikonia: no probs
[10:16] <ikonia> Whoopie: so you actually have no idea what's caused it, it was just the kernel reboot that made you aware of a problem
[10:16] <abhie2e> arun_, whose nanny?
[10:16] <arun_> abhie2e: http://ubuntu.ntc.net.np/pool/universe/n/nanny/
[10:17] <Whoopie> ikonia: right, and when starting in recovery mode, it hangs at "Skip stopping firewall: ufw (not enabled)"
[10:18] <ikonia> Whoopie: so boot from remote media, and disable the service before/after that job and see the impact
[10:19] <glibb> i go
[10:20] <abhie2e> arun_,  its open source software. you can get the source code and modify it.
[10:20] <Omnipotent> Well, I have ubuntu on VPS and I have static ip address present in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:20] <Whoopie> ikonia: I grep'ed for this term, but can't find the init script. How can I disable single user mode? I don't want the rc1.d scripts to be executed
[10:21] <Omnipotent> I want to configure a transparent proxy squid3... All the solutions I found tell me that I need to add eth1 as another interface in LAN
[10:21] <Omnipotent> Questions 1) The IP is pre-configured by the VPS people... its the public IP statically assigned to eth0... so I can't simply get eth1 in LAN
[10:22] <Omnipotent> 2) How would I even add eth1 ... its a VPS not a physical machine... so I am just supposed to add interface Logically?
[10:22] <arun_> abhie2e: are u sure, please check its COPYING file, it says , modifying not allowed :(
[10:22] <Omnipotent> Actually, there is a #squid ... I should ask this there :P
[10:24] <abhie2e> arun_, its gnome project. you are free to modify it
[10:24] <arun_> abhie2e: ok thanks dude !!!!
[10:24] <abhie2e> arun_, join there mailing list here https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Nanny and ask detailed questions
[10:25] <arun_> abhie2e: nope, thats the only thing I wanted , I can't wait for the msg reply
[10:26] <aledzadza> anyone else but me having wierd problems installing any packeges  getting a a zymteal error?
[10:32] <aledzadza> how do i go back to terminal from screen without destroying it?
[10:32] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hej!
[10:32] <Ben64> aledzadza: if i recall, you've been here for a couple days asking about zentyal without providing any information. pastebin stuff like "apt-get update" "apt-get dist-upgrade" and whatever commands and errors that are bringing you in here
[10:33] <aledzadza> Ben64: i pasted some pastebins before
[10:33] <Ben64> aledzadza: you've posted one, of a dpkg command
[10:35] <aledzadza> yeah but its strange that i had it working before haha
[10:37] <jrib> alex-io: ctrl-a d
[10:37] <jrib> erm
[10:38] <aledzadza> forgot my laptop charger :/
[10:39] <Omnipotent> Eh anyone knows about squid transparent proxy
[10:55] <Shadow007> :-D
[11:05] <Shadow007> test
[11:06] <Shadow007> anyone here can hear me ??
[11:06] <flo1546796> Shadow007, yes
[11:06] <Semor> I have install keepalived by apt ,but why there is no keepalived.conf file exist ?
[11:11] <danley> Hi, I am trying to install Ubuntu Server 14.04 on my System. I have 4 500GB HDDs, all the same type. I want to put all of them in an LVM container, however for one of them, sdb, it can't initialize it, getting the error message "Can't open /dev/sdb1 exclusively. Mounted filesystem?". I have no mounted FS, I dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX all of the 4 drives, dmsetup ls finds no devices.... So I am running out of ideas. Do you guys know what might be
[11:11] <danley> happening here?
[11:12] <flo1546796> hi everyone, i try to install ubuntu 14.04 which don't have support for my computer wired network interface. Does anyone know a documentation about drivers integration on 'ubuntu-installer' ?
[11:13] <danley> flo1546796: what kind of nic do you have? are you using a USB stick with persistence to install?
[11:14] <zgbit> where am i
[11:14] <zgbit> help
[11:14] <zgbit> help
[11:14] <m1dnight__> 42, obviously
[11:14] <cfhowlett> !topic | zgbit
[11:14] <Shadow007> is anyone here has Cinnamon DE repository ??
[11:17] <OerHeks> Shadow007, there is only a 'nightly' PPA, https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/cinnamon-nightly but is not supported here, report bugs to the ppa owner
[11:17] <Shadow007> i got a problem when add this repository into my ubuntu
[11:18] <Shadow007> anyone has same problem with me ??
[11:18] <OerHeks> Shadow007, bad luck
[11:18] <flo1546796> danley,  My nic is a Atheros AR8152 v2.0, and i process my installation with a PXE server (netboot : http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/)
[11:18] <Shadow007> meh :/
[11:20] <danley> flo1546796: you'll have to download the driver for that... if you have to stick to PXE boot I suggest installing it on the netboot image
[11:20] <Munster> \o
[11:22] <newbie|4> How do I modify my menu and make a sub menu for all the programs of Libre Office?
[11:22] <newbie|4> I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (64 bit)
[11:22] <Shadow007> i never try it before
[11:22] <Shadow007> newbie|4
[11:23] <flo1546796> danley, ok thank you
[11:23] <newbie|4> I have such filled menus that I want to make them easier to find things in ...
[11:27] <m1dnight__> Could anyone help me out with the following:
[11:28] <m1dnight__> I have tweaked my bashrc file such that it always executes "tmux attach -d"
[11:28] <m1dnight__> this way, when I open a terminal using ctrl alt T, it always reopens my current terminal
[11:28] <m1dnight__> however, it seems to have quirks in it
[11:28] <m1dnight__> now i'd like to see if there is a terminal window open, an dif not open one
[11:28] <m1dnight__> otherwise, close it and reopn
[11:28] <m1dnight__> is that possible?
[11:29] <newbie|4> m1dnight__: Oh, how I wish I had an answer ...
[11:34] <Munster> m1dnight__, yakuake, or open a different terminal from the menu or run command
[11:37] <OerHeks> Munster +1 but yakuake is KDE, guake is gnome-based
[11:37] <OerHeks> !info guake
[11:37] <Munster> OerHeks, ok I couldn't remember the ubuntu version
[11:37] <OerHeks> Munster, me too, i had to search for it
[11:37] <n1n0> after installing gdm display manager, couldn't log onto 14.04, had to reinstall
[11:38] <Sway> So, i've been having weird problems with my Ubuntu install. After about 10-30 minutes, sometimes less than that, usually random times; Everythings all good and working perfectly fine, I can no longer click and drag things with my mouse. I can do everything with my keyboard, everything runs properly, no abnormal spikes in resources, etc.. Anyone have any ideas? :|
[11:38] <OerHeks> n1n0, currently ubuntu uses lightdm
[11:38] <Guest15178> Hello
[11:38] <Stanislav> Ubuntu sucks. For real OS check http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Windows-8.1/productID.288401200
[11:38] <cfhowlett> !fud|Stanislav
[11:39] <Munster> OerHeks, I'm not sure what he meant, I was guessing :)
[11:39] <Guest15178> thats what todays leaders are doing
[11:39] <glibb> leave
[11:39] <Stanislav> !fud|cfhowlett
[11:39] <DJones> Stanislav: Please don't troll, this is Ubuntu support channel
[11:40] <Stanislav> With Windows, you don't need to visit some crappy irc support channels, because it works.
[11:41] <n1n0> OerHeks cause found gdm more convenitent in 13.10, actually, couldn't login with lightdm, which also happened on 14.04 (the system fell into the login loop), so after installing gdm from tty, wasn't able to even start the login screen
[11:41] <cfhowlett> Stanislav your pitiful act was weak the last time you tried this.  it's weak now.  take your debate over to #ubuntu-offtopic if you must.  It's just courtesy.  You HAVE learned about "courtesy" right?
[11:41] <Munster> Stanislav, we don't need your suggestions ...most here have already tried windows and some still run it by dual booting
[11:41] <hutch> We come here to help people
[11:41] <dasmith91> Stanislav: Why are you here then? Obvious troll is obvious.
[11:41] <jasabella> have there been any reports of problems with 14.04 and virtualbox?
[11:41] <cfhowlett> this ^^^^
[11:42] <cfhowlett> jasabella yes.
[11:42] <Stanislav> hutch, I'm helping people too, by recommending them real OS.
[11:42] <cfhowlett> jasabella as always - but if you want help with YOUR specific issue, state the specifics
[11:42] <cfhowlett> DJones tyvm
[11:43] <jasabella> cfhowlett... it's been inconsistent: like apt-get would seemingly freeze, install wouldnt complete, performance problems
[11:44] <jasabella> so just curious about if i'm the only one :) expecting teething problems as with any new release
[11:44] <hutch> Stanislav we don't force anyone to use Ubuntu or any other os. but obv you feel that windows 8 needs your support, that really is the pits
[11:44] <cfhowlett> jasabella for vbox, I suggest 32 bit AND make sure you've md5sum'd the ISO.
[11:44] <jasabella> yup
[11:44] <cfhowlett> hutch he's been kicked.  but he'll return.  buntuhate seems to be a reason to live for some
[11:45] <Munster> ok, time to use the ignore option
[11:45] <JenniferB2> Hi folks! I have been experimenting with some setttings ... now everything seesm to have been reset .. however, when I for isntance increase the number of workspaces nothing happens. Chaning the hotkeys in the settings, nothing happens .. even in unity tweak tool and cssm .. nothing happens ...
[11:45] <OerHeks> n1n0, returning to login loop, that is a known issue with .Xautority
[11:45] <dasmith91> Here's where we find out that Stanislav is actually a Microsfot employee and this is a desperate marketing attempt.
[11:45] <cfhowlett> Munster I must be doing it wrong, cuz it won't work for me.
[11:45] <Munster> cfhowlett, he's back already
[11:45] <OerHeks> n1n0, happens sometimes with upgrade, not that often
[11:45] <dasmith91> Microsoft*
[11:46] <cfhowlett> dasmith91 no matter.  next problem?
[11:47] <Munster> wiped W8.1 from this laptop the same day I received it , requires 6 partitions to run properly ...now that's efficeincy :)
[11:48] <n1n0> OerHeks i upgraded 13 from the previous, but 14.04 was clean install
[11:48] <Munster> cfhowlett, which irc client ?
[11:48] <ThatGuy> can someone help with a little css problem
[11:48] <cfhowlett> Munster xChat app installed
[11:49] <n1n0> OerHeks how should it be prevented from happening again?
[11:49] <ThatGuy> how do i fix the 1px line under my  (http://ticket.lemonjuice.tk/)
[11:49] <ThatGuy> tabs*
[11:49] <Munster> cfhowlett, I always found xchat messy to find options in
[11:49] <OerHeks> n1n0, upgrade as in package update, not sidtro upgrade, there is no prevention for this 'bug' that hits 0.5% of the users AFAIK.
[11:50] <bcvery> ThatGuy, this is Ubuntu support, try #css
[11:50] <OerHeks> sidtro-distro
[11:50] <ThatGuy> wierd told it to join html lol
[11:50] <ThatGuy> wierd
[11:51] <n1n0> OerHeks thank you for the info
[11:52] <OerHeks> n1n0, next time, login to tty, and check the owner of .Xautority, it should be set to your user, not root, that is the bug
[11:53] <n1n0> OerHeks so what is the command line to do it?
[11:53] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1036830
[11:54] <n1n0> also, upon the installation, marked it so that upon the booting, there's no password request, yet when it goes into standby, requests the password
[11:56] <Sik> Hello, I changed the video driver and now Ubuntu won't boot. Fail safe mode isn't helping either. How do I restore the old driver from the terminal? "X.org X server" (AMD hardware) Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit
[11:58] <JenniferB2> Is there a way to reinstall ubuntu 14.04 and keeping one folder under /
[11:58] <bviktor> how do i upgrade to a new release without upgrading grub?
[11:58] <JenniferB2> Or is there a command I can reset the entire ubuntu installtion I am on, since something has become broken
[11:59] <JenniferB2> rather than reinstalling it all
[12:00] <Munster> JenniferB2, what's broken ?
[12:02] <Sik> Munster: do you know anything about resetting video drivers from the command line?
[12:02] <Munster> bviktor, why? you just need to upgrade grub after upgrading and it will see all the OSs
[12:03] <bviktor> yeah, except grub upgrade fails
[12:03] <bviktor> known issue, with like 830 points
[12:04] <Munster> Sik, did you upgrade the driver from the software center ?
[12:05] <Sik> From Additional Drivers
[12:05] <Munster> bviktor, which ubuntu version?
[12:05] <Sik> Switched to the AMD ones, then rebooted, then got stuck with a black screen :/
[12:06] <Sik> (I switched drivers because of a framerate issue and wanted to see if that fixed it, but now I can't even revert that since low graphics mode apparently doesn't work here)
[12:06] <Munster> Sik, then remove the driver in the software center
[12:06] <Sik> ...that's the issue, I can't get there because I can't boot the GUI at all, not even in failsafe mode
[12:06] <Sik> I'm running off the terminal right now
[12:09] <bviktor> 13.10->14.04
[12:09] <bviktor> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1274320
[12:09] <Munster> Sik, to find the drivername,  lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' then remove it
[12:10] <bviktor> and also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/1313784
[12:10] <Munster> bviktor, raid array ?
[12:11] <Sik> Munster: OK, brb, will check
[12:11] <bviktor> nope
[12:11] <bviktor> lvm
[12:11] <bviktor> for me it's "vgs invocation"
[12:13] <abhie2e> where can i download the non-livecd version of the ubuntu 14.04?
[12:14] <Kartagis> abhie2e: no such thing
[12:14] <Shadow007> abhie2e non-live cd
[12:14] <DJones> abhie2e: There's only the minimal cd now, the alternate install disc has been discontinued
[12:14] <Shadow007> ?????
[12:14] <DJones> !minimal | abhie2e
[12:14] <abhie2e> DJones, does minimal cd or live cd works with cobbler?
[12:14] <DJones> abhie2e: I don't know, I've not heard of cobbler
[12:15] <abhie2e> ok
[12:15] <Sik> Munster: the command didn't do anything useful, tried variants of it and still nothing (I wonder if it's because I'm running off the terminal)
[12:15] <DJones> abhie2e: Just looking, looks like thats aimed at Ubuntu server installs
[12:16] <abhie2e> DJones, oh yes. let me check that.
[12:16] <DJones> abhie2e: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cobbler/Import  Looks like it works with the Server & minimal iso's, along with the old alternate iso's
[12:17] <abhie2e> DJones, okey
[12:18] <Sik> Does anybody here know how to get what video driver is currently installed? I'm on the terminal so it seems lspci isn't helping (it's the AMD proprietary driver, if you happen to know the name)
[12:18] <Shadow007> hey,any one here ever try Ubuntu on Nexus phone ??
[12:19] <DJones> Shadow007: Probably the best place to ask that is #ubuntu-touch
[12:19] <Shadow007> owh,so sorry,
[12:19] <Shadow007> :-D
[12:19] <DJones> Shadow007: No worries, just thinking thats the main channel for the phone/tablet releases
[12:20] <Frank__> Sik: click on the ubuntu icon, then search for 'additional drivers'
[12:20] <Munster> Sik, xserver-xorg-video-ati
[12:20] <Sik> Frank__: I'm on the terminal, can't get to the GUI not even in failsafe - Munster: thanks
[12:20] <Frank__> Munster: he's asking for the AMD driver.
[12:20] <Munster> Frank__, amd is ati
[12:21] <Frank__> oh right
[12:21] <Frank__> I think I'm living 10 years in the past.
[12:21] <Sik> lol yeah their old name - now checking (have to quit because the other terminals don't show the login prompt...)
[12:21] <Frank__> I'm trying to build an ARM image to boot in QEMU
[12:22] <n1n0> do i need to have windows partition in order to run wine?
[12:22] <Frank__> this page tells me to install 'linux-image-versatile' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch/QemuDebootstrap#Kernel
[12:22] <Frank__> Except that package only exists in lucid, not in precise
[12:22] <Frank__> Which package do I need to install the latest kernel belonging to precise?
[12:23] <wamson90045> where are lubuntu software centen?
[12:23] <OerHeks> Frank__, join #ubuntu-arm for support, that page is not updated since 2010
[12:24] <Frank__> ok thanks
[12:26] <xubuntuuser85> hello, I am currently trying to install xubuntu 14.04 from a live USB
[12:26] <xubuntuuser85> however, as there is absolutely no progress bar or status indication, I am wondering whether it is blocked or really installing
[12:27] <xubuntuuser85> To crown it all, my laptop has no HDD status led.
[12:27] <xubuntuuser85> *LED
[12:27] <Baako> hi guys. I have mounted a cd but it doesn't read it. it says blank but when i put it on my windows 7 laptop i can see all the files in the cd
[12:27] <Baako> any ideas why ubuntu 13.10 can't read it?
[12:27] <Baako> the cd was burn on a windows 7 OS
[12:28] <[[thufir]]> I'm ssh'ed into digital ocean and want to unzip and install sugarcrm.  however, I keep getting permissions problems.  I'm kinda under the gun.  what should the ownership and permissions be set to, please?
[12:28] <xubuntuuser85> Baako, I really don't know, but maybe there are new filesystem types used by windows (I’d check that at any rate)
[12:30] <abhie2e> xubuntuuser85, maybe press esc and it will show you?
[12:32] <Munster> Baako, what kind of data is on the cd?
[12:32] <sik> OK, so I removed the ATI drivers and restored the VESA ones... and Ubuntu STILL won't boot. The screen blinks a few times in the terminal login screen then throws me back to the terminal. startx doesn't work. What do I do?
[12:32] <[[thufir]]> how can fix these permissions for installing sugarCRM?
[12:33] <Munster> sik, sudo service gdm start
[12:34] <Munster> or  sudo service lightdm start
[12:36] <xubuntuuser85> abhie2e, no, pressing esc doesn't do the trick…
[12:36] <abhie2e> dont know then
[12:36] <[[thufir]]> pardon, forgot to include link.  These are the errors I'm getting for installing sugarCRM, I'm trying to fix the permissions as described, but not making much progress.  errors:  http://pastebin.com/5jAaDXH8
[12:36] <xubuntuuser85> never mind, I should probably just retry…
[12:36] <sik> Munster: "job is already running"
[12:36] <sik> (at least now the other terminals are working)
[12:37] <Munster> Sik, is the xserver-xorg-video-ati driver installe?
[12:38] <Munster> err installed
[12:38] <arun_> hi guys, can I access my ubuntu one files that I had in the server?
[12:38] <sik> Munster: removed that, then installed xserver-xorg-video-vesa
[12:39] <relue271> #llvm
[12:39] <Munster> sik, why ?
[12:39] <arun_> hi guys, can I access my ubuntu one files that I had in the server?
[12:39] <sik> Because the ATI driver was the one that broke first -.-' I was trying to restore the driver that was here originally
[12:41] <Munster> sik, the vesa driver is barely capable , don't think it's the default
[12:43] <kostkon> arun_, no, only download them as a zip file at http://one.ubuntu.com/
[12:43] <sik> Munster: default was "X.org X server" and apt-cache search listed it as such :/
[12:45] <arun_> kostkon: don't we have ubuntu-one app support to do that ??
[12:45] <arun_> kostkon: isn't there any other alternative for it ??
[12:45] <sik> Munster: there are free AMD drivers, right? Do you happen to know the package name for it? (or anybody here, for that matter)
[12:47] <sik> Huh... xserver-xorg-video-radeon seems to have the same name now that I look at the list again
[12:48] <Guest____> hi guys, i have question
[12:48] <Munster> sik, yeah that's it , the radeon should work
[12:48] <ncr0> is ubuntu kernel based on debian kernel?
[12:48] <sik> OK trying radeon
[12:48] <k_sze> Just installed 14.04 in VirtualBox on OS X Mavericks.
[12:49] <kostkon> arun_, it has already been shut down so the client does not work anymore, only option left is to download the zip file containing all your files until july 31st. What kind alternative are you looking for
[12:49] <k_sze> when I log in, I only see the wallpaper, *nothing else*
[12:49] <kostkon> of*
[12:49] <arun_> kostkon: I mean can't we transfer files from ubuntu one to dropbox ?
[12:50] <kostkon> arun_, you are right, you can also transfer your files to another cloud service
[12:53] <arun_> kostkon: can u provide me how ?
[12:53] <ozz> hi
[12:53] <kostkon> arun_, login at http://one.ubuntu.com/ and you'll be presented with such an option
[12:54] <CooLBALL> can I put everything in 1 directory?
[12:54] <CooLBALL> can it be ext 4
[12:54] <CooLBALL> ?
[12:54] <ozz> Any suggestions in creating standalone python executables in linux? I'm struggling with PyInstaller
[12:55] <ikonia> ozz: what do you mean stand alone python executables ?
[12:55] <ikonia> ozz: what do you want to be able to do ?
[12:55] <ozz> Package and make they python script executable
[12:55] <ikonia> CooLBALL: you can put anything you want in a directory
[12:55] <ikonia> ozz: as in operating system packages ?
[12:55] <priuon> hello. What partitioning sheme would be optimal for use with multiple DE's?
[12:55] <Sik> OK, that STILL doesn't work, I'm stuck with a black screen. Do I need to do anything to set the video driver besides apt-get?
[12:56] <tiblock> Hi. I have ubuntu 12.04.2 with custom repositories and "apt-get update" says he dont have one key, what is command to add keys?
[12:56] <ikonia> priuon: DE's make no difference
[12:56] <ikonia> tiblock: contact the admin and get the key
[12:56] <ozz> ikonia: yeah
[12:56] <priuon> ikonia, ignore that assumption then
[12:56] <CooLBALL> what if I have only a / partition (no boot) and I make it ext4?
[12:56] <tiblock> ikonia, no, theres some command that can add keys, but i dont remember it
[12:56] <ikonia> ozz: so there are guides on the network making .deb (debian based) packages
[12:56] <ikonia> tiblock: do you have the key ?
