[06:48] <xenos1984_> hi everyone, i'm trying to figure out how exactly the gps works on a nexus 7, i.e., how the gps data gets from the gps device to the application
[06:49] <xenos1984_> so far i understood that the application level interface is provided by QtLocation, but i'm interested in the low level interface
[06:50] <xenos1984_> is there some serial device aka /dev/tty* or the like which provides NMEA data? or some other interface / driver?
[06:51] <xenos1984_> any hint to hardware docs or some driver code where i could look this up myself would also be highly appreciated
[11:48] <Aizen> ogra_, you there ?
[11:58] <Joropo> Hola
[12:03] <Aizen> Where should I place the android system.img ? My device isn't officially supported so I have to do it manually.
[12:48] <cwayne> anyone good with go+qml around?
[15:34] <Drew> Hello
[15:35] <popey> hello
[15:40] <pitti> stgraber: I was wondering how to launch an upstart user session in a schroot, to make "ubuntu-app-launch" work in a schroot; do you happen to know how?
[15:53] <doflaherty> there were references in some of the landing team e-mails to MMS support - has that landed yet or is it still in progress?
[15:55] <dobey> pitti: i managed to get 90% of the way to having that work yesterday. it was stressful :(
[15:56] <dobey> pitti: and in the end I still got blocked by apport issues (doing it inside an lxc)
[15:56] <dobey> err, not apport, apparmor
[15:56] <dobey> doflaherty: i think receiving works mostly, but sending isn't quite there yet, iirc
[16:09] <doflaherty> dobey, is there a way to test that aside from asking my friends to send me pictures?  t-mo lets me send text messages via e-mail, but attaching images doesn't seem to work
[16:10] <dobey> doflaherty: no idea
[17:03] <Aizen> ogra_, you there? I finally got the init process working :). But now I'm getting "initrd: Couldn't find a system partition" error. Where should I place the android system.img ?
[17:08] <Aizen> Anyone ?
[17:27] <tonyt> Hi, i just installed ubuntu touch on nexus 7
[17:27] <tonyt> does the panel change from portrait to landscape - doesn't seem so
[17:33] <frecel> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1332858
[17:34] <jjohansen> apparm
[17:44] <stgraber> pitti: init --user?
[17:45] <stgraber> pitti: you'll then need to set UPSTART_SESSION to the right value (you can find it in /run/user/<uid>/usptart/sessions if XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is set
[17:45] <stgraber> pitti: after that, initctl should work as expected and target that user session
[20:34] <DirkT> Hi, does any of you know if desktop convergence is supported on the Nexus 7? I haven't found any statement using Google.
[20:44]  * DirkT is patiently walking away yet still waiting for an answer
[20:48] <popey> DirkT: no
[20:53] <DirkT> popey: thanks for the info. I'd like get a device that supports desktop convergence. What should I get at this stage to be as officially supported as currently possible?
[20:58] <popey> DirkT: we're some way off from full desktop convergence, I wouldn't like to recommend a device yet.
[21:00] <DirkT> Well, then let me ask differently: has a Nexus 7 decent hardware enough to run one day desktop convergence? ;)
[21:02] <popey> Couldn't tell you.
[21:02] <popey> We're not there yet.
[21:03] <popey> I wouldn't want to say yes, and you come back to me in 18 months and complain ☻
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> DirkT, Don't hold your breath I have a nexus 7
[21:05] <DirkT> Ok, no problem. One of my clients is an investment company that is connected to an Asian noname Android device manufacturer. I would like to build sometng to convince them that Ubuntu is the sugar in the cake that they have been lacking so far. ;) So, desktop convergence aside, what works currently works with Nexus 7 pretty well, yeah? It's not lacking anything hardware wise that would spoil the show?
[21:06] <DirkT> Nexus 7 is close hw-wise to that other product, hence my interest.
[21:07] <popey> the devices we currently support are Nexus 4, Nexus 7 and Nexus 10
[21:08] <DirkT> Yes, but screen size aside is any one of them able to do things the others can't?
[21:08] <DirkT> (as far as Ubuntu is concerned)
[21:09] <popey> Sure, the Nexus 4 can make phone calls ㋛
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> DirkT, the touch is not a ubuntu desktop environment, you might look closer at it's functionality.
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> not yet anyway, ;)
[21:11] <DirkT> wilee-nilee: I know. Until convergence is there. :-P
[21:13] <DirkT> Ok, so currently Nexus 4 has the most features. Thanks. :-)
[21:14] <DirkT> Thanks to the team here for making Ubuntu Touch's awesome. :-)
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> DirkT, again don't hold your breathm canonical has the doors open for providers to bite the worm, seems there is something coming up for the touch is all.
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> I would pay big bucks for the docking phone to the desktop, just waiting for it to happen ;)
[21:22] <DirkT> :-) It'll be a killer.