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AleksejsMHi00:19
AleksejsMMy kubuntu is completely broken after release-upgrade. Can anyone help me?00:20
valoriewhat do you mean by broken, AleksejsM00:23
AleksejsMFirst of all, wireless stopped working00:24
AleksejsMI googled for solution, found some thread on askubuntu00:25
valorielet's start at the beginning00:25
valoriewhat were you upgrading from, and to what, and how did you do it?00:25
valoriewhat error messages are you getting?00:26
valorieetc.00:26
AleksejsM12.10 to 13.1000:26
AleksejsMAfter upgrade, wireless stopped working00:27
valorie13.04, I assume00:27
AleksejsMYes00:27
valorieor LTS > LTS?00:28
valoriewhich is 12.04 > 12.0400:28
valorieI mean 13.0400:28
valoriehmmm, seems like my wireless stopped for a bit too00:28
valoriebut updates fixed it almost instantly, and that was a beta00:29
AleksejsMI had 12.10 for a long time and decided to upgrade00:29
valorieso did you do `do-release-upgrade` in the cli?00:29
AleksejsMNo, I did it from gui00:30
valoriefrom Muon?00:30
AleksejsMYes00:30
valorieok00:30
valoriewas your system fully up-to-date before doing the upgrade?00:30
AleksejsMAll packages were up to date00:31
valoriecool00:31
AleksejsMAfter upgrade wireless stopped working00:31
valoriejust to ensure that everything is copacetic, I would do, in the konsole `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`00:31
AleksejsMSo I googled for solution00:32
valorieall in one line00:32
valoriejust as i typed it -- you can copy/paste into konsole using control shift V00:32
AleksejsMI can't as my system does not work00:33
AleksejsMLet me finish00:33
valorieno way to use a wire?00:33
valorieok00:33
AleksejsMSo I googled and found some solution on askubuntu00:34
valorieright, as you said00:34
valoriecan you paste in the link, so i can see what you did?00:35
AleksejsMThey offered to download and make install drivers for that00:35
AleksejsMA sec, I'll try to find that link00:35
AleksejsMhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/419867/qualcomm-atheros-ar9485-wireless-network-adapter-not-working-on-ubuntu-13-1000:36
AleksejsMI did as recomended in 1st answer00:37
valoriefor starters, this is about 13.10, which you do not have00:37
AleksejsMAnd now desktop does not star00:38
AleksejsMt*00:38
valoriealso this is about a particular atheros adapter00:38
valoriedo you have that one?00:38
valoriedoesn't START?00:38
AleksejsMI have that adapter00:38
AleksejsMAt boot, it asks for password then tries to load everything and hangs00:39
valorieI'm sorry, this is beyond what I can help with00:40
valorieif no one pops up soon, i would: burn an ISO to a thumbdrive, and try it out as a live session00:40
valorieif it works, then you can do a clean install00:41
valorieor, if you do not want to do that, write to the kubuntu-users list and ask there00:41
AleksejsMNot sure it's an option as all I have now is my phone00:42
valorieooooo00:43
valorieplease write the list then00:43
valorieexplain everything very clearly, as you did above00:43
valorieincluding that link, please00:44
valoriewhere do you live?00:44
valorieperhaps I could burn an ISO and send it to you00:44
valorieor find someone close to you to do so00:44
AleksejsMJust got a general protection fault :-(00:44
valorieyou'll probably have to do everything in terminal until this is fixed00:45
AleksejsMYes00:45
valoriecontrol + alt + f2-5 or so00:45
AleksejsMBut now I can't even access to the terminal00:46
valoriebut I must go find some dinner00:46
valorieyikes!00:46
valoriekubuntu-users mailing list00:47
valoriekubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com00:47
valorieModify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users00:47
AleksejsMI guess the problem is with broken network-manager00:48
valoriesure, but that shouldn't crash your system00:48
AleksejsMBtw, ctrl+alt+F# doesn't work00:49
AleksejsMNot sure why00:49
AleksejsMI guess i need a clean install00:49
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GermanMeatAnyone else using Kubuntu 14.04 with touchscreen netbook?04:21
