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Kilosmorning all05:56
Kiloshi trix Gremble 08:32
GrembleHey Kilos 08:34
Kiloshi Golynx_ 08:39
Golynx_hi Kilos08:40
Golynx_the great search begins :/08:41
Kilossearch for?08:41
Golynx_a way to force install older backed up packages08:42
Kilosjust trysomething08:44
Kilostype in deja-dup and see what shows08:44
Kilosoh you got no dash08:44
Kilosin terminal sudo deja-dup08:45
Kilospity you didnt use it for the backup. it remembers installed stuff and all settings etc08:46
Golynx_you must specify a mode08:46
Golynx_hmm08:46
Kiloswhen making a backup with it you choose local folder and give a path08:47
Golynx_too late now lol08:47
Kilosotherwise it wants to backup inna sky08:47
Kilosim sure that would have installed everything you had installed08:47
Kiloswhat specific package do you want to install Golynx_ ?08:48
Kilosanother idea i have08:48
Kilosdo you have gdebi installed08:49
Golynx_i used gdebi to install the graphics drivers then activated it, but all the other stuff got many other files included that wont be picked up08:49
Golynx_if i use gdebi it will ask to download the rest of the package files08:50
Kilosoh you tried gdebi08:50
Kilossee what they are then install them too first with gdebi08:50
Golynx_ya only foe the graphics drivers it worked08:50
Golynx_for*08:50
Kilosit will show what dependancies are missing them you install them from archives forst with gdebi08:51
Kilosfirst08:51
Golynx_gdebi wont include the rest of the files when choosing a package file, it just wana download them08:51
Kilosim sure it showed somewhere what files werte needed08:52
Kiloswere08:52
Golynx_ya it did show the needed files08:52
charl_good morning Golynx_, Kilos 08:53
Golynx_but where to put them for gdebi to detect them08:53
Kilosthen install them manually first08:53
charl_Maaz: coffee on08:53
* Maaz puts the kettle on08:53
Kiloshi charl_ 08:53
charl_how's it going Kilos 08:53
Golynx_hi charl_08:53
Kilosinstall them not put them somewhere08:53
Kilosgood ty charl_ 08:53
Kilosand you?08:53
Golynx_can you install them one at a time 08:54
KilosGolynx_, you have rsynced them to archives right?08:54
Kilosyes08:54
Golynx_yes08:54
Kilosgo to archives and right click install with gdebi08:54
Golynx_ok08:54
Kilos  /var/cache/apt/archives/08:55
Golynx_Error: Dependency is not satisfiable08:56
charl_Kilos: i'm good08:56
Golynx_i used it with apache2 , its got a ton of files08:56
Kiloslol08:56
MaazCoffee's ready for charl_!08:57
Kilosi installed a whole ubuntu like that once08:57
Kilostook 2 days08:57
Kilosfind each dependancy and manually install08:57
KilosGolynx_, did you run sudo apt-get update after rsyncing?08:59
Golynx_hmm its not showing the dependencies included in the archives08:59
Golynx_for rsyncing ?08:59
Kilosupdate looks online and in archives for what is there09:00
Golynx_oh ya i did09:00
Kiloseverytime you add anything to archives you gotta update09:00
Golynx_but even before that it showed older versions of what i had backed up09:00
Golynx_gdebi is not listing all the files09:02
Golynx_it just shows a bunch of folders not created yet ai09:02
Kilosgo through the dependancies one at a time skippig those it gives errors with then come back to them when all others are installed09:02
Kilosoften they rely on each other for stuff09:03
Kilosdid you run sudo apt-get upgrade after sudo apt-get update after installing?09:04
Golynx_can i use Synaptic to highlight the dependencies needed by the program then use that rather for finding what i need from the other version 09:04
Kilosthat first upgrade is important09:04
Golynx_nope09:05
Kilosthere is your prob09:05
Kiloswe been this road before09:05
Golynx_it will wana upgrade new stuff anyways , stuff i dont want09:07
Kilossee how much it wants to download man09:07
Kilosit will use what you have in archives and add what else is needed and give you option y/n to carry on09:08
Kilosyou can make a good working ubuntu without that first upgrade09:08
Kiloscant09:08
Golynx_422,1 MB09:09
Kiloseish09:09
Kilosare you sure you rsynced properly09:09
Kiloscheck /var/cache/apt/archives/ size and check the folder you synced froms size09:10
Golynx_ya i did sudo rsync -av ~/Desktop/precise/ /var/cache/apt/archives/ 09:10
Golynx_its 422 MB09:11
Kilosdid you tell synaptic to save downloaded packages in archives09:12
Kilosotherwise they gone on reboot09:12
Golynx_no 342 MB 09:12
Golynx_i didnt download any packages09:12
Kilosman the saving is for saving everything in archives09:13
Kilosit just shows as downloaded packages09:13
Golynx_ai, a few weeks of windows and i forget all i learned in ubuntu lol09:14
Kilosand come make my head hurt again09:16
Kiloswhew09:16
Golynx_lol09:16
Golynx_i can still choose the stuff i dont wana upgrade, so thats fine09:19
