| tbwa | hi all, new to Ubuntu/lubuntu, wanting to help out with testing. Anyone up for walking me through updating wiki pages? | 01:12 |
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| ianorlin | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing is the wiki page for testing | 01:18 |
| tbwa | danke @iannorlin | 01:27 |
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| airtonix | having some issues disablin screen blanking and screen locking | 02:35 |
| airtonix | i followed this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/130808/stop-xscreensaver-from-locking-screen-once-screensaver-starts. screen still blanks and locks. | 02:36 |
| ianorlin | is this 14.04? | 02:37 |
| airtonix | yeah should be. installed lubuntu-desktop over the top of gnome-ubuntu( or what ever the gnome-shell variant is called) | 02:37 |
| airtonix | so it's not xscreen saver, but lightlocker? | 02:37 |
| ianorlin | oh set lightlocker not to autostart automatically in defualt apps for lxsession | 02:38 |
| airtonix | does that disable the workflow: lock workstation > blank screen ? | 02:38 |
| airtonix | i mean my other option is to work out how to run synergy on the lock screen | 02:39 |
| ianorlin | oh you just want to stop the automatic timeouts | 02:39 |
| airtonix | one or the other | 02:39 |
| airtonix | synergy on lock screen or stop timeouts | 02:39 |
| onla | hmm.. I am having bad password problem with the wicd. I would like to try the fix method of uninstalling network-manager and then reinstalling wicd. However I don't have a wired connection available, so I can't uinstall network manager, because I am connected thru that(cus wicd doesnt work). So I was wondering how I can download wicd and all dependencies to some directory smoothly, or do I really have to go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/all/wicd | 11:19 |
| Unit193 | apt-get download if you know the package list. | 11:21 |
| onla | ok tks | 11:22 |
| onla | afdter doing that, can I then use apt-get install package-name offline to install them, or will it download .deb files to some location where i need to dpkg install them or some other method | 11:26 |
| onla | I guess I can search answer to that from google, but I try ask, cus it would be slow with mobile :) | 11:26 |
| Unit193 | No, apt-get install with the version in Trusty won't work like that. If you recently downloaded the current version, it's already in /var/cache/apt/archives/ | 11:28 |
| onla | so apt-get install packages aswell as apt-get download packages go to that directory and stay there for only some amount of time before getting auto deleted? and those that I apt-get downloaded there, I have to manny install as I would normally do when installing from .deb files? | 12:05 |
| onla | s/manny/manually | 12:06 |
| Unit193 | download = go to current, you just want the deb. When you do updates, it'll cache them there unless you use apt-get autoclean and they are no longer on the repo mirror. | 12:07 |
| onla | ah, so I can do apt-get download, and when I go offline and want to install, I do apt-get update | 12:08 |
| Unit193 | No. | 12:08 |
| onla | I tried apt-get download and then checking with ls /var/cache/apt/archives/ the file I fetched is not there though | 12:10 |
| hateball | onla: apt-get download fetches to current directory | 12:11 |
| hateball | and if you're in /var without proper permissions it wont do much | 12:12 |
| onla | oh i see | 12:12 |
| onla | so I'll fetch the packages with apt-get download. What's the proper way to then install them? | 12:12 |
| hateball | I'm not sure if there's any more "correct" way than with dpkg when you're installing them outside the repository | 12:13 |
| onla | ok | 12:16 |
| SonikkuAmerica | onla: Why not just [ apt-get install ] them? | 12:16 |
| onla | I need to uninstall network manager and uninstall wicd and then install wicd, and only way for me to be online with this machine is by using network manager right now | 12:17 |
| onla | and apt-get install requires me to be online | 12:18 |
| onla | or maybe I just keep using this network manager.. it just doesn't show me the signal strength | 12:20 |
| onla | maybe I could check it on cmd line | 12:20 |
| hateball | iwconfig / iwlist | 12:20 |
| onla | ye iwconfig shows ok.. I wonder why ppl want to use wicd then | 12:20 |
| hateball | old habits die hard | 12:21 |
| hateball | Maybe a long time ago network-manager stole their baby and they never forgave it | 12:21 |
| onla | :) | 12:21 |
| Glorfindel | Can you try lubuntu without installing it? I tried but couldn't figure it out | 13:36 |