[12:56] <Pici> ozz: #python is probably the best place to ask for this.
[12:57] <ikonia> CooLBALL: that's fine
[12:57] <tiblock> ikonia, i have ID of key
[12:57] <ikonia> tiblock: do you have the key ?
[12:57] <ozz> Pici: #python is only for regisetred users
[12:57] <Pici> ozz: then register. it takes 2 minutes.
[12:57] <priuon> ikonia, i have a home,boot,swap and root partition atm. I would like to keep all the downloades packages upon reinstall. How would i acomplish this?
[12:58] <arun_> kostkon: thanks dude , it worked fine!!!
[12:58] <CooLBALL> my install stops at: configuring b??wl-kernel-headers
[12:58] <kostkon> arun_, np
[12:58] <ikonia> priuon: just backup the package cache
[12:58] <tiblock> ikonia, okay, i found command "apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net --recv-keys <ID OF KEY HERE>" thank you
[12:58] <ikonia> tiblock: if you have the id of the key, it should already be in place, so the fact that it's not in place suggests teh key has been removed
[12:58] <priuon> ikonia. is there a shell utility for it?
[12:58] <ikonia> a shell utility ?
[12:59] <priuon> ikonia, like apt-get.
[12:59] <ikonia> I have no ideea about that
[12:59] <ikonia> I've never heard of one that takes a backup of your cache directory
[12:59] <Sik> Really dumb question: if I have a LiveCD of Ubuntu 14.04, can I use it to change the video driver? (doubt it, but would help me if that's the case)
[12:59] <priuon> ikonia, where is the cache located?
[12:59] <ikonia> priuon: I want to say /var/apt/cache, but you'll need to check, sorry I dont have an ubuntu box to verify
[12:59] <priuon> ikonia. It's a connectivity issue
[13:00] <ikonia> whats a connectibity issue ?
[13:00] <ikonia> connectivity
[13:00] <priuon> ikonia, /var/cache/apt/ it is
[13:00] <ikonia> it's a file system directory, how can it be a connectivity issue >?
[13:00] <priuon> dataplan
[13:01] <priuon> ikonia, i'm talking about my internet connection
[13:01] <Munster> Sik, what is your gpu ?
[13:01] <Sik> Munster: not sure, some AMD 4xxx GPU (it's a laptop I just got from a friend)
[13:02] <Sik> Don't remember the exact number x_x
[13:02] <priuon> would a partition mount for /var/ be reasonable then?
[13:02] <Sik> (there are two GPUs actually but I imagine the other one isn't booting)
[13:03] <Munster> Sik, lspci | grep VGA
[13:03] <Sik> Gimme a sec (ugh, terminal)
[13:04] <Sik> Munster: 4225/4250 (the other is 6400/7400)
[13:04] <ExtremeDevilz> I was thinking to use Ubuntu :\ but Im not really good with linux
[13:06] <Emily21>  You can find funny videos here. http://bit.ly/1rfmae6
[13:06] <rimad> hello, has nvidia locking up problem been fixed on 14.04? i read a bug report and it seems that majority of users are affected.
[13:06] <Sway> Welp, never mind my question from earlier if anyone was possibly looking into it; Seems a dist-upgrade fixed it somehow heh
[13:06] <Sway> ExtremeDevilz, Ubuntu is a good place to start if you do want to learn :P
[13:06] <ExtremeDevilz> well Im a sort of hobby programmer
[13:07] <ExtremeDevilz> so I learn Java Programming over my spare time
[13:07] <Sway> ah
[13:07] <sbrunet> Hi all, How can I configure Tomcat 7.0.47 to rolling all log files (localhost, manager...)  during only 7 days?
[13:07] <Munster> Sik, to be more specific, lspci -knn | egrep -A 3 'VGA|3D' need to know this first
[13:08] <ExtremeDevilz> well I remember sway I had issue installing my gfx card on Ubuntu
[13:08] <ExtremeDevilz> it made the screen went black
[13:08] <Sik> Munster: -knn?
[13:08] <ExtremeDevilz> ATI 3400 HD
[13:08] <hebz0rl> hi im mounting /home via nfs and was wondering if i can wait until /home is mounted. i already added "mounted MOUNTPOINT=/home" to lightdm but was wondering how i could halt the tty login in the same way
[13:08] <Munster> Sik, yup
[13:08] <Sik> OK (I have to write down this stuff x_x)
[13:10] <rimad> anyone got ubuntu running on zbook 15?
[13:10] <WFeather_Cloud> question - For running a print server off of ubuntu , whats the best way
[13:10] <WFeather_Cloud> rest of the network is windows (mainly 7, some 8)
[13:10] <WFeather_Cloud> (err, some vista)
[13:11] <ExtremeDevilz> I don't know Im confused if I should run Ubuntu at all
[13:11] <lenny___> if you have to ask if you should run linux or not
[13:11] <lenny___> you shouldn't
[13:12] <ExtremeDevilz> well cause the last time I did I ran into a black screen
[13:12] <ExtremeDevilz> due to installing ati gfx card
[13:12] <Munster> ExtremeDevilz, this for ubuntu support after you've installed ubuntu, not before ...we're not here to convince you just to help
[13:13] <cfhowlett> ExtremeDevilz you don't need to install it to test it.  install virtualbox in windows.  install *buntu to vbox.  decide.
[13:13] <ExtremeDevilz> cfhowlett, that is slow
[13:14] <lenny___> that's a waste of time
[13:14] <cfhowlett> ExtremeDevilz then install it and be done
[13:14] <Sik> Munster: VGA compatible controller [0300] Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4225/4250
[13:14] <Munster> ati has become difficult on linux
[13:14] <WFeather_Cloud> ExtremeDevilz: run a live disk if thats your issue
[13:14] <Sik> ][1002:9712
[13:14] <Sik> ]
[13:14] <WFeather_Cloud> and test that way
[13:14] <Sik> Stupid keyboard stop making me press enter
[13:14] <Munster> Sik, which driver is indicated?
[13:14] <WFeather_Cloud> thoughts on print server question?  is CUPS my best option ?
[13:15] <Sik> Munster: for that? Nothing :/
[13:15] <cfhowlett> WFeather_Cloud yes, I do believe CUPS is the solution
[13:15] <maxvi> I try to find tile manager to work at start without any set-up in config files. I want see top panel ubuntu (I try i3 there are no panel)
[13:15] <Sik> The 6400M/7400M is similar and it DOES say a kernel driver in use though (fglrx_pci)
[13:15] <lenny___> WFeather_Cloud, you need the samba server package, cups and a lot of petience
[13:15] <WFeather_Cloud> samba is native in ubuntu is it not ?
[13:15] <Munster> Sik, 2 gpus ?
[13:15] <WFeather_Cloud> (not an issue to get it installed)
[13:15] <hebz0rl> maxvi, try awesome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awesome_(window_manager)
[13:16] <CooLBALL> my install stops at: configuring b??wl-kernel-headers
[13:16] <Sik> Yeah, though I assume one of them isn't working (it's one of those laptops where the GPU is meant to switch depending on the workload)
[13:16] <Munster> no wonder
[13:16] <Sik> I don't mind if only one is functional though
[13:16] <Kolibir> Hello, does anyone have a solution for the shockwave crashing on chromium
[13:16] <WFeather_Cloud> lenny___: mind if i query ?
[13:17] <Panacea> Yeah, don't use chromium
[13:17] <ExtremeDevilz> ok guys I will be back later
[13:17] <lenny___> WFeather_Cloud, yes, dont just read about what a samba server is
[13:17] <Sik> Munster: note that Ubuntu worked just fine on install :/ (though there were framerate issues with some OpenGL programs)
[13:17] <WFeather_Cloud> oh im fine with samba
[13:18] <Munster> Sik, well you have to get one to work at least when you're booting , and install mesa-utils for frame rate on OpenGL options
[13:18] <lenny___> WFeather_Cloud, ok, so just install the samba server packages and enable the print server
[13:18] <Sik> Munster: OK, here's the thing, how do I get the graphics hardware to boot -_-'
[13:18] <CooLBALL> i have no idea what to do when my install hangs up at: preparing b??wl-kernel-headers
[13:18] <maxvi> does exist tile manager which work inside unity ?
[13:19] <Sik> I'd like not having to reinstall Ubuntu
[13:19] <Ditii> Hello All
[13:19] <Munster> Sik, with 2 ati gpus , that's a problem I'm not ve
[13:19] <priuon> my pulseaudio trayicon disappeared with dist-upgrade. How can i get it back?
[13:19] <Munster> very familair with]
[13:20] <Sik> Should I reinstall Ubuntu? I'm annoyed because I'm just done installing most programs
[13:21] <lenny___> priuon, google "Lennart Poettering" and ask him why an incompetent guy like him is allowed to fat finger the linux audio stack
[13:21] <cfhowlett> Sik 2 gpu?  reinstall probably won't help.  you need to suss out how to deal with dual gpus
[13:21] <Munster> Sik, well, unless anyone else has some advice, yes :P
[13:21] <WFeather_Cloud> lenny___:  - samaba server has printer server in it?  Ive only used it for sharing directories
[13:21] <Sik> Ugh... I hope I can do it without having to wipe the disk :P
[13:21] <Sik> bbl
[13:21] <Munster> cfhowlett, not optimus , it's 2 ati gpus
[13:22] <m1dnight__> Sway: What kind of mouse do you use?
[13:22] <chron53> i'm a newby. recently installed gnome beside winxp pro. the xp pro is present on the boot menu, but won't boot.  can someone help?
[13:22] <hsnopi> morning
[13:22] <m1dnight__> (oh snap, I was seriously behind on my backlog, sorry)
[13:22] <m1dnight__> okay nvm
[13:23] <m1dnight__> Anyway, I had the same issue with my RAT7 mouse. There is a fix online. (I.e., trying with a more standard mouse might shed some light on this)
[13:23] <trijntje> chron53: can you run 'sudo fdisk -l' without the quotes in a terminal and put the output on pastebin.com?
[13:23] <Sway> oh m1dnight__ I found the issue shortly after posting that. After days and days of freaking out finally fixed it i think. did an apt-get dist-upgrade and it seems to be fine now for whatever reason.
[13:23] <Sway> It didn't have anything to do with my mouse. :p
[13:24] <chron53> yes
[13:24] <chron53> i'll give it a try
[13:25] <m1dnight__> okay :D
[13:25] <priuon> lenny___, that doesn't seem to be expedient.
[13:27] <lenny___> priuon, it is... letting Lennart's employer know that he's doing damage it's going to save linux in the long run
[13:27] <Kolibir> Panacea: What browser do you recommend then?
[13:28] <cfhowlett> !behelpful|lenny___
[13:28] <Panacea> Kolibir: I'm using the latest chrome and its working fine
[13:28] <lenny___> that's not eithr offtopic or a joke
[13:28] <Kolibir> i tried the chrome 1st
[13:28] <Kolibir> but the same issue
[13:29] <Sik> ARGH, turns out that the CD I have is empty, not a LiveCD -_-' The only LiveCD I have is from 10.10... Help? Any ideas for reinstalling Ubuntu 14.04?
[13:29] <cfhowlett> lenny___ as this is the support channel, I'd suggest it is.  But as you feel so strongly, why don't YOU "contact the employer" or file a bug report.  You know ... something do USEFUL towards solving the technical issue.
[13:30] <Kolibir> Panacea: the internal flash in google chrome crashes just like in chromium
[13:30] <lenny___> my advice is uselful in the long run, as I specified
[13:30] <chron53> trijntje, the screenshot should be there...
[13:31] <OerHeks> Kolibir, shockwave is old, flash is current. what makes your chrome with flash crash ?
[13:31] <trijntje> chron53: can you paste the url here?
[13:31] <Kyan`> hi
[13:31] <Kyan`> do someone knows a tool to convert .rtf to .pdf?
[13:31] <cfhowlett> lenny___ in the short term, this does nothing to solve the original problem
[13:31] <chron53> http://pastebin.com/mvqk3HPY
[13:31] <cfhowlett> Kyan` open the doc in libreoffice and print to .pdf
[13:31] <Panacea> Kolibir: WHat version do you use? Its working fine on my install
[13:31] <OerHeks> Kyan`, open in libreoffice, export as pdf
[13:31] <Kolibir> I can't watch twitch with neither with chrome or chromium, and I have no idea how to fix it
[13:32] <lenny___> cfhowlett, so what do you want from me? I offered a long term solution (gettinf rid of Lennart) and that'a all I know
[13:32] <Kyan`> OerHeks, the doc is 400mb, more of 10000 pages, i need split it before and i don't know how to do it
[13:32] <cfhowlett> lenny___ thank you.  moving on ...
[13:32] <Kyan`> so i tought that converting it into pdf made things much easier
[13:33] <lenny___> a tool to convert rtf to pdf is openoffice
[13:33] <trijntje> chron53: ok, so it looks like the first partition is the windows partition. Can you run 'sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub' in a terminal, do you see that it detects windows in the output?
[13:34] <Kolibir> Panacea: The newest I think
[13:35] <Panacea> Kolibir: Weird =/
[13:35] <Kolibir> Panacea: did you install flash seperately?
[13:35] <ddman> How do i mirror a site that has username/password as login ?
[13:36] <chron53> yes, it does.
[13:37] <chron53> rick@rick-MS-7253:~$ sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub
[13:37] <chron53> /dev/sda1:Microsoft Windows XP Professional:Windows:chain
[13:37] <chron53> Generating grub configuration file ...
[13:37] <chron53> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-29-generic
[13:37] <chron53> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-29-generic
[13:37] <chron53> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-24-generic
[13:37] <unopaste> chron53 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[13:38] <chron53> looks like i'm learning the hard way
[13:38] <chron53> my apologies
[13:38] <Panacea> Kolibir: No it came with chrome's install if I remember correctly
[13:39] <Kolibir> Panacea: Ok, I just got to keep troubleshooting
[13:39] <Sik> Hello? Does anybody know how to reinstall Ubuntu 14.04? The only thing I have is the root terminal, I'm completely locked out of the GUI
[13:39] <ReturnOfTheGlide> restricted-extras and restricted-addons
[13:39] <ReturnOfTheGlide> is good package
[13:39] <Sik> And no, I don't have any other computers available
[13:39] <cfhowlett> !password|Sik
[13:40] <Panacea> Kolibir: Goodluck ;)
[13:40] <Sik> ubottu: no, video drivers broke up and I can't restore the old one
[13:40] <Sik> ...
[13:40] <Sik> Derp :\
[13:40] <ReturnOfTheGlide> Derpian will rule the word
[13:40] <Sik> cfhowlett: video drivers broke up, not a password issue
[13:40] <ReturnOfTheGlide> world*
[13:41] <fateisace> Sik, you can download an iso and burn a cd/ mount to usb through the terminal
[13:41] <cfhowlett> Sik this ^^^
[13:41] <Frank> how do I remove an image that was created by mk-sbuild?
[13:41] <Sik> How do I do that?
[13:41] <chron53> trijntje, it does detect windows....i erroneously pasted output here...that won't happen again.
[13:41] <yeats> Sik: how did you install it in the first place?
[13:42] <fateisace> Sik, what architecture are you running
[13:42] <Sik> Dunno, a friend did it for me (so no, I don't have the install media with me, otherwise I'd have just used that)
[13:42] <Sik> fateisace: Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit
[13:42] <trijntje> chron53: what do you see exactly when booting XP? It could be a windows problem, since grub starts windows properly
[13:44] <fateisace> Sik, you should be able to type this into the terminal and get the 64bit iso: 'wget http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso'
[13:44] <__positron> Hey Guys. I've got a system with 128 Gig RAM. Are there any specific kernel configs to be enabled while compiling a new kernel to support such a huge RAM?
[13:45]  * cfhowlett didn't know computers even CAME with with 128 G of ram!
[13:45]  * yeats uses ubuntu server on machines with that much and more without any special kernel config
[13:45] <fateisace> After it's done you can look up how to mount the iso to a usb using dd
[13:45] <chron53> trijntje, i see a text menu with ubuntu, ubuntu options, 2 types of testmems, and then windows xp Pro.  All boot options work except xp pro.  When xp pro is selected, the screen blanks for a moment, then goes back to the boot menu.
[13:46] <Sik> fateisace: OK, though question, what's the URL for the minimal ISO? I'd rather use my 256MB pendrive than my 8GB one
[13:46] <trijntje> __positron: should work, just be sure to use 64bit, 128G RAM is not that much
[13:46] <fateisace> Hold on
[13:46] <trijntje> chron53: that sounds like windows XP is crashing and rebooting the pc
[13:47] <yeats> __positron: in my experience, no need to compile your own kernel - I've used the ones from the repos with no issues for years
[13:47] <__positron> trijntje: Yeah, but the stupid project people in here don't want to use 64-bit kernel as their tools are 32-bit.
[13:47] <fateisace> Sik: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[13:47] <trijntje> __positron: in that case you need pae, but I'm not sure what the maximum amount of RAM for pae is
[13:47] <trijntje> !pae
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> trijntje: 3.2Gb RAM per thread
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> trijntje: 32bit can access up to 64Gb ;)
[13:48] <__positron> yeats: The problem is, if I install a normal kernel (32-bit) without PAE, the system detects only 3Gig of RAM. If I download a new kernel and compile with PAE enabled, my diskio just sucks. Diskio is as low as 1MiB/s
[13:48] <Sik> fateisace: OK, one last thing: how do I burn it on the pendrive?
[13:48] <__positron> trijntje: With PAE it takes upto 64Gig
[13:49] <morning_star> sik you will need netbootin iirc
[13:49] <fateisace> no, you can use dd in the terminal
[13:49] <morning_star> oh my bad was thinkking he was on windows... (goes back to corner)
[13:49] <yeats> __positron: yeah - you might investigate what it would take to run the 32-bit tools on a 64-bit OS?
[13:49] <chron53> trijntje, don't think so as it happens in 1-2 seconds.  definitely no system restart.
[13:50] <fateisace> Sik: 'dd if="ubuntu.iso" of="/dev/sd*"' You will have to check what your usb flash drive is
[13:50] <trijntje> chron53: a crash, not a restart. Grub passes the boot proces over to windows, so anything that happens after that is with windows, not ubuntu or grub
[13:50] <fateisace> With 'lsblk'
[13:50] <Sik> sdb1, it always appears like that
[13:50] <yeats> __positron: you can install 32-bit libraries in 64-bit (just append ':i386' to the end)
[13:50] <trijntje> Sik: and don't make a typo or you will destroy all data on your pc
[13:50] <__positron> yeats: I know that I need ia32-libs and I use it that way. But the other people aren't that comfortable in using it. So why I need a disastrous configuration on a colossal machine.
[13:51] <Sik> OK gonna get the iso
[13:51] <Sik> bbl
[13:52] <yeats> __positron: that sounds like a true dilemma then. :-/
[13:52] <yeats> __positron: maybe work up a proof-of-concept on a test machine so you can show them that it works fine?
[13:52] <__positron> yeats: Yup. It is. Is there a technical restriction for the poor diskio?
[13:53] <__positron> yeats: mm. That should be the next step I guess.
[13:54] <thecha> __positron→ hello __positron please kindly help me with thisi have a ubuntu 7 installed along with my win7 and now suddenly the windows wors less an less well
[13:54] <inerkick> I get this error. Kindly help http://pastebin.com/pqQhGN6w
[13:54] <thecha> does ubuntu canibalize the other OS?
[13:54] <cfhowlett> thecha properly installed - it does not
[13:54] <thecha> cfhowlett i did install it properly
[13:55] <cfhowlett> thecha works "less well" ... means?
[13:55] <thecha> the last two times i booted up onetime in may and the last time today i had no gnome pannel start up
[13:55] <thecha> i had to manuall start gnome panel from terminal
[13:55] <thecha> works less well means no more internet connection
[13:56] <thecha> also what doesnt work anymore is win7 error analysator
[13:56] <thecha> and overall the system has become incredibly slow
[13:56] <thecha> it takes win7 to load about 10 minutes now
[13:56] <thecha> then another 20 minutes after it is loaded to react
[13:56] <holstein> thecha: i would test the hardware..
[13:57] <cfhowlett> thecha ram?
[13:57] <balphagore> hey, I'm about to install windows7 + ubuntu 14.04 LTS on a dual boot 128gb SSD drive. Can someone give me an advice on how to partition it? I used to bother with separate /home and /boot partitions for ubuntu, but not sure if it is worth it. Will it be okay if I just get one NTFS 70GB partition for windows, one 50GB partition ext4 for ubuntu and third and last SWAP partition for ubuntu, or should I bother with /home and /boot? Al
[13:57] <thecha> omg no this can't be hardware related you guys :(
[13:57] <thecha> i am broke than a mf
[13:57] <holstein> thecha: *all* hard drives fail
[13:58] <thecha> cfwhowlet i have 4GB ram
[13:58] <thecha> :.(
[13:58] <holstein> thecha: that was a suggestion to test/reseat the ram, i read
[13:58] <thecha> i will do this
[13:58] <thecha> i will test the ram
[13:58] <thecha>  or maybe reseat
[13:58] <thecha> thank you kindly fo rhelp
[13:59] <thecha> in ubuntu it just werks
[13:59] <holstein> there are ways to restore the windows operating system.. you could have done something incorrectly in the partition resizing
[13:59] <thecha> everything just werks in gnu linux just werks seamlessly
[13:59] <trijntje> thecha: sounds like a problem with windows, not ubuntu. Maybe ask in ##windows
[13:59] <inerkick> i tried to work with virutalenv, but it seams some issue.. kindly help. I reinstalled it , but what this issue is all about "http://pastebin.com/pqQhGN6w"
[13:59] <thecha> trijntje :(
[13:59] <holstein> thecha: i always suggest having data backed up before doing any partition management like that.. i would try and access my data in windows and back it up ASAP..
