Kilos | morning all | 05:56 |
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Kilos | hi trix Gremble | 08:32 |
Gremble | Hey Kilos | 08:34 |
Kilos | hi Golynx_ | 08:39 |
Golynx_ | hi Kilos | 08:40 |
Golynx_ | the great search begins :/ | 08:41 |
Kilos | search for? | 08:41 |
Golynx_ | a way to force install older backed up packages | 08:42 |
Kilos | just trysomething | 08:44 |
Kilos | type in deja-dup and see what shows | 08:44 |
Kilos | oh you got no dash | 08:44 |
Kilos | in terminal sudo deja-dup | 08:45 |
Kilos | pity you didnt use it for the backup. it remembers installed stuff and all settings etc | 08:46 |
Golynx_ | you must specify a mode | 08:46 |
Golynx_ | hmm | 08:46 |
Kilos | when making a backup with it you choose local folder and give a path | 08:47 |
Golynx_ | too late now lol | 08:47 |
Kilos | otherwise it wants to backup inna sky | 08:47 |
Kilos | im sure that would have installed everything you had installed | 08:47 |
Kilos | what specific package do you want to install Golynx_ ? | 08:48 |
Kilos | another idea i have | 08:48 |
Kilos | do you have gdebi installed | 08:49 |
Golynx_ | i used gdebi to install the graphics drivers then activated it, but all the other stuff got many other files included that wont be picked up | 08:49 |
Golynx_ | if i use gdebi it will ask to download the rest of the package files | 08:50 |
Kilos | oh you tried gdebi | 08:50 |
Kilos | see what they are then install them too first with gdebi | 08:50 |
Golynx_ | ya only foe the graphics drivers it worked | 08:50 |
Golynx_ | for* | 08:50 |
Kilos | it will show what dependancies are missing them you install them from archives forst with gdebi | 08:51 |
Kilos | first | 08:51 |
Golynx_ | gdebi wont include the rest of the files when choosing a package file, it just wana download them | 08:51 |
Kilos | im sure it showed somewhere what files werte needed | 08:52 |
Kilos | were | 08:52 |
Golynx_ | ya it did show the needed files | 08:52 |
charl_ | good morning Golynx_, Kilos | 08:53 |
Golynx_ | but where to put them for gdebi to detect them | 08:53 |
Kilos | then install them manually first | 08:53 |
charl_ | Maaz: coffee on | 08:53 |
* Maaz puts the kettle on | 08:53 | |
Kilos | hi charl_ | 08:53 |
charl_ | how's it going Kilos | 08:53 |
Golynx_ | hi charl_ | 08:53 |
Kilos | install them not put them somewhere | 08:53 |
Kilos | good ty charl_ | 08:53 |
Kilos | and you? | 08:53 |
Golynx_ | can you install them one at a time | 08:54 |
Kilos | Golynx_, you have rsynced them to archives right? | 08:54 |
Kilos | yes | 08:54 |
Golynx_ | yes | 08:54 |
Kilos | go to archives and right click install with gdebi | 08:54 |
Golynx_ | ok | 08:54 |
Kilos | /var/cache/apt/archives/ | 08:55 |
Golynx_ | Error: Dependency is not satisfiable | 08:56 |
charl_ | Kilos: i'm good | 08:56 |
Golynx_ | i used it with apache2 , its got a ton of files | 08:56 |
Kilos | lol | 08:56 |
Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl_! | 08:57 |
Kilos | i installed a whole ubuntu like that once | 08:57 |
Kilos | took 2 days | 08:57 |
Kilos | find each dependancy and manually install | 08:57 |
Kilos | Golynx_, did you run sudo apt-get update after rsyncing? | 08:59 |
Golynx_ | hmm its not showing the dependencies included in the archives | 08:59 |
Golynx_ | for rsyncing ? | 08:59 |
Kilos | update looks online and in archives for what is there | 09:00 |
Golynx_ | oh ya i did | 09:00 |
Kilos | everytime you add anything to archives you gotta update | 09:00 |
Golynx_ | but even before that it showed older versions of what i had backed up | 09:00 |
Golynx_ | gdebi is not listing all the files | 09:02 |
Golynx_ | it just shows a bunch of folders not created yet ai | 09:02 |
Kilos | go through the dependancies one at a time skippig those it gives errors with then come back to them when all others are installed | 09:02 |
Kilos | often they rely on each other for stuff | 09:03 |
Kilos | did you run sudo apt-get upgrade after sudo apt-get update after installing? | 09:04 |
Golynx_ | can i use Synaptic to highlight the dependencies needed by the program then use that rather for finding what i need from the other version | 09:04 |
