[00:19] <AleksejsM> Hi
[00:20] <AleksejsM> My kubuntu is completely broken after release-upgrade. Can anyone help me?
[00:23] <valorie> what do you mean by broken, AleksejsM
[00:24] <AleksejsM> First of all, wireless stopped working
[00:25] <AleksejsM> I googled for solution, found some thread on askubuntu
[00:25] <valorie> let's start at the beginning
[00:25] <valorie> what were you upgrading from, and to what, and how did you do it?
[00:26] <valorie> what error messages are you getting?
[00:26] <valorie> etc.
[00:26] <AleksejsM> 12.10 to 13.10
[00:27] <AleksejsM> After upgrade, wireless stopped working
[00:27] <valorie> 13.04, I assume
[00:27] <AleksejsM> Yes
[00:28] <valorie> or LTS > LTS?
[00:28] <valorie> which is 12.04 > 12.04
[00:28] <valorie> I mean 13.04
[00:28] <valorie> hmmm, seems like my wireless stopped for a bit too
[00:29] <valorie> but updates fixed it almost instantly, and that was a beta
[00:29] <AleksejsM> I had 12.10 for a long time and decided to upgrade
[00:29] <valorie> so did you do `do-release-upgrade` in the cli?
[00:30] <AleksejsM> No, I did it from gui
[00:30] <valorie> from Muon?
[00:30] <AleksejsM> Yes
[00:30] <valorie> ok
[00:30] <valorie> was your system fully up-to-date before doing the upgrade?
[00:31] <AleksejsM> All packages were up to date
[00:31] <valorie> cool
[00:31] <AleksejsM> After upgrade wireless stopped working
[00:31] <valorie> just to ensure that everything is copacetic, I would do, in the konsole `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`
[00:32] <AleksejsM> So I googled for solution
[00:32] <valorie> all in one line
[00:32] <valorie> just as i typed it -- you can copy/paste into konsole using control shift V
[00:33] <AleksejsM> I can't as my system does not work
[00:33] <AleksejsM> Let me finish
[00:33] <valorie> no way to use a wire?
[00:33] <valorie> ok
[00:34] <AleksejsM> So I googled and found some solution on askubuntu
[00:34] <valorie> right, as you said
[00:35] <valorie> can you paste in the link, so i can see what you did?
[00:35] <AleksejsM> They offered to download and make install drivers for that
[00:35] <AleksejsM> A sec, I'll try to find that link
[00:36] <AleksejsM> http://askubuntu.com/questions/419867/qualcomm-atheros-ar9485-wireless-network-adapter-not-working-on-ubuntu-13-10
[00:37] <AleksejsM> I did as recomended in 1st answer
[00:37] <valorie> for starters, this is about 13.10, which you do not have
[00:38] <AleksejsM> And now desktop does not star
[00:38] <AleksejsM> t*
[00:38] <valorie> also this is about a particular atheros adapter
[00:38] <valorie> do you have that one?
[00:38] <valorie> doesn't START?
[00:38] <AleksejsM> I have that adapter
[00:39] <AleksejsM> At boot, it asks for password then tries to load everything and hangs
[00:40] <valorie> I'm sorry, this is beyond what I can help with
[00:40] <valorie> if no one pops up soon, i would: burn an ISO to a thumbdrive, and try it out as a live session
[00:41] <valorie> if it works, then you can do a clean install
[00:41] <valorie> or, if you do not want to do that, write to the kubuntu-users list and ask there
[00:42] <AleksejsM> Not sure it's an option as all I have now is my phone
[00:43] <valorie> ooooo
[00:43] <valorie> please write the list then
[00:43] <valorie> explain everything very clearly, as you did above
[00:44] <valorie> including that link, please
[00:44] <valorie> where do you live?