[13:59] <inerkick> i tried to work with virutalenv, but it seams some issue.. kindly help. I reinstalled it , but what this issue is all about http://pastebin.com/pqQhGN6w
[14:02] <helperdeper> hello i want to remove a file with the same file name from many directorys in one folder which command should i use?
[14:02] <jpds> helperdeper: rm -fv */file_name
[14:02] <Adzz> Hi Everyone, I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 and am having a strange issues. After initial install, my usb keyboard/mouse was working fine. However, once i restarted my pc, they now no longer work PASSED the bios/grub, as in they work fine in both bios and grub, but once i hit the login screen, they stop working... I've tried messing with the USB controller options in my bios aswell as unplugging/rearranging them... but still no avail... 
[14:02] <helperdeper> thx jpds
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Adzz: have you tried other USB ports?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Adzz: have you tried other keyboards?
[14:03] <Adzz> ActionParsnip: I've tried rearranging yes... I don't have any other keyboards to test, however it was working fine on windows a couple of hours ago...
[14:03] <[[thufir]]> in sugar crm, how do I set a users password?  I don't have e-mail setup.
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> Adzz: does the system have a make and model?
[14:04] <cfhowlett> [[thufir]] sugar crm still isn't supported here.  best to go to the source ...
[14:06] <waver__> guden nite
[14:06] <Adzz> ActionParsnip: It's custom built (by myself), Motherboard is an MSI Z97-G45, Keyboard is a Razer Blackwidow Ultimate edition, Mouse is a Razer Taipan
[14:07]  * waver__ tea
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> Adzz: are there any bugs reported for those models of keyboard?
[14:07] <Adzz> ActionParsnip: Extra information - as it boots, even past GRUB for a moment, the LEDs stay on, however then the screen flickers black and a nVidia logo shows and then the peripherals LEDs turn off... From that point they no longer have any input on the system
[14:08] <Adzz> ActionParsnip: I haven't checked yet, i'll google quickly now
[14:08] <waver__> why can not I use command of irc in irssi?
[14:08] <holstein> waver__: what command?
[14:09] <waver__> such as "/help'
[14:09] <holstein> waver__: try http://www.irssi.org/documentation/manual
[14:09] <Adzz> ActionParsnip: after quick googling, there appears to be no bugs reported for any of the recent releases for any of my peripherals (the last bug reported was an issue of grub freezing while using a razer blackwidow ultimate, and this was in 2012)
[14:09] <waver__> thanks H sang
[14:10] <ExWizzard> what is the current kernel version for 14.04 ? I installed 3.15 but I would like to downgrade now because of bugs
[14:10] <waver__> http://www.irssi.org/documentation/manual ,mark it.
[14:11] <Fyodorovna> ExWizzard, 3.13.29 did you delete the previos kernels when you installed 3.15?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic | ExWizzard
[14:12] <ExWizzard> thanks, yes I did delete it
[14:12] <ExWizzard> should i just apt-get install linux-image-generic and update-grub?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> ExWizzard: update-grub is part of the postinst already
[14:12] <Eggs_> identify
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> ExWizzard: this isn't redhat ;)
[14:15] <Adzz> ActionParsnip: any ideas?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> Adzz: all I can recommend is report a bug
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> Adzz: try legacy mode in BIOS
[14:20] <Adzz> ActionParsnip: Can you direct me to as to where I may report the bug
[14:20] <cfhowlett> !bug|Adzz
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> azerus: in a terminal run:  ubuntu-bug xorg     it will start the process
[14:21] <Adzz> cfhowlett: I can't because i can't type anything on ubuntu... How can i report a bug outside of ubuntu
[14:22] <holstein> Adzz: you can do it directly
[14:23] <makara> ~,
[14:23] <Adzz> holstein: how?
[14:23] <holstein> Adzz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#How_to_report_bugs should help you in your current state.. but, i think you might want to see if you can get *any* keyboard working.. is it the keyboard? the hardware support? the os config? et..
[14:23] <holstein> etc*
[14:23] <freerobby> Is there a published timeline anywhere for when systemd is expected to be fully adopted by ubuntu? I am trying to figure out how and when we should plan for it.
[14:24] <cfhowlett> !systemd
[14:24] <cfhowlett> !info systemd
[14:24] <Pici> !info systemd utopic
[14:25] <cfhowlett> Pici so THAT'S how that works!  You know, I learned something today!
[14:26] <Adzz> Ok, more info for anyone that can help... When i go into recovery mode, while it gives me a verbose output, it says that many of my USB devices are "not accepting address- error 71"... Googling shows that this problem is common with USB keyboard, but i can't find a solution, can someone give me a hand please?
[14:28] <holstein> Adzz: i know what i do.. i try different live cd's.. i try different usb ports.. differnt hardware.. i just try and troubleshoot and see what the issue is definitively.. the devices dont promise any linux support, so, it can be challenging doing the work
[14:34] <molqr> i want to work with the latest version of some software obtained from their git repo. how can i do this safely? that is i don't want to break stuff that depend on older versions of these softwares? by the way these softwares are not that fundamental like glib but are pretty much high level ... specifically i want to install the latest python 3, python3 numpy, scipy, scikitlearn cython etc
[14:35] <holstein> molqr: virtualbox install? chroot? live CD? dualboot? a seperate machine...
[14:35] <molqr> holstein: i see. thanks.
[14:36] <molqr> i was hoping for some system that would help me identify those softwares which depend on these and ask aptitude to not install them or atleast issue a warning or error message
[14:37] <holstein> molqr: the package manager wont, if you are not using a package manager.. the software would just complaing about not meeting requirements
[14:38] <molqr> i see. cool.
[14:38] <tracyone> anyone help ,tell me the result of the execution of "locate bell.oga" in ubuntu 14.04
[14:38] <holstein> the custom 3rd party (not officially supported) software will do whatever it is designed to do.. putting files all over the system or whatever its intended to do
[14:38] <holstein> molqr: ^
[14:39] <molqr> holstein: right. i m a bit worried about installing software outside the knowledge of the package manager.
[14:40] <holstein> !info checkinstall
[14:40] <holstein> ^ that can help.. though, i would just use a VM
[14:40] <holstein> you can easily snapshot, and migrate.. there are more positives to virtualization than just isolation
[14:41] <helplessuser123> I dont know what my caps lock key is bound to
[14:42] <molqr> holstein: ok. thanks.
[14:42] <helplessuser123> i have a feeling its something like alt+f8 or something
[14:42] <doubled112>     /set irc_conf_mode 1
[14:42] <molqr> helplessuser123: xev
[14:43] <helplessuser123> molqr: xev?
[14:44] <molqr> helplessuser123: use that to figure out what capslock is behaving like? open terminal issue the command xev .. then hit CapsLock .. it will generate all info about the keybindings
[14:44] <molqr> install xev first thoug
[14:44] <helplessuser123> molqr:  thanks
[14:44] <helplessuser123> will try
[14:44] <holstein> helplessuser123: is this something you changed? is it a new installation? if you want, you can try the guest account, and see if all is working as expected there.. then, you can consider manually removing the config for the settings in your user /home ...i also agree xev is a great idea
[14:44] <ArielX> Just a quick question: hello pple. Anyone know how to upgrade techno m5 (4.2.2 JB) to kitkat?
[14:45] <Pici> ArielX: Thats really a better question for #android than for #ubuntu
[14:45] <ArielX> yes I know Pici
[14:45] <Pici> ArielX: Okay... then why are you asking in #ubuntu ?
[14:45] <ArielX> hence a quick question... Just incase any one knows
[14:46] <helplessuser123> molqr: what should I be looking for, keycode?
[14:47] <WXZ> I want like a small panel where if I click a button, it'll type some text into the current window. How can I get that done?
[14:48] <molqr> helplessuser123: keysym .. i have made my capslock in to a control so i get keycode 66 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L)
[14:49] <skinux> Can we custom set colors used by LS command?
[14:50] <CamelLight> skinux, yea ?
[14:50] <helplessuser123> molqr: keysym 0xfe78 is what I get when I push the caps lock key down
[14:50] <lj1102> hello, what is the difference between running something using /bin/sh -c "command" and just running it trough default terminal?
[14:51] <skinux> How do we set ls to use custom colors??
[14:51] <Fyodorovna> WXZ, You have any example of this?
[14:52] <WXZ> Fyodorovna: just the old ubuntu panels, you could put custom xautomation launchers
[14:52] <CamelLight> skinux, surely you look at your favorite search engine and read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41538
[14:52] <Fyodorovna> WXZ, The fallback desktop might have that, you mean a launcher correct?
[14:52] <molqr> helplessuser123: google for what that means.
[14:53] <WXZ> Fyodorovna: kind of, I want like a floating panel in unity
[14:53] <helplessuser123> molqr:  i googled it and cant find any info
[14:53] <molqr> i guess it is defined in keysym.h helplessuser123
[14:53] <WXZ> kind of like a toolbar where if I click a button, it'll type stuff for me
[14:53] <molqr> wait i will take a look
[14:53] <Fyodorovna> WXZ, What does "type stuff" mean to you exactly?
[14:54] <WXZ> Fyodorovna: send keystrokes to the active window
[14:54] <helplessuser123> molqr:  what does overlay1_left
[14:54] <helplessuser123> molqr:  what does overlay1_enable*
[14:54] <molqr> helplessuser123: yes i found that one too but have no idea what that means.
[14:55] <helplessuser123> molqr:  is there a tool that graphical shows you what all your keys are mapped to?
[14:55] <Fyodorovna> WXZ, Not sure I can really help without a more exacting description really, maybe not even than. ;)
[14:55] <helplessuser123> molqr:  or could I find which key is using 0xFFE5 which is caps lock
[14:55] <molqr> helplessuser123: don't know will have to google fot it myself.
[14:55] <molqr> helplessuser123: may i ask what is it tha tu want to achieve?
[14:56] <helplessuser123> sometimes ill will be typing and randomly the caps lock will turn on
[14:56] <helplessuser123> and I dont know what key it is mapped to
[14:56] <helplessuser123> so i have to restart linux
[14:56] <WXZ> Fyodorovna: a floating panel with buttons that send keystrokes, can't really give a more accurate description
[14:56] <lj1102> when running an application/command through /bin/sh -c "command" i get an error regarding missing shared libraries, when running it from terminal everything works fine why is that, how to fix this?
[14:57] <helplessuser123> i think its some combo of keys like alt+i or smth
[14:59] <helplessuser123> molqr: http://askubuntu.com/questions/311631/how-do-i-map-a-key-to-middle-click , gonna follow these instructions
[14:59] <molqr> helplessuser123: so when CapsLock indicator led is set .. you start typing all Caps? and this event is triggered by something else NOT the hitting of caps lock key.. is it?
[15:00] <helplessuser123> molqr:  my laptop doesnt have a caps lock led light
[15:00] <Adzz> Hi Again, so I'm pretty sure that my usb keyboard problem is a config issue, so i was hoping to get some help with that... Here's some extra info: When booting into recovery mode and then CTRL-Cing to the login screen, my keyboard is working perfectly... It seems to only occur when booting directly to login screen
[15:00] <molqr> helplessuser123: so you know when you see all caps letters.. right?
[15:01] <helplessuser123> molqr:  yes because when I type its all caps
[15:01] <molqr> may be try to reset the keysym corresponding to capslock to do nothing.. using xmodmap
[15:02] <skinux> Anyone know command to make 'zip' show contents without extracting?
[15:02] <helplessuser123> molqr:  is there a file with all the config of the keys?
[15:02] <helplessuser123> skinux:  open it in a graphical archive manager
[15:02] <molqr> yes that keysym.h file...
[15:02] <Fyodorovna> WXZ, Not sure you will find any more than buttons that will have a set command E.g preset keystrokes, the syntaax of the description is just not exact is all.
[15:04] <WXZ> Fyodorovna: nothing customizable that you know of?
[15:04] <helplessuser123> molqr:  that file only has a a bunch of #defines
[15:04] <Fyodorovna> WXZ, launchers yes but I'm just one user here.
[15:05] <IceD^> hey
[15:05] <helplessuser123> molqr:  i typed in xmodmap and it said for caps lock 0x42 which google says is numer 66
[15:05] <WXZ> ok, well I'm googling in the mean time
[15:05] <SchrodingersScat> depending on how much work you want to put into it, there's several ways to automate x things
[15:05] <Fyodorovna> WXZ, maybe a bash controlled by key sets?
[15:05] <IceD^> got new laptop (asus s301la) and can'
[15:05] <IceD^> t find out how to configure touchpad
[15:05] <molqr> yes helplessuser123 that is the keycode ... 66 for the capslock key
[15:05] <molqr> but keysym can be changed..
[15:05] <IceD^> xinput tells me that it was recognized as "ps/2 logitec wheel mouse"
[15:06] <helplessuser123> molqr:  the keysym.h file is not filled with a bunch of code though
[15:06] <WXZ> Fyodorovna: I just found something called apwal
[15:06] <molqr> helplessuser123: one moment please.
[15:06] <WXZ> Fyodorovna: Apwal is a simple icon-based application launcher. It consists of two components: the application launcher itself, and the configuration editor.
[15:07] <helplessuser123> molqr: its in /usr/include/X11 if that helps any
[15:07] <molqr> #include <X11/keysymdef.h> i have that at the end of the keysym.h file.. so i locate keysymdef.h .. which has the map you want
[15:08] <RaMcHiP> hello all! I am running ubuntu server 12.04 and the only real thing I have installed is webmin.  I have added virtual hosts and fixed the hosts file but now when I go to the webpage it wants to download the html rather than display it
[15:08] <RaMcHiP> has anyone ran into this before?
[15:08] <helplessuser123> molqr:  im finding that right now thanks
[15:08] <john_rambo> Please have a look at this >>> http://www.rejetto.com/hfs/?f=dl ...... Is there an opensource alternative ?
[15:08] <molqr> helplessuser123: xmodmap -pk ... will print the map for you on screen
[15:08] <CooLBALL> hi
[15:08] <CooLBALL> I edited /etc/default/grub
[15:08] <helplessuser123> molqr:  thanks
[15:09] <CooLBALL> how do I make the change effective?
[15:09] <CamelLight> RaMcHiP, sounds wierd, did you let it stay on port 10000, and do you add this to the url ?
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> john_rambo  use tasksel (task select) to install a file server
[15:09] <Munster> sudo update-grub
[15:09] <Fyodorovna> WXZ, Good, that meet your needs?
[15:09] <CooLBALL> ty Munster
[15:09] <WXZ> Fyodorovna: testing it now
[15:10] <john_rambo> MonkeyDust, Trying
[15:11] <causative> I tried to move my linux system from a flash drive to an hdd, using tar.  It mostly worked, however it appears tar failed to transfer extended access lists (ACLs) on certain files
[15:12] <Loshki> john_rambo: hfs *is* opensource, according to their web page
[15:12] <causative> how can I check which files have extended ACLs and fix them, and is there anything else that would have gone wrong when transferring the OS using tar?
[15:13] <Munster> dd might have worked better, causative
[15:13] <helplessuser123> molqr: I'm trying to figure out what I should edit?
[15:13] <molqr> no please don' ttouch that file...
[15:13] <john_rambo> Loshki, Sorry missed that ... but still I will have to run it under wine ... It doesnt feel good
[15:13] <molqr> make local changes....
[15:13] <causative> Munster, perhaps, but someone recommended that I use tar instead (as it's safer) and I went with it
[15:13] <molqr> do you want to turn off the caps lock feature for your login session?
[15:13] <causative> the hdd already had windows on it so I didn't want to overwrite stuff
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> molqr: caps lock should be scrapped
[15:14] <xBaldwin> I'm really new to linux and need to Delete un-needed partitions from my hard drive via a Lubuntu live DVD
[15:14] <Loshki> john_rambo: Well, it's not the only http server out there. Check out LAMP on ubuntu....
[15:14] <lj1102> xBaldwin: gparted
[15:14] <PCdoc> wow! they removed the ability to move the window menu button to the right :/
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> PCdoc: they didnt
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> PCdoc: whoever 'they' is
[15:15] <Loshki> !lamp
[15:15] <xBaldwin> Is that fairly straight forward and simple to understand?
[15:15] <molqr> helplessuser123: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-deactivate-caps-lock/ if that is what you want
[15:15] <PCdoc> they means the ubuntu ppl
[15:15] <PCdoc> for 14.04, the config editor doesnt work, nor the cmd line
[15:16] <PCdoc> I read somewhere that they removed the ability
[15:16] <cfhowlett> xBaldwin fairly intuitive but as you're new to linux, your best course of action is to tread lightly
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> PCdoc: you can move it to the right but it makes no sense
[15:16] <Loshki> xBaldwin: backup anything you daren't lose first...
[15:17] <Munster> xBaldwin, any experience with partitioners ?
[15:17] <helplessuser123> molqr:  i dont want it off permanetly though, I want it remapped
[15:17] <xBaldwin> Ok so is there anything in particular I should look out for when using it?
[15:17] <xBaldwin> No none
[15:17] <cfhowlett> xBaldwin make sure you don't kill the wrong partitions.  *sure*
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> PCdoc: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout ':minimize,maximize,close'       tried that?
[15:17] <Munster> !gparted | xBaldwin
[15:17] <san13> xBaldwin if u dont have istalled lubuntu then simply make the live cd and during installation while selecting drive to install there are options to format partitions
[15:17] <Loshki> xBaldwin: crank up gparted and ask before you press any buttons which you don't understand...
[15:17] <molqr> helplessuser123: use you can turn it off and on again using commands on that page .. xmodmap or setxkbmap are your friends..  you can put those commands in ~/.xsession or ~/.xprofile
[15:18] <PCdoc> I like ubuntu, but for some reason I am forced to use windows for official purposes. Therefore, I am more used to windows, thats why I wanted the buttons on the right
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> PCdoc: look in dconf-editor
[15:18] <PCdoc> ActionParsnip: yeah, tried that
[15:18] <PCdoc> ActionParsnip: tried dconf too
[15:18] <molqr> helplessuser123: you can undo the effects whenever you like. nothing is permanent.
[15:18] <causative> are extended ACLs the _only_ thing tar is going to fail to transfer?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> PCdoc: you may need {unity|ubuntu}-tweak
[15:18] <bobRoss> hi again
[15:18] <helplessuser123> molqr: xmodmap -e "add lock = Caps_Lock" Doesnt turn caps lock on though
[15:18] <Fyodorovna> PCdoc, You can move with dconf-editor
[15:18] <bobRoss> is it ok to do a little bragging here?
[15:18] <PCdoc> I read somewhere that I need to switch to what its called flash or something instead of unity
[15:19] <andlabs> is there a package that provides a C  (not C++) implementaiton of bcrypt? I see packages called bcrypt for python and ruby, but not for C. Thanks.
[15:19] <bobRoss> and a little thanking
[15:19] <holstein> bobRoss: no.. use the #ubuntu-offtopic please.. thanks
[15:19] <Fyodorovna> bobRoss, Is it support?
[15:19] <bobRoss> thanks
[15:19] <bobRoss> no just you guys helped me and I wanted to say thanks
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> PCdoc: 14.04 Trusty 'Unity' you can't, least not yet. If you have Trusty 'Unity' with Gnome Flashback you can.   source: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2210844
[15:20] <Fyodorovna> bobRoss, Best thanks is assisting others really.
[15:20] <RaMcHiP> CamelLight, yes I let it stay on port 10000. Not quite sure what you mean but adding to url
[15:20] <bobRoss> :)
[15:20] <RaMcHiP> I can access webmin with the 10000 port but when I go to a normal page on a domain it just downloads the file
[15:21] <cfhowlett> !webmin|RaMcHiP
[15:21] <ExtremeDevilz> ok guys any idea how do I check if my gfx card is working properly?
[15:21] <PCdoc> I was following the steps with dconf-editor the other day, but I found that some options there were missing
[15:22] <Fyodorovna> PCdoc, What you want is there.
[15:22] <san13> ExtremeDevilz :u wish to keep graphics card on or off
[15:23] <PCdoc> m currently on windows, will switch back tonight and check
[15:23] <PCdoc> thanks for the input
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> PCdoc: tbh, Idont use Unity. Its too slow for my tastes
[15:24] <ExtremeDevilz> I did
[15:24] <ExtremeDevilz> glxinfo | grep direct
[15:24] <ExtremeDevilz> nothing found
[15:25] <xBaldwin> Ok so I have gparted open and the buttons kind of explain themselves but I have no clue which of the 18 partitions are safe to delete.
[15:25] <holstein> ExtremeDevilz: what is the question? you have 14.04 stock ubuntu installed? and you are trying to see if it has 3d enabled? or in use?
[15:25] <ExtremeDevilz> nvm
[15:25] <ExtremeDevilz> it works now
[15:25] <Munster> ExtremeDevilz, install mesa-utils
[15:28] <xBaldwin> Is it possible for partitions to get split into two or more partitions?
[15:29] <san13> yes it is xBaldwin
[15:29] <cfhowlett> xBaldwin to "get split" ... not unless you authorize it
[15:29] <WXZ> fy
[15:29] <WXZ> Fyodorovna: Im testing apwal right now
[15:29] <WXZ> Fyodorovna: it seems to be working
[15:29] <WXZ> seeing as Im not typing any of this
[15:29] <holstein> xBaldwin: you can back up your data, shrink a current partition, and make another in the free space
[15:30] <xBaldwin> Would that then cause a boot partition to be un-able to boot?
[15:30] <ruedii> xBaldwin, It's probably better to use Loopback filesystem to do that.
[15:30] <holstein> xBaldwin: you can break many things in this way.. including the boot partition or loader
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> xBaldwin  if you start messing with partitions: 1) backup, 2) backup, 3) backup
[15:30] <cfhowlett> xBaldwin and backup again.
