[05:56] morning all [08:32] hi trix Gremble [08:34] Hey Kilos [08:39] hi Golynx_ [08:40] hi Kilos [08:41] the great search begins :/ [08:41] search for? [08:42] a way to force install older backed up packages [08:44] just trysomething [08:44] type in deja-dup and see what shows [08:44] oh you got no dash [08:45] in terminal sudo deja-dup [08:46] pity you didnt use it for the backup. it remembers installed stuff and all settings etc [08:46] you must specify a mode [08:46] hmm [08:47] when making a backup with it you choose local folder and give a path [08:47] too late now lol [08:47] otherwise it wants to backup inna sky [08:47] im sure that would have installed everything you had installed [08:48] what specific package do you want to install Golynx_ ? [08:48] another idea i have [08:49] do you have gdebi installed [08:49] i used gdebi to install the graphics drivers then activated it, but all the other stuff got many other files included that wont be picked up [08:50] if i use gdebi it will ask to download the rest of the package files [08:50] oh you tried gdebi [08:50] see what they are then install them too first with gdebi [08:50] ya only foe the graphics drivers it worked [08:50] for* [08:51] it will show what dependancies are missing them you install them from archives forst with gdebi [08:51] first [08:51] gdebi wont include the rest of the files when choosing a package file, it just wana download them [08:52] im sure it showed somewhere what files werte needed [08:52] were [08:52] ya it did show the needed files [08:53] good morning Golynx_, Kilos [08:53] but where to put them for gdebi to detect them [08:53] then install them manually first [08:53] Maaz: coffee on [08:53] * Maaz puts the kettle on [08:53] hi charl_ [08:53] how's it going Kilos [08:53] hi charl_ [08:53] install them not put them somewhere [08:53] good ty charl_ [08:53] and you? [08:54] can you install them one at a time [08:54] Golynx_, you have rsynced them to archives right? [08:54] yes [08:54] yes [08:54] go to archives and right click install with gdebi [08:54] ok [08:55] /var/cache/apt/archives/ [08:56] Error: Dependency is not satisfiable [08:56] Kilos: i'm good [08:56] i used it with apache2 , its got a ton of files [08:56] lol [08:57] Coffee's ready for charl_! [08:57] i installed a whole ubuntu like that once [08:57] took 2 days [08:57] find each dependancy and manually install [08:59] Golynx_, did you run sudo apt-get update after rsyncing? [08:59] hmm its not showing the dependencies included in the archives [08:59] for rsyncing ? [09:00] update looks online and in archives for what is there [09:00] oh ya i did [09:00] everytime you add anything to archives you gotta update [09:00] but even before that it showed older versions of what i had backed up [09:02] gdebi is not listing all the files [09:02] it just shows a bunch of folders not created yet ai [09:02] go through the dependancies one at a time skippig those it gives errors with then come back to them when all others are installed [09:03] often they rely on each other for stuff [09:04] did you run sudo apt-get upgrade after sudo apt-get update after installing? [09:04] can i use Synaptic to highlight the dependencies needed by the program then use that rather for finding what i need from the other version [09:04] that first upgrade is important [09:05] nope [09:05] there is your prob [09:05] we been this road before [09:07] it will wana upgrade new stuff anyways , stuff i dont want [09:07] see how much it wants to download man [09:08] it will use what you have in archives and add what else is needed and give you option y/n to carry on [09:08] you can make a good working ubuntu without that first upgrade [09:08] cant [09:09] 422,1 MB [09:09] eish [09:09] are you sure you rsynced properly [09:10] check /var/cache/apt/archives/ size and check the folder you synced froms size [09:10] ya i did sudo rsync -av ~/Desktop/precise/ /var/cache/apt/archives/ [09:11] its 422 MB [09:12] did you tell synaptic to save downloaded packages in archives [09:12] otherwise they gone on reboot [09:12] no 342 MB [09:12] i didnt download any packages [09:13] man the saving is for saving everything in archives [09:13] it just shows as downloaded packages [09:14] ai, a few weeks of windows and i forget all i learned in ubuntu lol [09:16] and come make my head hurt again [09:16] whew [09:16] lol [09:19] i can still choose the stuff i dont wana upgrade, so thats fine [09:19] just installing the stuff i need is the headache now [09:24] just dont choose to not upgrade important stuff like you did last time [09:24] i cant go that route again [09:24] ya sure [09:24] you cant run just the stuff you need successfully without the first upgrade [09:25] does apt have an offline installer thing that will add all the dependencies of the package in the same folder [09:26] if it sees them in archives yes [09:26] did you check your archives size and the backup folders size [09:27] apt-get always wana connect to the internet [09:27] yes thats where it sees what is available and compares to what you have in archives [09:28] ya backup folder is 334 MB and archives 342 MB [09:28] can a couple of weeks on windows cause this much damage or have you fallen on your head as well [09:28] ok so then gdebi should be able to install things [09:29] its the cold i guess, lots of snow here lol [09:29] brain freeze :D [09:29] does synaptic show the older stuff with a mark to show its upgradeable? [09:30] nope Synaptic only shows latest versions [09:30] or stuff available for download [09:30] then gdebi it is for you [09:30] saynaptic also looks in archives [09:31] you hit the reload button i think its called [09:31] thats same as apt-get update [09:31] so if i install a package and a few of its dependencies with gdebi, then it will override the synaptic version ? [09:33] yes [09:33] so if a few dependencies are missing then synaptic should try to fetch them [09:33] it will say a later version is available online but close that and install [09:33] you can even do it all offline [09:34] i tried that with gdebi while offline but it wants to connect to the internet to get the dependencies [09:36] i told you just now to then install the dependancies separately with gdebi then go back to what wanted them [09:36] what about apt-offline ? [09:36] sjoe man [09:37] you know more about that than me [09:37] ok [12:19] Kilos: you there? [12:22] yessir that [12:22] ThatGraemeGuy, as well [12:22] http://i.imgur.com/9hNpLTC.png [12:23] life is good at -266 :-p [12:24] ya thats a good catch. you selling them? [12:24] hehe [12:24] lol [12:24] well see who gets the cat first [12:25] i haven't mined them yet, looks to pretty [12:25] dunno what you supposed to do with it anyway [12:25] come see if you are bored sometime [12:25] lemme come see [12:25] go to the pyramid so long [12:25] i am at the mine [12:26] are you at the pyramid [12:26] if you not there i cant find it [12:26] ThatGraemeGuy, ? [12:26] i'm at the mine under my pyramid [12:27] i'll come get you are you close to the pyramid? [15:32] hmm... [16:14] hi psychicist [16:41] Maaz, hi [16:41] Howzit Kilos [16:41] ah we still online [16:42] what a silent bunch on a saterday night [16:59] hi psychicist [17:00] hi Kilos [17:18] hi theblazehen [17:19] hi charl_ [17:25] hi charl_ theblazehen [17:25] psychicist, not talking [17:29] oh my, mu ubuntu is dead :/ [17:29] my* [17:30] and i can never get it back again [17:30] hi Golynx [17:30] reinstall ? [17:30] what did you do now? [17:31] it wont detect the graphics card anymore [17:31] when i try to enter it just shuts down the pc [17:31] so its dead? you mean black screen [17:31] only windows works [17:32] ask charl_ for commands to set your resolution smaller [17:32] then you ctrl+alt+f3 and then use commands [17:32] it gives options to use other graphics, i choose it then it shuts down the pc [17:33] oh so you see the grub menu [17:33] to choose win or ubuntu [17:33] ya, i can only boot into windows [17:33] do you see recovery mode [17:34] or boot from command line [17:34] plus my lappies charger pin is extremely hot, i dont know what will happen [17:34] boot to command line [17:34] what did you do before you rebooted [17:34] it was working [17:35] no matter what i do it just shuts down when choosing ubuntu [17:35] then a reinstall is all option [17:35] you can fix win with ubuntu but not vice-versa [17:36] i dont know , the charger pin gets extremely hot when i'm in ubuntu too [17:36] you broke something with whatever you were doing [17:37] i installed all the packages from archives backup [17:37] how good is the battery? [17:37] charger is there to charge battery not run pc [17:37] charl_, help him man [17:38] i think