[00:44] <valorie> perhaps I could burn an ISO and send it to you
[00:44] <valorie> or find someone close to you to do so
[00:44] <AleksejsM> Just got a general protection fault :-(
[00:45] <valorie> you'll probably have to do everything in terminal until this is fixed
[00:45] <AleksejsM> Yes
[00:45] <valorie> control + alt + f2-5 or so
[00:46] <AleksejsM> But now I can't even access to the terminal
[00:46] <valorie> but I must go find some dinner
[00:46] <valorie> yikes!
[00:47] <valorie> kubuntu-users mailing list
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[00:48] <AleksejsM> I guess the problem is with broken network-manager
[00:48] <valorie> sure, but that shouldn't crash your system
[00:49] <AleksejsM> Btw, ctrl+alt+F# doesn't work
[00:49] <AleksejsM> Not sure why
[00:49] <AleksejsM> I guess i need a clean install
[04:21] <GermanMeat> Anyone else using Kubuntu 14.04 with touchscreen netbook?
[04:22] <GermanMeat> trying to get multi-touch on screen to work.
[04:22] <GermanMeat> Dimming doesn't work either
[04:22] <GermanMeat> intel graphics
[09:25] <OxDeadC0de> I'm running an old p4 with an ati radeon 7500 rage theater card (with a phillips tv decoder on the card). I'm trying to get the tuner to work, anyone awake willing to try assisting?
[09:32] <ikonia> whats the actual problem with it ?
[09:34] <OxDeadC0de> There is no /dev/v4l/video0 , nor /dev/dvb . the card is working on regular output via dvi with a vga adapter, but the tv-input tuner isn't being recognized
[09:36] <OxDeadC0de> read something about the kernel switching from ?USM? to ?KSM? for the v4l support and the radeon driver simply dropping all tv tuner stuff because a) nobody had time, or b) nobody knew how to convert what was written
[09:46] <ikonia> looks like it's dead in the 3.0 kernel
[09:46] <ikonia> from all the notes/documentation I see
[09:48] <OxDeadC0de> >_<
[09:49] <OxDeadC0de> I'm going to see if Catalyst helps, otherwise.. I guess I'll look into finding an old distrobution with the right drivers && xawtv
[09:49] <OxDeadC0de> the only job of this computer will be to display the analog tv signal from the video card, back out the video card and to play the audio out of the sound card.
[10:38] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:39] <OxDeadC0de> morning BluesKaj. another thought, xkill should have a shortcut, like menu-k, and a massive advertising campaign to promote it........
[12:14] <ivanbajr> bom dia
[12:15] <ivanbajr> estou com um pequeno problema
[12:15] <ivanbajr> tem som em meu pc
[12:15] <ivanbajr> ver um filme sem problema
[12:15] <ivanbajr> cd sem problema
[12:16] <ivanbajr> mas ao abrir o youtube
[12:16] <ivanbajr> não tem som
[12:16] <ivanbajr> tanto no firefox
[12:17] <ivanbajr> como no google chrome
[12:18] <Unit193> !es
[15:23] <BluesKaj> !akonadi
[15:23] <BluesKaj> !info akonadi
[15:24] <mr-rich> Kubuntu 14.04, iPhone & Aramok ... Any help?
[15:25] <BluesKaj> !info akonadi-server
[15:26] <shadeslayer> mr-rich: try #amarok
[15:27] <shadeslayer> or posting on the kde forums
[15:27] <mr-rich> shadeslayer: iPhone won't mount correctly in Kubuntu ... mounts as camera only. Mounts in Ubuntu fine ...
[15:28] <mr-rich> shadeslayer: both run 14.04
[15:28] <shadeslayer> If I had an answer to your question, I'd have replied here instead of sending you to alternative support channels :P
[16:13] <cfaulk40> good evening.  I wonder if someone would be kind enough to help me with my new 14.04 install please?  I'm having difficulty making it look like KDE.  The panel is weird, I can't find any of the widgets and such like, and it's really looking quite strange.  Are there any configuration guides out there at all please?