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: then 4) backup
[15:31] <holstein> xBaldwin: that is why you backup prior to experimentation.. or use a professional service
[15:32] <holstein> xBaldwin: you may find it benificial (as i did) to setup "fake", virualized system in something like virtualbox.. where you can experiment on virtual drives and not your personal data
[15:34] <xBaldwin> I haven't messed with any of them but when I went on vacation my roommate completely screwed up my laptop.  Before I left it only had Windows 8 on it and now it has Ubuntu and 18 partitions also Windows 8 is vissable but I can't boot it anymore and when I try to use the bootloader to boot it all it does is open the Windows bootloader and ask for the Windows 8 cd
[15:35] <cfhowlett> xBaldwin 18?  18!
[15:35] <xBaldwin> Yeah
[15:35] <holstein> xBaldwin: i would backup my data, and restore with system restore partition or CD from manufacturer (if i want windows) or just fresh install ubuntu on the entire disc
[15:35] <san13> so what is it that you exactly want to do now xBaldwin?
[15:35] <cfhowlett> xBaldwin you'll need to repair/reinstall win8 and THEN install ubuntu
[15:36] <holstein> xBaldwin: you *can* fiddle about and delete partitions, and "grow" what you had back.. but, what else has happened in the operating system that you cant trust?
[15:36] <san13> if you have your data safe somewhere then completely reinstall windows ,make partitions with easeUS and the install ubuntu in any of the partition
[15:37] <holstein> xBaldwin: i would expect a total rebuild, after backing up my data to not only take much less time, but, leave me with a system i can trust
[15:37] <xBaldwin> Ok is there anyway to find my Product key in the BIOS or do I need to just contact Microsoft?
[15:37] <holstein> xBaldwin: you dont need them with the manufacturer recovery partition or cd
[15:37] <cfhowlett> xBaldwin isn't there a physical stamp with the key on it?
[15:37] <san13> i agree with holstein
[15:38] <san13> its better to have a clean system with things that you know then a 18 PARTITIONED!!!
[15:38] <holstein> well, if i could guarantee the windows system is "good" after spending hours, it would be different.. but you cant..
[15:39] <san13> xBaldwin see the serial code on the opening seal of cd cover
[15:39] <holstein> and, you didnt install ubuntu, xBaldwin .. so you cant trust that either..
[15:39] <xBaldwin> No Microsoft has started putting the product key in the BIOS and I want a fresh start but dont have a Windows 8 disk because my laptop came with it on here
[15:39] <cfhowlett> xBaldwin uh huh.  well, we are not able to fix win8.   contact msoft
[15:39] <causative> I'm about to install grub using grub-install, however first I want to back up my MBR, to do this I'm thinking I do:  dd if=/dev/sda of=/somewhere/else.iso bs=1M count=10
[15:39] <causative> should that do it?
[15:39] <san13> well in that case microsoft has stopped supplying keys
[15:40] <holstein> xBaldwin: thats why i reference a restore partition, which is how manufacturers do it more, these days.. or, you call the manufacturer and obtain the disc.. or purchase windows.. or fresh install ubuntu
[15:40] <san13> you can isntall grub but be sure to make a grub rescue disk in advance
[15:41] <causative> is 10 MB enough to back up though
[15:42] <causative> eh well it's done
[15:42] <xBaldwin> grub is on here it sees Windows and I can get to all the files just cant boot it but Ill just do what you guys suggested and contact Microsoft so I can start fresh and start a dual boot the right way from there
[15:43] <Ben64> causative: don't restore 10MB though, will nuke the first partition if anything changes in between
[15:43] <n1n0> having this issue with the login loop on 14.04. i think i set .xauthority to user.
[15:43] <causative> Ben64, I see that /dev/sda starts at sector 63 so I'll just restore the first 62*512 bytes
[15:43] <cfhowlett> xBaldwin don't forget to password protect your bios so your "friends" can't "help" by partitioning your hardware
[15:44] <Ben64> causative: still too much. mbr is first 512 bytes
[15:44] <san13> xBaldwin have tried to change the BIOS option of boot to UEFI?
[15:45] <san13> because sometimes this would directly boot to windows
[15:45] <san13> if installation was done to legacy
[15:45] <causative> Ben64, what's the rest of the space between the start of the disk and sda1 for, then?
[15:46] <xBaldwin> Yeah I'm going to have to make sure he pays for the trouble I go through and yes it failed to boot anything and I had to re open BIOS and reactivate legacy support to get back to Ubuntu
[15:46] <n1n0_> is there and third display manager besides lightdm and gdm?
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> n1n0_  xdm, kdm
[15:47] <san13> then he must have really played bad with MBR during installation
[15:48] <xBaldwin> Hes an idiot and probably just started messing with stuff without even knowing what it was
[15:48] <san13> LXDM MDM
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> n1n0  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_display_manager_%28program_type%29#Some_implementations
[15:49] <xBaldwin> Alright I've got to go do some work Ill probably be back with more linux questions
[15:50] <san13> well xBaldwin i would suggest that you reinstall everything if you dont worry for genuine key of windows
[15:50] <luli> Hello, i'm having trouble with this command: gksu gksu gedit /etc/chromium-browser/default      it is just asking me for password and doesn't do anything could someone help please?
[15:51] <cfhowlett> luli gksu 2 times?
[15:51] <SchrodingersScat> luli: probably only need one gksu, it's magic effect does not stack
[15:51] <SchrodingersScat> *its
[15:51] <luli> Thats what the guide said
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> luli: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:51] <luli> gksu to prevent a blank page bug
[15:52] <luli> I will try with one
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> luli: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:52] <n1n0> MonkeyDust using gdm on the 13.10 went good. if the login loop occurs again on 14, which manager should i go for from tty and what command line with?
[15:53] <luli> elementary OS Luna \n \l
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> luli: not supported here
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> luli: elementary support is entirely separate to Ubuntu's
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> luli: ask in #elementaryos
[15:53] <luli> Thank you :)
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> n1n0  not sure
[15:54] <k_sze> Between Lubuntu and Xubuntu, which one is more lightweight?
[15:54] <k_sze> Is it still Lubuntu?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> k_sze: yes
[15:54] <cfhowlett> k_sze lubuntu - by a hair
[15:54] <n1n0> MonkeyDust thx anyway
[15:54] <k_sze> Thanks.
[15:54] <laurenXbuntu> I'm trying to install Xubuntu 14.04 on a laptop with an Ami APTIO UEFI bios. I was able to install xubuntu from a usb stick after disabling secure-boot, however, the system does not show Ubuntu / HDD as a boot option (I also ran boot-repair)
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> k_sze: if you want light, ditch the DE altogether and use just openbox on it's own
[15:54] <laurenXbuntu> Any ideas on what I could do next?
[15:55] <dupingping> hi boys.
[15:55] <dupingping> I hate this game.
[15:55] <san13> laurenXbuntu do you have windows 8?
[15:55] <dupingping> it's very bore.
[15:55] <laurenXbuntu> san13: mhm yes
[15:55] <OerHeks> dupingping, we don't .. what game?
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> dupingping  wrong channel
[15:55] <san13> if yes then did you installed in legacy mode?
[15:56] <cfhowlett> dupingping ??? wrong place
[15:56] <dupingping> http://i.stack.imgur.com/yWp3d.png
[15:56] <san13> laurenXbuntu??
[15:57] <dupingping> This game have not end.
[15:57] <OerHeks> dupingping, what game?
[15:57] <dupingping> look this http://i.stack.imgur.com/yWp3d.png
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> dupingping: this is support only, do you have a support question?
[15:57] <laurenXbuntu> san13: I was not able to find an option that allows me to set the damn uefi to "legacy mode" :-( The only place legacy mode (or CSM) is mentioned is when you disable/enable "Secure Boot"
[15:57] <cfhowlett> dupingping if you don't like the game ... don't play the game.
[15:57] <OerHeks> dupingping, sorry, if you don't say what game, good luck,
[15:57] <k_sze> ugh, I think I've asked this before: there are PC 64-bit and Mac 64-bit images of Lubuntu install CD.
[15:58] <san13> it is the same place where uefi is
[15:58] <laurenXbuntu> san13: However, there's no menu or option that allows me to explicitly enable/disable/switch to/etc. legacy mode
[15:58] <san13> well windows are duffers to use uefi mode...
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> k_sze: that's not a question. Its a statement
[15:58] <k_sze> the Mac 64-bit is tailored for native install (so I can dual boot between Lubuntu and OS X)?
[15:59] <laurenXbuntu> san13: bashing aside, redmond 8 is really the worst of their systems
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> k_sze: what CPU does your Mac have?
[15:59] <k_sze> ActionParsnip: I have the latest rMBP, so Intel Core i7
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> k_sze: then its not a special CPU, the PC 64bit ISO will work
[16:00] <san13> laurenXbuntu can you boot windows?
[16:00] <k_sze> ActionParsnip: When you I want the Mac 64-bit image?
[16:00] <laurenXbuntu> san13: I could if I reinstall windows 8
[16:00] <k_sze> s/you/would/
[16:00] <san13> reinstall???
[16:01] <san13> means have you reinstalled windows after installing linux??
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> k_sze: because some PPC chips are 64bit
[16:01] <laurenXbuntu> san13: the laptop came with windows 8.1 preinstalled.
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> k_sze: you basically have a standard PC but paid twice the price because its a mac
[16:01] <k_sze> ActionParsnip: it says "64 bit version for Intel Mac" on the website (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu)
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> k_sze: try it, the kernel will not work if the CPU architecture is bad
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> k_sze: maybe there is some customization on the ISO
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> k_sze: try it, it's free :)
[16:03] <kingbeowolf> whats a good HTML5 music streaming site/
[16:03] <kingbeowolf> html5.grooveshark.com doesn't work very well
[16:03] <Dragoneye> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS:  WIN-P toggles clone screens on two monitors and one desktop on both. But on every reboot it goes on clone. How can I get it to remember my last WIN-P toggle?
[16:03] <san13> well so your problem is that you have currently both windows and linux but can only boot windows not linux???right
[16:03] <cfhowlett> kingbeowolf not an ubuntu support question ... use your google-fu
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> kingbeowolf: youtube...
[16:05] <laurenXbuntu> san13: Uhm, no. My current problem is that I have wiped windows 8.1 off the HDD and installed Xubuntu 14.04 from a usb stick (successfully). Rebooting the machine goes directly to the UEFI because it doesn't recognize the OS on the HDD (I think?). So I ran "boot-repair" as was suggested on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI. However, that did not solve the problem.
[16:07] <san13> so that means you cant log in to linux too...right?
[16:07] <n1n0> is there software centre in kubuntu or xubuntu?
[16:08] <cfhowlett> n1n0 yes.
[16:08] <steve__shine> yup
[16:08] <laurenXbuntu> san13: yes, because it doesn't boot into the OS
[16:08] <laurenXbuntu> *boot the OS
[16:08] <cfhowlett> san13 you DID redirect your uefi to boot from the HDD and not the USB?
[16:09] <laurenXbuntu> cfhowlett, do you mean me? :-)
[16:09] <cfhowlett> laurenXbuntu errr, yes.  sorry for confusion.
[16:10] <laurenXbuntu> cfhowlett, uhm, I didn't do that explicitly i.e. by changing something through vim or the terminal etc. Where would I have to change that?
[16:10] <san13> if it was usb it would have booted up as live..
[16:10] <san13> do that on starting laptop
[16:10] <san13> using boot options
[16:10] <cfhowlett> laurenXbuntu it would have to be done at the UEFI level.
[16:10] <laurenXbuntu> cfhowlett, oh you mean in the UEFI as an otion?
[16:10] <cfhowlett> laurenXbuntu right
[16:11] <laurenXbuntu> cfhowlett, see, that's the problem: the stupid Aptio UEFI doesn't recognize the OS (no boot option showed when the usb stick is not present)
[16:12] <heh>  hello how to how to send original client ip/host with ssh -N -R .. ? is it possible
[16:12] <cfhowlett> laurenXbuntu does it recognize that you have an HDD?  this IS HDD, right?  or is it SSD?
[16:12] <keevitaja> hi, i installed new skype 4.3 but i'm missing the panel icon. how to fix this?
[16:13] <laurenXbuntu> cfhowlett, it's both sorta.... one of those HDD/SDD hybrids
[16:14] <cfhowlett> laurenXbuntu best I put down my advisor cap and slowly back away.  no experience with that setup
[16:14] <laurenXbuntu> cfhowlett, aw , ok :-( But thanks for your help!
[16:15] <san13> laurenXbuntu try this
[16:15] <san13> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[16:16] <MonkeyDust_> keevitaja  try logout and back in
[16:16] <laurenXbuntu> san13: been there :-) hence the boot-repair story
[16:16] <CamelLight> is it true computer virus can't harm software ?
[16:16] <CamelLight> hardware even
[16:16] <starter> Can anybody help me with NATing in Ubuntu 14.04
[16:16] <keevitaja> MonkeyDust: i tried that, also rebooted the system
[16:16] <san13> and reinstall linux...i have installed ubuntu on my friends lappy many times and windows 8 do gives error
[16:16] <starter> i have a physical nic and a virtual nic
[16:17] <san13> okay then what error does it shoes grub rescue?
[16:17] <starter> and want to nat the traffic pointing to my physical to go to virtual
[16:17] <MonkeyDust_> keevitaja  use 4.2 from the repos, that shows the icon
[16:17] <keevitaja> yeah, that's not the new version i want
[16:17] <laurenXbuntu> CamelLight, no
[16:18] <san13> Camellight search for hackers BBC documentry
[16:19] <san13> u will see the biggest heck they made in nuclear power plants
[16:19] <m1dnight__> san13: come to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:19] <m1dnight__> to discuss it :)
[16:19] <san13> sure
[16:19] <san13> :)
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> starter: set the virtual interface to bridged. It will then get an IP from the same DHCP server your PC gets from
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> starter: it will appear as another PC on the LAN
[16:23] <starter> NAT QUESTION: i have two nics ONE physical (172.16.10.10) and ONE VIRTUAL(10.0.30.100). The default gateway is to physical and can access that ip remotly. Now i want to NAT 172.16.10.10 to 10.0.30.100 so that i can access 10.0.30.100 remotly also
[16:24] <starter> 10.0.30.100 has no nic
[16:25] <wolfy1339> hi, i need to find my ipv6 address of my server, how do i do that
[16:26] <kingbeowolf> ActionParsnip, most the popular songs are on Vevo which requires DRM Flash
[16:26] <Leo_Verto> why does ubuntu still use the kernel version 3.13?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> kingbeowolf: use Chrome
[16:29] <OerHeks> Leo_Verto, next release 14.10 will use 3.15
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> Leo_Verto: because its stable and works well
[16:30] <Leo_Verto> ah okay
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Leo_Verto: which kernel shouldit use?
[16:30] <Leo_Verto> probably also because 14.04 is LTS?
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> exactly
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Leo_Verto: you are thinking now :)
[16:35] <_C3r34l_K1ll3r_> Hey everyone :)
[16:40] <kingbeowolf> ActionParsnip, haha I don't want to use flash
[16:40] <kingbeowolf> ActionParsnip, or google's flash
[16:40] <kingbeowolf> ActionParsnip, trying to go HTML5 yo!
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> kingbeowolf: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=audio+streaming+sites
[16:41] <kingbeowolf> thanks let me look through and try 100 music sites instead of getting first hand accounts from my fellow community members :D
[16:41] <thurstylark> is there a way to set the desktop background and/or theme for all users? We're trying to use Ubuntu 12.04 in an ActiveDirectory environment
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> kingbeowolf: somebody has to, why not be the pioneer..
[16:41] <kingbeowolf> ActionParsnip, some how I don't believe I would be a trail blazer in this category
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> its possible
[16:42] <kingbeowolf> i guess it could be :D odd though
[16:42] <ianorlin> kingbeowolf if in US there is pianobar which allows you to stream without flash but for some stupid reason only works on US sites as a client
[16:42] <registro> spanish ?
[16:42] <registro> no ?
[16:43] <m1dnight__> registro: yes, yes there is a spanish channel
[16:43] <m1dnight__> I don't really know though
[16:43] <m1dnight__> hold on a second, somebody will tell you soon enough :)
[16:43] <zykotick9> !es
[16:43] <ted20> Why it doesn't work? http://pastebin.com/nTd8WfJr
[16:43] <registro> gx
[16:43] <registro> thanks
[16:45] <kingbeowolf> ianorlin, thats pretty neat
[16:46] <ianorlin> although pithos is nice if you want a GUI
[16:47] <buub_> list
[16:54] <thurstylark> Is there a way to manage the default user profile when authenticating against ActiveDirectory?
[16:55] <MonkeyDust_> thurstylark  better ask in #ubuntu-server, i guess
[16:56] <foo_> Has the default location for mounting external drives changed between precise and trusty?
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> foo_: shouldnt do. If you want it to mount to a specific place you can add an entry for the file system in /etc/fstab
[17:01] <foo_> ActionParsnip: instead of /media/label they now mount at /media/my-username/label
[17:01] <phelix> Would anyone have any idea why shockwave / flash games in chrome are really super lagged?
[17:01] <foo_> I was actually wondering if there was a rationale behind this change
[17:02] <frew> I fixed some sound issues by upgraded to the latest ALSA driver, is that worth reporting even or, since it's the latest ALSA driver, is it just inevitable that it will end up getting released?
[17:03] <foo_> frew I wouldn't report it, but I'd add this info to a bunch of wikis
[17:04] <foo_> arch and gentoo wikis as well
[17:04] <frew> k, I'll look around; thanks
[17:04] <foo_> np
[17:06] <Fyodorovna> phelix, I would check if your hardware and the flash are up for the task, htop will tell you local resources used
[17:16] <CarlFK> I need an alarm clock to go beep beep in 45 minutes - any suggestions?  (I am sure there are plenty of choices, I don't really want to look at them all)
[17:17] <MonkeyDust_> !info alarm-clock | CarlFK is this useful
[17:17] <CarlFK> 100% of people who answered agree.  works for me!
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> evening
[17:19] <CarlFK> MonkeyDust_: installed it.  any idea how I run it?
[17:20] <CarlFK> carl@twist:~$ alarmclock ... hmm, that works.  good enough.
[17:20] <MonkeyDust_> CarlFK  explore the clock a bit, best way yo learn...
[17:20] <MonkeyDust_> to*
[17:23] <CarlFK> MonkeyDust_: what clock?  (also, alarmclock ... looks like I have to set a time, I need duration else I have to do math
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: could use the at scheduler....
[17:25] <CarlFK> ActionParsnip: then I have to figure out what beep beep command to use :p  (my life is so hard.)
[17:25] <MonkeyDust_> CarlFK  more like a stopwatch?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: at now + 30 minutes
[17:25] <MonkeyDust_> CarlFK  more like a stopwatch/timer?
[17:25] <SchrodingersScat> thought alarm-clock could also do duration..
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> calvinmetcalf: vlc-nox /path/to/some/file.mp3
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: ^
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: then press CTRL + D to end
[17:26] <robairt> any one know a good join me alternative?
[17:26] <MonkeyDust_> robairt  what's join me?
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: http://tecadmin.net/one-time-task-scheduling-using-at-commad-in-linux/
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: its THAT easy
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> robairt: you cant name some random application and expect us to know it...think about it
[17:27] <CarlFK> MonkeyDust_: stopwatch sounds like I come back and click 'stop' and see how long something too.  I need to be alerted in 40 min
[17:27] <robairt> MonkeyDust_:join.me is a browser based remote desktop application
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> robairt: to connetc to Windows PCs?
[17:27] <MonkeyDust_> CarlFK  the app stopwatch also is timer, it says here
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> robairt: http://www.2x.com/rdp-client/chrome/
[17:28] <MonkeyDust_> !info stopwatch
[17:28] <robairt> Makes sense an ubuntu room wouldn't know an app that doesn't work for linux. My bad guys
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: do you have music files on your system?
[17:28] <CarlFK> ActionParsnip: that will work, but I know there is better.. like maybe stopwatch...
[17:29] <robairt> Actionparsnip: thanks for link
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: using at will allow you to transfer skils to other systems, you can also add schedules via SSH
[17:29] <Fyodorovna> CarlFK, I have a loud kitchen time I use for tasking, that to easy.
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> robairt: so what was this "Makes sense an ubuntu room wouldn't know an app that doesn't work for linux. My bad guys" about huh?
[17:29] <MonkeyDust_> robairt  we cannot know any random app on the net, there are zillions
[17:29] <robairt> As in, I shouldn't have assumed
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> robairt: when I gave a solution
[17:29] <Sik> Just reinstalled Ubuntu and things are working again :v Just came back to say that this time #ubuntu was more useful than before. Thanks!
[17:29] <robairt> put yo pitch forks away, I was calling out my own mistake
[17:30] <CarlFK> Fyodorovna: if I had such a thing handy, I would use it
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> robairt: doesnt make _any_ sense at all, so yes, your bad
[17:30] <SchrodingersScat> robairt: ActionParsnip gave you an example though.
[17:30]  * ActionParsnip shrugs
[17:30] <robairt> yeah, I legit meant my logic was bad
[17:32] <Fyodorovna> robairt, average hit for a baseball player must be around 1/3, you are not doing bad. ;)
[17:35] <phelix> Where would I be able to edit the path of what an application icon launches?
[17:35] <phelix> like I have chrome I want to add an option to the icon launcher so that it runs chrome --something
[17:35] <holstein> phelix: in the launcher
[17:35] <robairt> Fyodorovna: haha statistics to the rescue
[17:35] <phelix> I have the newest release of ubuntu and I can't find it
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> phelix: you can change icons of launchers by editting the file in /usr/share/applications
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> phelix: is that what you mean?
