| pitti | Good morning | 05:32 |
|---|---|---|
| didrocks | morning | 06:01 |
| larsu | morning :) | 06:01 |
| didrocks | hey larsu! How was your week-end ? | 06:03 |
| larsu | didrocks: great thanks (except for the weather)! How was yours? | 06:05 |
| didrocks | larsu: splendid, but really warm weather here. Was great! And today, thunderstorms and rain | 06:05 |
| larsu | you can never know in the south of france! | 06:07 |
| Laney | hey hey hey | 08:02 |
| RAOF | Ho ho ho! | 08:06 |
| didrocks | hey Laney, RAOF! | 08:09 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 08:10 |
| seb128 | hey Laney RAOF didrocks | 08:10 |
| didrocks | hey seb128 | 08:10 |
| Laney | greetings! | 08:11 |
| Laney | how's it going? | 08:11 |
| Laney | did you have good weekends? | 08:11 |
| seb128 | going good! | 08:11 |
| seb128 | yes, weather was sunny and nice, TV had some nice football games, France had music festivals this w.e (our early "music fest" where most town organize events) | 08:12 |
| seb128 | even played some tennis yesterday ;-) | 08:13 |
| seb128 | you? | 08:13 |
| Laney | yes it was quite warm here too, was scared of getting sun burn ;-) | 08:14 |
| Laney | I went home to visit the family, made some beer with my dad and hung out with bbq | 08:14 |
| Laney | quite relaxed! | 08:14 |
| seb128 | nice | 08:14 |
| seb128 | you are making beer? is the result drinkable? ;-) | 08:15 |
| Laney | find out in a few weeks :P | 08:15 |
| seb128 | right | 08:15 |
| Laney | dad's taken up the hobby recently | 08:15 |
| seb128 | was it the first time you try? | 08:15 |
| Laney | wanted to show me how it was done | 08:15 |
| seb128 | oh ok, nice | 08:15 |
| Laney | well i have done it from beer kits before | 08:15 |
| Laney | but this was the full thing | 08:16 |
| Laney | like starting with grains | 08:16 |
| seb128 | cool | 08:16 |
| seb128 | sounds like a fun thing to try to do, at least once | 08:16 |
| Laney | could be a good hobby if you can make beer that actually tastes good ;-) | 08:17 |
| seb128 | yeah | 08:17 |
| xnox | Laney: anything that my dad ever made, smelled and tasted much stronger than beer should.... | 08:33 |
| Laney | haha | 08:34 |
| Laney | yeah he likes them strong too ... | 08:34 |
| xnox | in other news, I've ordered my first Dyson | 08:49 |
| xnox | which hopefully will act better than current karcher | 08:49 |
| seb128 | xnox, Dyson is a brand, what did you buy from them? a vacuum cleaner? | 08:50 |
| xnox | seb128: yeah, vacuum cleaner DC54 | 08:50 |
| xnox | seb128: well, a brand and (at least in the UK) it is assumed vacuum cleaner line of theirs. | 08:52 |
| seb128 | right, I was just unsure because you said you had a karcher and I didn't know they did vaccum cleaners ;-) | 08:53 |
| xnox | oh, right =) | 08:53 |
| xnox | seb128: karcher in your opinion would be a high pressure water car/garrage cleaner? | 08:54 |
| seb128 | yes | 08:54 |
| xnox | yeah, should use fully qualified product names. | 08:54 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 08:54 |
| ochosi | hey seb128! was away for a few days (mountains) so i only saw your comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~ochosi/xdg-utils/support_xfce/+merge/223206 today | 08:55 |
| seb128 | ochosi, hey | 08:56 |
| ochosi | seb128: i guess there's no way of "redirecting" that MR apart from filing a new/correct one? | 08:56 |
| seb128 | right, I think you need to "resubmit" in the top right corner options | 08:57 |
| seb128 | which basically resends a new one | 08:57 |
| ochosi | ok, done | 08:58 |
| ochosi | finally the diff is more reasonable :) | 08:59 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 08:59 |
| ochosi | fwiw, i'm really not sure the alternative solution that upstream suggested makes sense... | 09:00 |
| ochosi | thing is, xdg-screensaver already checks for specific DEs, why it doesn't act on that knowledge is a miracle to me | 09:00 |
| ochosi | and the fix isn't distro-specific, just DE specific | 09:00 |
| seb128 | right | 09:02 |
| ochosi | i'll add another reply to the upstream bugreport though.. | 09:02 |
| ochosi | seb128: also, this one can be done either way: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-utils/+bug/1330386 | 09:05 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1330386 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu) "The xserver-blanking patch in Ubuntu duplicates code" [Undecided,New] | 09:05 |
| seb128 | ochosi, right, does that create any issue? I was just waiting for the other changes to batch those | 09:06 |
| ochosi | seb128: no, sure, you can also do both in one go. just wanted to make sure that part doesn't get lost ;) | 09:07 |
| seb128 | yeah, don't worry, thanks for opening a bug about it ;-) | 09:07 |
| ochosi | :) | 09:08 |
| * didrocks is puzzled on some tests… | 09:13 | |