[16:13] <cfaulk40> I think it's using Gnome's interface, which is why it looks "wrong" to me...
[16:17] <BluesKaj> cfaulk40, which site did you DL the iso file from?
[16:17] <cfaulk40> ubuntu.org
[16:18] <cfaulk40> pulled it through the download button on the website
[16:18] <BluesKaj> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
[16:18] <BluesKaj> that's the kubuntu site
[16:19] <cfaulk40> so you mean I've installed the wrong one?  Well god on a growbag.  When I load this it says it's kubuntu, during the install I selected Kubuntu Desktop...
[16:21] <aljosa> i'm getting "unbootable disk error...", tried booting w/ installation usb image, chroot-ing and running update-grub2 but it didn't work. any suggestions?
[16:21] <cfaulk40> oh well, back to the drawing board.  I'll wipe this install out and go get the right iso.
[16:22] <aljosa> existing system which worked before on mb air
[16:23] <bennypr0fane> hello, I'm in a bad pickle, I worked on a presentation in LibreOffice Impress for hours, then closed it and clicked "close without saving". Now it's gone, I can't find it anywhere! I'm afraid I forgot to name the file and specify a location first, so it wasn't saved anywhere. How can I recover this? I'm on Kubuntu 14.04
[16:23] <bennypr0fane> ayn ideas?
[16:23] <cfaulk40> see ya later
[16:25] <BluesKaj> aljosa, mb air?
[16:26] <aljosa> yes, the only recent change was that i've upgraded osx to mavericks version
[16:26] <aljosa> dual boot kubuntu/osx worked ok before that
[16:26] <BluesKaj> what's mb air?
[16:27] <aljosa> macbook air
[16:27] <BluesKaj> oh
[16:28] <BluesKaj> aljosa, suggest you try boot-repair
[16:31] <aljosa> BluesKaj: where can i find boot-repair? it's not available as command in shell/terminal
[16:31] <BluesKaj> it's a live cd/media
[16:33] <BluesKaj> aljosa, http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd/home/Home/
[16:42] <bennypr0fane> What is the location of temporary files?
[16:44] <BluesKaj> bennypr0fane, /tmp
[16:46] <genii> Also /var/tmp/kdecache-<your-username>
[16:48] <bennypr0fane> BluesKaj: for all the applications?
[16:49] <bennypr0fane> LO must have saved that draft somewhere, right?
[16:50] <BluesKaj> bennypr0fane, also check genii post above ^
[16:50] <bennypr0fane> BluesKaj: sorry, just noticed it.
[16:50] <bennypr0fane> nothing useful there
[16:51] <bennypr0fane> are there hidden files as well?
[16:52] <genii> There are a number of dot-files in a home directory. But they contain usually settings for different apps or settings, not things like a cache of a document you were working on or anything like that
[16:55] <bennypr0fane> genii found a list of paths that LO uses. nothing in there. backup  files are actually below /home/user/.config etc. crap.
[16:56] <bennypr0fane> *if* I has activated the option for making backup files
[16:56] <bennypr0fane> but i dint
[18:27] <Dat> Hello can someone tell me if they have usb 3.0 working in the 14.10 version?
[18:28] <gebjgd> Dat: my usb 3.0 work in 14.04
[18:28] <gebjgd> Dat: my usb 3.0 works already in 14.04
[18:29] <Dat> Yes in my 14.04 is works too but since I upgraded to 14.10
[18:29] <Dat> it no longer works
[18:30] <Dat> and I couldn't find away to downgrade without reformating
[18:30] <wuschLOR> 14.10 ?
[18:30] <Dat> yes
[18:30] <Dat> I believe its a dev version
[18:30] <gebjgd> Dat: 14.10 is sid
[18:30] <Dat> what is sid?
