[00:11] <joey__> sight
[01:05] <joey__> no?
[01:05] <joey__> alright..
[01:05] <joey__> that's ok..
[01:25] <holstein> joey__: you want to offer what?
[01:26] <holstein> !contribute
[01:26] <ubottu> To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[01:26] <joey__> but im here
[01:26] <joey__> uh
[01:26] <joey__> I joined the mailing list uh
[01:26] <joey__> and IRC channel
[01:26] <holstein> sure
[01:26] <holstein> and, good on you :)
[01:27] <holstein> joey__: what are you interested in? you said the website.. have you contacted knome?
[01:27] <joey__> no
[01:34] <joey__> actually
[01:35] <joey__> I was told that knome wasnt the person to contact
[01:36] <holstein> joey__: ok.. so, who were you told to contact?
[01:36] <joey__> um
[01:36] <joey__> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/WebsiteTeam
[01:36] <joey__> I'
[01:36] <joey__> I'm not sure where to start
[01:37] <holstein> joey__: who were you told to contact?
[01:38] <joey__> um zequence
[01:38] <joey__> here.
[01:39] <joey__> SonikkuAmerica suggested
[01:39] <holstein> zequence is the team lead.. have you talked to him?
[01:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah, I suggested he talk to zequence
[01:40] <holstein> we always need help with documentation..
[01:40] <joey__> well
[01:40] <joey__> I said "Hi" to him
[01:40] <joey__> on irc
[01:40] <joey__> ah i see
[01:40] <holstein> joey__: you can ask him specificallly about contributing to the site. but, i suggest trying to contact knome
[01:40] <joey__> he has a website
[01:40] <joey__> Why do I not see Knome on the wiki for Ubuntu Studio dev
[01:41] <holstein> joey__: i would just ask him.. not sure.. maybe he's not part of the team any longer
[01:41] <holstein> joey__: mabye its a mistake
[01:41] <holstein> regardless, zequence will ultimately be the contact
[01:42] <holstein> joey__: do you have wordpress experience? 
[01:42] <joey__> Well
[01:42] <holstein> joey__: would you want to do packaging? backporting? documentation?
[01:42] <joey__> mmhhh
[01:42] <holstein> joey__: this is a small team.. we could use help upstream.. for example, if you wanted to get involved in packaging, you would do that in main ubuntu, not really here
[01:43] <joey__> I don't have the enough knowledge for packaging and backporting
[01:43] <holstein> joey__: also, backporting.. you would likely have to go upstream for that too
[01:43] <holstein> anything you do up there basicallly trickles down
[01:43] <joey__> enough*
[01:43] <holstein> but, we have specific needs for studio.. testing iso's is helpful
[01:43] <SonikkuAmerica> Yes, we always need QA here
[01:43] <holstein> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[01:43] <SonikkuAmerica> (and everywhere for that matter)
[01:43] <holstein> joey__: ^
[01:44] <holstein> we have no testing milestone currently.. but you can look there and get an idea
[01:44] <joey__> Packaging has to do with ?
[01:45] <joey__> getting stuff in .deb
[01:45] <joey__> ?
[01:45] <joey__> ppa and stuff
[01:45] <SonikkuAmerica> joey__: Making software installable via the Software Center, Synaptic, apt-get
[01:45] <joey__> yeah
[01:45] <holstein> !ppa
[01:45] <ubottu> A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge
[01:45] <joey__> looks hard
[01:45] <holstein> joey__: ppas are actually not supported
[01:45] <joey__> yeah i know
[01:45] <holstein> joey__: then, it will not be for ppa's
[01:45] <joey__> Sure
[01:46] <holstein> joey__: well, we are glad you are here, anyways..
[01:46] <joey__> But I have to learn make / compiling right ?
[01:46] <SonikkuAmerica> My philosophy is the more packages we make installable without the need for PPAs, the better
[01:46] <joey__> I looked into a book by Stallman and I was just lost
[01:46] <joey__> I see
[01:47] <joey__> One I would love to be available by default is Infinality
[01:47] <SonikkuAmerica> I wouldn't read his books...
[01:47] <joey__> Lol ?
[01:47] <joey__> :D
[01:47] <joey__> Why is that ?
[01:48] <holstein> joey__: getting packages in upstream is the easiest.. into debian
[01:48] <joey__> yeah
[01:48] <SonikkuAmerica> joey__: RMS tends to be an extremist, is all ... </digression>
[01:49] <joey__> Doesn't make him wrong
[01:49] <joey__> Sadly
[01:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Pretty much build package, dump in sid, show up in Ubuntu
[01:49] <joey__> But yeah
[01:49] <joey__> Extremist I agree
[01:51] <joey__> So how do I learn that ?
[01:51] <holstein> that?
[01:51] <holstein> joey__: packaging? 
[01:51] <joey__> yeah
[01:52] <holstein> https://wiki.debian.org/Packaging
[01:53] <joey__> oh boy
[01:53] <joey__> alright
[02:02] <SonikkuAmerica> holstein: Thanks for that btw... Now I know how to build packages for my source code. Does it matter what language the program is written in? Where does it factor into the package building?
[02:02] <SonikkuAmerica> (I'm a packaging noob myself)
[02:07] <joey__> Ok
[02:07] <joey__> So I contact zequence for the website?
[02:22] <joey__> helloo?
[02:26] <Noskcaj> joey__, yeah, contact zequence for website stuff
[02:26] <Noskcaj> and ping me if you have any packaging questions
[02:26] <joey__> Oh hi!
[02:26] <joey__> Alright
[04:04] <joey_> mhhh
[04:10] <Noskcaj> joey_, Use a tool like dh-make to make skeleton packaging files, then fill in the various details
[04:10] <Noskcaj> (reply from earlier)
[04:15] <joey_> thanks and goodnight !
=== aleb_ is now known as aleb
[20:37] <joey__> hi
[20:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh look who's back. :D
[23:50] <OvenWerks> zequence: I have been doing some nore reading on RT and the linux kernel. http://lwn.net/Articles/572740/ Was quite interesting, but seems to missing some of the perspective.
[23:51] <OvenWerks> It says the RT patch will be finished one way or the other this year. Either the whole thing will be added to the mainline kernel or what is already in tyhe mainline will be deemed "good enough".
[23:53] <OvenWerks> While this seesm like the end of Full RT as a patch... http://embeddedenea.com/2014/03/17/speculations-on-real-time-linux-future/ adds a little perspective
[23:54] <OvenWerks> It basically says that Computer Hardware has changed the way RT can be achieved in such a way that the RT patch is becoming obsolete anyway.
[23:56] <OvenWerks> The big change being multi-core systems and the ability to do RT virualization on a group of cores that have been removed from the Kernel's scheduler.