[10:38] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[13:07] <apachelogger> valorie: I updated the neon5 url to point to the neon5-latest.iso details page, should make it easier to find mirrors
[13:14] <ahoneybun> hello I'm testing project neon 5 and I cannot connect to a network it sees it and says I connected to it but it will no reconnect
[13:16] <ahoneybun> thinking about it now it might have to to do with kwallet
[13:33] <ahoneybun> phonon's vlc backup failed to start bug
[13:34] <ahoneybun> fixed the internet
[13:35] <shadeslayer_> ahoneybun: the plasma nm plasmoid is quite broken, might want to check bugs.kde.org
[13:35] <ahoneybun> seems I had to put the password for my network in
[13:35] <ahoneybun> no kwallet setup
[13:39] <ahoneybun> wow the linux mint kde torrent uploads a lot
[13:39] <ahoneybun> whois shadeslayer_
[13:39] <ahoneybun> woops
[13:40] <shadeslayer_> wuh
[13:40] <shadeslayer_> :P
[13:40] <ahoneybun> whois shadeslayer
[13:40] <shadeslayer> wuhhh
[13:40] <ahoneybun> seems this client does nothing with that command
[13:40] <shadeslayer> what magic are you using?
[13:40]  * ahoneybun is on windows 8.1
[13:40] <shadeslayer> what client?
[13:41] <ahoneybun> hydrairc
[13:41] <shadeslayer> no clue what that is, use quassel I guess
[13:41] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer, I have kubuntu 14.04 on my spare macbook with a neon 5 ppa on it for testing
[13:54] <shadeslayer> ahoneybun: cool
[13:54] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer, the download for the neon 5 iso was so slow
[13:54] <shadeslayer> too many people downloading it I guess
[13:55] <shadeslayer> use the metalinks thing that valorie suggested?
[13:56] <shadeslayer> ahoneybun: http://files.kde.org/snapshots/neon5-latest.iso.mirrorlist
[13:56] <shadeslayer> many mirrors, such awesome
[13:58] <shadeslayer> I'm getting a good 10MBps
[14:04] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer, so I can't use ppa?
[14:04] <shadeslayer> huh?
[14:04] <shadeslayer> sure you can
[14:04] <shadeslayer> why would you say you can't?
[14:09] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer, thought you were suggesting using the iso
[14:10] <shadeslayer> no, you said that the ISO download was slow, so I was replying to that
[14:14] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[14:53] <shadeslayer> ScottK: Riddell: apachelogger ok, I'm missing some info for sending the ISO requirements email, I've asked the plasma folks for more info, once I get it, I'll send out a email to ubuntu-release
[15:02] <Riddell> shadeslayer: which info?
[15:02] <shadeslayer> Riddell: whether or not plasma 5 will have bug fix releases between 5.x and 5.x+1
[15:02] <Riddell> hi toscalix, should you be looking for a new distro to install you know you'll always be welcome at kubuntu :)
[15:03] <shadeslayer> and what the release cadence will be
[15:03] <shadeslayer> because this isn't written down any where
[15:03] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ah.  "nobody knows" I think is the answer
[15:03] <Riddell> it's not been discussed
[15:03] <shadeslayer> Riddell: right, and I think it's time to discuss it
[15:03] <shadeslayer> because release is soonish
[15:03] <shadeslayer> ~2.5 weeks
[15:04] <Riddell> yes I agree, annoyingly the meeting this morning would have been good to discuss it
[15:04] <shadeslayer> yep
[15:04] <Riddell> but lets try the mailing list
[15:04] <shadeslayer> I emailed the ML :)
[15:06] <Riddell> a good first question is, what would kubuntu like plasma to do?
[15:06] <shadeslayer> Riddell: FWIW if they plan to do bug fix releases, then we should push for plasma 5 in the archive
[15:06] <shadeslayer> IMHO monthly bug fixing sounds like a good plan
[15:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: is all of 4.13.2 up?
[15:08] <Riddell> should be all uploaded
[15:08] <Riddell> some still stuck in -proposed
[15:09] <shadeslayer> looking
[15:12] <shadeslayer> Riddell: mind looking at some of the stuff?
