[05:56] <Kilos> morning all
[08:32] <Kilos> hi trix Gremble 
[08:34] <Gremble> Hey Kilos 
[08:39] <Kilos> hi Golynx_ 
[08:40] <Golynx_> hi Kilos
[08:41] <Golynx_> the great search begins :/
[08:41] <Kilos> search for?
[08:42] <Golynx_> a way to force install older backed up packages
[08:44] <Kilos> just trysomething
[08:44] <Kilos> type in deja-dup and see what shows
[08:44] <Kilos> oh you got no dash
[08:45] <Kilos> in terminal sudo deja-dup
[08:46] <Kilos> pity you didnt use it for the backup. it remembers installed stuff and all settings etc
[08:46] <Golynx_> you must specify a mode
[08:46] <Golynx_> hmm
[08:47] <Kilos> when making a backup with it you choose local folder and give a path
[08:47] <Golynx_> too late now lol
[08:47] <Kilos> otherwise it wants to backup inna sky
[08:47] <Kilos> im sure that would have installed everything you had installed
[08:48] <Kilos> what specific package do you want to install Golynx_ ?
[08:48] <Kilos> another idea i have
[08:49] <Kilos> do you have gdebi installed
[08:49] <Golynx_> i used gdebi to install the graphics drivers then activated it, but all the other stuff got many other files included that wont be picked up
[08:50] <Golynx_> if i use gdebi it will ask to download the rest of the package files
[08:50] <Kilos> oh you tried gdebi
[08:50] <Kilos> see what they are then install them too first with gdebi
[08:50] <Golynx_> ya only foe the graphics drivers it worked
[08:50] <Golynx_> for*
[08:51] <Kilos> it will show what dependancies are missing them you install them from archives forst with gdebi
[08:51] <Kilos> first
[08:51] <Golynx_> gdebi wont include the rest of the files when choosing a package file, it just wana download them
[08:52] <Kilos> im sure it showed somewhere what files werte needed
[08:52] <Kilos> were
[08:52] <Golynx_> ya it did show the needed files
[08:53] <charl_> good morning Golynx_, Kilos 
[08:53] <Golynx_> but where to put them for gdebi to detect them
[08:53] <Kilos> then install them manually first
[08:53] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[08:53]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[08:53] <Kilos> hi charl_ 
[08:53] <charl_> how's it going Kilos 
[08:53] <Golynx_> hi charl_
[08:53] <Kilos> install them not put them somewhere
[08:53] <Kilos> good ty charl_ 
[08:53] <Kilos> and you?
[08:54] <Golynx_> can you install them one at a time 
[08:54] <Kilos> Golynx_, you have rsynced them to archives right?
[08:54] <Kilos> yes
[08:54] <Golynx_> yes
[08:54] <Kilos> go to archives and right click install with gdebi
[08:54] <Golynx_> ok
[08:55] <Kilos>   /var/cache/apt/archives/
[08:56] <Golynx_> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable
[08:56] <charl_> Kilos: i'm good
[08:56] <Golynx_> i used it with apache2 , its got a ton of files
[08:56] <Kilos> lol
[08:57] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[08:57] <Kilos> i installed a whole ubuntu like that once
[08:57] <Kilos> took 2 days
[08:57] <Kilos> find each dependancy and manually install
[08:59] <Kilos> Golynx_, did you run sudo apt-get update after rsyncing?
[08:59] <Golynx_> hmm its not showing the dependencies included in the archives
[08:59] <Golynx_> for rsyncing ?
[09:00] <Kilos> update looks online and in archives for what is there
[09:00] <Golynx_> oh ya i did
[09:00] <Kilos> everytime you add anything to archives you gotta update
[09:00] <Golynx_> but even before that it showed older versions of what i had backed up
[09:02] <Golynx_> gdebi is not listing all the files
[09:02] <Golynx_> it just shows a bunch of folders not created yet ai
[09:02] <Kilos> go through the dependancies one at a time skippig those it gives errors with then come back to them when all others are installed
[09:03] <Kilos> often they rely on each other for stuff
[09:04] <Kilos> did you run sudo apt-get upgrade after sudo apt-get update after installing?
