[00:11] <Guest40109> hello everyone having an issue with apt-get update on xubuntu 14.04
[00:12] <Guest40109> anyone have an idea how to "restore" the daemon?
[00:15] <ObrienDave> what is it doing?
[00:17] <Guest40109> when trying to run update it errors out and gives the message that it is possible the daemon as quit. when i try to run apt-get it does nothing but cycle back to the prompt
[00:17] <Guest40109> trying to get a copy of the message right now to post.
[00:18] <ObrienDave> ok, pastebin it please
[00:25] <Guest40109> well now it will not error at all it just acts like it is not even recognizing anything. I tried apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean and it does nothing,
[00:29] <ObrienDave> ok, just a sec
[00:30] <ObrienDave> you have synaptec installed?
[00:31] <ObrienDave> synaptic*
[00:31] <Guest40109> no i do not have synaptic installed
[00:31] <ObrienDave> install it from software center, please
[00:32] <Guest40109> software center will not open
[00:32] <Guest40109> it opens and then immedeatly closes
[00:32] <ObrienDave> umm, wow
[00:32] <bluesabre> apt-get -f install
[00:32] <bluesabre> ?
[00:33] <ObrienDave> yea, try that command
[00:37] <ObrienDave> any luck?
[00:38] <Guest40109> no it does nothing
[00:39] <Guest40109> it just returns to the prompt
[00:42] <ObrienDave> do you have Gdebi installed?
[00:42] <Guest40109> no i do not
[00:43] <ObrienDave> what is the last thing you used to install anything?
[00:44] <Guest40109> the software updater
[00:46] <bluesabre> ls -lrt /var/cache/apt/archives
[00:46] <bluesabre> the bottom most items are most recently installed
[00:46] <bluesabre> anything apt or dpkg
[00:46] <ObrienDave> ok, i found dpkg works with .deb
[00:49] <Guest40109> http://pastebin.com/8swgENDT
[00:49] <Guest40109> that is what it comes up with
[00:52] <Unit193> Guest40109: How much disk space do you have?  Can you pastebin the error you were getting before?
[00:53] <Guest40109> i get no error it just cycles through
[00:54] <Unit193> "Cycles through", downloads the lists?
[00:54] <Guest40109> o
[00:54] <Guest40109> no
[00:54] <Guest40109> does nothing but returns to prompt
[00:55] <Unit193> And what does  apt-get -v  return?
[00:57] <Guest40109> this is what it returns :http://pastebin.com/zrk5qdN8
[00:58] <Unit193> OK, that's good.  Now,  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[00:58] <Unit193> Also, I presume you don't have any proxy, or apt-cacher?
[00:59] <Guest40109> i get nothing when i run that last command
[01:00] <ObrienDave> i get nothing also
[01:02] <Unit193> ObrienDave: If upgrade has been halted and there are unconfigured packages, that will configure them. (--configure, -a = all.  Not the same as --reconfigure)
[01:02] <ObrienDave> gotcha
[01:03] <Guest40109> i still can not run update
[01:04] <Unit193> You could try clearing out the lists, but there's not a lot of information for me to go on.
[01:04] <ObrienDave> what happens with "sudo apt-get update"?
[01:04] <Guest40109> it just cycles back to the prompt
[01:06] <Guest40109> how do i clear the lists?
[01:07] <Unit193> The files in /var/lib/apt/lists/, it's what apt-get update  downloads.
[01:07] <Guest40109> ok so can i just go to that file folder and clean them out?
[01:08] <Unit193> Guest40109: Also, can you pastebin the output of  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  ?
[01:08] <Guest40109> ok
[01:11] <Guest40109> i get nothing when i run the last command
[01:11] <ObrienDave> straight back to prompt?
[01:11] <Guest40109> yes
[01:17] <Guest40109> is there a way to restart the apt-get node?
[01:19] <Unit193> 'apt-get' is a command, not a daemon.
