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valorieno questions are stupid00:00
valoriehowever, your player may be able to play the file as-is00:00
valoriewhy not try?00:00
valorieparadoxajd: have you asked on the forum there, at opendesktop?00:01
paradoxajdno00:01
valoriebest to start there00:01
* valorie goes off to eat dinner00:01
paradoxajdok00:01
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cjaelordievader: fresh install doesnt come with it?07:53
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lordievadercjae: For as far as I know does Kubuntu not ship with ibus installed.08:58
lordievaderGood morning, btw.08:59
Guest15555hellooo;)09:02
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lordievaderHey Guest15555, how are you?09:14
amichairhi, does anyone know if the new skype 4.3 works with KDE native notifications (I see the option is disabled, dunno if it's just me)09:47
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Guest66080ciao10:06
Guest66080!list10:06
ubottuGuest66080: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».10:06
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esmobghi evry one10:15
esmobghi evry one10:16
lordievadero/10:16
esmobgi have  one qustchon10:16
lordievaderesmobg: Ask away ;)10:16
esmobgHello I want to ask where can I write to improve screen reader in KDE10:18
esmobgto many people with impaired vision to use Linux10:19
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cjaelordievader: k11:52
Manden_med_leenj11:53
cjael11:53
Manden_med_leenm11:54
cjaelordievader: passed memtest86+ lol11:54
lordievader?11:54
cjaegood memory haha11:56
BluesKajHiyas all11:57
Manden_med_leenThis is a very action packed chat room :-) Maybe that is because Kubuntu just works?12:01
Graf_WesterholtBluesKaj12:01
BluesKajhey Graf_Westerholt12:02
Graf_WesterholtManden_med_leen, no, it is because all are busy fixing the big bugs. ;)12:02
Manden_med_leenGraf_Westerholt: Okay :-)12:03
Graf_Westerholt:D12:03
lordievaderManden_med_leen: I allways like to believe that to be the reason :D12:10
hjghi jemaand hier13:49
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ravinduAny one know any good graphics cards for ubuntu 14.04 desktop?15:45
BluesKajnvidia cards mostly work , ati/amd are iffy on linux these days15:45
vostro;16:15
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penelope3Hi guys, I have got an old AMD Athlon 64bit processor here (3200+) with 1GB of RAM and would like to install Kubuntu on my machine. My question for this machine is: should I prefer the 64bit version of Kubuntu 14.04 or take the 32bit one, which is recommended on the website20:59
lordievader32bit is fine, you won't notice any difference until you upgrade to 4+Gb RAM.21:00
penelope3lordievader: but doesn't 64bit imply that more registers can be used, thus 64bit might be slightly faster?21:01
bprompt__penelope3:    I'd say yes21:03
lordievaderpenelope3: It would be slighly faster, yes. But you won't notice the difference.21:03
bprompt__1gb of ram... isn't much.. why not settle for 12.04 maybe? :)21:04
bprompt__or even some lighter21:05
bprompt__s/some/&thing/21:05
penelope3bprompt__: I installed Kubuntu 14.04 on my father's PC recently, and he was surprised how fast the system is compared to Windows Vista he had before. And I saw that around 600 MB was used by KDE, him having 2GB of RAM.21:06
penelope3the nice thing was he didn't even feel a big difference between the two, since I always told him to use free software even on Win3221:06
penelope3difference in usability i mean21:07
bprompt__well21:07
penelope3bprompt: maybe xubuntu might be the better choice, but I really like KDE.21:07
bprompt__he has 2gb of ram though :)   14.04 has more overhead as I can tell than 12.04, thus a 1gb will fare better with 12.04 than 14.04, but sure, both would run21:08
bprompt__penelope3:    I run kubuntu, but my window manager is LXDE21:08
lordievaderIf you don't do a lot of multitasking 1Gb should suffice.21:08
bprompt__yeap.... depends on usage21:09
lordievaderWell you can allways try. LXDE of XFCE is installed easily enough afterwards.21:09
bprompt__I run..... quite a few amount of windows, sometimes the browser with about 20 tabs21:09
