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hjdI wonder why http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/efl.html is not in Ubuntu. I didn't find it listed in the sync blacklist.10:54
ogra_`hjd, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/efl ... seems it didnt build on all arches11:02
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cjwatsonhjd: should be heading into the archive nowish; it wasn't synced earlier IIRC because it overwrote some Ubuntu-modified binaries elsewhere and so required manual attention13:36
mitya57Hmm, can somebody explain me why xserver-xorg-video-openchrome-lts-saucy precise upload (which I just sponsored) is in NEW?13:39
cjwatsonLP's ancestry calculation is buggy for things introduced post-release13:47
cjwatsonMakes little practical difference though whether it's in NEW or UNAPPROVED13:48
mitya57Thanks cjwatson.13:52
hjdogra_`: cjwatson: Ok, I see.13:54
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andrewrkhow does one get a package to go from "proposed" to accepted in the next release?16:46
cjwatsonandrewrk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration is probably what you're looking for16:52
cjwatsonandrewrk: What package?16:52
andrewrkcjohnston, I'm looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/libgroove  but I realized that the answer is probably because it is waiting for libav10.116:52
cjwatsonandrewrk: Yes, that's right, it's in that very large cluster16:54
andrewrkis anything blocking libav10, by the way?16:54
cjwatsonYes, a ton of stuff16:54
cjwatsonIf nothing were blocking it it would go in automatically16:55
cjwatsonhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/libav10.html16:55
andrewrkwhy does this look so different than https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/libav10.html ?16:56
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cjwatsonandrewrk: Various reasons; in some cases we may just need no-change rebuilds; in some cases we have Ubuntu deltas that need merging; in some cases the package fails to build in Ubuntu and doesn't in Debian for some reason unrelated to libav; in some cases we may have fixed something in Ubuntu and forwarded the change to Debian but it hasn't been applied there yet16:57
cjwatsonAll the usual things16:57
andrewrkah interesting16:58
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andrewrkit seems like there's nothing else to do on that transition, and we're pretty much waiting on package maintainers to upload new versions17:30
cjwatsonThose are contradictory :-)17:31
cjwatsonThere's plenty left to do on that transition, exactly involving uploading fixes ...17:31
andrewrkbut I think all the fixes have been coded17:33
andrewrke.g. no mysteries left, just waiting for some chores17:34
cjwatsonThat's not at all obvious17:34
andrewrkI may very well be misunderstanding the situation. Here's one thing I'm looking at: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=739079  at the bottom it says the debian transition is at 100% and all that is left is to remove old libraries from testing17:35
ubottuDebian bug 739079 in release.debian.org "transition: libav10" [Normal,Open]17:35
cjwatsonI just fixed renpy, for example, which was not a matter of uploading a new upstream version17:35
andrewrkah17:35
cjwatsonYou're misunderstanding the situation17:35
cjwatsonDebian and Ubuntu aren't the same17:35
cjwatsonAnd it doesn't always follow that if Debian has ported everything that that means Ubuntu only has chores left to do17:35
cjwatsonAnyway, it's more productive for me to fix things than to argue about semantics, I guess :)17:36
andrewrkyes, apologies17:36
andrewrkreally, I'm just excited that progress is being made, thanks for your contributions to the effort.17:37
cjwatsonvtk isn't obvious either, hmm17:37
cjwatsonPossibly a link order issue, but unfortunately cmake is not very verbose here17:37
andrewrkmake VERBOSE=1  ?17:38
cjwatsonYeah, just not in the packaging17:38
andrewrkah17:38
cjwatsonI'll poke it locally17:38
cjwatsonlibav is often a case where Ubuntu requires more work than Debian because for historical reasons we have a chunk of extra multimedia-related packages which haven't tended to be excellently maintained17:39
andrewrkI see - Debian is removing things and Ubuntu continues to support them?17:39
cjwatsonDebian never had them in the first place17:39
andrewrkah17:39
cjwatsonWe imported a load of stuff from debian-multimedia.org back in the day17:39
cjwatsonI thought it was a bad idea at the time but lost the argument :)17:40
cjwatsonI'll probably end up demoting some things to utopic-proposed (equivalent of removing from testing) that aren't fixed in Debian and are hard to fix, but I'd prefer to wait until everything else that can reasonably be done has been done17:43
andrewrkI'm wondering if libav10 is likely to make it into utopic17:45
cjwatsonYes17:45
cjwatsonPractically certain, we'll get it sorted17:45
andrewrkGlad to hear that :)17:45
cjwatsonIt would be far too painful for us to abort now17:45
cjwatsonAnd there's plenty of time17:45
andrewrkWell. DebianImportFreeze is August 7, which is my cutoff date for getting the package I'd like to see in Utopic into Debian Unstable17:46
cjwatsonSure, but (a) that's still plenty of time (b) that's not a cut-off date for finishing migrations from utopic-proposed to utopic17:47
andrewrkunderstood17:47
cjwatsonAll that means is that I turn off the auto-sync cron job on that date17:47
* andrewrk nods17:47
cjwatsonRiddell: Could you please merge opencv, or would you like me to do it?17:50
cjwatsonRiddell: (for libav)17:51
zygaanyone in Budapest today?17:56
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ari-tczewcan someone help with FTBFS? "dh_doxygen: Doxygen documentation not found"19:14
ari-tczewhowever, only i386 builds fine, the rest archs are FTBFS19:15
cjwatsonSuggests that something's in Build-Depends-Indep when it should be in Build-Depends19:18
ari-tczewcjwatson: there are no B-D-Indep :(19:21
jtaylorif dh_doxygen is like dh_sphinxdoc you must not call it during binary-arch19:28
Riddellcjwatson: I'll take a look21:34
ari-tczewjtaylor: dropping it from d/rules fixes FTBFS, thanks!21:45
ScottKari-tczew: Does dropping it from b-d mean the documentation doesn't get rebuild now?21:50
cjwatsonRiddell: ta22:10
ari-tczewScottK: it has not been dropped from b-d, merely from d/rules22:40
ScottKOK.  The question stands.22:40
cjwatsonThere's an "override_dh_sphinxdoc-arch:" (no rule content) idiom that's used in some dh_sphinxdoc packages22:41
ScottKThat would probably be better.22:43
jtaylorif its even the issue22:43
jtaylorI was just guessing, that sphinxdoc does not work in indep is probably just a bug22:43
infinityErm, that was fixed.22:54
infinityOh, sphinxdoc was fixed, dh_doxygen has the same bug?22:55
cjwatsonsiretart: Hm, shouldn't libavfilter-dev depend on the right -dev packages to match the Requires.private entry in its .pc file?23:13
cjwatsonsiretart: Seems odd that something that requires libavfilter apparently has to independently b-d on libavresample-dev ...23:13
cjwatsoninfinity: Could you merge xbmc for libav 10 support?  (Or let me know and I can do it)23:22
infinitycjwatson: Meh, my TIL was just a rebuild, go nuts. :P23:23
cjwatsoninfinity: OK, will do, thanks23:23
infinityThose weird "nexus7" patches sound a lot more like "armhf" patches.23:24

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