[01:19] <Guest40109> hmm well it tells me that the daemon has died
[01:19] <Guest40109> when i run software updater
[01:19] <ObrienDave> i was thinking of trying to reinstall apt
[01:20] <ObrienDave> but without synaptic, Gdebi or software center, i can't figure it out
[01:21] <Guest40109> yea i have software center but it will not open it just immediately closes
[01:22] <Unit193> Check .cache/upstart/startxfce4.log for that error
[01:23] <ObrienDave> that's what i mean, none of those are working at the moment :)
[01:28] <Guest40109> here is the post from startxfce4.log :http://pastebin.com/RndU4rSr
[01:30] <Unit193> 2014-06-19 20:42:11,956 - softwarecenter.backend.reviews - WARNING - error creating bsddb: '(22, 'Invalid argument -- BDB0054 illegal flag combination specified to DB_ENV->open')' (corrupted?)
[01:30] <Unit193> 2014-06-19 20:42:11,957 - softwarecenter.backend.reviews - ERROR - trying to repair DB failed
[01:32] <Guest40109> how do i clear those out?
[01:34] <ObrienDave> i have no idea
[01:43] <Guest40109> 8o;;
[01:43] <Guest40109> ]
[01:43] <Guest40109> i have tried to run apt-get clean and autoclean and it will not take care of it
[01:49] <MisterAcacia_> Don't know if this will work, but have you tried apt-get install -f ?
[01:50] <ObrienDave> sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove
[02:07] <Guest40109> tried all of those and nothing
[02:11] <ObrienDave> i'm out of ideas
[02:14] <Guest40109> its ok i will keep digging into the forums to see what i can find everything points to an issue that happened in 13 but not in 14
[02:14] <Guest40109> thanks for everyones help i am a windows user gone linux
[02:15] <Guest40109> so trying to get a grasp of the terminology and setup on the linux systems
[02:15] <ObrienDave> it just sounds to me like the package DB is corrupted. i have no idea how to fix it
[02:15] <Guest40109> is there a way to stop the package and remove it?
[02:15] <ObrienDave> and i'm an ex-windows user also ;)
[02:16] <Guest40109> 8 did me in i am done with htem
[02:16] <ObrienDave> we hear that a lot
[02:16] <SirLagz> I'd had it with Windows since XP lol
[02:17] <Guest40109> naw i loved XP an even 7 just 8 is for phones not desktops or laptops
[02:17] <SirLagz> XP had it's own set of issues
[02:18] <SirLagz> just like 7 did
[02:18] <ObrienDave> if it was not for 2 programs that i must use windows for, i don't even run it anymore
[02:18] <SirLagz> though both had the 'ohmigawd somethings changed, reactivate again' when nothing's changed
[02:19] <Guest40109> one of the things i am impressed with ubuntu and xubuntu is the ability to just work
[02:19] <Guest40109> even with this issue i can still run programs and do things where with windows it would have been  a "fatal error"
[02:19] <ObrienDave> oh, and when my external HD goes wonky i use chkdsk
[04:41] <akis> hi all. when in July exactly it will be availab le for upgrade 14.04.1 through Canonical for 12.04 users?
[04:44] <akis> hi all. when in July exactly it will be available for upgrade 14.04.1 through Canonical for 12.04 users?
[04:46] <baizon> akis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[04:48] <akis> baizon: ok, thanks.
[05:04] <SamwiseGamgee> I´m in the xubuntu documentation website, http://docs.xubuntu.org/1404/, where do I find information on the installation process?  Which chapter is it?
[05:05] <SamwiseGamgee> I have been looking for it on that website, and I cannot find it
[05:43] <SamwiseGamgee> Will the CD automatically be bootable if I just burn the ISO onto it?
[05:43] <SirLagz> yes
[05:44] <SamwiseGamgee> What about the USB stick?
[05:44] <SamwiseGamgee> hOW DO i make that bootable?
[05:44] <SirLagz> SamwiseGamgee: i believe you can use the same way. 'burn' the iso onto the USB stick
[05:44] <ObrienDave> use unetbootin
[05:45] <SamwiseGamgee> teeist
[05:45] <baizon> or linuxliveusb
[05:45] <SamwiseGamgee> I have another program that makes usb sticks bootable....
[05:45] <SamwiseGamgee> never tried it before, its on Windows XP
[05:46] <ObrienDave> or tuxboot
[05:46] <SirLagz> or yumi
[05:46] <SirLagz> there's a whole host of utilities out there
[05:46] <SamwiseGamgee> Rufus
[05:46] <SamwiseGamgee> Iḿ looking for it now
[05:46] <SamwiseGamgee> I tbhink itśś on my jump drive
[05:51] <SamwiseGamgee> that´s weird, I lost the instructions for rufus
[05:51] <SamwiseGamgee> I printed them out and can´t find it
[05:51] <SamwiseGamgee> I found it
[05:54] <SamwiseGamgee> which file system should I use when I create the bootable USB stick to install xubuntu?
