[01:12] hi all, new to Ubuntu/lubuntu, wanting to help out with testing. Anyone up for walking me through updating wiki pages? [01:18] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing is the wiki page for testing [01:27] danke @iannorlin === S-USA is now known as SonikkuAmerica [02:35] having some issues disablin screen blanking and screen locking [02:36] i followed this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/130808/stop-xscreensaver-from-locking-screen-once-screensaver-starts. screen still blanks and locks. [02:37] is this 14.04? [02:37] yeah should be. installed lubuntu-desktop over the top of gnome-ubuntu( or what ever the gnome-shell variant is called) [02:37] so it's not xscreen saver, but lightlocker? [02:38] oh set lightlocker not to autostart automatically in defualt apps for lxsession [02:38] does that disable the workflow: lock workstation > blank screen ? [02:39] i mean my other option is to work out how to run synergy on the lock screen [02:39] oh you just want to stop the automatic timeouts [02:39] one or the other [02:39] synergy on lock screen or stop timeouts [11:19] hmm.. I am having bad password problem with the wicd. I would like to try the fix method of uninstalling network-manager and then reinstalling wicd. However I don't have a wired connection available, so I can't uinstall network manager, because I am connected thru that(cus wicd doesnt work). So I was wondering how I can download wicd and all dependencies to some directory smoothly, or do I really have to go to http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/all/wicd [11:21] apt-get download if you know the package list. [11:22] ok tks [11:26] afdter doing that, can I then use apt-get install package-name offline to install them, or will it download .deb files to some location where i need to dpkg install them or some other method [11:26] I guess I can search answer to that from google, but I try ask, cus it would be slow with mobile :) [11:28] No, apt-get install with the version in Trusty won't work like that. If you recently downloaded the current version, it's already in /var/cache/apt/archives/ [12:05] so apt-get install packages aswell as apt-get download packages go to that directory and stay there for only some amount of time before getting auto deleted? and those that I apt-get downloaded there, I have to manny install as I would normally do when installing from .deb files? [12:06] s/manny/manually [12:07] download = go to current, you just want the deb. When you do updates, it'll cache them there unless you use apt-get autoclean and they are no longer on the repo mirror. [12:08] ah, so I can do apt-get download, and when I go offline and want to install, I do apt-get update [12:08] No. [12:10] I tried apt-get download and then checking with ls /var/cache/apt/archives/ the file I fetched is not there though [12:11] onla: apt-get download fetches to current directory [12:12] and if you're in /var without proper permissions it wont do much [12:12] oh i see [12:12] so I'll fetch the packages with apt-get download. What's the proper way to then install them? [12:13] I'm not sure if there's any more "correct" way than with dpkg when you're installing them outside the repository [12:16] ok [12:16] onla: Why not just [ apt-get install ] them? [12:17] I need to uninstall network manager and uninstall wicd and then install wicd, and only way for me to be online with this machine is by using network manager right now [12:18] and apt-get install requires me to be online [12:20] or maybe I just keep using this network manager.. it just doesn't show me the signal strength [12:20] maybe I could check it on cmd line [12:20] iwconfig / iwlist [12:20] ye iwconfig shows ok.. I wonder why ppl want to use wicd then [12:21] old habits die hard [12:21] Maybe a long time ago network-manager stole their baby and they never forgave it [12:21] :) [13:36] Can you try lubuntu without installing it? I tried but couldn't figure it out [13:38] When you boot your system from Lubuntu CD or USB it should ask you if you want to try without installing or install it. [13:39] That option didn [13:39] 't [13:39] show [13:48] Glorfindel: I think you downloaded the alternate ISO, which doesn't have the 'Try' option. [13:48] ok [13:49] so get the other one? [13:52] Glorfindel: yes, you need desktop version to have the 'Try' option. [13:53] Ok, I got the alternate one because it used less ram [13:53] Thanks for the help :) [13:54] it uses less ram to install. how much ram have you got? [13:54] 256 mb [13:55] you'd be better using the alternate for install. But you can try lubuntu using the desktop, just bear in mind it will be slow on your machine! [13:56] yeah I suppose [13:56] it has xp on it right now [13:57] suprisingly fast all things considered [13:59] the installed system will be fast, but running from the CD (the 'Try' option) will be slow :) [13:59] ok [13:59] well thats fine then [13:59] what is the recommended min disk space? [14:00] the absolute minimum would be ~5GB but that would not leave much room for files. [14:01] hmm, time to go free some more :) [14:01] For test machines, I allocate 10GB, but the more you allocate the more you can save, this is more important if you have videos or a large music / image collection [14:02] no, non of that yet [14:02] *none [14:02] the system itself takes ~ 2Gb [14:08] Alright [14:08] that could work [14:08] thanks again === S-USA is now known as SonikkuAmerica [14:31] looks like the 14.04 installer does not recognize encrypted devices [16:15] any one using solarized with i3? [16:17] Hi! I would like to switch from xubuntu to lubuntu and I have one question; I do have an