GermanMeattrying to get multi-touch on screen to work.04:22
GermanMeatDimming doesn't work either04:22
GermanMeatintel graphics04:22
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OxDeadC0deI'm running an old p4 with an ati radeon 7500 rage theater card (with a phillips tv decoder on the card). I'm trying to get the tuner to work, anyone awake willing to try assisting?09:25
ikoniawhats the actual problem with it ?09:32
OxDeadC0deThere is no /dev/v4l/video0 , nor /dev/dvb . the card is working on regular output via dvi with a vga adapter, but the tv-input tuner isn't being recognized09:34
OxDeadC0deread something about the kernel switching from ?USM? to ?KSM? for the v4l support and the radeon driver simply dropping all tv tuner stuff because a) nobody had time, or b) nobody knew how to convert what was written09:36
ikonialooks like it's dead in the 3.0 kernel09:46
ikoniafrom all the notes/documentation I see09:46
OxDeadC0de>_<09:48
OxDeadC0deI'm going to see if Catalyst helps, otherwise.. I guess I'll look into finding an old distrobution with the right drivers && xawtv09:49
OxDeadC0dethe only job of this computer will be to display the analog tv signal from the video card, back out the video card and to play the audio out of the sound card.09:49
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BluesKaj'Morning folks10:38
OxDeadC0demorning BluesKaj. another thought, xkill should have a shortcut, like menu-k, and a massive advertising campaign to promote it........10:39
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ivanbajrbom dia12:14
ivanbajrestou com um pequeno problema12:15
ivanbajrtem som em meu pc12:15
ivanbajrver um filme sem problema12:15
ivanbajrcd sem problema12:15
ivanbajrmas ao abrir o youtube12:16
ivanbajrnão tem som12:16
ivanbajrtanto no firefox12:16
ivanbajrcomo no google chrome12:17
Unit193!es12:18
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.12:18
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BluesKaj!akonadi15:23
BluesKaj!info akonadi15:23
ubottuPackage akonadi does not exist in trusty15:23
mr-richKubuntu 14.04, iPhone & Aramok ... Any help?15:24
BluesKaj!info akonadi-server15:25
ubottuakonadi-server (source: akonadi): Akonadi PIM storage service. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.12.1-0ubuntu1.1 (trusty), package size 615 kB, installed size 2393 kB15:25
shadeslayermr-rich: try #amarok15:26
shadeslayeror posting on the kde forums15:27
mr-richshadeslayer: iPhone won't mount correctly in Kubuntu ... mounts as camera only. Mounts in Ubuntu fine ...15:27
mr-richshadeslayer: both run 14.0415:28
shadeslayerIf I had an answer to your question, I'd have replied here instead of sending you to alternative support channels :P15:28
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cfaulk40good evening.  I wonder if someone would be kind enough to help me with my new 14.04 install please?  I'm having difficulty making it look like KDE.  The panel is weird, I can't find any of the widgets and such like, and it's really looking quite strange.  Are there any configuration guides out there at all please?16:13
cfaulk40I think it's using Gnome's interface, which is why it looks "wrong" to me...16:13
BluesKajcfaulk40, which site did you DL the iso file from?16:17
cfaulk40ubuntu.org16:17
cfaulk40pulled it through the download button on the website16:18
BluesKajhttp://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download16:18
BluesKajthat's the kubuntu site16:18
cfaulk40so you mean I've installed the wrong one?  Well god on a growbag.  When I load this it says it's kubuntu, during the install I selected Kubuntu Desktop...16:19
aljosai'm getting "unbootable disk error...", tried booting w/ installation usb image, chroot-ing and running update-grub2 but it didn't work. any suggestions?16:21
cfaulk40oh well, back to the drawing board.  I'll wipe this install out and go get the right iso.16:21
aljosaexisting system which worked before on mb air16:22
