[00:00] <sydney> daftykins: oops,sorry,i forgot about that. :-/
[00:00] <testing22> well fml, maybe it’s not a gzip archive
[00:01] <testing22> guess i need to take that up with the maintainers
[00:01] <testing22> sorry
[00:02] <whitepowder> testing22: does it show gzipped on the other machines? or same (posix tar)?
[00:02] <ryan123> Hello guys
[00:02] <whitepowder> testing22: file is much more reliable than dos-style extensions as it uses magic from the file to figure out what it is
[00:03] <daftykins> ryan123: hi
[00:03] <ryan123> I'm having troblue trying to install Vuze and OpenJDK 7
[00:03] <testing22> whitepowder all other machines are showing: druid-services-0.6.121-bin.tar.gz: POSIX tar archive
[00:03] <testing22> so i’m assuming that those machines are just automagically skipping the gunzip
[00:03] <ryan123> daftykins: I'm having troblue trying to install Vuze and OpenJDK 7
[00:03] <daftykins> testing22: i suspect if you were running extract commands expecting a gzipped tar, the versions on those platforms are just bright enough to realise it's not and carry on anyway
[00:03] <whitepowder> testing22: tar's probably just ignoring the z option then, tar will work without it entirely, see also tar xf whatever.tar.gz for example
[00:03] <daftykins> ryan123: yeah i saw you say, i was waiting for more detail
[00:03] <Ethos> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:pipelight/stable don't work, help.
[00:04] <testing22> makes sense
[00:04] <testing22> thanks a ton
[00:04] <|PuNKCaT|> I've been having some major issues with my desktop, was running 12.4 stable, but had a bunch of files missing after the original drive failed and the clonzilla didn't seem to copy properly, am installing 14.4 trusty over top, but it's been almost 24hours unpacking and installing.. is this normal?
[00:04] <ryan123> daftykins: Meaning?
[00:04] <daftykins> Ethos: that's probably because it's "add-apt-repository" iirc
[00:04] <whitepowder> testing22: np, file (and magic) rocks for this stuff
[00:05] <xangua> |PuNKCaT|: you are installing over top of a failing drive¿
[00:05] <ki7mt> +1 on file, can't live without that app
[00:05] <ryan123> daftykins: I've typed - ryan@RLW-PC:~$ sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help t
[00:05] <|PuNKCaT|> no, on a brand new hard drive
[00:05] <daftykins> !pastebin | ryan123
[00:05] <sydney> |PuNKCaT|: Are you installing from a cd?
[00:05] <hdon> hi all :) i'm trying to use reptyr(1) but i think apparmor is holding me up EVEN as root. using ubuntu 12.04. can anyone help?
[00:05] <testing22> yeah, it’s just for some reason now that version of tar packed with ubuntu is not automatically ignoring the z option. i’ll just run tar … || tar …
[00:06] <|PuNKCaT|> nope, installing from the website/ whatever
[00:06] <ryan123> !pastebin | daftykins
[00:06] <whitepowder> failed drives *suck* thats why im trying to piece together a thumbdrive that reinstalls and maybe even has a live system
[00:06] <ryan123> ;)
[00:06] <daftykins> ryan123: don't spam.
[00:06] <whitepowder> testing22: just ommit the z entirely unless creating an archive
[00:07] <testing22> whitepowder it’s possible that that archive could end up being gzipped in the future, will tar figure that out automatically?
[00:07] <ryan123> daftykins: help me then?
[00:07] <sydney> |PuNKCaT|: ah,you are upgrading?
[00:07] <|PuNKCaT|> yes
[00:08] <daftykins> ryan123: your paste wasn't complete, i'd need it pasted via the pastebin service as suggested.
[00:08] <whitepowder> testing22: Yes, bzip2 (and probably others) as well. I'm not sure exactly when this behaviour became default in gnu tar but i know its been many years, and bsdtar was that way forrrreeeeeeeevvvvvvvverrrrrr ago
[00:08] <|PuNKCaT|> trying to fix the errors by upgrading, because I don't want to lose the info on the drive
[00:08] <|PuNKCaT|> was cloned from the failing drive via clonezilla
[00:08] <|PuNKCaT|> but seems like the original was corrupted by that time :/
[00:08] <sydney> |PuNKCaT|: I dont have any experience,but i have heard it can take like 2 days to upgrade :-/
[00:08] <testing22> whitepowder: exellent, thanks for that info. i have a feeling that the lack of gzip is the way AmazonS3 is shipping that file, but i’ll ask the maintiners to confirm. for now i’ll just omit the z option. thanks a ton, again
[00:09] <|PuNKCaT|> holey fark, ok
[00:09] <daftykins> sydney: that's rubbish
[00:09] <daftykins> |PuNKCaT|: you should just clean install 14.04 to the new drive, then restore the /home by itself
[00:09] <sydney> daftykins: I didnt say it was true,thats just what ive heard. ;)
[00:09] <daftykins> !fud
[00:09] <ryan123> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7687822/
[00:10] <ryan123> daftykins: How's that, now will you please help me
[00:10] <|PuNKCaT|> how would I do that without losing everything on the err, what's it even called /documents
[00:10] <sydney> daftykins: :P I know,and didnt meat to. ;D
[00:10] <sydney> |Pumean*
[00:10] <sydney> oops!!
[00:10] <whitepowder> testing22: you're welcome. good luck
[00:10] <sydney> mean*
[00:11] <daftykins> ryan123: what version is this?
[00:11] <sydney> |PuNKCaT|: just wait,and see how long it takes to finish,bufore you do anything else. :D
[00:11] <|PuNKCaT|> alrightly
[00:11] <whitepowder> fwiw, i've *NEVER* seen an upgrade take over a day (and that was on a very slow connection)
[00:11] <ryan123> daftykins: 12.10
[00:12] <whitepowder> You might want to check dmesg from a console, just to see if theres disk io errors
[00:12] <daftykins> !eol | ryan123 i had a feeling that was the case
[00:12] <|PuNKCaT|> it's on a really old p4, and the net connection here is pretty shit
[00:12] <daftykins> ryan123: your version is outdated and can no longer be used or supported
[00:12] <daftykins> s/can/should/
[00:13] <daftykins> |PuNKCaT|: family friendly channel, careful on the language please
[00:13] <|PuNKCaT|> oh, sorry
[00:13] <ryan123> So i can't install Vuze or OpenJDK
[00:13] <daftykins> ryan123: you shouldn't carry on using that system at all until you upgrade to a supported release
[00:13] <|PuNKCaT|> whelp, I'll see how it goes, thanks anyway
[00:14] <ryan123> daftykins: WHATS THE LASTEST SUPPORT UBUNTU THEN
[00:14] <gr33n7007h> Currently supported: 10.04 LTS (server) 12.04 LTS,  13.10, and 14.04 LTS
[00:14] <k1l> ryan123: you should not be running 12.10 anymore. update to 14.04, that is a LTS release
[00:14] <whitepowder> ryan123: 12.04 and 14.04 are both LTS releases
[00:15] <testing22> ryan123: LTS
[00:15] <daftykins> ryan123: please don't use caps.
[00:15] <ryan123> k1l: shh
[00:15] <ryan123> whitepowder: shh
[00:15] <ryan123> testing22: shh
[00:15] <ryan123> daftykins: EH?
[00:16] <daftykins> ok, i'm done with your timewasting. you have your answer, goodbye
[00:16] <k1l> ryan123: please watch your attitude in here. this is a support channel run by volunteers and you are running a EOL ubuntu. dont blame us for that
[00:17] <whitepowder> Any suggestions? I've got a usb stick with syslinux, freedos, grub4dos, and my preseed configuration. I'd like to be able to install and maybe run a live system off this disk. It's in 2 partitions, one fat16 the other btrfs (can change to ext[234]) and i want to be able to either put an iso and some debs or put a pile of debs onto it. How to make this work?
[00:17] <daftykins> whitepowder: can't you just back it up and wipe it?
[00:18] <ki7mt> well., 10.04 server is still valid also, until next year I think
[00:18] <daftykins> you're kinda just making the task more difficult by artificially imposed restrictions
[00:18] <whitepowder>  daftykins: i'm trying to pretty much make a recovery disk here. Something that can install a (mostly) preconfigured system
[00:18] <daftykins> ki7mt: that was mentioned.
[00:18] <whitepowder> In fact, lets throw away the entire live thing, i'll deal with that later
[00:19] <daftykins> seems a bit beyond the scope of ubuntu support to try and make your own respin
[00:19] <ki7mt> lol .. ok, screen too small, scrollin by way to fast here. Channel topic says it all: Currently supported: 10.04 LTS (server) 12.04 LTS,  13.10, and 14.04 LTS
[00:19] <daftykins> whitepowder: you know install media has an 'OEM install' function built in? not sure if that's relevant to you
[00:19] <ki7mt> I suppose 13.10 is dead next month though
[00:19] <testing22> i thought 13 was already dead
[00:19] <daftykins> it sure is! *hums Queen - Another One Bites the Dust*
[00:20] <ki7mt> I believe it goes out in July
[00:20] <daftykins> 13.04 is EOL yes, but 13.10 next month
[00:20] <whitepowder> daftykins: basically preseed is what im going after, i can put my own deb's onto the disk and then all will be good
[00:20] <daftykins> yeah that's beyond the scope of support then imo
[00:21] <ki7mt> there's allot of folks that know / use preseed, gneral support for it probably best asked in -devel, motu or maybe even server
[00:22] <ki7mt> as they deal with that allot more than general users do.
[00:23] <testing22> whitepowder: that did the trick — it was a command in a puppet manifest, all services are back up and working now thanks to you
[00:23] <whitepowder> ki7mt: Thanks
[00:31] <Izaya> Question with setting desktop wallpaper
[00:31] <Izaya> I select an image, rclick, set as wallpaper - but it doesn't show it as my background
[00:31] <Izaya> any idea what's going on?>
[00:32] <Izaya> "The Image ____________ has been set as Desktop Background. Would you like to modify its appearance?
[00:32] <Izaya> yet nothing changes.
[00:35] <hunt> can anyone get Natural Selection 2 to work with the latest fglrx?
[00:35] <hunt> i just get a black screen forever
[00:37] <hunt> i just bought NS2
[00:38] <daftykins> is it a Linux game?
[00:39] <SchrodingersScat> daftykins: it's linux native on steam
[00:40] <daftykins> SchrodingersScat: good good, wasn't gonna touch another situation with a barge pole
[00:41] <gr33n7007h> Izaya, Try: "gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri file:///path/to/image.jpg"
[00:42] <Izaya> thans green!
[00:43] <Izaya> thanks gr33n7007h !
[00:43] <gr33n7007h> Izaya, np
[00:45] <hunt> Yea its a linux game
[00:46] <hunt> also their support email doesnt exist :(
[00:46] <yigal> I want to open all ports, for test, using UFW, what command can I use to do this?
[00:46] <daftykins> i think there's an #ubuntu-steam
[00:46] <yigal> s/test/&ing
[00:46] <daftykins> yigal: "sudo iptables -F" then "sudo iptables -X" (may need to install iptables, not sure)
[00:47] <maxvi> did use anybody i3 tile manager inside unity ?
[00:47] <yigal> daftykins: no, that makes sense just flush it all
[00:47] <yigal> daftykins: good call
[00:47] <daftykins> *nod*
[00:47] <oneof3> hello. when i choose reboot it wont. It kind of just shuts down and goes black then tried to reboot. Any idea what the issue is?
[00:48] <oneof3> so i have to hard shutdown and then it boots normally*
[00:53] <AleksejsM> Hi
[00:53] <daftykins> hello
[00:56] <AleksejsM> I have a problem with network-manager after release-upgrade and as the result, my system doesn't work at all
[00:56] <daftykins> AleksejsM: won't even boot?
[00:58] <AleksejsM> It all started with release-upgrade. After I did it, wireless stopped working. I found a solution for my wireless adapter on askubuntu, but after I did those steps, system stopped working
[00:58] <daftykins> so what are you left with now, does it boot? does it reach the desktop?
[00:58] <AleksejsM> It boots right till DE starts, and then it just hangs
[00:59] <daftykins> can you cable it in to your router direct to finish the upgrade?
[00:59] <AleksejsM> It asks for passwors then boots configuration and thats all
[00:59] <tb01110100> does curl come with ubuntu?
[00:59] <daftykins> "boots configuration" ?
[01:00] <AleksejsM> I mean loads my config, session etc
[01:00] <ianorlin> curl is in repos but not in default install
[01:00] <AleksejsM> But then it hangs
[01:00] <daftykins> AleksejsM: so can you cable in and finish the upgrade?
[01:01] <AleksejsM> Upgrade is finished
[01:01] <daftykins> AleksejsM: what version is it on now?
[01:02] <AleksejsM> I guess 13.10 but cant check
[01:02] <daftykins> hit ctrl+alt+F1 then login
[01:02] <daftykins> then run "cat /etc/issue"
[01:02] <AleksejsM> Cant
[01:02] <daftykins> can't what
[01:03] <AleksejsM> I press ctrl+alt+f# and it hangs
[01:03] <daftykins> sounds like your machine is toast, do you have a liveCD handy?
[01:04] <AleksejsM> No
[01:04] <daftykins> can you make one?
[01:04] <AleksejsM> Ok, after some 100th restart I got to cli
[01:05] <AleksejsM> 13.10
[01:05] <daftykins> AleksejsM: what does 'sudo apt-get -f install' show?
[01:07] <AleksejsM> Nothing, it seems like it waits for connection
[01:07] <daftykins> ah you're not online, yes i forgot that already, doh
[01:07] <daftykins> soo... can you connect into your router with a network cable?
[01:08] <AleksejsM> I tried
[01:08] <AleksejsM> But even ifconfig gives nothing
[01:08] <daftykins> that's ok, you do get eth0 though right?
[01:09] <AleksejsM> No
[01:09] <daftykins> wat
[01:09] <daftykins> "ifconfig -a"
[01:09] <AleksejsM> It hangs, and ^C does not help
[01:10] <daftykins> :S
[01:10] <daftykins> do you have much user data to backup? that system seems hosed
[01:10] <AleksejsM> Can I remove that network-manager somehow?
[01:10] <Sunstream> I don't know how I got Unity to work on 512 megs but I did
[01:11] <daftykins> AleksejsM: that's not what's at fault, NM is always there
[01:11] <daftykins> AleksejsM: it's backup, download 14.04 and clean install time
[01:11] <Sunstream> It did however rear its ugly head of slowness with browsing and trying to play dvds
[01:11] <AleksejsM> Wait
[01:12] <Sunstream> lubuntu allows me to do this
[01:12] <AleksejsM> After some 3 minutes ifconfig showed one line
[01:13] <daftykins> O_O
[01:13] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Unity takes a fare amount of resource aka-RAM to run properly, 512MB means your probably caching to the HD a fare amount.
[01:13] <Sunstream> If anyone has speed issues and have less than a gig of ram do not run Unity get another enviorment starting with lubuntu. lubuntu is good for those who transistioned from windows, or has low specs. :) In my opinion I should of installed this :)
[01:13] <Sunstream> yep
[01:13] <AleksejsM> Bridge firewalling registered
[01:13]  * Fall is using XFCE
[01:13] <daftykins> Sunstream: support questions only thanks
[01:14] <Sunstream> That was the case but its fixed now
[01:14] <AleksejsM> And gui started :-D
[01:15] <AleksejsM> But not completely
[01:16] <daftykins> AleksejsM: sounds like it's being heavily loaded
[01:17] <AleksejsM> Yes, but why?
[01:17] <daftykins> AleksejsM: broken stuff during upgrade :)
[01:18] <daftykins> AleksejsM: i'd run some commands to see what's taxing it, but judging by how long things are taking so far you'd have to get back to me with an answer in October
[01:18] <AleksejsM> :-D
[01:18] <AleksejsM> I managed to open package manager
[01:18] <Sunstream> !offtopic
[01:20] <lkthomas> hey guys, how could I make a bash script run everytime it boots up ?
[01:21] <ki7mt> lkthomas, with up-start: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpstartHowto
[01:21] <Sunstream> Okay I joined the off topic since making comments here are not always welcomed
[01:21] <AleksejsM> daftykins: it seems that everything that's not related to network, works pretty fast
[01:21] <ki7mt> lkthomas, more info: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[01:22] <daftykins> AleksejsM: open a terminal and run "top" and see what keeps hitting the top
[01:23] <AleksejsM> And net manager widget shows "NetworkManager 0.9.8 required, found ."
[01:24] <lkthomas> ki7mt: I need it run the very first time only
[01:24] <AleksejsM> firefox, some virtuoso-t and nepomukfileindexer are on top
[01:25] <AleksejsM> What's ther virtuoso-t?
[01:25] <ki7mt> lkthomas, you said every time it boots, now only the first time, probably best to just run it manually then, one time.
[01:26] <daftykins> AleksejsM: can you tell me what "cat /etc/issue" from a terminal shows?
[01:26] <lkthomas> ki7mt: is it possible to automate it ?
[01:27] <ki7mt> lkthomas, sure, just depends on what the script it doing.
[01:27] <AleksejsM> daftykins: ubuntu 13.10 \n \1
[01:27] <daftykins> oh yeah you said earlier
[01:27] <lkthomas> ki7mt: maybe I manually link the script to /etc/rc1.d ? it helps to config bootstrap to do next step
[01:28] <daftykins> AleksejsM: hmm, oh well it's too late for me now... you'll need to pass on what we've learnt so far to someone else for assistance - but i'd really just nuke it from orbit with a clean install after backing up my data.
[01:28] <ki7mt> lkthomas, I'd still make it an upstart job, then in the script, test if run before, if $? = 0, then exit 0, else, do something
[01:30] <ki7mt> lkthomas, in orther words, make the cript to the teting work, and use upstart to trigger it to test.
[01:30] <ki7mt> .. make the script do the testing work .. ..
[01:32] <guest0292> <<Using Lubuntu 13.10.  I bought a usb wifi dongle with rt 7601 chipset.  Problem:  I have no driver and can't compile it as I can't connect to the internet to download the compilers.  Is there an installer package for gcc/build essentials that I can download using another PC and copy to my ubuntu pc to compile the wifi driver??
[01:32] <GooglePlay> hello to all, i`m beginner on linux, and i have a little problem with a app, can i ask here? or exist a specific channel for help
[01:33] <Seven_Six_Two> GooglePlay, yes, you can ask here.
[01:34] <GooglePlay> ok, thanks u. i installed VLC media player, and i found on a website a plugin for automatly search the subtitles for the movie, i follow that steps, and now the VLC isn`t open anymore
[01:35] <Seven_Six_Two> guest0292, you can set up a mirror of the repositories with apt-mirror
[01:36] <Seven_Six_Two> GooglePlay, "isn't open", or "doesn't open"?
[01:36] <guest0292> ah ok. So I can use lubuntu 13.04 to download from the ubuntu 13.10 repos and get the build essentials?
[01:36] <daftykins> that's a ridiculous solution
[01:37] <GooglePlay> doesn`t open. sorry for my bad englesh
[01:37] <daftykins> guest0292: you can grab the deb's yourself, sure
[01:38] <guest0292> ok, hoping to download them automatically, as there might be a lot to download individually to compile the wifi kernel driver. :- )
[01:38] <daftykins> yeah i think your approach is flawed to be honest
[01:38] <daftykins> does this system not have wired networking?
[01:39] <guest0292> no wired.. just wifi tethering to my 3g phone
[01:39] <daftykins> eww, can you go somewhere with wired temporarily/
[01:40] <guest0292> well it's a desktop PC so i can't really move it elsewhere.   I need to use my other notebook that connects to 3g to download the build essentials for the desktop PC
[01:40] <GooglePlay> what can i do to open it again ?
[01:40] <robotdevil> !vmware
[01:40] <Seven_Six_Two> that's why I suggested apt-mirror. there is another way, but I haven't found it yet. http://askubuntu.com/questions/974/how-can-i-install-software-or-packages-without-internet-offline
[01:40] <Sunstream> daftykins, I am sorry I made comments here I am in offtopic now
[01:41] <daftykins> Sunstream: ok, lets pretend it never happened ;)
[01:41] <robotdevil> is there any "good" usb 3 support in vm's
[01:41] <Sunstream> I will hang here if I do have a question
[01:41] <Seven_Six_Two> sorry GooglePlay. vlc should be in your app menu. If you're using unity, click the dash and type "vlc", the icon should appear.
[01:41] <Sunstream> I am glad that the people here saved me from running Unity on 512 megs
[01:42] <Seven_Six_Two> GooglePlay, or open a terminal, type "vlc" and hit enter.
[01:42] <daftykins> Sunstream: can you stop rambling now please, i warned you already
[01:42] <GooglePlay> george@Geo:~$ vlc
[01:42] <GooglePlay> VLC media player 2.1.4 Rincewind (revision 2.1.4-0-g2a072be)
[01:42] <GooglePlay> vlc: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libvlc.so.5: undefined symbol: pl_Get
[01:43] <GooglePlay> and nothing
[01:43] <Seven_Six_Two> !keryx
[01:44] <Seven_Six_Two> GooglePlay, are you using virtualbox?
[01:45] <GooglePlay> no, i just installed Ubuntu 14.04
[01:45] <Sivik> anyone have any luck installing g15daemon on ubuntu trusty?
[01:45] <ProfessorKaos64> How can I add a program to Startup Applications via the command line"
[01:45] <ProfessorKaos64> ?
[01:45] <Sivik> ProfessorKaos64, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[01:45] <Sivik> check that
[01:45] <ProfessorKaos64> awesome, thanks
[01:46] <Seven_Six_Two> GooglePlay, it's a bug in libtar. a fix exists but may not be backported.
[01:46] <Seven_Six_Two> GooglePlay, try this in terminal            vlc --reset-config
[01:46] <ProfessorKaos64> Sivik, I saw that, but I didn't see CLI methods
[01:47] <ProfessorKaos64> on some distros I put things in /etc/xdg/autostart, but that doesn't work
[01:49] <Seven_Six_Two> ProfessorKaos64,     sudo update-rc.d servicename defaults
[01:49] <Sivik> what xwindow session manager?
[01:50] <ProfessorKaos64> Do you mean unity?
[01:50] <GooglePlay> i get the same error
[01:50] <ProfessorKaos64> lightdm I think is the default in 14.04
[01:50] <Sivik> Yea, thats unity
[01:50] <Sivik> ProfessorKaos64, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1767979
[01:50] <Sivik> check that
[01:52] <ProfessorKaos64> I think ' ~/.config/autostart/' is where I need to place it
[01:52] <ProfessorKaos64> let me try that, thx
[01:52] <Sivik> http://askubuntu.com/questions/178567/how-to-add-a-program-as-startup-application-from-terminal that might help tooo
[01:53] <AleksejsM> Any idea how to repair that network-manager?
[01:53] <Sivik> try removing and re-install it AleksejsM
[01:53] <Sivik> !libg15daemon
[01:53] <ProfessorKaos64> Seven_Six_Two, Thanks, but its not an init.d service
[01:53] <ProfessorKaos64> And I really don't want to make one, so a desktop entry will do fine
[01:54] <ProfessorKaos64> .confg/autostart worked fine Sivik , thank you
[01:54] <Sivik> yw ProfessorKaos64
[01:54] <Sivik> !g15daemon
[01:54] <GooglePlay> Seven_Six_Two,  in this case what can i do to run the VLC ?
[01:57] <banister> how do i find out what a given process (gives its process id) is using for stdin/stdout?
[01:58] <Guest50543> hi, sorry for my english. Who Knows same site to view movie with english subtitles to learn lenguage?
[02:00] <ki7mt> banister, use somethign like ps -aux |grep <process-name> or use pstree to see all active process in a tree format
[02:02] <AleksejsM> I removed network-manager, but how do I install it now? I don't have a connection, and package cannot be downloaded
[02:03] <Beldar> AleksejsM, Probably a live cd and set the software sources to read the cd and do an update.
[02:04] <Beldar> AleksejsM, Or chroot from a live and install might work.
[02:05] <psusi> Beldar, live cds' aren't software sources
[02:06] <psusi> AleksejsM, assuming you use dhcp, run sudo dhclient to get an address and configure the network interface
[02:06] <Beldar> psusi, Ah, thought the nm might be on there.
[02:08] <Beldar> psusi, I had that backwards, I have used the live to get to the repos, my mistake..
[02:09] <josefig> If I downloaded in mbox format my backup how can I convert it to dovecot in order to see it in my new email server?
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i just want to understand how xubuntu xfce themes or accepts gtk themes, I like using black themes, but i cannot stand that the text is white on gray when using leafpad and applications like android sdk, what can i do to fix themes? perhaps change individual text colors or background colors, but not affect the general theme
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> the problem is i like the darker colored themes
[02:18] <AleksejsM> psusi: it hangs
[02:18] <AleksejsM> I think the reason is with drivers
[02:18] <AleksejsM> After release-upgrade my wifi didn't work and I tried to fix it with this manual http://askubuntu.com/questions/419867/qualcomm-atheros-ar9485-wireless-network-adapter-not-working-on-ubuntu-13-10
[02:18] <AleksejsM> After that, everything related to network just hangs, and there's no even cable connection
[02:21] <whitepowder> So apparently my problem comes from the fact that 12.04 gets updated to 12.04.4 which uses 3.11.x kernel and i *have* to stay on 3.2.x or earlier. fml
[02:22] <whitepowder> is it possible to install 12.04.4 but use an older kernel (3.2.x)?
[02:28] <AleksejsM>  hmm, I guess something isnt right with my interfaces file. It has only 2 lines:
[02:29] <AleksejsM> auto lo
[02:29] <AleksejsM> iface lo inet loopback
[02:30] <AleksejsM> Can this be a reason?
[02:30] <ki7mt> whitepowder, yes, download the headers and image for the kernel you want, dpkg -i linux-* then set Grub2 default to either -1 or default to the kernel you'd like to boot.
[02:31] <gRIMwORLD> AleksejsM, reason for what?
[02:31] <gRIMwORLD> sorry just joined
[02:32] <AleksejsM> For network not working
[02:32] <ki7mt> whitepowder, you'll want to pick from the precise branches form here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[02:33] <AleksejsM> But I also just noticed that when I launch anything with sudo, it just hangs and nothing happens
[02:33] <AleksejsM> And cant even be killed by ^C
[02:34] <gRIMwORLD> lspci - check if you see eth0
[02:34] <gRIMwORLD> are you cable connected?
[02:34] <thisisatest> .
[02:35] <thisisatest> ryanjacobs:.
[02:35] <AleksejsM> Lspci shows both eth and wifi
[02:37] <AleksejsM> It's interesting: Iaunch vim, it works, I launch sudo vim, it opened after minute
[02:38] <AleksejsM> What can cause this?
[02:39] <gRIMwORLD> is it a new install?
[02:39] <AleksejsM> No, after release-upgrade
[02:41] <gRIMwORLD> is the cpu usage high
[02:51] <la> hola
[02:51] <la> ou
[02:52] <alumno__> hola quien  habla
[02:52] <alumno__> toy aburri
[02:54] <Beldar> mmmm two nicks same ip and esperanza
[02:56] <ryanjacobs> Beldar: sorry about that, I guess #ubuntu opens automaticly on my irc. I was on #test
[03:15] <_1_McVidal2> Hola Amores
[03:16] <Beldar> _1_McVidal2, English?
[03:17] <Beldar> _1_McVidal2, no bots please
[03:20] <lnb_> 14.04 on my asus notebook does one thing, kick me off. Installed 14.04 on one of our new inux mini desktops, works perfectly. There must be issues with the g3force m425 video chip
[03:22] <Beldar> lnb_, I see nothing on line on the  g3force m425  maybe a clearer description might help.
[03:23] <lnb_> hi Beldar
[03:23] <lnb_> i can only tell you, after installing 14.04, it kicks me out .. back to login
[03:23] <Beldar> lnb_, Hi, when are you kicked off, the desktop right?
[03:24] <lnb_> once in a while see a screen about nouveau cant do certain things.. i forgot exactly what though
[03:24] <lnb_> i know, not much help
[03:24] <Beldar> lnb_, At the login hit ctrl-alt-f1 to a tty and login and then go to the desktop and see if you get there,
[03:25] <lnb_> i can't now because i reinstalled 12.04 which works perfectly out-of-the-box
[03:25] <Beldar> lnb_, Ah well that fixes it than for now.
[03:25] <lnb_> i really wanted to say that our inux mini desktops and 14.04 are picture perfect
[03:26] <lnb_> Beldar: it does, but anyone else that has the same asus notebook will have the same problems
[03:39] <AleksejsM> Can anyone show me how /etc/resolv.conf should look like?
[03:40] <Beldar> lnb_, I would not attach your issue to anyone else, as I said I see nothing on the web including askubuntu on this, if there was a problem we would see something.
[03:41] <lnb_> Beldar: i will get the model number and then you can see
[03:42] <Beldar> lnb_, Just gonna say it is not my job to have you think critically that is your issue. ;)
[03:42] <Iko_> Do I really need a swap partition?
[03:43] <lnb_> Iko_: dont do without one :)
[03:43] <Iko_> I have 4 gb ram, and somewhat less data intensive programs
[03:43] <sydney> Iko_: You need one. :D
[03:43] <lnb_> Iko_: set a 2gb sway
[03:43] <lnb_> swap
[03:43] <Beldar> Iko_, Some do not with enough ram, but if you want to hibernate it's needed, some would argue it's needed, your choice really.
[03:44] <AcidRain> what would cause a filesystem to get unmounted then mounted in readonly mode?
[03:44] <Iko_> My main problem is that I need a primary partition
[03:44] <zerowaitstate> even if you hardly ever swap, you create problems by not having a swap partition. You can prevent stuff from going to swap by adjusting the "swapiness" of the kernel
[03:44] <sydney> Its backup in case you run out of ram too  :D
[03:44] <Beldar> Iko_, Take a screen shot of gparted and post an image of it.
[03:44] <Iko_> Currently I have 1 Ubuntu, 2x windows (one for system restore and stuff) and one for swap
[03:45] <sydney> Iko_: So whats the problem exactly?
[03:46] <Iko_> sydney: I'm trying to install OpenBSD (need it for a project), but it needs a primary partition
[03:46] <Iko_> Beldar: Here's a op from fdisk -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7688484/
[03:47] <gambol> guys, anyone know if there's some app/package will enable ip_forward by default?
[03:48] <gambol> I have a 14.04, seeing the ip_forward is 1 but I believe I never changed it manually.
[03:48] <Beldar> Iko_, YOU have the max primaries you can have with an extended now the swap sda1?
[03:48] <gambol> #ubuntu-server
[03:48] <Beldar> it's sda5
[03:48] <whitepowder> Success! Crap that was easier than i thought.. just cp'd files out of the iso onto the fat16 partition. Could i copy the pool and dists from amd64 and i386 isos into the same place? that way i can just detect 32/64bit in the syslinux config and boot the right kernel and go?
[03:48] <Iko_> Beldar: Yes, the sda4 was my swap
[03:49] <Beldar> Iko_, sda4 is the extended
[03:49] <Iko_> Beldar: Yep, so split sda4 into sda5 and sda6
[03:49] <linuxuz3r> what do they mean by load in the activity monitor
[03:49] <Iko_> I was trying to install on sda5
[03:49] <Iko_> Beldar: But it's not recognized
[03:50] <Beldar> Iko_, You can't split a extended, and you can't add another primary with an extended there now.
[03:50] <sydney> afk,goodnight!!
[03:51] <Beldar> Iko_, You could move the sda1 to the extended with a clone...etc, or another HD.
[03:51] <Beldar> and mkae the sda1 the bsd partiton
[03:51] <Beldar> lotta resizing though Iko_
[03:51] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: it's a better measure of CPU utilization that CPU%
[03:52] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: basically, in addition to how much CPU you're using, it also measures how much is queued to run but can't due to CPU being maxed out
[03:52] <Iko_> Beldar: Hmm.. I was thinking of deleting sda4 and installing it there
[03:52] <Iko_> Beldar: But that would remove my swap
[03:53] <kabuki> hello
[03:53] <Beldar> Iko_, you can't delete sda4 unless you remove sda5 and sda6 sda4 is an extended a container for the other two which are logicals,
[03:54] <Iko_> Beldar: Exactally, so if I delete sda4 (which would remove sda5 &6), I would have no swap
[03:54] <Iko_> Beldar: My swap is sda4
[03:54] <Iko_> Beldar: My swap is _sda5_
[03:54] <kabuki> peace
[03:54] <zerowaitstate> Iko_: I'm starting to think you're probably going to have more luck running OpenBSD in a virtualbox
[03:55] <Beldar> Iko_, right and only room for one primary, I would move the sda1 to the sda4 extended, by resizing the two ntfs and make sda1 the bsd, you would still have the sda5 and sda6
[03:56] <Beldar> a vm might be better as suggested
[03:56] <erm3nda> Hi all
[03:56] <erm3nda> Q: Im facing problems to connect to a game server, but i can access webserver tcp 80 port... do not figure out what to test or where to look.
[03:56] <Iko_> zerowaitstate: Well, bsd needs VTX, and my hardware is rather outdated
[03:57] <Beldar> Iko_, What we are missing is the functionality of any of the partitions, there may be more that can be done.