Kilos | that first upgrade is important | 09:04 |
Golynx_ | nope | 09:05 |
Kilos | there is your prob | 09:05 |
Kilos | we been this road before | 09:05 |
Golynx_ | it will wana upgrade new stuff anyways , stuff i dont want | 09:07 |
Kilos | see how much it wants to download man | 09:07 |
Kilos | it will use what you have in archives and add what else is needed and give you option y/n to carry on | 09:08 |
Kilos | you can make a good working ubuntu without that first upgrade | 09:08 |
Kilos | cant | 09:08 |
Golynx_ | 422,1 MB | 09:09 |
Kilos | eish | 09:09 |
Kilos | are you sure you rsynced properly | 09:09 |
Kilos | check /var/cache/apt/archives/ size and check the folder you synced froms size | 09:10 |
Golynx_ | ya i did sudo rsync -av ~/Desktop/precise/ /var/cache/apt/archives/ | 09:10 |
Golynx_ | its 422 MB | 09:11 |
Kilos | did you tell synaptic to save downloaded packages in archives | 09:12 |
Kilos | otherwise they gone on reboot | 09:12 |
Golynx_ | no 342 MB | 09:12 |
Golynx_ | i didnt download any packages | 09:12 |
Kilos | man the saving is for saving everything in archives | 09:13 |
Kilos | it just shows as downloaded packages | 09:13 |
Golynx_ | ai, a few weeks of windows and i forget all i learned in ubuntu lol | 09:14 |
Kilos | and come make my head hurt again | 09:16 |
Kilos | whew | 09:16 |
Golynx_ | lol | 09:16 |
Golynx_ | i can still choose the stuff i dont wana upgrade, so thats fine | 09:19 |
Golynx_ | just installing the stuff i need is the headache now | 09:19 |
Kilos | just dont choose to not upgrade important stuff like you did last time | 09:24 |
Kilos | i cant go that route again | 09:24 |
Golynx_ | ya sure | 09:24 |
Kilos | you cant run just the stuff you need successfully without the first upgrade | 09:24 |
Golynx_ | does apt have an offline installer thing that will add all the dependencies of the package in the same folder | 09:25 |
Kilos | if it sees them in archives yes | 09:26 |
Kilos | did you check your archives size and the backup folders size | 09:26 |
Golynx_ | apt-get always wana connect to the internet | 09:27 |
Kilos | yes thats where it sees what is available and compares to what you have in archives | 09:27 |
Golynx_ | ya backup folder is 334 MB and archives 342 MB | 09:28 |
Kilos | can a couple of weeks on windows cause this much damage or have you fallen on your head as well | 09:28 |
Kilos | ok so then gdebi should be able to install things | 09:28 |
Golynx_ | its the cold i guess, lots of snow here lol | 09:29 |
Golynx_ | brain freeze :D | 09:29 |
Kilos | does synaptic show the older stuff with a mark to show its upgradeable? | 09:29 |
Golynx_ | nope Synaptic only shows latest versions | 09:30 |
Golynx_ | or stuff available for download | 09:30 |
Kilos | then gdebi it is for you | 09:30 |
Kilos | saynaptic also looks in archives | 09:30 |
Kilos | you hit the reload button i think its called | 09:31 |
Kilos | thats same as apt-get update | 09:31 |
Golynx_ | so if i install a package and a few of its dependencies with gdebi, then it will override the synaptic version ? | 09:31 |
Kilos | yes | 09:33 |
Golynx_ | so if a few dependencies are missing then synaptic should try to fetch them | 09:33 |
Kilos | it will say a later version is available online but close that and install | 09:33 |
Kilos | you can even do it all offline | 09:33 |
Golynx_ | i tried that with gdebi while offline but it wants to connect to the internet to get the dependencies | 09:34 |
Kilos | i told you just now to then install the dependancies separately with gdebi then go back to what wanted them | 09:36 |
Golynx_ | what about apt-offline ? | 09:36 |
Kilos | sjoe man | 09:36 |
Kilos | you know more about that than me | 09:37 |
Golynx_ | ok | 09:37 |
ThatGraemeGuy | Kilos: you there? | 12:19 |
Kilos | yessir that | 12:22 |
Kilos | ThatGraemeGuy, as well | 12:22 |
ThatGraemeGuy | http://i.imgur.com/9hNpLTC.png | 12:22 |
ThatGraemeGuy | life is good at -266 :-p | 12:23 |
Kilos | ya thats a good catch. you selling them? | 12:24 |
Kilos | hehe | 12:24 |
ThatGraemeGuy | lol | 12:24 |
Kilos | well see who gets the cat first | 12:24 |
ThatGraemeGuy | i haven't mined them yet, looks to pretty | 12:25 |