[05:55] <ObrienDave> fat32
[05:56] <SamwiseGamgee> ok
[05:59] <SamwiseGamgee> After I created the bootable USB flash drive, and used it to install xubuntu with rufus, can I just format the USB flash drive to use it for other data later on?
[05:59] <SamwiseGamgee> I can keep the bootable ISO on a DVD permanently for backup, instead of my USB stick
[06:00] <SamwiseGamgee> right?
[06:01] <ObrienDave> yes
[06:02] <ObrienDave> you just cant save anything to the DVD whereas you can add to the USB using 'persistance'
[06:07] <SamwiseGamgee> If the USB stick is for installation I don´t think I can add anything to it
[09:00] <kostex> "lvremove  snapshot"    is the way to go if I LIKE the changes to my system, am I right? Today a tutorial (http://www.tutonics.com/2012/12/lvm-guide-part-2-snapshots.html) said it should be LVMERGE.. that can't be right?
[09:52] <j0nes> Hey
[09:53] <j0nes> Since I updated to 14.04 my computer just goes to black screen after sleep mode when I try to login.
[09:53] <j0nes> Any solution for this problem yet?
[09:54] <j0nes> The same happens to a netbook I installed 14.04.
[09:54] <ObrienDave> need to add nomodeset to grub entry
[09:55] <j0nes> ObrienDave: Do you have a guide for that?
[09:55] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | j0nes
[09:55] <j0nes> Im new to linux so I need guide for simple things :D
[09:56] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, to the rescue! lol
[09:56] <j0nes> cfhowlett: thanks!
[09:56] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave 'tis all in the wrist!  happy2help
[09:56] <baizon> ObrienDave: this is the wrong solution
[09:56] <ObrienDave> oops
[09:57] <baizon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1303736
[09:57] <j0nes> im switching from windows 7 to xubuntu :)
[10:17] <jasalt> j0nes, I had that black screen thing too. Switch to xscreensaver worked for me.
[10:25] <baizon> jasalt: or install the update/bugfix :)
[11:19] <xubuntu415> xhello!
[11:20] <xubuntu415> does anybody know if the light locker problem has been fixed ? maybe in the latest updates that my xubuntu has been receiving ? I cannot seem to find a detailed description of the updates, nor the light locker bug tracker
[11:20] <xubuntu415> thank you
[11:24] <baizon> xubuntu415: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1303736
[11:25] <xubuntu415> thank you but, oh... it says undecided and new, but it was certainly not undecided or new a few days ago , hmmm
[11:26] <xubuntu415> ah no I see there is two, one high and with a fix let's see
[11:44] <xubuntu415> so we are basically waiting for the backport
[11:50] <xubuntu781> re
[12:09] <xubuntu415> Ok, hello, when I play videos off youtube FULLSCREEN, the battery seems to run from 30% to 0% in a minute
[12:10] <xubuntu415> aka fullscreen (flash?) videos eat my battery
[12:10] <xubuntu415> this is an HP
[12:10] <xubuntu415> HP Compaq nc6320 on latest stable Xubuntu
[12:17] <deshipu> that's normal
[12:17] <deshipu> flash player uses a lot of cpu, especially in fullscreen
[12:18] <xubuntu415> but it does not happen under windows on the same pc
[12:19] <deshipu> well, the flash for windows has a little bit more fixes
[12:20] <xubuntu415> but don't you think that 30% of battery in 1 minute just by watching fullscreen videos is a bit exaggerated ?
[12:21] <xubuntu415> I mean, deshipu, can you reproduce this ?
[12:21] <xubuntu415> or you do not use flash ?
[12:24] <xubuntu415> Is there any way to monitor the usage of battery by different applications  ?
[12:24] <xubuntu415> this way I could at least confirm flash is eating it or ...
[12:42] <xubuntu832> moro
[12:44] <xubuntu832> En saa vaihdettua näytön resoluutiota Linux xubuntu viimeisin versio. Onko jollain koodinpätkää jolla saisi vaihdettua reson paremmaksi, nyt on 800x600.