[09:04] <Golynx_> can i use Synaptic to highlight the dependencies needed by the program then use that rather for finding what i need from the other version 
[09:04] <Kilos> that first upgrade is important
[09:05] <Golynx_> nope
[09:05] <Kilos> there is your prob
[09:05] <Kilos> we been this road before
[09:07] <Golynx_> it will wana upgrade new stuff anyways , stuff i dont want
[09:07] <Kilos> see how much it wants to download man
[09:08] <Kilos> it will use what you have in archives and add what else is needed and give you option y/n to carry on
[09:08] <Kilos> you can make a good working ubuntu without that first upgrade
[09:08] <Kilos> cant
[09:09] <Golynx_> 422,1 MB
[09:09] <Kilos> eish
[09:09] <Kilos> are you sure you rsynced properly
[09:10] <Kilos> check /var/cache/apt/archives/ size and check the folder you synced froms size
[09:10] <Golynx_> ya i did sudo rsync -av ~/Desktop/precise/ /var/cache/apt/archives/ 
[09:11] <Golynx_> its 422 MB
[09:12] <Kilos> did you tell synaptic to save downloaded packages in archives
[09:12] <Kilos> otherwise they gone on reboot
[09:12] <Golynx_> no 342 MB 
[09:12] <Golynx_> i didnt download any packages
[09:13] <Kilos> man the saving is for saving everything in archives
[09:13] <Kilos> it just shows as downloaded packages
[09:14] <Golynx_> ai, a few weeks of windows and i forget all i learned in ubuntu lol
[09:16] <Kilos> and come make my head hurt again
[09:16] <Kilos> whew
[09:16] <Golynx_> lol
[09:19] <Golynx_> i can still choose the stuff i dont wana upgrade, so thats fine
[09:19] <Golynx_> just installing the stuff i need is the headache now
[09:24] <Kilos> just dont choose to not upgrade important stuff like you did last time
[09:24] <Kilos> i cant go that route again
[09:24] <Golynx_> ya sure
[09:24] <Kilos> you cant run just the stuff you need successfully without the first upgrade
[09:25] <Golynx_> does apt have an offline installer thing that will add all the dependencies of the package in the same folder
[09:26] <Kilos> if it sees them in archives yes
[09:26] <Kilos> did you check your archives size and the backup folders size
[09:27] <Golynx_> apt-get always wana connect to the internet
[09:27] <Kilos> yes thats where it sees what is available and compares to what you have in archives
[09:28] <Golynx_> ya backup folder is 334 MB and archives 342 MB
[09:28] <Kilos> can a couple of weeks on windows cause this much damage or have you fallen on your head as well
[09:28] <Kilos> ok so then gdebi should be able to install things
[09:29] <Golynx_> its the cold i guess, lots of snow here lol
[09:29] <Golynx_> brain freeze :D
[09:29] <Kilos> does synaptic show the older stuff with a mark to show its upgradeable?
[09:30] <Golynx_> nope Synaptic only shows latest versions
[09:30] <Golynx_> or stuff available for download
[09:30] <Kilos> then gdebi it is for you
[09:30] <Kilos> saynaptic also looks in archives
[09:31] <Kilos> you hit the reload button i think its called
[09:31] <Kilos> thats same as apt-get update
[09:31] <Golynx_> so if i install a package and a few of its dependencies with gdebi, then it will override the synaptic version ?
[09:33] <Kilos> yes
[09:33] <Golynx_> so if a few dependencies are missing then synaptic should try to fetch them
[09:33] <Kilos> it will say a later version is available online but close that and install
[09:33] <Kilos> you can even do it all offline
[09:34] <Golynx_> i tried that with gdebi while offline but it wants to connect to the internet to get the dependencies
[09:36] <Kilos> i told you just now to then install the dependancies separately with gdebi then go back to what wanted them
[09:36] <Golynx_> what about apt-offline ?
[09:36] <Kilos> sjoe man
[09:37] <Kilos> you know more about that than me
[09:37] <Golynx_> ok 
[12:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: you there?
[12:22] <Kilos> yessir that
[12:22] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, as well
[12:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://i.imgur.com/9hNpLTC.png
[12:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> life is good at -266 :-p
[12:24] <Kilos> ya thats a good catch. you selling them?
[12:24] <Kilos> hehe
[12:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[12:24] <Kilos> well see who gets the cat first
[12:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> i haven't mined them yet, looks to pretty
[12:25] <Kilos> dunno what you supposed to do with it anyway
[12:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> come see if you are bored sometime
[12:25] <Kilos> lemme come see
[12:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> go to the pyramid so long
[12:25] <Kilos> i am at the mine
[12:26] <Kilos> are you at the pyramid
[12:26] <Kilos> if you not there i cant find it
[12:26] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, ?