bennypr0fanehello, I'm in a bad pickle, I worked on a presentation in LibreOffice Impress for hours, then closed it and clicked "close without saving". Now it's gone, I can't find it anywhere! I'm afraid I forgot to name the file and specify a location first, so it wasn't saved anywhere. How can I recover this? I'm on Kubuntu 14.0416:23
bennypr0faneayn ideas?16:23
cfaulk40see ya later16:23
BluesKajaljosa, mb air?16:25
aljosayes, the only recent change was that i've upgraded osx to mavericks version16:26
aljosadual boot kubuntu/osx worked ok before that16:26
BluesKajwhat's mb air?16:26
aljosamacbook air16:27
BluesKajoh16:27
BluesKajaljosa, suggest you try boot-repair16:28
aljosaBluesKaj: where can i find boot-repair? it's not available as command in shell/terminal16:31
BluesKajit's a live cd/media16:31
BluesKajaljosa, http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd/home/Home/16:33
bennypr0faneWhat is the location of temporary files?16:42
BluesKajbennypr0fane, /tmp16:44
geniiAlso /var/tmp/kdecache-<your-username>16:46
bennypr0faneBluesKaj: for all the applications?16:48
bennypr0faneLO must have saved that draft somewhere, right?16:49
BluesKajbennypr0fane, also check genii post above ^16:50
bennypr0faneBluesKaj: sorry, just noticed it.16:50
bennypr0fanenothing useful there16:50
bennypr0faneare there hidden files as well?16:51
geniiThere are a number of dot-files in a home directory. But they contain usually settings for different apps or settings, not things like a cache of a document you were working on or anything like that16:52
bennypr0fanegenii found a list of paths that LO uses. nothing in there. backup  files are actually below /home/user/.config etc. crap.16:55
bennypr0fane*if* I has activated the option for making backup files16:56
bennypr0fanebut i dint16:56
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DatHello can someone tell me if they have usb 3.0 working in the 14.10 version?18:27
gebjgdDat: my usb 3.0 work in 14.0418:28
gebjgdDat: my usb 3.0 works already in 14.0418:28
DatYes in my 14.04 is works too but since I upgraded to 14.1018:29
Datit no longer works18:29
Datand I couldn't find away to downgrade without reformating18:30
wuschLOR14.10 ?18:30
Datyes18:30
DatI believe its a dev version18:30
gebjgdDat: 14.10 is sid18:30
Datwhat is sid?18:30
gebjgdDat: still in development18:30
gebjgdDat: just like debian sid18:31
Datright18:31
gebjgdDat: then you should know that18:31
DatI have no method's of downgrading except format and start over18:31
BluesKaj14.10 kubuntu is devel version18:31
gebjgdDat: *ubuntu is really easy to reinstall, what is the problem?18:31
Datgebjgd: I'll have to format and start over18:32
gebjgdDat: not really18:32
BluesKajDat, I'm running 14.10 and it's more stable than 14.04 is on another partition on the same pc18:32
gebjgdDat: backup your /etc18:32
DatBluesKaj: yeah my 14.10 works well but I use my 3.0 drive all the time and seems to not work in 14.1018:33
Dat;/18:33
BluesKajusb?18:33
Datyes usb18:34
gebjgdDat: get your apt list --installed then reinstall18:34
gebjgdDat: what is the problem?18:34
BluesKajDat, have you updated and upgraded since the install?18:34
DatYes18:34
BluesKajok, also dist-upgrade18:35
DatBluesKaj: and since im on 14.10 already what is the dist-upgrade going to do for me?18:35
Datdist-upgrade has nothing to upgrade18:36
gebjgdDat: if you expect always new package, then you should use archlinux18:36
BluesKajdist-upgrade will upgrade existing packages and kde18:36
BluesKajit doesn't upgrade to a new OS anymore , that's what do-release-upgrade does now18:37
Datgebjgd: backing up my apt-get installed list and my /etc I dont think re-installing ubuntu on top of an installed version would be wise18:37
Datand most likely will crash my dualboot18:37
BluesKajgebjgd, this is kubuntu, if you have any suggestions use them in the context of thi support chat pls18:38
DatBluesKaj: ahh cool I thought dist-upgrade did that still18:38
BluesKajno18:38
gebjgdBluesKaj: dont get me wrong. i am using kubuntu18:39
BluesKajok , lets stick with the subject at hand18:39
gebjgdDat: so just reinstall kubuntu and apt-get install your apt list --installed18:39
BluesKajno just dist-upgrade18:40