[03:57] <Iko_> Beldar: I'll try moving sda1 to extended, I guess.. Thanks!
[03:58] <zerowaitstate> Iko_: that looks like your only option
[03:58] <Beldar> Iko_, Do what you need to. ;)
[03:59] <Beldar> don't delete sda1 just remake the partition as needed
[04:00] <Beldar> keep the partitions going up numerically from the front of the dsic as well. Iko_
[04:00] <Beldar> disc*
[04:00] <jeff__> hey all
[04:01] <Beldar> yoh, ho, ho
[04:04] <whitepowder> Hmm. About halfway where i want this usb stick to be. Ubuntu installs automatically besides disk selection and password entry, but it seems theres a dists/precise/binary-i386 directory in the amd64 alternate iso too? Should i just overwrite that with the stuff from the i386 alternative?
[04:12] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i just want to understand how xubuntu xfce themes or accepts gtk themes, I like using black themes, but i cannot stand that the text is white on gray when using leafpad and applications like android sdk, what can i do to fix themes? perhaps change individual text colors or background colors, but not affect the general theme
[04:18] <tortib> Hello I'm trying to configure vsftp with TLS/SSL and I'm having a problem.  The client keeps giving an error 157 "Invalid reply from server" I checked the logs for vsftp but there isn't anything but a connection message showing that the user logged in.  Here is my config http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?167544
[04:22] <homeserver> hello
[04:25] <villandra> If my 32 gig computer has 4 gigs of RAM, what size swap file should I make?
[04:25] <Fall> :o
[04:26] <Beldar> villandra, Do you want to hibernate? only 32 gigs in all?
[04:26] <villandra> Trying this again.   LOL!   My 32 bit computer has 4 gigs of RAM.  What size should I make the swap file?
[04:27] <Beldar> villandra, Do you want to hibernate?
[04:27] <villandra> Why would I want to hibernate.  I want to know what size to make the swap file.
[04:28] <Beldar> villandra, It takes a equal or larger swap to the ram to hibernate, just getting the context.
[04:28] <Beldar> simple but important question if you want a good answer
[04:29] <Beldar> generally swap is just slightly larger than the ram
[04:31] <tortib> Can anyone help me with my problem
[04:31] <Ethos>  your question?
[04:34] <pavlos> villandra, some rule is 1.5 times memory
[04:34] <tortib> Hello I'm trying to configure vsftp with TLS/SSL and I'm having a problem.  The client keeps giving an error 157 "Invalid reply from server" I checked the logs for vsftp but there isn't anything but a connection message showing that the user logged in.  Here is my config http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?167544
[04:39] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i have a big problem using my xubutnu 12.04 desktop and what happens is everytime i am in the middle of a project the computer cold freezes, no keys work nothing and it happens only ironically when i am doing something important so it does not always happen i ran a memory test and everything is fine but this randomly will happen,  is there somthing i can do to diagnose because it is a cold freeze i do not find anything in logs
[04:42] <villandra> 32 bit computer, 4 gigs of RAM.   I understand swap size must be 1.5 to 2 times the RAM - but not more than 2 gigs?   You'll have to clarify what hibernating has to do with it.
[04:43] <villandra> Oh.   No, I don't hibernate my computer.
[04:43] <villandra> I thought you thought I must be hibernating if my computer is 32 gigs.
[04:43] <Beldar> villandra, Thank you a no was all that was needed, equal or slightly larger than ram is fine fir normal use
[04:43] <Beldar> for*
[04:44] <villandra> So 4 gigs swap file will do it.
[04:44] <Ethos> Is New Jersey a state?
[04:44] <villandra> Last time I heard, New Jersey is a borough of New York City.
[04:44] <cfhowlett> Ethos you're in the wrong channel
[04:44] <Ethos> I mean is the Ubuntu help center
[04:44] <Ethos> in NJ
[04:44] <Beldar> villandra, Iwould go like 4.25 or so
[04:44] <cfhowlett> Ethos no
[04:44] <villandra> OK, thanks!
[04:45] <Beldar> np
[04:49] <Loshki> Psil0Cybin: It's generally hardware. Overheating (look, poke & prod), PSU issue (measure), bad RAM (run an overnight memtest)...
[04:50] <Ethos> I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 desktop, is there way I can check the temperature of the cpu, on gui gnome
[04:51] <Guest47935> hello
[04:51] <cfhowlett> !sensors|ethos
[04:51] <linuxuz3r> Ethos, try psensor
[04:51] <Beldar> Ethos, Unity desktop or the gnome shell or the fallback
[04:52] <robotdevil> why is usb 3 so much of an issue with visualization?
[04:53] <robotdevil> especially since some devices only have usb3 ports
[04:53] <Beldar> !details | robotdevil
[04:53]  * robotdevil scratches head
[04:54] <linuxuz3r> robotdevil, visualization or virtualization
[04:55] <robotdevil> #2 auto correct lol
[04:57] <robotdevil> Beldar: WHAT VIRTUALIZATION SOLUTIONS HAVE GOOD USB3 SUPPORT! haha
[04:57] <cfhowlett> !vbox | robotdevil
[04:58] <robotdevil> I thought it didnt have it
[04:59] <cfhowlett> robotdevil best to ask in #vboox
[04:59] <cfhowlett> #vbox
[05:00] <robotdevil> looks like there is some oracle reason for not supporting it
[05:01] <holstein> not supporint USB? its supported in virtualbox
[05:02] <holstein> robotdevil: should still be similar to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/USB
[05:02] <cfhowlett> robotdevil perhaps INSTALL virtualbox and test it might be in order?
[05:03] <holstein> ^^ thats how i learned to implement USB
[05:03] <Fall> TIAS!~ :D
[05:04] <linuxuz3r> if you have a default route and a primary dns why do you need a subnet mask for?
[05:04] <linuxuz3r> i have a subnet mask in my wlan
[05:04] <linuxuz3r> 255.255.255.0
[05:04] <linuxuz3r> i forgot what class it is
[05:04] <linuxuz3r> i think its class c
[05:04] <robotdevil> cfhowlett: I have
[05:04] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: yes, a /24 is class C
[05:05] <holstein> linuxuz3r: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_subnetting_reference probably has all you need.
[05:05] <robotdevil> cfhowlett: thought maybe you were implying I missed something
[05:06] <cfhowlett> robotdevil my error.  I missed that you had indeed field-tested this issue.
[05:06] <holstein> robotdevil: if you are saying "there is an oracle reason for not supporting/providing USB", then you are missing something.. it *is* supported
[05:06] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: you need a subnet mask so that your comp can figure out whether to send a packet directory a machine on the local LAN, or send it to a router for forwarding
[05:06] <zerowaitstate> s/directory/directly
[05:07] <robotdevil> usb3
[05:07] <linuxuz3r> zerowaitstate, i thought it is for subnetworking several computers together
[05:07] <robotdevil> qemu seems mucked up as well
[05:08] <linuxuz3r> im dumb with network administration
[05:08] <linuxuz3r> sorry for my noobness
[05:08] <linuxuz3r> i forgot to connect computers together you need a switch
[05:09] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: it's hard to answer your question fully without getting into OSI model
[05:09] <holstein> robotdevil: vmware should support 3.0
[05:09] <linuxuz3r> but can you connect computers together using daisy chained nics
[05:09] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: yes
[05:09] <linuxuz3r> zerowaitstate, thats not ideal though right
[05:09] <linuxuz3r> thats my understanding of network
[05:10] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: depends on what you want to achieve. For 99.9% of people it is not ideal.
[05:10] <robotdevil> looks like vmware-player costs money now, but I could be mistaken
[05:10] <linuxuz3r> ok
[05:10] <villandra> Next question.  I want to install two Linux OS's (Ubuntu and Mint) and a data partition on a 300 gig hard drive.  I understand that to do that I have to install the Linux partitions manually.  I have to install 4 partitions per Linux OS.  I can install only 4 primary partitions and the rest must be logical partitions of an extended partition.   However I can make the first partition for each
[05:10] <villandra> Linux OS primary and the rest logical - or can I only do that if I'm putting just one Linux OS on the drive?   So I need to know how to set up these partitions.
[05:10] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: a book on Network+ will explain all that stuff
[05:10] <cfhowlett> !partition|villandra
[05:11] <Beldar> villandra, Neither linux needs a primary.
[05:12] <villandra> I did read up on partitioning but could only find instructions for one OS, not two, and definitely not two Linux.   Beldar, from what you are saying I can do three primaries for one system and all the rest logical partitions?
[05:12] <holstein> villandra: the rules apply, though. what you can do and what partitions can be created
[05:13] <villandra> Holstein, your sentence got chopped off.
[05:13] <linuxuz3r> villandra, you can use 3 or 4 primary partition after that if you need more partitkion you need to make it extended logical
[05:13] <Beldar> villandra, I would only use a primary for windows myself, any linux in logicals in  an extended. Really depends on what you have there now to some extent.
[05:13] <holstein> villandra: what did you miss?
[05:13] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: short answer, any host on a network needs to know its own subnet mask as well as its own address.
[05:14] <villandra> Beldar, I'm not installing Windows on this drive.  You're saying don't do ANY primary partitions?
[05:14] <Beldar> villandra, You can do all that install in an extended if you want.
[05:15] <Beldar> more partition numerically in an extended is all
[05:15] <villandra> So just have no primary partitions, one extended partition, with nine logical partitions for the 2 Linux installations and the data partition.
[05:15] <Beldar> partitions
[05:15] <Beldar> villandra, Sure, I am curious as to why 4partitons each?
[05:16] <linuxuz3r> zerowaitstate, you said that it tells the network to forward the packet or route it to different one right
[05:16] <linuxuz3r> why is my windows machine and linux machine on the same subnet
[05:16] <villandra> Because that's what every set of instructions I read or viewed said.  Boot, root, swap and home.   Now, I think the one I viewed just had three of those.   Not sure if the boot section made itself.
[05:16] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: no, it tells the HOST to do that. The host makes the decision whether to send the packet to the router or not.
[05:17] <linuxuz3r> i kinda understand why we need a default route and primary dns
[05:17] <linuxuz3r> i dont understand the use of subnet
[05:17] <Beldar> villandra, Ah, no boot partition needed, and only one swap for both linux.
[05:17] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: that's because you don't know about layer 2 vs layer 3 networking
[05:17] <villandra> How do the two OS's know to use the one swap?
[05:18] <Ben64> linuxuz3r: ask in ##networking if you want to know more about subnets and things
[05:18] <linuxuz3r> Ben64, its down
[05:18] <Beldar> villandra, They mount it with fstab, this gonna be a lvm or encrypted?
[05:18] <linuxuz3r> well its quiet over there
[05:18] <Ben64> linuxuz3r: ##networking is not down...
[05:18] <villandra> It's not going to be encrypted.  What's lvm?
[05:19] <Beldar> villandra, Another form of encryption.
[05:19] <villandra> Subnet is a part of a network that you set up.  Whether two machines would be on the same subnet depends on how you set it up.  Usually if you only have two machines you wouldn't have two subnets.
[05:19] <Beldar> !lvm
[05:19] <Ben64> lvm is not only for encryption
[05:19] <Beldar> villandra, ^^^^
[05:19] <Beldar> Ben64, you are so right. ;)
[05:20] <villandra> No, I'm not doing any encryption.  This is for a home machine.
[05:20] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: two machines are on the same subnet if they do not have to cross a router to reach each other.
[05:20] <linuxuz3r> ok thats what im picturing in my head
[05:20] <linuxuz3r> lol
[05:20] <linuxuz3r> my mind even
[05:20] <villandra> LOL - you mean if there is not a router between the two networks!   If it's a home network they are going to go through a router!
[05:20]  * Beldar loves the greek chorus
[05:21] <zerowaitstate> villandra: your home router has a switch built into it.
[05:21] <linuxuz3r> can you do those layer 1 and layer 2 networking with just a simple wireless router
[05:21] <Dylan_> How do I encode an .ass subtitle file to a .mp4 video file in a fashion that both the video and the subtitles can successfully be uploaded to youtube?
[05:21] <linuxuz3r> or do you need a switch
[05:21] <villandra> That if they go through a router statement confused me when my MCITP teacher first said it.
[05:22] <villandra> Uh, right, Zero, I eventually realized that but I never think of it.
[05:22] <Beldar> villandra, Heh, I suspected some sort of class or assignment was involved in  some way here. ;)
[05:22] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: "wireless router" is a marketing term. In reality that box that is called a "wireless router" is multiple things: a router, a switch, and access point, a dhcp server, and a NAT firewall
[05:23] <linuxuz3r> zerowaitstate, you said i can learn it from a networking + book right
[05:23] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: that is a good start, yes
[05:23] <linuxuz3r> ok
[05:23] <zerowaitstate> CompTIA
[05:23] <linuxuz3r> ok cool
[05:23] <zerowaitstate> you need to learn OSI model
[05:23] <villandra> Was inuxuz3r asking if he can network wirelessly?
[05:23] <zerowaitstate> no
[05:24] <villandra> I wondered what linuxuz3r meant by layer 1 and layer 2 networking - thought perhaps he's talking about something else.
[05:24] <linuxuz3r> i heard of osi model but i really didnt absorb the info on the network programming book
[05:24] <Ben64> if you guys want to talk about networking more, please do it in ##networking ???
[05:24] <cfhowlett> Dylan_ avconv -i inputfilename outputfilename.mp4
[05:24] <zerowaitstate> lol, k
[05:24] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: hop over there
[05:24] <linuxuz3r> sorry
[05:24] <villandra> Correct me if my memory is goofy, but I think the networking part is layer 3 and layer 4.
[05:24] <linuxuz3r> zerowaitstate, im fine
[05:25] <linuxuz3r> sorry Ben64
[05:25] <Dylan_> cfhowlett: inputfilename is the .ass file?
[05:25] <cfhowlett> Dylan_ correct
[05:25] <villandra> Ubottu, I'm not doing RAID either.
[05:26] <villandra> quit
[05:27] <Dylan_> cfhowlett: if this works you're getting a bouquet of roses and a box of chocolates.
[05:28] <Dylan_> Terminal gave me this:
[05:28] <Dylan_> Output file #0 does not contain any stream
[05:29] <newvirus> the network rules
[05:29] <Dylan_> cfhowlett: Any further advice?
[05:29] <Ben64> Dylan_: MP4Box would probably work for what you want
[05:30] <Dylan_> sudo apt-get install mp4box?
[05:30] <Dylan_> Nope.
[05:30] <Ben64> Dylan_: my system has the package as "gpac"
[05:31] <Dylan_> Found it. Downloading...
[05:31] <Ben64> Dylan_: warning - MP4Box has some of the most confusing syntax of anything I've ever used. Good luck
[05:32] <Dylan_> Crap. You're not going to hold my hand through it?
[05:32] <Dylan_> Does this thing have a GUI?
[05:32] <Ben64> nope, haven't ever tried adding subtitles to an mp4, just combined audio and video tracks into mp4, and that was hard enough
[05:32] <linuxuz3r> .sean zerowaitstate
[05:32] <linuxuz3r> .seen zerowaitstate
[05:32] <linuxuz3r> !seen zerowaitstate
[05:33] <linuxuz3r> ok
[05:33] <Dylan_> Balls!
[05:33] <Dylan_> I could never imagine how incredibly difficult it is to hardcode subtitles.
[05:33] <jmeyer> I'm trying to do 'chattr -i /etc/resolv.conf' but I get the error: "chattr: Operation not supported while reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf". I'm trying to change my DNS servers. Why wont this work?
[05:33] <Ben64> Dylan_: hardcode? i thought you wanted to add a subtitle track
[05:34] <Dylan_> Let me explain the situation.
[05:34] <Dylan_> I made a translation for a documentary.
[05:34] <Ben64> jmeyer: you don't want to edit that file
[05:34] <Dylan_> And I want to post it on youtube.
[05:35] <Dylan_> Youtube, for whatever reason, demands .srt files for subtitles if the video is going to be separate from the subtitles.
[05:35] <Ben64> Dylan_: ok?
[05:35] <Dylan_> .srt files don't contain the aesthetic modifications I need to make the subtitles useful.
[05:35] <Dylan_> So I made them with Aegisub into an .ass file.
[05:36] <Dylan_> Youtube spits on .ass files, I guess.
[05:36] <jmeyer> Ben64: I do want to edit it. I don't want to edit the bash scripts or the systemd or the networkmanager or anything else I want to edit the authority file for resolving dns
[05:36] <Dylan_> So I've read around and it appears if I "hardcode" the two files together, I can upload it as one file into youtube.
[05:36] <Dylan_> Now, I did this with a program called mkvmerge.
[05:36] <Dylan_> The subtitles worked beautifully on my computer.
[05:36] <Dylan_> But when I uploaded it to YT... they vanished.
[05:37] <ritesh> while restarting, I want to check through the logs for exception for verifying whether the application has started properly, but log formats are different for different application, so can anyone help me achieve this all in one script
[05:37] <Dylan_> So I'm trying to troubleshoot WHY that's the case an fix it.
[05:37] <jmeyer> Ben64: Can you help me?
[05:38] <Ben64> Dylan_: ok so you want to actually re-encode the video with the subs on it
[05:38] <linuxuz3r> wow linux is feature rich
[05:38] <linuxuz3r> network feature rich
[05:38] <linuxuz3r> lol cant imagine its free
[05:38] <Dylan_> Oo! New vocabulary! YES.
[05:38] <linuxuz3r> so now i will support it
[05:39] <Ben64> jmeyer: resolv.conf gets erased every boot, you don't want to edit it. it says so on the very first line
[05:39] <ritesh> can anyone here can help me ?
[05:39] <ritesh> i need help with my script
[05:39] <ritesh> its a bash script
[05:40] <jmeyer> Ben64: It just yells at me in all caps to not edit the file by hand. Anyways, if the file is immutable then how can some bumbling boot script touch it?
[05:40] <chenzen> hey guys i used to run sqldeveloper but now loading will be complete but it does not run wat should i do?
[05:42] <Ben64> jmeyer: check in /etc/resolvconf/ for the files you probably want to edit
[05:43] <Ben64> Dylan_: https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/HowToBurnSubtitlesIntoVideo
[05:44] <jmeyer> Ben64: There are a few files and an empty directory that make no sense to anyone except some greybeard tucked away in a pocket of the Debian project. How do I make /etc/resolv.conf immutable?
[05:44] <Ben64> jmeyer: stop worrying about /etc/resolv.conf
[05:45] <Ben64> jmeyer: create a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail and add whatever you want in the file there
[05:45] <jmeyer> Okay. I've stopped. How do I get my system to always, under all possible circumstances (excepting myself) use the DNS servers I define
[05:45] <linuxuz3r> im hesitant to update my ubuntu installation from previous experience of breaking it
[05:46] <linuxuz3r> where can i see the log files of updates for ubuntu
[05:46] <jmeyer> tail? you mean append. will my system add stuff to that when I restart and it does some dhcp config or networkmanager decides to take some intitiative I'd rather it not, Ben64?
[05:46] <linuxuz3r> i mean what they change and replaced not the installation log files
[05:47] <Ben64> jmeyer: you can configure it in your network manager if you prefer
[05:47] <jmeyer> No no no no. No. That wont do.
[05:47] <Dylan_> Ben64: How do I compile ffmpeg with --enable-libass?
[05:47] <Ben64> linuxuz3r: define "update"
[05:48] <linuxuz3r> there is a notification icon that says packages are available for an update. I dont know what features and additions they put on the update
[05:48] <linuxuz3r> thats the update i want to find out
[05:48] <jmeyer> Ben64: I did what you said with this tail thingy. When I restart will I see the IPs I put in there in resolv.conf?
[05:48] <Ben64> jmeyer: yep
[05:49] <Ben64> linuxuz3r: you should have an option to see the updates available
[05:50] <Sunstream> Okay, I do have a question, I want to set up my Terminal to act as a "shell" meaning I want to login
[05:50] <Sunstream> what do I do
[05:50] <linuxuz3r> ok
[05:51] <Ben64> Sunstream: huh?
[05:51] <Sunstream> I want to open my terminal with a screen that says login: and I have to put my username and password in
[05:51] <Sunstream> just for nostalgia mainly
[05:52] <Dylan_> Ben64: Sorry if you saw what I wrote before, but how do I enable libass? I just compiled it into ffmpeg.
[05:52] <Ben64> Dylan_: why would you need to compile it? does the package version not include it?
[05:53] <Sunstream> !description login
[05:53] <Dylan_> I dunno. I just did: sudo apt-get -y install libass-dev
[05:53] <jmeyer> Ben64: You lied. It prepended to resolve.conf a search domain and a localhost nameserver.
[05:53] <jmeyer> Ben64: I just restarted and saw this.
[05:53] <Dylan_> And something installed itself.
[05:54] <Ben64> Dylan_: well try ffmpeg to see if it works before jumping in to compile it
[05:54] <jmeyer> Does anyone here know how to chattr +i resolv.conf?
[05:54] <Dylan_> However, when I do the command to encode the subtitles, I get "No such filter: 'ass'"
[05:54] <Ben64> jmeyer: again, thats not what you want to do
[05:55] <jmeyer> Ben64: What I want to do is make my system obey me. How do I make it do so?
[05:55] <jmeyer> The last advice you gave me did not work.
[05:55] <Ben64> jmeyer: by doing things the proper way. pastebin the contents of /etc/resolv.conf
[05:56] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Does anyone know how to change the text format for terminal? example: http://i.imgur.com/XyqaREO.png  I know that application is for windows but i've some people with that terminal format
[05:57] <jmeyer> Before the nameservers I specified in /etc/resolveconf.d/tail or whatever, there are two entries (after the comments) which should not be there: nameserver 127.0.1.1\nsearch Belkin
[05:57] <jmeyer> Ben64: I just pasted that here. \n is aline break, don't you know
[05:58] <jmeyer> I don't want it searching for FQDNs or whatever, and I don't know how 127.0.1.1 got there at all. no such subnet exists on this network and that isn't loopback iirc but what the hell do i know about tcp/ip
[05:58] <Ben64> 127.* is loopback actually
[05:59] <jmeyer> Ah.
[05:59] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> another example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq2agqPoLes
[05:59] <suntopk> Okay I am testing ircii and it works
[06:00] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> MannerMan: I know you know
[06:00] <Sunstream> I wish I could set up a shell
[06:00] <Sunstream> on my pc
[06:00] <Ben64> GuyThatNeedsHelp: don't ping random people, be patient for an answer
[06:00] <Ben64> Sunstream: explain more what you want exactly
[06:01] <ressudesu> herroo. I'm looking for the scrolling function used in evince, is it gtk ? Anybody know where i can find it, can i use it with terminal applications ?
[06:01] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Ben64: No
[06:01] <Sunstream> Okay
[06:01] <Sunstream> You know how you telnet into a shell account somewhere and it says whatever login:
[06:02] <Ben64> Sunstream: ok, i'll pretend that people still use telnet for this example
[06:02] <Sunstream> I want to have an enviorment like that when I go into my terminal maybe I have to set up a shell program that will only allow me to onnect locally
[06:02] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Ben64 is mean
[06:02] <ressudesu> evince, gtk anyone? no ?
[06:02] <Sunstream> it is where I am to login each time I go to the command shell
[06:02] <Ben64> Sunstream: you want to login when you open a terminal from your desktop?
[06:03] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :ressudesu what do you mean?
[06:03] <ressudesu> The touchpad smooth scrolling used in evince
[06:03] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> what about it?
[06:03] <ressudesu> where can i find it
[06:04] <ressudesu> herro ?
[06:04] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :ressudesu Did you open a file with evince?
[06:04] <Dylan_> Ben64: When I use the command on the site you provided to re-encode the video, the terminal gives me "No such filter: 'ass'". How do I get this filter?
[06:04] <ressudesu> yes
[06:04] <ki7mt> Sunstream, what you trying to do?
[06:05] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :ressudesu And you dont see the scroll bar on the right?
[06:05] <Sunstream> just make some nostalgic setup for my commandline where I have to login using my user name and Pw
[06:05] <Ben64> Sunstream: but you're already logged into your desktop
[06:05] <ressudesu> omg, i just need the smooth scrolling input
[06:06] <ressudesu> not the scroll bar or any output
[06:06] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> arrow keys
[06:06] <Sunstream> I know that.
[06:06] <ki7mt> Sunstream, from your windows machine to Linunx or Linux to Windows ? The Lubuntu login is a GUI based login screen.
[06:06] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> they're the best
[06:06] <Sunstream> its just for nostalgic reasonings
[06:06] <ressudesu> how can you be content with arrows
[06:06] <Ben64> Sunstream: so when you open a terminal... its already you
[06:07] <Sunstream> So what you are saying it really isn't easy to do?
[06:07] <Ben64> Sunstream: it's super weird
[06:07] <ressudesu> how can you be so content with arrow keys
[06:08] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :ressudesu http://i.imgur.com/8A6kNXQ.gif
[06:08] <ki7mt> Sunstream, No, im not saying that, you can log into the box without starting X, but on a Desktop system, doesn't make much sense to do that.
[06:08] <Sunstream> I know it don't but it was just for nostalgia. Just for remembering the late 80s early 90s
[06:09] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Server install for example, do not have a desktop installed, and it's all command-line, sorta your nostalgic look and feel.
[06:09] <ressudesu> it doesnt play anything but it's gif, are you sending me maruware
[06:09] <Ben64> Sunstream: open a terminal and type this..... gnome-terminal -e "su $USER -c bash"
[06:09] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :ressudesu Always
[06:10] <ki7mt> Sunstream, you can, from say another Linux machine, SSH to your Laptop there, if you have the IP address, just ssh <username>@some-ip and use your username and password for an SSH session.
[06:10] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> My malware is the best because it does nothing
[06:10] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> And while it does nothing you wont know that you have it
[06:10] <ki7mt> Sunstream, or from Wsindows using PuTTY or something, do the same.
[06:10] <ki7mt> .. Windows
[06:10] <ressudesu> but it grows and feeds on something like a pokemon ?
[06:11] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :ressudesu No, because pokemon sucks
[06:11] <ressudesu> im safe i have firewaru
[06:12] <ki7mt> Or, Open a terminal hit F11 and you go full screen terminal :-) instant nostalgic session
[06:12] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :ressudesu once my malware gets strong enough it will become a super saiyan
[06:12] <Sunstream> Its missing Login:
[06:12] <Sunstream> ;p
[06:13] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Well, that's you options really, login from another box, or, F11 and pretend it's old days.
[06:13] <Dylan_> How do I enable libass for ffmpeg?
[06:14] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Does anyone know how to change the text format for terminal? example: http://i.imgur.com/XyqaREO.png  I know that application is for windows but i've some people with that terminal format.
[06:15] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, Gnome Terminal or Console ?
[06:15] <Sunstream> Now that is very very old but COOL terminal
[06:15] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :ki7mt console
[06:16] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[06:16] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I like to use the dwm as my desktop env
[06:16]  * Sunstream would like to have a terminal like that but I am not going to go that far lol
[06:17] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :ki7mt If this works i will love you forever
[06:17] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, Se;ecy UTF-8 then fixes or whatever and contibue selecting.
[06:17] <ki7mt> .. Select
[06:17] <ressudesu> armv5 ?
[06:17] <Sunstream> let me ask you this GuyThatNeedsHelp it is almost like you want to run your shell like a MUD?
[06:17] <ki7mt> armv6 for sid, armv7 Ubuntu
[06:17] <bubble_beam> hello
[06:17] <ki7mt> Hello
[06:17] <bubble_beam> i have been trying to run gparted from a live cd
[06:18] <bubble_beam> but its showing searching /dev/sda partitions
[06:18] <bubble_beam> its been some time now
[06:18] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :Sunstream Never heard of such a term
[06:18] <bubble_beam> nothing really happens
[06:18] <bubble_beam> hi ki7mt
[06:19] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, Just FYI, you'll probably need a reboot after changing the console fonts.
[06:19] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> How would i make it look like the juan from the image?
[06:20] <Sunstream> MUD?
[06:20] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, No Idea on that one.
[06:20] <Sunstream> do you know what MMoRPG is?
[06:20] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> If you're talking to me then No
[06:21] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, If your talking about the log-in spash screen, search for Ascii Art generators, loads of them around.
[06:21] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Not the spash screen
[06:21] <Sunstream> Multi User Dungeon
[06:22] <Sunstream> Some people host them on their Linux systems
[06:22] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I want to go from user@system too the format from the image
[06:22] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, sri then, Im not sure what your referring to then.
[06:22] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, What image ?
[06:23] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> http://i.imgur.com/XyqaREO.png
[06:23] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, That's all done with .bashrc and / or .bash_profile
[06:24] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, And that Image is generaly known as Ascii Art or at least that's what I've always know it to be.
[06:26] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :ki7mt YES
[06:27] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, The rest is, PS1 command prompt fancy stuff, and setting directory color = on.
[06:28] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Do you know what language the .bashrc file is
[06:28] <bluezone> is it possible to limit network usage, hard-disk usage, ram usage, etc. for certain users on an ubuntu server?
[06:28] <ki7mt> English :-) .. Um it's bash
[06:28] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> o
[06:29] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> You didn't have to add the Um
[06:29] <vak0160> GuyThatNeedsHelp: it is .BASHrc file after all
[06:29] <ki7mt> bluezone, Disk Quotas, yes, not sure about NIC limits
[06:31] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :vak0160 It could have been a trick
[06:33] <vak0160> GuyThatNeedsHelp: haha
[06:33] <vak0160> # ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells.
[06:33] <Sunstream> hmm
[06:35] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Since i'm here i know how to move to different directories using cd but how would i go back? Example: cd Music then cd stuffstuff and now i'm in Music/stuffstuff how would i get back to Music without going back to home
[06:36] <vak0160> cd ..
[06:36] <ki7mt> cd ..
[06:36] <vak0160> `cd ~` to go home
[06:36] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> THANK YOU
[06:37] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> i could not find out how
[06:37] <ki7mt> Or create alias commands in your ".bashrc" file called: alias music='cd $HOME/Music'
[06:38] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> i used cd and it took me back home and i had to restart my adventure
[06:38] <ki7mt> then all you type is: Music
[06:40] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, Look into using bash alis commands, you can do untold number of functions / commands with them, including calling functions etc or scritps, whatever you need.
[06:40] <ki7mt> .. bash alias commands ..
[06:40] <trijntje> GuyThatNeedsHelp: use 'cd -' to go back to the previous directory
[06:41] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> trijntje: Can you tell me the difference from cd .. and cd - ?
[06:41] <trijntje> cd .. moves up one directory, cd - goes to the previous directory
[06:41] <vak0160> GuyThatNeedsHelp: try to spam cd - and you'll see
[06:45] <ressudesu> wow, i didnt know about cd -
[06:45] <vak0160> me too
[06:45] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Anyone know any other useful commands?
[06:46] <ki7mt> man bash
[06:46] <ressudesu> ping -f or rsync
[06:46] <vak0160> uname -a
[06:46] <trijntje> !! is the previous command, !$ is the previous argument
[06:46] <trijntje> apt-get update
[06:46] <trijntje> sudo !!
[06:46] <trijntje> works if you forget sudo
[06:46] <ki7mt> echo $? <= result from previous command
[06:46] <vak0160> history
[06:46] <ki7mt> cat
[06:46] <vak0160> tail
[06:46] <ki7mt> la -al
[06:46] <ki7mt> ls -al
[06:47] <vak0160> pwd
[06:47] <ressudesu> date
[06:47] <trijntje> xdg-open = open file with preferred application
[06:47] <ki7mt> for i in $file ; do echo $file ; done
[06:47] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> didnt know about man bash
[06:47] <ki7mt> whoop echo $i
[06:47] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> xdg-open .
[06:48] <ki7mt> use file itself, find out what a file is or has in it.
[06:49] <vak0160> also `clear`
[06:49] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> what about finding files?
[06:49] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> because when i use whereis it finds some of my main files
[06:50] <vak0160> `locate FileName` ?
[06:50] <ki7mt> locate or whereis <file-name>
[06:51] <ki7mt> which  .. like which python
[06:51] <vak0160> ps ax
[06:51] <vak0160> top
[06:51] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Php bro
[06:51] <ki7mt> pa -aux |grep <process-name> |awk '{print $2}'
[06:52] <ki7mt> or pa -aux |grep <process-name> |awk '{print $1 $2}'
[06:52] <trijntje> pidof firefox ;)
[06:53] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> what is this "pidof firefox"
[06:53] <ki7mt> I probably use uname, grep, awk, locate for / while loops the most.
[06:53] <vak0160> GuyThatNeedsHelp: gave you program ID of firefox
[06:54] <vak0160> so you can `kill <pid>` to kill program
[06:54] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> i use the killall firefox
[06:54] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> and it seems to wurk
[06:54] <Beldar> you can killall firefox
[06:54] <ki7mt> For example, Im using XChat at the moment, pidof xchat yeilds 3577, then you can kill it with kill 3577
[06:55] <ki7mt> pstree is another useful ps tool, if you can remember the name of the process
[06:55] <ki7mt> if you can't remember
[06:56] <vak0160> GuyThatNeedsHelp: careful with killall, some program use an intrepreter, like java or python
[06:57] <vak0160> not by its name
[06:57] <ki7mt> Yeah, killall should a last resort really
[06:57] <GLaDER>  After a reboot it seems like my video drivers broke. My previously working multi monitor setup failed and nod - after trying to fix it - I'm stuck with the following: All monitors will show up as wanted at login screen but trying to login to my Cinnamon environment will result in three black screens and a mouse cursor. Trying to login into Unity won't work either.