the charging jack is broken or something and need a new one [17:38] i'm watching a show... ok lemme read... one sec [17:38] i asked how good is the battery [17:38] its at 50% not charging [17:39] can you boot into win with charger unplugged [17:39] yes [17:39] hmmm sounds bad [17:39] hi Kilos [17:39] ok and if you shutdown everything does it show charging? [17:39] you can set the resolution using xrandr but it won't help much if there is a problem with the graphics card [17:40] but it's very strange that you can still then boot into windows normally [17:40] all the temperatures in the lappy is normal 50 degrees and the charging block is cool , only the pin of the charger is so very hot [17:40] never had that before myself, sounds like some very strange contact problem [17:41] is it only in the plug, the socket, or both ? [17:41] by pin i assume you mean the contact [17:42] charl_ yes the pin of the charger that plugs into the jack in the lappy [17:42] the only suggestion i can make is that dirt somehow managed to get into the contact [17:42] into the jack as you call it [17:42] i cant even touch there my finger still hurting [17:42] whow ok no then there is a major problem [17:42] Need someone good with apt here.. [17:42] that is not normal [17:42] theblazehen: what are you trying to do with apt ? [17:43] rm'd /etc/{dovecot,postfix} before I unintalled them [17:43] apt-get purge gave problems, so I recreated those folders [17:43] Purge worked fine, however installing mail-stack-delivery now says it cant find my private key [17:43] rather try to dpkg-reconfigure intead [17:44] theblazehen i think i need to solve the charger jack issue first before attempting to install ubuntu again [17:44] Golynx: yeah, ok [17:44] ty guys i will look for a solution [17:44] sounds logical [17:44] best of luck !!! [17:45] charl_: nvm, fixed it [17:45] charl_ ty [17:45] theblazehen: great :) [17:45] had to purge twince.. [17:45] good luck Golynx [17:45] Kilos ty [17:45] theblazehen: bah :( [17:46] if first time fails simply try again [17:46] :D [17:48] Wow.. /me found a great dubstep artist. Them bass lines.. [17:48] <3 [17:49] don't keep it for yourself :P [17:49] share ! [17:51] lol, its Vaski [17:51] Search on soundcloud [17:51] Listen to the Gateway mix :D [17:54] haha :D [17:54] too much dubstep for me [17:54] lol [17:55] this is more my type of thing https://soundcloud.com/dilemn [17:55] Thats your username? [17:55] he did some stuff like https://soundcloud.com/dilemn/bluescreens-undercover-dilemn which is pretty good [17:55] ah [17:55] no it's a french guy [17:56] Gonna give it a listen now [17:56] charl_: You ever listen to edIT or the glitch mob? [17:56] I enjoy them as well. [17:56] nope don't know them [17:56] i'll look them up [17:57] groupadd -g 5000 vmail [17:57] oops [17:57] guess you can figure out what I'm doing... [17:58] something related to email ? [17:58] charl_: dilemn is quite nice.. [17:58] and yeah [17:59] that wasn't much of a guess :P [18:08] night all. sleep tight [18:25] Anyone got a tar of /etc/dovecot I can have? [18:26] sorry, haven't used dovecot in like 10 years [18:26] i ran a small imaps server under my desk back in 2005 i think [18:29] Thought it might come anyway on blank ubuntu install [18:29] Turns out the purge didn't purge dependencies or something [18:30] yeah, all good now [18:59] no those config files in /etc gets made when you install the package [18:59] the setup scripts [18:59] otherwise every ubuntu install would have tons of nonsense lying in /etc/ [19:01] yeah, I thought so [19:01] But thought maybe this way special somehow [19:21] "Since Nginx does not contain native PHP processing like some other web browsers, " wut [19:32] isn't nginx a webserver? [19:32] Yes, it is a webserver [19:56] yeah, server not browser [19:56] Tutorial dun goofed [19:59] Also, I am pretty sure that nginx would process php, otherwise it wouldnt be really useful [19:59] yeah, through fpm [19:59] Because browsers most certainly don't process php [20:03] yeah, thats the point [20:05] Good. I tend to run around and miss points. So I am glad I caught this one [20:05] lol [20:57] Hallo [22:23] Maaz: tell Kilos plastic and paper won't work. we need wool. try not to slaughter too many sheep... [22:23] superfly: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [22:30] you folks minetesting? :)