[18:30] <gebjgd> Dat: still in development
[18:31] <gebjgd> Dat: just like debian sid
[18:31] <Dat> right
[18:31] <gebjgd> Dat: then you should know that
[18:31] <Dat> I have no method's of downgrading except format and start over
[18:31] <BluesKaj> 14.10 kubuntu is devel version
[18:31] <gebjgd> Dat: *ubuntu is really easy to reinstall, what is the problem?
[18:32] <Dat> gebjgd: I'll have to format and start over
[18:32] <gebjgd> Dat: not really
[18:32] <BluesKaj> Dat, I'm running 14.10 and it's more stable than 14.04 is on another partition on the same pc
[18:32] <gebjgd> Dat: backup your /etc
[18:33] <Dat> BluesKaj: yeah my 14.10 works well but I use my 3.0 drive all the time and seems to not work in 14.10
[18:33] <Dat> ;/
[18:33] <BluesKaj> usb?
[18:34] <Dat> yes usb
[18:34] <gebjgd> Dat: get your apt list --installed then reinstall
[18:34] <gebjgd> Dat: what is the problem?
[18:34] <BluesKaj> Dat, have you updated and upgraded since the install?
[18:34] <Dat> Yes
[18:35] <BluesKaj> ok, also dist-upgrade
[18:35] <Dat> BluesKaj: and since im on 14.10 already what is the dist-upgrade going to do for me?
[18:36] <Dat> dist-upgrade has nothing to upgrade
[18:36] <gebjgd> Dat: if you expect always new package, then you should use archlinux
[18:36] <BluesKaj> dist-upgrade will upgrade existing packages and kde
[18:37] <BluesKaj> it doesn't upgrade to a new OS anymore , that's what do-release-upgrade does now
[18:37] <Dat> gebjgd: backing up my apt-get installed list and my /etc I dont think re-installing ubuntu on top of an installed version would be wise
[18:37] <Dat> and most likely will crash my dualboot
[18:38] <BluesKaj> gebjgd, this is kubuntu, if you have any suggestions use them in the context of thi support chat pls
[18:38] <Dat> BluesKaj: ahh cool I thought dist-upgrade did that still
[18:38] <BluesKaj> no
[18:39] <gebjgd> BluesKaj: dont get me wrong. i am using kubuntu
[18:39] <BluesKaj> ok , lets stick with the subject at hand
[18:39] <gebjgd> Dat: so just reinstall kubuntu and apt-get install your apt list --installed
[18:40] <BluesKaj> no just dist-upgrade
[18:42] <Dat> hrmm perhaps there are different methods to get what I need
[18:43] <lordievader> Dat: Does udev see your usb drive?
[18:44] <Dat> lordievader: when I do I udevadm monitor and unplug and replug my usb drive nothing shows up
[18:46] <Dat> lordievader: I know the drive works because when I plug it in to my usb 2.0 the drive works
[18:46] <lordievader> So your kernel doesn't see it.
[18:46] <Dat> hrmm
[18:46] <Dat> so I need to reconfigure my kernel?
[18:47] <Dat> 3.15.0-6-generic
[18:47] <lordievader> Not really sure if there is a usb 3 driver, or if the kernel team enabled it for that matter.
[18:47] <Dat> is what I have
[18:49] <Dat> or maybe downgrade to a kernel that ccould see it
[18:49] <lordievader> Dat: What is the output of "zcat /proc/config.gz|grep USB_XHCI"
[18:50] <Dat> gzip: /proc/config.gz: No such file or directory
[18:53] <BluesKaj> Dat, does plain ol' lsusb show the hub
[18:54] <Dat> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[18:54] <BluesKaj> I have the kernel and the 3.0 usb hub/port shows up here
[18:54] <lordievader> Dat: Pff, "cat /boot/config-$(uname -r)|grep CONFIG_USB_XHCI" ;)
[18:54] <BluesKaj> same kernel that is
[18:55] <lordievader> On my Saucy install it is enabled too, so it probably aint the driver availability.