| Mikaela | When you boot your system from Lubuntu CD or USB it should ask you if you want to try without installing or install it. | 13:38 |
| Glorfindel | That option didn | 13:39 |
| Glorfindel | 't | 13:39 |
| Glorfindel | show | 13:39 |
| phillw | Glorfindel: I think you downloaded the alternate ISO, which doesn't have the 'Try' option. | 13:48 |
| Glorfindel | ok | 13:48 |
| Glorfindel | so get the other one? | 13:49 |
| phillw | Glorfindel: yes, you need desktop version to have the 'Try' option. | 13:52 |
| Glorfindel | Ok, I got the alternate one because it used less ram | 13:53 |
| Glorfindel | Thanks for the help :) | 13:53 |
| phillw | it uses less ram to install. how much ram have you got? | 13:54 |
| Glorfindel | 256 mb | 13:54 |
| phillw | you'd be better using the alternate for install. But you can try lubuntu using the desktop, just bear in mind it will be slow on your machine! | 13:55 |
| Glorfindel | yeah I suppose | 13:56 |
| Glorfindel | it has xp on it right now | 13:56 |
| Glorfindel | suprisingly fast all things considered | 13:57 |
| phillw | the installed system will be fast, but running from the CD (the 'Try' option) will be slow :) | 13:59 |
| Glorfindel | ok | 13:59 |
| Glorfindel | well thats fine then | 13:59 |
| Glorfindel | what is the recommended min disk space? | 13:59 |
| phillw | the absolute minimum would be ~5GB but that would not leave much room for files. | 14:00 |
| Glorfindel | hmm, time to go free some more :) | 14:01 |
| phillw | For test machines, I allocate 10GB, but the more you allocate the more you can save, this is more important if you have videos or a large music / image collection | 14:01 |
| Glorfindel | no, non of that yet | 14:02 |
| Glorfindel | *none | 14:02 |
| phillw | the system itself takes ~ 2Gb | 14:02 |
| Glorfindel | Alright | 14:08 |
| Glorfindel | that could work | 14:08 |
| Glorfindel | thanks again | 14:08 |
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| pmatulis | looks like the 14.04 installer does not recognize encrypted devices | 14:31 |
| pantomime | any one using solarized with i3? | 16:15 |
| gruntz | Hi! I would like to switch from xubuntu to lubuntu and I have one question; I do have an encrypted home directory, how to do reinstall without changing name of current username that I use? | 16:17 |
| holstein | gruntz: you dont need to. you can just install lxde.. lubuntu and xubuntu are ubuntu | 16:28 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get instalal lxde | 16:28 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get install lxde | 16:28 |
| holstein | gruntz: you can refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu | 16:29 |
| gruntz | I'd like to perform clean install | 16:29 |
| holstein | gruntz: go for it. you dont need to to do what you are trying to do | 16:29 |
| holstein | you should have a backup of you data regardless, since all hard drives fail | 16:29 |
| holstein | i would open the enncrypted directory, in the simplest easiest way, and make a copy/backup of my data and config files.. and put them back in the fresh install | 16:30 |
| gruntz | holstein: but if installer will ask me for username of new account and then if I call it the same, how would that act? I mean, there will be no conflict that /home/$USER is already created? | 16:32 |
| gruntz | and /home/.ecryptfs | 16:32 |
| holstein | gruntz: i would have my data backed up, regardless, and deal with how anythig "acts" at that point | 16:32 |
| pantomime | you might get into some uid wonkyness, I think a clean install when dealing with encrypted drives is best | 16:33 |
| holstein | ^ agreed | 16:33 |
| holstein | and i would just move my data in to the new encrypted environment.. i wouldnd try and move the enctypted scenario | 16:34 |
| gruntz | so ok | 16:41 |
| gruntz | I do an reinstall | 16:41 |
| gruntz | everything goes fine | 16:42 |
| gruntz | it asks me for username | 16:42 |
| gruntz | then I give it same as it exists on /home partition | 16:42 |
| gruntz | and installer will handle it? | 16:42 |
| gruntz | without errors? | 16:42 |
| gruntz | or will it ask me for key to encrypted files? | 16:42 |
| pantomime | unless you formnat that partition | 16:42 |
| gruntz | okay | 16:43 |
| holstein | gruntz: i would not have put the data in place by then.. i would just wait, and open the enctrypted partition and put my data back in.. | 16:43 |
| gruntz | holstein: that's what I always do | 16:43 |
| pantomime | which is what holstein is suggestion, move the data, format over it and make a new encrypted drive | 16:43 |
| gruntz | but it's too much work, I'm lazy ;) | 16:43 |
| pantomime | move the data back | 16:43 |