[06:57] <guest0292> What do I need to install to setup a build environment for a kernel driver in ubuntu 13.10?
[06:58] <ki7mt> guest0292, Not much, but 13.10 is EOL next month: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[07:00] <guest0292> I already downloaded the "kernel-package" (and it's dependancies) ..Does that include everything to compile a driver?
[07:01] <guest0292> sorry i'm getting all kinds of answers as the link above says i also need "build-dep linux-image-$(uname -r)"
[07:02] <ki7mt> guest0292, It says: Build Env ; If you've not built a kernel on your system before, there are some packages needed before you can successfully build. You can get these installed with:
[07:05] <guest0292> kl7mt, I don't want to build the kernel, just build a wifi driver.
[07:05] <guest0292> so i need to know what packages/metapackages i need to setup a driver compile environment.
[07:07] <ki7mt> guest0292, The you should look at the driver itself and determine what's required there, but using the kernel build-dep will probably cover most of the build tools needed.
[07:09] <guest0292> ok thanks will give it a shot
[07:10] <ki7mt> guest0292, Every package is different, but most are going to need a c-compiler, make, maybe autoconf, autotools-dev, libtool, etc etc.
[07:11] <hAwesome> hello everyone!
[07:11] <ki7mt> Hello
[07:12] <guest0292> seems that each version of ubuntu changes the required packges to setup driver build environment.  3.10 just said "unable to locate package build-dep"..   I recall having to install kernel headers and build-essential in previous versions..then i read i need the "kernel-package"...
[07:12] <guest0292> all i want to do is compile a wifi driver for the kernel...so i need a kernel build envirnoment
[07:12] <ki7mt> guest0292, did you do sudo apt-get build-dep .. .. ..
[07:13] <guest0292> I can't apt-get anything because I don't have internet (that's why I need to compile the wifi driver).. I'm having to use another PC to download the packages then copy them across to my compile pc.
[07:14] <guest0292> i'm using apt-get --print-uris to obtain the urls of each package so I can download them with wget -i
[07:14] <ki7mt> guest0292, That's a whole different issue then. Im not a WiFI GURU, but there's plety in here that are.
[07:15] <larsjaa> I have tried to Google it, but can not find out what the mediascanner in Ubuntu is for. Can anyone enlighten me? Please and thank you.
[07:16] <guest0292> ki7mt:  Thanks for your help anyway, i'll try the 'kernel-package' and see what happens, if not, then i'll download the linux image..
[07:16] <guest0292> http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/kernel-package
[07:18] <Beldar> larsjaa, It's not on a stock install.
[07:21] <ki7mt> It's in universe, was goign to DL it, and read the doc, as Im not sure about it either.
[07:22] <ki7mt> it's used in Unity-Scopes though
[07:22] <larsjaa> Beldar: Thank you. I found that, but strange that there no info on what the package do..
[07:23] <ki7mt> Yeah, nor is that any info in the package descriptions using apt-cache show
[07:25] <ki7mt> larsjaa, from doxygen: The <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/tv">Ubuntu TV</a> media scanner
[07:25] <ki7mt> maintains a list of media files available to the user along with meta-data
[07:25] <ki7mt> for those files. These may be accessed from a local file system which is
[07:25] <ki7mt> physically attached to the device or via network mounts or sharing protocols.
[07:26] <ki7mt> SRI for the FLOOD !
[07:26] <larsjaa> kim7mt: I guess it is for the Unity "start" page then. Thank you for help.
[07:27] <ki7mt> larsjaa, Yes, Unnity Scopes use it, and a few other packages.
[07:27] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Would anything really bad happen if i messed up .bashrc
[07:28] <sloppyf> Hey guys. I installed some software and quickly after the ubuntu store was missing, i can't bring up "about this computer" the settings applet is missing, and add-apt doesn't work. When I try to upgrade, I am just given a long list of things it suggest I remove. Programs that look like they came with ubuntu. What should I do?
[07:30] <Beldar> sloppyf, what software was this?
[07:30] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, well you login would be a bit mess, just make a backup first, cp ~/.bashrc ~/.bashrc-orig then hack away, if it goes sideways, copy it back.
[07:30] <sloppyf> Beldar: crossover.
[07:31] <agentp> hello
[07:31] <agentp> are you a human\'\\
[07:31] <agentp> reset
[07:31] <agentp> sudo apt-get install skynet
[07:31] <sloppyf> Beldar: what should I do?
[07:32] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> whats this skynet?
[07:32] <Beldar> sloppyf, no idea
[07:34] <ki7mt> It's a SETI like app to look for pulsars and such.
[07:34] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Can you restore system settings on linux like windows?
[07:34] <trijntje> which settings?
[07:34] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I feel ashamed saying windows
[07:34] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> All settings
[07:35] <trijntje> yes, if you backup all files on your system you have a backup of all settings
[07:36] <cynicallemon> usually i do a backup of /etc and /home which tends to cover most settings
[07:36] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, until your comfortable using Linux, you may want to play / test in a Virtual Environment, then if thing break, you can just re-install the VM.
[07:40] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Do you know how to restart ubuntu from terminal?
[07:41] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> im scared to type restart
[07:41] <cynicallemon> reboot or sudo reboot
[07:41] <vak0160> GuyThatNeedsHelp: that's the command
[07:42] <wat> im looking for something like graphviz but 3d, like in space ? any open source engines if thats what im looking for ?
[07:42] <wat> only for creating simple bubbles and texts
[07:42] <wat> i like bubbles
[07:43] <ki7mt> wat, gnuplot does all sorts of 3d graphs, not easy to learn, but very capable.
[07:44] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> My terminal format: \[\e]0; \u-\h;\w\a$PS1
[07:44] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> \ "space"
[07:44] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> FACE SLAP
[07:45] <ki7mt> Indeed :-)
[07:46] <Razorblade> abrecus: Hello Abrecus, can you help me clearing a doubt on checkinstall?
[07:46] <Razorblade> Abrecus: Hello Abrecus, can you help me clearing a doubt on checkinstall?
[07:46] <ki7mt> Razorblade, what's the question
[07:47] <Razorblade> ki7mt: thanks sr
[07:47] <Razorblade> I read that checkinstall keeps track of software built from source so that it can be added to package management system, thus provides an easier way of removal of built software.
[07:48] <ki7mt> Yes, it does.
[07:48] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> \[\e]0;\ \u-\h;\w\a$PS1
[07:48] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :(
[07:49] <ki7mt> I use it along with auto-apt to test source builds with, does a nice job.
[07:50] <ki7mt> Razorblade, Please us the channel, rather than PM so others can answer or benefit from the Q&A
[07:50] <ki7mt> Please use .. ..
[07:50] <Razorblade> ki7mt: ok sir.. please dont mistake me. Iam new in using IRC
[07:51] <Razorblade> Another advantage is that it helps in making .deb slackware or rpm package so that we need not build it manually again and again in various computers. Isn't it?
[07:51] <ki7mt> That's ok, just ask in here, lots of folks know way more than I do.
[07:51] <Razorblade> yeah, thanks ki7mt. Another advantage is that it helps in making .deb slackware or rpm package so that we need not build it manually again and again in various computers. Isn't it?
[07:52] <ki7mt> Razorblade, You still need to build the package, but checkinstall manages the installation and uninstall for the package.
[07:53] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> 0;\ bacon-O3D;~\[\e\]0;\ \u-\h;\w\a$PS1
[07:53] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> WHAT
[07:53] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> IS THIS
[07:53] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> HELP
[07:53] <ki7mt> Razorblade, And yes, you could copy it to other computers, but it's no recommended, unless you use something like pbuilder and a strict clean environment to build the .deb file.
[07:53] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I CANT SWIM HELP
[07:53] <Razorblade> ok, but let us assume a scenario. I want to build codeblocks manually. and I have installed its dependencies manually (Please make a note. Dependencies also manually built)
[07:54] <Razorblade> and I am now in a situation that i want to reinstall my Ubuntu. Say please assume this situation
[07:54] <ki7mt> Razorblade, If yo want to populate it to other computers, read up on building Ubuntu packlages, which sill ptell you to use either pbuilder or pbuilder-dist, even sbuild to generate the .ldeb file, then distribute it.
[07:55] <Razorblade> Will that checkinstall create a .deb package alongwith the dependencies or only creates a .deb package with codeblocks unmindful of dependencies?
[07:55] <ki7mt> sri about the typos, my KB is hosed at the moment.
[07:56] <Razorblade> if that makes a .deb package alongwith dependencies, would it be easier just to install the deb opackage without hassle?
[07:56] <ki7mt> Razorblade, Yes, it will create a .deb file, but it's based on the machine you you run it on.
[07:56] <Razorblade> yes, I run Ubuntu 14.04LTS
[07:57] <ki7mt> Razorblade, But, it will not create and debin/rules file, nor will it create a dependencies file, for that you need pbuild or similar.
[07:57] <ki7mt> Razorblade, Checkinstall assumes you ahve the dependencies met on the target install machine.
[07:58] <Razorblade> So I have to install the dependencies on the target machine and then use the .deb package?
[07:58] <Ben64> Razorblade: why do all of that anyway? its not supported at all, and the version in the repositories is up to date
[07:59] <Razorblade> Ben64: because I don't have internet connectivity for the Ubuntu machine.
[07:59] <Ben64> then download the packages?
[08:00] <Razorblade> yes, I am downloading the packages manually and building it by myself..
[08:00] <Razorblade> i.e the source codes
[08:00] <Ben64> just get the packages instead...
[08:00] <ki7mt> Razorblade, Yes, that would be acceptable, but the documentation of checkinstall states, you should use the generated .deb file for this purpose. Look into useing pbuilder for what your trying to accomplish, that the right tool for the job your describing.
[08:00] <Ben64> you're making it many times harder than necessary
[08:00] <ki7mt> .. states, you should "not" use the .deb file .. .. .
[08:01] <Razorblade> Ben64: But I have got no other way. thought of using Keryx too, but it requires some more wx packages to be installed,  no more mess
[08:01] <Ben64> but you're downloading the source... just download the binaries...
[08:01] <ki7mt> Ben64, That all depends on, if the package is in Debian/Ubuntu .. if not, then he has to build it one way or another.
[08:01] <Razorblade> binaries??
[08:02] <Ben64> !info codeblocks
[08:02] <ki7mt> That's the IDE, if that's all he needs, then, yes, just install CB
[08:02] <Razorblade> then one more thing I am hearing several techincal terms Universe.. etc etc reading their documentation too, didnt make me clear
[08:04] <pintsizedterror> hello
[08:04] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> ki7mt has saved the day
[08:04] <Razorblade> ki7mt But building it also requires additional dependencies isn't it. Say if it has four or five dependencies, doesnt matter. If it has 50 or 100 of missing dependenccies then lisfe becomes miserable.. Dependency HEll
[08:04] <Ben64> yet compiling all the dependencies along with it is easier???????
[08:05] <ki7mt> Razorblade, If the package you want is in the Ubuntu Repo, APT takes care of all that.
[08:05] <Razorblade> Ben64: I can't understand?!
[08:05] <Razorblade> ki7mt: thats what the real prob is. Using repo requires ACTIVE INTERNET CONNECTIVITY!
[08:05] <Ben64> thats why you can DOWNLOAD THE PACKAGES
[08:06] <ki7mt> Razorblade, Maybe try explaining what you are trying to do, and we can better advise you.
[08:06] <Ben64> or simply plug it into the internet for the 5 minutes it takes to get it
[08:06] <Razorblade> Ben64: but where?
[08:06] <Ben64> packages.ubuntu.com
[08:06] <Razorblade> Ben64: where the packages are?
[08:06] <Ben64> packages.ubuntu.com
[08:06] <Razorblade> no readymade packages!
[08:07] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Thanks for all the information
[08:07] <Ben64> the hell are you talking about?
[08:07] <Razorblade> ben64: I meant Dependency Hell!
[08:07] <ki7mt> Razorblade, What program do you need?
[08:07] <Razorblade> ben64: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependency_hell
[08:07] <pintsizedterror> Hey, I have a quick question: I'm new to Linux, and while I have prior tech experience- Well how do I take care of a linux machine apart from the expected don't get wet, don't feed after midnight
[08:08] <Ben64> so your solution to downloading a few deb packages is to download the source for it, and the source for every library it might need, and compile them all? that is insane!
[08:08] <Razorblade> Ben64: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependency_hell
[08:08] <cynicallemon> isn't dependency hell for rpm packaged systems?
[08:09] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Wait, does anyone know how to change the default directory for terminal?
[08:10] <ki7mt> pintsizedterror, Honestly, there's very little maintenance needed for average users. Servers and log ratations things like that help, there's not much one has to do really, not like Windows.,
[08:11] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, you mean when you start the gnome-terminal ?
[08:11] <Razorblade> Ben64:Yes its really annoying. everytime I make a source download and try to build,  missing dependency. Finding that dependency and diownloading it, it states "Missing dependency"
[08:11] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Yes
[08:11] <pintsizedterror> No monthly Defragging?
[08:11] <Tex_Nick> pintsizedterror: if you're referring to the movie Gremlins ... Linux isn't a Gremlin ... hey it just works ;)
[08:11] <Ben64> Razorblade: then stop downloading sources!
[08:11] <Razorblade> A chain is formed
[08:11] <pintsizedterror> cool!
[08:11] <Ben64> Razorblade: stop. downloading. sources.
[08:11] <Razorblade> Ben64: But no other go!
[08:12] <Ben64> Razorblade: indeed yes other do go
[08:12] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> by default its home but since i do more stuff in "Desktop" i wanted that to be my default directory
[08:12] <Razorblade> Ben64: :) there is???
[08:12] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, Just add a line to you ~/.bashrc file, at the end: cd ~/myfolder  or whereever you want to start in.
[08:13] <cynicallemon> yep ki7mt is correct
[08:13] <DamienCassou> hi
[08:13] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, so if you want it to start in ~/Desktop, add cd ~/Desktop as the last line in ~/.bashrc
[08:14] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> "fi cd ~/Desktop"?
[08:15] <ki7mt> pintsizedterror, Defrag isn't needed on Linux file systems, we could go into great lengths as to why, but suffice it to say, it's not.
[08:15] <cynicallemon> GuyThatNeedsHelp, no fi
[08:15] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, no "fi"  .. just:   cd ~/Desktop
[08:15] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Just cd alone?
[08:15] <pintsizedterror> huh...alright. It's because of the way files are stored aye?
[08:16] <ki7mt> pintsizedterror, here ya go: http://www.howtogeek.com/115229/htg-explains-why-linux-doesnt-need-defragmenting/
[08:16] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> THANKS YOU
[08:16] <pintsizedterror> cheer!
[08:16] <pintsizedterror> *cheers!
[08:17] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> KI7MT AND CYNICALLEMON, I LOVE YOU
[08:17] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> NO homo
[08:17] <cynicallemon> not needed
[08:17] <cynicallemon> just send money :)
[08:18] <DamienCassou> I have to test a mainline kernel because I have hardware problems with the Ubuntu one. However, I have neither sound nor wifi on this mainline kernel and I can't reproduce the problem. Is there a way to install sound and wifi on this mainline kernel?
[08:19] <ikonia> you don't install sound and wifi
[08:19] <ikonia> they are part of the kernel
[08:19] <pintsizedterror> I see, so the file system leaves a large amount of space between files, large enough that there is rarely need for more, and if it does it just shuffles stuff around till there is more room
[08:19] <DamienCassou> ikonia: ok. But they are not on the mainline one.
[08:19] <pintsizedterror> thanks!
[08:19] <ikonia> if you can't reproduce the problem on mainline - then boot back into the ubuntu stable kernel and delete the mainline package
[08:20] <DamienCassou> ikonia: I think the problem is related to the sound driver
[08:20] <cynicallemon> isnt Ubuntu One about to close?
[08:20] <ikonia> so then your test is invalid
[08:20] <ikonia> DamienCassou: remove the mainline kernel and return to the ubuntu stable build
[08:21] <ikonia> cynicallemon: yes
[08:21] <pintsizedterror> I believe so CynicalLemon
[08:22] <DamienCassou> ikonia: and what can I do to help developers fix the problem?
[08:23] <cynicallemon> ah lol, misread DamienCassou problem, was wondering how Ubuntu One would cause hardware problems - he was meaning the Ubuntu (one) kernel :)
[08:24] <ikonia> DamienCassou: state that you can't replicate it on mainline
[08:24] <ki7mt> Yeah, Im depressed about UB1, I liked using it.
[08:26] <DamienCassou> ikonia: the problem is that it is not so clear :-). The sound problem manifests itself by preventing me from resuming after suspend. And on the mainline kernel, I also had a problem of resume/suspend. I'm not sure, but I think these problems have different causes.
[08:27] <ikonia>  DamienCassou so you can't replicate your sound setup on mainline, and the suspend and resume problems exist, report back
[08:27] <ikonia> DamienCassou: just report back the facts, thats how you help
[08:28] <Razorblade> Ben64: whats the other way
[08:28] <Ben64> Razorblade: i've told you many times already. download the normal deb packages and install them. same as apt-get would, except without internet
[08:30] <Razorblade> Ben64: Sorry Ben64 I got lost in mesaages :( Sorry again
[08:31] <Ben64> Razorblade: look up 8 lines...
[08:32] <TomyWork> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html This stopped working. Does anyone have a working java package for 12.04?
[08:32] <svip> I have an old piece of hardware (laptop) I am trying to get on wireless.  rfkill tells me that the internal wireless card is hard blocked, and clicking the button does not work (the network manager agrees).
[08:33] <svip> I also have a D-Link-card DWA-645, which rfkill also detects, including the network manager.
[08:33] <svip> But the network manager insists it is disabled by hardware, while rfkill disagrees.
[08:34] <svip> Lastly, I have a D-Link USB-wireless connection thingie, that Ubuntu doesn't detect at all.
[08:35] <svip> From the internet searching I have done, most people seem to concur that both these devices should work without problem.
[08:35] <hateball> svip: What chipset does it use?
[08:35] <svip> hateball: The internal one?
[08:36] <hateball> svip: Well, the one that gets detected but does not work
[08:36] <hateball> svip: If you plug in the USB one and run "lsusb" you get nothing?
[08:36] <svip> hateball: It says "D-Link Corp."
[08:36] <svip> But nothing else.
[08:37] <Ben64> svip: that is impossible
[08:37] <hateball> svip: It should have an 8-digit ID
[08:37] <pintsizedterror> I'm going to go to bed. Thanks for sharing a bit of your knowledge of Linux with me!
[08:37] <svip> Ben64: Well, before that it says 2001:3c15
[08:38] <hateball> so it's RT2870
[08:38] <svip> http://www.dlink.com/uk/en/support/product/dwa-645-wireless-n-cardbus-adapter << This card works.
[08:38] <svip> Or rather, gets detected.
[08:38] <svip> But it doesn't actually work.
[08:38] <peho> Hi
[08:39] <peho> how can I install lirc on ubuntu12.04
[08:39] <Aeyoun> Opera 24 for Linux is out. http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2014/06/opera-24-linux-released-developer-stream/
[08:39] <hateball> svip: I guess that card should be listed with "lspci", so if you can find the ID for that it would be helpful
[08:39] <Ben64> peho: sudo apt-get install lirc
[08:40] <cynicallemon> does anyone use Opera?
[08:40] <wat> opera ? whats that
[08:40] <cynicallemon> web browser
[08:40] <hateball> svip: What release of Ubuntu are you on? The rt2870 drivers should be in the kernel since... a long time ago
[08:40] <wat> it was mainly a compression utility before it's alpha
[08:41] <Aeyoun> Linux releases of Opera have been absent from version 12.17 until 24.
[08:41] <peho> I am trying but when I restart service I dont receive any message
[08:41] <wat> all releases of opera are the same dont worry
[08:41] <cynicallemon> hateball, and sometimes they get pulled fro the kernel
[08:42] <hateball> cynicallemon: Yes. But I'm using this chipset myself on a recent kernel
[08:42] <wat> opera itself should be absent from this world
[08:43] <wat> chrome is the best
[08:43] <svip> hateball: 12.04.4 LTS, lspci detects two wireless cards: 02:01.0 Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04) and 07:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR5416 Wireless Network Adapter [AR5008 802.11(a)bgn] (rev 01)
[08:44] <svip> This matches what I have read, that the D-Link adapter gets detected as Qualcomm.
[08:44] <cynicallemon> browsers are like mens taste in women, some like blondes or brunettes or redheads...
[08:44] <svip> cynicallemon: So Firefox is a redhead?
[08:45] <cynicallemon> Firefox can be a bitch lol
[08:45] <ki7mt> It's something, what, the jury is still out on
[08:45] <hateball> svip: Have you checked in the driver manager if there are restricted drivers to install? iirc the ath9k is one such
[08:45] <svip> hateball: I read that ath9k was now standard in Ubuntu.
[08:46] <svip> I can even modprobe it without complaint.
[08:46] <cynicallemon> i tend to go Firefox or Chromium with pepperflash plugin
[08:46] <kieuhienhp> g
[08:46] <svip> hateball: Not that that works, of course.
[08:46] <hateball> svip: well it is probably missing the firmware
[08:46] <svip> hateball: Sounds like, yes.
[08:47] <svip> But there are no restricted drivers to be installed.
[08:48] <cynicallemon> i had a tplink usb dongle which worked with a lot of effort in 12.04 but from 12.10 was a complete waste of time and effort
[08:49] <kieuhienhp> có ai ở việt nam không vậy
[08:49] <svip> hateball: Hmm... when I insert the card, it just says I have lost connection to the internet.
[08:49] <svip> There is a strange situation where it is clearly understanding what it is, but it is unable to activate it.
[08:51] <svip> hateball: If I run lshw -c network, I can see all three networks (eth0 and both wlans), but both wlans are listed as disabled.
[08:54] <salah> Hi, I have installed vsftpd and are still getting connection refused when trying to connect via port 21. Here is my config: http://pastebin.com/NUSgGNgu
[08:54] <salah> When connecting via port 22 (sftp), everything works great. Any ideas please?
[08:55] <calju16> heya folks, hows it going?
[08:55] <calju16> is anyone else having trouble with netflix/silverlight installation errors?
[08:55] <cynicallemon> salah, firewall blocking 21?
[08:56] <hateball> svip: well, was there anything available with restricted drivers? check when you have the cards plugged in of course
[08:57] <somsip> salah: what version of ubuntu, and how did you install vsftpd?
[08:57] <salah> cynicallemon: No, there is no firewall installed at all
[08:58] <somsip> salah: if 14.04 I believe there is a kernel bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vsftpd/+bug/1313450
[08:58] <cynicallemon> salah, silly question but sftp is more secure so do you need ftp?
[08:58] <salah> somsip: Ubuntu 12.04, installed via apt-get and has version of 2.3.5. Kernel has version of 3.2.0-64-generic
[09:01] <salah> cynicallemon: The connected webcam uses only FTP, or I would make the world easier for my self aswell :-)
[09:01] <somsip> salah: ok - not related tot hat bug then...
[09:02] <cynicallemon> salah, useless webcam manufacturers lol
[09:02] <salah> somsip: yes it is, I am trying to connect via Filezilla first before I try the webcam :-)
[09:02] <salah> cynicallemon: yeah :-)
[09:03] <svip> hateball: I think the program is broken; there is just a white box, but it doesn't look like it's finished drawing.
[09:04] <chenzen> can somebody recommend an application like konqueror that can be a web browser and file manager?
[09:05] <svip> Internet Explorer.
[09:05] <cynicallemon> lol
[09:05] <cynicallemon> svip, that shares files across the ne too
[09:05] <cynicallemon> *net
[09:06] <salah> somsip: thanks for the link you provided. The solution (#19) tells me to go enable -proposed on kernel. Is this a option I can enable this without compiling/installing new kernel?
[09:09] <ki7mt> salah, accoding to this, you'll be installing, but no build required: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
[09:10] <somsip> salah: no idea. I just some a reference to vsftpd and 14.04 kernel issues a few days and thought it might be relevant
[09:10] <somsip> s/some/saw
[09:19] <cylonmath> Hi, I am completely lost. I want to install CUDA (4.x) and use a good Nvidia Driver for my GPU (System Specs: Ubuntu 14.04 64bit,  i7-2600K, Nvidia GTX560 Ti). Anyone know a working tutorial for me? Things I tried from google gave me black screen al the time...
[09:20] <salah> Ok, so this proposed don't work, and the vsftpd log is empty. A interesting thing is that when I run service vsftpd restart, I get: "stop: Unknown instance:" which means something is stopping it up. Any idea where I can look?
[09:20] <iptable> salah, it's crashing or stopping on error. tried vsftpd logs or running vsftpd in debug mode?
[09:21] <salah> iptable: yes, I am checking the vsftpd log, it's empty. Is there any system log or something I can check to debug further?
[09:21] <iptable> salah, /var/log/xferlog and /var/log/vsftpd.log and /var/log/syslog as well as dmesg
[09:22] <smss1995> cylonmath: I think you must to search for your technical information that provided in : ~$ lspci | grep -i vga
[09:23] <iptable> salah, also try running vsftpd on it's own, not through a start/stop script. that may output something useful to the shell
[09:23] <iptable> cylonmath, you want to install the nvidia driver to being with, is that correct?
[09:24] <cylonmath> iptable: That's correct. And then proceed with a cuda installation which is compatible with that driver (so that I can build CUDA samples and run)
[09:24] <iptable> cylonmath, assuming you have an nvidia card (lspci to confirm), use uname -a to check what version of kernel you are running, then using apt get install: 1. build-essential, 2. linux-header-YOUR-KERNEL-VERSION (you can find all by doing apt-cache search linux-header), 3. nvidia driver.
[09:24] <iptable> cylonmath, install all using apt-get
[09:25] <iptable> cylonmath, including the nvidia driver and nvidia-settings etc
[09:25] <iptable> cylonmath, once you complete that, reboot and make sure the system runs with the nvidia driver (screen still loads, and lsmod |grep -i nvidia does retuen the drive). Once that is done, you can install CUDA, which will be outside my perimiter knowledge
[09:26] <iptable> cylonmath, note: if headers are unavailable for your running kernel, upgrade the kernel to latest version
[09:27] <cylonmath> Thank you very much sir. I will try those steps carefully one more time.
[09:27] <zenzero100> Ciao :)
[09:27] <iptable> cylonmath, CODA? mining bitcoins using your GPU? I hope you got damn good cooling and a spare GPU just in case this one burns out... they do.
[09:28] <iptable> cylonmath, oh, and do apt-get update before you start please
[09:29] <lepot> can somebody say why I get this error? https://imgur.com/2oeCgRV
[09:29] <iptable> lepot, is that supposed to be funny?
[09:30] <cylonmath> iptable: I need to use CUDA to speed up my linear algebra solvers
[09:30] <iptable> cylonmath, oh, that's fine then :)
[09:33] <iptable> cylonmath, something like this should do everything for you for the nvidia bit: apt-get update; apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`; apt-get install nvidia-331-updates nvidia-331-update-uvm nvidia-settings
[09:33] <egsome> What is the most lightweight alternative to XFCE ? I need the least usage of RAM
[09:33] <iptable> cylonmath, assuming here that you do have a kenrel for which headers are in the repos. if not, as stated, upgrade kernel first
[09:34] <iptable> cylonmath, and install cuda from repos once you have tested the the graphics card loads correctly after reboot. I can't help with cuda, no knowledge here ;)
[09:34] <iptable> egsome, X on it's own ;)
[09:34] <iptable> egsome, LXDE
[09:35] <ki7mt> egsome, See toward the bottom of the page: http://www.renewablepcs.com/about-linux/kde-gnome-or-xfce
[09:35] <ki7mt> It's a bit dated, but close to actual mem usage
[09:35] <egsome> iptable, Didn't feel good on LXDE .. Any better alternatives ?
[09:35] <iptable> ki7mt, nice, i'm saving that link :)
[09:36] <vak0160> egsome: openbox on its own
[09:36] <iptable> egsome, check the link ki7mt sent. it has a nice table at the bottom saying "ram used" comparison per DE
[09:36] <egsome> ki7mt, That's great, thanks.
[09:36] <egsome> iptable, I will do, thanks.
[09:36]  * iptable goes away
[09:37] <egsome> vak0160, How much RAM ?
[09:37] <vak0160> egsome: lower than lxde, since lxde using openbox
[09:38] <cylonmath> iptable: I think I will go with 304.x drivers
[09:38] <vak0160> see crunchbang os for example
[09:38] <cylonmath> iptable: that version gave me trouble with cuda installation last time
[09:39] <ki7mt> Openbox 76MB, LXDE 82MB, according to the links analysis, IceWM comes in at 53MB
[09:40] <egsome> Anybody tried Mate with Ubuntu ?
[09:40] <ki7mt> But the WM is just part, Enlightenment is probably the lightest overal DE at 72MB
[09:41] <ki7mt> Yes, I've use Mate, it's ok. I prefer Razor-QT or LXDE though
[09:41] <Taplu> ubuntu is a Joke
[09:41] <Taplu> It is very unstable
[09:42] <bcvery> Taplu, ranting/venting in #ubuntu-offtopic, please keep this chat clear for support
[09:42] <Taplu> oka
[09:42] <Taplu> okay*
[09:43] <Taplu> Ubuntu sucks!!!
[09:43] <DJones> Taplu: Please stop that
[09:43] <Taplu> Why can't you use Gnome...Unity is crap
[09:44] <bazhang_> Taplu, use gnome-shell if you dont like unity
[09:44] <ryu13212> Taplu:you can use Gnome-shell
[09:44] <Taplu> Actually Linus is Crap
[09:45] <Taplu> Linux*
[09:45] <bazhang_> Taplu, otherwise, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:45] <Taplu> Windows 8 speaking
[09:46] <Taplu_Returns> I am back !!! Please don't remove me
[09:47] <bazhang_> Taplu_Returns, here is support only
[09:47] <Taplu_Returns> I hate Linux
[09:47] <bazhang_> Taplu_Returns, wrong channel for that
[09:47] <ki7mt> How did we know that was gonna happen :-)
[09:50] <ki7mt> Has the #ubuntu+1 room name changed ?
[09:50] <DJones> ki7mt: Nope, still the same
[09:50] <ki7mt> Hmm ok, thanks
[09:51] <ki7mt> Hee,, would help if I spelled it correctly Duh!!
[09:57] <untaken_> Hi, I am trying to install Ubuntu on a laptop alongside windows, when I get to the part where I choose the partitiion, the button 'Install Now' is greyed out. Any ideas?
[09:58] <untaken_> I have tried Ubuntu and Lubuntu and both do exactly the same
[09:58] <ryu13212> Um...
[09:58] <sveta> you have to choose first, then it will let you install
[09:59] <untaken_> you mean click on the block?
[09:59] <untaken_> let me retry...
[10:00] <ki7mt> Yeah, click the partition, then unless you want to an advanced setup, select side-by-side, that's what I use, works up through Win8 for the boxes I've setup.
[10:01] <untaken_> rebooting process, but did think I did this... be silly if I didn't ;)
[10:01] <cylonmath> iptable, still same. After installing driver 304,  Black screen at login window ( but I can hear the sound, it expects me to enter pass)
[10:02] <cylonmath> maybe this is a monitor compatability problem
[10:02] <Conna> tet to ret :v
[10:07] <untaken_> it don't work. There is windows and ubuntu and scroll bar thing. I move it left and right and I click on ubuntu as many times as I like, but the install now button is still grey
[10:07] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys i have a very silly question/picky question...I am using Xubuntu 12.04, love it, using the default kinda dark theme (GTK) - when using android sdk elipse or leafpad i notice that the background in the notepad and is dark gray, which looks nice but all the text is too dark, and in the android sdk editor the dark purple is impossible to see, how can i change these things without using another theme in the apperence settings?
[10:07] <untaken_> bit of a fail this
[10:12] <ryu13212> select back and try to use "advanced"
[10:21] <amincd> When I run this: http://paste.linuxassist.net/view/827fd7d8 I'm getting this error: "bash: warning: here-document at line 0 delimited by end-of-file (wanted `EOF')"
[10:21] <amincd> when I run the portion starting from "sshpass.." directly in terminal, it works
[10:22] <amincd> any pointers?
[10:27] <clemens> When i start Ubuntu my volume control panel in the tray is always missing. Any ideas? (Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit with Unity)
[10:31] <ryu13212> volume controll? use system setup
[10:32] <clemens> ryu13212, yes that little white speaker :D ... what do you mean with system setup?
[10:33] <ryu13212> seting volume with system setup.
[10:34] <clemens> ryu13212, yes sure but i want it back in the tray^^
[10:41] <Guest54606> hi
[10:41] <Guest54606> how i can be pentester?
[10:42] <ryu13212> sudo apt-get install indicator-sound?