[12:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm at the mine under my pyramid
[12:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'll come get you are you close to the pyramid?
[15:32] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:14] <Kilos> hi psychicist 
[16:41] <Kilos> Maaz, hi
[16:41] <Maaz> Howzit Kilos
[16:41] <Kilos> ah we still online
[16:42] <Kilos> what a silent bunch on a saterday night
[16:59] <charl_> hi psychicist 
[17:00] <charl_> hi Kilos 
[17:18] <charl_> hi theblazehen 
[17:19] <theblazehen> hi charl_ 
[17:25] <Kilos> hi charl_ theblazehen 
[17:25] <Kilos> psychicist, not talking
[17:29] <Golynx> oh my, mu ubuntu is dead :/
[17:29] <Golynx> my*
[17:30] <Golynx> and i can never get it back again
[17:30] <charl_> hi Golynx 
[17:30] <charl_> reinstall ?
[17:30] <Kilos> what did you do now?
[17:31] <Golynx> it wont detect the graphics card anymore
[17:31] <Golynx> when i try to enter it just shuts down the pc
[17:31] <Kilos> so its dead? you mean black screen
[17:31] <Golynx> only windows works
[17:32] <Kilos> ask charl_ for commands to set your resolution smaller
[17:32] <Kilos> then you ctrl+alt+f3 and then use commands
[17:32] <Golynx> it gives options to use other graphics, i choose it then it shuts down the pc
[17:33] <Kilos> oh so you see the grub menu
[17:33] <Kilos> to choose win or ubuntu
[17:33] <Golynx> ya, i can only boot into windows
[17:33] <Kilos> do you see recovery mode
[17:34] <Kilos> or boot from command line
[17:34] <Golynx> plus my lappies charger pin is extremely hot, i dont know what will happen
[17:34] <Kilos> boot to command line
[17:34] <Kilos> what did you do before you rebooted
[17:34] <Kilos> it was working
[17:35] <Golynx> no matter what i do it just shuts down  when choosing ubuntu
[17:35] <Kilos> then a reinstall is all option
[17:35] <Kilos> you can fix win with ubuntu but not vice-versa
[17:36] <Golynx> i dont know , the charger pin gets extremely hot when i'm in ubuntu too
[17:36] <Kilos> you broke something with whatever you were doing
[17:37] <Golynx> i installed all the packages from archives backup
[17:37] <Kilos> how good is the battery?
[17:37] <Kilos> charger is there to charge battery not run pc
[17:37] <Kilos> charl_, help him man
[17:38] <Golynx> i think the charging jack is broken or something and need a new one
[17:38] <charl_> i'm watching a show... ok lemme read... one sec
[17:38] <Kilos> i asked how good is the battery
[17:38] <Golynx> its at 50% not charging
[17:39] <Kilos> can you boot into win with charger unplugged
[17:39] <Golynx> yes
[17:39] <charl_> hmmm sounds bad
[17:39] <theblazehen> hi Kilos 
[17:39] <Kilos> ok and if you shutdown everything does it show charging?
[17:39] <charl_> you can set the resolution using xrandr but it won't help much if there is a problem with the graphics card
[17:40] <charl_> but it's very strange that you can still then boot into windows normally
[17:40] <Golynx> all the temperatures in the lappy is normal 50 degrees and the charging block is cool , only the pin of the charger is so very hot 
[17:40] <charl_> never had that before myself, sounds like some very strange contact problem
[17:41] <charl_> is it only in the plug, the socket, or both ?
[17:41] <charl_> by pin i assume you mean the contact
[17:42] <Golynx> charl_ yes the pin of the charger that plugs into the jack in the lappy
[17:42] <charl_> the only suggestion i can make is that dirt somehow managed to get into the contact
[17:42] <charl_> into the jack as you call it
[17:42] <Golynx> i cant even touch there my finger still hurting
[17:42] <charl_> whow ok no then there is a major problem
[17:42] <theblazehen> Need someone good with apt here..
[17:42] <charl_> that is not normal
[17:42] <charl_> theblazehen: what are you trying to do with apt ?