[18:55] <Dat> CONFIG_USB_XHCI_HCD=y
[18:55] <Dat> CONFIG_USB_XHCI_PLATFORM=m
[18:55] <lordievader> That's what I mean, the driver is compiled into the kernel ;)
[18:56] <Dat> lordievader: so the driver is compiled but not loaded?
[18:59] <lordievader> Erm, I think that only applies to drivers compiles as modules.
[19:01] <Dat> well thanks everyone for the input
[19:03] <Dat> this is going to be a long re-install process yikes
[19:06] <bprompt> Dat:    long?
[19:06] <Dat> yup I am going to have to backup everything and re-install and re-configure and install all my apps
[19:06] <Dat> seems like a long process to me
[19:07] <bprompt> hmmm
[19:07] <bprompt> back up .. what?
[19:07] <bprompt> Dat:    you pretty much all you need is $HOME really
[19:08] <Dat> bprompt: its better to backup everything so incase I need something can go to a backup and get it if need be.
[19:08] <bprompt> as far as 14.10.... dunno... I guess you never kept the .debs from 14.04   but I might think the 14.10 may work with it, dunno
[19:08] <Dat> Im just going to start fresh from 13.04 and wont bother doing any upgrades until tested in a VM
[19:09] <Dat> Prolly what I should have done at first but rolled the dice and lost my usb 3.0
[19:09] <bprompt> you do know 13.04 EOL ended last january, right?
[19:09] <Z_God> does anyone here use kubuntu 14.04 with pulseaudio?
[19:09] <Dat> bprompt: perhaps but it was the last version that I know of where all of my functions worked
[19:10]  * lordievader agrees with Dat that it is good to backup the sys-dirs too.
[19:10] <Z_God> I've got 2 instances of pulseaudio running after logging in, which is causing problems
[19:10] <lordievader> Z_God: I thought I fixed that by killing the respawn of pulseaudio.
[19:10] <lordievader> Not really sure though.
[19:11] <Z_God> lordievader: when was this fix released?
[19:11] <lordievader> Z_God: It's more of a work around then a fix. Let alone an official fix.
[19:11] <bprompt> Dat:     well.... anyhow.... after installing 13.04  don't forget to grab the .debs from /var/cache/apt/archives
[19:12] <Z_God> lordievader: maybe you could look at my bug report, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1325282
[19:12] <bprompt> Dat:      and while the backup happens, recall that you always wanted to watch a rerun of the "english patient" anyhow  =P
[19:12] <lordievader> Wasn't Raring EOL?
[19:13] <bprompt> lordievader:   was at the end of january 2014
[19:14] <lordievader> So who is installing Raring now?
[19:14] <Dat> if I could get my usb 3.0 back I could avoid the format / reinstall
[19:14] <lordievader> What's wrong with Trusty? (I've come to believe Dat was running Utopic)
[19:15] <Dat> I am running utopic
[19:15] <bprompt> yeap... 14.04 would be nice
[19:15] <lordievader> Z_God: Utopic has the same behaviour (2 PA processes), lets see if my "fix" works.
[19:16] <lordievader> Dat: So what's wrong with Trusty?
[19:16] <Dat> havent used it
[19:17] <Dat> not sure if my usb 3.0 will work
[19:17] <bprompt> hmmm   Dat   so you went from 13.04   to 14.10?  hmm
[19:17] <lordievader> Dat: Then the question why did you install a development release?
[19:20] <BluesKaj> lordievader, USB 3.0 works here on 14.10
[19:20] <lordievader> BluesKaj: ?