[10:42] <ryu13212> sudo apt-get install indicator-sound
[10:43] <bcvery> clemens, have you seen this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/363354/the-sound-volume-indicator-disappeard-ubuntu-13-10
[10:43] <ryu13212> (if you purge pluseaudio)
[10:44] <bcvery> clemens, I realise you're using 14.04, but that shouldn't affect the advise given there
[10:44] <clemens> bcvery, no i haven't! thx i will try it :)
[10:46] <iptable> cylonmath, did you try to install driver 331-updates and confirm the issue still persists
[10:46] <iptable> cylonmath, please also provide (pastebin) output of lspci
[10:47] <iptable> cylonmath, and check GPU compatibility with linux and driver
[10:48] <bnutzer> hello. how to add applets to the tray in 14.04? also, how to change the default font?
[10:52] <mateusz_> hello. I'm using computer with a 1 gb ram. Ubuntu freeze when I'm using over 70% RAM usually during opening a new tab in forefox (all plugins are trned off). After that happend HDD LED is on all the time.
[10:53] <iptable> mateusz_, either it isn't a RAM issue, or you ran out of RAM and hit SWAP space on the HDD
[10:54] <iptable> in that case the system is trying to swap in/out
[10:55] <bnutzer> mateusz_: sounds like you've got a system that is bad at swapping. you could try changing some i/o scheduler settings
[10:55] <iptable> mateusz_, wait for it to finish and either shut down software, or reboot. you have run out of RAM. for systems with low ram, you can use lubuntu or linux mint mate (ubuntu with a low requirement GUI pretty much).
[10:56] <mateusz_> I checked ram and is ok. It doen's matter whether swan is on or off. After that I'm able to go to terminal and run "free" command and i still have over 200 mb free ram
[10:56] <iptable> mateusz_, run sudo iotop (you may bneed to install it first)
[10:56] <mateusz_> ps. running that command takes about 15 min
[10:56] <iptable> mateusz_, it will show you what is thrashing the HDD
[10:57] <iptable> mateusz_, you could have a failing HDD...
[10:57] <mateusz_> "sudo iotop" shows that all programs want to read from HDD
[10:57] <iptable> mateusz_, it shows programs in the "most reads/writes" order
[10:57] <iptable> mateusz_, the ones on top will show you which ones are doing most read/writes?
[10:59] <mateusz_> all programs I see in iotop are reading from HDD, it doesn't happen before freeze
[10:59] <Ben64> mateusz_: then have it running before freeze, maybe from ssh
[10:59] <iptable> mateusz_, is there one or 2 that have significantly more read/write in the numbers section than the others?
[11:00] <mateusz_> yes, firefox
[11:00] <iptable> restart firefox
[11:00] <iptable> see if issue is resolved
[11:00] <mateusz_> when i kill firefox usually everything backs to normal but that takes about 30 min
[11:01] <iptable> aaah
[11:01] <mateusz_> most of the time i have to use REISUB
[11:01] <bnutzer> how to change the default font in unity?
[11:01] <zzZZzz-ubuqity> Hello
[11:01] <iptable> install lm-sensors and check temp when it goes wrong
[11:01] <iptable> mateusz_, ^
[11:01] <mateusz_> temp around 50 %, no exceed cpu usage
[11:02] <iptable> i mean temperature
[11:02] <iptable> in degrees c
[11:02] <cylonmath> iptable, Maybe it is incompatible : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1310406
[11:02] <mateusz_> sorru 50 degree
[11:03] <iptable> mateusz_, does the problem persist if you use other browsers (like chromium), or just with firefox?
[11:03] <zzZZzz-ubuqity> I have an .MP4 video made with the cellphone, and I need to Rotate the video in Landscape mode to be wachable on laptop, and more over I need to convert it into a free format (free container .something example .ogg .mkv etc. with free video and free audio codecs)
[11:03] <zzZZzz-ubuqity> how can I do that from ubuntu studio?
[11:03] <iptable> cylonmath, that is very possible. try driver 331 thou
[11:03] <mateusz_> I didn't check that I'm using only firefox (I'm new ubuntu user)
[11:04] <mateusz_> but all plugins are turned off
[11:04] <bnutzer> mateusz_: have you tried another, possibly older distro on the same hw?
[11:04] <iptable> mateusz_, install another browser and check. most most likely it is RAM starving
[11:05] <iptable> mateusz_, when you run free, it's when swapping already happens so you may see free ram, but it's still swapping. install a less RAM requiring distro, like lubuntu.
[11:05] <lansch> hallo suche skype softwear für ubuntu 64 bit
[11:05] <bnutzer> lansch: englisch
[11:05] <mateusz_> now i'm using 12.04, in new ubuntu distio thats happened more often
[11:06] <bnutzer> lansch: and when it comes to softwear, consult your local clothes dealer :)
[11:06] <bcvery> zzZZzz-ubuqity, I'd use avconv, then run something like: avconv -i file.mp4 -vf transpose=1 out.mkv
[11:06] <bnutzer> thanks for support
[11:07] <zzZZzz-ubuqity> I am not confortable with command line, isn't there some GUI conversion video software?
[11:07] <Ben64> cylonmath: you have 8600m?
[11:07] <Ben64> zzZZzz-ubuqity: its as easy as running the command given to you, its not scary, learn something new! :D
[11:08] <cylonmath> Ben64, Geforce GTX560 Ti connected to an HDMI monitor
[11:08] <mateusz_> now i'm testing it with swap turned off. Thats why i cant understand, it seems to be caused by lack or ram but "free" shows around 200 mb free
[11:08] <Ben64> cylonmath: then why did you link to 8600m thing?
[11:08] <clemens> bcvery, okey in the login screen the volume applet is there but when i log in it disappears
[11:08] <cylonmath> Ben64, I have the same error in dmesg and both cards are Geforce
[11:09] <tdrusk> I recently installed ubuntu 14.04, but it appears that my gtk2 apps are not using my gtk theme. I am just trying to use the default theme. How can I just reset everything?
[11:09] <mateusz_> anyway
[11:09] <Ben64> cylonmath: you should be using the 331 driver
[11:09] <bcvery> clemens, Annoying; sorry, not able to help further.  Ask your question again and hopefully someone else will be able to help.
[11:09] <mateusz_> i'll try different browser
[11:09] <mateusz_> thx
[11:09] <clemens> bcvery, okey thx for your help i will try :)
[11:12] <cylonmath> Ben64, I was trying 304 to be compatible with CUDA. But if it doesnt work now, I will try 331?
[11:13] <Ben64> cylonmath: 304 is the legacy driver, likely doesn't support the gtx 560. 331 works with cuda so i'm not sure of a reason to not use it
[11:13] <nszceta> How can I generate a GraphML file from UML?
[11:17] <Gabriel_> Hello All. I just transferred my hard drive from one laptop to another (lubuntu 14.04) the same hardware (same laptop) I can't seem to get the networking to work. I have WiFi available but i can even seem to get any internet connection, help please.
[11:18] <iptable> Gabriel_, if you connect your phone to that wifi, does it stay connected and does it browse the internet now? like at this very moment
[11:18] <Gabriel_> iptable: Yes
[11:18] <iptable> Gabriel_, home or office network?
[11:19] <Gabriel_> iptable: Office, but it all changed after replacing the HD from one laptop to another
[11:19] <TJ-> Gabriel: It is probably that the MAC address of the network adapter was stored in the network configuration. Edit the saved connections and reselect from the available MACs
[11:20] <iptable> Gabriel_, I am asking that question as the MAC address changed. This could mean ither that 1. you need to get ubuntu reconfigured for new network card, or 2. your office could be doing mac-based-filtering and require you to use the same mac always.
[11:20] <Gabriel_> TJ-: I tried looking for it /etc/network/interfaces, but no luck
[11:20] <iptable> Gabriel_, do you actually get connected to a wifi, or not even that?
[11:20] <Gabriel_> iptable: 1 is the best bet
[11:21] <iptable> Gabriel_, from experience, 2 is best bet, but let's try 1.
[11:21] <Gabriel_> iptable: nothing
[11:21] <iptable> Gabriel_, ifconfig -a; iwconfig -a
[11:21] <m1dnight__> hey guys, seems to not refresh but simply draw on top of the current one
[11:21] <iptable> Gabriel_, iwconfig without -a, sorry
[11:22] <Gabriel_> iptable: did them both
[11:22] <TJ-> Gabriel: If it is a desktop system, the network config is stored by Network Manager; just open the network connections configuration from the network applet in the task-bar
[11:22] <iptable> Yup
[11:23] <iptable> Gabriel_, did iwconfig show you are connected to a wifi network, did it show wlan0, anything? I can't see your screen...
[11:29] <Guest26836> m having problme in ubtuntu settings
[11:29] <Guest26836> can anyone guide me
[11:30] <bibi234> hello, in a given directory, I'd like to have all the files and folders that will be created by a user A to be owned by a user B, however I'd like to keep the owning group to the user A group, is it possible?
[11:30] <bcvery> !details | Guest26836
[11:31] <Guest26836> having problem in connecting net via bluetooth
[11:32] <smss1995> Guest26836: Search for your bluetooth chipset
[11:33] <Guest26836> there's a setting wd a name KDE in ubuntu, there m unable 2 even connect through cable or USB
[11:33] <Guest26836> finding no way how 2 connect my net in KDE settings
[11:34] <Guest26836> if m taking d name of setting right...?
[11:34] <Guest26836> whereas in other settings m able 2 connect net through USB n cable
[11:34] <TJ-> bibi234: I presume you have another restriction, which is that user B cannot be a member of group A?
[11:35] <zzZZzz-ubuqity> Ben64, bcvery I will try with Transmageddon maybe it will do the trick. Thx. for info
[11:35] <bcvery> zzZZzz-ubuqity, best of luck
[11:36] <bibi234> TJ-: yes they can't be in the same group
[11:36] <smss1995> Guest26836:  Please type completely your words. I don't know whats your choices and for what, but I know if you are having problem in connecting the bluetooth with other things, this must be from your chipset configurations which be available at GOOGLE
[11:36] <TJ-> bibi234: I think you'd need to move into using ACLs
[11:38] <smss1995> Guest26836: So, You have to search for your chipset configurations (you can get technical informations about it through executing this command : $ lspci | grep -i blue), then get it and install it and it will be work. (does NOT matter whats your Desktop Environment(KDE,GNome,etc))
[11:40] <dusf123> i have a link on my desktop, i want to ammend -opengl to the end of the command that runs it but when i look at properties there is no command to edit. how do i create a desktop launcher for wine "~/World of Warcraft 3.3.5a (no install)/Wow.exe" -opengl ?
[11:41] <TJ-> Guest26836: If the bluetooth service is configured to provide PAN (Personal Area Network) you should find a "Bluetooth" adapter option in the Network Connection editor
[11:41] <histo> dusf123: look in your /usr/share/applications/  for some .desktop examples
[11:41] <bibi234> TJ-: I haven't investigated this yet. If I manage to do it on a given folder, will it also work by default for all its subfolders that will be created later? Basically I want 2 users that are not in the same group to do whatever they want in this folder, including subfolders and files created later, but I don't want to put 777 permission.
[11:43] <TJ-> bibi234: I don't think I've ever used that configuration but I think ACL will do the job; I'd suggest doing some experiments on a test-case
[11:43] <dusf123> histo: i am looking at the properties of firefox, how do i create a launcher like it?
[11:43] <histo> dusf123: look in /usr/share/applications/  for firefox.desktop
[11:44] <dusf123> histo: i am looking at it i have the properties window open, that does not tell me how to create something like it
[11:44] <starbuck> hi, is there way to edit a file with vim as root when the file has no write rights whatsoever, like this: -r-xr-xr-x ???
[11:45] <starbuck> i know i could grant the write right with chmod, but maybe there is another way?
[11:45] <bibi234> TJ-: ok thanks I'll check this out
[11:46] <dusf123> i have a link on my desktop, i want to ammend -opengl to the end of the command that runs it but when i look at properties there is no command to edit. how do i create a desktop launcher for wine "~/World of Warcraft/Wow.exe" -opengl ?
[11:46] <histo> dusf123: http://askubuntu.com/questions/142159/desktop-shortcut-to-create-a-new-desktop-shortcut-doesnt-do-anything
[11:46] <histo> dusf123: edit that whatever.desktop file and append -opengl to the exec= section
[11:46] <dusf123> histo: thank you, hopefully that link will contain an answer
[11:46] <histo> dusf123: i've answered several times now.
[11:48] <histo> starbuck: why?
[11:48] <starbuck> because i could? ;)
[11:49] <histo> starbuck: no you can't and won;t
[11:49] <TJ-> dusf123: maybe this page can help, from this bookmark on into the next section: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft#Enabling_OpenGL
[11:49] <auscompgeek> Hmm. My laptop has a Bluetooth adapter, but nothing detects it. `hcitool dev` doesn't list anything. What could I be doing wrong?
[11:50] <menko> hi al
[11:50] <menko> imali nqkoi bg
[11:50] <histo> auscompgeek: is there a module loaded for it?
[11:50] <histo> auscompgeek: pastebin the output of lspci -k
[11:51] <histo> starbuck: what would be the point of making a file read only if you could write to it?
[11:51] <starbuck> histo: well, i can and did it already... with the :wq! inside vim.
[11:51] <auscompgeek> histo: http://ix.io/d6w
[11:51] <histo> starbuck: then it wasn't read only
[11:51] <DJones> !bg | menko (I think this is what you're looking for),
[11:52] <starbuck> histo: it was, or what else do you think is that: -r-xr-xr-x
[11:52] <histo> starbuck: yes if you force
[11:52] <auscompgeek> hmm, that's odd, I can't seem to see any bluetooth adapters in lspci...
[11:52] <histo> starbuck: why do you want to do this though?
[11:53] <histo> auscompgeek: what type of system is this? make and model please
[11:53] <histo> auscompgeek: also check your bios/uefi to make sure bluetooth is enabled
[11:53] <starbuck> histo: because i didn't want to change the rights of the file, just a simple line inside.
[11:55] <histo> starbuck: if you +i the file it wouldn't happen.
[11:55] <auscompgeek> histo: HP Pavilion dv7; can't remember/find a more specific model number
[11:55] <cylonmath> Ben64, well I have problem with 331 too. my xorglog: http://nopaste.info/e790e770f0.html, my dmesg: http://nopaste.info/b5eb8d55d2.html
[11:55] <TJ-> auscompgeek: Are you 100% sure it has a Bluetooth adapter? Have you seen/used it previously?
[11:55] <hateball> auscompgeek: did you check with lsusb?
[11:56] <hateball> that's what most BT devices are
[11:56] <TJ-> auscompgeek: I've seen many model/sub-model differences where despite all the feature lists claiming BT "support" no actual BT adapter is installed... its an optional extra
[11:56] <starbuck> histo: i don't knwo what you mean by +i, but don't worry, i got the right answer elsewhere
[11:57] <histo> starbuck: man chattr
[11:57] <Gabriel_> iptable: iwconfig  output: ESSID: Off/any Power MGMT off
[11:57] <auscompgeek> TJ-: Yes, I was able to use the Bluetooth adapter in my previous Ubuntu install and Windows.
[11:57] <histo> auscompgeek: looks like should be a wifi/bluetooth device
[11:57] <iptable> Gabriel_, look at the laptop carefully. it should have a wifi on/off button. press/switch it
[11:57]  * iptable goes away for a while
[11:58] <Gabriel_> iptable: I did turned it of and on
[11:58] <histo> auscompgeek: rfkill list   is anything blocked?
[11:58] <TJ-> auscompgeek: That's a good sign! If you don't see it with "lsusb" maybe it is hard-disabled by BIOS or hardware (radio) switch ?
[11:58] <auscompgeek> hateball: not in there either.
[11:58] <auscompgeek> It's not listed at all by rfkill.
[11:58] <iptable> Gabriel_, use rfkill to check status and turn off/on as required
[11:59] <iptable> I need to run
[11:59] <auscompgeek> I recall rfkill listed it before I upgraded to trusty.
[11:59] <histo> auscompgeek: check bios
[11:59] <auscompgeek> histo: hmm, will do. brb.
[11:59] <histo> auscompgeek: and any physical switch or button to enable disable it.
[11:59] <auscompgeek> histo: physical switch is enabled, otherwise my wifi would also be off. :)
[12:00] <TJ-> auscompgeek: Can you show us "pastebinit <(lspci -nnvk && lsusb)"
[12:00] <iptable> Gabriel_, alternatively, if that doesn't work, 1. start fomr live CD and check if you get wifi. it may be a broken wifi on the laptop. 2. reboot and use your network manager to reconfigure the network/wifi card and scan for networks. 3. iwscan is a useful tool. 4. check if you get cabled network to compelte the tests
[12:00] <Gabriel_> iptable: I booted with ubuntu 13.10 and got wifi connection
[12:01] <iptable> Gabriel_, cool. in that case, network manager and iwscan. looks like the issue is with ubuntu and changed MAC address of the card
[12:01] <auscompgeek> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7690056/
[12:01] <histo> Gabriel_: which chipset do you have?
[12:01] <Gabriel_> iptable: can I reset them?
[12:02]  * auscompgeek reboots
[12:02] <iptable> histo, quick summary: if worked until he had to move the HDD from one laptop to another. same model, etc. Wifi no longer works on the new laptop with same OS, but works on live CD. Issue is with MAC address remembered by NM or udev of the old laptop.
[12:02] <iptable> histo, if you know where it's saved and how to get rid of that settings, that would be awesome, as I don't :/
[12:02] <iptable> Gabriel_, ^
[12:03] <histo> iptable: why does nm care about the mac changing?
[12:03] <Gabriel_> iptable: that is the best way to sum it up
[12:03] <Gabriel_> iptable: (:
[12:03] <iptable> histo, I don't know? it seems to get confused. so does udev.
[12:03] <histo> huh
[12:03] <TJ-> auscompgeek: to be clear, you've got a Huawei Ascend G300  connected via USB?
[12:03] <iptable> especially since the "unique and persistent network names" got invented
[12:03] <iptable> I need to run
[12:03] <histo> did he try purging and resinstalling networkmanager?
[12:03] <histo> Gabriel_: what version of ubuntu
[12:03] <iptable> histo, not yet. we just managed to established it's the OS, not HW or network
[12:04] <Gabriel_> iptable: thanks mate for everything
[12:04] <Gabriel_> histo: lubuntu 14.04
[12:04] <iptable> Gabriel_, no probs. histo is taking over :) drop me a line once you find the solution. I am curious
[12:04] <Gabriel_> iptable: will do mate
[12:05] <auscompgeek> TJ-: yes. (well, it's actually not a G300, but close enough.)
[12:05] <TJ-> Gabriel: can you show us via pastebinit "/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules" by copying it to another PC, or if the PC has wired connection, using that?
[12:05] <TJ-> auscompgeek: OK ... just ensuring we know what is connected :)
[12:05] <auscompgeek> Turns out BIOS doesn't have any settings to disable bluetooth/wifi.
[12:06] <histo> Gabriel_: i'm trying to find a bug on that. i'm sure someone has filed one.
[12:06] <Gabriel_> histo: Thanks
[12:06] <histo> Gabriel_: can you pastebin your /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[12:06] <ezra-s> is there any way to enable old-style indicators in ubuntu 14.04 with unity?
[12:06] <TJ-> auscompgeek: Really? Well if so that should make things easier.... lets look at the kernel log at boot-time: "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg"
[12:06] <Gabriel_> histo: yes, doing so now
[12:07] <auscompgeek> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7690083/
[12:08] <TJ-> auscompgeek: ouch: "Your BIOS is broken; DMAR reported at address 0!" ... that might lead to a problem later! ... continuing reading
[12:08] <histo> Gabriel_: I would assume you could change the mac in that file and be good to go.
[12:08] <Gabriel_> histo: to what? anything different?
[12:09] <histo> grep '1c:65:9d:0c:38:9c' /etc/udev/rules.d/*
[12:09] <histo> Gabriel_: sorry don't do that.
[12:09] <shogun_> does anybody know why I cannot change the brightness from the settings? happens everytime I disconnect my laptop from the power source. need to restart so I can get the brightness back.
[12:09] <histo> Gabriel_: to the mac of the new hardware
[12:10] <histo> Gabriel_: does ip link   show the new mac?
[12:10] <Gabriel_> histo: it looks the same
[12:11] <histo> Gabriel_: pastebin that file I asked and also the output of.  ip link
[12:11] <shogun_> have anyone tried unity tweaks on 14.04? changing the icons doesent work
[12:11] <Gabriel_> histo:
[12:11] <histo> ?
[12:12] <ezra-s> shogun_, do you have an intel graphics card? I recall reading a problem with intel and ubuntu 14.04
[12:13] <Gabriel_> histo: # PCI device 0x8086:0x4229 (iwl4965) ATTR{address}=="00:1d:e0:4d:3a:b9"
[12:14] <histo> Gabriel_: okay grep "00:1d:e0:4d:3a:b9" /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[12:14] <Gabriel_> histo: it's there
[12:15] <histo> Gabriel_: that's odd.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure udev
[12:16] <Gabriel_> histo: just got an error sudo: can't resolve host name
[12:16] <TJ-> auscompgeek: I can see no indication of a bluetooth adapter. Can you pastebin the output of  "sudo dmidecode -t system | pastebinit"
[12:17] <histo> Gabriel_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure network-manager
[12:18] <auscompgeek> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7690125/
[12:21] <Gabriel_> histo: did it, trying to restart networking
[12:24] <TJ-> auscompgeek: OK, using the NE555PA model reference I found this spec. Is this the *exact* spec of the PC as far as you know it?
[12:24] <TJ-> auscompgeek: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=uk&lc=en&docname=c01586241
[12:24] <histo> Gabriel_: k if not, backup /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules  then edit the file and delete the entries. reboot the machine and netwokr should work.
[12:24] <histo> Gabriel_: here's a page that will provide insight: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/175876/how-do-i-fix-my-vms-network-connection-if-it-seems-to-be-running-ok-from-the-ho
[12:24] <auscompgeek> TJ-: this laptop has dual HDDs and a 2.53 GHz (I think) CPU, so no.
[12:24] <auscompgeek> s/ \(.*\)//
[12:25] <hateball> auscompgeek: running "sudo dmidecode" should show the exact model up top
[12:25] <TJ-> auscompgeek: You've actually used Bluetooth on this PC previously? If so, either the BT module has somehow got disconnected (a knock maybe?) or else it has failed (I've seen that on other laptops, very rarely)
[12:25] <TJ-> hateball: Yes, we've done that
[12:26] <hateball> TJ-: Oh, sorry, I thought there were uncertainties
[12:26] <auscompgeek> TJ-: Yes. I also came to the same conclusion, but I wasn't too sure. Thanks.
[12:27] <TJ-> hateball: Yes, the model in the DMI is one of those country-specific codes that HP doesn't list anyplace
[12:28] <TJ-> auscompgeek: See page 80 of the service guide: http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c02842278.pdf
[12:28] <Gabriel_> histo: thanks mate.
[12:29]  * iptable is back. histo bingo :) that's the one, persistent rules in udev :)
[12:31] <Gabriel_> iptable: please elanorate
[12:31] <Gabriel_> iptable: elaborate...
[12:31] <auscompgeek> TJ-: ah, thanks!
[12:31] <thecha> hi musa
[12:31]  * sveta hands auscompgeek a box of unwritten unit tests on regex
[12:32] <thecha> hi sveta
[12:32] <thecha> hey auscompgeek
[12:32] <sveta> (since you're awesome at those, tests should be awesome too :)
[12:32] <sveta> hi
[12:32] <thecha> hello Gabriel_
[12:32] <Gabriel_> thecha: Hello
[12:32] <thecha> Gabriel_→ sveta→ can i add you to my pidgeon friendslist?
[12:32] <thecha> i don thave any friends
[12:32] <sveta> if you like
[12:32] <thecha> thanks
[12:32] <sveta> i'll sleep but you should find me around this time tomorrow hopefully
[12:32] <Gabriel_> thecha: K
[12:33] <thecha> oh ok
[12:33] <auscompgeek> sveta: oh god.
[12:34] <sveta> "please don't make me a god, it's too little sleep"
[12:34] <auscompgeek> sveta: what could these possibly be for...
[12:34] <sveta> for all the cpan modules that invovle regex and have too few unit tests
[12:34] <sveta> hehe
[12:36] <TJ-> auscompgeek: Have you recently put the DV7 into suspend mode, and then resumed?
[12:37] <auscompgeek> TJ-: Perhaps. Could that cause this issue?
[12:37] <texla> Is this the proper command for zeroing a flash drive (dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc1 bs=512 count=1)
[12:37] <iptable> Gabriel_, udev has persistent rules which get auto-updated when network cards get inserted. when you swap one card for another, it confuses things, as wlan0 is now another MAC that persistent rules don't see :/
[12:38] <TJ-> auscompgeek: I've just found an issue caused by suspend for one of the DV7 sub-models, but there are so many hardware variations under that model name it's hard to know. It'd be a simple test to check it though. power off to cold, remove battery (added insurance), then reboot
[12:38] <iptable> Gabriel_, therefore remove (move away from /etc/udev location) the persistent rules file and all show get recreated and work
[12:38] <Gabriel_> iptable: can I resolve this?
[12:38] <iptable> Gabriel_, see my lasts statement just above yours ^
[12:38] <iptable> Gabriel_, of course, reboot fully once the file is moved out of the way
[12:38] <Gabriel_> iptable: will try it now (:
[12:40] <dusf123> histo: i set up the launcher, thanks
[12:40] <dusf123> !intel
[12:40] <histo> dusf123: what are you looking for?
[12:41] <histo> texla: no
[12:41] <histo> texla: that would only write zeros to the first 512 bytes of the first partition on sdc
[12:41] <texla> Is this the proper command for zeroing a flash drive (dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc1 bs=512 count=1)
[12:41] <auscompgeek> TJ-: hmm. might try that later then. getting bluetooth isn't a priority right now, although sleep is.
[12:41] <histo> texla: ^^
[12:42] <texla> histo, this is a  gb unit
[12:42] <texla> 8
[12:42] <histo> texla: if sdc is your flash drive the proper command would be something like dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=64K
[12:42] <histo> texla: what?
[12:43] <histo> texla: my command would destroy all data on the drive. You'd have to re-partition to use it again.
[12:43] <texla> histo, his is an 8gb flash drive
[12:43] <histo> texla: okay.
[12:43] <Gabriel_> iptable: No luck
[12:43] <iptable> Gabriel_, damn, try the sudo dpkg-reconfigure udev
[12:44] <iptable> Gabriel_, and sudo dpkg-reconfigure network-manager
[12:44] <iptable> Gabriel_, now tha the persistance file is gone :)
[12:44] <histo> texla: let me explain the command.. dd is the command if=/dev/zero that tells dd to use /dev/zero as the input.  of=/dev/sdc  that tells dd the output file is /dev/sdc.  bs=64K  that tells dd to use a block size of 64K  to speed the process up.
[12:44] <Gabriel_> iptable: should I remove the persistance file again before doing so?
[12:45] <histo> Gabriel_: it should have remapped the file on boot. double check that it did. If not you may have to add an entry for your macs if reconfigure doesn't.
[12:45] <texla> histo, Okay I got that now thanks
[12:45] <iptable> Gabriel_, no
[12:45] <iptable> Gabriel_, it remapped on boot, which is good now
[12:46] <riply> hi guys, I am looking to chat to someone about hardware vs software raid for a new server I am building up. Any specific warnings on the Ubuntu software RAID?
[12:46] <histo> texla: so you were telling it to write a block size of 512  but only for a count of 1, meaning only the first 512 bytes of sdc1 would get overwritten.
[12:46] <Gabriel_> iptable: rebooting
[12:47] <histo> texla: you could also do something like      yes 'histo rocks' | dd of=/dev/sdc
[12:47] <iptable> riply, yes, it's better than HW raid if you don't have like-for-like HW raid replacement contract
[12:48] <Gabriel_> iptable: no go again
[12:48] <Gabriel_> iptable: ):
[12:48] <texla> histo, Got the first command from wikki ???
[12:48] <iptable> riply, use either good-ol' dmraid, or btrfs with raid1
[12:48] <iptable> Gabriel_, so, when you open network manager, does it show you a list of SSIDs?
[12:48] <iptable> i.e. a list of wireless networks?
[12:49] <histo> texla: You were probably reading about erasing the boot sector
[12:49] <histo> Gabriel_: what version of ubuntu is this?
[12:49] <Gabriel_> histo: lubuntu 14.04
[12:50] <iptable> texla, you want to 0 the whole drive, erase partition table, erase boot sector or delete data in a way it can never be recovered? what is the purpose of the excercise
[12:50] <Gabriel_> histo: no network-manager, but network-admin
[12:50] <iptable> oh
[12:50] <histo> weren't they supposed to stop using persistent names in 14.04?
[12:50] <iptable> it's still network manager in the backend
[12:50] <TJ-> auscompgeek: You know that DMAR error/kernel panic I referred to? Apparently that knocks out some devices that use IOMMU, which could account for the missing BT device
[12:50]  * histo doesn't use ubuntu
[12:50] <iptable> histo, dunno. I know they broke it more :/
[12:51] <iptable> histo, my network cards appear as em1, p1p1 and p1p2, which is expected. but the p1p2 sometimes is renamed to `rename`, or `error`, or `noname` or `eth99`
[12:51] <iptable> go figure
[12:51] <SonikkuAmerica> (( jcastro: With all due respect, sir, I think SASL could help with the changing host message. ))
[12:51] <histo> Gabriel_: does iwlist scan   have any output?
[12:51] <jcastro> hmmm?
[12:51] <iptable> Gabriel_, and on top of iwlist, does the network admin show a list of wireless networks?
[12:52] <Jonii_> Hello. My I have Asus UX31E ultrabook with Ubuntu on it. For some reason whenever I drop below 2h remaining on battery, the computer will suddenly shut down
[12:52] <SonikkuAmerica> jcastro: Host changes are a bit noisy, authenticating via SASL instead of NickServ with that cloak helps.
[12:52] <SonikkuAmerica> That is all
[12:52] <TJ-> auscompgeek: A simple workaround you can test is to add this to the kernel's command line "iommu=soft", via "/etc/default/grub" e.g: "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="iommu=soft"  " and then doing "sudo update-grub" and a reboot
[12:52] <riply> iptable, thanks man! When you say like for like raid contract, what do you mean?
[12:52] <Jonii_> Is there anything I can do about this? Having 2h less battery time than I'm supposed to really sucks
[12:52] <riply> iptable, this' a box I am going to admin, so no contratct with anyone :)
[12:53] <jcastro> SonikkuAmerica, oh cool, where are the instructions for that?
[12:53] <Jonii_> (the problem was present in both 14.04 and 12.04)
[12:53] <texla> iptable, I want a clean disc to install an o/s
[12:53] <Gabriel_> iptable: iwlist scan wlan0 no scan resaults
[12:53] <histo> Jonii_: battery percentage is probably off
[12:53] <jcastro> SonikkuAmerica, found it, like this? https://freenode.net/sasl/sasl-xchat.shtml
[12:53] <iptable> riply, it is well known that vendor A RAID might not work (can probably won't) with vendor B RAID. There is no one single RAID implementaiton specification everyone would follow
[12:53] <histo> Jonii_: clarification: reporting on actual power left is probably off.
[12:53] <TJ-> histo: There's a switch from persistent interface naming to biosdevname in the server variant but not the desktop variant
[12:54] <histo> ahh
[12:54] <histo> good
[12:54] <iptable> riply, and quite a few times model A doesn't work with model B from the same vendor. so unless you can get the smae raid card in X years when tyhis one fails, use softwar raid
[12:54] <SonikkuAmerica> jcastro: If you use XChat that would be the way to do it
[12:54] <Jonii_> histo: I don't think so. Numbers it reports seem fine, and Ubuntu seems to anyway consume the battery 40% faster than Windows
[12:54] <histo> Gabriel_: rfkill list
[12:54] <iptable> texla, is that all?
[12:54] <TJ-> histo: Although *some* desktop-only users are showing up with biosdevname installed... not sure why that is as yet
[12:54] <histo> Gabriel_: is it blocked?
[12:54] <cybrhuman> I am trying to set up a firewall on my machine to sanitize my browsing, but I have some problems finding a suitable tool.
[12:54] <iptable> texla, start a partitioning tool, like parted/fdisk/gdisk/gparted and remove all partitions
[12:55] <iptable> texla, problem solved
[12:55] <histo> TJ-: interesting..
[12:55] <riply> iptable, thanks man - that makes sense. So 3 disks and raid 1?
[12:55] <SonikkuAmerica> jcastro: Some clients, e.g. Quassel, have it built in
[12:55] <iptable> riply, if you got 3 disks, dmraid raid5 makes more sense
[12:55] <histo> cybrhuman: how do you plan on a firewall sanitizing?
[12:55] <texla> iptable, Yes that is my next step to remove and redo the partitions
[12:55] <Gabriel_> iptable: iwlist scan got me a different mac address.