[12:47] <sveta> xubuntu832, Puhutko Englantia please?
[12:48] <sveta> --> #ubuntu-fi :)
[12:49] <brainwash> xubuntu415: try the html5 player instead, youtube.com/html5
[12:57] <xubuntu832> i want to change the resolution but i cant. It is now 640x480. How can i change it?
[12:59] <xubuntu832> Can someone give me some kind off code that i can change the resolution off my display?
[13:01] <well_laid_lawn> !randr
[13:01] <well_laid_lawn> xubuntu832:  have a look at xrandr in the terminal
[13:02] <well_laid_lawn> it will let you know the sizes you can use
[13:04] <xubuntu832> maximum 640 x 480
[13:04] <xubuntu832> but why?
[13:04] <xubuntu832> I have a old laptop? esprimo v5515 fujitsu.
[13:05] <cfhowlett> xubuntu415 lubuntu is optimized for old hardware.  xubuntu usually works, but consider installing the lubuntu metapackage
[13:05] <xubuntu832> I just wanna give him a new life. I need get change that resolution :D
[13:07] <xubuntu832> anyway. can i change the resolution?
[13:07] <xubuntu415> cfhowlett I am going to attempt live debian xfce for starters, as I am wondering if the exxagerated usage of battery that I experience under xubuntu on fullscreen flash  is normal as some suggest, which I doubt
[13:08] <xubuntu832> does anyone have some for that resolution problem?
[13:08] <koegs> (fullscreen) flash is a cpu hogger
[13:08] <xubuntu832> Some code maybe?
[13:09] <xubuntu415> koegs, yes ok but I don't get a 30% of battery aten in 1 minute under, say, crunchbang debian
[13:10] <xubuntu415> xubuntu832 have you already tried the frigging appropiate settings menu for the matter you are asking about ?
[13:10] <koegs> hm, that's strange, but i dont think that even xubuntu can drain 30% of your battery in one minute :)
[13:10] <xubuntu415> koegs, well it does
[13:10] <koegs> how did you check?
[13:10] <cfhowlett> xubuntu415 that sounds more like a failing battery
[13:11] <xubuntu415> cfhowlett in that case it would do the same under windows ;)
[13:11] <xubuntu415> koegs I unplug the AC cord, I have 30% battery (it says) I watch some fullscreen video and very soon It wants to go sleep
[13:12] <xubuntu415> I have it so it lets me know when this happens, then I exit fullscreen and I can see batt indicator on 0,5%
[13:12] <xubuntu415> does not happen under windows on same machine
[13:12] <xubuntu415> does not happen when not fullscreen video
[13:13] <xubuntu832> there is only option: 640x480
[13:13] <xubuntu832> i cant change it bigger.
[13:13] <xubuntu415> I am downloading xcfe debian live to see if it works well there, because if it does, then it is a xubuntu thing I'd say
[13:14] <xubuntu415> xubuntu832 I assume you tried other OS with this computer and they allowed you to change resolution is this correct ?
[13:14] <koegs> xubuntu832: could you please nopaste the output of this command? "lspci -nnk | grep -i VGA -A2 "
[13:16] <xubuntu832> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter [1039:6351] (rev 10) 	Subsystem: Fujitsu Technology Solutions Device [1734:1110] 02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Qualcomm Atheros AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) [168c:001c] (rev 01)
[13:19] <koegs> xubuntu832: the SIS VGA chip is the problem
[13:19] <koegs> maybe staying with 12.04 and this helps: http://ajoliveira.com/ajoliveira/uk/software/xorg.php
[13:41] <xubuntu781> any hint on how to have a system-wide new menu directory and some app-launcher inside (14.04) already played with /etc/xfd/menu files and /usr/share/applications and desktop-menu, with NO LUCK any ideas ?
[15:16] <Pwnna> Can anyone confirm this bug for me? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/blueman/+bug/1304599
[19:22] <daviator> i have a little trouble with ubuntu distros
[19:22] <daviator> in one moment my screen becomes white or black without any error
[19:22] <daviator> wtf?
