[00:00] <valorie> no questions are stupid
[00:00] <valorie> however, your player may be able to play the file as-is
[00:00] <valorie> why not try?
[00:01] <valorie> paradoxajd: have you asked on the forum there, at opendesktop?
[00:01] <paradoxajd> no
[00:01] <valorie> best to start there
[00:01]  * valorie goes off to eat dinner
[00:01] <paradoxajd> ok
[07:53] <cjae> lordievader: fresh install doesnt come with it?
[08:58] <lordievader> cjae: For as far as I know does Kubuntu not ship with ibus installed.
[08:59] <lordievader> Good morning, btw.
[09:02] <Guest15555> hellooo;)
[09:14] <lordievader> Hey Guest15555, how are you?
[09:47] <amichair> hi, does anyone know if the new skype 4.3 works with KDE native notifications (I see the option is disabled, dunno if it's just me)
[10:06] <Guest66080> ciao
[10:06] <Guest66080> !list
[10:15] <esmobg> hi evry one
[10:16] <esmobg> hi evry one
[10:16] <lordievader> o/
[10:16] <esmobg> i have  one qustchon
[10:16] <lordievader> esmobg: Ask away ;)
[10:18] <esmobg> Hello I want to ask where can I write to improve screen reader in KDE
[10:19] <esmobg> to many people with impaired vision to use Linux
[11:52] <cjae> lordievader: k
[11:53] <Manden_med_leen> j
[11:53] <cjae> l
[11:54] <Manden_med_leen> m
[11:54] <cjae> lordievader: passed memtest86+ lol
[11:54] <lordievader> ?
[11:56] <cjae> good memory haha
[11:57] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:01] <Manden_med_leen> This is a very action packed chat room :-) Maybe that is because Kubuntu just works?
[12:01] <Graf_Westerholt> BluesKaj
[12:02] <BluesKaj> hey Graf_Westerholt
[12:02] <Graf_Westerholt> Manden_med_leen, no, it is because all are busy fixing the big bugs. ;)
[12:03] <Manden_med_leen> Graf_Westerholt: Okay :-)
[12:03] <Graf_Westerholt> :D
[12:10] <lordievader> Manden_med_leen: I allways like to believe that to be the reason :D
[13:49] <hjg> hi jemaand hier
[15:45] <ravindu> Any one know any good graphics cards for ubuntu 14.04 desktop?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> nvidia cards mostly work , ati/amd are iffy on linux these days
[16:15] <vostro> ;
[20:59] <penelope3> Hi guys, I have got an old AMD Athlon 64bit processor here (3200+) with 1GB of RAM and would like to install Kubuntu on my machine. My question for this machine is: should I prefer the 64bit version of Kubuntu 14.04 or take the 32bit one, which is recommended on the website
[21:00] <lordievader> 32bit is fine, you won't notice any difference until you upgrade to 4+Gb RAM.
[21:01] <penelope3> lordievader: but doesn't 64bit imply that more registers can be used, thus 64bit might be slightly faster?
[21:03] <bprompt__> penelope3:    I'd say yes
[21:03] <lordievader> penelope3: It would be slighly faster, yes. But you won't notice the difference.
[21:04] <bprompt__> 1gb of ram... isn't much.. why not settle for 12.04 maybe? :)
[21:05] <bprompt__> or even some lighter
[21:05] <bprompt__> s/some/&thing/
[21:06] <penelope3> bprompt__: I installed Kubuntu 14.04 on my father's PC recently, and he was surprised how fast the system is compared to Windows Vista he had before. And I saw that around 600 MB was used by KDE, him having 2GB of RAM.
[21:06] <penelope3> the nice thing was he didn't even feel a big difference between the two, since I always told him to use free software even on Win32
[21:07] <penelope3> difference in usability i mean
[21:07] <bprompt__> well
[21:07] <penelope3> bprompt: maybe xubuntu might be the better choice, but I really like KDE.
[21:08] <bprompt__> he has 2gb of ram though :)   14.04 has more overhead as I can tell than 12.04, thus a 1gb will fare better with 12.04 than 14.04, but sure, both would run
[21:08] <bprompt__> penelope3:    I run kubuntu, but my window manager is LXDE
[21:08] <lordievader> If you don't do a lot of multitasking 1Gb should suffice.
[21:09] <bprompt__> yeap.... depends on usage
[21:09] <lordievader> Well you can allways try. LXDE of XFCE is installed easily enough afterwards.