[12:56] <iptable> riply, or even raid4. for btrfs, it will have to be a parity disk count and raid1+0, raid5 btrfs is still experimental
[12:56] <Jonii_> histo: so either Ubuntu is actually using about 3x the power that Windows does, or there is something else happening here. Also, it's always 2h, it's not about Wh remaining on the battery. I can get the Wh on the battery to go as low as I want as long as the computer reports more than 2h remaining
[12:56] <riply> iptable, I don't have any disks at the moment - need to order them. So I am in the planning phase. I shall google how to setup dmraid on ubuntu and check it out :)
[12:56] <Gabriel_> iptable: updated the /etc/udev/rules...
[12:56] <histo> cybrhuman: firefox + adblock plus + noscript  + https everywhere    would work well.
[12:56] <iptable> texla, that will clean drive and remove all data. you don't need dd for that
[12:57] <iptable> Gabriel_, iwlist scan gives you MAC of the wireless APs, not your card
[12:57] <histo> Jonii_: I would search for a bug for your model of hardware
[12:57] <texla> iptable, Okay thanks
[12:57] <Jonii_> So if I start doing really high demand processor-intensive calculations I can get almost fresh battery to crash and burn
[12:57] <cybrhuman> histo: the intention was to keep one browser from contacting facebook and one from contacting anything else.
[12:57] <histo> cybrhuman: ahh
[12:58] <Jonii_> But I can also use the battery for about 5 or 6 hours if I just carefully avoid doing stuff that might momentarily spike power consumption
[12:58] <histo> cybrhuman: http://www.opendns.com/
[12:58] <abhie2e> hi. how to launch the java plugin control panel in 14.04?
[12:58] <abhie2e> i installed java7
[12:58] <Jonii_> But if I by accident increase screen brightness or whatever like that, then the computer can crash :p
[12:58] <iptable> cybrhuman, iptables / ufw / nftables and a range of GUI tools to administer that. that's for firewall. for web browsing filtering, check out squid proxy and squidGuard and their GUIs
[12:58] <abhie2e> and cant launch the java control panel
[12:58] <riply> iptable, experimental doesn't sound good ;)
[12:59] <iptable> riply, yes, as stated, don't use btrfs raid5. for raid5, you would have to use standard software dmraid
[12:59] <Jonii_> histo: what part of hardware?
[12:59] <iptable> riply, dmraid raid5 is stable as hell
[12:59] <dusf123> i have read i can install nvidia drivers for my intel hd graphics 4000 to use, all the guides i have followed show the driver available in additional drivers but they are not for me, probably because i do not have an nvidia card
[12:59] <histo> Jonii_: laptop model or make.  maybe check askubuntu.com also
[12:59] <cybrhuman> iptable: adding rules to iptables seems to do nothing at all, browser still accesses anything,
[12:59] <dusf123> how can i install the nvidia driver for intel hd graphics to use?
[13:00] <histo> dusf123: your intel card would use intel drivers
[13:00] <iceroot> dusf123: you are talking about optimus where you have an intel and nvidia card?
[13:00] <TJ-> Jonii_: Have you added the kernel parameter "i915.i915_enable_rc6=1" ?
[13:00] <iptable> dusf123, you would need a hybrid nvidia/intel to use nvidia driver
[13:00] <iptable> cybrhuman, then ou are not adding the rules correctly
[13:00] <iptable> cybrhuman, adding rules correctly to iptables works very well indeed
[13:01] <riply> iptable, stable as hell is sounding a LOT better :)
[13:01] <riply> doing some googling now
[13:01] <TJ-> Jonii_: also, see this link for run-time testing of that option: http://askubuntu.com/questions/108289/minimizing-power-consumption-of-laptop-with-intel-graphics
[13:01] <Gabriel_> iptable: working now (: Thanks for everything
[13:01] <cybrhuman> iptable: so they are added on the fly? I tried to find that piece of info.
[13:01] <iptable> dusf123, if you don'thave hybrid graphics, you cannot use nvidia driver
[13:01] <iptable> Gabriel_, no worries
[13:02] <Gabriel_> iptable: life saver :)
[13:02] <iptable> cybrhuman, yes. you add them on the fly
[13:02] <histo> Gabriel_: what was the issue?
[13:02] <dusf123> histo, iceroot, iptable: sorry, it didn't make sense to me i could use an nvidia driver, just on the guide i was following it seemed to read that way
[13:02] <dusf123> do you think i would achive better graphics installing drivers other than came with 14.04
[13:02] <cybrhuman> histo: can't be solved on dns level I think. I think I need to do it locally since the computer will still access both facebook and the rest of the web, just splitting it between browsers.
[13:02] <dusf123> ?
[13:02] <Gabriel_> histo: I updated the MAC address and rebooted
[13:03] <histo> dusf123: what make and model of laptop are you using?
[13:03] <histo> cybrhuman: surely it could be resolved on dns level.  But either way will work.
[13:03] <dusf123> histo: zenbook ux32a, i5-3317u, intel hd graphics 4000 - no other graphics card
[13:03] <histo> cybrhuman: that's the whole point of opendns
[13:04] <iptable> cybrhuman, can the brwoser be started as 2 different users?
[13:04] <histo> dusf123: then no the drives from default install are fine.
[13:04] <iptable> cybrhuman, as in, the facebook one as user A and the other one as user B
[13:04] <histo> dusf123: Intel provides code for a majority of their stuff and works with open source community.
[13:04] <cybrhuman> iptable: yes, that is the plan, so a per user policy and X-forwarding was my plan
[13:04] <Randy_O> hello, looking for some help: my apt-get and wget no longer work on my server after I removed squid-deb-proxy, any ideas what's causing this? all other computers in the house can update just fine.
[13:05] <iptable> cybrhuman, you can use iptables  with -m owner --uid-ownder
[13:05] <iptable> cybrhuman, let me get the correct syntax
[13:06] <cybrhuman> histo: but the machine will ask for facebook and should get the correct info, just different users/browsers.
[13:06] <Jonii_> TJ-: I'm unsure, how do you add these kernel option thingies?
[13:06] <nick07> if I type "sudo smbpasswd -a mycomputername" it answers with this : [sudo] password for vaio:  When run by root:     smbpasswd [options] [username] otherwise:     smbpasswd [options]
[13:06] <TJ-> cybrhuman: You could configure a browser profile which points to a local proxy server, and then restrict access to sites in the proxy server.
[13:06] <iptable> cybrhuman, squid and squidguard (http proxy) would be a *much* better solution
[13:06] <histo> Jonii_: edit your /etc/default/grub   file and sudo update-grub
[13:06] <nick07> It should answer with asking password twice.. but is does not
[13:07] <TJ-> Jonii_: See for example https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters
[13:07] <dusf123> histo: i installed intel-linux-graphics-installer from intel.com through the ubuntu software centre and it upgraded some packages and installed new ones, i am going to reboot to see if there is a difference in fps
[13:07] <histo> nick07: so after you enter your sudo password you don't get asked for smbpasswd?
[13:07] <iptable> cybrhuman, but since you insist: iptables, 3 rules. rule 1: for non-facebook user block facebook IP, 2. for facebook-only user block everything, 3. for facebook-only user allow facebook
[13:07] <iptable> cybrhuman, you need to get the order right, as the first rule to match the trigger will be used!
[13:07] <iptable> cybrhuman, iptables -I OUTPUT -p tcp -m owner --uid-owner UID_OF_FACEBOOK_USER --dport 80 -j DROP
[13:08] <riply> iptable, reading up on dmraid with raid 5 on ubuntu has brought me to something called fakeraid.. do you have any links which you could 'vouch for' as good reading material? People on forums all seem to have their own bias opinions etc and really I am looking for the most robust RAID option. This server is going to be used as a backup server, looking after data from other webservers.. so it's somewhat the last mile in the backups process
[13:08] <riply>  if other servers lose data / need recoveries done.
[13:08] <iptable> cybrhuman, same rule for port 443 for HTTPS. Then another 2 for both ports but with --destination IP_OF_FACEBOOK -j ACCEPT
[13:08] <histo> nick07: also why are you trying to run it with sudo?
[13:08] <iptable> cybrhuman, that's for facebook-only user. for non-facebook user, only do the DROP with destination of facebook IP.
[13:09] <iptable> riply, if you don't have a working spare raid card, do not use HW raid
[13:09] <nick07> because it the first try without sude it did the same
[13:09] <cybrhuman> iptable: I do not insist on iptables, it was just my first thought. and since both you and TJ- suggest a squid solution I guess that is the better choice?
[13:09] <nick07> *sudo
[13:09] <iptable> riply, use software raid. fake raid is basically very cheap hardware raid which is ... well ... basically software raid on a chip. not really proper HW raid with it's own processor etc
[13:10] <histo> nick07: i'm having trouble following you. Can you rephrase your question?
[13:10] <riply> iptable, I do not have a replacement hardware raid controller, so I am happy to go the software route.
[13:10] <nick07> ok
[13:10] <iptable> cybrhuman, definitely. squid is a web proxy. squidguard is a filtering addon/engine for squid. you can filter per user and website, as opposed to IPs etc
[13:10] <riply> iptable, I now just need to find a decent tutorial on setting it up, on a fresh installation. Are some OS' better at it than others, or is ubuntu suitable?
[13:11] <nick07> I type in: smbpasswd -a myusername. I dont get asked to type in a password twice, but I get this :
[13:11] <nick07> [sudo] password for vaio:  When run by root:     smbpasswd [options] [username] otherwise:     smbpasswd [options]
[13:11] <iptable> nick07, run this: sudo smbpasswd USERNAME
[13:11] <iptable> nick07, where USERNAME is the username you want the password to generate for
[13:11] <nick07> ok let me try
[13:12] <bsdbandit> good morning all
[13:12] <iptable> nick07, you do need to type your user password for sudo to work btw. so password for vaio is questions for you to confirm the password your logged in with for sudo to work
[13:12] <iptable> nick07, so first enter your user password to make sudo do it's magic
[13:12] <Jonii_> TJ-: histo could you please see this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/937378 <- Is this related to my problem?
[13:12] <nick07> Failed to find entry for user vaio
[13:13] <bsdbandit> i have 2 nics 1 is using a private network im trying to configue snmp to only listen for snmp connections from the private network is there a way to do this in the snmpd.conf file ?
[13:13] <iptable> nick07, sudo ls
[13:13] <iptable> nick07, does that accept your sudo password?
[13:13] <nick07> yes
[13:14] <iptable> nick07, in that case you first need to create smb user called vaio before you smbpasswd it
[13:14] <nick07> I did this thing before on other systems, but I just installed the new 14.04
[13:14] <histo> nick07: what version of samba are you uisng?
[13:14] <nick07> can i check it the fast way
[13:15] <histo> !info samba
[13:15] <iptable> nick07, sudo smbpasswd -a vaio
[13:15] <iptable> nick07, that should work now
[13:15] <Jonii_> Also, how do I know if Rc6 is enabled or not on my UX31E?
[13:15] <histo> samba-tool user add username
[13:15] <TJ-> Jonii_: Yes, it looks likely. You're on 14.04 now, is that correct?
[13:15] <Jonii_> TJ-: yes
[13:16] <TJ-> Jonii_: Try "cat /sys/module/i915/parameters/i915_enable_rc6"
[13:16] <nick07> iptable,what did you do? Why is it working now, and how did you know?
[13:16] <cybrhuman> iptable: I find all sorts of information on setting up squid, but I can't find mention of how the send everything through squid, expected some hint about editing /etc/network/ files.
[13:16] <iptable> nick07, it was always working. you got your sudo password prompt confused with smbpasswd prompt
[13:17] <histo> nick07: if you use smbpasswd a local user needs to exist. If you use samba-tool you don't need a local account to add a user to the domain
[13:17] <iptable> cybrhuman, look for "transparent proxy".
[13:17] <TJ-> cybrhuman: You'll probably need to configure squid (and netfilters via iptables) as a transparent proxy
[13:17] <histo> nick07: s/domain/Active Directory/
[13:17] <iptable> cybrhuman, that's the phrase you want. ;)
[13:17] <nick07> strange because I did not change anything yet
[13:17] <cybrhuman> TJ-, iptable: thanks
[13:17] <bnutzer> hello. i installed kde (kubuntu-desktop) on 14.04. many of the programs are missing their menus, even on new users with untouched settings
[13:17] <iptable> nick07, no, but you did type in your sudo password when doing sudo ls. and sudo caches it for 5 minutes
[13:18] <Jonii_> TJ-: I get "Permission denied" when trying that
[13:18] <nick07> And I tried sudo before also, like my first question liek on 15:06
[13:18] <Jonii_> TJ-: I figure I could try sudo cat /sys... Should I do that?
[13:18] <TJ-> Jonii_: Surprising, but use root privileges then: "sudo cat /sys/module/i915/parameters/i915_enable_rc6"
[13:18] <Jonii_> TJ-: -1
[13:19] <nick07> but ok, It accepted it, so that is solved
[13:19] <Jonii_> What does -1 mean. I thought it was 0 or 1
[13:19] <Jonii_> Enabled or not enabled
[13:19] <nick07> thanks
[13:19] <TJ-> Jonii_: Hmmm, let me research!
[13:20] <iptable> nick07, as stated, you confused one password prompt with the other. son't worry, just pay attention which prompt it is and answer password accordingly
[13:21] <nick07> I understand what you mean
[13:21] <TJ-> Jonii_: Try "cat /sys/module/i915/parameters/enable_rc6"
[13:21] <TJ-> Jonii_: As I don't have an i915 here I can't check what is in the sysfs tree
[13:21] <Jonii_> TJ-: no such file or directory
[13:22] <histo> Jonii_: lsmod | grep i915
[13:22] <bnutzer> any clue about the missing menu bars in kubuntu-desktop?
[13:23] <TJ-> Jonii_: hang on then
[13:23] <Jonii_> histo: i915, i2c_algo_bit, drm_kms_helper, drm, video
[13:23] <iptable> bnutzer, download and install kubuntu-desktop ISO, otherwise ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop packages have conflicting themes installed and used
[13:24] <nick07> still strange that it prompted  -> smbpasswd [options] [username] otherwise:     smbpasswd [options] after I typed i my admin password and not asked to type in my new samba pass
[13:24] <TJ-> Jonii_: The source-code shows the default "drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_params.c:36:  .enable_rc6 = -1" so that's the default you see
[13:24] <iptable> nick07, don't know. it works :)
[13:24] <bnutzer> iptable: ah, so the problem is that i originally installed ubuntu-desktop?
[13:24] <nick07> :D
[13:24] <iptable> bnutzer, about 99% sure that this i the case, yes.
[13:24] <nick07> thanks iptable
[13:25] <bnutzer> iptable: thank you very much
[13:25] <iptable> nick07, no problem
[13:25] <iptable> bnutzer, no probs
[13:25] <Jonii_> TJ-: okay, i'm not really seeing the implications of this. My understanding was that rc6 being enabled caused the computer to crash. Is this correct
[13:25] <TJ-> Jonii_: try "modinfo i915" that should list the params available and their meanings, amonst other things
[13:26] <TJ-> Jonii_: I was looking at the power-usage. RC6 is a lower-power sleep state which (some) users claim dramatically improves battery life. That is likely separate to the sudden-shutdown syndrome
[13:27] <Jonii_> TJ-: but didn't the bug report claim that on UX31E it caused "hard shutdowns" or something? :3
[13:28] <TJ-> Jonii_: Before the patch to fix it, but that should have been in the kernel since 2012 from what the bug report says
[13:29] <bnutzer> iptable: does kubuntu also offer something for making the desktop settings global? the default settings use a software rasterizer :(
[13:29] <aakraar> Hello. How do I run a .jnlp file? I think it's a java web app
[13:30] <iptable> bnutzer, that I do not know. I avoid KDE, never had a "working" experience with it.
[13:30] <bnutzer> iptable: ok
[13:30] <histo> aakraar: maybe java somefile.jnlp   ???
[13:32] <Sharcho> I've made some edits to a metacity theme file (metacity-theme-3.xml), and now it's not loading. Is there a way I can check where's the error in the file?
[13:32] <aakraar> histo: "Could not find or load main class"
[13:32] <bnutzer> brb. reboot
[13:34] <TJ-> Jonii_: checking that patch it's been in mainline Linux since: "$ git describe --contains a390a37 >> v3.2.6~43"
[13:35] <dusf123> i am trying to install this app, but when i click download it asks me what to open it with - where i nthe filesystem is the ubuntu software centre so i can point it at the app?
[13:35] <dusf123> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/saucy/indicator-cpufreq/
[13:35] <Jonii_> :(
[13:36] <smss1995> dusf123: whats your downloaded app extension?
[13:36] <Jonii_> Maybe I'll just add those power saving features linked earlier...
[13:36] <dusf123> smss1995: apt://
[13:36] <aakraar> histo: The docs say i need `javaws` which is part of `icedtea`, but I have that installed.
[13:36] <dusf123> sorry, it has no ext
[13:37] <dusf123> smss1995: it's a link to apt://indicator-cpufreq
[13:37] <Daghdha> Hi does ubuntu have abuilt in proxy? (Not a client, but the proxy service for other clients)
[13:38] <dusf123> smss1995: got it with sudo apt-get
[13:38] <dusf123> thanks
[13:38] <smss1995> dusf123: ;)
[13:39] <aakraar> Daghdha: It does, but I don't know what it's called.
[13:40] <Daghdha> i am not admin on the machine so i am gonna have to compile it i think
[13:40] <Daghdha> squid?
[13:40] <Daghdha> aakraar?
[13:41] <steve__> anyone got any good suggestions for renaming tags on mp3 files?
[13:41] <TJ-> Jonii_: have you used the ubuntu wiki recommendations, there's mention of the sudden shutdown and a workaround, there: "However, Zenbboks experience sudden shutdowns with RC6 on and Intel IOMMU off. The most stable configuration is to enable semaphores and turn off VTd in BIOS, see above" See  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AsusZenbook
[13:42] <cybrhuman> iptable: I try to understand what squid would do in this setup, it looks on packets from the outside, not knowing anything about users as far as I can see, and it will just let stuff through without doing anything at all?
[13:42] <aakraar> Daghdha: If you aer bulding from source you can use anyone you want. Squid is in the repos.
[13:43] <iptable> cybrhuman, you need to configure it...
[13:43] <TJ-> steve__: the package "libid3-tools" has several utilities to help with that
[13:43] <iptable> cybrhuman, squid + squidguard as well is what I said too. it supports user-based proxy configuration
[13:43] <Daghdha> aakraar i just want a simple one i can run from commandline
[13:44] <Daghdha> maybe i better ask admin 1st
[13:47] <dusf123> when i run indicator-cpufreq from the command line it opens in the opt panel beside the wifi etc, how can i make this always be running there?
[13:47] <dusf123> that is, at startup and throughout each session?
[13:49] <`nik`> i have an issue with sound -- i can sudo aplay a file as root and it works, but as my user it doesnt work. and i am already a member of the "audio" group!
[13:52] <Jonii_> TJ-: thank you
[13:52] <TJ-> `nik` were you here a few days ago with the same issue? If not, then you'll most likely need to change the default sound device in sound settings - it's probably defaulted to an HDMI audio device which isn't hooked up
[13:52] <`nik`> TJ-: I wasn't here a few days ago. thanks for the tip.
[13:53] <Jonii_> I'm going to test how stable this system will be now, but since I have full battery it hopefully is going to take many hours to confirm that i'm now a proud owner of a stable system!
[13:54] <TJ-> `nik` If this shows a device name with "hdmi" in it, that'd be the explanation: "pacmd list | grep 'Default sink name'"
[13:57] <Erealz> my network manager isnt working correctly it not listing wireless access point however is connected to one. when i right click it say device not managed is there a fix or what?
[13:57] <cyborgcygnus> Seriously, where is the news on Ubuntu for mobiles & touch pads/tablets? There hasn't really been anything that recent that reveals release dates for devices & or images for current existing devices.
[13:58] <Pici> cyborgcygnus: #ubuntu-touch should have up to date info.
[13:59] <cyborgcygnus> Pici, cheers. Didn't know that channel even existed.
[14:02] <Erealz> can some one help me troubleshoot network manager
[14:03] <root__> hello
[14:03] <root__> test ok
[14:07] <dohzer> I have installed the Eclipse IDE manually (not using apt-get) to /opt/eclipse. If I use the search button at the top of the launcher menu to search for "eclipse" it finds the executable. Clicking "open" doesn't launch it, but if I use "Show in Folder" and double click the executable, it runs. Any reason it won't "open"?
[14:09] <thebrush> hid, is there a X.400 mail server for ubuntu? thanks
[14:11] <spandel_> Hi, everybody! I am having HDMI issues on Ubuntu 14.04
[14:11] <spandel_> when running "detect displays" from the gui, it finds the TV and everything, but the tv doesn't react
[14:12] <spandel_> have tried the same thing from a different computer running windows 7 where it works fine
[14:13] <spandel_> Anybody got any leads?
[14:14] <wheatthin> spandel_, does it not react because of the default resolution?
[14:15] <spandel_> wheatthin: I am not sure what the problem is, but it doesn't help if i change the resolution for the TV from the gui
[14:16] <wheatthin> and you have the tv on the right rca output?
[14:16] <wheatthin> or hdmi
[14:16] <wheatthin> input*
[14:16] <adac> Guys, is this also available as a package with apt? http://pencil.evolus.vn/Downloads.html
[14:17] <spandel_> wheatthin, yes
[14:17] <wheatthin> adac, Ummm you can check for yourself    sudo apt-cache search <appname>     without the brackets
[14:19] <spandel_> actually, i can't even select the correct input unless i plug in something else in that input first
[14:19] <spandel_> it just says "not available"
[14:19] <adac> wheatthin, just found out that there is a firefox extension
[14:19] <spandel_> as if nothing was plugged in at all
[14:19] <adac> I'll use that one
[14:19] <adac> :)
[14:20] <Fuchs> adac: not in the official repositories, no
[14:20] <adac> Someone should add it Fuchs :)
[14:20] <Fuchs> adac: so you either download the .deb and use dpkg, or you look if there is a ppa. I'd do the former.
[14:20] <Fuchs> adac: report it.
[14:20] <Fuchs> (on launchpad, not here)
[14:20] <adac> ok
[14:20] <spandel_> I would suspect the cable or the TV if it hadn't worked perfect with the other laptop and windows
[14:22] <TJ-> spandel_: "other laptop" - presumably not the identical model? Differing GPUs will handle things differently, also, some TVs have broken EDID which Windows may have .inf files to enforce correct modelines for, which Linux doesn't have access to
[14:23] <spandel_> TJ-: I see. No the laptop that is working is an older model of a different brand
[14:23] <RLW980> Hello there!
[14:23] <george11> Hello, I have an odd permissions issue on my recent Ubuntu instalation. I think it stems from me copying a user profile from my previous system. Anyway the problem is, that when ever I mount physical media, e.g. usb drive or cd, it is mounted as root. I don't have permission to access. The only way I can get to it is with sudo
[14:23] <RLW980> How to I mount a USB using "Terminal"?
[14:24] <spandel_> TJ-: What can i do to find the issue, and get around it?
[14:24] <spandel_> It is quite an old TV as well
[14:24] <spandel_> maybe from 2007
[14:27] <TJ-> spandel_: first, check what the drivers 'see' with the TV connected, by inspecting the X server log-file "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[14:27] <Lorcatar> Who creates the man pages? The developer?
[14:28] <stpere> hi RLW980, one way to do it, is by checking which device is assigned to your USB media storage using the dmesg command
[14:28] <TJ-> spandel_: If that shows errors or warnings try to determine if they are the cause, and if so, fix them. Also, look at the modelines (if any) reported by the TV device, and compare those with the TV's specifications, and if possible compare with the modelines that Windows sees/knows about
[14:28] <RLW980> stpere: Which is?
[14:28] <stpere> you will see a message related to USB storage, including some information regarding /dev/sd(something)
[14:29] <spandel_> TJ-: how do i find the modelines?
[14:29] <litropy> I'm loking for a guide as to how to install a fuly functional apache webserver, with PHP+mySQL+cPanel. Can someone please point me in the right direction?
[14:29] <stpere> RLW980: once you know which device has been assigned to your USB device, you can call the mount command, the syntax is mount /dev/sd(something) /mnt/mymountpoint
[14:30] <stpere> the /mnt/mymountpoint is an empty directory where your USB key content will appear once mounted
[14:30] <stpere> and replace of course /dev/sd(something) by the device name that was assigned and you found in the dmesg output
[14:31] <stpere> for example, it might be moutn /dev/sdb /mnt/usbkey
[14:31] <RLW980> stpere: OK!
[14:31] <RLW980> stpere: thanks
[14:32] <TJ-> spandel_: this article may help you http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Modeline_Database
[14:34] <RLW980> stpere: how do I install grub-install on to my USB
[14:35] <Church> TJ: why is such needed if there is cvt utility around?
[14:36] <spandel_> TJ-: will check out the article
[14:38] <stpere> RLW980: hmm, are you trying to make a USB live key?
[14:39] <RLW980> stpere: Yes, so how do I do it do you now?
[14:39] <RLW980> *Know?
[14:39] <stpere> I never done it manually honestly, but here is an article that shows you how : http://www.pendrivelinux.com/install-grub2-on-usb-from-ubuntu-linux/
[14:41] <RLW980> stpere: sudo grub-install /dev/sdc1 Installing for i386-pc platform. grub-install: warning: Filesystem `fat' doesn't support embedding. grub-install: error: embedding is not possible, but this is required for cross-disk install.
[14:41] <RLW980> stpere: thats the error im getting see
[14:42] <TJ-> RLW980: You don't install GRUB to the file-system partition, but to the device ("sdc" not "sdc1")
[14:42] <RLW980> TJ-: But I need to?
[14:42] <TJ-> RLW980: why?
[14:42] <RLW980> TJ-: Nothing to do with you Tyler ;)
[14:43] <TJ-> RLW980: If you install GRUB into a partition the device won't boot
[14:45] <RLW980> TJ-: fine then how do i install it onto an usb then
[14:45] <stpere> just remove the 1
[14:45] <stpere> /dev/sdc
[14:45] <stpere> basically, sdc1 is first partition on sdc
[14:46] <TJ-> RLW980: "grub-install <device>" installs the boot-sector to the device's MBR (sector 0), core image to slack sectors (usually sectors 1-2047), and the modules and configuration to the "/boot/" file-system
[14:46] <RLW980> stpere: thanks
[14:48] <RLW980> I've did it now, so I shall see you later?
[14:52] <philinux> TJ-;~ I have grub installed to a partition for dual booting. works fine
[14:52] <TJ-> philinux: which *bit* of grub?
[14:53] <philinux> TJ-;~ as in grub-install from the installer to say sda7
[14:53] <TJ-> philinux: but the file-system isn't FAT is it?
[14:54] <philinux> TJ-;~ scroll back not worky right here was it a usb stick?
[14:54] <TJ-> philinux: Yes, and GRUB complained about the FAT file-system
[14:55] <Fuchs> *sigh*   is there a sane way to disable ~/.cache/upstart/logs/*      (to replace .xsession errors and, if an application misbehaves, fill 80 GB within a couple of minutes)
[14:56] <Fuchs> I'm basically running into  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/1284164  << this, and even though it technically is the problem of the application spamming logs: it's not fun to have one's harddisk filled within minutes
[14:58] <TJ-> Fuchs: add settings to "$HOME/.config/upstart/" maybe?
[14:58] <Fuchs> TJ-: any idea what settings, or where that would be documented?
[14:58] <Fuchs> so far I didn't find anything, but maybe I am looking in the wrong place(s)
[15:00] <[[thufir]]> if I install Linux to the second partition, after XP, GRUB should figure out all the dual booting, correct?  I've not done much dual booting.
[15:00] <phelix> Is it possible to get the newest version of flash installed? Did flash stop supporting linux?
[15:02] <Voyager82> Hi, I have one question. I don't know if you can  help me. I was thinking about installing Iceweasel, on a PC where I have installed Mozilla. I've tried "sudo apt-get install iceweasel", but the OS said that there was already a firefox package installed, and refused to go on. Do you know what should I do to install iceweasel, without removing Mozilla firefox. I don't want to spend all that time installing Javascri
[15:02] <Voyager82> pt again. :)
[15:02] <TJ-> Fuchs: The per-session jobs are in "usr/share/upstart/sessions/" .. and I'd think you can add additional ".override" files in the user config dir to disable logging
[15:04] <Fuchs> TJ-: yeah, I found these (the former), but not really an option in there to disable logging
[15:04] <kyra> hola
[15:04] <melanie> fea
[15:04] <kyra> chupalaa gila
[15:05] <TJ-> Fuchs: How about over-riding the logrotate session script to delete some files?
[15:05] <melanie> que te pasa gila mano  a mano
[15:05] <melanie> pue
[15:05] <bazhang_> !es
[15:05] <kyra> dale de una adonde???decime no ma
[15:05] <Fuchs> TJ-: sounds like a bit of a hack, but I am already doing one of these, so probably that shall be the way to go unless this is properly fixed, yes. Thanks.
[15:05] <melanie> jeje que gil
[15:05] <melanie> ya vino la vieja ejejej
[15:06] <DJones> kyra: melanie This channel is the Ubuntu support channel, its not for general chat
[15:06] <SonikkuAmerica> !es | melanie
[15:06] <kyra> jajajajajaj
[15:06] <melanie> wtf
[15:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Because I know Spanish, I can understand you 2.
[15:07] <kyra> what the fack??'
[15:07] <DJones> kyra: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[15:09] <kyra> no entiendo un carajo jajajaja chauuuu
[15:19] <dusf123> i have created a launcher and it works great, but if i add this argument about threaded optimizations it gives the error 'there was an error launchign the application', and it does this whether or not the launch is set to run the command or run the command in a launcher. strangely, if i run the same command manually in terminal it works fine, this is the command: __GL_THREADED_OPTIMIZATIONS=1 wine "C:\\Program Files\\World of Warcraft 3.3.5a\\WoW.exe" -op
[15:19] <dusf123> how can i make the launcher not give an error?
[15:20] <bazhang_> dusf123, try in #winehq
[15:20] <dusf123> i have
[15:20] <dusf123> seems more an issue with the launcher than wine, seeing as how the command works in a terminal
[15:25] <stpere> dusf123: the way to set the env variable is problematic
[15:25] <stpere> http://askubuntu.com/questions/144968/set-variable-in-desktop-file
[15:25] <stpere> use the env command in front
[15:26] <dusf123> stpere: from that link it loosk like i just put Exec=env in front?
[15:27] <stpere> well, you should already have an Exec= line in your .desktop launcher
[15:27] <Guest88840> XChat: /load .xchat2/budus.so
[15:27] <dusf123> stpere: i tried this but it failed: Exec=env __GL_THREADED_OPTIMIZATIONS=1 wine "C:\\Program Files\\blah\\blah.exe" -opengl
[15:28] <dusf123> stpere: oh you mean looking at the code of the launcher, i am editing it using properties, that is, editing the line
[15:28] <stpere> yes, otherwise, I think you would only put the env thing, and not put Exec=
[15:28] <stpere> the wizard will add it for you
[15:29] <dusf123> stpere: okay let me try prefixing the working command with the gl addition, and env at the very start
[15:30] <barq> I want to set my proxy using cntlm. How can I test if the configuration is set properly?
[15:31] <dusf123> stpere: very nice, thank you :) it opens a terminal window for a second before the program starts, anyway to hide this?
[15:31] <stpere> in the .desktop file (open it with gedit), check if the Terminal="yes" is there
[15:32] <stpere> sorry, it would be Terminal="true"
[15:32] <stpere> if it is, change it to Terminal="false"
[15:32] <dusf123> stpere: correct :)
[15:32] <dusf123> is there any risk this will stop the env argument being set, or will it just hide the terminal?
[15:32] <stpere> it should just hide the terminal
[15:33] <dusf123> stpere: anyway to check the env while running to confirm?
[15:33] <spandel_> I can't seem to figure this out!
[15:33] <spandel_> TJ-: You still here?
[15:35] <stpere> dusf123: yes, while the program is running, get its pid (process id), either using top, or ps -aux
[15:35] <spandel_> Like I said earlier, I am trying to connect my TV to my PC which is running Ubuntu 14.04
[15:35] <stpere> now, in /proc/<the pid you found>/environ
[15:35] <spandel_> My pc seems to recognize the TV, but the TV doesn't show any picture at all
[15:36] <holstein> stpere: what are the connections on the TV? vga? hdmi?
[15:36] <lmat> I'm trying to add the ppa documented here  https://launchpad.net/~alexmurray/+archive/indicator-sensors
[15:36] <holstein> !ppa | lmat
[15:36] <lmat> When I run apt-get update after adding that PPA, I get "W: Failed to fetch http:...  404 Not Found"
[15:36] <spandel_> I have noticed however that the tv kind of twitches when i try to change the resolution of it
[15:36] <spandel_> so it gets some kind of signal from the pc
[15:36] <lmat> For both the amd64 and i386 URLs. I'll show the command that I used:
[15:37] <lmat> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:alexmurray/indicator-sensors;   seems pretty straightforward! Am I missing something?
[15:37] <stpere> dusf123: that file should contain the environ variable of that process
[15:37] <spandel_> and it works fine from a different computer (of different model) that is running windows
[15:37] <stpere> you will need root access to see its content tho I think
[15:37] <lmat> !addppa
[15:37] <dusf123> stpere: i have the PID
[15:37] <stpere> something like sudo cat /proc/some_pid/environ should do the trick
[15:38] <lmat> The fact that it's getting the URLs from the PPA tells me that the PPA must exist (right?) ... I mean, something is happening correctly....