Golynx_just installing the stuff i need is the headache now09:19
Kilosjust dont choose to not upgrade important stuff like you did last time09:24
Kilosi cant go that route again09:24
Golynx_ya sure09:24
Kilosyou cant run just the stuff you need successfully without the first upgrade09:24
Golynx_does apt have an offline installer thing that will add all the dependencies of the package in the same folder09:25
Kilosif it sees them in archives yes09:26
Kilosdid you check your archives size and the backup folders size09:26
Golynx_apt-get always wana connect to the internet09:27
Kilosyes thats where it sees what is available and compares to what you have in archives09:27
Golynx_ya backup folder is 334 MB and archives 342 MB09:28
Kiloscan a couple of weeks on windows cause this much damage or have you fallen on your head as well09:28
Kilosok so then gdebi should be able to install things09:28
Golynx_its the cold i guess, lots of snow here lol09:29
Golynx_brain freeze :D09:29
Kilosdoes synaptic show the older stuff with a mark to show its upgradeable?09:29
Golynx_nope Synaptic only shows latest versions09:30
Golynx_or stuff available for download09:30
Kilosthen gdebi it is for you09:30
Kilossaynaptic also looks in archives09:30
Kilosyou hit the reload button i think its called09:31
Kilosthats same as apt-get update09:31
Golynx_so if i install a package and a few of its dependencies with gdebi, then it will override the synaptic version ?09:31
Kilosyes09:33
Golynx_so if a few dependencies are missing then synaptic should try to fetch them09:33
Kilosit will say a later version is available online but close that and install09:33
Kilosyou can even do it all offline09:33
Golynx_i tried that with gdebi while offline but it wants to connect to the internet to get the dependencies09:34
Kilosi told you just now to then install the dependancies separately with gdebi then go back to what wanted them09:36
Golynx_what about apt-offline ?09:36
Kilossjoe man09:36
Kilosyou know more about that than me09:37
Golynx_ok 09:37
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: you there?12:19
Kilosyessir that12:22
KilosThatGraemeGuy, as well12:22
ThatGraemeGuyhttp://i.imgur.com/9hNpLTC.png12:22
ThatGraemeGuylife is good at -266 :-p12:23
Kilosya thats a good catch. you selling them?12:24
Kiloshehe12:24
ThatGraemeGuylol12:24
Kiloswell see who gets the cat first12:24
ThatGraemeGuyi haven't mined them yet, looks to pretty12:25
Kilosdunno what you supposed to do with it anyway12:25
ThatGraemeGuycome see if you are bored sometime12:25
Kiloslemme come see12:25
ThatGraemeGuygo to the pyramid so long12:25
Kilosi am at the mine12:25
Kilosare you at the pyramid12:26
Kilosif you not there i cant find it12:26
KilosThatGraemeGuy, ?12:26
ThatGraemeGuyi'm at the mine under my pyramid12:26
ThatGraemeGuyi'll come get you are you close to the pyramid?12:27
Kiloshmm...15:32
Kiloshi psychicist 16:14
KilosMaaz, hi16:41
MaazHowzit Kilos16:41
Kilosah we still online16:41
Kiloswhat a silent bunch on a saterday night16:42
charl_hi psychicist 16:59
charl_hi Kilos 17:00
charl_hi theblazehen 17:18
theblazehenhi charl_ 17:19
Kiloshi charl_ theblazehen 17:25
Kilospsychicist, not talking17:25
Golynxoh my, mu ubuntu is dead :/17:29
Golynxmy*17:29
Golynxand i can never get it back again17:30
charl_hi Golynx 17:30
charl_reinstall ?17:30
Kiloswhat did you do now?17:30
Golynxit wont detect the graphics card anymore17:31
Golynxwhen i try to enter it just shuts down the pc17:31
Kilosso its dead? you mean black screen17:31
Golynxonly windows works17:31
Kilosask charl_ for commands to set your resolution smaller17:32
Kilosthen you ctrl+alt+f3 and then use commands17:32
Golynxit gives options to use other graphics, i choose it then it shuts down the pc17:32
Kilosoh so you see the grub menu17:33
Kilosto choose win or ubuntu17:33
Golynxya, i can only boot into windows17:33
Kilosdo you see recovery mode17:33
Kilosor boot from command line17:34
Golynxplus my lappies charger pin is extremely hot, i dont know what will happen17:34
Kilosboot to command line17:34
Kiloswhat did you do before you rebooted17:34
Kilosit was working17:34
Golynxno matter what i do it just shuts down  when choosing ubuntu17:35
Kilosthen a reinstall is all option17:35
Kilosyou can fix win with ubuntu but not vice-versa17:35
Golynxi dont know , the charger pin gets extremely hot when i'm in ubuntu too17:36
Kilosyou broke something with whatever you were doing17:36
Golynxi installed all the packages from archives backup17:37
Kiloshow good is the battery?17:37
Kiloscharger is there to charge battery not run pc17:37
Kiloscharl_, help him man17:37
Golynxi think the charging jack is broken or something and need a new one17:38
charl_i'm watching a show... ok lemme read... one sec17:38