Kilos | dunno what you supposed to do with it anyway | 12:25 |
ThatGraemeGuy | come see if you are bored sometime | 12:25 |
Kilos | lemme come see | 12:25 |
ThatGraemeGuy | go to the pyramid so long | 12:25 |
Kilos | i am at the mine | 12:25 |
Kilos | are you at the pyramid | 12:26 |
Kilos | if you not there i cant find it | 12:26 |
Kilos | ThatGraemeGuy, ? | 12:26 |
ThatGraemeGuy | i'm at the mine under my pyramid | 12:26 |
ThatGraemeGuy | i'll come get you are you close to the pyramid? | 12:27 |
Kilos | hmm... | 15:32 |
Kilos | hi psychicist | 16:14 |
Kilos | Maaz, hi | 16:41 |
Maaz | Howzit Kilos | 16:41 |
Kilos | ah we still online | 16:41 |
Kilos | what a silent bunch on a saterday night | 16:42 |
charl_ | hi psychicist | 16:59 |
charl_ | hi Kilos | 17:00 |
charl_ | hi theblazehen | 17:18 |
theblazehen | hi charl_ | 17:19 |
Kilos | hi charl_ theblazehen | 17:25 |
Kilos | psychicist, not talking | 17:25 |
Golynx | oh my, mu ubuntu is dead :/ | 17:29 |
Golynx | my* | 17:29 |
Golynx | and i can never get it back again | 17:30 |
charl_ | hi Golynx | 17:30 |
charl_ | reinstall ? | 17:30 |
Kilos | what did you do now? | 17:30 |
Golynx | it wont detect the graphics card anymore | 17:31 |
Golynx | when i try to enter it just shuts down the pc | 17:31 |
Kilos | so its dead? you mean black screen | 17:31 |
Golynx | only windows works | 17:31 |
Kilos | ask charl_ for commands to set your resolution smaller | 17:32 |
Kilos | then you ctrl+alt+f3 and then use commands | 17:32 |
Golynx | it gives options to use other graphics, i choose it then it shuts down the pc | 17:32 |
Kilos | oh so you see the grub menu | 17:33 |
Kilos | to choose win or ubuntu | 17:33 |
Golynx | ya, i can only boot into windows | 17:33 |
Kilos | do you see recovery mode | 17:33 |
Kilos | or boot from command line | 17:34 |
Golynx | plus my lappies charger pin is extremely hot, i dont know what will happen | 17:34 |
Kilos | boot to command line | 17:34 |
Kilos | what did you do before you rebooted | 17:34 |
Kilos | it was working | 17:34 |
Golynx | no matter what i do it just shuts down when choosing ubuntu | 17:35 |
Kilos | then a reinstall is all option | 17:35 |
Kilos | you can fix win with ubuntu but not vice-versa | 17:35 |
Golynx | i dont know , the charger pin gets extremely hot when i'm in ubuntu too | 17:36 |
Kilos | you broke something with whatever you were doing | 17:36 |
Golynx | i installed all the packages from archives backup | 17:37 |
Kilos | how good is the battery? | 17:37 |
Kilos | charger is there to charge battery not run pc | 17:37 |
Kilos | charl_, help him man | 17:37 |
Golynx | i think the charging jack is broken or something and need a new one | 17:38 |
charl_ | i'm watching a show... ok lemme read... one sec | 17:38 |
Kilos | i asked how good is the battery | 17:38 |
Golynx | its at 50% not charging | 17:38 |
Kilos | can you boot into win with charger unplugged | 17:39 |
Golynx | yes | 17:39 |
charl_ | hmmm sounds bad | 17:39 |
theblazehen | hi Kilos | 17:39 |
Kilos | ok and if you shutdown everything does it show charging? | 17:39 |
charl_ | you can set the resolution using xrandr but it won't help much if there is a problem with the graphics card | 17:39 |
charl_ | but it's very strange that you can still then boot into windows normally | 17:40 |
Golynx | all the temperatures in the lappy is normal 50 degrees and the charging block is cool , only the pin of the charger is so very hot | 17:40 |
charl_ | never had that before myself, sounds like some very strange contact problem | 17:40 |
charl_ | is it only in the plug, the socket, or both ? | 17:41 |
charl_ | by pin i assume you mean the contact | 17:41 |
Golynx | charl_ yes the pin of the charger that plugs into the jack in the lappy | 17:42 |
charl_ | the only suggestion i can make is that dirt somehow managed to get into the contact | 17:42 |
charl_ | into the jack as you call it | 17:42 |
Golynx | i cant even touch there my finger still hurting | 17:42 |
charl_ | whow ok no then there is a major problem | 17:42 |
theblazehen | Need someone good with apt here.. | 17:42 |
charl_ | that is not normal | 17:42 |