[19:22] <daviator> 0_o
[19:23] <holstein> !unetbootin
[19:23] <holstein> though, it can be an issue with the graphics device support
[19:23] <skribblezatcha1> with ALL ubuntu based distros that you have tried using so far daviator?
[19:24] <daviator> it was xubuntu 12.04, then i upgraded ir to 14.04, then degrated it to 12.04
[19:25] <daviator> there are no sounds, some troubles with network :(
[19:25] <daviator> is it  bad luck?
[19:26] <holstein> daviator: luck is not the factor.. its hardware supportm or configuration
[19:26] <skribblezatcha> why did you move back to 12.04 and not stay with 14.04?
[19:26] <holstein> daviator: i say, install 14.04, and troubleshoot.. start with the graphics.. then the audio.. test the hard ware if possible in supported operating systems to make sure its not broken
[19:27] <skribblezatcha> ^
[19:28] <holstein> i see no good reason to use 1204 over 14.04 unless there is just some specific kernel module that only supports 12.04's kernel that is a deal breaker..
[19:29] <daviator> i degraged it because i have some problems with main apps like network mng, and other ones that i cant remember so i decided to move it down.
[19:29] <holstein> daviator: you should upgrade, then, and get more specific about support.. run 14.04
[19:30] <skribblezatcha> do those things work when running 12.04 though daviator?
[19:30] <daviator> yeap
[19:30] <skribblezatcha> ok cool.
[19:30] <daviator> after degrade it has some other defects
[19:31] <daviator> like screen white and no audio
[19:31] <holstein> daviator: i say, choose 14.04, and deal with them specificially..  12.04 support is nearer EOL for desktop
[19:31] <holstein> daviator: the audio and screen *can* be failing hardware..
[19:31] <skribblezatcha> well then if things are working for you when using 12.04 thats a good thing. i have another suggestion for you daviator. you may also want to check out debian..and give it a try.
[19:32] <daviator> what advantages have debian?
[19:32] <daviator> then ubuntu ofcourse
[19:33] <holstein> daviator: the hardware support should be quite similar.. failing hardware will fail with either..
[19:35] <daviator> about hardware.. its works properly. i played World Of Tanks on it :)
[19:35] <daviator> on windows
[19:35] <daviator> but on linux i have such probs
[19:36] <holstein> daviator: and you may.. no one has guaranteed you otherwise.. you are not promised linux support
[19:36] <holstein> daviator: have you tried looking for and installing a proprietary graphics driver? are you running 14.04?
[19:38] <skribblezatcha> it very well could be a driver issue.
[19:38] <skribblezatcha> graphics*
[19:38] <daviator> i wasnt looking for drivers directly form the hardware company site. i look for in Aditional Drivers in Main menu
[19:38] <skribblezatcha> daviator: do you have inxi installed?
[19:38] <daviator> what about sound. is it driver fail to?
[19:39] <daviator> what is inxi?
[19:39] <skribblezatcha> run this daviator: sudo apt-get install inxi
[19:39] <skribblezatcha> wait,  you are using 12.04 right now huh?
[19:40] <daviator> yoop
[19:40] <daviator> http://askubuntu.com/questions/284635/inxi-installation-on-ubuntu :)
[19:40] <skribblezatcha> ok, i dont know if inxi is in 12.04 repo's yet.
[19:40] <daviator> i found how to solve that trouble
[19:40] <skribblezatcha> but i can get you right to a .deb for it and you can install the .deb daviator, let me get you a link.
[19:41] <Unit193> skribblezatcha: It's in the repos starting with Trusty.
[19:42] <skribblezatcha> http://packages.linuxmint.com/pool/import/i/inxi/inxi_1.7.33-1_all.deb here you go daviator.
[19:42] <skribblezatcha> once you install that daviator..run sudo inxi -U to update inxi..and tell me when you have done that please.
[19:42] <daviator> okey
[19:42] <skribblezatcha> thats what i thought Unit193..although i thought that it started with saucy.
[19:43] <skribblezatcha> thanks daviator.
[19:53] <daviator> i have done it
[19:54] <skribblezatcha> ok cool daviator, and have you run sudo inxi -U
[19:54] <daviator> skribblezatcha, yes
[19:54] <skribblezatcha> ok cool, run sudo inxi -U once more to update your manpages too daviator, and tell me when thats done please.