[21:09] <bprompt__> I run..... quite a few amount of windows, sometimes the browser with about 20 tabs
[21:10] <penelope3> bprompt__: what is the point in using Kubuntu but running another DE? aren't the other distros better suited for LXDE/XFCE/openbox
[21:10] <bprompt__> often times I should say =)
[21:10] <bprompt__> penelope3:     speed for window management... I do run kde apps, thus
[21:11] <penelope3> bprompt__: interesting, always thought that you need the KDE framework (kdelibs and so on) to run Kate and the likes
[21:12] <lordievader> You do.
[21:12] <bprompt__> penelope3:   you do, you just don't need the kde Desktop and Window Manager, kwin
[21:12] <lordievader> Same for gtk, you need a lot of gtk libs to run them.
[21:12] <bprompt__> well
[21:12] <penelope3> bprompt__: do I need a lot of expert knowledge for that or can I choose to use another DE during Kubuntu installation?
[21:12] <bprompt__> I run gtk apps too.... they don't require that much space wise really
[21:13] <lordievader> penelope3: You can even choose another DE after installation, Linux is flexible.
[21:14] <bprompt__> penelope3:   nope, install kubuntu regular, then install LXWM window manager and if you want, also the LXDE desktop manager....  then you can pick the session to use "lxwm"
[21:14] <penelope3> bprompt__: nice, and then you can run Dolphin, Kate, and the other KDE SC applications with lxwm?
[21:16] <penelope3> bprompt__: would better fit my system then I guess, because I am afraid, if use firefox with a lot of tabs open, it will swap a lot, since 400 MB of free space for ff is probably not enough
[21:17] <bprompt__> penelope3:     sure, you can pretty much run whatever from whatever window manager, a long while ago I used to run SuSE 10.2    I think it was... and I had gnome and kde both installed, and in the window, you could choose what "desktop manager" to use, and at the login screen, what "window manager" to use.... and I ran gtk and kde apps just find, heck I even ran a few xfce apps too, all the while I was using iceWM window manager o
[21:17] <bprompt__> s/find/fine/
[21:18] <penelope3> bprompt__: this flexibility really is the nice thing about Linux, the freedom to choose whatever you want
[21:19] <bprompt__> yeap
[21:19] <bprompt__> at some point in SuSE I had about 5 window managers installed
[21:19] <penelope3> bprompt__: probably I will go best using btrfs with my old disk, making use of defragmentation, so it is not used to heavily, and instead my processor is used more
[21:20] <penelope3> s/defragmentation/compression ;)
[21:21] <bprompt__> hmmm     can't say I've experience much slowdown due to swap file access back then
[21:21] <bprompt__> if any it was the cpu or the gpu
[21:23] <penelope3> bprompt__: so with lxde your memory consumption is below 200 MB, I guess (on startup without any programs running)
[21:23] <bprompt__> penelope3:    using an ssd, makes a huge difference, speed wise
[21:24] <bprompt__> penelope3:    very low, yes...I....don't check, at least at startup.... I have 6gbs here ddr3
[21:24] <penelope3> bprompt__: I know, but it is just a playground machine, it was the machine I assembled myself a long time ago, but I don't want to shred it.
[21:25] <penelope3> bprompt__: and since the motherbord does not support high speed rates, installing an SSD would probably not make much sense
[21:25] <yofel> it's not really speed rates, it's access time
[21:25] <bprompt__> penelope3:    is it a pata?   sata1?
[21:26] <bprompt__> I assume that's a PATA.... thus there's no ssd for it then =)
[21:26] <penelope3> is there a Linux command to check for the SATA standard supported by my mainboard? Running on sysresccd right now. wiping the drive...
[21:26] <bprompt__> but access time is a huge boost
[21:27] <bprompt__> opening a package the size of  libreoffice, takes me 1sec.... yes, is not a typo, 1 sec
[21:29] <bprompt__> penelope3:      maybe -> sudo lshw -C storage
[21:34] <penelope3> looks like SATA I
[21:34] <penelope3> so buying a cheap SSD for SATA I would make sense?
[21:38] <bprompt__> penelope3:    sure.... a cheapo 30gbs , yes
[22:57] <GermanMeat> Howdy
[22:57] <bprompt> allo
[22:57] <Folk247> hola
[22:58]  * bprompt puts on bbq sauce and bites GermanMeat 
[22:58] <GermanMeat> Anyone have luck using multi-touch with touchscreen? Using Asus X200 netbook
[22:58] <GermanMeat> Touch screen works out of box" but multi-touch on screen dows not
[22:58] <GermanMeat> been googling for days
[22:59] <GermanMeat> Screen Dim control also doesnt work
[22:59] <GermanMeat> Asus X200MA