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| ochosi | seb128: m, one more question (never dealt with stuff that needs packaging), is there anything i can do for this to move along? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1000416 | 09:55 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1000416 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Thunar Dropbox" [Wishlist,In progress] | 09:55 |
| ochosi | (if the bugreport is already complete and correct, that's all i wanted to know then) | 09:55 |
| seb128 | ochosi, not really, it's in the sponsoring queue, just need somebody picking it up there | 09:56 |
| ochosi | okeydokey, thanks! | 09:57 |
| ochosi | seb128: will try to ping you less about stuff like that, i promise! | 09:57 |
| seb128 | ochosi, no worry, feel free to ask questions on the channel ;-) | 09:57 |
| ochosi | will do :) | 09:58 |
| thedoctor | hi | 10:09 |
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| darkxst | pitti, can api additions be SRU'ed? we really need this to fix our biggest crasher in gjs https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=729662 | 11:23 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 729662 in introspection "Parse and expose ownership transfer for instance parameters" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 11:23 |
| pitti | darkxst: should be ok as long as they don't change existing API | 11:24 |
| darkxst | pitti, ok, it doesn't change any existing API | 11:25 |
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| GunnarHj | Hi seb128 | 13:01 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, hey | 13:01 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Did you talk to Sweetshark about bug 1308771? I'm kind of wondering why it wasn't just uploaded. | 13:02 |
| ubot5 | bug 1308771 in openoffice.org-hyphenation (Ubuntu Trusty) "Update Swedish spellcheck and hyphenation dictionaries" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1308771 | 13:02 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, he asked me about it, I told him I think it's fine but he should check with the SRU team if they are fine adding new binaries that way | 13:02 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Ok.. I just want it in before the 14.04.1 release. | 13:03 |
| seb128 | k | 13:03 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark is on holiday this week and next, but we still have some room after that (and others can sponsor that as well) | 13:04 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: If it's uploaded, the SRU team will have it for consideration automatically, right? | 13:05 |
| seb128 | yes | 13:05 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Any chance... ? | 13:05 |
| seb128 | though it's easier to have a direct conversation with them to sort out details | 13:05 |
| seb128 | than go through queue review reject/and comment back on why it was rejected | 13:05 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: What's the best channel to ask them directly? | 13:07 |
| seb128 | #ubuntu-devel is probably fine for that | 13:07 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Ok, I'll give it a shot. | 13:08 |
| seb128 | k | 13:08 |
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| tseliot | seb128: hey, do you remember how to use GDK_SYNCHRONIZE to debug the gnome-settings-daemon? exporting GDK_SYNCHRONIZE=1 doesn't seem to have any effect in Precise | 14:22 |
| tseliot | I'm trying to debug an issue with X that apport doesn't collect | 14:22 |
| seb128 | tseliot, the GTK in precise maybe didn't have that yet, before you had to use --sync | 14:24 |
| tseliot | seb128: that doesn't seem to work either | 14:24 |
| seb128 | tseliot, https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?id=902fd60a86e8e40b87b4ea0c4a8a9dd04f2f8d08 | 14:25 |
| seb128 | tseliot, seems like that was changed before precise | 14:26 |
| seb128 | tseliot, well, how do you try to debug? | 14:26 |
| tseliot | seb128: that's from 2010, also the g-s-d suggests that I use the env variable | 14:26 |
| seb128 | you should export GDK_SYNCHRONIZE=1 | 14:26 |
| seb128 | then b gdk_x_error | 14:26 |
| tseliot | that's what I'm doing | 14:26 |
| tseliot | but I keep getting no backtrace and the same warning that tells me to use that env variable | 14:26 |
| tseliot | seb128: apparently only adding a break point on _XError works | 14:29 |
| tseliot | still, it should be documented | 14:29 |
| seb128 | tseliot, yeah, I was checking for that | 14:29 |
| tseliot | seb128: I'm glad that at least it works with _XError. I wish the error that gtk+ throws could be updated | 14:33 |
| seb128 | yeah | 14:34 |
| seb128 | tseliot, open a bug upstream about the error being confusing | 14:34 |
| tseliot | seb128: I will, when I'm done with this issue | 14:35 |
| seb128 | great | 14:35 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, hey | 14:38 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, I'm playing with your u-s-s bluetooth changes but it behaves a bit weirdly | 14:39 |