[19:55] <daviator> ok
[19:55] <daviator> skribblezatcha, done
[19:56] <skribblezatcha> ok cool, now here in this channel daviator run this command: /exec -o inxi -Gx
[19:56] <daviator> Graphics:  Card Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID 00:02.0
[19:56] <daviator>            Display Server X.Org 1.11.3 drivers intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution 1280x800@60.0hz
[19:56] <daviator>            GLX Renderer Mesa DRI Mobile Intel GM45 Express x86/MMX/SSE2
[19:56] <daviator>            GLX Version 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4 Direct Rendering Yes
[19:59] <daviator> do i have to reboot?
[19:59] <skribblezatcha> daviator: in synaptic enter: xserver-xorg-video-intel and tell me if you have that installed please.
[20:00] <daviator> ok
[20:00] <skribblezatcha> i am sure that you do..but i just want to see.
[20:00] <skribblezatcha> thanks.
[20:02] <daviator> yes it is installed
[20:02] <skribblezatcha> ok thanks.
[20:03] <daviator> thanks to you :)
[20:03] <daviator> and what about audio
[20:03] <daviator> i cant listen to music
[20:04] <skribblezatcha> audio doesnt work when using 12.04 either?
[20:04] <daviator> yoop
[20:04] <skribblezatcha> it does or doesnt, sorry daviator?
[20:04] <daviator> doesnt
[20:04] <skribblezatcha> ok thanks.
[20:05] <skribblezatcha> ok, go to your volume icon and right click on it and then go to run audio mixer and tell me when you are there please.
[20:05] <daviator> why after degrading i cant hear sounds?
[20:06] <skribblezatcha> i dont know daviator..thats what we are going to try and figure out. :)
[20:06] <daviator> i have no volume icon :)
[20:06] <daviator> but some how i execute mixer in terminal
[20:07] <daviator> like audiopulse or mixer
[20:07] <skribblezatcha> ok, cool. right click on your panel and go to panel, add items. when the window pops up go to audio mixer and hit add daviator.
[20:07] <daviator> yes sir
[20:08] <daviator> there is no item like audio mixer
[20:09] <skribblezatcha> ok daviator, in terminal run this command: sudo apt-get install xfce4-goodies
[20:09] <skribblezatcha> tell me when that is installed please.
[20:12] <daviator> done, sir
[20:12] <skribblezatcha> ok great, brb daviator, in like a minute man. one sec.
[20:15] <skribblezatcha> ok back, thanks.
[20:15] <daviator> :)
[20:16] <skribblezatcha> ok, now that you have that installed daviator. right click on your panel and go to panel, add new items, and find the audio mixer click on it and then go to add..and tell me when you have done that please. :)
[20:17] <daviator> there is no such item
[20:17] <skribblezatcha> there has to be daviator.
[20:17] <daviator> i was looking for that after installation
[20:17] <skribblezatcha> is there anything sound related there daviator?
[20:17] <daviator> nope
[20:18] <daviator> this situation makes my smiling :D
[20:18] <skribblezatcha> lol
[20:18] <skribblezatcha> ok run this command daviator, sudo apt-get install xfce4-mixer
[20:19] <daviator> i found it!
[20:20] <skribblezatcha> nice..go ahead and install that to your panel and tell me when you have done that please daviator. :D
[20:21] <daviator> it woks!! a can hear sounds :)
[20:21] <skribblezatcha> ok great daviator..well then you are now good to go. lol  YAY!! lol
[20:21] <daviator> thanks alot!!!!!!!!
[20:22] <skribblezatcha> you are very welcome daviator..i am glad that you got it working.
[20:23] <daviator> as you helped me i must to help you some how
[20:23] <daviator> what can i do for you?
[20:24] <daviator> i have some knoledge in developing, maybe i can help you like that?
[20:24] <skribblezatcha> nothing daviator, i am good to go friend so no worries. i am going to enjoy this cup of coffee and chat a bit..and watch a good documentary or something while doing so. :)
[20:25] <skribblezatcha> no i cant code or anything daviator. i am blessed to be able to use my laptop. i didnt even know that the internet existed until 2004. i was 24 yrs old when i discovered the internet existed and was actually real and not just a rumor or something to come in the future.