[15:38] <holstein> spandel_: what are the connections to the TV? hdmi? vga?
[15:38] <spandel_> holstein: hdmi
[15:38] <holstein> spandel_: is VGA an option?
[15:39] <spandel_> not preferably
[15:39] <holstein> spandel_: it may be that, in linux, the creator of the hardware has not provided you suppport for hdmi out
[15:40] <spandel_> but i have used this specific computer and OS for hdmi out with a different TV
[15:40] <holstein> spandel_: i would look for and apply all upgrades.. then, look for any alternative graphics drivers.. then, consider vga instead of hdmi.. its a process of trial and error, really, since you are not promised linux support
[15:40] <TJ-> spandel_: Can you "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" so we can see what the driver finds. As I said earlier, it's likely a modeline issue and a broken EDID
[15:41] <holstein> spandel_: then, check the TV settings, friend.. could be you are sending a resolution the TV cand recieve.. check the connection from the HDMI out to another TV *now* just tp be sure the device is working in linux
[15:42] <spandel_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7690934/
[15:42] <rymate1234> what's the best way to backup an entire
[15:42] <rymate1234> whoops
[15:42] <rymate1234> what's the best way to backup the databases of a mysql installation
[15:43] <IdleOne> ask #mysql
[15:43] <spandel_> holstein: i am not sure what i can config on the TV, like i said, it works in it current mode with a different PC and windows
[15:44] <holstein> spandel_: windows support is irrelevant..
[15:44] <spandel_> and i don't have access to another TV at the moment, but i used it just before switching to this TV and it worked fine then
[15:44] <holstein> spandel_: does *that* system with linux running send anything via hdmi? have you tried vga to the same TV?...
[15:45] <`nik`> TJ-: that pacmd command shows "Default sink name: auto_nul"
[15:45] <dusf123> stpere: missed your second reply on the file to check, checking now
[15:45] <dioioib> rymate1234: you can do a full export using mysqldump
[15:45] <spandel_> holstein: just mentioned windows support to rule out the TV being wrongly configured
[15:45] <dioioib> mysqldump -u YourUser -p UserPassword YourDatabaseName > wantedsqlfile.sql
[15:46] <dioioib> do it for each database though or you will be missing files.
[15:46] <holstein> spandel_: being wrongly configure with *that* operating system, and that hardware cannont be ruled out that way, however
[15:46] <dioioib> gtg.
[15:46] <holstein> spandel_: i am talking about what your installation of ubuntu is current sending to the TV via hdmi.. i use arandr GUI tool to send other options to the devices when troublshooting
[15:48] <TJ-> spandel_: On lines 337-338 you'll see the modelines. Those, and the subsequent attempts to set modes show problems
[15:49] <Sasha> Yop I have an issue with my new vps
[15:49] <Sasha> I added a .ssh/known_hosts file
[15:50] <Sasha> and I still need a password when I log in via ssh
[15:50] <jpds> Sasha: You're looking for authorized_keys.
[15:50] <Sasha> Ah oups
[15:50] <Sasha> thanks
[15:51] <holstein> Sasha: is your question "how to login via ssh without password using keys?"? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[15:51] <Sasha> perfect that works, jpds !
[15:51] <spandel_> TJ-: oh I see! :)
[15:51] <Sasha>  no I just used the wrong filename holstein, but thanks anyways
[15:52] <spandel_> TJ-: i still feel lost though, what should i do?
[15:52] <holstein> spandel_: try modes that the device you are sending to will use
[15:53] <zumba_addict> hi folks, what tool can i use to display the amount of memory an app is using?
[15:53] <TJ-> spandel_: Usually it requires a custom modeline being created for the monitor, via creating a "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" file ... what is the make/model of the TV?
[15:53] <spandel_> samsung ps50c96hd
[15:53] <TJ-> spandel_: The device's EDID is telling the PC it supports 2 1920x1080 modes but it doesn't report a screen dimension and some other values look 'iffy'
[15:53] <ix1> quick question:  I have a .PDF that won't display properly on 14.04 with the latest version of Adobe Reader.  The PDF file just opens an image telling me to upgrade to the latest version.  GIMP and other software display the same message
[15:54] <ix1> I've tried using web-based PDF conversion sites and the same issue, so I imagine they're using my browser's PDF plugin for processing
[15:55] <holstein> spandel_: i'll just set to something i know the system will use.. something quite small and average.. something that you have already tested working on the device in your previous tests
[15:55] <ix1> so the question is:  does anyone have an alternate PDF viewer that can bypass this issue?
[15:55] <Me_1> hi
[15:56] <maxxd_> hi
[15:56] <spandel_> but how do i figure out what modeline i should really use?
[15:57] <spandel_> i can't just make something up
[15:57] <Me_1> anybody can  help me Im issue with virtual box it sends error rf=-1908
[15:57] <TJ-> spandel_: OK, here's what is VERY weird. If you gave me the correct model #, and the Samsung site gave me the correct user manual, according to it the maxium PC resolution supported is  "1360 x 768 @ 60 Hz" - which makes no sense at all!
[15:57] <Me_1> im trying with the next  commnad etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[15:58] <spandel_> TJ-: Haha, yeah, i have noticed that as well.
[15:58] <TJ-> spandel_: See page 60 of the guide
[15:58] <Me_1> but still send the same error
[15:58] <spandel_> but i think they are referring to VGA
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[15:58] <holstein> !ot | Liliane21
[15:59] <spandel_> there is an input on the tv called "PC" but no input called VGA
[15:59] <spandel_> there is however an VGA input on the back of the pc
[15:59] <Me_1> please sombody can help me?
[15:59] <holstein> spandel_: pc is vga on the units i have..
[16:00] <spandel_> yeah that's what i thought
[16:00] <spandel_> so maximum res for vga is 1360 x 768 @ 60 Hz
[16:00] <holstein> spandel_: i literally just try them all, and see exactly what the inputs are.. or consult the documentation
[16:00] <Me_1> I need a help virtualbox sends error rc=-1908 and does not work some body tell me about this?
[16:01] <TJ-> spandel_: which HDMI port is the cable connected to, on the TV?
[16:01] <TJ-> spandel_: For VGA it should be able to go a lot higher
[16:01] <holstein> Me_1: volunteers are welcome and able to respond.. you can also try the #vbox support channels
[16:01] <spandel_> it is currently connected to HDMI1
[16:01] <spandel_> I have however tried HDMI2 as well
[16:02] <holstein> Me_1: are you up to date with upgrades? are you using the default repo version? is this something that broke? or never worked for you?
[16:02] <Me_1> ok thanks #holstein
[16:02] <spandel_> i even tried with a different cable
[16:02] <holstein> spandel_: you can test the cable, though.. and should
[16:02] <muonRULES> just curious...why am i getting libssl1.0.0:i386?
[16:02] <TJ-> spandel_: OK, because page 7 lists the modes each port supports... I notice that 1080 is interlaced not progressive
[16:03] <canaima> valentina
[16:03] <Me_1> yes I have upgrades and does not work and do not shows something broke
[16:03] <muonRULES> system is amd64...
[16:03] <spandel_> holstein: i tried with two different cables, and at least one of them works for sure when running windows
[16:03] <canaima> hello
[16:03] <spandel_> also worked a few days ago with different tv
[16:03] <spandel_> and *this* computer
[16:03] <TJ-> spandel_: When it's connected to the Windows PC, can you tell us what resolution and mode it is using (1920x1080 interlaced, for example) ?
[16:04] <holstein> spandel_: you can take a "known good" cable that you know works, that you see currently working.. then, you dont need to guess if its working.. you do that same process to remove other variables
[16:04] <riply> iptable, are you still around?
[16:04] <holstein> as TJ- is suggesting, use what you know the tv accepts.. the resolution. .i use the arandr tool to just send all options. it usually takes me about 4 or 5 minutes to just try sending all that can be sent spandel_
[16:05] <spandel_> TJ-: It worked with several reolutions, 1920x1080i is one of the ones i specifically tried
[16:05] <holstein> spandel_: and what about when you set *other* resolutions with the display tool? or arandr? have you tried something quite small and "normal"?
[16:06] <pantomime> am I doing i3 wrong if I use it with Ubuntu that has unity already installed?
[16:06] <spandel_> holstein: i have tried all possible resolutions with arandr or similar tools
[16:06] <spandel_> when i say all possible, i mean the ones that are listed
[16:06] <holstein> pantomime: no.. though, you dont need to start with it.. you could use..
[16:06] <holstein> !mini | pantomime
[16:07] <riply> hey guys, can anyone lend me some feedback/advice on the 'built-in' software RAID in the latest 14.04 which you can do in installation, VS a prefered software RAID from a boot CD or something like that? I am brand new to software RAID and looking into it as a viable solution rather than hardware.
[16:07] <holstein> spandel_: you can use a custom xorg.conf to try forcing other options.. i'll try with live CD's.. i'll grab configs from systems that work if possible
[16:07] <pantomime> holstein thanks, thats what I meant, my one issue would be usability and I dont want to find myself in dependency hell
[16:08] <spandel_> holstein: yeah i am starting to realize that i need a custom xorg.conf
[16:08] <holstein> pantomime: any package manager will help with that.. use defualt repo pacakges, and you should have support
[16:09] <Beldar> pantomime, Are you familiar with linux or ubuntu?
[16:10] <pantomime> Beldar: I am a unix admin by profession, but I deal more with rpm based distros and gentoo before using ubuntu now
[16:10] <Beldar> pantomime, Good, hard to tell just wondering.
[16:11] <pantomime> beldar: np, I want to transition to just using a windows manager on an older 2011 laptop I through a SSD in to breath new life
[16:11] <pantomime> guess I could save my confs and do a re-install
[16:12] <holstein> pantomime: i suggest, try something like lubuntu which is basically designed to do what you are trying to do, and is "lighter" and smaller than main ubuntu.. from there, you can use i3 if you prefer
[16:12] <holstein> !lubuntu
[16:12] <pantomime> I want to use almost exclussively text based apps (alpine for mail etc) trying to grow my neckbeard in
[16:12] <lmat> AlexM850: AlexPortable: yo
[16:12] <lmat> Are you Alex Murray ? ^_^
[16:12] <Beldar> lmat, totally inappropriate here.
[16:13] <lmat> Beldar: okay.
[16:13] <iptable> riply, I am now
[16:13] <pantomime> I will take a look at lubuntu then, will be better than bootstraping some other light weight distro
[16:13] <riply> iptable,  :)
[16:13] <lmat> I'm trying to add a PPA by alexmurray called indicator-sensors. I ran apt-add-repository ppa:alexmurray/indicator-sensors; and it succeeded, but the next apt-get update; failed with
[16:14] <lmat> "W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/alexmurray/...  404 Not Found"
[16:14] <holstein> lmat: ppa's are not officially supported.. did you ssee the link i gave?
[16:14] <holstein> !ppa | lmat
[16:14] <lmat> Am I missing something
[16:14] <Beldar> lmat, Did you check that there is support for your release?
[16:14] <holstein> lmat: could be as simple as, the ppa is not supported by the creator any more, and is "dead"
[16:14] <riply> iptable,  I have spent the last couple of hours reading up on the software you suggested! Can you give me some insight into using the 'built-in (when you are installing the server) software RAID vs a thirdparty one, like you suggested earlier?
[16:15] <lmat> holstein: I wasn't necessarily looking for support for that particular PPA, but rather dealing with PPAs in general (to see if I missed something). Beldar has given an excellent suggestion, and I'll check on that immediately.
[16:15] <Beldar> lmat, only up to saucy support
[16:16] <lmat> Beldar: Probably not since the last update was sent in late 2013 :(
[16:16] <lmat> Beldar: Thanks for the advice!
[16:16] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~alexmurray/+archive/indicator-sensors-daily looks like it should work for trusty..
[16:16] <Beldar> lmat, No problem.
[16:16] <holstein> no.. actually, not
[16:16] <lmat> holstein: darn, you had my hopes up ^_^ Why not ?
[16:17] <muonRULES> i know wine is 32bit...but does that link to libssl1.0.0?
[16:17] <holstein> lmat: read for youself.. i do see trusty support.. https://launchpad.net/~alexmurray/+archive/indicator-sensors-daily
[16:17] <muonRULES> i doubt it...
[16:17] <lmat> holstein: Ah, good suggestion. I'll try the daily one.
[16:17] <holstein> lmat: it will be up to you to find, install, trust, and maintain the 3rd party sources.
[16:18] <AlexPortable> lmat: what?
[16:18] <lmat> AlexPortable: working on indicator-sensors, but my message to you was censored.
[16:18] <lmat> holstein: Oh, I thought the PPA would handle that. That's why I'm using apt and PPA rather than a tar-ball, right?
[16:19] <Beldar> lmat, You would contact the maintainer through launchpad is all.
[16:19] <holstein> lmat: no.. the reason you use a PPA is because you dont want to install from scratch.. if you'll please read the link i gave, you'll understand that ppa's are not able to be officially supported
[16:19] <holstein> !ppa > lmat
[16:20] <holstein> lmat: ppa's are great, and handy. and i use them.. but, i have read and understand the risks, and where the burden of support is..
[16:21] <lmat> holstein: So I'm expecting that if a package in a PPA is updated, I'll see it when I next   apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; There's nothing about that in the factoid nor the link you gave I think.
[16:21] <holstein> lmat: correct.. you are adding the 3rd party unsupported sources to your sources.. thus, trusting them
[16:22] <lmat> holstein: You said "it will be up to you to ... maintain the 3rd party sources." right?
[16:22] <holstein> lmat: correct.. they are *not* maintained here.. or supported.. you do that with the creator of the ppa
[16:22] <iptable> riply, it's all built-in. dmraid and btrfs are both built-in raid. it's not 3rd-party
[16:23] <lmat> holstein: Ahh, I think I see. when you said maintained, I understood that to mean "manage upgrades" as well as trouble-shooting, etc.
[16:23] <holstein> lmat: you were selecting one that didnt provide support for your operating system.. when you choose one that does, you'll be able to enjoy what ppa's provide..
[16:24] <lmat> holstein: Thanks for your help!
[16:24] <lmat> holstein: It looks like I installed the daily one successfully now.
[16:25] <ki7mt> lmat, if you use PPA's on a regular basis, look into an app called y-ppa-manager, it makes managing much easier.
[16:25] <lmat> ki7mt: Thanks! It seems pretty easy as it is, but I'll keep that in mind.
[16:26] <ki7mt> lmat, it allows you for update single PPA's for testing, install / remove the PPA's and many more features. I use as a PPA maintainer, works well, info: https://launchpad.net/y-ppa-manager
[16:33] <muonRULES> is there a tool?
[16:33] <muonRULES> how can i find out what links to a specific lib?
[16:34] <muonRULES> i doubt dpkg itself lets me trace that...
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[16:39] <muonRULES> just curious...why am i getting libssl1.0.0:i386 on an amd64 install?
[16:41] <genii> !multiarch
[16:41] <OerHeks> !heartbleed | muonRULES, as it is correct
[16:41] <ki7mt> muonRULES, Not sure about the reverse,ldd will tell you the lib links. re: i386, if there are apps that are i386 specific, the package will nornmally add the i386 libs also
[16:42] <muonRULES> sure, i've noticed the whole ssl family got overhauled
[16:43] <ki7mt> muonRULES, Yes, the fixed a few wholes, I've not checked personally, but maybe the package cutomatically included am64 & i386
[16:43] <ki7mt> .. automatically ...
[16:43] <muonRULES> my question is: why am i downloading libssl.1.0.0:i386...
[16:44] <muonRULES> i see, ok
[16:44] <ki7mt> muonRULES, It's either install both by default, or there is an i386 dep somewhere
[16:45] <muonRULES> yup
[16:45] <muonRULES> but what could that be?
[16:45] <trism> muonRULES: skype maybe? hard to know without knowing what you installed
[16:45] <muonRULES> i know wine is 32bit
[16:45] <ki7mt> There are tons of i386 apps, could be anything
[16:45] <muonRULES> shrug :) ok
[16:46] <ki7mt> muonRULES, You could try using rdepends or the like to try and narrow it down some, but it's like looking for a needle in a stack of needles
[16:47] <trism> muonRULES: if you have aptitude installed you can do: aptitude why libssl1.0.0:i386
[16:47] <muonRULES> rdepends?
[16:47] <muonRULES> ok, thx
[16:47] <ki7mt> rdepends == reverse depends
[16:48] <muonRULES> yeah,i just didn't know the tool yet
[16:48] <ki7mt> bainaries are much easier than libs, libs can be used by tons of things.
[16:49] <muonRULES> of course
[16:49] <ki7mt> I've not used apptitude why though, that's sounds interesting
[16:50] <muonRULES> i   google-earth-stable Hängt ab von ia32-libs
[16:50] <muonRULES> i A ia32-libs           Hängt ab von libssl1.0.0:i386
[16:50] <muonRULES> very useful :)
[16:51] <ki7mt> On my box:
[16:51] <muonRULES> trism, i agree...aptitude rules (too)
[16:51] <ki7mt> p   openssh-server:i386 Provides openssh-server  ;  p   openssh-server:i386 Depends  libssl1.0.0:i386 (>= 1.0.1)
[16:57] <Randy_O> hello, looking for some help: my apt-get and wget no longer work on my server after I removed squid-deb-proxy, any ideas what's causing this? all other computers in the house can update just fine.
[17:02] <holstein> Randy_O: are you connected? try simply pinging something..
[17:03] <Randy_O> holstein, I'm connected, I can ping external address, I had this same problem when I install the squid-deb-proxy and now its the same problem after removing it.
[17:03] <holstein> Randy_O: ok.. what did you do to address it back then? add some kind of proxy config?
[17:04] <Randy_O> holstein, it was a conflict on port 80, so I changed the apache2 server to run on 8080 and it all worked. Now apache is back on 80 and there is no proxy server running
[17:11] <jhutchins> Randy_O: Just a guess: there's a system-wide proxy setting still on somewhere.
[17:11] <jhutchins> Randy_O: Did you remove/delete or purge?
[17:12] <Randy_O> jhutchins, I think so too, It's a server, so I'm doing all the command line I think to find and remove porxy settings. I removed and purged squid-deb-proxy
[17:15] <holstein> Randy_O: confirm if they have been removed or not
[17:16] <Randy_O> holstein, ok, I've re-run apt-get remove and purge on all the packages and I've done both locate and grep to find and squid files or proxy settings left over in /etc/apt/ Anywhere else to check?
[17:16] <TJ-> Randy_O: Have you looked for custom apt settings in "/etc/apt/conf.d/", such as for http::Proxy ?
[17:17] <holstein> !proxy
[17:17] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/squid.html
[17:17] <Randy_O> TJ-, Hi, yes, I have, there's none on there (i removed the 50apt-cache file I created before) I've also tried adding an apt setting of no proxy and proxy: none
[17:18] <TJ-> Randy_O: also, is the system also using apt-cacher{,-ng} ?
[17:18] <TJ-> Randy_O: So what failure do you actually get? what's the error code?
[17:18] <mantaro> #11
[17:18] <Randy_O> TJ-, It was a while ago, I removed it and swtich to squid-deb-proxy and now I've removed both
[17:19] <Randy_O> TJ-, W: Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release.gpg  Unable to connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:http: [IP: 91.189.91.13 80]
[17:19] <Randy_O> TJ-, This is the same for all my sources, and I've tried setting it back to default sources and no luck
[17:19] <holstein> Randy_O: can you ping it?
[17:19] <TJ-> Randy_O: Can the system connect to *any* external hosts?
[17:19] <TJ-> Randy_O: That looks like a default route has gone AWOL
[17:20] <Randy_O> holstein, PING www.google.com (74.125.226.146) 56(84) bytes of data.
[17:20] <Randy_O> 64 bytes from yyz08s14-in-f18.1e100.net (74.125.226.146): icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=121 ms
[17:20] <Randy_O> TJ-, I agree, I think so too, but not sure where to look to fix it. I can contact external sources, but I cant apt-get or wget
[17:21] <holstein> Randy_O: try pinging specifically the address you are trying to connect to
[17:21] <TJ-> Randy_O: You can't ping 91.189.91.13 ?
[17:21] <holstein> ^
[17:21] <Randy_O> Ping was successful, I can ping any of the IPs
[17:21] <TJ-> Randy_O: how about the hostname then?
[17:22] <TJ-> Randy_O: "ping  ca.archive.ubuntu.com" ?
[17:22] <Randy_O> ping ca.archive.ubuntu.com was also good to go
[17:22] <TJ-> Randy_O: OK, so that does make it look like a port 80 issue :)
[17:23] <TJ-> Randy_O: Did you have any transparent proxy netfilters rules set by iptables ?
[17:23] <Randy_O> it's only for downloading and it's only since I removed the proxy server. All my other computers sorted themselves out, but the server running the proxy can't recover
[17:24] <lionrouge> hi
[17:24] <lionrouge> tell me please do Ubuntu developers read this?
[17:24] <holstein> lionrouge: this?
[17:24] <lionrouge> holstein, this channel
[17:24] <Randy_O> TJ-, I've disabled the firewall completely for now, should I check iptables somewhere else?
[17:25] <holstein> lionrouge: this is the volunteer run ubuntu stupport channel.. check the /topic and enjoy
[17:25] <TJ-> Randy_O: Does this work? "exec 4<>/dev/tcp/ca.archive.ubuntu.com/80; echo -e "GET / HTTP/1.1\nHost: ca.archive.ubuntu.com\n\n" >&4; cat <&4; exec 4<&-"
[17:26] <Randy_O> TJ-,  it reported: -bash: connect: Network is unreachable and -bash: /dev/tcp/ca.archive.ubuntu.com/80: Network is unreachable and -bash: 4: Bad file descriptor
[17:27] <TJ-> Randy_O: OK, so this looks like an iptables issue, or external to that PC
[17:27] <lionrouge> tell me please can i rename localized folders in /home/user ?
[17:27] <lionrouge> i use Ubuntu 14.04
[17:27] <holstein> lionrouge: sure.. your user has permission to change data there easily
[17:28] <TJ-> Randy_O: Are you able to pastebinit "sudo iptables -S" ?
[17:28] <holstein> lionrouge: though, the system may be looking for specific directories.. what is the goal?
[17:28] <lionrouge> holstein, but i think there localized names are written in many places like programs settings files
[17:28] <Randy_O> TJ-,  all the other PCs and devices on the network are fine, so the router is probably fine. Also, I can't access apache on port 80 right now, but I can get https on 443
[17:28] <holstein> lionrouge: you think what?
[17:28] <Randy_O> TJ-, how to I pastebin?
[17:28] <holstein> !paste
[17:29] <TJ-> Randy_O: there's a util "pastebinit" often installed by default on recent releases
[17:29] <lionrouge> holstein, i mean i don't think i can easily change DOcuments or Downloads folder name
[17:29] <TJ-> Randy_O: You'll probably have to manually move the data over to another host/via email, since that PC doesn't have port 80 connections :s
[17:30] <holstein> lionrouge: right click and change what you like, friend.. just expect applications to look for defaults.. what is the goal?
[17:31] <Randy_O> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7691344/
[17:31] <TJ-> lionrouge: You can instead create symbolic links with the preferred names pointing to the current localised names, to avoid changing anything
[17:31] <lionrouge> TJ-, thanks for advice
[17:31] <TJ-> Randy_O: This is intriguing!
[17:32] <Randy_O> TJ-, I've been working on it for over a day now, haha, it was intriguing yesterday, not so much for me today
[17:32] <TJ-> Randy_O: have you checked there isn't a zombie/stuck process of the proxy daemon still in memory?
[17:32] <Randy_O> TJ-, I haven't, how to check?
[17:33] <TJ-> Randy_O: although I'm not sure how that'd be able to intercept port 80 without netfilters
[17:33] <TJ-> Randy_O: "ps -efly" and look through the list carefully
[17:33] <dmj`> Hi, I'm trying to replace upstart with systemd. this forum post tells me to call sudo apt-get install systemd-sysv, but the pkg doesn't exist. I have updated my repository. http://askubuntu.com/questions/420917/how-can-i-replace-upstart-with-systemd How do I get systemd on ubuntu
[17:34] <TJ-> dmj`: systemd's init system isn't installed or supported as yet
[17:35] <lionrouge> it created Downloads folder again with localized name
[17:35] <dmj`> TJ-: ok
[17:36] <lionrouge> i attempted to download a file with Firefox
[17:36] <TJ-> Randy_O: can the machine connect to port 80 of non-repository hosts - regular web-sites ?
[17:37] <Randy_O> TJ-, No zombie process, I checked them all. and no on port 80 for other sites Connecting to www.google.com (www.google.com)|2607:f8b0:400b:80b::1013|:80... failed: Network is unreachable.
[17:37] <TJ-> Randy_O: ooooo.... look.... IPv6!
[17:37] <lionrouge> i knew it wouldn't be that easy T_T
[17:37] <trism> dmj`: it is available in 14.10 though if you want to start testing: http://www.piware.de/2014/04/booting-ubuntu-with-systemd-now-in-utopic/
[17:38] <Randy_O> TJ-,  so I should disable it?
[17:38] <dmj`> trism: I'll wait for full support, thanks tho
[17:38] <Randy_O> TJ-, for consistency, the IPv4 also failed Connecting to www.google.com (www.google.com)|74.125.226.113|:80... failed: Connection refused.
[17:38] <TJ-> Randy_O: not for now unless there's evidence it's the problem... which from the tests doesn't appear to be the case
[17:39] <dmj`> does anyone have a simple guide to ubuntu upstart? I just need to run 3 binaries... 1 a web server, the other 2 db servers
[17:39] <TJ-> Randy_O: Are you 100% positive the network's gateway isn't preventing that system from connecting to port 80?
[17:39] <bnutzer> is there a list of known-to-work graphics driver + hw combinations?
[17:40] <Randy_O> TJ-, no, not 100 percent, but the issue is completely isolated to this one machine on the same network and using the same router as all my other machines (mixbag of ubuntu and iOS devices)
[17:40] <TJ-> Randy_O: Can that PC connect to port 80 of an internal machine that runs a HTTP server process?
[17:41] <TJ-> Randy_O: which ubuntu release is it, and is it Server  or Desktop flavour?
[17:42] <Randy_O> TJ-, no, I have another computer running apache2 on port 80 and Connecting to 10.0.1.202:80... failed: Connection refused.
[17:42] <rrobles> alguien de peru?
[17:43] <TJ-> Randy_O: That "connection refused" suggests something is *in the way*. Have you used tcpdump to analyse the connection attempts?
[17:43] <Randy_O> TJ-, no, haven't tried that.
[17:43] <TJ-> Randy_O: does that PC have the single interface "p4p1" ?
[17:44] <TJ-> Randy_O: This is bare-metal, not a virtual machine, isn't it?
[17:44] <Randy_O> TJ-, p4p1      Link encap:Ethernet inet addr:10.0.1.200  Bcast:10.0.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[17:44] <whitepowder> is there a way to make kde NOT save the session on login/shutdown, besides manually setting it on each machine? I use a preseed config to install
[17:44] <Randy_O> TJ-, bare metal
[17:45] <lionrouge> i found it !!! SPecial folders names are stored in ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[17:45] <TJ-> Randy_O: in a separate terminal do "sudo tcpdump -nvi p4p1 tcp port 80" and then try to make a connection to that LAN-based apache server, see what you get
[17:45] <Randy_O> TJ-, will do
[17:50] <Randy_O> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7691434/ not sure what it means
[17:51] <RLW980> Hello guys, i'm bback"!
[17:52] <RLW980> How do I install and install-sh.sh file
[17:52] <RLW980> Ubottu: how do install .sh files
[17:53] <holstein> RLW980: ask the provider of the files
[17:53] <TJ-> Randy_O: the PC sends a SYN packet to start the connection, but instead of getting a SYN,ACK back it gets a RST (reset) immediately
[17:53] <RLW980> holstein: oh not you ahain
[17:54] <RLW980> *again!!!#
[17:54] <ki7mt> RLW980, install them wehre? local users or system wide like /usr/bin
[17:54] <Randy_O> TJ-, that's a new one to me, we're way out of my league here. Any ideas what's causing that?
[17:54] <jhutchins> RLW980: You don't.
[17:55] <TJ-> Randy_O: Is the PC having all its traffic gateway-ed through another? Can you show me "ip route ls table all"
[17:56] <Randy_O> TJ-, none of the devices route through any other, they route (should route) directly out through the router http://paste.ubuntu.com/7691465/
[17:58] <TJ-> Randy_O: Isn't the problem PC on IP 10.0.1.202 ?
[17:58] <module000> TJ-: if you're getting RST's back, that is what ISA and TMG do if you're on a corporate network.
[17:59] <TJ-> module000: indeed, but according to Randy_O there are no intermediate machines, we're testing against an internal LAN server
[17:59] <Randy_O> TJ-, I think we're getting all the numbers mixed up. 10.0.1.200 is the server with the problem, 10.0.1.202 is the computer I used to test port 80 locally
[17:59] <quuxman> when is Ubuntu / Unity going to grow a proper key mapping system?
[17:59] <rsw> is there a separate channel specifically for the xen vm application?
[17:59] <module000> TJ-: try this experiment, instead of looking up your destination by DNS (that's what hits the TMG/ISA blacklist and causes the RST to come), try hitting your port 80 traffic directly by IP, and run tcpdump while it's happening to see where the RST arrives from
[17:59] <quuxman> I'm endlessly frustrated by Xmodmap + Unity settings + Compiz settings + setxkbmap + who knows what else is mucking with key input
[18:00] <TJ-> module000: I don't have the problem
[18:00] <module000> TJ-: oh sorry, didn't know it was Randy. just saw a line scroll by in chat that reminded me of some places I've worked with filters
[18:00] <TJ-> module000: and, if you scroll back, you'll see that's what we've done
[18:01] <TJ-> Randy_O: OK, the IP addresses have now confused me. Can we summarise the issue using the IP addresses? :)
[18:01] <quuxman> there should be one system for key remapping and translation (one keysym should be able to produce sequences on the level below application configuration), and one system for mapping those to ui interactions
[18:02] <quuxman> with the current system, there are many reasonable key binding configurations that aren't reasonably possible
[18:03] <pavlos> .200 is the server that cannot go out, .202 is some other internal server running apache
[18:03] <bnutzer> anyone familiar with this kind of graphic corruption in qt creator / 14.04? (it's the only program where it happens atm) http://picpaste.com/pics/snapshot1-qfiiWMBD.1403546529.png
[18:03] <Randy_O> TJ-, will do: server 10.0.1.200 cannot apt-get or wget and any "get" from any machine on port 80. Also, anything incoming to port 80 should go to the apache2 but doesn;t cant connect. PC 10.0.1.202 plays no role in any of this, expect I was using it to test local traffic from the server. The server is connected and fine otherwise.
[18:04] <Randy_O> TJ-, And oddly, this is all since removing squid-deb-proxy
[18:04] <bzitzow> I'm on an EOL box - 11.04 Oneiric and I'm trying to install git
[18:04] <TJ-> Randy_O: OK, my head is clear again now. Daft question - have you/can you restart .200 ?
[18:05] <bzitzow> I updated the /etc/apt/sources.list to deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports oneiric main restricted universe multiverse and deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports oneiric-updates main restricted universe multiverse but I'm unable to find the package git using apt-get
[18:05] <Randy_O> TJ-, Have, and can. I restart every 10 minutes it seems. I'll do it again and let you know.
[18:05] <holstein> bzitzow: might be a fine time to take the opportunity to upgrade.. otherwise, you can maintain 11.04 as you please
[18:05] <xangua> bzitzow: upgrade to a supported ubuntu release
[18:05] <TJ-> Randy_O: no need! I was just wondering about a temporary kernel issue
[18:05] <holstein> bzitzow: the repos are EOL.. not there..
[18:05] <bzitzow> Anyone mirrors them?
[18:05] <Randy_O> TJ-, ok, it's back now anyways.
[18:05] <bzitzow> I'd like to upgrade, but it's a client's server
[18:05] <holstein> bzitzow: no.. but, you are welcome to
[18:06] <TJ-> Randy_O: what does "sudo netstat -pntl" show?
[18:07] <TJ-> bzitzow: the repos moved to "old-releases.ubuntu.com"
[18:07] <Randy_O> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7691508/
[18:08] <TJ-> Randy_O: so, it has apache listening on all interfaces for IPv4 port 80
[18:08] <TJ-> Randy_O: And, at this time, are there any netfilters (iptables) rules set?
[18:08] <ki7mt> bzitzow, if all else fails, build oit from source, you only need a few dep pkgs like zlib1g-dev, tk etc
[18:10] <Randy_O> TJ-, apache2 is all I want on that port (so good?) and there are no iptables settings at all.
[18:10] <TJ-> Randy_O: Are these PCs connected via a managed switch? Any VLAN separation on the LAN?
[18:11] <ki7mt> bzitzow, but the first thing I'd do is start twisting the clients arm to upgrade, they should have been on 11.04 to begin with, especially for servers.
[18:11] <ki7mt> should "not" have been ..