| seb128 | if I turn bluetooth off, the "discoverable" line keeps spinning for ever, and the "connect other devices" spinners goes off and on | 14:39 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, is that known/wanted? | 14:39 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, turning the bluetooth back on doesn't seem to work either :/ | 14:45 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, unping, I've been told you are on vac this week, enjoy ;-) | 15:11 |
| Laney | bahahaha merges.ubuntu.com shows a libreoffice merge for me | 15:29 |
| Laney | YEAH RIGHT | 15:29 |
| seb128 | Laney, it's your lucky day, infinity just made what was needed to own it instead of you ;-) | 15:34 |
| Laney | perfecto | 15:37 |
| * didrocks sees Laney "phewing" ;) | 15:39 | |
| cyphermox | seb128: thanks | 16:03 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, yw ;-) | 16:04 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, I landed those changes btw, we can deal with bugs and tweaks later | 16:04 |
| cyphermox | ah, cool | 16:07 |
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| cyphermox | indeed someone pointed out tweaks to the qml | 16:07 |
| seb128 | k, calling it a day, have a nice evening desktopers | 16:37 |
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| robert_ancell | mterry, debian/patches/0020-support-login.defs.patch in accountsservice is causing some problems for systems with uids > 60000 - why does Ubuntu Touch need this? | 22:09 |
| robert_ancell | And I'm wondering if we just need UID_MIN - getting rid of the upper limit might solve this | 22:12 |
| mterry | robert_ancell, in Touch, we have some system users with UIDs like 1000 and 1001 (I think "system" and "radio" or some such) | 22:31 |
| mterry | robert_ancell, so we just need MIN | 22:31 |
| mterry | robert_ancell, but that patch is reverting to historical usage I thought. Is this a new problem? | 22:32 |
| robert_ancell | mterry, We made u-g hide users that a-s thought were "system". It is using UID_MAX to determine this which doesn't seem correct | 22:32 |
| mterry | robert_ancell, right right | 22:33 |
| mterry | robert_ancell, and I'm just explaining why the patch continues using UID_MIN | 22:33 |
| mterry | robert_ancell, UID_MAX doesn't matter for Touch, so if it's causing problems, we can drop it | 22:33 |
| robert_ancell | Ok, so if I change it to just UID_MIN it should still work for you? | 22:33 |
| mterry | robert_ancell, yup | 22:33 |
| robert_ancell | thanks | 22:33 |
| mterry | robert_ancell, but again I'm just a little confused, is this a new problem or something that always happened? | 22:34 |
| robert_ancell | I can't think of any reason why you'd want a max value | 22:34 |
| mterry | because I thought that patch just put us back to historical usage | 22:34 |
| robert_ancell | We changed to the "correct" behaviour in lightdm 1.9.3 in hiding system users | 22:34 |
| robert_ancell | which would mean this was a behaviour change in 14.04 LTS. I think the LTS upgraders with big systems are now noticing it | 22:35 |
| mterry | ? we've always hidden system users in greeters I thought | 22:35 |
| robert_ancell | nope | 22:35 |
| robert_ancell | well, I think we used another method, not honoring what a-s marks as system | 22:36 |
| robert_ancell | bug 1248541 was the change in lightdm | 22:38 |
| ubot5 | bug 1248541 in Light Display Manager 1.9 "root user displayed on greeter screen" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1248541 | 22:38 |
| robert_ancell | ah, that's right - a-s reports logged in users which might be system users and we weren't hiding those | 22:39 |
| robert_ancell | mterry, yeah, the UID_MAX change is not in 12.04 | 23:07 |
| mterry | robert_ancell, curious. AS must have added UID_MAX before removing them both | 23:08 |
| robert_ancell | mterry, the first implementation from Ray Strode just used UID_MIN, then desrt updated it to use UID_MAX as well, then Ray removed all login.defs support | 23:10 |
| mterry | robert_ancell, sounds right | 23:10 |
| robert_ancell | desrt, ^ Do you happen to know if there was a particular reason to use UID_MAX? | 23:10 |
| robert_ancell | mterry, was those system users because they came from android? | 23:30 |
| mterry | robert_ancell, yeah we needed to use same UIDs as android | 23:30 |
| robert_ancell | mterry, because the other method was just to add them to the blacklist which is what upstream solely relies on | 23:31 |
| robert_ancell | I guess there's always a risk that those usernames could be real users on some systems though | 23:31 |
| robert_ancell | yay for shitty barely defined unix legacy stuff | 23:31 |
| mterry | robert_ancell, so hacky to blacklist. Plus what you mention. Plus UID_MIN was a feature of Ubuntu, wasn't clear how dropping it would affect people | 23:32 |
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