[17:43] <theblazehen> rm'd /etc/{dovecot,postfix} before I unintalled them
[17:43] <theblazehen> apt-get purge gave problems, so I recreated those folders
[17:43] <theblazehen> Purge worked fine, however installing mail-stack-delivery now says it cant find my private key
[17:43] <charl_> rather try to dpkg-reconfigure intead
[17:44] <Golynx> theblazehen i think i need to solve the charger jack issue first before attempting to install ubuntu again
[17:44] <theblazehen> Golynx: yeah, ok
[17:44] <Golynx> ty guys i will look for a solution
[17:44] <charl_> sounds logical
[17:44] <charl_> best of luck !!!
[17:45] <theblazehen> charl_: nvm, fixed it
[17:45] <Golynx> charl_ ty
[17:45] <charl_> theblazehen: great :)
[17:45] <theblazehen> had to purge twince..
[17:45] <Kilos> good luck Golynx 
[17:45] <Golynx> Kilos ty
[17:45] <charl_> theblazehen: bah :(
[17:46] <charl_> if first time fails simply try again
[17:46] <charl_> :D
[17:48] <theblazehen> Wow.. /me found a great dubstep artist. Them bass lines..
[17:48] <theblazehen> <3
[17:49] <charl_> don't keep it for yourself :P
[17:49] <charl_> share !
[17:51] <theblazehen> lol, its Vaski
[17:51] <theblazehen> Search on soundcloud
[17:51] <theblazehen> Listen to the Gateway mix :D
[17:54] <charl_> haha :D
[17:54] <charl_> too much dubstep for me
[17:54] <theblazehen> lol
[17:55] <charl_> this is more my type of thing https://soundcloud.com/dilemn
[17:55] <theblazehen> Thats your username?
[17:55] <charl_> he did some stuff like https://soundcloud.com/dilemn/bluescreens-undercover-dilemn which is pretty good
[17:55] <theblazehen> ah
[17:55] <charl_> no it's a french guy
[17:56] <theblazehen> Gonna give it a listen now
[17:56] <theblazehen> charl_: You ever listen to edIT or the glitch mob? 
[17:56] <theblazehen> I enjoy them as well. 
[17:56] <charl_> nope don't know them
[17:56] <charl_> i'll look them up
[17:57] <theblazehen> groupadd -g 5000 vmail
[17:57] <theblazehen> oops
[17:57] <theblazehen> guess you can figure out what I'm doing...
[17:58] <charl_> something related to email ?
[17:58] <theblazehen> charl_: dilemn is quite nice..
[17:58] <theblazehen> and yeah
[17:59] <charl_> that wasn't much of a guess :P
[18:08] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:25] <theblazehen> Anyone got a tar of /etc/dovecot I can have?
[18:26] <charl_> sorry, haven't used dovecot in like 10 years
[18:26] <charl_> i ran a small imaps server under my desk back in 2005 i think
[18:29] <theblazehen> Thought it might come anyway on blank ubuntu install
[18:29] <theblazehen> Turns out the purge didn't purge dependencies or something
[18:30] <theblazehen> yeah, all good now
[18:59] <charl_> no those config files in /etc gets made when you install the package
[18:59] <charl_> the setup scripts
[18:59] <charl_> otherwise every ubuntu install would have tons of nonsense lying in /etc/
[19:01] <theblazehen> yeah, I thought so
[19:01] <theblazehen> But thought maybe this way special somehow
[19:21] <theblazehen> "Since Nginx does not contain native PHP processing like some other web browsers, " wut
[19:32] <Gremble> isn't nginx a webserver?
[19:32] <Gremble> Yes, it is a webserver
[19:56] <theblazehen> yeah, server not browser
[19:56] <theblazehen> Tutorial dun goofed
[19:59] <Gremble> Also, I am pretty sure that nginx would process php, otherwise it wouldnt be really useful
[19:59] <theblazehen> yeah, through fpm
[19:59] <Gremble> Because browsers most certainly don't process php
[20:03] <theblazehen> yeah, thats the point
[20:05] <Gremble> Good. I tend to run around and miss points. So I am glad I caught this one
[20:05] <theblazehen> lol
[20:57] <kbmonkey> Hallo
[22:23] <superfly> Maaz: tell Kilos plastic and paper won't work. we need wool. try not to slaughter too many sheep...
[22:23] <Maaz> superfly: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[22:30] <kbmonkey> you folks minetesting? :)