Dathrmm perhaps there are different methods to get what I need18:42
lordievaderDat: Does udev see your usb drive?18:43
Datlordievader: when I do I udevadm monitor and unplug and replug my usb drive nothing shows up18:44
Datlordievader: I know the drive works because when I plug it in to my usb 2.0 the drive works18:46
lordievaderSo your kernel doesn't see it.18:46
Dathrmm18:46
Datso I need to reconfigure my kernel?18:46
Dat3.15.0-6-generic18:47
lordievaderNot really sure if there is a usb 3 driver, or if the kernel team enabled it for that matter.18:47
Datis what I have18:47
Dator maybe downgrade to a kernel that ccould see it18:49
lordievaderDat: What is the output of "zcat /proc/config.gz|grep USB_XHCI"18:49
Datgzip: /proc/config.gz: No such file or directory18:50
BluesKajDat, does plain ol' lsusb show the hub18:53
DatBus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub18:54
BluesKajI have the kernel and the 3.0 usb hub/port shows up here18:54
lordievaderDat: Pff, "cat /boot/config-$(uname -r)|grep CONFIG_USB_XHCI" ;)18:54
BluesKajsame kernel that is18:54
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lordievaderOn my Saucy install it is enabled too, so it probably aint the driver availability.18:55
DatCONFIG_USB_XHCI_HCD=y18:55
DatCONFIG_USB_XHCI_PLATFORM=m18:55
lordievaderThat's what I mean, the driver is compiled into the kernel ;)18:55
Datlordievader: so the driver is compiled but not loaded?18:56
lordievaderErm, I think that only applies to drivers compiles as modules.18:59
Datwell thanks everyone for the input19:01
Datthis is going to be a long re-install process yikes19:03
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bpromptDat:    long?19:06
Datyup I am going to have to backup everything and re-install and re-configure and install all my apps19:06
Datseems like a long process to me19:06
bprompthmmm19:07
bpromptback up .. what?19:07
bpromptDat:    you pretty much all you need is $HOME really19:07
Datbprompt: its better to backup everything so incase I need something can go to a backup and get it if need be.19:08
bpromptas far as 14.10.... dunno... I guess you never kept the .debs from 14.04   but I might think the 14.10 may work with it, dunno19:08
DatIm just going to start fresh from 13.04 and wont bother doing any upgrades until tested in a VM19:08
DatProlly what I should have done at first but rolled the dice and lost my usb 3.019:09
bpromptyou do know 13.04 EOL ended last january, right?19:09
Z_Goddoes anyone here use kubuntu 14.04 with pulseaudio?19:09
Datbprompt: perhaps but it was the last version that I know of where all of my functions worked19:09
* lordievader agrees with Dat that it is good to backup the sys-dirs too.19:10
Z_GodI've got 2 instances of pulseaudio running after logging in, which is causing problems19:10
lordievaderZ_God: I thought I fixed that by killing the respawn of pulseaudio.19:10
lordievaderNot really sure though.19:10
Z_Godlordievader: when was this fix released?19:11
lordievaderZ_God: It's more of a work around then a fix. Let alone an official fix.19:11
bpromptDat:     well.... anyhow.... after installing 13.04  don't forget to grab the .debs from /var/cache/apt/archives19:11
Z_Godlordievader: maybe you could look at my bug report, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/132528219:12
ubottuUbuntu bug 1325282 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "USB microphone inputs not detected by Pulseaudio on Kubuntu Trusty" [Undecided,New]19:12
bpromptDat:      and while the backup happens, recall that you always wanted to watch a rerun of the "english patient" anyhow  =P19:12
lordievaderWasn't Raring EOL?19:12
bpromptlordievader:   was at the end of january 201419:13
lordievaderSo who is installing Raring now?19:14
Datif I could get my usb 3.0 back I could avoid the format / reinstall19:14
lordievaderWhat's wrong with Trusty? (I've come to believe Dat was running Utopic)19:14
DatI am running utopic19:15
bpromptyeap... 14.04 would be nice19:15
lordievaderZ_God: Utopic has the same behaviour (2 PA processes), lets see if my "fix" works.19:15
