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joey__sight00:11
joey__no?01:05
joey__alright..01:05
joey__that's ok..01:05
holsteinjoey__: you want to offer what?01:25
holstein!contribute01:26
ubottuTo contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu01:26
joey__but im here01:26
joey__uh01:26
joey__I joined the mailing list uh01:26
joey__and IRC channel01:26
holsteinsure01:26
holsteinand, good on you :)01:26
holsteinjoey__: what are you interested in? you said the website.. have you contacted knome?01:27
joey__no01:27
joey__actually01:34
joey__I was told that knome wasnt the person to contact01:35
holsteinjoey__: ok.. so, who were you told to contact?01:36
joey__um01:36
joey__https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/WebsiteTeam01:36
joey__I'01:36
joey__I'm not sure where to start01:36
holsteinjoey__: who were you told to contact?01:37
joey__um zequence01:38
joey__here.01:38
joey__SonikkuAmerica suggested01:39
holsteinzequence is the team lead.. have you talked to him?01:39
SonikkuAmericaYeah, I suggested he talk to zequence01:39
holsteinwe always need help with documentation..01:40
joey__well01:40
joey__I said "Hi" to him01:40
joey__on irc01:40
joey__ah i see01:40
holsteinjoey__: you can ask him specificallly about contributing to the site. but, i suggest trying to contact knome01:40
joey__he has a website01:40
joey__Why do I not see Knome on the wiki for Ubuntu Studio dev01:40
holsteinjoey__: i would just ask him.. not sure.. maybe he's not part of the team any longer01:41
holsteinjoey__: mabye its a mistake01:41
holsteinregardless, zequence will ultimately be the contact01:41
holsteinjoey__: do you have wordpress experience? 01:42
joey__Well01:42
holsteinjoey__: would you want to do packaging? backporting? documentation?01:42
joey__mmhhh01:42
holsteinjoey__: this is a small team.. we could use help upstream.. for example, if you wanted to get involved in packaging, you would do that in main ubuntu, not really here01:42
joey__I don't have the enough knowledge for packaging and backporting01:43
holsteinjoey__: also, backporting.. you would likely have to go upstream for that too01:43
holsteinanything you do up there basicallly trickles down01:43
joey__enough*01:43
holsteinbut, we have specific needs for studio.. testing iso's is helpful01:43
SonikkuAmericaYes, we always need QA here01:43
holsteinhttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/01:43
SonikkuAmerica(and everywhere for that matter)01:43
holsteinjoey__: ^01:43
holsteinwe have no testing milestone currently.. but you can look there and get an idea01:44
joey__Packaging has to do with ?01:44
joey__getting stuff in .deb01:45
joey__?01:45
joey__ppa and stuff01:45
SonikkuAmericajoey__: Making software installable via the Software Center, Synaptic, apt-get01:45
joey__yeah01:45
holstein!ppa01:45
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge01:45
joey__looks hard01:45
holsteinjoey__: ppas are actually not supported01:45
joey__yeah i know01:45
holsteinjoey__: then, it will not be for ppa's01:45
joey__Sure01:45
holsteinjoey__: well, we are glad you are here, anyways..01:46
joey__But I have to learn make / compiling right ?01:46
SonikkuAmericaMy philosophy is the more packages we make installable without the need for PPAs, the better01:46
joey__I looked into a book by Stallman and I was just lost01:46
joey__I see01:46
joey__One I would love to be available by default is Infinality01:47
SonikkuAmericaI wouldn't read his books...01:47
joey__Lol ?01:47
joey__:D01:47
joey__Why is that ?01:47
holsteinjoey__: getting packages in upstream is the easiest.. into debian01:48
joey__yeah01:48
SonikkuAmericajoey__: RMS tends to be an extremist, is all ... </digression>01:48
joey__Doesn't make him wrong01:49
joey__Sadly01:49
SonikkuAmericaPretty much build package, dump in sid, show up in Ubuntu01:49
joey__But yeah01:49
joey__Extremist I agree01:49
joey__So how do I learn that ?01:51
holsteinthat?01:51
holsteinjoey__: packaging? 01:51
joey__yeah01:51
holsteinhttps://wiki.debian.org/Packaging01:52
joey__oh boy01:53
joey__alright01:53
SonikkuAmericaholstein: Thanks for that btw... Now I know how to build packages for my source code. Does it matter what language the program is written in? Where does it factor into the package building?02:02
SonikkuAmerica(I'm a packaging noob myself)02:02
joey__Ok02:07
joey__So I contact zequence for the website?02:07
joey__helloo?02:22
Noskcajjoey__, yeah, contact zequence for website stuff02:26
Noskcajand ping me if you have any packaging questions02:26
joey__Oh hi!02:26
joey__Alright02:26
joey_mhhh04:04
Noskcajjoey_, Use a tool like dh-make to make skeleton packaging files, then fill in the various details04:10
Noskcaj(reply from earlier)04:10
joey_thanks and goodnight !04:15
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joey__hi20:37
SonikkuAmericaOh look who's back. :D20:39
OvenWerkszequence: I have been doing some nore reading on RT and the linux kernel. http://lwn.net/Articles/572740/ Was quite interesting, but seems to missing some of the perspective.23:50
OvenWerksIt says the RT patch will be finished one way or the other this year. Either the whole thing will be added to the mainline kernel or what is already in tyhe mainline will be deemed "good enough".23:51
OvenWerksWhile this seesm like the end of Full RT as a patch... http://embeddedenea.com/2014/03/17/speculations-on-real-time-linux-future/ adds a little perspective23:53
OvenWerksIt basically says that Computer Hardware has changed the way RT can be achieved in such a way that the RT patch is becoming obsolete anyway.23:54
OvenWerksThe big change being multi-core systems and the ability to do RT virualization on a group of cores that have been removed from the Kernel's scheduler.23:56

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