[17:36] <phelix> Well I don't want to change the icon I want to append something to the command that launches the application
[17:36] <phelix> ahh ok think i found it
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> phelix: you can edit the Exec= bit
[17:37] <phelix> in /usr/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop
[17:37] <phelix> and then the exec line in this file?
[17:37] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/78730/how-do-i-add-a-custom-launcher
[17:37] <phelix> ya
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> phelix: or make an alias for the command and it will modify the executed command
[17:40] <fAz4> In Ubuntu 14.04 i set my location to Tehran and now most of stuff are in Persian. Like Calendar and ls -l time stamp. how can i change it ?
[17:40] <tesaf14> learn persian would probably be the best solution :)
[17:41] <fAz4> tesaf14: I'm Persian :)
[17:41] <tesaf14> Search for language, you should get a region and language menu
[17:41] <tesaf14> should be able to change it from there
[17:42] <fAz4> tesaf14: found it in language settings thanks
[17:45] <_C3r34l_K1ll3r_> how do u create a bootable usb for BT on ubuntu terminal?
[17:45] <holstein> _C3r34l_K1ll3r_: for BT?
[17:45] <_C3r34l_K1ll3r_> unetbootin doesnt work 4 me :/
[17:45] <_C3r34l_K1ll3r_> backtrack
[17:45] <holstein> if whatever "BT" is referring to support dd copy, you can do that..
[17:46] <holstein> otherwise, you'll have to ask BT support
[17:46] <OerHeks> _C3r34l_K1ll3r_, backtrack is discontinued, the freaks use kali now
[17:47] <heh>  hello how to how to send original client ip/host with ssh -N -R .. ? is it possible
[17:47] <_C3r34l_K1ll3r_> dd if=path/to/.iso/ of=/dev/sdc bs=4M doesnt work
[17:48] <_C3r34l_K1ll3r_> and btw i knw its Kali, i like backtrack better :)
[17:48] <k1l_> _C3r34l_K1ll3r_: ask the backtrack guys if they have hybrid isos.
[17:48] <holstein> _C3r34l_K1ll3r_: it may not be capable of being dd copied, depending on what you mean by "doesnt work"
[17:48] <k1l_> !backtrack | _C3r34l_K1ll3r_
[17:48] <holstein> _C3r34l_K1ll3r_: its irrelevant what you "like".. backtrack is over, and kali is the more recent supported fork
[17:48] <k1l_> _C3r34l_K1ll3r_: or use the ubuntu start disk creator.
[17:51] <daschel> in the ubuntu software center -> software and updated -> other software, I can't toggle any of the check boxes.  is this a known issue?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> daschel: what about if you full screen the application?
[17:52] <k1l_> daschel: it should have asked for your sudo pw
[17:53] <daschel> k1l_, nope.  nothing happens
[17:53] <daschel> ActionParsnip, nope
[17:53] <k1l_> daschel: is it the guest account?
[17:53] <daschel> k1l_, no
[17:54] <k1l_> daschel: is your user in the sudo and adm group?
[17:54] <daschel> yea
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> daschel: is the OS fully up to date?
[17:54] <daschel> ActionParsnip, it should be.  i'll check again though
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> daschel  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:56] <daschel> ActionParsnip, yup, still up-to-date
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> daschel  try re-installing the software center itself
[17:56] <daschel> MonkeyDust, this is a fresh install
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> ok
[17:57] <daschel> well, fresh as of yesterday
[17:58] <Fyodorovna> daschel, Go to edit-software sources and make sure the repos you want open are like thr partners and independent if not tick do so than run an update.
[17:58] <Fyodorovna> the*
[18:06] <daschel> Fyodorovna, that's what i can't do.  that's the problem Im trying to solve
[18:07] <n1n0> someone should report here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/871667 that the login loop still exists in the 14.04 disto
[18:07] <Korkel> How can I make a bootable USB if the UBUNTU boot startup program closes when I want to make a bootable usb?
[18:07] <Fyodorovna> daschel, Can you just open software sources, it is it's own app outside the ubuntu software center
[18:08] <Fyodorovna> Korkel, Not sure I recognize what " boot startup program" this is.
[18:08] <Korkel> Startup disk /
[18:09] <Korkel> No idea what it is called in English.
[18:09] <Fyodorovna> Korkel, Ah, lots of usb loaders look at pendrive linux
[18:10] <Willdude123> How can I set up ubuntu to use a socks proxy globally? I tried doing it under network setting, and changing the socks setting. That doesn't seem to work.
[18:10] <_C3r34l_K1ll3r_> unetbootin didnt work for me :/
[18:10] <Willdude123> I can configure a socks proxy on its own in firefox and it works OK
[18:10] <Fyodorovna> Korkel, Startup disk  just works with ubuntu iso's
[18:11] <Korkel> Fyodorovna, yes, but when I want to create a bootalbe usb the program closes.
[18:11] <daschel> Fyodorovna, i just gave up and edited the sources.list
[18:11] <Fyodorovna> Korkel, Sure, but there are handfuls of other usb iso loaders, does it have to be this app?
[18:12] <Korkel> No, any is welcome, but no idea which one?
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> Korkel  unetbootin, MultiSystem
[18:13] <Fyodorovna> Korkel, This is my favourite, it is a multi loader, but this site has others. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[18:13] <Fyodorovna> same MonkeyDust refrences
[18:14] <Korkel> MonkeyDust, if I click 2 times on that .sh file, the "map" close?
[18:15] <priuon> hello. Doing a dist-upgrade removed the pulseaudio item from the panel. The Pulseaudio gui and sound out are still present. How can i get the item back?
[18:16] <holstein> priuon: i would test if my audio is still working.. is it?
[18:16] <holstein> priuon: inputs and all?
[18:16] <priuon> sound out seems fine. didn't check inputs yet
[18:16] <holstein> !Info indicator-sound
[18:19] <priuon> holstein $info indicator-sound. puts me to the top of the info tree
[18:21] <holstein> priuon: is "indicator-sound" installed?  and running?
[18:21] <priuon> holstein,  Installed: 0.8.5.0-0ubuntu2.1
[18:21] <Korkel> niko
[18:23] <Korkel> niko
[18:23] <holstein> priuon: ok.. installed and runnign?
[18:23] <Korkel> niko
[18:23] <Korkel> fucking loser that you are
[18:23] <holstein> priuon: try running as guest user.. if all is well, then the issue is likely in the user config
[18:24] <holstein> priuon: try reinstalling "indicator-sound" and logout and back in..
[18:25] <darkangel> How does 1 setup an Apache2 web server been attempting to do this and i seem to be messing up something be cause its not workin at all for makin it Public
[18:25] <priuon> holstein. I'll try.
[18:25] <priuon> bbl
[18:25] <holstein> !lamp
[18:25] <priuon> (..)
[18:25] <holstein> darkangel: test it locally.. the issue can be the firewall settings on your router..
[18:29] <darkangel> Which IP does 1 use when they Portforward on Ubuntu there's many on my Comp: lo, Ethernet, virbr0 in my ifconfig command
[18:29] <T0by_> Just installed Ubuntu alongside with Windows. I changed my bootorder to where Ubuntu is placed, but all I get is a simple underscore-cursor that blinks. Did I mess something up?
[18:29] <holstein> darkangel: so, the server is working locally?
[18:29] <darkangel> yup
[18:30] <holstein> darkangel: you'll point it to the ip of the machine...
[18:30] <darkangel> ima usin the Apache2 in my desktop could that work?
[18:31] <darkangel> LAMP been installed into it would i need to do like a Virtual box or so?
[18:32] <holstein> darkangel: you do not need a virtualbox.. apache will work from a desktop machine.. a server can be a desktop machine
[18:32] <holstein> darkangel: is apache working locally?
[18:32] <priuon> holstein, got it back. Thanks there.
[18:32] <holstein> priuon: cheers
[18:33] <priuon> on another topic: how do i find out which file in /dev/ my optical drive is?
[18:33] <Chaos_Zero> Hello, I am getting that annoying GPG update error. Trying to update it manually works find, but I would like to automate the process with sh acript. How can I get my current gpg key without relying on the message that comes at the end of apt-get update?
[18:33] <brontosaurusrex> darkangel, /sbin/ifconfig eth0 | grep "inet addr" | awk -F: '{print $2}' | awk '{print $1}'
[18:34] <darkangel> yup the apache is up and workin on locally at the moment when i put in the website name i set it as it works atm
[18:35] <darkangel> not to sure but the site test name is ubuntucenter.net
[18:35] <Bashing-om> T0by_: What results when you attempt to boot from grub's recovery kernel ?
[18:36] <priuon> will linux not display audio discs in /dev/ ?
[18:36] <holstein> darkangel: you will use your ip to access your home network.. http://www.whatsmyip.org/ to determine. then, when a user uses that, they get to your router where you will forward a port to the machine running the server
[18:36] <T0by_> Bashing-om: atm I'm trying to launch ubuntu via the live cd to see if there are some repair-options for grub that I can use.
[18:37] <T0by_> Bashing-om: How would I boot from the recovery kernel?
[18:37] <holstein> T0by_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[18:37] <holstein> T0by_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repairis likely what you want
[18:38] <darkangel> so i would port forward the IP in that site Your IP Address is (ip address) to work it
[18:38] <Willdude123> This socks proxy appears to work when I configure all traffic to be routed through it in firefox, but for some reason when I set it as a global setting it doesn't work.
[18:38] <Willdude123> http://i.imgur.com/ADqCf0j.png
[18:39] <Bashing-om> tomcheng76: : ) , If all else, can always (RE-)install grub from the liveDVD. Do you know the HD's partitioning scheme ? MBR or GPT (EFI) ?
[18:39] <holstein> the link gives you your real world IP. to get to your network there at your house.. when i get there, the port forwarding on your router will get me to your server. assuming you are allowed to run that there from your isp
[18:39] <T0by_> I tried spamming shift while rebooting, but I didn't seem to enter some recovery mode. Just the same cursor.
[18:39] <holstein> darkangel: the isp can block ^
[18:39] <Bashing-om> T0by_: At the grub boot menu -> advanced options .. and select a kernel marked "recovery" .
[18:40] <entreri> hey guys, any idea when the devs will allow us to move the Unity bar to the bottom ?
[18:40] <entreri> was there any news about that
[18:40] <holstein> entreri: the code is open if you want/need to mess around yourself.. otherwise, you can file wishlist bugs AFAIK
[18:40] <darkangel> holstein: what ya mean
[18:40] <k1l_> entreri: i dont think so.
[18:41] <holstein> darkangel: your isp can block you from running a server at home like that
[18:41] <darkangel> oh ok
[18:41] <holstein> entreri: there are many ways, in linux/ubuntu to have a panel or dock or bar at the bottom of the screen..
[18:41] <T0by_> Bashing-om: But I don't even see a grub boot menu. I skip directly to the blinking cursor it seems.
[18:41] <entreri> holstein, it's not a bug and I'm no programmer, just asking if there was updates about this feature coming soon
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> entreri  other DE's have the taskbar on the bottom
[18:42] <holstein> entreri: i suggest doing what you like or want with software that already has that feature
[18:42] <k1l_> entreri: that is not to be done. you can look out for a whishlist bug on launchpad.net
[18:42] <holstein> entreri: it can be frustrating/challenging trying to make things do what they are not intended to do
[18:43] <rww> entreri: Never. Seriously.
[18:43] <rww> design team doesn't want to do it, so it isn't happening
[18:43] <Bashing-om> T0by_: Welp, boot code not found then .. and all you think you did was cahne the order of the boot seclection ? .. what partitioning scheme are we talking here, as will be relevant if we resort to (RE-)install.
[18:43] <entreri> ok thanks guys, it's not that a big deal, it's probably by fear of Microsoft suing them or something...
[18:44] <darkangel> holstein: so the 1 in eth0 inet addr:*** is the 1 i sould use?
[18:44] <k1l_> entreri: no, not at all.
[18:44] <holstein> entreri: no, its not.. since *many* other DE's can provide that functionality.. and unity could as well.. but its not the intention
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> entreri  true, MS also has a patent on the enter key
[18:44] <T0by_> Bashing-om: 1 sec, I'll give you a paste in 2 sec
[18:45] <entreri> I mean if it was at the bottom, it would look a bit more like Windows 7
[18:45] <holstein> darkangel: you will set your router to forward a port to the local ip.. then, when i access your real world ip, i would be routed to the server on that machine.. you can open up many security risks, and shouldnt do this trivially..
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> entreri  you have your answer, discussions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:45] <T0by_> Bashing-om: paste.ubuntu.com/7676101/
[18:45] <holstein> entreri: doesnt matter.. many ways to put a bar at the bottom in many operating systems, including ubuntu
[18:46] <entreri> MonkeyDust, ok thanks
[18:46] <T0by_> Bashing-om: I have nothing against reinstalling if thats what it takes. Id rather not reinstall Windows though since it takes so much longer than reinstalling Ubuntu.
[18:46] <komp> hi
[18:46] <komp> akugulu
[18:46] <komp> lemao
[18:47] <komp> hi all
[18:47] <Bashing-om> T0by_: Looking at /7676101/, what version of Wondows - is relevant ! .
[18:47] <T0by_> Bashing-om: Windows 7
[18:47] <darkangel> whats a Good ubuntu web server port to use? is port 80 any good?
[18:48] <holstein> darkangel: you can really invite some security issues by setting this up incorrectly.. i suggest not doing it
[18:49] <holstein> darkangel: the process is still a lot like this.. http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-forward-ports-to-your-ubuntu-12.04-lts-lamp-server
[18:49] <shaun__> does anybody have experience installing ubuntu on a mac pro (latest cylinder)? i am unable to create a bootable usb of ubuntu 14 that works.
[18:49] <heh>  hello how to how to send original client ip/host with ssh -N -R .. ? is it possible
[18:49] <brontosaurusrex> darkangel, port 80 for WAN is default web server port
[18:49] <holstein> shaun__: i used plop to boot the usb.. but, i would try booting a CD if you can.. or whatever apple states the machine can boot
[18:50] <darkangel> ok
[18:50] <shaun__> unfortunately I can't use a CD, since the computer doesn't have a CD drie
[18:50] <brontosaurusrex> if its not 80, then your url will look like http://url:someotherportnumberhere
[18:50] <holstein> shaun__: sure.. but what does apple say the machine can boot? can it boot usb?
[18:50] <shaun__> yeah
[18:51] <holstein> shaun__: test the stick on other hardware if you can.. to determine which is the issue..
[18:51] <shaun__> i am able to create a usb that boots from an EFI
[18:51] <holstein> shaun__: ok. thats how you will likely have to boot it, then
[18:51] <shaun__> however, when it tries to 'try ubuntu before installing' I get a strange pointer error
[18:52] <shaun__> i am wondering if the latest ubuntu doesn't work with this hardware
[18:52] <holstein> shaun__: so, the stick *is* working? then?
[18:52] <shaun__> it is a 12 core mac pro
[18:52] <shaun__> any ideas?
[18:52] <holstein> nothing about ubuntu is preventing the apple machine from working..
[18:52] <shaun__> ok
[18:52] <holstein> shaun__: i need more details.. you are saying its not working, but its working with a cursor error?
[18:53] <shaun__> well, it is able to load the EFI bootloader
[18:53] <T0by_> When I try to run boot-repair I get a message that says that GPT detected. Is that something that can be fixed, I guess its part of the issue?
[18:53] <holstein> shaun__: whats happening? and how? and have you tried installing?
[18:53] <holstein> shaun__: you say you are getting a strange cursor error? from what?
[18:53] <Bashing-om> T0by_: We dealing with encrtpted file system ?, I do suggest that you follow holstein's advise - but be careful, do not take the 1st option, as that will write grub's boot code to all the hard drives ... not at all what you want to do ! I think boot-repair can cope with LVM .
[18:53] <shaun__> from the boot loader, i select 'try ubuntu without installing'
[18:54] <shaun__> then it gives me a pointer error
[18:54] <shaun__> This error: http://www.makeuseof.com/answers/wont-bootable-usb-drive-linux-mac-run/
[18:55] <holstein> shaun__: thats the the same, though..
[18:55] <shaun__> i don't follow?
[18:55] <Bashing-om> T0by_: GPT is a type of partitioning, and no, should not an issue .. boot repair will cope with it ..
[18:55] <holstein> shaun__: not running is just that.. you are getting the thing to boot, you are just having a "pointer error".. whats the error?
[18:55] <shaun__> unaligned pointer 0x2
[18:56] <shaun__> and then the process is aborted
[18:56] <shaun__> nothing more is reported
[18:56] <holstein> shaun__: im reading it as a grub issue
[18:56] <holstein> shaun__: other live CD's work?
[18:57] <holstein> shaun__:  i might just install, and try updating and see if it works
[18:57] <shaun__> I haven't been able to check since I can't use CDs
[18:57] <holstein> shaun__: otherwise, i would test with some other live CD"s
[18:57] <shaun__> Do you mean other distributions? versions?
[18:57] <holstein> shaun__: live cd's = iso's, friend... other versions of the same thing you are doing
[18:57] <T0by_> Bashing-om: This is the error I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7676203/
[18:57] <T0by_> Bashing-om: When I try to run boot-repair
[18:57] <shaun__> If i attempt installation, it goes to a black screen, and nothing happens
[18:58] <holstein> shaun__: right.. i would use what i suspect would work to install..
[18:58] <holstein> !mini | shaun__
[18:59] <Bashing-om> T0by_: You are right, that ain't good.. lemme go back and look at the boot-repair report.
[18:59] <holstein> shaun__: bur, utilmately, i would keep in mind im not invited to use other operating systems on the apple hardware, and would probably just test live CD's and go with whatever workgs "best"
[18:59] <thatsmekaustubh_> hello seeking for help with ubuntu 13
[18:59] <thatsmekaustubh_> stuckk at initramfs
[18:59] <holstein> thatsmekaustubh_: just ask.. assuming 13.10? you only have a little time for support left
[18:59] <holstein> !13.10
[18:59] <thatsmekaustubh_> yes
[18:59] <thatsmekaustubh_> 13.10
[19:00] <thatsmekaustubh_> just need to boot and take backups
[19:00] <holstein> thatsmekaustubh_: you can boot and "take backups" with a live CD.. i say, get the 14.04 live CD and boot and copy what you like..
 can you please help me
[19:01] <holstein> thatsmekaustubh_: sure.. whats the question?
[19:01] <shaun__> exit
[19:02] <thatsmekaustubh_> it happened so I might have forgot to shutdown my laptop and day after when I tried to start it there was this initramfs screen
[19:03] <holstein> thatsmekaustubh_: if you want to only boot and backup your data, you dont need to fix that.. you can use a live cd..
[19:03] <holstein> thatsmekaustubh_: if you want to try and repair grub on the 13.10 install, i suggest https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:03] <thatsmekaustubh_> I tried few fixes but not were success
[19:03] <holstein> thatsmekaustubh_: no success with what, friend?
[19:03] <thatsmekaustubh_> yes i have live usb
[19:03] <thatsmekaustubh_> I tried reconfiguring grub
[19:03] <holstein> thatsmekaustubh_: i would expect to see that error if the hard drive were failing as well.. then, you would maybe not be able to access it, or boot it
[19:04] <thatsmekaustubh_> okay
[19:04] <Bashing-om> T0by_: UNGood ! .. I also as does boot-repair see no efi boot partition. This has now gotten beyond my skill level. Others who have been here will have to advise.
[19:04] <thatsmekaustubh_> just a min i shall read the page you have given
[19:05] <holstein> thatsmekaustubh_: if the live CD is not mounting the hardware, then, you can share errors, or test the hard drive
[19:05] <thatsmekaustubh_> live usb worksssss fine
[19:05] <holstein> thatsmekaustubh_: you said it didnt, friend
[19:05] <holstein> thatsmekaustubh_: you said you cannot get your data using the live CD
[19:06] <T0by_> Bashing-om: I'll simply try a reinstall and see if that will help me
[19:06] <thatsmekaustubh_> sorry I think I didnt ellaborate
[19:06] <holstein> thatsmekaustubh_: if you just want to get your data, just get it with a live CD>. you dont need to fix the installation.. just back it up and fresh install 14.04
[19:06] <thatsmekaustubh_> just a min using tab to reply
[19:06] <thatsmekaustubh_> making me slow at typing
[19:09] <thatsmekaustubh_> I will try booting from live usb and keep you posted about whats going one, I am not so familiar with ubuntu so pleaase pardon if i mislead , its due to  lack of knowledge
[19:11] <daschel> atm, the only speakers are built into my monitor, but im not getting any sound. the sound card is recognized, sound modules are installed, the volume is up, but im not getting anything
[19:11] <daschel> anyone know where I shoudl turn next?
[19:11] <rsw> checked cables from soundcard to monitor?
[19:12] <daschel> rsw, it works in windows
[19:12] <rsw> the monitor plug from the video card typically wont carry sound
[19:12] <rsw> oh ok
[19:12] <T0by_> Bashing-om: Even the installer didn't find an installed ubuntu copy. Let's hope everything gets sorted after a reinstall.
can I have your email to discuss properly or should keep chatting herer?
[19:12] <daschel> it's a displayport so it caries sound
[19:12] <daftykins> ah DP audio... yeah that complicates matters.
[19:12] <daftykins> what graphics hardware, daschel ?
[19:12] <daschel> daftykins, radeon r9 280
[19:13] <holstein> thatsmekaustubh_: this is actually not chat.. its just the main support channel.. you can ask anything you like here.. though, if you feel you need/want to contact me, you can PM me to discuss
[19:13] <daftykins> daschel: is this a clean install? have you installed drivers afterward?
