[03:38] <bluesabre> 3
[04:12] <xnox> hm, interesting.
[04:13] <xnox> slangasek: without a matching boost-mpi-source1.54 above will result in uninstallables in universe.
[04:14]  * xnox goes to prepare it
[04:14] <slangasek> xnox: ok, thanks
[04:15]  * xnox mumble mumble archive reorg mumble =)
[04:29] <xnox> thanks!
[04:30] <slangasek> no rpob
[05:11] <ScottK> xnox: That's not archive reorg's fault. Before we split the package, we just didn't provide the mpi packages at all.
[05:12] <xnox> ScottK: I mean if archive reorg plans would be in place, we would not need to split source packages at all.
[05:13] <ScottK> How so?
[05:14] <xnox> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveReorganisation/Components
[05:14] <infinity> ScottK: One of the theories behind archive reorg (ie: flattening the components to free/non-free instead of {un,}supported-{non-}free is that we could let supported build-dep on unsupported and just mark binaries supported.
[05:15] <infinity> ScottK: I'm less convinced this is actually a sensible way to declare things, since we probably want to support things we use to build things, but in a handwavy way, I get the intent.
[05:16] <slangasek> we don't really want to support them; feel free to peruse http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/m-r-package-team-mapping.html for some of the crazier stuff that doesn't actually matter to us except transitively and we shouldn't actually provide security support for
[05:17] <infinity> slangasek: Well, we don't want to support everything, but we want to support a lot of things.  Means a lot more explicit seeding, I guess, for toolchains and things we actually really should support?
[05:18] <infinity> But I can see, for instance, why we don't care about supporting things like aalib, except to make sure they're buildable.
[05:18] <slangasek> build-essential is already seeded, and done ;)
[05:18] <infinity> Which was what I meant by "handwavy"... We need to support a lot of things that are currently only transitively supported, but not necessarily all of it.
[05:18] <infinity> slangasek: There's a lot more than build-essential that matters. :P
[05:19] <infinity> slangasek: We don't seed most of X, for instance, cause it's all transitive.
[05:19] <infinity> In fact, that's true of most libraries.
[05:19] <infinity> And some we might not care about, but others, we really do.
[05:19] <slangasek> we would seed the binary deps, not the source deps
[05:20] <infinity> Err, right.  Sorry, X and libs are poor examples.
[05:20] <infinity> But there are other toolchain bits that aren't build-essential.
[05:20] <infinity> Anyhow, I get the theory.  Some day, it might be less of a theory.
[05:26] <xnox> argh, why is lintian hanging in doing select, when executed under sbuild?!
[05:26] <xnox> annoying.
[06:05] <infinity> xnox: Probably trying to write to the controlling terminal, which sbuild doesn't provide.
[06:06] <xnox> hm, but lintian hasn't changed recently, nor e.g. sbuild. i wonder if it's something else like a hook or some such.