penelope3bprompt__: what is the point in using Kubuntu but running another DE? aren't the other distros better suited for LXDE/XFCE/openbox21:10
bprompt__often times I should say =)21:10
bprompt__penelope3:     speed for window management... I do run kde apps, thus21:10
penelope3bprompt__: interesting, always thought that you need the KDE framework (kdelibs and so on) to run Kate and the likes21:11
lordievaderYou do.21:12
bprompt__penelope3:   you do, you just don't need the kde Desktop and Window Manager, kwin21:12
lordievaderSame for gtk, you need a lot of gtk libs to run them.21:12
bprompt__well21:12
penelope3bprompt__: do I need a lot of expert knowledge for that or can I choose to use another DE during Kubuntu installation?21:12
bprompt__I run gtk apps too.... they don't require that much space wise really21:12
lordievaderpenelope3: You can even choose another DE after installation, Linux is flexible.21:13
bprompt__penelope3:   nope, install kubuntu regular, then install LXWM window manager and if you want, also the LXDE desktop manager....  then you can pick the session to use "lxwm"21:14
penelope3bprompt__: nice, and then you can run Dolphin, Kate, and the other KDE SC applications with lxwm?21:14
penelope3bprompt__: would better fit my system then I guess, because I am afraid, if use firefox with a lot of tabs open, it will swap a lot, since 400 MB of free space for ff is probably not enough21:16
bprompt__penelope3:     sure, you can pretty much run whatever from whatever window manager, a long while ago I used to run SuSE 10.2    I think it was... and I had gnome and kde both installed, and in the window, you could choose what "desktop manager" to use, and at the login screen, what "window manager" to use.... and I ran gtk and kde apps just find, heck I even ran a few xfce apps too, all the while I was using iceWM window manager o21:17
bprompt__s/find/fine/21:17
penelope3bprompt__: this flexibility really is the nice thing about Linux, the freedom to choose whatever you want21:18
bprompt__yeap21:19
bprompt__at some point in SuSE I had about 5 window managers installed21:19
penelope3bprompt__: probably I will go best using btrfs with my old disk, making use of defragmentation, so it is not used to heavily, and instead my processor is used more21:19
penelope3s/defragmentation/compression ;)21:20
bprompt__hmmm     can't say I've experience much slowdown due to swap file access back then21:21
bprompt__if any it was the cpu or the gpu21:21
penelope3bprompt__: so with lxde your memory consumption is below 200 MB, I guess (on startup without any programs running)21:23
bprompt__penelope3:    using an ssd, makes a huge difference, speed wise21:23
bprompt__penelope3:    very low, yes...I....don't check, at least at startup.... I have 6gbs here ddr321:24
penelope3bprompt__: I know, but it is just a playground machine, it was the machine I assembled myself a long time ago, but I don't want to shred it.21:24
penelope3bprompt__: and since the motherbord does not support high speed rates, installing an SSD would probably not make much sense21:25
yofelit's not really speed rates, it's access time21:25
bprompt__penelope3:    is it a pata?   sata1?21:25
bprompt__I assume that's a PATA.... thus there's no ssd for it then =)21:26
penelope3is there a Linux command to check for the SATA standard supported by my mainboard? Running on sysresccd right now. wiping the drive...21:26
bprompt__but access time is a huge boost21:26
bprompt__opening a package the size of  libreoffice, takes me 1sec.... yes, is not a typo, 1 sec21:27
bprompt__penelope3:      maybe -> sudo lshw -C storage21:29
penelope3looks like SATA I21:34
penelope3so buying a cheap SSD for SATA I would make sense?21:34
bprompt__penelope3:    sure.... a cheapo 30gbs , yes21:38
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GermanMeatHowdy22:57
bpromptallo22:57
Folk247hola22:57
* bprompt puts on bbq sauce and bites GermanMeat 22:58
GermanMeatAnyone have luck using multi-touch with touchscreen? Using Asus X200 netbook22:58
GermanMeatTouch screen works out of box" but multi-touch on screen dows not22:58
GermanMeatbeen googling for days22:58
GermanMeatScreen Dim control also doesnt work22:59
GermanMeatAsus X200MA22:59
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