[15:12] <shadeslayer> atleast the FTBFS ones
[15:15] <Riddell> on my todo
[15:16] <shadeslayer> cheers, Alpha 1 is this thursday
[15:17] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I hear you're moving here on Thursday, do you want me to take charge of release then?
[15:17] <Riddell> hmm, really, this thursday?
[15:17] <Riddell> hmm, yes
[15:18] <Riddell> would be good if you could drum up some testers and all that yes
[15:18] <shadeslayer> roger
[15:19] <shadeslayer> Riddell: would be cool if you got the packages sorted out, it's a holiday tomorrow, so I won't be in till Wednesday
[15:19] <shadeslayer> and the migration block will be in place till then
[15:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: what happened to http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/
[15:27] <Riddell> shadeslayer: the docs server has died :(
[15:27] <Riddell> wasn't renewed in time
[15:27] <shadeslayer> :/
[15:30] <Riddell> I have a backup from May but I've also got half the transfer form from the guy who payed for it
[15:43] <soee> how big server do you need ? :)
[15:45] <Riddell> big enough for kubuntu.org running wordpress
[15:50] <soee> Riddell: the first plan would be enough: https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/ ?
[15:53] <soee> also do you need server or account on shard hosting ?
[15:53] <soee> *shared
[15:54] <Riddell> soee: we need root access to set stuff up
[15:55] <Riddell> soee: honestly I don't know what is good enough, it's hard to say with kubuntu.org moving onto the server
[15:55] <Riddell> soee: also we should try and get the old server back again before looking at new options
[15:55] <Riddell> I need to finish this form and send to the old company and see if they can re-activate it
[15:56] <soee> Riddell: ok if it wont help, contact me ill try to help
[16:06] <Riddell> soee: thanks, will get back to you
[16:13] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-next , please provide feedback
[16:28] <Riddell> shadeslayer: made some changes, all good
[16:29] <shadeslayer> Karma: 67789 < aw, missed the 66666 mark
[16:29] <shadeslayer> yofel: apachelogger ScottK https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-next
[16:31] <Quintasan> hurr durr
[16:31] <Quintasan> pastebin plasmoid is all sorts of broken
[16:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: is bug 658047 for precise still WIP?
[17:06] <sgclark> Riddell: konsole frameworks is ready for review + kde-baseapps seems to think 4.13.2 is newer
[17:08] <soee> is it easy to remove project neon 5 same as install it ?
[17:19] <Riddell> soee: yep
[17:19] <Riddell> soee: great, what bzr branches?
[17:21] <Riddell> sgclark rather: great, what bzr branches?
[17:21] <Riddell> going out shortly for a few hours
[17:22] <sgclark> Riddell: lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging-next/konsole
[17:22] <sgclark> and kde-baseapps 
[17:22] <sgclark> ok np
[17:50] <soee> Riddell: can you post the link to the plasma-next wallpaper ?
[17:50] <soee> im on projct-neon now :) works nice
[21:31] <Riddell> soee: if you're on neon it should be in /usr/share/wallpapers
[21:36] <soee> Riddell: thanks :) not at neon now though... i have hcnage panel position and few other things and i have black screen after login -.-
[22:14] <Riddell> ScottK: any thoughts on what's wrong with pykde4? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/177889764/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-amd64.pykde4_4%3A4.13.2-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[22:30] <ScottK> Riddell: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-kde/kde-sc/pykde4.git;a=commitdiff;h=07da2ad4290a46e791a4319813a9df5afb5a67ff
[22:30] <Riddell> mmm
[22:30] <Riddell> thanks
[22:33] <ScottK> Np
[22:44] <ScottK> Riddell: We're in for alpha 1, right? 
[23:40] <ScottK> valorie: I don't think that tool really helps much.
[23:52] <valorie> the metalink?
[23:52] <valorie> I downloaded from 5 servers concurrently
[23:53] <valorie> it won't make up for crappy connectivity, for sure
[23:53] <valorie> took me about 14-15 mins for one iso
[23:54] <ScottK> valorie: No, the package review thing.
[23:54] <valorie> ah
[23:54] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Your kde4libs SRU is missing the kio security fix.  Please reupload.
[23:54] <valorie> well, there is no interest from us or kde, so it won't happen IMO
[23:55] <ScottK> Also, I think there's less duplication of effort between us and Debian than I have the impression you think there is.