[18:11] <Randy_O> TJ-, There is a switch, but it's unmanaged, it's only used to expand the connectivity of the network. There are essentially 20 or so devices connected to a wired/wireless router.
[18:12] <bzitzow> ki7mt: roger that
[18:12] <RLW980> RLW980:=
[18:13] <RLW980> Can somebody please help me instal GRUB4DOS
[18:13] <holstein> RLW980: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38661/how-do-i-run-sh-files-in-terminal
[18:13] <RLW980> holstein: Meaning?
[18:13] <holstein> RLW980: http://sourceforge.net/projects/grub4dos/support?source=navbar
[18:14] <TJ-> Randy_O: I'm stumped! The tcpdump shows the server resetting the connection. That'd only happen if something decided to block the port, which points to the server's local firewall, or some intermediate device
[18:14] <pavlos> Randy_O, can you ssh from .200 to .202 ?
[18:14] <RLW980> this is bull-shite because say if i was an oldman or oldlady wtf would they do. STOP TALK JARGON AND HELP ME!!!!!
[18:14] <TJ-> pavlos: I don't know if you saw earlier, but pings by IP address or hostname reach the destinations, LAN and public WAN, but port 80 connections don't
[18:15] <pavlos> TJ-, trying to figure out if port 80 is the issue or any port ... ok, port 80 is the issue
[18:15] <Randy_O> TJ-, I've seen this before, when the proxy server was grabbing all the port 80 traffic, but I've since removed it, and all the other PC's are fine without, except this server. I'm stumped too.
[18:16] <Randy_O> pavlos, I can SSH both ways (200 to 202 and visa versa)
[18:16] <quuxman> does anybody know of any projects to make a better key input system?
[18:16] <holstein> RLW980: please watch your language here.. whats your question? for grub4dos, i would use the support avenues at http://sourceforge.net/projects/grub4dos/support?source=navbar ..for running .sh files http://askubuntu.com/questions/38661/how-do-i-run-sh-files-in-terminal
[18:16] <TJ-> pavlos: also, may not be clear, but the main issue is that the server itself (.200) cannot reach any port 80 servers (specifically for package updates/wget but also using a pure bash connection attempt using /dev/tcp)
[18:17] <pavlos> TJ-, yes, I follow the tread so far and am baffled
[18:17] <RLW980> holstein: no because your a unprofessional I.T programmer
[18:17] <TJ-> pavlos: here are the pastebins: iptables: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7691344/   port 80 tcpdump from a client .202: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7691434/   "ip route ls table all" http://paste.ubuntu.com/7691465/  "netstat -plnt" http://paste.ubuntu.com/7691508/
[18:18] <holstein> RLW980: let the volunteers here know if you have a question, otherwise, please keep the channel free of chat and comments.. take advantage of #ubuntu-offtopic for that.. thanks
[18:18] <RLW980> holstein: CUNTTTTT¬!¬!!!!
[18:19] <ki7mt> not gonna get allot of help that way
[18:26] <TJ-> Randy_O: Can you do an outgoing (from the server) test using tcpdump? "sudo tcpdump -nvi p4p1 tcp port 80" and in another terminal on the server try "exec 4<>/dev/tcp/ca.archive.ubuntu.com/80; echo -e "GET / HTTP/1.1\nHost: ca.archive.ubuntu.com\n\n" >&4; cat <&4; exec 4<&-" and pastebin the output?
[18:28] <Randy_O> TJ-, for sure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7691587/
[18:29] <Randy_O> TJ-, acutally, something we did fixed it.
[18:29] <Randy_O> TJ-, That command returned HTML and now apt-get is working.
[18:30] <andlabs> Hi. What pakcage is libgirepository debug symbols in? I don't see a libgirepository1.0-dbg. Thanks.
[18:30] <TJ-> Randy_O: That looks to have connected correctly!
[18:30] <TJ-> Randy_O: Well!
[18:31] <Randy_O> TJ-, yep, works great, now the hard part, do you have idea what fixed it?
[18:31] <TJ-> Randy_O: Oh I wish!
[18:31] <TJ-> Randy_O: It feels like a timeout, which goes back to the network's gateway/router
[18:32] <ki7mt> andlabs, if not seperate, most likely in the -dev pkg
[18:32] <Randy_O> TJ-, haha, yea, I have no clue. I'll take it though, hopefully it wont need fixin again.
[18:32]  * TJ- hopes so too
[18:32] <evader> hello
[18:32] <Randy_O> TJ-, pavlos holstein Thanks for all the help, this was a 2 day stump that I just couldnt figure out.
[18:32] <trism> andlabs: they are on ddebs: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/g/gobject-introspection/
[18:33] <ki7mt> Randy_O, dont think you've got it figured out, but it's working non-the-less :-)  it baffled me too.
[18:33] <pavlos> Randy_O, this wins the Thread of the Day award... no idea how it fixed itself
[18:33] <andlabs> thanks
[18:33] <andlabs> @ trism
[18:34] <Alexindim> guys could you help me with instaling predator
[18:34] <Alexindim> ?
[18:34] <Randy_O> Nevermind, still broke. I did a reboot and and it came back up with the same problem.
[18:34] <Randy_O> TJ-, Something we did wasnt a permanent change
[18:37] <Randy_O> TJ-, If youre still interested, that same error as before: bash: /dev/tcp/ca.archive.ubuntu.com/80: Network is unreachable
[18:38] <holstein> Randy_O: and you have applied the same "fixes" ? and they are not working? what worked last time?
[18:39] <Randy_O> holstein, whatever it was we did, it was temporary. A reboot set it all back. I've left all the fixes the same as wee've been working on.
[18:40] <holstein> Randy_O: what did it last time?friend?
[18:40] <DJJeff> could someone tell me why PulseAudio is crap? and how to force everything to use ALSA instead?
[18:40] <holstein> DJJeff: no.. but,i could help you diagnose and troubleshoot audio issues
[18:40] <holstein> !audio
[18:40] <Randy_O> holstein, I have no idea, we didnt really change much and it was only working for that breif moment.
[18:41] <DJJeff> I did $ sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio
[18:42] <DJJeff> and all of a sudden my youtube videos played with sound and not skipping
[18:42] <holstein> DJJeff: ok.. that will break pulse for sure
[18:42] <DJJeff> and not hogging cpu
[18:42] <DJJeff> when I did $ sudo apt-get install pulseaudio
[18:42] <holstein> DJJeff: youtube requires flash, which can be problematic at best on linux in general.
[18:42] <DJJeff> youtube videos sound would skip cpu would go nuts
[18:42] <ki7mt> there's better ways to utube that nuttering pulse for sure
[18:43] <holstein> DJJeff: i use the flash version from chrome, which is the only current version of flash for linux
[18:43] <DJJeff> yes pulseaudio is crap
[18:43] <DJJeff> I hate it I want it gone from my system
[18:43] <holstein> DJJeff: which do you use? https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ you can also try htlm5 https://www.youtube.com/html5
[18:44] <DJJeff> can I stab the pulseaudio devs several times in the chest?
[18:44] <holstein> DJJeff: if youtube is the only think you are gauging here, you are missing a larger point of failure, that can be present in alsa only
[18:44] <DJJeff> thats how much anger I have for pulseaudio
[18:44] <holstein> !ot | DJJeff
[18:44] <DJJeff> even skype and pulseaudio have issues
[18:44] <holstein> DJJeff: you are assuming pulse is the issue there, friend.. but, if you want to remove it, go for it. its not a trivial process
[18:45] <holstein> DJJeff: skype is the same, friend. not a linux application that is well supported.. you are assuming again pulse is the cause
[18:45] <ki7mt> pulse isn't the root issue thoug
[18:45] <ki7mt> though
[18:45] <DJJeff> I think it is because things work better when I purge pulseaudio from my system
[18:45] <DJJeff> but then certain programs require pulseaudio
[18:45] <DJJeff> which is why I am angry
[18:46] <holstein> DJJeff: sure. and its the "i think" part of your statement that is the issue..
[18:46] <holstein> DJJeff: its actually fact that flash and skype both are not supporting linux well..
[18:46] <DJJeff> ok even wine the windows emulator
[18:47] <DJJeff> alsa works better
[18:47] <holstein> DJJeff: no.. but, you can prefer alsa, and purge pulse.. please do so
[18:47] <DJJeff> there are countless programs where alsa works better
[18:47] <baumy> I can't seem to set the locale properly in ubuntu 12.04. I've tried every solution on google with update-locale, manually editing /etc/environment or /etc/default/locale, adding `export LANG=en_US.UTF-8` to .zshrc, dpkg-reconfigure locale, etc...
[18:47] <holstein> DJJeff: no.. but, you can prefer alsa as you please.. you are baseing your opinion on things that do not support linux well
[18:47] <DJJeff> some programs do not support alsa and require pulse
[18:47] <baumy> anything weird come to mind for what I'm not thinking of?
[18:48] <holstein> DJJeff: you can take that alsa support up with the creators of the applications.. though, i have no issues on systems that are using pulse, or using alsa only.. i do both
[18:48] <TJ-> Randy_O: !!!!
[18:48] <ki7mt> Then maybe you voice the issues to the application developers and convince them to use an alternative to pulse
[18:48] <TJ-> Randy_O: I do have the effect on systems of making them behave... then I walk away to make dinner and it breaks :)
[18:48] <Randy_O> TJ-, it's happening to you now too?
[18:49] <TJ-> Randy_O: No, thankfully, you can keep the issue :D
[18:49] <ki7mt> LOL
[18:49] <Randy_O> TJ-, Ha. no worries. thanks
[18:49] <TJ-> Randy_O: OK... so, you're seeing connection refused on the server, when it tries connecting  out to any port 80 host?
[18:50] <TJ-> Randy_O: how about we run up a simply port socket on .202 (the good client) and have the server try to connect to that?
[18:50] <Randy_O> TJ-, yes, still. I did manage to get one successful apt-get update, and you saw the pastebin output that it did work once.
[18:50] <DJJeff> # pulseaudio --version
[18:50] <DJJeff> pulseaudio 4.0
[18:50] <DJJeff> I think the latest is 5.0?
[18:50] <Randy_O> TJ-, sure, how should I do that?
[18:50] <holstein> DJJeff: if you dont properly purge pulse (and i dont see that you have) you can leave your system in a state where you might think the applications dont support alsa only, but actually, thats not the case
[18:51] <holstein> DJJeff: i use the stock ubuntu 14.04 pulse version with flash audio and skype, or whatever else i choose..
[18:52] <DJJeff> # dpkg -s pulseaudio
[18:52] <DJJeff> Version: 1:4.0-0ubuntu11
[18:52] <DJJeff> is that the latest?
[18:53] <ki7mt> I use 4 astrophysics applications that use pulse and fftw3, all are heavy audio processing apps, none have issues.
[18:53] <holstein> DJJeff: ubuntu doesnt promise the "lastest".. the versions are frozen for most core apps like that.. my stock version works fine, as should yours..
[18:53] <DJJeff> is yours version 4.0?
[18:53] <holstein> DJJeff: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/
[18:53] <holstein> DJJeff: mine is the stock version, friend.. the repo version. the one provided automatically
[18:53] <ki7mt> Yes, v4.0
[18:53] <aakraar> Audio processing is fine. Getting lag free input and connecting proaudio kit is a nightmare.
[18:54] <DJJeff> holstein is lazy to check $ sudo dpkg -s pulseaudio
[18:54] <DJJeff> for shame
[18:54] <holstein> DJJeff: do you have a question, friend?
[18:55] <TJ-> Randy_O: "sudo socat TCP-LISTEN:80,bind=10.0.1.202,fork,reuseaddr,crlf SYSTEM:"echo HTTP/1.0 200; echo Content-Type: text/plain; echo;" & " (that's on .202), and then on the server (.200) do "exec 4<>/dev/tcp/10.0.1.202/80; echo -e "GET / HTTP/1.1\n\n" >&4; cat <&4; exec 4<&-" -- check I have those IP addresses correct
[18:55] <DJJeff> you seem to be worshiping pulseaudio and can not share what version you are running?
[18:55] <holstein> DJJeff: im specifically offering volunteer support for you for your audio needs.. if you dont want pulse, dont use it
[18:55] <holstein> DJJeff: im using the stock verison, friend.. i have not changed it..
[18:56] <DJJeff> I do not want pulseaudio but some programs seem to depend on it
[18:56] <holstein> DJJeff: they will seem that way, if you dont properly purge pulse from your system
[18:56] <Randy_O> TJ .202 gives: [1] 26670 and .200 still shows -bash: /dev/tcp/10.0.1.202/80: Connection refused
[18:57] <DJJeff> proper way is just $ sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio ?
[18:57] <holstein> DJJeff: no
[18:57] <DadFoundMy> is there a way to stop caps lock from making keys uppercase, but keep it as a bindable key?
[18:57] <TJ-> Randy_O: OK... on .202 that is because the process has been backgrounded... try doing "fg" - sudo is probably waiting for a password... oops!
[18:57] <holstein> DJJeff: you can always refer to a distro that doesnt ship pulse as well..
[18:58] <TJ-> Randy_O: If that is the case, 'socat' will run in the foreground once you've entered the sudo password. At that point, try again making the connection from .200
[18:59] <holstein> DJJeff: http://www.johndscomputers.com/2014/multimedia/geek-friday-why-and-how-i-finally-removed-pulseaudio-in-favor-of-alsa-and-alternate-notification-icon-because-it-interfered-with-skype-in-ubuntu-13-10/ is acutally a good read on the topic
[18:59] <Randy_O> TJ-, ok, so it's running FG on .202 and I get same error on .200 -bash: /dev/tcp/10.0.1.202/80: Connection refused
[19:00] <sd1074> I have a failed software RAID. Now everytime I reboot, I have to press Ctrl-D because the boot process gets stuck at BusyBox. How can I set it up such that it does not require pressing Ctrl-D?
[19:01] <TJ-> Randy_O: OK, you can Ctrl+C socat on .202 ... lets get some info on the version of ubuntu on .200, to pastebin: "lsb_release -a && uname -a && ifconfig && sudo iptables -S && sudo ip route ls tables all"
[19:01] <sd1074> i don't always have physical access to the machine, and I can't yet replace the broken HDD yet
[19:02] <TJ-> Randy_O: also "sudo arp -n"
[19:02] <TJ-> sd1074: There is an option to bootdegraded, that can be added to the kernel command line
[19:03] <sd1074> TJ-, thanks, hope I'll figure it out
[19:03] <Randy_O> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7691721/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/7691725/
[19:03] <TJ-> sd1074: see https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/advanced-installation.html
[19:04] <purezen> Hey guys, I need to setup django on my ubuntu installation.. and am having issues with getting mysql to work with it.. How do I set it up? Thanks :)
[19:05] <sd1074> TJ-, thank you, reading.
[19:05] <TJ-> Randy_O: arghh, I mistyped one: "sudo ip route ls table all"
[19:06] <PercyOlymp> hi
[19:06] <Justine21>  Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.ly/1nYtVEm
[19:06] <PercyOlymp> was geht?
[19:07] <DJJeff> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06)
[19:07] <DJJeff> how can I check that I have the 'latest' drivers for this?
[19:07] <PercyOlymp> Who will get 1.000.000 $ ?
[19:07] <ki7mt> purezen, I had this on bookmarked, seems up to date: http://ericsaupe.com/ubuntu-14-04-fresh-install-instructions/
[19:08] <Randy_O> TJ-, here ya go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7691747/
[19:10] <TJ-> Randy_O: Are there any strict SELinux or Apparmor rules other than the defaults?
[19:11] <Randy_O> TJ-, it should all be default to 1.04 server, I havent made any changes to SELinux or Apparmor
[19:13] <purezen> ki7mt: Thanks man.. Shall try that..
[19:14] <drakedouay> I created a script that backups a mysql database and tossed it into /etc/cron.monthly. The problem is I have a password in the script in cleartext. I don't want every user to be able to read this file, is there a way to hide it?
[19:15] <TJ-> Randy_O: didn't think you would have, but as it seems to be the server itself causing the issue.
[19:15] <sasuke> hi
[19:16] <TJ-> Randy_O: I'm wondering about arp cache poisoning now, which could account for the strange behaviour
[19:16] <sasuke> is there any channel for deepin
[19:16] <Pici> !alis | sasuke
[19:17] <Randy_O> TJ-, Is there a way to check that?
[19:17] <bluefrog> drakedouay, make the script unreadable except by the user who is running it
[19:17] <sasuke> ubottu: thanks .. i will try that
[19:17] <TJ-> Randy_O: compare those MAC addresses that "arp -n" shows, with the MAC addresses reported by the machines with those IP addresses, especially the machine that is the default gateway
[19:18] <TJ-> Randy_O: On each machine use "ifconfig | grep HWaddr" to isolate MAC
[19:18] <ki7mt> drakedouay, Nope, if it's in a script, plain text is plain text.
[19:18] <TJ-> Randy_O: It is a *very* long shot, but something very weird appears to be affecting .200
[19:20] <drakedouay> bluefrog: it is a cronjob, which user runs the cron jobs?
[19:20] <Randy_O> TJ-, the MAC address check out, they're all the correct ones.
[19:21] <bluefrog> drakedouay, the one that you define in it
[19:21] <Randy_O> TJ-,  I think this problem is entirely with .200 the server
[19:21] <ki7mt> drakedouay, as bluefrog stated, you can change the file permissions, but if someone cracks the box, you have bigger issues that the sql DB pw at that point anyway.
[19:22] <pavlos> ki7mt, change perms to 711 (only root can read) but all can execute
[19:22] <TJ-> Randy_O: I'm hurting my brain trying to construct any - even weak - explanation based on the evidence you've provided so far
[19:22] <ki7mt> pavlos, understand, but he's worried about plain test pw's ion a script, if they get in the box, that's trouble.
[19:23] <ki7mt> plain text
[19:23] <pavlos> ki7mt, if they get in the box as root ... game over.
[19:23] <Randy_O> TJ-,  do you know of a way to make sure that the proxy (or any rpocess) stays off port 80? Or a way to make sure there are no rpoxy settings. The problem is also blocking other computers from accessing port 80 on .200 as well.
[19:23] <ki7mt> Indeed, that's what said too
[19:24] <bluefrog> drakedouay, example http://pastebin.com/Fnk0eh5g
[19:24] <ki7mt> pavlos, Personally, I would disable SSH, and use key authentication and run the script from a remote cron if I was worried about security.
[19:24] <TJ-> Randy_O: Well, we've shown that even bash cannot connect to any server on port 80, including .202 on the LAN, and there are no netfilters (iptables) rules causing any port 80 interference
[19:25] <bluefrog> drakedouay, now you could put the password in the root cronjob. nobody's supposed to access root's crontab
[19:26] <TJ-> Randy_O: Unless there is something else - I did wonder about nftables - in the kernel doing something ultra-strange... the proxy you had installed could only work if other applications were programmed to use a localhost proxy
[19:26] <Randy_O> TJ-,  they auto detected using avahi squid proxy client
[19:27] <sasuke> hi ... i'm sorry to spamming this channel, i dont have any other option/answer. can anyone tell me how to upgrade from deepin 2013 to deepin 2014
[19:27] <Pici> sasuke: what is deepin?
[19:28] <sasuke> pici: deepin is a new linux distro.
[19:28] <TJ-> Randy_O: But as far as I'm aware bash doesn't make use of any service discovery agent, like avahi
[19:28] <sasuke> which is based on ubuntu
[19:28] <Pici> sasuke: I'm sorry, #ubuntu is for support Ubuntu and Official Ubuntu variants only.
[19:29] <Randy_O> TJ-, that's right. I was only adding that the clients on the network weren't changed in any, they automatically picked up the proxy, and then stopped once I removed it. Only .200 never righted itself.
[19:29] <TJ-> Randy_O: My reasoning for testing the connection using pure bash was to eliminate any possible proxy configuration interference on the localhost
[19:29] <bluefrog> drakedouay, or even just the user running the job. don't think anyone else is able to list his crontab. something like http://pastebin.com/9qbV0Gq7
[19:30] <sasuke> Pici: yeah i know... but couldn't get solution for this.. its based on ubuntu so i guess i may get some solution here :(
[19:30] <TJ-> Randy_O: "connection refused" suggests an active connection REJECT, rather than a DROP - in iptables terms anyhow
[19:30] <ki7mt> drakedouay, Here's one way to do it: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9293042/mysqldump-without-the-password-prompt
[19:30] <Randy_O> TJ-,  right, and I though it was a conflict on port 80, but the system only shows apache2 using that port
[19:31] <ki7mt> drakedouay, and more info: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6861355/mysqldump-launched-by-cron-and-password-security/6861458#6861458
[19:31] <drakedouay> thanks
[19:31] <TJ-> Randy_O: If on .200 outgoing connection attempts to port 80 are being refused, that won't be anything to do with .200's apache daemon listening on port 80 - unless there are iptables rules hidden that are doing something to port 80 :)
[19:32] <TJ-> Randy_O: got to go for a while; dinner-time here... I'll keep thinking on it though
[19:32] <Randy_O> TJ-, thanks
[19:34] <WilsonMathew> I am connected to a network but when I look for something using firefox I have a message that is unable to connect. how could I fix thiS? or direct me to a page I aready looked it up in google.
[19:36] <ki7mt> WilsonMathew, is it only with FF you have this issue, or other browsers too?
[19:37] <WilsonMathew> well FF is the only browser I have... I tried doing an update doing "sudo apt-get update" to see if it would work but it didnt.
[19:38] <pavlos> WilsonMathew, can you ping outside from a terminal?
[19:41] <WilsonMathew> pavlos, not really. how do I do that?
[19:41] <holstein> WilsonMathew: open a terminal, and type "ping google.com"
[19:41] <bluefrog> WilsonMathew, sounds like a proxy in between you and the world. have to ask the admin or try automatic proxy detection
[19:43] <ki7mt> May want to ask if he's ever had internet connection first, like, is this a new install or did something change to cause this before diving into proxy issues.
[19:43] <bluefrog> WilsonMathew, or simply DNS as holstein suggests
[19:44] <bluefrog> ki7mt, yes indeed.
[19:44] <WilsonMathew> ki7mt... it is not a new intalletion I have had internet before. I have been connected to this network before.
[19:45] <pavlos> WilsonMathew, are you connected wired or wifi?
[19:45] <bluefrog> WilsonMathew, are you talking to us on that very computer and network right now?
[19:46] <WilsonMathew> pavlos, bluefrog, it is wifi and yes I am talking from this computer right now.
[19:47] <ki7mt> Well then, the NIC and DNS is working then.
[19:47] <bluefrog> WilsonMathew, so I assume that DNS is ok so you should have an answer from a pin in the terminal, correct?
[19:47] <bluefrog> ping
[19:48] <benzoben> hey anyone know any freenode channels that arent tech related?
[19:48] <genii> !alis | benzoben
[19:48] <WilsonMathew> let me try the ping. well I have ubuntu intalled in a usb and I use it as a hard drive. so let me long into ubuntu again and I will let you knwo about the ping.
[19:48] <ldlework> benzoben: #idlerpg
[19:48] <benzoben> thanks guys
[19:48] <ldlework> lol
[19:48] <bluefrog> WilsonMathew, hang on explain
[19:49] <bprompt> WilsonMathew:    ping -c 4 google.com   <--- or so
[19:49] <bluefrog> WilsonMathew, you are not talking to us thru the OS that you have problem with?
[19:49] <WilsonMathew> no
[19:49] <WilsonMathew> I am talking from windows 8.1
[19:50] <calju16> evening all!
[19:50] <bprompt> allo calju16
[19:50] <bluefrog> WilsonMathew, well that's another story then
[19:51] <WilsonMathew> yeah. well let me try to ping it.
[19:51] <Beldar> WilsonMathew,  You should be on a live on the computer for best help it is a waste of time for help otherwise
[19:51] <calju16> any of you folks having trouble with netflix and silverlight on 14.04?
[19:52] <Beldar> ideally chroted in
[19:52] <Beldar> chrooted
[19:52] <holstein> calju16: sure.. i have always had trouble.. but, its not supported
[19:52] <holstein> !netflix
[19:52] <ki7mt> calju16, I used this on a media box, seems to work just fine after install: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html
[19:53] <calju16> I've been using the pipelight dev for netflix ubottu - I really didnt get on with the desktop app
[19:53] <holstein> calju16: its not really important what you "get on with".. its just not supported officially, so you'll have to use what has been cobbled together to try and faciliate support
[19:53] <WilsonMathew> Beldar, man english is not my first language and I didn't get most of what you just said.. could you please explain it in other words? you mean I should have another computer while fixing this one?
[19:54] <calju16> yeah, that's what I used ki7mt, but today I logged on and it was telling me there was an issue with silverlight and it needed to be reinstalled
[19:54] <holstein> calju16: if you can ignore "it", and still use netflix, that might be ideal..
[19:54] <quuxman> an example of why key bindings in Ubuntu + X11 are terrible: I have capslock mapped to mode_switch, so capslock+ijkl are arrow keys. I have win+arrow-keys mapped to change desktop. Now you'd expect capslock+win+l to move desktops to the left, but it doesn't
[19:55] <quuxman> er, to the right
[19:55] <ki7mt> calju16, Well, I'd say if all else fails, try doing what it's says, as there may have been updates or something causing the issue.
[19:56] <quuxman> I'd also like to map mode_switch+b to ctrl+b, but I don't think that's possible at all with xmodmap
[19:56] <calju16> alright, cheers for that folks! I'll have another fiddle with it then!
[19:58] <CryptoSiD> hi im runing ubuntu precise kernel 3.5.0-49 and im seeing this process
[19:58] <CryptoSiD> root     20962  0.0  0.0   4312   348 ?        S    15:57   0:00 sleep 60
[19:58] <CryptoSiD> if i kill it it just reapear under new pid
[19:59] <CryptoSiD> is it normal?:D
[19:59] <DJJeff> can I force firefox to use alsa over pulseaudio?
[19:59] <DJJeff> seems like the best solution
[20:00] <ki7mt> CryptoSiD, witout know what the pid is, know way of telling, what does top say that is is?
[20:01] <holstein> DJJeff: what version of flash are you using, friend?
[20:01] <ki7mt> CryptoSiD, sri, that cam out all wrong, ya need to know what the pid is that's running, check top, and see what the noun name of the pid is that's running, then you can better determine if it's needed or what the situation is.
[20:01] <holstein> DJJeff: https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[20:01] <DJJeff> holstein, you do not seem to give straight up answers
[20:01] <holstein> DJJeff: that was a question..
[20:02] <holstein> DJJeff: you dont need to "Force" firefox to use pulse if you remove pulse properly, it'll just use alsa
[20:02] <CryptoSiD> the noun name?
[20:02] <holstein> DJJeff: the issue you are likely have is more about the outdated version of flash you are using with youtube expecting flawless performance
[20:03] <ki7mt> CryptoSiD, Exampl from my box: 13072 ki7mt     20   0 1551756  89316  13368 S   1.0  1.1   7:28.52 python3  .. noun name for pid 13073 == Python3
[20:03] <CryptoSiD> how do u see the noun name
[20:03] <CryptoSiD> 22104 root      20   0  4312  344  272 S  0.0  0.1   0:00.00 sleep
[20:03] <CryptoSiD> i see this in top
[20:04] <ki7mt> CryptoSiD, Ok, so 22104 is a sleep instruction for something.
[20:04] <CryptoSiD> yeah im just wondering whats running this
[20:04] <ki7mt> Do you have any apps or programs runnign in the background that may be idling or something?
[20:05] <DJJeff> holstein I doubt it because when I purge pulseaudio and just use alsa
[20:05] <DJJeff> it works fine
[20:05] <CryptoSiD> only software running is zn
[20:05] <CryptoSiD> znc*
[20:05] <DJJeff> alsa + flash = OK
[20:05] <CryptoSiD> and oidentd
[20:05] <DJJeff> pulse + flash = garbage
[20:06] <CryptoSiD> the sleep restart after 60 sec. its looping
[20:06] <CryptoSiD> or if i kill it
[20:06] <holstein> DJJeff: enjoy!.. cheers
[20:06] <DJJeff> by process of taking out pulse it would tell me that pulse is the problem
[20:06] <ki7mt> Well one of them, if not active may have a sleep instruction, but seing it's root doing the sleep, probably a system process that's idling or somthing.
[20:06] <DJJeff> and not flash
[20:06] <DJJeff> or skype
[20:06] <holstein> DJJeff: ok.. as i said, enjoy!.. if you have issues (as i do) with other flash content in alsa only, consider using the latest version of flash
[20:07] <DJJeff> but ubuntu + firefox = outdated flash
[20:07] <holstein> DJJeff: flash and skype are both factually not well supported in linux.. but, pulse actualy is well supported, and ships with most distros by defaul
[20:07] <DJJeff> ubuntu + chrome = pepper flash
[20:07] <plepzz> I think I broke google in search of how to make a bootable windows USB from the terminal - Can anyone in here might help me? :)
[20:08] <ki7mt> plepzz, I doubt seriously that you broke google.
[20:08] <WilsonMathew> ki7mt, beldar, bluefrog, I just connected to another network and it just worked from this OS ubuntu 14.04 lst
[20:09] <holstein> DJJeff: you can use the chrome pepperflash in chromium as well.. and if you need, later on, you can try that as a troubleshooting step.. otherwise, enjoy your system without pulse
[20:09] <plepzz> Me too, but it did sound good in my head :)
[20:09] <DJJeff> I want to be able to use firefox
[20:09] <DJJeff> I have issues with chrome
[20:09] <switchtehbeat> is there a way to reset ALL of ubuntu's settings and apps installed?
[20:09] <WilsonMathew> I ping it while connect to the other network that din't work and the output was "unknown host"
[20:09] <CryptoSiD> ki7mt its something in init.d
[20:09] <CryptoSiD> root@IPV6:/etc/init.d# cat * |grep "sleep 60"
[20:09] <CryptoSiD>         sleep 60 # probably enough time for desktop login
[20:09] <CryptoSiD> im just too noob to find the file
[20:09] <CryptoSiD> :D
[20:09] <WilsonMathew> I did "sudo ping google.com"
[20:09] <holstein> DJJeff: thats why you'll note i suggested it as a troubleshooting step and offered an alternative to chrome.. chromium
[20:10] <CryptoSiD> ok its init.d/ondemand
[20:10] <DJJeff> chromium is just the open source version of chrome?
[20:10] <ki7mt> CryptoSiD, That could be nay number if things, it's bascially just a pause or wwait stament, so if it's not causing you grief, I would worry much over it.
[20:10] <muonRULES> yeah i think
[20:11] <ki7mt> I would not worry about  .. ..
[20:11] <muonRULES> chrome is newer, get it from google
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> DJJeff  https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome <-- old article
[20:11] <ki7mt> Chrome is closed source, Chromium is the right choice for *Nix.
[20:11] <switchtehbeat> is there a way to reset ALL of ubuntu's settings and apps installed?
[20:12] <holstein> DJJeff: chromium runs the pepperflash.. if you dont want chrome.. and i dont care, nor am i suggesting its "better" or you shoud use it. im sugesting, if you havent tried the factually latest version of flash, consider throwing it in your troubleshooting routine..
[20:12] <muonRULES> but chrome works like a charm
[20:13] <ki7mt> switchtehbeat, that's a pretty broad question, have you bricked your box, or is an app not working correctly or something?
[20:13] <TJ-> Randy_O: ?
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> ki7mt  start from the beginning, what brings you here, what were you doing and what went wrong
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> oops switchtehbeat ^^^
[20:16] <SchrodingersScat> re-install does wonders for that
[20:16] <ki7mt> muonRULES, The advantage of Chromium over Chrome is, the Ubuntu dev's can taylor (update / modify) it to better integrate with the Desktop, Chrome, being closed source, they cannot.
[20:17] <bluezone> ki7mt, what is the package name for chromium?
[20:17] <TJ-> Randy_O: If you can get a listing on .200 of what avahi is seeing that may be useful: "avahi-browse -akrt"
[20:17] <ki7mt> bluezone, chromium-browser
[20:17] <holstein> !info chromium-browser
[20:18] <amit__>  sudo 3g_connect.sh ttyUSB0 this is the command I've to use to connect to my data card. Is there a way, I can connect to 3Gonly network. By default , its selecting 2G network
[20:19] <ki7mt> MonkeyDust, ?? all is good here, well unless you can solve some Python3 Numpy issues in 14.10 for me, F2PY wont accept -Wl- as-needed  :-)
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> ki7mt  solving world hunger sounds easier
[20:20] <ki7mt> Indeed
[20:20] <amit__>  sudo 3g_connect.sh ttyUSB0 this is the command I've to use to connect to my data card. Is there a way, I can connect to 3Gonly network. By default , its selecting 2G network
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> amit__  is that a generic .sh file? we cannot know what it does
[20:22] <amit__> MonkeyDust: this .sh file was in the data card only
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> amit__  better contact the vendor, then
[20:22] <holstein> amit__: we cant konw what its intended to do to support it
[20:23] <Protagonistics> how do you delete a route with an asterisk for a gateway? I have: sudo route del -host 25.14.168.24 netmask 255.255.255.255 gw "*" dev wlan0
[20:23] <amit__> This is intended to connect to network
[20:23] <Protagonistics> but all I get is *: unknown host
[20:24] <holstein> amit__: sure.. i mean, we are not responsible for having tested and integrating it into ubuntu or linux..