[20:26] <daviator> you maybe study a lot
[20:27] <daviator> and have no time to look after such things like internet
[20:27] <skribblezatcha> then in december of 2012 yahoo chatrooms closed daviator, and i ended up looking for new places to chat..and found irc. a female on freenode told me about linux and i said 'yeah right, i am content with windows 7'. she said i think that you would like it from how you talk..and directed me to another channel on a different network.
[20:27] <skribblezatcha> i hung out on that channel for a few wks while using windows, being made fun of..but accepted as part of the group. lol
[20:28] <skribblezatcha> then i decided to give linux a try and to dual boot with windows and accidentally erased windows as well as my recovery partition from the laptop. i was stuck with linux. then i learned how to get windows 7 back and installed it and booted it to be sure..and then put linux back on it. i havent looked back since. :)
[20:29] <daviator> its a great chance to be a part of a big team where you can talk with profesionals
[20:29] <daviator> though i have dual boot with windows to
[20:30] <skribblezatcha> well during that time daviator, i did other things. i didnt see the computer as anything of interest. my idea of fun was being outside..riding my pedal bike..running through the woods..things like that..and at home i didnt have a computer to mess around on..only at school..and even then i tended to stay away from them as much as possible..i preferred to use a pencil and paper to write my papers..etc.
[20:31] <skribblezatcha> i agree, well now that i use a computer a bit more often and have learned a few things daviator, i do see how the internet is a valuable tool..as far as information at the fingertips as well as being able to network with others within the same field as you that you otherwise wouldnt be able to communicate with..or build relationships with.
[20:32] <skribblezatcha> ok cool..yeah i decided that i didnt need windows anymore. i am actually using debian sid daviator.
[20:32] <ANTHRATRAX> the installation process wont go past "configuring bcmwl-kernel-source (i386)" what do you guys think i should do?
[20:33] <skribblezatcha> are you sure that you are able to boot a pae kernel ANTHRATRAX?
[20:33] <daviator> i have to have dual boot, skribblezatcha, because i developing under windows
[20:33] <daviator> on C#
[20:33] <skribblezatcha> ok i see daviator..nice.
[20:33] <ANTHRATRAX> excuse my no00bness, but i have no clue what that is
[20:34] <skribblezatcha> yeah, since i am just a home user daviator, i am good to go with using linux on the daily.
[20:34] <daviator> me to :)
[20:34] <skribblezatcha> ok, well let me ask you this ANTHRATRAX, how old is your system if you dont mind me asking?
[20:34] <daviator> i can see too, skribblezatcha, that ubuntu is more powerful then windows
[20:35] <ANTHRATRAX> it's an old vbrMatrix... it's from the ( i wanna say ) early 2000's. it came stock with xp so it must have been after that released
[20:35] <skribblezatcha> i agree, in many ways linux is way more powerful..or atleast gives the user way more freedom to control what happens within the system than windows does.
[20:35] <ANTHRATRAX> it has a pentium 4 processor @ 2.53ghz with a gig of ram
[20:35] <daviator> but i like to develop different apps under windows, skribblezatcha, but i cant understand why :)
[20:36] <skribblezatcha> ok thanks ANTHRATRAX. it very well may not allow for a pae kernel to be installed on it ANTHRATRAX. there are ways to force a pae kernel to be loaded on a system..but no guarantee that it will still work. what are you using right now if you dont mind me asking..do you happen to have an older version of xubuntu installed?
[20:37] <skribblezatcha> well i guess thats your niche daviator. some prefer to develop under linux and others like to develop under windows.
[20:38] <ANTHRATRAX> i was using microknoppix then i switched to luninuxos for like a day and i got tired of it because i couldnt figure out how to extend the desktop without the screen looking corrupted.
[20:38] <ANTHRATRAX> but to answer your question luninos
[20:38] <skribblezatcha> i went with debian because i get all of the benefits of ubuntu without some of the things that i dont agree with concerning ubuntu. even the meaning of the name 'ubuntu' has deeper implications and meanings than most know about..so i decided to use debian.
[20:39] <ANTHRATRAX> well that was my first try after microknoppix
[20:39] <ANTHRATRAX> it wouldnt install
[20:39] <koegs> is this #xubuntu-offtopic now? :)
[20:39] <skribblezatcha> ok thanks ANTHRATRAX..and is it an independent distro or is based on something?