[19:13] <daschel> daftykins, yea, i installed yesterday, but didn't notice the sound until just now
[19:13] <daschel> daftykins, i havent installed any drivers, no
[19:14] <daftykins> daschel: ok sec lets see if there's any info regarding radeons and DP audio
[19:14] <daftykins> daschel: have you seen if you're getting any options to pick between multiple devices in any sound settings options?
okay so I have now screen showing try ubuntu and install ubuntu, which way do i go
[19:15] <priuon> i have only this one audio-disc atm. How do i know if inability for manual access is due to it beeing a audiodisc or something else?
[19:15] <daschel> daftykins, yea, i am and i've tried them all
[19:15] <daftykins> daschel: what were they named?
[19:15] <tiglionabbit> I’m trying to follow the kerberos ldap instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/kerberos-ldap.html#kerberos-ldap-openldap but when I run slapcat at step 3.3 it just writes an empty file
[19:16] <entreri> hey guys, on Archlinux and CentOS and others, Systemd is used, so I can do 'systemctl enable sshd.service'
[19:16] <entreri> what is the equivalent on ubuntu ?
[19:16] <T0by_> Nope, same issue. Just a blank cursor after installing. No grub menu or anything.
[19:16] <holstein> thatsmekaustubh_: you would want to select "try" if you want to run it live and recover your data from the hard drive
[19:17] <tiglionabbit> oh I figured it out.  It’s the number
[19:17] <daschel> daftykins, Analog Output (built-in audio), Digital Output (s/pdif), HDMI / Display port 1-4 Tahiti XT blahblah
[19:17] <tiglionabbit> it has to be the same as the line number in schema_convert.conf.  weird
[19:17] <holstein> thatsmekaustubh_: "install" will give you the opportunity to wipe the drive, which, you likely dont want to do yet.. since you are trying to recover data
[19:17] <Bashing-om> T0by_: A (Re-)install of thje OS os one solution.. In this (RE-)install ... do you realy require the compexity of encryption ? adds a level that at times of difficulty can not be overcome.
[19:17] <daftykins> daschel: ah ok, pretty obvious what's what there then
[19:18] <daschel> daftykins, yea
[19:18] <T0by_> Bashing-om: I checked the LVM-checkbox, that's it
[19:19] <pavlos> entreri, service ssh start
[19:19] <T0by_> Bashing-om: The reason I want Linux is that I want to use LVM + dm-crypt + LUKS. Encryption is important for me.
[19:19] <Bashing-om> T0by_: If I may say so, DON'T do the LVM .. unless you have a demonstrated need to do so .
[19:20] <daftykins> daschel: it appears that a kernel boot line might need to be added to make it work using the default graphics driver... but if you're intending to game on this system under Ubuntu 14.04 then you may want to install proper drivers anyway
[19:20] <T0by_> But can I install LVM afterwards? If so I'll try it.
[19:21] <Bashing-om> T0by_: As you have a need, Go ahead, but I repeat, it adds a level of complexity that can not be overcome. Keep great backups !
[19:21] <entreri> pavlos, thank you
[19:21] <pavlos> entreri, np
[19:23] <daschel> daftykins, I dont plan on gaming too much in linux, but every time i've installed prop drivers, they break my DE. i had that problem on my last 2 laptops, and on this desktop last week when I tried out linux mint.  am I doing something wrong or is this typical behavior?
[19:24] <daschel> daftykins, hold on to that thought though.  I need to get to the beer store before the beer store closes!
[19:24] <vilambit> daschel: what do you mean by "break"?
[19:24] <rsw> i got a emachine from 2005 running windows xp, no usb boot option in the bios and no working disk drive.  i've succeeded in getting ubuntu 12 running using the wubi installer, although it can't be updated without breaking the USB wifi adapter
[19:24] <daftykins> daschel: hehe, yeah AMD drivers are fun and games.
[19:24] <T0by_> Bashing-om: I'll try without LVM to see if that might be the issue
[19:25] <rsw> its a belkin, n300 micro wireless
[19:26] <DadFoundMy> I am trying to configure xinput like this comment but I'm having some trouble, can anyone help me out http://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/28bwvy/is_it_even_possible_to_use_the_trackpoint_on_the/cib667e
[19:28] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> hoello
[19:28] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> hola
[19:29] <Bashing-om> T0by_: Installing LVM () encryption) at install time will be much much easier .. If I might suggest, use GParted and only delete the ubuntu partions -> unallocated space, and install as anew.
[19:29] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> hello
[19:29] <T0by_> Bashing-om: Well, I tried to reinstall on the disk. Without LVM. Still issues when booting though.
[19:29] <T0by_> I removed all partitions on that disk.
[19:30] <priuon> why won't /dev/sr0 show an audio-cd i insert? is this linux behavior for audio-cds or is this something special?
[19:30] <daftykins> priuon: what do you want it to do? have you run a music player to see what it'll do?
[19:31] <priuon> daftykins: i wanted to look at the hex and create an iso from it with dd afterwards
[19:31] <daftykins> you can't dd an audio CD.
[19:31] <priuon> daftykins, the disc can be played with a musicplayer
[19:31] <daschel> vilambit, various things.  it's hard to remember them all. complete crashing, unusable flickering, inconsistent settings being loaded, app launchers not working, i could go on
[19:31] <daschel> anyway, i'll be right back
[19:31] <priuon> daftykins, why not?
[19:31] <genii> priuon: Audio CDs don't really have a filesystem as such
[19:31] <daftykins> ^
[19:32] <priuon> genii, but they are digital are they not?
[19:32] <daftykins> it's complicated.
[19:32] <Bashing-om> T0by_: Do not know - unacceptable response that it is - let's look at what is now: Terminal commands -> sudo apt-get install gdisk , sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda <- .
[19:32] <genii> priuon: So are Dolby cassette tapes but they don't contain a filesystem either
[19:32] <priuon> genii, i don't see this beeing a reason to cut sr0
[19:33] <priuon> *a good reason for
[19:33] <daftykins> priuon: what do you mean 'cut' ?
[19:33] <priuon> daftykins, sr0 doesn't give anything
[19:33] <T0by_> Bashing-om: Ok,I'll start the live-usb again and try that.
[19:33] <daftykins> priuon: yet you said it plays fine?
[19:33] <priuon> daftykins, it shows an empty file
[19:33] <priuon> yeah. well maybe the thing is mounted? can't find about it though
[19:33] <daftykins> yeah because... as genii mentioned, audio CDs don't contain a file system
[19:34] <daftykins> you can't really 'mount' an audio CD
[19:34] <priuon> daftykins, what am i looking for then?
[19:34] <T0by_> Bashing-om: Should the <- . be there aswell?
[19:34] <Bashing-om> T0by_: Presently only look'n .. see if the installer made that EFI boot partition.
[19:34] <priuon> well it should be possible to access the disc via sr0 should it not?
[19:34] <daftykins> priuon: if you want the disc contents you should rip it to FLAC for a lossless identical, you can't image up an audio CD afaiui
[19:34] <daftykins> no
[19:34] <Bashing-om> T0by_: Nope the '<-' is but my designation of a terminal command seperation from text.
[19:34] <priuon> daftykins, well. That's really not the issue
[19:35] <daftykins> priuon: what isn't?
[19:35] <priuon> daftykins, how do i create an iso from it?
[19:35] <daftykins> priuon: you don't
[19:35] <priuon> daftykins, why not?
[19:35] <daftykins> priuon: see above where i told you what you *can* do
[19:35] <daftykins> ugh, for all the reasons we've just explained, priuon :)
[19:36] <T0by_> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7676351/
[19:36] <user123321> Hey, if I'm going to need 3 VM's running Ubuntu, should I use LUbuntu for testing? [because it uses less resources]. Is it good as a server?
[19:36] <priuon> daftykins, i know that it is possible to rip a cd. but i really dont want to do this
[19:36] <Z3> Hi, do you know what is the best and more powerful minipc compatible with the official image of Ubuntu?  At least 2GB RAM and a Geforce gt 640
[19:36] <Bashing-om> T0by_: look'n at /7676351/.
[19:36] <daftykins> priuon: so explain to me what the actual task is... why do you want this audio CD on your system?
[19:36] <user123321> I need 3 servers running in VM's [2 servers + 1 common storage]
[19:36] <brontosaurusrex> priuon, short version: "ISO images contain a file system structure which audio discs do not have"
[19:36] <priuon> daftykins, why would it be impossible to grab the source data of the disc and write it into an image format?
[19:37] <daftykins> priuon: because it's stored in raw PCM, it's not a file system
[19:37] <priuon> daftykins, well it's forensic purpose i would say.
[19:37] <daftykins> priuon: now i can only help you if you stop going in circles and explain the task at hand
[19:38] <daftykins> there is nothing forensic about an audio CD :)
[19:38] <daftykins> is it scratched and you're trying to recover it?
[19:38] <CooLBALL> what graphics driver is the default for a nVidia GeForce GT 220
[19:38] <CooLBALL> ?
[19:39] <Bashing-om> T0by_: Yep it is there "  1            2048         1050623   512.0 MiB   EF00" However, encryption has ya locked out. I have no idea how to overcome "MBR: protective, Found valid GPT with protective MBR; using GPT." .
[19:39] <daftykins> CooLBALL: nouveau most likely.
[19:39] <priuon> daftykins, okay, my informations might have been false. ISO was supposed to be a raw image format. What image format is raw then?
[19:39] <T0by_> Bashing-om: Oh, so its still there.
[19:39] <T0by_> Bashing-om: Hmm
[19:40] <priuon> daftykins, the task at hand is to get the data from that disc into a single file format without changing the data.
[19:40] <daftykins> priuon: unless you're honest about what you're trying to do, continuing to discuss the theory isn't going to move this conversation along
[19:40] <priuon> daftykins, honest? how much more honest then telling what i want to do can i be?
[19:41] <daftykins> well you made more sense that time
[19:41] <Bashing-om> T0by_: Yep, sorry, But I have no idea as to how to oversome this encrytion block.
[19:41] <daftykins> priuon: ok, then the only way you can do that is by ripping to WAV or FLAC which is lossless audio and including a CUE image of how to write those tracks, so were it written to a CD-R it would be a bit-perfect duplicate of the original
[19:41] <priuon> daftykins, you're funny
[19:41] <daftykins> i am?
[19:41] <daftykins> why's that
[19:41] <priuon> i want the data to be unreadable as is
[19:42] <priuon> no compression
[19:42] <priuon> raw?
[19:42] <daftykins> you don't understand - WAV is 1:1
[19:42] <daftykins> FLAC is 1:1
[19:42] <priuon> a burnable image would be best
[19:42] <priuon> no FLAC is a compression
[19:42] <daftykins> so use WAV then?
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> priuon  no, FLAC is the equivalent of WAV
[19:42] <daftykins> FLAC compression is lossless.
[19:43] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> hello
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> free lossless audio codec, iirc
[19:43] <priuon> MonkeyDust, i would claim beeing capable to interpret FLAC binarys.
[19:43] <priuon> incapable
[19:43] <priuon> PCM is easily read
[19:45] <daftykins> priuon: you're not making any sense, rip the audio CD to WAV... you could even tell a program not to split the tracks, then you'd have a single WAV of the entire CD. then if you burnt that to a CD-R, it'd be a perfect replica of the original
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> priuon  use jack -Q -R -k to rip to wav
[19:46] <brontosaurusrex> you can't really rip perfectly an audio cd
[19:46] <daftykins> sure you can, but that's off topic here
[19:46] <brontosaurusrex> no you can't, at least not with 100% confidence
[19:46] <bprompt> ehhe
[19:47] <Z3> Hi, do you know what is the best  minipc compatible with the official image of Ubuntu?  At least 2GB RAM and a Geforce gt 640
[19:47] <priuon> MonkeyDust, i'll give it a try
[19:47] <daftykins> Z3: your question doesn't make much sense... are you asking for a recommendation for a small form factor PC to run ubuntu 14.04 ?
[19:47] <FRA|kaitanya> z3: lubuntu or xubuntu ?
[19:47] <priuon> how can i open the audio-cd with a hexeditor though?
[19:47] <priuon> will i have to rip it first?
[19:48] <Z3> daftykins yes, standard Ubuntu 14.04
[19:48] <bprompt> Z3:    as in ubuntu iso for a "netbook pc" ?
[19:48] <Z3> bprompt no, the standard image. Just want an standard x86 architecture in this minipc
[19:49] <FRA|kaitanya> z3: i have a 1,4GhZ notebook with 1GB ram and its running lubuntu nice if i dont use too much tabs in chromium :)
[19:49] <holstein> Z3: you can try a reseller such as system76 for "official" support of ubuntu
[19:49] <holstein> Z3: lubuntu works great here on all my netbooks and older, lower spec machines
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> priuon  asunder is a cd ripping GUI with several options
[19:50] <bprompt> Z3:   hmm I dunno any reason why the regular  ubuntu image wouldn't work, on the other hand as suggested by FRA|kaitanya, if you're after a light-version of it, then use Lubuntu I'd think
[19:50] <priuon> MonkeyDust, thanks, i'll stick with jack though
[19:51] <Z3> Thank you to all. Ok, I made the wrong question: What's the best minipc you could recommend? (I want to put Ubuntu there)
[19:51] <Z3> Standard Ubuntu 14.04
[19:51] <Z3> just in case, minipcs are pcs in a box, with everything inside, usually fanless
[19:51] <Z3> they are very small
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> priuon  great, it's what i prefer, too
[19:52] <bprompt> Z3:   what's the best mini pc?  or the the "ubuntu version that will give good performance on a low spec hardware"?
[19:52] <Z3> bprompt no, I want the more powerful hardware in a minipc, to run a normal Ubuntu 14.04
[19:53] <daftykins> Z3: look at the Intel NUCs
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> Z3  how 'mini' do you want to go?
[19:53] <bprompt> Z3:    o.hh... you're referring to hardwae then
[19:53] <Z3> yes, is really a hardware question
[19:53] <bprompt> s/(hardwa)/&re/
[19:53] <Z3> :-)
[19:53] <bprompt> :)
[19:53] <priuon> is .toc+.bin the closest one can get to a image from audiocd?
[19:54] <Z3> there are lot of these minipcs
 are you thinking something like chromebox ?
[19:54] <thatsmekaustubh> running ubuntu
[19:54] <Z3> MonkeyDust I want it runs perfectly a full HD movie
[19:54] <daftykins> Z3: the haswell celeron or the haswell i3 would be best
[19:55] <Z3> thatsmekaustubh I don't know chromebox sorry
[19:55] <brontosaurusrex> Z3, i run a full hd movie on a 10 year old box with a slightly newer nvidia (vdpau).
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> Z3  this is similar to raspberry pi, find ubuntu on this page http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/A10-OLinuXino-LIME
[19:56] <Z3> brontosaurusrex ok, but I tried days ago in a new laptop with an intel HD 4400 and the video quality was not good for me
[19:56] <daschel> daftykins, ok im back.  since i've never had good luck with proprietary drivers, i have a couple very basic questions.  should i just use th fglrx drivers automatically offered or should I install directly from the amd website?  and if i install from the website, should i purge anything before hand?
[19:57] <priuon> i still don't see why the audiocd isn't showing in sr0
[19:57] <priuon> where do i find it?
[19:57] <CREEEPEREXPLOSIV> holaa¡olaa¡hola¡
[19:57] <daftykins> daschel: since you mentioned not needing gaming support, stick to what you have now (probably the open source radeon driver) and then just try adding the audio support back in.
[19:57] <Z3> thank you MonkeyDust
[19:57] <T0by_> Bashing-om: Haha I solved it.
[19:58] <Z3> that Chromebox sounds good. Can you run Ubuntu 14.04 there?
[19:58] <T0by_> Bashing-om: I booted Windows, ran diskmgr and cleaned the disk out completely. Re-did everything and now I'm in.
[19:58] <daschel> daftykins, do you mean by adding a kernel boot parameter?
[19:58] <brontosaurusrex> Z3, afaik intel uses VA API, but i have no idea how to use that (never bothered so far)
[19:58] <daftykins> daschel: that's right, are you familiar with that or would you like a link?
 I have googled for it and found few results in that favor
[19:59] <daschel> daftykins, im reading about it as we speak
[19:59] <jorrakay> how do i reinstall init & friends via installer recovery?
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> Z3: all the boxes i installed 14.04 on, working great
[19:59] <daftykins> daschel: cool, radeon.audio=1 looks to be worth trying then
[19:59] <brontosaurusrex> Z3, probably worth reading https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/VA-API
 I am wondering about the day when I shall be using ubuntu in my asus tablet
[19:59] <daschel> daftykins, yea, that's what i see too
[19:59] <daftykins> daschel: i would recommend rebooting it and adding it as a one time test to try first :)
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> thatsmekaustubh: im already running ubuntu-touch on google nexus7
[20:00] <daschel> daftykins, thanks for the suggestion.  anything else i should be cautious about?
[20:00] <Bashing-om> T0by_: Hey Great ! You do good work ! Quick too !
[20:00] <Z3> yea thank you to everyone :-)
[20:00] <jorrakay> I removed init/upstart/plymouth from my system. is there any way to reinstall them thru recovery or do I just need to try and salvage my configs and reinstall
 I have asus fonepad 7 is it possible to have ubuntu running on it?
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> !touch | thatsmekaustubh
[20:01] <daftykins> daschel: nothing comes to mind... though i've not owned AMD hardware since the 9800 series \o/
[20:01] <daschel> daftykins, hehe
[20:02] <daftykins> wait i lie, i had an X800
[20:02] <bannanas> is there ubuntu linux for smartphones yet?
[20:02] <daftykins> !touch | bannanas
[20:02] <lotuspsychje> bannanas: yes, ubuntu-touch
[20:03] <daftykins> daschel: i'm off to another room now, drop me a highlight if you have success :)
[20:03] <bannanas> thanks guys
[20:03] <daschel> daftykins, i shall
[20:03] <daschel> daftykins, and thanks
[20:03] <daftykins> np :)
[20:03] <linuxuz3r> hey guys
[20:04] <commodor> sup
[20:04] <jorrakay> in recovery mode, with the shell brought up in the installer environment, does apt-get install to /target or the installer environment?
[20:04] <linuxuz3r> hey commodor
 I shall be back soon with queries regarding installation of ubuntu touch on asus fonepad 7 , I had read an article that ubuntu touch might have dual boot option. Is it possible to dual boot android and ubuntu touch yet?
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> thatsmekaustubh: join #ubuntu-touch plz
[20:05] <daftykins> jorrakay: it might have chroot'd into your install, check the hostname that appears. the disk may be mounted read only though...
[20:05] <bprompt> jorrakay:     logged in session environment
 i saw somewhere on the Internet that it can be done ... i think he tested it on Nexus
[20:06] <bprompt> jorrakay:   also, as daftykins said.... the recovery console mounts the system in read-only, you'd need remount it as rw
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-touch is very neat already, all join #ubuntu-touch to see !devices
[20:07] <bprompt> jorrakay:    so for apt-get to write anything, it'd need to be mounted as rw
[20:08] <jorrakay> bprompt daftykins I can get into my root drive rw, but I can't install anything via apt because there's no network (no ifupdown)
[20:08] <daftykins> jorrakay: are you using wired or wireless on this host?
[20:08] <jorrakay> Wired
[20:09] <daftykins> did you try running dhclient on your interface?
[20:09] <daftykins> check you've got an interface to start "ifconfig -a" (shouldn't need sudo but no harm either way)
[20:09] <daftykins> does eth0 exist? does it have an IP?
[20:10] <daschel> daftykins, it's not supported yet for this series.  i just found this: http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/  I think i'll just go for the proprietary drivers
[20:10] <daftykins> daschel: ah ok, good to know
[20:10] <jorrakay> daftykins: i ran dhclient and it looks like i already had a lease. I guess i was just being impatient! thanks its installing init etc. now. Hopefully this fixes my problem
[20:11] <daftykins> jorrakay: cool, good luck
[20:11] <bprompt> jorrakay:    also the way I've installed some stuff in recovery mode.. is I downloaded the .deb files first using "regular boot mode"   "sudo apt-get install WHATEVER -d"   , then grab the .deb files and run "dpkg -i" in recovery mode on them
[20:13] <thatsmekaustubh> does webchat.freenode has any android app to stay connected ?
[20:14] <tortib> hello everyone.
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> tortib: hi mate
[20:15] <tortib> If I want to start up a bin as a specific user when the system starts up.  What's the best way to do that?  su user -c command?
[20:16] <tortib> I was going to place that in /etc/rc.local but I didn't know if it would work
[20:16] <priuon> why does sr0 not open the audio-cd i have?
[20:16] <tortib> hi lotuspsychje
[20:17] <bekks> priuon: How are you trying to "open" the audio cd?
[20:17] <thebirddude5> Hi guys
[20:18] <priuon> bekks: gksu bless CTRL+O /dev/sr0
[20:18] <bekks> !info bless
[20:18] <bekks> priuon: Uhm, why are you trying to edit a read-only device?
[20:19] <priuon> bekks: i want to read it
[20:19] <bekks> priuon: So you dont want to listen to the music actually?
[20:19] <priuon> not right now no
[20:21] <tortib> Can some one help me with my problem? :\
[20:22] <lotuspsychje> tortib: whats your end goal exactly?
[20:22] <tortib> well I want to run ZNC when I start the system as a specific user.
[20:22] <tortib> but su asks for a password so I guess I can't use that
[20:22] <priuon> bekks: are you still with me?
[20:22] <daschel> daftykins, well, the proprietary driver game me sound!!!....but it's not recognizing my secondary monitor properly :)
[20:22] <Sunstream|Ubuntu> Anyone here can help me with 2 things? One I like to change the color of my Terminal screen text and background, and I would like to find out why I canot see videos with VLC and dvds
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream|Ubuntu: terminal colors you can change in profile
[20:23] <bekks> priuon: So whats happening when you try to "read" the audio cd?