| gruntz | ah... | 16:43 |
| holstein | lazy wont save the data, or make it easiest.. but, i would have backups regardless.. and for me, at least a temporary unencrypted, easiely read-able version of the data and configs i want.. on a seperate drive. that i can easily see, and access and copy back to whatever i want need// | 16:44 |
| pantomime | looking at a lot more work if he doesnt back them up and cant get to that partition post installation | 16:46 |
| Glorfindel | Is there any reason for lubuntu to not work in a VM? It says that the kernal doesn't support the processer | 20:57 |
| Unit193 | You don't have PAE enabled in the VMs config. | 20:58 |
| ianorlin | ah yeah been there done that what hypervisor Glorfindel | 20:59 |
| Glorfindel | It worked! thanks :) | 21:05 |
| Glorfindel | and what do you mean ianorlin?\ | 21:05 |
| ianorlin | nevermind you solved the problem I meant hypervisor as the thing that runs the vms | 21:10 |
| rafaellaguna | hello all | 21:10 |
| Glorfindel | ok | 21:10 |
| Glorfindel | thanks anyway :) | 21:10 |
| onla | the network-manager didnt connect automatically to my wlan network eventhough I tagged in gui to connect. I didn't know how to connect cus in that gui there is no connect button. Also can't "save" settings there if I don't edit password. So I edited password by resetting it there and untagging auto connect and save, then reset and and tagged auto connect and save. Only now it connected to the network :( | 21:37 |
| onla | I'll try sudo service network-manager restart next time | 21:41 |
| onla | the password field is empty after I have saved it | 21:52 |
| onla | ok, tagging the "all users" saved the pw and it auto connects ok tks bye | 22:02 |
| onla | and see you soon | 22:02 |
| Autoclesis | How do I force quit a program | 22:30 |
| wxl | Autoclesis: there are so many ways to do it it's silly :) what program? | 22:31 |
| Autoclesis | hey wxl ! | 22:31 |
| Autoclesis | Pithos | 22:31 |
| wxl | !info pithos | 22:31 |
| ubottu | pithos (source: pithos): Pandora Radio client for the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.17-2 (trusty), package size 133 kB, installed size 528 kB | 22:31 |
| Autoclesis | All functions have frozen | 22:31 |
| wxl | i see | 22:31 |
| wxl | should just be able to pop open a terminal and do "killall pithos" | 22:31 |
| wxl | or alt-f2 | 22:32 |
| wxl | (run) | 22:32 |
| Autoclesis | okay | 22:32 |
| wxl | xkill is simple, too. you can run it (again, alt-f2 works) and click on the window you want to kill | 22:32 |
| Autoclesis | Excellent | 22:32 |
| Autoclesis | it worked | 22:32 |
| wxl | you can also use the task manager but that's a pain in the backside | 22:32 |
| Autoclesis | Pithos works fine but I used the built in "manage radio" function and it froze | 22:33 |
| Autoclesis | Gracias, wxl | 22:33 |
| wxl | Autoclesis: no experience with it so don't know what to tell you about that but de nada | 22:33 |
| Autoclesis | It works again. :) | 22:33 |
| Autoclesis | I will just avoid the advanced functions | 22:34 |
| Autoclesis | !info mypaint | 22:34 |
| ubottu | mypaint (source: mypaint): paint program for use with graphics tablets. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.0-3 (trusty), package size 435 kB, installed size 1698 kB | 22:34 |
| wxl | Autoclesis: there's also #pithos here | 22:35 |
| Autoclesis | ah! | 22:35 |
| wxl | Autoclesis: bug tracker here https://github.com/pithos/pithos/issues | 22:35 |
| wxl | when in doubt, google ;) | 22:35 |
| Autoclesis | Should I tell someone something? | 22:35 |
| Autoclesis | lol | 22:35 |
| wxl | it might be good to ask if it's a known issue | 22:35 |
| Autoclesis | fair enough | 22:35 |
| wxl | Autoclesis: how much memory do you have on your machine? | 22:43 |
| Autoclesis | I'm not sure | 22:43 |
| Autoclesis | It had Windows XP and then Ubuntu 12 and now Lubuntu | 22:43 |
| wxl | Autoclesis: "cat /proc/meminfo | grep Mem" in terminal. it will tell you how many kB total and how many free | 22:44 |
| Autoclesis | okay | 22:44 |
| wxl | are you new to linux? | 22:44 |
| Autoclesis | UXTerm or Xterm? | 22:44 |
| Autoclesis | not really | 22:45 |
| Autoclesis | just dumb | 22:45 |
| wxl | doesn't matter. i'd probably use lxterminal if i were you | 22:45 |
| wxl | Autoclesis: dumb and unaware are not the same thing, my friend. :) | 22:45 |
| Autoclesis | thanks | 22:45 |
| wxl | i mean you MIGHT be dumb but i'm giving you the benefit of the doubt ;) | 22:45 |
| Autoclesis | They are asking me stuff on #pithos | 22:48 |
| Autoclesis | ahhh | 22:48 |
| Autoclesis | Thanks again, wxl ! | 23:23 |
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