[20:39] <skribblezatcha> sorry koegs.
[20:39] <ANTHRATRAX> it's based on ubuntu
[20:40] <skribblezatcha> ok thanks, what version of ubuntu is it based on ANTHRATRAX..if you dont mind me asking?
[20:40] <daviator> now i working at university as system administrator, and at that stage when i get that job, skribblezatcha, all computers in university must be with linux os, and i have to learn more about linux `cause i have to administrate them, so this is my first exp with linux administation
[20:40] <ANTHRATRAX> i think it was based off of (and i could be wrong) 13.04 or something like that
[20:41] <skribblezatcha> ok cool daviator. well thats a good thing really. it gives you a chance to 'spread your wings' and to be comfortable no matter what kind of OS you are using.
[20:42] <elfy> ANTHRATRAX: open a terminal and then run grep pae /proc/cpuinfo
[20:42] <elfy> see if pae is shown
[20:42] <skribblezatcha> ok ANTHRATRAX. thanks. i wish that you knew for sure because i am trying to figure out if you can run a pae kernel..but if that is what its based on then you can run a pae kernel.
[20:42] <skribblezatcha> nice elfy.
[20:42] <ANTHRATRAX> alright (crtl+alt+f1 right?)
[20:43] <elfy> ctrl+alt+t
[20:43] <ANTHRATRAX> okay thanks
[20:43] <elfy> or super+t
[20:43] <ANTHRATRAX> it froze... >.>
[20:45] <ANTHRATRAX> should i restart the installation process. it seems to be locked up. or should i just boot from the live cd into xfce
[20:47] <daviator> how long does it locked up?
[20:48] <ANTHRATRAX> it's been locked up sfor a few minutes now. cursor disappeared
[20:48] <elfy> ANTHRATRAX: http://askubuntu.com/questions/459527/installation-hangs-up-on-14-04
[20:50] <daviator> i think that you have to wait for few minutes
[20:50] <ANTHRATRAX> thank you very much
[20:52] <daviator> if its wont do anything about 2 minutes try to break it up, but it`ll have some bad effects
[20:52] <ANTHRATRAX> break it up?
[20:53] <daviator> break it and do update again
[20:53] <ANTHRATRAX> ahh okay
[20:55] <elfy> ANTHRATRAX: if you're using a livecd - did you check the burn was good? hit any key when you're at the boot screen with the pic of a kbd and 'human' at the bottom
[20:55] <elfy> there is an option there to check the cd
[20:56] <elfy> also did you check the md5sum of the image you downloaded? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[20:57] <ANTHRATRAX> no i did not
[20:58] <ANTHRATRAX> checking for defects now
[20:59] <daviator> thanks skribblezatcha for a big help and all users that helped me to hear sounds on linux :)
[20:59] <skribblezatcha>  you are very welcome daviator..i'm just glad that you got it working man. :)
[21:02] <daviator> good night guys V
[21:02] <ANTHRATRAX> night daviator. thank you for your help
[21:04] <kostex> hi! I have a service icecast2 in my /etc/init.d/ folder.. but don't want it to start at boot-up, so I've created an icecast2.override (with 'manual' in it) in /etc/init/ but the service starts anyhow.. am I forgetting something?
[21:26] <ANTHRATRAX> im just gonna go ahead and download 12.04. you think it will work?
[21:29] <skribblezatcha> you can go for it and see whats up ANTHRATRAX..and you may be able to even try and upgrade from there to 14.04..but choose to boot in to the older kernel once its all upgraded. that way the newer kernel wont be an issue and yet you can still use the newer software and system upgrades.
[21:30] <ANTHRATRAX> okay sweet. i have strong hopes with this one
[21:30] <skribblezatcha> i do too ANTHRATRAX..hopefully that works for you.
[21:30] <ANTHRATRAX> hopefully
[21:30] <ANTHRATRAX> thank you for all of your help
[21:31] <skribblezatcha> yw ANTHRATRAX.
[21:42] <skribblezatcha> be back in a few.
[22:09] <Guest21887> Having an issue with xubuntu 14.04 apt-get and software updater it tells me that the background daemon has crashed and it seems the daemon has died. any help?
[22:20] <Jyoung> i have tried to run apt-get clean and autoclean and autoremove and nothing will correct it