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream|Ubuntu: and did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[20:23] <jorrakay> my boot is still super slow and never actually completes. i occasionally get '/tmp is not ready' messages as well. I'm at a loss here
[20:23] <priuon> bekks: nothing shows
[20:24] <Sunstream|Ubuntu> Profile?
[20:24] <Sunstream|Ubuntu> Profile?
[20:24] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream|Ubuntu: terminal/edit/profile
[20:24] <jorrakay> init can't find ureadahead either
[20:25] <jorrakay> this is killing me. I'm just going to start a reinstall
[20:26] <Sunstream|Ubuntu> Um I dont kow how do I find out
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> tortib: cant you make user login by default, then add znc to startup items?
[20:26] <tortib> lotuspsychje: i'm running ubuntu-server
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> tortib: oh right
[20:27] <tortib> It's a VPS
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> tortib: anything usefull in 'man znc' ?
[20:27] <tortib> lotuspsychje: nope
[20:28] <daschel> I just switched to a proprietary graphics driver, but my secondary monitor isn't being recognized properly.  it's a 24 inch, but it's detected as a 23 inch so there's a black border around the visible area.  anyone know what i can do to fix this?
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> tortib: maybe here: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-znc-an-irc-bouncer-on-an-ubuntu-vps
[20:30] <tortib> lotuspsychje: lol I've already set it up
[20:30] <tortib> I want it to _start_ as my user when I start the machine up.
[20:31] <Sunstream|Androi> okay switched to a seperate device
[20:31] <Sunstream|Androi> so on the menubar select edit then terminal then profile
[20:31] <Sunstream|Androi> is that what ya mean?
[20:31] <tortib> lotuspsychje: ah I googled, sudo :D
[20:32] <tortib> sudo can be added
[20:32] <tortib> er you can add the bin to sudo and have it start with sudo without asking for the password :D
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream|Androi: yes
[20:32] <Sunstream|Androi> okay
[20:33] <bannanas> what type of music you guys listen to
[20:33] <lotuspsychje> !ot | bannanas
[20:34] <botas_negras> can i block a ip in ufw? like iptables: iptables -I INPUT -s 111.222.333.444 -j DROP
[20:34] <agent_white> Hey folks! I'm building a kernel from scratch. About to run `mkinitcpio` but I need to find the version of the kernel (not of mine currently running, but of the one I downloaded.) How do I do this?
[20:34] <agent_white> (I just cloned https://github.com/torvalds/linux)
[20:35] <lotuspsychje> !iptables | botas_negras
[20:35] <lotuspsychje> !kernel | agent_white
[20:36] <agent_white> lotuspsychje: Thank you!
[20:36] <circ-user-eGOmL> can any one help me out? i have extraceted a file with wine and now i can't find it
[20:37] <lotuspsychje> circ-user-eGOmL: extracted with what?
[20:37] <lenny___> lokk in .wine/drive_c
[20:37] <lenny___> somthing like that
[20:37] <Sunstream|Droid> text stop coming in
[20:38] <circ-user-eGOmL> okay thanks
[20:39] <lenny___> I mean, for whatever reason wine's c; drive is under an hidden folder in your home dir
[20:39] <botas_negras> ubottu: ufw is only a commandline interface  for iptables like gufw is a gui? am i right?
[20:39] <priuon> bbl.
[20:39] <lotuspsychje> !info ufw | botas_negras
[20:40] <lenny___> in other words, yes
[20:40] <lotuspsychje> !info gufw | botas_negras
[20:40] <tortib> how can I check if a init.d script is set to run at startup?
[20:40] <Sunstream|Droid> how do i see if i have the rewtricted exttaa
[20:40] <tortib> I'm trying to use rc.local and I want to ensure that the rc.local file will be executed at startup
[20:40] <lotuspsychje> Sunstream|Droid: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:42] <lenny___> rc bash scripts are evil. please submit your soul to systemd.
[20:42] <bannanas> how would someone get a function linux install on a non-PAE pentium M with 500 MB memory
[20:42] <Sunstream|Droid> okay
[20:43] <Sunstream|Droid> i have an update going on i have to wait
[20:43] <lenny___> you get an old linux, but current ones should work
[20:43] <botas_negras> ubottu: thank i will read first the link you shared me, and if i have more questions later ask here
[20:44] <bannanas> lenny i tried the force pae option with lubuntu 14.04 but it didnt seem to work
[20:44] <bannanas> i got a blank screen. like gnome or unity or whatever shell it uses didnt load
[20:44] <lenny___> but the kernel itself did load, right?
[20:45] <bannanas> i think so
[20:45] <lenny___> so maybe it's some graphics stuff, like
[20:45] <bannanas> maybe. not sure on that. it was just a live cd with the install
[20:45] <botas_negras> ubottu: :-0 nice to meet you bot, anyway you help me thanks
[20:45] <lenny___> for whatever reason they removed a lot of firmware
[20:45] <Pato> Hoola :)
[20:45] <bannanas> ill just try an older version of lubuntu
[20:45] <lenny___> from the standard distros that used to support some older video cards and stuff
[20:46] <lenny___> try to install the linux-firmware package if you can
[20:46] <bannanas> is it possible to just use an old version of linux and update stuff, like firefox and some plugins, lenny?
[20:46] <lenny___> sometimes old hardware needs it and it's not included anymore
[20:47] <lenny___> depends how much work d you want to invest on it
[20:47] <lenny___> if you can somhow get a root shell
[20:47] <bannanas> ah
[20:47] <lenny___> do apt get linux-firmware
[20:47] <lenny___> something like that
[20:48] <bannanas> it has to be connected to lan internet though right?
[20:48] <lenny___> or examine dmesg, because older linuxes are a security hazard in general
[20:48] <lenny___> yes, you've got to downliad it
[20:49] <lenny___> try to understand the problem a little better maybe, or maybe try another distro
[20:49] <lenny___> try debian I don't know
[20:49] <bannanas> everything ive read says that it needs to be a non-pae kernel
[20:49] <Sunstream|Droid> can i get that command to get the restricted extras please
[20:50] <lenny___> try to install a vanilla debian
[20:50] <lenny___> for 32 bits machines
[20:50] <e^> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:50] <lenny___> see what happens
[20:52] <Sunstream|Droid> okay what do the extras get me agaon
[20:52] <Sunstream|Droid> an  thank you guys
[20:53] <ridbowt> hello! I've just installed an application. The application pulled many of neccessary libraries. Now, I can uninstall only this program, how can I delete and those libraries too? Is it possible,at least and does it make sense? (Excuse me for my English).
[20:53] <Pricey> ridbowt: If you installed it with apt-get, apt-get autoremove
[20:53] <Fyodorovna> !restrictedformats | Sunstream|Droid,
[20:54] <ridbowt> Pricey, I did it via Synaptic
[20:55] <Sunstream|Droid> oh the formats for dvd and mp3s d such
[20:56] <lenny___> in general you shouldn't bother uninstalling packages
[20:56] <Sunstream|Droid> okay
[20:56] <Sunstream|Droid> so with the extraa
[20:57] <Fyodorovna> ridbowt, apt-get purge "app" works well and the autoremove if you just remove.
[20:57] <Sunstream|Droid> i should be able to watch dvds now
[20:57] <Fyodorovna> Sunstream|Droid, Have you looked at the first link the bot suggest's?
[20:57] <lenny___> if you have stuff that you've compiled yourself and depends on some unused libraries
[20:58] <Sunstream|Droid> hold
[20:58] <lenny___> uninstalling them it's going to break your custom stuff
[20:58] <Fyodorovna> !who | Sunstream|Droid
[20:58] <ridbowt> Fyodorovna, okey, I thank you
[21:00] <Sunstream|Droid> oma
[21:00] <Sunstream|Droid> okay
[21:00] <Sunstream|Droid> cool now i should test this
[21:00] <Fyodorovna> Sunstream|Droid, Use nicks here if you address another, and no one word responses please, we want to communicate, and feel we are on the same page.
[21:01] <qstrahl> In the power settings, there is an option to suspend after some amount of "inactivity". What exactly is the definition of "inactivity"? User input? Processes actively doing some stuff as logged in user? If I'm playing music for example, could it time out and cut off the music?
[21:01] <Anarchos> what means "kernel panic - not syncing out of memory" at boot from a LiveCD (i precise that i have a corrupted hard drive)
[21:01] <Sunstream|Droid> Fyodorovna, i am using a tablet to talk here an  i read the page
[21:02] <Sunstream|Droid> i am switching  to my laptop
[21:02] <MonkeyDust> Anarchos  it means you a corrupted hard drive
[21:02] <MonkeyDust> you have*
[21:02] <Fyodorovna> Sunstream|Droid, not sure how any of that is pertinent, but it seems to be to you.
[21:03] <Anarchos> MonkeyDust i kknow that : i want to recover it from a livecd with TestDisk but no recovery CD boots.
[21:03] <Fyodorovna> qstrahl, suspend has a time right, inactivity would be no computer use just idling.
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> Anarchos: why no use your backups?
[21:05] <qstrahl> Fyodorovna, Can you define "computer use"? Like no process is using the CPU? That seems... impossible.
[21:05] <Anarchos> ActionParsnip i have no backup
[21:05] <Fyodorovna> qstrahl, you understand idle?
[21:05] <qstrahl> Fyodorovna, Can you answer the example case? If music is playing, will it cut off the music because I'm not "doing" anything?
[21:06] <Fyodorovna> qstrahl, should not, that is not idling.
[21:06] <lenny___> it will depending on what player you're using ti play the music
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Anarchos: why is there not a backup? Is your data not important?
[21:06] <qstrahl> Fyodorovna, Okay, thank you.
[21:07] <lenny___> media players and games have simulate activity
[21:07] <lenny___> to avoid screensaver, etc...
[21:07] <lenny___> but on linux, thanks to Lennart, it doesn't always work
[21:07] <qstrahl> lenny___, How about if wget is downloading something?
[21:07] <lenny___> that will go on normally
[21:08] <Fyodorovna> lenny___, I believe this was a suspend issue.
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> Lenny___: what is Lennart?
[21:08] <qstrahl> So it will not suspend if wget is actively downloading something?
[21:08] <qstrahl> Or say if I have updates running
[21:08] <Anarchos> ActionParsnip i know, but you are not very helpful with such comments.
[21:08] <lenny___> but anyway, it depends on the player you're using
[21:08] <lenny___> if it does the right thing to avoid suspend or not
[21:09] <lenny___> there's a really long story about that that concerns android and wakelocks
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> Anarchos: just curious of the mindset. It makes no sense to me at all but it seems to be a thing to you.
[21:09] <OerHeks> Anarchos, if the live-cd won't  even boot.. maybe the controller is broken, put that hdd in an other machine ?
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Anarchos: if your drive motor failed, where is your data then? A USB drive is a tonne cheaper than professional data recovery
[21:10] <lenny___> having a broken hard drive connected sometimes confuses linux and it doesn't boot
[21:10] <lenny___> it happens, just change the failed hard drive
[21:11] <lenny___> or disconnect it and boot from an USB stick
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> lenny___: what is Lennart please?
[21:11] <lenny___> Lennart Poettering, somebody I hate and sombody you should hate too
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> lenny___: well considering ive not even heard of them ill reserve judgement.
[21:12] <qstrahl> lenny___, why hate? That's just unproductive. =)
[21:12] <lenny___> just know that the majority of things that don't work on linux, he personally fat fingered them
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> lenny___: if a drive has failed, remove it
[21:12] <lenny___> I agree
[21:12] <lenny___> if a drive has failed you...
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> lenny___: many, but i dont care as I have backups...
[21:14] <lenny___> you know what to do. take off every zig.
[21:18] <thatsmekaustubh> has anyone experiences the situation where ubuntu just hangs up on playing a media like movie or doing any activity with a descent hardware?
[21:19] <lenny___> many have experienced that
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> thatsmekaustubh: have you tested the memory using Memtest86+ from Grub
[21:19] <lenny___> it's called the "mesa" project
[21:19] <Loshki> Lennart Poettering wrote pulseaudio, in case anyone was wondering but too lazy to google
[21:19] <thatsmekaustubh> it keeps on going
[21:19] <thatsmekaustubh> i went upto pass 2 with no errors
[21:19] <thatsmekaustubh> after 3 hours
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> thatsmekaustubh  so your system is stalled?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> thatsmekaustubh: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[21:21] <thatsmekaustubh> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[21:21] <thatsmekaustubh> I am in live cd at present
[21:21] <thatsmekaustubh> and my harddrive installation has stuck to initramfs  screen
[21:21] <thatsmekaustubh> yes the system is stalled
[21:22] <MonkeyDust> thatsmekaustubh  does the 13.04 live cd freeze? have you tried with a supported version?
[21:23] <tacomaster> is there a way to stop the animation of the app icons in the unity bar? Basically I want the unity bar to pretend it ever exists. I have it already hidden with unity-tweak-tool but when i minimize a program or bring to the front it pops a box out where the program would be on the unity bar that is hidden
[21:23] <Loshki> Is 14.04 stable? It's only had a couple of months in the field, right?
[21:24] <bekks> It is considered stable since April 2014.
[21:24] <MonkeyDust> Loshki  it was released when it was stgable
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> thatsmekaustubh: raring is eol and no longer supported
[21:25] <lenny___> unity is all about uniform experience: everybody has to experience the same pain
[21:25] <MonkeyDust> lenny___  yes, learning something new can be painful and frustrating
[21:25] <lenny___> I was criticizing the philosophy
[21:26] <lenny___> maybe try xubuntu. I'm using it and it's relaly good
[21:26] <Loshki> bekks: Well, it was *released* when 04/2014 rolled around, whether it was ready or not. So was it ready? I usually wait 6 months...
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> lenny___: you dont have to use unity. Just like you dont have to use firefox
[21:27] <bekks> Loshki: It was released when it was stable, following the release plan.
[21:28] <lenny___> taht's exactly why I'm using xubuntu
[21:28] <lenny___> I was just saying that by design, if you use unity, you subscribe to its philosophy
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> Loshki  plenty online reviews confirm it since April 2014
[21:29] <lenny___> they call it "branding"
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> lenny___: i dont see your point. Some people like unity......
[21:29] <Loshki> bekks: MonkeyDust: ok, I'll give 14.04 a shot, thanks...
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> lenny___  what's your point exactly?
[21:30] <lenny___> read the GUI design philosophy documents written by the gnome3 /unity guys
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> lenny___  why? what's your point?
[21:31] <lenny___> it's all explained there, ny design you shouldn't change stuff
[21:31] <Loshki> lenny___: Actually, I'd like to. Got a url?
[21:31] <lenny___> because by tweaking stuff you break the branding
[21:31] <lenny___> I don't have urls at hand but google John McCann
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> lenny___: what? And hold back innovation...yeah thats totally in the gui philosophy
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> lenny___  Loshki methinks it's more for #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:32] <lenny___> or some of the autors of unity / gnome 3
[21:32] <lenny___> MonkeyDust, they asked me
[21:32] <Loshki> MonkeyDust: to offtopic with it, I agree...
[21:33] <lenny___> but I don't see how discussing the ubuntu gui is offtopic in #ubuntu anyway
[21:33] <lenny___> maybe you're just afraid of criticism
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> lenny___  this channel is for supporet, not for discussion
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> support*
[21:33] <Guest35471> hola alguien habla español?
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> !es
[21:33] <subz3r0> hola pendejo, tutti frutti
[21:45] <SierraAR> What were the different packages for desktops to replace the default one ubuntu uses? The only one I can remember was xfce
[21:46] <meek_geek> how r u all
[21:46] <meek_geek> I need to know which laptop would be better if something is buying a laptop for gaming ?
[21:46] <meek_geek> with amd or nvidia /
[21:46] <lolek> Hi Everybody, I've got problem connecting my bt gateway, here is error from syslog: Bluetooth: re-auth of legacy device is not possible. I'm running ubuntu 14.04 on headless machine
[21:46] <streamofthot> Good evening everyone. I'm on a Samsung NP355E5C laptop with an AMD 7210HD Radeon; things work fine with the Catalyst drivers, except that when I open my laptop's lid after suspension all I get is a blank screen, so I cannot return to what I was doing. I'm on 14.04, issue happens with any version of fglrx
[21:47] <SierraAR> meek_geek: Not sure if the #ubuntu channel would be right for that, unless you're specifically looking to game using Ubuntu?
[21:47] <SierraAR> meek_geek: Otherwise, might try ##hardware
[21:48] <CooLBALL> holy cannoli I just priced quad core CPUs from AMD
[21:49] <compdoc> they arent apus?
[21:49] <CooLBALL> and they are AM1 socket so the mobo is in the range of $30 to $40
[21:50] <CooLBALL> APU?
[21:50] <compdoc> yeah, those are called apus now
[21:50] <CooLBALL> what is the a for?
[21:50] <compdoc> they come in dual and quad, and include a GPU (video card)
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> Its like sandy bridge
[21:51] <compdoc> the AM1 use very little power
[21:51] <CooLBALL> i saw 25 watts
[21:51] <kittykitty> anyone know why my screen dims after 3 seconds on a fresh 14.04 install and the screen dim turned off??? :P
[21:51] <SierraAR> CooLBALL: Google says 'Accelerated Processing Unit'
[21:51] <SierraAR> CooLBALL: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CD8QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAccelerated_processing_unit&ei=zaykU5_DJ8ztoATw84CwAw&usg=AFQjCNHtUHIWT-4zOxaXVe4Ef0lNFHxcVw&sig2=fGwB3fJTiy3O4lxnJ1gItw&bvm=bv.69411363,d.cGU
[21:51] <compdoc> the FM2 socket is faster, but cost more and use more power
[21:51] <SierraAR> ... I keep forgetting google does that to links
[21:51] <SierraAR> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_processing_unit
[21:53] <CooLBALL> now I can build cheap computers to sell on craigslist
[21:53] <kittykitty> anyone know how to not screen dim? lol
[21:55] <tacomaster> is there no way to disable unity bar animations when you open a program?
[21:58] <pavlos> kittykitty, this may help ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/459591/how-to-disable-screen-dimming-in-14-04
[21:58] <lolek> CooLBALL: the only prob is the chasis, if you want something "nice", then you'll see that those are like to be pricey :/
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> CooLBALL: computers are cheap
[21:59] <kittykitty> its not minutes though, its 3 seconds lol. In display, ive turned off dimming so why isnt that working...??
[21:59] <kittykitty> i had it working before, did a reinstall so there must be another way
[21:59] <lolek> kittykitty: what machine?
[21:59] <kittykitty> an intel acer aspire 5750, i think its to do with the display and ive not got intel graphics installed yet
[22:02] <pavlos> kittykitty, seems you need to edit the grub options
[22:02] <kittykitty> to add what ? :P
[22:02] <kingbeowolf> how can i connect a windows computer to my extra nic ?
[22:02] <kingbeowolf> i dont have a crossover cable
[22:02] <pavlos> kittykitty, see first answer ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/128463/how-to-control-brightness
[22:03] <jorrakay> kingbeowolf: iirc you don't need one with modern hardware...
[22:03] <kittykitty> btw, the hardware keys for it work :P
[22:03] <kingbeowolf> jorrakay, im trying to connect it directly for improved Steam game streaming
[22:04] <meek_geek> anyone using geforce gt 720m ?
[22:05] <mark06> is seahorse some kind of joke?
[22:05] <MonkeyDust> meek_geek  that's a yes/no question
[22:05] <marknew> I would like to run Windows programs in Ubuntu 14.04.  Any way to do this?
[22:05] <marknew> Specifically Office 365.
[22:05] <MonkeyDust> !wine | marknew start here
[22:06] <marknew> It said I had to remove my Nvidia drivers to install.  What is your take?
[22:07] <jorrakay> kingbeowolf: did you try it yet? did you manually configure tcp/ip on both machines?
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> marknew  to install what?
[22:07] <marknew> WINE.
[22:08] <qkzoo1978> I luve *buntu
[22:09] <meek_geek> qkzoo1978, why?
[22:10] <qkzoo1978> Because I can install it on every pc I own, do what I need to, with no thanks to MS.
[22:11] <meek_geek> qkzoo1978, one question? Do you own a laptop with dedicated graphics card ?
[22:11] <kingbeowolf> jorrakay, no because i don't know what to do
[22:11] <qkzoo1978> I've got this MSi
[22:11] <qkzoo1978> With a NVidia
[22:11] <meek_geek> qkzoo1978, how much vram ? 1 GB ?
[22:11] <jorrakay> kingbeowolf: how are the windows machine and steam box (i assume) currently connected to the network
[22:11] <qkzoo1978> No idea
[22:12] <meek_geek> qkzoo1978, don't you play games ?
[22:12] <kingbeowolf> jorrakay, it is connected to my ubuntu computer via an extra nic
[22:12] <qkzoo1978> meek_geek, not really O.o
[22:12] <qkzoo1978> Well, maybe if you count Freeciv, or Domination, lol
[22:12] <jorrakay> kingbeowolf: what is the other nic connected to?
[22:13] <kingbeowolf> my router
[22:13] <jorrakay> why don't you plug the windows machine into your router instead?
[22:13] <kingbeowolf> jorrakay, its faster if i just connect it to my computer speed wise
[22:13] <lolek> any idea about problem connecting with bt device? syslog contains only this entry: "Bluetooth: re-auth of legacy device is not possible" ?
[22:13] <jorrakay> kingbeowolf: that's incorrect
[22:14] <kingbeowolf> jorrakay, a direct connection without a middle man is faster
[22:14] <jorrakay> you're talking single digit ms of latency, kingbeowolf
[22:14] <jorrakay> that is negligible
[22:14] <kingbeowolf> when you are streaming a game it counts
[22:15] <jorrakay> SINGLE DIGIT ms
[22:15] <kingbeowolf> they add up
[22:15] <jorrakay> to...?