encrypted home directory, how to do reinstall without changing name of current username that I use? [16:28] gruntz: you dont need to. you can just install lxde.. lubuntu and xubuntu are ubuntu [16:28] sudo apt-get instalal lxde [16:28] sudo apt-get install lxde [16:29] gruntz: you can refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu [16:29] I'd like to perform clean install [16:29] gruntz: go for it. you dont need to to do what you are trying to do [16:29] you should have a backup of you data regardless, since all hard drives fail [16:30] i would open the enncrypted directory, in the simplest easiest way, and make a copy/backup of my data and config files.. and put them back in the fresh install [16:32] holstein: but if installer will ask me for username of new account and then if I call it the same, how would that act? I mean, there will be no conflict that /home/$USER is already created? [16:32] and /home/.ecryptfs [16:32] gruntz: i would have my data backed up, regardless, and deal with how anythig "acts" at that point [16:33] you might get into some uid wonkyness, I think a clean install when dealing with encrypted drives is best [16:33] ^ agreed [16:34] and i would just move my data in to the new encrypted environment.. i wouldnd try and move the enctypted scenario [16:41] so ok [16:41] I do an reinstall [16:42] everything goes fine [16:42] it asks me for username [16:42] then I give it same as it exists on /home partition [16:42] and installer will handle it? [16:42] without errors? [16:42] or will it ask me for key to encrypted files? [16:42] unless you formnat that partition [16:43] okay [16:43] gruntz: i would not have put the data in place by then.. i would just wait, and open the enctrypted partition and put my data back in.. [16:43] holstein: that's what I always do [16:43] which is what holstein is suggestion, move the data, format over it and make a new encrypted drive [16:43] but it's too much work, I'm lazy ;) [16:43] move the data back [16:43] ah... [16:44] lazy wont save the data, or make it easiest.. but, i would have backups regardless.. and for me, at least a temporary unencrypted, easiely read-able version of the data and configs i want.. on a seperate drive. that i can easily see, and access and copy back to whatever i want need// [16:46] looking at a lot more work if he doesnt back them up and cant get to that partition post installation [20:57] Is there any reason for lubuntu to not work in a VM? It says that the kernal doesn't support the processer [20:58] You don't have PAE enabled in the VMs config. [20:59] ah yeah been there done that what hypervisor Glorfindel [21:05] It worked! thanks :) [21:05] and what do you mean ianorlin?\ [21:10] nevermind you solved the problem I meant hypervisor as the thing that runs the vms [21:10] hello all [21:10] ok [21:10] thanks anyway :) [21:37] the network-manager didnt connect automatically to my wlan network eventhough I tagged in gui to connect. I didn't know how to connect cus in that gui there is no connect button. Also can't "save" settings there if I don't edit password. So I edited password by resetting it there and untagging auto connect and save, then reset and and tagged auto connect and save. Only now it connected to the network :( [21:41] I'll try sudo service network-manager restart next time [21:52] the password field is empty after I have saved it [22:02] ok, tagging the "all users" saved the pw and it auto connects ok tks bye [22:02] and see you soon [22:30] How do I force quit a program [22:31] Autoclesis: there are so many ways to do it it's silly :) what program? [22:31] hey wxl ! [22:31] Pithos [22:31] !info pithos [22:31] pithos (source: pithos): Pandora Radio client for the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.17-2 (trusty), package size 133 kB, installed size 528 kB [22:31] All functions have frozen [22:31] i see [22:31] should just be able to pop open a terminal and do "killall pithos" [22:32] or alt-f2 [22:32] (run) [22:32] okay [22:32] xkill is simple, too. you can run it (again, alt-f2 works) and click on the window you want to kill [22:32] Excellent [22:32] it worked [22:32] you can also use the task manager but that's a pain in the backside [22:33] Pithos works fine but I used the built in "manage radio" function and it froze [22:33] Gracias, wxl [22:33] Autoclesis: no experience with it so don't know what to tell you about that but de nada [22:33] It works again. :) [22:34] I will just avoid the advanced functions [22:34] !info mypaint [22:34] mypaint (source: mypaint): paint program for use with graphics tablets. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.0-3 (trusty), package size 435 kB, installed size 1698 kB [22:35] Autoclesis: there's also #pithos here [22:35] ah! [22:35] Autoclesis: bug tracker here https://github.com/pithos/pithos/issues [22:35] when in doubt, google ;) [22:35] Should I tell someone something? [22:35] lol [22:35] it might be good to ask if it's a known issue [22:35] fair enough [22:43] Autoclesis: how much memory do you have on your machine? [22:43] I'm not sure [22:43] It had Windows XP and then Ubuntu 12 and now Lubuntu [22:44] Autoclesis: "cat /proc/meminfo | grep Mem" in terminal. it will tell you how many kB total and how many free [22:44] okay [22:44] are you new to linux? [22:44] UXTerm or Xterm? [22:45] not really [22:45] just dumb [22:45] doesn't matter. i'd probably use lxterminal if i were you [22:45] Autoclesis: dumb and unaware are not the same thing, my friend. :) [22:45] thanks [22:45] i mean you MIGHT be dumb but i'm giving you the benefit of the doubt ;) [22:48] They are asking me stuff on #pithos [22:48] ahhh [23:23] Thanks again, wxl !