[19:22] <BluesKaj> lordievader, Dat's USB 3.0 isn't being recognized  on his 14.10 install
[19:22] <lordievader> Z_God: Ah, now I remember, adding the respawn=no starts no instance of pa at all. However this is quickly solved by adding pa to your .profile. (True, this is a very dirty workaround, but it does seem to do the job)
[19:22] <Dat> lordievader: I wanted to try it
[19:23] <Dat> bprompt: yes 13.04 to 14.10
[19:23] <bprompt> Dat:     you may be better served with 14.04 I'd think
[19:24] <Z_God> lordievader: I guess that would help for now, do you know a bit more about this problem? it seems like a significant bug in trusty
[19:25] <BluesKaj> bprompt, not necessarily ..14.04 is buggier so far than 14.10is
[19:25] <bprompt> hmmm
[19:25] <BluesKaj> bprompt, I'm running both on the same pachine \
[19:25] <BluesKaj> machine
[19:25] <lordievader> Z_God: Nope, it's still present in Utopic ;)
[19:25] <bprompt> BluesKaj:    can't  say I checked for usb3.0  since I don't have one here, but when I ran 14.04  ran fine for me
[19:26] <BluesKaj> bprompt, well it runs fine here on 14.10
[19:27] <Z_God> lordievader: so you put '/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog' at the bottom of your .profile?
[19:27] <lordievader> Are we getting into a heated argument on where usb3 works or am I just reading too much into it?
[19:27] <BluesKaj> not a n
[19:27] <lordievader> Z_God: No, just "pulseaudio --daemon", but let it suit your needs ;_
[19:27] <lordievader> ;)*
[19:28] <mr-rich> Anyone able to mount an iPhone 5s (IOS 7.0.4) in Kubuntu 14.04? Works fine in Ubuntu 14.04 ...
[19:28] <BluesKaj> heated argument lordievader, more lie a discussion
[19:28] <BluesKaj> like
[19:28] <Z_God> lordievader: that command is what I see twice from ps aux
[19:28] <BluesKaj> comparing notes
[19:28] <Z_God> I have no clue what would best suit my needs :)
[19:29] <lordievader> Z_God: Then just keep their command.
[19:29]  * BluesKaj stops snacking and pays more attn to the KB
[19:32] <Z_God> lordievader: there's no --daemon option btw, but there is --daemonize, I think I'd better add it to avoid pulseaudio staying in the foreground
[19:33] <BluesKaj> bprompt, think it's a HW/API thing like my desktop has with kmail and akonadi PIM server , after about a week of using kmail it begins segfaulting, and after 3 yrs of this I finally gave up looking for a fix.
[19:34] <bprompt> could be, yes
[19:37] <BluesKaj> kmail was great in KDE3
[19:38] <Dat> is it possible my usb 3.0 drive specifically doesn't work but another would?
[19:38] <Dat> is there anyway I can re-install a kenrel that would see the 3.0 drive?
[19:39] <raymears> identify doizece
[19:40] <BluesKaj> Dat, try an older kernel in grub
[19:40] <Dat> will do
[19:41] <Z_God> lordievader: I have two /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio*.desktop files
[19:51] <lordievader> Z_God: Oehh, would that be the cause?
[19:52] <Z_God> lordievader: maybe but both man pages claim to only start pulseaudio when it's not started yet
[20:33] <kumeku> Üdv
[21:26] <Dat> So if I install 12.10 kubuntu could I do a do-release-upgrade to get to 14.10?
[21:30] <Dat> anyone?
[21:33] <genii> Dat: No, 12.10 is not a Long Term Support release, and neither will be 14.10  .. it IS possible to go directly from 12.04.3 to 14.04.1 after July 28 however, these are both LTS
[21:37] <genii> Caveat: It may be possible to go directly to development version of 14.10 with do-release-upgrade -d  from there since it's currently not released yet. Not sure from 12.10 though, would be more reliable from 14.04 or 13.10
[21:42] <Dat> gotcha
[21:50] <GermanMeat> Howdy
[21:53] <GermanMeat> Anyone else using Touch screen with Kubuntu?
[22:04] <GermanMeat> Wow... really?
[22:15] <GermanMeat> Anyoneelse using Touch screen with Kubuntu?
[22:36] <GermanMeat> Anyone else use Touchscreen with Kubuntu?
[23:42] <GermanMeat> Anyone else using touchscreen with Kubuntu