lordievaderDat: So what's wrong with Trusty?19:16
Dathavent used it19:16
Datnot sure if my usb 3.0 will work19:17
bprompthmmm   Dat   so you went from 13.04   to 14.10?  hmm19:17
lordievaderDat: Then the question why did you install a development release?19:17
BluesKajlordievader, USB 3.0 works here on 14.1019:20
lordievaderBluesKaj: ?19:20
BluesKajlordievader, Dat's USB 3.0 isn't being recognized  on his 14.10 install19:22
lordievaderZ_God: Ah, now I remember, adding the respawn=no starts no instance of pa at all. However this is quickly solved by adding pa to your .profile. (True, this is a very dirty workaround, but it does seem to do the job)19:22
Datlordievader: I wanted to try it19:22
Datbprompt: yes 13.04 to 14.1019:23
bpromptDat:     you may be better served with 14.04 I'd think19:23
Z_Godlordievader: I guess that would help for now, do you know a bit more about this problem? it seems like a significant bug in trusty19:24
BluesKajbprompt, not necessarily ..14.04 is buggier so far than 14.10is19:25
bprompthmmm19:25
BluesKajbprompt, I'm running both on the same pachine \19:25
BluesKajmachine19:25
lordievaderZ_God: Nope, it's still present in Utopic ;)19:25
bpromptBluesKaj:    can't  say I checked for usb3.0  since I don't have one here, but when I ran 14.04  ran fine for me19:25
BluesKajbprompt, well it runs fine here on 14.1019:26
Z_Godlordievader: so you put '/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog' at the bottom of your .profile?19:27
lordievaderAre we getting into a heated argument on where usb3 works or am I just reading too much into it?19:27
BluesKajnot a n19:27
lordievaderZ_God: No, just "pulseaudio --daemon", but let it suit your needs ;_19:27
lordievader;)*19:27
mr-richAnyone able to mount an iPhone 5s (IOS 7.0.4) in Kubuntu 14.04? Works fine in Ubuntu 14.04 ...19:28
BluesKajheated argument lordievader, more lie a discussion19:28
BluesKajlike19:28
Z_Godlordievader: that command is what I see twice from ps aux19:28
BluesKajcomparing notes19:28
Z_GodI have no clue what would best suit my needs :)19:28
lordievaderZ_God: Then just keep their command.19:29
* BluesKaj stops snacking and pays more attn to the KB19:29
Z_Godlordievader: there's no --daemon option btw, but there is --daemonize, I think I'd better add it to avoid pulseaudio staying in the foreground19:32
BluesKajbprompt, think it's a HW/API thing like my desktop has with kmail and akonadi PIM server , after about a week of using kmail it begins segfaulting, and after 3 yrs of this I finally gave up looking for a fix.19:33
bpromptcould be, yes19:34
BluesKajkmail was great in KDE319:37
Datis it possible my usb 3.0 drive specifically doesn't work but another would?19:38
Datis there anyway I can re-install a kenrel that would see the 3.0 drive?19:38
raymearsidentify doizece19:39
BluesKajDat, try an older kernel in grub19:40
Datwill do19:40
Z_Godlordievader: I have two /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio*.desktop files19:41
lordievaderZ_God: Oehh, would that be the cause?19:51
Z_Godlordievader: maybe but both man pages claim to only start pulseaudio when it's not started yet19:52
kumekuÜdv20:33
DatSo if I install 12.10 kubuntu could I do a do-release-upgrade to get to 14.10?21:26
Datanyone?21:30
geniiDat: No, 12.10 is not a Long Term Support release, and neither will be 14.10  .. it IS possible to go directly from 12.04.3 to 14.04.1 after July 28 however, these are both LTS21:33
geniiCaveat: It may be possible to go directly to development version of 14.10 with do-release-upgrade -d  from there since it's currently not released yet. Not sure from 12.10 though, would be more reliable from 14.04 or 13.1021:37
Datgotcha21:42
GermanMeatHowdy21:50
GermanMeatAnyone else using Touch screen with Kubuntu?21:53
GermanMeatWow... really?22:04
GermanMeatAnyoneelse using Touch screen with Kubuntu?22:15
GermanMeatAnyone else use Touchscreen with Kubuntu?22:36
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GermanMeatAnyone else using touchscreen with Kubuntu23:42

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