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> Not really
[22:15] <kingbeowolf> higher time delays
[22:15] <jorrakay> you don't know what you're talking about though
[22:15] <jorrakay> you said yourself
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> kingbeowolf: a few ms is negligable in gaming online
[22:17] <jorrakay> you probably wouldn't even notice 100ms if they went out from under you
[22:17] <mark06> why doesn't my seahorse list my ssh keys? they're just fine, and gpg import doesn't work, so it doesn't ssh import either
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> Mark06: tried youtube for guides?
[22:18] <kingbeowolf> ActionParsnip, you have done a lot of streaming of games over steam and playing multiplayer?
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> kingbeowolf: yes, over speeds significantly slower than you are used to
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> kingbeowolf: in your games, next time you play have the ping showing. You will find it fluctuates wildly often by many hundreds of milliseconds
[22:20] <jorrakay> kingbeowolf: i've worked on network games before. there's no such thing as "real-time", all games have ways of estimating/fudging numbers to fit together within many hundreds of ms of latency
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> kingbeowolf: ive played games when steam wasnt even around and halflife was owned by valve.
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> kingbeowolf: im guessing you are early twenties in age...
[22:21] <mark06> ActionParsnip: does it work for you?
[22:21] <kingbeowolf> Have you streamed games with Steam?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> Mark06: does what work?
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> kingbeowolf: no i dont use steam, but i stream other stuff over WAN.
[22:23] <smaudet> Can anyone help with a moderately tricky ethernet problem? I've got a r8169 driver for an ethernet port that seems to be misbehaving...I've not verified that it is a driver problem and not a hardware malfucntion yet, but I have configuration issues as it stands with my internet drivers, e.g. I have to modprobe a wireless driver into my kernel every time I boot...I took a look at dmesg, and it
[22:23] <smaudet> looks like the issue may be that the driver is somehow assigned, twice, once, for eth0, and then again, for eth3, although eth0 doesn't show up when I use e.g. ifconfig -a
[22:23] <smaudet> Any ideas?
[22:23] <jorrakay> kingbeowolf: The latency that steam incurs when streaming a game is not related to the network. It can only be so responsive when it has to package everything up and do it over the network instead of inside the computer.
[22:24] <smaudet> And I've already verified there's nothing wrong with the wire, or the router or its port.
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> smaudet: if you add the command to load the module in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line it will run at boot
[22:24] <mark06> ActionParsnip: I'm sorry, didn't you read the question? please stop trolling
[22:24] <DadFoundMy> can i use xinput to bind a key on my keyboard to a comand such as emulate mousewheel?
[22:25] <smaudet> ActionParsnip, thanks, I'll try that, any idea bout the the ethernet issue though? wireless device is wlan0, so different issue than the eth0/eth3 one
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> Mark06: the first thing you have said to me is "does it work for you" so I was asking for clarification. What are you asking please and i will answer as well as i can
[22:26] <kingbeowolf> jorrakay, if you don't know how to do it just say so
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> Mark06: so not trolling at all. If you want me to answer a question, i am happy to
[22:26] <mark06> ActionParsnip: Mark06: tried youtube for guides?
[22:26] <mark06> ActionParsnip: so please stop it, thanks
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> Mark06: ahhh, now it makes sense :-)
[22:27] <smaudet> ActionParsnip: I will brb, I am going to try rebooting to see if that worked.
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> Mark06: if you dont answer promptly i tend to forget the thread or assume you are afk
[22:27] <jorrakay> kingbeowolf: I definitely know how to do it, I've already told you. manually configure tcp/ip on both computers after connecting them together. It's not my fault YOU don't know how to do that part. I suggest you do some research
[22:27] <mark06> ActionParsnip: I don't care a minimum about you
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> Mark06: but as you wish I will stop whatever it was I was doing. You clearly have a fantastic attitude.
[22:27]  * mark06 /ignores
[22:28] <kingbeowolf> jorrakay, gee how helpful
[22:28] <jorrakay> kingbeowolf: you obviously didn't even *try*
[22:28] <kingbeowolf> jorrakay, and you know everything thanks just drop it i will figure it out myself without the communities help on irc
[22:29] <jorrakay> kingbeowolf: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=manually+configuring+tcp%2Fip+on+windows
[22:30] <jorrakay> set an ip for your ubuntu machine's spare nic and configure your windows machine to have a different ip
[22:30] <jorrakay> then set whatever steam nonsense you have going to look for the streaming server at the ip you set up
[22:30] <kingbeowolf> jorrakay, you know believe it or not some people actually enjoy having a conversation about a technical issue rather then saying lmgtfy but as I said just drop it unless you want to be a bully
[22:31] <jorrakay> make sure they are different subnet otherwise it won't work
[22:31] <jorrakay> from your 'first' nic
[22:31] <jorrakay> note, this will take your windows machine off of the network your router is on, meaning it won't have internet
[22:31] <jorrakay> good luck connecting to steam...
[22:32] <jorrakay> do you see the problems you're making yourself here? that's the only point i am trying to make
[22:32] <jorrakay> you are essentially bullying yourself by holding onto a non-truth of '1 wire between two machines HAS to be faster for muh games!!!'
[22:33] <kingbeowolf> yes I understood your very strong opinion on the matter and I heard it.  I accepted that as your opinion, but it isn't what I am trying to do as I said.  You are the one that is having trouble hearing ME.
[22:33] <jorrakay> it isn't an opinion though. connecting your machines this way 1.will be very difficult for you 2. will have no benefit
[22:33] <jorrakay> these are facts
[22:34] <kingbeowolf> Yes yes your very strong opinion thanks can you please drop it now
[22:35] <Ben64> Jun 20 2014 15:02:47 <kingbeowolf>	i dont have a crossover cable
[22:35] <Ben64> then you can't connect them directly
[22:36] <jorrakay> that was true 10 years ago Ben64 but ethernet has evolved
[22:36] <smaudet> kingbeowolf: I've made one, and then I never use it :P
[22:36] <smaudet> Bit of a hassle to cut it up, wire, solder, but that's just my opinion
[22:36] <Ben64> jorrakay is correct though, it is not going to be better than using a router
[22:36] <cLoCkWiSe> ls
[22:36] <tacomaster> God i swear unity is such a pain to customize
[22:37] <cLoCkWiSe> hello
[22:37] <cLoCkWiSe> can some one help me with a cron job
[22:37] <kingbeowolf> Linux has the software to make a network card act as a router
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> tacomaster: ive heard that a lot
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> kingbeowolf: yes, its used in Cisxo and Linksys routers :-)
[22:37] <Ben64> kingbeowolf: if you already have a router, you should use that. for better in home streaming... get gigabit equipment
[22:38] <cLoCkWiSe> i have a bash script called P10 thats in the root directory of the file system. I want the script to run every 5 minutes. So i added the following to crontab -e '0 5 * * * root ./P10' Why isn't it working, i tried starting/restarting the cron service, anybody can help me?
[22:39] <Ben64> cLoCkWiSe: use the full path to the script
[22:39] <kingbeowolf> Ben64, people build home routers out of Linux boxes
[22:39] <darkdrgn2k> hey
[22:39] <darkdrgn2k> to boot a ubuntu ditro from PXE do i need to install any packages (ie net version of initramfs) first?
[22:39] <kingbeowolf> actually pretty nice
[22:39] <tacomaster> Is there anyone good at customizing unity in here?
[22:40] <kingbeowolf> I actually have 5 ethernet ports on my system
[22:40] <tacomaster> kingbeowolf: why??
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> cLoCkWiSe: crontab would be: */5 * * * * /path/to/script
[22:41] <akurilin> quick question for you guys: are you folks aware of any decent shops out there that let you customize a pc and will put it together for you and ship it? Meant to be used with Ubuntu of course. I know there are tons of gaming rigs shops on the web, but I'm actually more interesed in a development workstation than something with a thousand video cards.
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> cLoCkWiSe: if it needs running as root, run: sudo crontab -e
[22:41] <tacomaster> akurilin: system76
[22:41] <kingbeowolf> tacomaster, turn my system into a router
[22:41] <pangaea_> can you free up extra ram left on pci-e, have 1gb using 256mb?
[22:41] <tacomaster> kingbeowolf: hell more like a switch lol
[22:42] <Ben64> kingbeowolf: routers usually do a better job at being routers
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: and less power
[22:42] <kingbeowolf> ActionParsnip, I guess it depends what you do with your systems
[22:42] <Fyodorovna> pangaea_, Free up? are you swapping?
[22:43] <pangaea_> not really sure. shows 1gb avail but using 256 mb internal shut down....
[22:43] <tacomaster> Ben64: not always. A router than recieves tons and tons of connections would be better as a computer, more power to route everything with out slow down
[22:43] <Ben64> tacomaster: hence "usually"
[22:44] <tacomaster> Ben64: well unless you can afford really expensive routers
[22:44] <akurilin> tacomaster: so you've been pretty happy with their build quality and all?
[22:44] <kingbeowolf> might even be helpful for complex firewall/routing rules
[22:44] <Fyodorovna> pangaea_, Not sure I under stand your point " using 256 mb internal shut down...."
[22:44] <smaudet> ActionParsnip, Ben64, also power is not the only metric, it is usually more green to repurpose a computer, especially old ones, than it is to throw them out.
[22:45] <tacomaster> akurilin: im on a system76 laptop now. I have really liked it a lot. Well besides unity being a pain to really customize properly lol. But thats not system76's fault
[22:45] <smaudet> unless the power suck is especially bad, but I'd wager its not
[22:45] <Ben64> old computers use many times more power than a router would
[22:45] <pangaea_> shut off internal card using eidt command line inserted line, installed drivers xorg etc....restart, have only 256 avail on pci-s
[22:46] <smaudet> vs going into a landfill? sure they do
[22:46] <tacomaster> akurilin: the battery life could be a little better but i have an i-7 processor so I really shouldnt complain about battery life lol
[22:46] <pangaea_> pci-e
[22:46] <pangaea_> i'm wondering if mesa is force sgaring ram with dimm?
[22:46] <pangaea_> sharing
[22:47] <Ben64> pangaea_: can you give a lot more information?
[22:48] <cLoCkWiSe> sorry guys
[22:48] <cLoCkWiSe> none of your suggestions worked
[22:48] <cLoCkWiSe> i have a bash script called P10 thats in the root directory of the file system. I want the script to run every 5 minutes. So i added the following to crontab -e '0 5 * * * root ./P10' Why isn't it working, i tried starting/restarting the cron service, anybody can help me?
[22:48] <tacomaster> akurilin: I think there is another company called think penguin that sells ubuntu computers
[22:48] <pangaea_> ok, i have an ati radeon card w/1gb of ram, when i check values , it loads correct but shows...available mem 1024  set(256mb)
[22:48] <akurilin> tacomaster: fair enough. I'm looking for a desktop at this point just to save the team time on building it ourselves by hand.
[22:48] <Ben64> cLoCkWiSe: use the full path to the script
[22:49] <cLoCkWiSe> the full path is just/
[22:49] <cLoCkWiSe> its in the root directory
[22:49] <Ben64> cLoCkWiSe: and listen to the other suggestions too
[22:49] <Ben64> cLoCkWiSe: then why do you have ./
[22:49] <cLoCkWiSe> to run the script?
[22:49] <akurilin> tacomaster: it's kind of funny that there's even such a thing as a "ubuntu computer" heh, most desktop parts seem to be supported quite well out of the box. Some on-motherboard devices can be too new at times though
[22:49] <cLoCkWiSe> all i need to put is /P10
[22:49] <Ben64> cLoCkWiSe: and why is "root" there
[22:49] <smaudet> should I be running the udevadm command to restart my eth* devices?
[22:49] <cLoCkWiSe> '0 5 * * * /P10'
[22:50] <smaudet> ifconfig up/down don't seem to be generating anything in dmesg
[22:50] <cLoCkWiSe> thats all i need to do?
[22:50] <subz3r0> cLoCkWiSe: minute, hour, day, month, day of week
[22:50] <Ben64> cLoCkWiSe: if you want it to run at 5am every day, yes
[22:51] <subz3r0> "I want the script to run every 5 minutes."
[22:51] <subz3r0> see the mistake?
 cLoCkWiSe: crontab would be: */5 * * * * /path/to/script
[22:51] <owen1> how to install virtualbox on ubuntu 14.04?
[22:51] <pangaea_> ok i'll just grab some 7-up, just trying to free up ram on my pci-e is what's going on
[22:51] <Ben64> !info virtualbox
[22:51] <subz3r0> Ben64: thanks ;)
[22:51] <Ben64> owen1: sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[22:52] <ereotav> ^^this
[22:52] <subz3r0> Ben64: no
[22:52] <subz3r0> vbox of the repos is outdated
[22:52] <ereotav> oh yeah
[22:52] <ereotav> get it from the oracle site, the deb
[22:52] <tacomaster> really outdated
[22:52] <cLoCkWiSe> ahhh
[22:52] <cLoCkWiSe> ok
[22:52] <cLoCkWiSe> thanks guys
[22:52] <Ben64> dont do that
[22:52] <cLoCkWiSe> let me try what you have told me
[22:52] <subz3r0> no
[22:53] <Ben64> !latest
[22:53] <subz3r0> add the source to you /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:53] <Ben64> if you want to not get support here, sure
[22:53] <subz3r0> Ben64: sorry, but thats bullshit for vbox
[22:53] <Ben64> watch the language here
[22:53] <subz3r0> okay
[22:53] <subz3r0> Ben64: sorry, but thats not true for vbox
[22:53] <subz3r0> better?
[22:53] <owen1> i am confused. where do i get the recent vbox?
[22:54] <subz3r0> owen
[22:54] <owen1> subz3r0
[22:54] <subz3r0> what ubuntu do you use?
[22:54] <Ben64> if you want support for it, sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[22:54] <subz3r0> version
[22:54] <owen1> 14.04
[22:54] <subz3r0> okay
[22:54] <subz3r0> gimme a sec
[22:54] <Ben64> if you want to be on your own, do what subz3r0 says
[22:54] <owen1> Ben64: i want the recent vbox
[22:54] <subz3r0> owen1: dont listen to him ;)
[22:54] <pangaea_> is there a channel for dealing with cards ?
[22:54] <Ben64> it true though
[22:54] <Ben64> this channel only supports official packages
[22:55] <subz3r0> owen1: do: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:55] <subz3r0> then add "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian trusty contrib"
[22:55] <subz3r0> wihtout the quotes
[22:55] <owen1> subz3r0: got it. thanks!
[22:55] <subz3r0> at the bottom
[22:55] <subz3r0> wait
[22:55] <subz3r0> save it
[22:56] <owen1> apt-get update
[22:56] <subz3r0> ctrl +x and yes
[22:56] <subz3r0> yep
[22:56] <Ben64> why do all that for 4.3.12 vs 4.3.10
[22:56] <subz3r0> or follow this instruction: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[22:56] <subz3r0> fast and easy
[22:56] <owen1> thanks
[22:57] <subz3r0> you're welcome
[22:58] <pangaea_> cool i have official package from ppa xorg wrappers...etc
[22:58] <pangaea_> no fglxr
[22:58] <AncientPC> If I have a Mac Mini w/ 16GB ram, do I use the Intel or AMD ISO?
[22:59] <pangaea_> does anyone know whats hold my pci-e ram hostage?
[22:59] <Ben64> AncientPC: if its 64bit, get the 64bit version
[22:59] <Ben64> pangaea_: again, you're going to need to explain exactly whats going on much better than you have been
[23:00] <subz3r0> Ben64: just to be hones... even the devs of many projects say that you should "NOT" use the versions within ubuntu
[23:00] <subz3r0> honest
[23:00] <pangaea_> how bro? ok i'll get it and use the paster
[23:00] <Ben64> subz3r0: ok, that doesn't change the fact of what is supported here
[23:00] <Ben64> pangaea_: by using words? i'm not even sure what you're talking about. something about ram and pcie is all i can figure out so far
[23:01] <subz3r0> Ben64: dont you thing you go over the top?
[23:01] <subz3r0> think
[23:01] <pangaea_> i got ya
[23:02] <Ben64> subz3r0: nope, otherwise people will come back here expecting help for outside software because someone told them to use that instead of the version in ubuntu, and it could mess up upgrades and things
[23:02] <darkdrgn2k> any one know how to debug a ubuntu nfsroot boot?
[23:02] <darkdrgn2k> cant scroll uip on the console
[23:02] <pangaea_> Detected VRAM RAM=1024M, BAR=256M
[23:03] <subz3r0> Ben64: maybe you wont give support then. othes recommend adding the repos. it just doesnt matter. if anyone needs help, he'll get his answers here or anywhere else... really waste of time... espewcialla when someone asks for the actual version.
[23:03] <pangaea_> when i open steam it says i only have 256 ram??
[23:03] <nemothek_> How do I upgrade dpkg on ubuntu 10 LTS? Currently at 1.15.5 and I need to get to 1.15.6
[23:04] <nemothek_> apt-get install dpkg sticks me at 1.15.5
[23:04] <subz3r0> nemothek_: server or desktop?
[23:04] <pangaea_> radeon: 1024M of VRAM memory ready radeon: 1024M of GTT memory ready......but only have 256 mb available?...why is that?
[23:04] <Ben64> nemothek_: the latest dpkg for 10.04 is 1.15.5.6ubuntu4.9
[23:04] <nemothek_> server
[23:05] <subz3r0> you wont find it there. maybe check the backports
[23:06] <subz3r0> but i would suggest upgrading soon
[23:06] <subz3r0> to 12.04
[23:06] <subz3r0> 14.04 is stll buggy as hell
[23:06] <subz3r0> :(
[23:07] <subz3r0> never opened that many bugreports for any ubuntu version :/
[23:07] <subz3r0> +before
[23:07] <nemothek_> not in backports either
[23:07] <nemothek_> gah
[23:07] <subz3r0> nemothek_: any reason why you need it?
[23:07] <subz3r0> i dont get the point
[23:08] <cLoCkWiSe> Ben64
[23:08] <cLoCkWiSe> THANK YOU
[23:08] <cLoCkWiSe> ITS WORKING!
[23:08] <nemothek_> Latest version of the cassandra deb requires it
[23:08] <pangaea_> just say you have no idea and i'll try to figure it out
[23:08] <smaudet> Getting really, really weird behavior from my card...PCI INT A disabled...got that once, can't get it to go again
[23:08] <smaudet> gonna try rebooting again
[23:09] <Ben64> pangaea_: dude you keep posting the tiniest bits of information. i'm not a mind reader, i don't think anyone else here is. you need to explain in as much detail as possible what you're doing and what is going wrong
[23:09] <subz3r0> nemothek_: never did it, but seems you have to compile it if you can get the sources. but thats one of those things i never thought about
[23:09] <subz3r0> but i would strongly recommend NOT doing it :)
[23:11] <pangaea_> what else is there to say, i have a pci-e card with 1gb and the kernel only allows me 256mb, is that because it's using shared from my dimm, or do i need to find a way to get the kernel to see my ram on video card, it does't allocate all my ram on my video card bro
[23:11] <Ben64> pangaea_: how do you know it is only allowing 256
[23:12] <pangaea_>  25.948835] [drm] Detected VRAM RAM=1024M, BAR=256M
[23:12] <Ben64> and where is that from
[23:12] <pangaea_> $ lspci -nn | grep VGA
[23:13] <Ben64> paste the whole line from that
[23:13] <pangaea_> also steam won't run right and says only 256mb avail
[23:14] <pangaea_> how do paste that without getting a shh from chat?
[23:15] <Ben64> if it is only one line, you can paste it here, for more, use a pastebin
[23:16] <pangaea_> 25.948835] [drm] Detected VRAM RAM=1024M, BAR=256M
[23:16] <pangaea_> [   25.948837] [drm] RAM width 128bits DDR
[23:16] <pangaea_> [   26.021616] [drm] radeon: 1024M of VRAM memory ready
[23:16] <pangaea_> [   26.021623] [drm] radeon: 1024M of GTT memory ready.
[23:16] <pangaea_> see that ddr!
[23:16] <Ben64> you didn't use a pastebin.... anyway there you go, 1024MB
[23:16] <pangaea_> thats my duimm i think
[23:16] <Ben64> all your rams are belong to you
[23:16] <OerHeks> sounds like onboard video use that ram ?
[23:17] <pangaea_> but it don't steam and a few other graphics won't run they yell out sorry only 256 ram
[23:18] <pangaea_> my internal was set to use 256
[23:18] <Ben64> then you might need steam support, try checking the steam community or try #ubuntu-steam or something
[23:18] <pangaea_> yeah but not just steam
[23:18] <pangaea_> any heavy graphics kills the op sys and freezes
[23:19] <afrokarlsson> hi, give me some shat channel
[23:19] <OerHeks> !alis | afrokarlsson
[23:20] <afrokarlsson> give me some chat channel
[23:22] <pangaea_> ok how do i configure xorg, cause that's what all the advice is, but can't get it open...belongs to root.....EVERYTHING belongs to root....lol
[23:24] <pangaea_> ok well thanks anyway, not upset love my ubun studio over msn, and i know you peeps are freelancing so i'll just mosey on along...thanks
[23:24] <Guest14987> lol
[23:30] <kcdehimposter> Hey I am trying to update my AMD catalyst to the latest version, so I downloaded the latest driver thing, and it says I need to uninstall my fglrx drivers before it can install. What is the best way of going about this? (I'm on 64 bit Ubuntu 14.04
[23:31] <subz3r0> !ATI | kcdehimposter
[23:45] <AndChat|49209> H
[23:46] <arun_> hai
[23:50] <fatazz> No probe
[23:56] <zartoosh> Hi question on ubuntu 14.04, I need to add nomodeset to the linux command line, I do not know which file I need to edit for it? thx
[23:57] <cuddylier> When upgrading my OS version from 12.04 to 14.04, should I also allow grub to update or keep it at the same version?