charl_ | theblazehen: what are you trying to do with apt ? | 17:42 |
theblazehen | rm'd /etc/{dovecot,postfix} before I unintalled them | 17:43 |
theblazehen | apt-get purge gave problems, so I recreated those folders | 17:43 |
theblazehen | Purge worked fine, however installing mail-stack-delivery now says it cant find my private key | 17:43 |
charl_ | rather try to dpkg-reconfigure intead | 17:43 |
Golynx | theblazehen i think i need to solve the charger jack issue first before attempting to install ubuntu again | 17:44 |
theblazehen | Golynx: yeah, ok | 17:44 |
Golynx | ty guys i will look for a solution | 17:44 |
charl_ | sounds logical | 17:44 |
charl_ | best of luck !!! | 17:44 |
theblazehen | charl_: nvm, fixed it | 17:45 |
Golynx | charl_ ty | 17:45 |
charl_ | theblazehen: great :) | 17:45 |
theblazehen | had to purge twince.. | 17:45 |
Kilos | good luck Golynx | 17:45 |
Golynx | Kilos ty | 17:45 |
charl_ | theblazehen: bah :( | 17:45 |
charl_ | if first time fails simply try again | 17:46 |
charl_ | :D | 17:46 |
theblazehen | Wow.. /me found a great dubstep artist. Them bass lines.. | 17:48 |
theblazehen | <3 | 17:48 |
charl_ | don't keep it for yourself :P | 17:49 |
charl_ | share ! | 17:49 |
theblazehen | lol, its Vaski | 17:51 |
theblazehen | Search on soundcloud | 17:51 |
theblazehen | Listen to the Gateway mix :D | 17:51 |
charl_ | haha :D | 17:54 |
charl_ | too much dubstep for me | 17:54 |
theblazehen | lol | 17:54 |
charl_ | this is more my type of thing https://soundcloud.com/dilemn | 17:55 |
theblazehen | Thats your username? | 17:55 |
charl_ | he did some stuff like https://soundcloud.com/dilemn/bluescreens-undercover-dilemn which is pretty good | 17:55 |
theblazehen | ah | 17:55 |
charl_ | no it's a french guy | 17:55 |
theblazehen | Gonna give it a listen now | 17:56 |
theblazehen | charl_: You ever listen to edIT or the glitch mob? | 17:56 |
theblazehen | I enjoy them as well. | 17:56 |
charl_ | nope don't know them | 17:56 |
charl_ | i'll look them up | 17:56 |
theblazehen | groupadd -g 5000 vmail | 17:57 |
theblazehen | oops | 17:57 |
theblazehen | guess you can figure out what I'm doing... | 17:57 |
charl_ | something related to email ? | 17:58 |
theblazehen | charl_: dilemn is quite nice.. | 17:58 |
theblazehen | and yeah | 17:58 |
charl_ | that wasn't much of a guess :P | 17:59 |
Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 18:08 |
theblazehen | Anyone got a tar of /etc/dovecot I can have? | 18:25 |
charl_ | sorry, haven't used dovecot in like 10 years | 18:26 |
charl_ | i ran a small imaps server under my desk back in 2005 i think | 18:26 |
theblazehen | Thought it might come anyway on blank ubuntu install | 18:29 |
theblazehen | Turns out the purge didn't purge dependencies or something | 18:29 |
theblazehen | yeah, all good now | 18:30 |
charl_ | no those config files in /etc gets made when you install the package | 18:59 |
charl_ | the setup scripts | 18:59 |
charl_ | otherwise every ubuntu install would have tons of nonsense lying in /etc/ | 18:59 |
theblazehen | yeah, I thought so | 19:01 |
theblazehen | But thought maybe this way special somehow | 19:01 |
theblazehen | "Since Nginx does not contain native PHP processing like some other web browsers, " wut | 19:21 |
Gremble | isn't nginx a webserver? | 19:32 |
Gremble | Yes, it is a webserver | 19:32 |
theblazehen | yeah, server not browser | 19:56 |
theblazehen | Tutorial dun goofed | 19:56 |
Gremble | Also, I am pretty sure that nginx would process php, otherwise it wouldnt be really useful | 19:59 |
theblazehen | yeah, through fpm | 19:59 |
Gremble | Because browsers most certainly don't process php | 19:59 |
theblazehen | yeah, thats the point | 20:03 |
Gremble | Good. I tend to run around and miss points. So I am glad I caught this one | 20:05 |
theblazehen | lol | 20:05 |
kbmonkey | Hallo | 20:57 |
superfly | Maaz: tell Kilos plastic and paper won't work. we need wool. try not to slaughter too many sheep... | 22:23 |
Maaz | superfly: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode | 22:23 |
kbmonkey | you folks minetesting? :) | 22:30 |
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