Kilosi asked how good is the battery17:38
Golynxits at 50% not charging17:38
Kiloscan you boot into win with charger unplugged17:39
Golynxyes17:39
charl_hmmm sounds bad17:39
theblazehenhi Kilos 17:39
Kilosok and if you shutdown everything does it show charging?17:39
charl_you can set the resolution using xrandr but it won't help much if there is a problem with the graphics card17:39
charl_but it's very strange that you can still then boot into windows normally17:40
Golynxall the temperatures in the lappy is normal 50 degrees and the charging block is cool , only the pin of the charger is so very hot 17:40
charl_never had that before myself, sounds like some very strange contact problem17:40
charl_is it only in the plug, the socket, or both ?17:41
charl_by pin i assume you mean the contact17:41
Golynxcharl_ yes the pin of the charger that plugs into the jack in the lappy17:42
charl_the only suggestion i can make is that dirt somehow managed to get into the contact17:42
charl_into the jack as you call it17:42
Golynxi cant even touch there my finger still hurting17:42
charl_whow ok no then there is a major problem17:42
theblazehenNeed someone good with apt here..17:42
charl_that is not normal17:42
charl_theblazehen: what are you trying to do with apt ?17:42
theblazehenrm'd /etc/{dovecot,postfix} before I unintalled them17:43
theblazehenapt-get purge gave problems, so I recreated those folders17:43
theblazehenPurge worked fine, however installing mail-stack-delivery now says it cant find my private key17:43
charl_rather try to dpkg-reconfigure intead17:43
Golynxtheblazehen i think i need to solve the charger jack issue first before attempting to install ubuntu again17:44
theblazehenGolynx: yeah, ok17:44
Golynxty guys i will look for a solution17:44
charl_sounds logical17:44
charl_best of luck !!!17:44
theblazehencharl_: nvm, fixed it17:45
Golynxcharl_ ty17:45
charl_theblazehen: great :)17:45
theblazehenhad to purge twince..17:45
Kilosgood luck Golynx 17:45
GolynxKilos ty17:45
charl_theblazehen: bah :(17:45
charl_if first time fails simply try again17:46
charl_:D17:46
theblazehenWow.. /me found a great dubstep artist. Them bass lines..17:48
theblazehen<317:48
charl_don't keep it for yourself :P17:49
charl_share !17:49
theblazehenlol, its Vaski17:51
theblazehenSearch on soundcloud17:51
theblazehenListen to the Gateway mix :D17:51
charl_haha :D17:54
charl_too much dubstep for me17:54
theblazehenlol17:54
charl_this is more my type of thing https://soundcloud.com/dilemn17:55
theblazehenThats your username?17:55
charl_he did some stuff like https://soundcloud.com/dilemn/bluescreens-undercover-dilemn which is pretty good17:55
theblazehenah17:55
charl_no it's a french guy17:55
theblazehenGonna give it a listen now17:56
theblazehencharl_: You ever listen to edIT or the glitch mob? 17:56
theblazehenI enjoy them as well. 17:56
charl_nope don't know them17:56
charl_i'll look them up17:56
theblazehengroupadd -g 5000 vmail17:57
theblazehenoops17:57
theblazehenguess you can figure out what I'm doing...17:57
charl_something related to email ?17:58
theblazehencharl_: dilemn is quite nice..17:58
theblazehenand yeah17:58
charl_that wasn't much of a guess :P17:59
Kilosnight all. sleep tight18:08
theblazehenAnyone got a tar of /etc/dovecot I can have?18:25
charl_sorry, haven't used dovecot in like 10 years18:26
charl_i ran a small imaps server under my desk back in 2005 i think18:26
theblazehenThought it might come anyway on blank ubuntu install18:29
theblazehenTurns out the purge didn't purge dependencies or something18:29
theblazehenyeah, all good now18:30
charl_no those config files in /etc gets made when you install the package18:59
charl_the setup scripts18:59
charl_otherwise every ubuntu install would have tons of nonsense lying in /etc/18:59
theblazehenyeah, I thought so19:01
theblazehenBut thought maybe this way special somehow19:01
theblazehen"Since Nginx does not contain native PHP processing like some other web browsers, " wut19:21
Grembleisn't nginx a webserver?19:32
GrembleYes, it is a webserver19:32
theblazehenyeah, server not browser19:56
theblazehenTutorial dun goofed19:56
GrembleAlso, I am pretty sure that nginx would process php, otherwise it wouldnt be really useful19:59
theblazehenyeah, through fpm19:59
GrembleBecause browsers most certainly don't process php19:59
theblazehenyeah, thats the point20:03
GrembleGood. I tend to run around and miss points. So I am glad I caught this one20:05
theblazehenlol20:05
kbmonkeyHallo20:57
superflyMaaz: tell Kilos plastic and paper won't work. we need wool. try not to slaughter too many sheep...22:23
Maazsuperfly: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode22:23
kbmonkeyyou folks minetesting? :)22:30

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