[20:24] <innocent95> Evening
[20:25] <innocent95> what is the solution for ubuntu black screeb on boot
[20:25] <holstein> !nomodeset
[20:25] <innocent95> s/screeb/screen
[20:25] <Beldar> innocent95, ^^^^
[20:26] <meek_geek> guys which disk utility apps work fine for ubuntu ?
[20:26] <ki7mt> Protagonistics, try adding default gw, sudo route del defaut gw .. .. ..
[20:26] <meek_geek> like mac has one
[20:26] <innocent95> not working for me
[20:26] <meek_geek> I cannot even format a sdcard by right click on it
[20:26] <Beldar> innocent95, Try nomodeset and address any graphic driver attempts or issues you may have had.
[20:26] <innocent95> when i press ctrl alt f1 i get the terminal
[20:27] <holstein> meek_geek: all work "Fine"
[20:27] <holstein> !format
[20:27] <Adlez> hi
[20:27] <holstein> meek_geek: i use gparted to format..
[20:27] <meek_geek> holstein, I want to format a SDcard
[20:27] <Adlez> how can I find 'preferences'?
[20:27] <Beldar> Adlez, In what?
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> Adlez  of what?
[20:27] <ki7mt> Adlez, prefs for what?
[20:27] <innocent95> Beldar: i tried nothing happening
[20:27] <ki7mt> LOL
[20:27] <Adlez> Beldar , for video
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> Adlez  which video player?
[20:28] <Adlez> I 'm trying to change video risolution
[20:28] <Beldar> innocent95, Tried what, be specific and detailed here. ;)
[20:28] <innocent95> Beldar: nomodeset
[20:28] <Adlez> MonkeyDust, on my pc
[20:28] <Beldar> innocent95, How about my second suggestion, E.g graphics
[20:29] <innocent95> Beldar: how can i do that
[20:29] <Adlez> Se qualcuno parla Italiano, non so come trovare dove sono le 'preferenze '
[20:29] <holstein> !nomodeset > innocent95
 innocent95, Try nomodeset and address any graphic driver attempts or issues you may have had. which means if you have done anything tell us.
[20:29] <Adlez> strano ma dal 'sistema' non le trovo
[20:31] <innocent95> holstein: i said i did this parameter and got nothing
[20:31] <ki7mt> Adlez, got to Dash >> Displays >> Select Resolution from the pull down
[20:31] <Beldar> innocent95, Really helpful info for is, fresh install? have you messed with graphics? a context.
[20:31] <ki7mt> got-to
[20:31] <innocent95> Beldar: No
[20:31] <Beldar> innocent95, So you have never been able to login?
[20:32] <innocent95> I was able
[20:32] <holstein> innocent95: you got "nothing"?
[20:32] <innocent95> holstein: the same prop
[20:32] <innocent95> prob*
[20:32] <holstein> innocent95: same prop?
[20:32] <Beldar> holstein, All yours man, time to shed here.
[20:32] <holstein> Beldar: cheers ;)
[20:32] <innocent95> same problem
[20:32] <innocent95> Beldar: is there any way to launch the graphical mode from the text mode
[20:33] <holstein> innocent95: you cant launch it from "nothing". is nomodeset getting you a text mode?
[20:33] <Beldar> innocent95, I have some other commitment at the moment, you have excellent help as of now. ;)
[20:34] <innocent95> holstein: No i am press ctrl alt f1 to get into the text mode
[20:35] <holstein> innocent95: i would install, and see if there are graphics drivers that would support my hardware.. i would even try the vesa driver.. i would try something like xubuntu that has no 3d requirements at first
[20:35] <holstein> !mini
[20:35] <nemo> So.  I'm trying to build cdfs-src
[20:35] <holstein> ^ you should be able to install that, no matter what support, and add desktops.. xubuntu-desktop
[20:35] <nemo> with mixed results
[20:36] <nemo> for one thing, was trying make prepare in /usr/src/linux and got "No rule to make target `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.11.0-22-generic/arch/x86/syscalls/syscall_32.tbl', needed by `arch/x86/syscalls/../include/generated/uapi/asm/unistd_32.h'"
[20:36] <innocent95> oh my god internet connection is too slow i am not gonna wait for that
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> nemo  try #ubuntu-app-devel
[20:36] <ki7mt> nemo, You need all the -dev packages installed.
[20:36] <holstein> innocent95: ok. let the volunteers know when you are ready to troubleshoot.. good luck!
[20:37] <nemo> MonkeyDust: thanks
[20:37] <innocent95> holstein: what do you mean
[20:37] <lionrouge> does anybody knows how to install ubuntu on a Lenovo notebook without breaking OneKey Rescue feature?
[20:37] <innocent95> Reinstalling ubuntu is the worst solution i have ever seen
[20:38] <magicalbanana> hey guys
[20:38] <holstein> innocent95: reinstalling? so, you have it installed? i read you were on a live CD
[20:38] <magicalbanana> question, i installed a program RoR) as root and now i can't access it unless I "su" first.
[20:38] <innocent95> no
[20:38] <magicalbanana> how will i give my regular user access to it?
[20:38] <innocent95> usb drive
[20:39] <holstein> innocent95: i was suggesting that you insatll the OS, then work with graphics support.. do you have the OS installed?
[20:39] <holstein> innocent95: if not, then, my suggestion is *not* to reinstall, but to install in the first place
[20:39] <innocent95> good
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> magicalbanana  chmod it
[20:39] <corntab> Can someone help me with this? My HDMI output was working fine until I installed AMD Catalyst Cont Centr and now even though my TV recognizes the HDMI there is no video signal going from my computer to the TV.
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> magicalbanana  or chown, rather
[20:39] <magicalbanana> how?
[20:39] <magicalbanana> like, i am trying to irb it.
[20:40] <innocent95> i belive that this problem has nothing to do with graphics
[20:40] <magicalbanana> i mean the command is "irb"
[20:40] <holstein> innocent95: i believe it does..
[20:40] <innocent95> why you are sure
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> magicalbanana  that's ruby?
[20:40] <magicalbanana> yep.
[20:40] <holstein> innocent95: im not.. im offering ways that you can move forward and confirm.. what graphics hardware do you have?
[20:41] <yoLo_> what would you guyd suggest ? make a logo first before company or make company and make logo ?
[20:41] <yoLo_> guys*
[20:41] <innocent95> i will do nomodeset aggain and see, holstein alright
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> magicalbanana  here in irc, type this to find the ruby channel     /msg alis list *ruby*   <-- with the asterisks
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[20:43] <teddyp1cker> hi all
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[20:44] <corntab> Hey guys anyone know how installing AMD Catalyst Magager could cause HDMI to malfunction?
[20:44] <teddyp1cker> can anyone help me to fix issue with skype 4.3 and ubuntu 14.04 ?
[20:45] <teddyp1cker> no sound in skype while any calls
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> teddyp1cker  if a non supported version of skype doesnt work and the supported one does, use the supported one
[20:47] <jlnr> Does anyone know if there is a way to make Ubuntu’s menu bar behave like the OS X one, e.g. make it always show the menu next to the application name (not just on hover)? On Google I only see instructions to disable the global menu altogether.
[20:47] <teddyp1cker> MonkeyDust: http://imgur.com/NIW4wu6 - i can't select any pulseaudio device
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> jlnr: you can make menus on the right click of items in the launcher, is that what you mean? They are called quicklists
[20:49] <newvirus> or get the suppported one free with torrent
[20:50] <pavlos> teddyp1cker, did audio work before you installed Skype?
[20:50] <jlnr> ActionParsnip: Hmm I don't think that's it :) I basically want the global menu bar to always look like when the mouse is hovering over it, e.g. "Terminal File Edit View..." instead of just "Terminal".
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> jlnr: oh i see. What is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[20:51] <teddyp1cker> pavlos: yes - it works everywhere except skype
[20:51] <jlnr> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> jlnr: give me a few
[20:52] <ki7mt> There's a qtmenu package you need to uninstall so the menu headers remain in place, I'd have to go dig it up.
[20:52] <jlnr> I don't want them inside the application windows (MS Windows style), even though that would do the trick as well. I just want to get rid of the mouse hover logic :)
[20:53] <pavlos> teddyp1cker, sudo killall pulseaudio, restart skype, select all defaults, test with skype test call
[20:53] <innocent95> holstein: purple screen after adding nomodeset doesnt want to go
[20:54] <bluefrog> jlnr, logically it's the default now in 14.04 if not mistaken
[20:54] <CrRaul> hello! Is necessary i use a firewall in linux?
[20:54] <Spami> Hello
[20:54] <jlnr> I have installed 14.04 from scratch and the menu items (File, Edit etc.) are not visible unless I hover over the menu
[20:55] <ki7mt> jlnr, try Dash  >> Appearence >> Behavior .. there's a couple setting there too
[20:55] <innocent95> purple screen after adding nomodeset doesnt want to go, what should i do to fix this problem
[20:55] <jlnr> Thanks
[20:55] <bluefrog> jlnr, oh yeah that's default.
[20:56] <Spami> I'm trying to run an aptitude update but I'm getting: 403  Forbidden
[20:56] <Spami> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f09880fc092813f8fe93
[20:56] <jlnr> Oh wow, Appearance lets me move the menu back into the app windows, but it still has the hover effect. /o\
[20:56] <Spami> Any idea why ?
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> jlnr: ki7mt beat me to it (i had to search the web. I don't use Unity)
[20:56] <holstein> innocent95: to go where?
[20:56] <lionrouge> please help
[20:56] <Thermo> I am trying to run an autogen.sh script in order to install mysql-proxy on Ubuntu 14.04. But I'm running into this error:
[20:56] <Thermo> configure.ac:58: error: automatic de-ANSI-fication support has been removed
[20:56] <Thermo> configure.ac:58: the top level
[20:56] <Thermo> autom4te: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1
[20:56] <Thermo> aclocal: error: echo failed with exit status: 1
[20:56] <innocent95> holstein: to go Ubuntu
[20:56] <holstein> innocent95: what graphics hardware are you using?
[20:57] <Thermo> Any idea what automatic de-ANSI-fication is referring to?
[20:57] <innocent95> holstein: do you have a command to get that
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> lionrouge: what is your issue
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> Thermo: does the web not give any clues?
[20:57] <lionrouge> ActionParsnip: i need to install Ubuntu on a Lenovo notebook
[20:57] <lionrouge> but i don't want to break OneKey Rescue system
[20:58] <holstein> innocent95: i use lspci in the terminal that you said you could get to? though, if you are getting "nothing" that is a different issue..
[20:58] <lionrouge> maybe there is anyone here familiar with this
[20:58] <Thermo> There was one kernel of possibly useful information I found. It involved installing an older version of automake. Currently I'm using version 1.14, and it said to install 1.10.
[20:58] <ki7mt> Thermo, you have autoconf and autools-dev installed?
[20:58] <holstein> lionrouge: backup all of that.. before proceeding.. assume you *did* break it
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> lionrouge: grab ISO, MD5 test the ISO, resize your NTFS partition in Windows then burn the ISO to CD or use unetbootin to make a bootable USB. Boot to media, install OS to freed space
[20:58] <Thermo> However, I cannot seem to do that using apt-get, because no where can I find a version older than 1.14.
[20:59] <Thermo> ki7mt: I will try to install autoconf and autools-dev, and get back to you.
[20:59] <lionrouge> ActionParsnip, holstein thanks for advice
[20:59] <innocent95> holstein: Inter Corporation mobile915Gm/............
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> Thermo: what are you compiling?
[20:59] <teddyp1cker> pavlos: unfortunately i can't still select pulseaudio default device - there is only "virtual device" in skype settings now
[20:59] <innocent95> etc
[20:59] <Thermo> ki7mt: Both are already installed and up to date.
[20:59] <ki7mt> Thermo, I got a similar error uin pbuilder, ended up being an automake version issue.
[20:59] <innocent95> holstein: should i give the full name
[20:59] <holstein> innocent95: intel is usuallly well supported.. did you confirm the iso?
[20:59] <Thermo> I'm trying to build mysql-proxy.
[20:59] <holstein> !md5 | innocent95
[21:00] <Thermo> The download documentation I'm using is located here:
[21:00] <Thermo> https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.6/en/mysql-proxy-install-cvs.html
[21:00] <ikonia> Thermo: isn't there an official ubuntu package ?
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> Thermo: and what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[21:00] <ikonia> I'm sure I've seen one
[21:00] <innocent95> holstein: I was working well with this ubuntu this evening ... why should confirm the iso now
[21:01] <ki7mt> Thermo, I think v1.10 was ok, but 1.13 required de-ANSI-fication
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> !info mysql-proxy
[21:01] <ikonia> yeah, I thought I'd seen one
[21:01] <innocent95> holstein: i was using this ubuntu for two years
[21:01] <innocent95> and today boohm
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> Thermo: its in the universe repo...
[21:01] <ki7mt> Thermo, however, I dont get the error with automake 1.14.1 which is the latests on 14.04
[21:01] <pavlos> teddyp1cker, what ubuntu release 1404?
[21:02] <holstein> innocent95: did you upgrade? what version of ubuntu is this? *all* drives fail, have you tested that one?..
[21:02] <innocent95> 12.04
[21:02] <Spami> anyone else is having issues running aptitude update ?
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> Thermo: the output of: cat /etc/issue ,is one line so no need to pastebin
[21:02] <ikonia> Spami: tell us your issue
[21:02] <Spami> ikonia, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f09880fc092813f8fe93
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> Spami: is apt-get ok?
[21:03] <innocent95> holstein: what to test
[21:03] <pavlos> teddyp1cker, this may help ... http://www.webupd8.org/2014/06/skype-43-for-linux-released-with.html
[21:03] <ikonia> Spami: that's an install - not an upgrade
[21:03] <Spami> a yes my bad
[21:03] <thebalu> hi all! I have a problem with my elantech touchpad on elementary os (based on ubuntu), I don't know if this is a good place to ask for help?
[21:03] <teddyp1cker> pavlos: http://sprunge.us/TeGZ
[21:03] <ikonia> Spami: also it's a 403 error on that repo
[21:03] <ikonia> so update first to get the right cache, then try again
[21:04] <teddyp1cker> pavlos: http://sprunge.us/DDVj
[21:04] <innocent95> holstein: ...
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> Spami: quantal is eol https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[21:04] <genii> thebalu: Their support channel is #elementary
[21:04] <Thermo> The output of cat /etc/issue is:
[21:04] <Thermo> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[21:04] <Spami> What does eol mean ?
[21:04] <genii> Spami: End Of Life
[21:04] <thebalu> genii: thanks i'll go there
[21:05] <ki7mt> Thermo, what is your automake version: automake --version
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> Thermo: then instal from the universe repo. Job done
[21:05] <Thermo> ubottu: Thanks for that, though what is the universe repo, and how do I make apt-get grab from there?
[21:05] <pavlos> teddyp1cker, thanks ... I sent you a link, it may help.
[21:05] <innocent95> holstein: Please tell me when you decide to stop helping me alright
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Thermo: you can enable sources using software centre
[21:06] <Spami> ActionParsnip, so that mean it's impossible reach the server, it's not maintain anymore for this version ?
[21:06] <teddyp1cker> pavlos: thank you
[21:06] <holstein> innocent95: ?
[21:06] <ki7mt> Even if he uses the repo version, should report that bug, as that's an issue that was supposedly fix
[21:06] <innocent95> holstein: i dont know i thought you left me
[21:06] <ki7mt> s/fixed/fix/
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Spami: id imagine they disabled the source as the version of ubuntu you have is no longer supported in any way
[21:06] <holstein> innocent95: its an open channel, friend.. you just ask, with details, and as much patience as you can find.. i understand you are frustrated.. what is the issue?
[21:07] <Thermo> ki7mt: I will gladly report it, but how do I report that accurately so the devs can fix it?
[21:07] <holstein> innocent95: you have an installation on a USB drive? or 12.04? and you literally just booted today and you have a black screen? did you do updates? anything?
[21:07] <innocent95> I am very tired
[21:07] <Thermo> ActionParsnip: I sshing into an external server, and so I don't have the GUI for Ubuntu. I don't know how to access the software center without the Ubuntu GUi.
[21:07] <holstein> innocent95: when i said" test the drive" earlier, i was referring to testing the drive the operating system in question is installed onto
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> Thermo: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:08] <ki7mt> Thermo, Build it as you did before, the post the error message, and the package version of the dependencies the MySql Proxy page states.
[21:08] <das> hello all
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> Thermo: replace vi with your favorite text editor
[21:08] <das> i've install nvidia proprietary drivers and now i'm in low graphic mode
[21:09] <das> how can i return back, to desktop mode i mean
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> Thermo: find lines with universe on that are repo lines and uncomment it, save the new file and run: sudo apt-get update
[21:09] <das> i have an nvidia ge force gt 540m
[21:09] <innocent95> holstein: i think that i pulled the electric wire without closing it properly, this is the only thing that i can remember
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> Das: and an intel gpu too, in a laptop?
[21:09] <innocent95> and i installed kivy today
[21:09] <das> yes
[21:09] <holstein> innocent95: you think? did you? or not? killing power to drives likek that (regardless of operating system) can cause breakage, and filesystem corruption.. is that what happened?
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Das: then you have a switching gpu. Look into nvidia prime or bumblebee
[21:10] <innocent95> holstein: Yes
[21:10] <holstein> !fsck | innocent95
[21:10] <das> i have installed bumblebee
[21:10] <Thermo> ActionParnsip: This is the what is in sources.list:
[21:10] <das> how can i switch ?
[21:10] <Thermo> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main
[21:10] <Thermo> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-updates main
[21:10] <Thermo> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security main
[21:10] <Thermo> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty universe
[21:10] <Thermo> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-updates universe
[21:10] <unopaste> Thermo you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[21:10] <jonyfive> hello, does anyone know if there is a way to get compiz to stay in "scale" mode without holding down the button/key command?
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Das: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[21:10] <innocent95> alright
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Thermo: pastebin for multiple lines.
[21:11] <das> is Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \1
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> Thermo: then run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install mysql-proxy
[21:11] <scri66le> #git
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> Das: look at nvidia-prime instead
[21:12] <das> i don't understand
[21:12] <das> what i should to do ?
[21:13] <das> i've already done this commands "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Das: why?
[21:14] <das> than it return to desktop mode, but when i fill admin and pasword then it go in stall
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Das: that PPA is notoriously unstable and extremely experimental
[21:14] <das> because i think the problem is nvidia driver
[21:15] <innocent95> holstein: i did a file check and now the black screen comeback$
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Das: no, you have optimus junk which needs supporting with extra stuff than just an nvidia driver
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Das: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/using-nvidia-graphics-drivers-with.html
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Das: i suggest you remove the ppa and the nvidia driver.
[21:16] <Thermo> ActionParnsip: Thank you!! I have spent several hours trying to build mysql-proxy myself, and this installed it. I can't believe that on the MySQL website they don't let you know that you can download it from Ubuntu's package manager.
[21:16] <das> how can i remove it ?
[21:17] <innocent95> holstein: what do you think
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> Das: use ppa-purge
[21:17] <das> how ?
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> Das: install it, then use the same address you used to add it.
[21:18] <das> sudo apt-add ppa-purge this is the command ?
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> Das: you used the web to find out how to add the PPA but can't use it to find out how to remove it....seems weird don't you think?
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> Das: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[21:18] <das> tnx
[21:18] <das> now i'm on another pc
[21:19] <das> the pc with ubuntu is near me now
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> Das: please dont add PPAs when you dont know what they are and arent sure its a fix
[21:19] <das> i newbie
[21:19] <das> patience with me please :D
[21:19] <das> ok
[21:19] <innocent95> holstein
[21:19] <das> i've installed purge
[21:19] <das> now ?
[21:20] <das> ppa-purge sorry
[21:20] <holstein> innocent95: what else did you do?
[21:20] <holstein> innocent95: you say you installed some things.. did you upgrade? or not?
[21:20] <innocent95> holstein: i upgraded python
[21:21] <holstein> innocent95: and? what else? what*all*, friend?
[21:21] <innocent95> holstein: i installed kivy
[21:21] <holstein> innocent95: ok. so, something you did broke your system.. start working backwards..
[21:21] <tarball_13> Anyone know why mh HDMI stopped working after I installed AMD Catalyst Mangr?
[21:22] <holstein> innocent95: did you add ppa's for that?
[21:22] <innocent95> holstein: i have upgrades waiting, my computer is too slow i am afraid of installing these
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> Das: sudo ppa-purge ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[21:22] <innocent95> holstein: Yeah i added ppa
[21:22] <ki7mt> Thermo, before you leave, what version of automake were you using / building with?
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> Das: just like the add-apt-repository uses the ppa address, so does ppa-purge
[21:23] <holstein> innocent95: so, *any* 3rd party source like that can break your system, as the warning points out.. you can also try the ppa-purge commmand ActionParsnip is talking about
[21:23] <holstein> !info ppa-purge
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> Ppa-purge isnt perfect but its not bad
[21:24] <ki7mt> use y-ppa-manager, it's a very good PPA manager
[21:24] <holstein> innocent95: i would backup my data first thing... then, i would either just fresh install 14.04, or start with purging 3rd party sources and getting sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to work with 12.04
[21:24] <innocent95> holstein: sudo apt-get purge
[21:24] <holstein> innocent95: no.. ppa-purge specifically
[21:25] <das> W: failed  to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/it.archive.bubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-ipdates_main_source_Sources Hash Sum mismatch
[21:25] <das> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead-
[21:25] <das> Warning: apt-get update failed for some reason
[21:26] <das> this is the output
[21:26] <coolxcv> I'm having issues using an external WiFi adapter (TP-link; linux compatible) within a virtual machine. It won't recognize it :( you guys know if it's a virtualbox issue or it's not supported anywhere
[21:27] <derEremit> i think the new kernel in utopic broke unity on intel cards
[21:27] <histo> coolxcv: did you set up a usb filter for it?
[21:27] <histo> derEremit: try /j #ubuntu+1
[21:27] <derEremit> ok, thanx
 usb filter... nope bro did not see that option in Virtual Box
[21:27] <coolxcv> gonna recheck now
[21:27] <Thermo> ki7mt: the output of running "automake --version" is located here:
[21:28] <Thermo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7692278/
[21:28] <Beldar> coolxcv, What is the host OS?
[21:28] <coolxcv> I tried ubuntu on it
[21:28] <histo> coolxcv: Stop the guest, go to setttings > usb.  click the add usb filter. You need to add the tp link to that screen so it gets passed through to the guest.
[21:29] <histo> coolxcv: also your user needs to be part of the vboxusers group
[21:29] <Beldar> coolxcv, The hist is the OS you are running vbox in, what is it?
[21:29] <coolxcv> vboxuser group ?
[21:29] <ki7mt> Thermo, Ok, thanks.
[21:29] <Beldar> host*
[21:29] <innocent95> holstein: i need three days to download the 14.04; does it work for me 1gb of ram
[21:29] <coolxcv> ohhh that's for linux usergroup thingy
[21:29] <coolxcv> kk
[21:29] <coolxcv> I get it
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: xubuntu or lubuntu will use less ram
[21:29] <coolxcv> ok, going to remake the VM since I deleted it thinking it was corrupt
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> innocent95: a stick of ram is cheap dude.
[21:30] <Deihmos> 1gb ram lol
[21:30] <Deihmos> i had that back in 2000
[21:30] <innocent95> ActionParsnip: not in my country dude
[21:30] <Ethos> 2gb ram is required
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> Deihmos: depends what the system does to how much ram is needed :-)
[21:31] <innocent95> ActionParsnip: if you are able to give me one then do
[21:31] <Ethos> 1gb ram for ubuntu servers
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> Ethos: not for lubuntu
[21:31] <Ethos> ah
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> !requirements
[21:31] <coolxcv2> Oh my saw it! it's a tiny button to the right
[21:31] <coolxcv2> heheh you guys are awesome
[21:31] <histo> coolxcv2: http://dlc.sun.com.edgesuite.net/virtualbox/4.3.12/UserManual.pdf
[21:31] <coolxcv2> thanks :D
[21:32] <Ethos> How do I install vsti plugin for ardour?
[21:32] <cynicallemon> i have a ubuntu vps and that runs mail and web services on 256MB
[21:32] <holstein> innocent95: i understand, again, your frustration, friend.. thats why i listed the second option.. about how to address your 12.04 installation
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> cynicallemon: exactly :-)
[21:32] <cynicallemon> and it runs well
[21:33] <innocent95> alright
[21:33] <histo> Inc`: stick with 32bit verson, and i'd recommend xubuntu or lubuntu
[21:33] <DJJeff> gconftool-2 --set /apps/nautilus/preferences/media_automount --type bool false
[21:33] <histo> Inc`: sorry wrong nick
[21:33] <DJJeff> is there anything else I need to look for to disable auto mount?
[21:33] <k1l> cynicallemon: servers have different ram usage than desktops.
[21:34] <fishcooker> is it OK to upgrade from 10.04.4 directly to the latest 14.04?
[21:34] <histo> DJJeff: why are you disabling automount?
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: you will need to upgrade to 12.04 first
[21:34] <k1l> fishcooker: no
[21:34] <cynicallemon> k1l, yes i know this
[21:34] <DJJeff> histo, please do not ask why, please just tell me if I need to look for something else
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: LTS to the next LTS to the next LTS
[21:35] <hockeybum> fishcooker - I have heard that the 14.04 release meant to use as an upgrade to 12.04 will be out July 27
[21:35] <Ethos> DJJeff: enable it firstly
[21:35] <cynicallemon> all depends on what you need, that dictates RAM used
[21:35] <das> i made this commands ActionParsnip sudo apt-get purge bumblebee* && sudo apt-get purge libvdpau-va-gl1 && sudo apt-get purge libvdpau-va-gl1
[21:35] <DJJeff> bool true then bool false?
[21:35] <das> sudo apt-get install nvidia-319 nvidia-settings-319 nvidia-prime
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: you'll get a cleaner OS and faster with a clean install of Trusty from CD then restore user data from backup
[21:35] <Ethos> DJJeff: right :>
[21:35] <histo> DJJeff: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem
[21:35] <holstein> DJJeff: in main ubuntu 14.04? with unity?
[21:35] <hockeybum> I want to upgrade to 14.04 but after reading about issues using the current version, and hearing that one you can use via the Software Updater, I held off
[21:35] <ki7mt> DJJeff, if you really want to make sure it doesn't happen, create a udev rule, with something like: SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ENV{UDISKS_AUTO}="0" for USB mounts
[21:36] <histo> ActionParsnip: lts > lts is supported
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> Das: ok then reboot
[21:36] <das> ok
[21:36] <Ethos> if anyone is missing t heir sound-indicator, sudo apt-get install sound-indicator; sound-indicator
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> histo: yes, but it goes to the next lts
[21:36] <das> i will tell you what will happen
[21:36] <DJJeff> where do I put udev rules?
[21:36] <histo> ActionParsnip: wha?
[21:36] <Ethos> you can put them on startup
[21:36] <histo> fishcooker: you go LTS > LTS
[21:37] <histo> !upgrade | fishcooker
[21:37] <fishcooker> is "apt-get update && apt-get -y upgrade" or just do magic "do-release-upgrade" ActionParsnip histo?
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> histo: fishcooker has lucid, so will need to upgrade to precise first
[21:37] <ki7mt> DJJeff, sudo touch /etc/udev/rules.d/80-no-autom.rules
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: sounds fine
[21:37] <histo> fishcooker: use do-release-ugprade   read the directions from ubottu  for how to upgrade
[21:37] <fishcooker> will report later
[21:37] <histo> DJJeff: /etc/udev/rules.d/
[21:37] <hockeybum> @AP - yes correct - but I've heard that 'upgrade' is not recommended - better to do a' fresh install' or wait for the version 7/27
[21:38] <ki7mt> DJJeff, then add that line, you'll need to reboot to take affect.
[21:38] <Ethos> hockeybum: that is correct.
[21:38] <jphilipz> anyone know how to get in touch with the ubuntu.com website team
[21:39] <das> i fill my user and password
[21:39] <hockeybum> thank you Ethos
[21:39] <das> it get in
[21:39] <das> but
[21:39] <das> it give me an error
[21:40] <das> don't work ActionParsnip
[21:40] <das> system program problem says me
[21:41] <Ethos> hockeybum: np :>
[21:42] <DJJeff> ki7mt, I thought only windows needed to reboot to make changes
[21:42] <histo> das: what error did you get?  and stop using the enter key, respond in one line.
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> DJJeff: you do to load a new kernel. You can get around that with ksplaice too
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> Ksplice*
[21:44] <das> it says only system program promeb, i can move only the mouse, the bar of unity on the left there isn't, i see only the folders on the desktop so big, but i vcan't select them
[21:44] <Randy_O> Anyone have any experience repairing server ports? I have a server that can't connect or be connected to over port 80. I have apache2 running and had an http proxy running, removing the proxy broke the server.
[21:45] <psusi> DJJeff, you cna make changes just fine but to actually start using the new program, you have to restart that program.  In the case of the kernel, that means rebooting
[21:45] <ki7mt> DJJeff, not when your dealing with boot time services like that. SOme Udev itmes can be set, but not things like that.
[21:45] <DJJeff> I will just use my laptop because I do not mind if I reboot it
[21:45] <DJJeff> I have alot of unsaved work on my desktop
[21:46] <DJJeff> and in a bunch of xchat channels which I do not want to loose
[21:47] <histo> das: what is your native language?
[21:47] <das> itlaian
[21:47] <das> italian
[21:47] <histo> Randy_O: /join #ubuntu-server
[21:47] <histo> !it | das
[21:47] <das> my english is bad i know
[21:48] <das> join #ubuntu-it
[21:48] <ki7mt> DJJeff, my xchat saves the history of the channels I log into, there may be a setting for it, not sure.
[21:48] <histo> das:  add a / <<<   so /join #ubuntu-it
[21:49] <cynicallemon> ~/.xchat2 is where xchat stores all its stuff
[21:49] <ki7mt> DJJeff, it's in prefs, enable scrollback and logging to disk
[21:50] <histo> DJJeff: this channel is logged online as well.
[21:51] <histo> !nsa | DJJeff
[21:51] <ki7mt> Oh, yeah, forgot about that too.
[21:51] <seekr> quick question:  where in the heck are the installation instructions!?
[21:51] <histo> !install | seekr
[21:51] <ki7mt> seekr, for what?
[21:52] <seekr> ubottu: thanks, bot
[21:54] <DJJeff> tested on my laptop that udev rule does not work
[21:55] <ki7mt> wow, can you imagine installing from floppy disks :-) haven't had an FDD for years now.
[21:55] <DJJeff> in /var/log/syslog it says "udisksd" mounted it
[21:55] <histo> seekr: what are you trying to install?
[21:56] <histo> DJJeff: dpkg -l | grep udisk
[21:57] <DJJeff> found the same question finally
[21:57] <DJJeff> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/85061/automount-not-disabling-in-ubuntu-12-04-or-13-04
[21:57] <fishcooker> my locale-gen have 2 languages installed.. for some reason i want only one language enabled .. how to?
[21:57] <DJJeff> ii  udisks2
[21:57] <ki7mt> DJJeff, should have, but here's another method: http://askubuntu.com/questions/301122/prevent-a-specific-usb-device-from-auto-mounting
[21:58] <histo> DJJeff: Perhaps there is a better way to accomplish your 'end goal'. Why are you disabling automount?
[21:58] <DJJeff> because I am trying to 'ddrescue' a damaged USB Storage
[21:58] <ornj> The letters on my keyboard stopped working after I tried to F11 in Firefox... but things like Enter still work
[21:58] <DJJeff> but ubuntu keeps wanting to 'automount' it
[21:58] <DJJeff> which is preventing me from doing a 'ddrescue'
[21:59] <ornj> and I just opened up XChat and they keyboard works fine in that, and I could type in the Terminal window, as well.
[21:59] <cynicallemon> fishcooker, look at localepurge package
[21:59] <ornj> But if I Alt-Ctrl-F2'd, I couldn't type at the login screen there.
[21:59] <histo> DJJeff: how is the automount prevening you from ddrescue?
[21:59] <DJJeff> sudo udevadm control --reload-rules ?
[22:00] <yoLo_> does any of you own a website ?
[22:00] <DJJeff> histo, if I knew the answer to that, why would I ask?
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> DJJeff: just unmount it and you can ddrescue away
[22:00] <histo> DJJeff: also you can mount -o remount,ro
[22:00] <Beldar> !ot | yoLo_
[22:01] <RLW980> I keep on getting this when I'm trying to install a tar.gz file: Installing with make install...  [22:01] <ki7mt> DJJeff, yeah ActionParsnip said, if your booted, umount the device
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> Doesnt ddrescue need it unmpunted....
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> Unmounted*
[22:01] <RLW980> ActionParsnip: hey there lol, help me
[22:01] <histo> DJJeff: or you could even unmount it since you don't need it mounted to ddrescue
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> RLW980: wassup
[22:01] <RLW980> ActionParsnip: Installing with make install...  [22:01] <ki7mt> RLW980, That's because a tar.gz file is not a makefile, it's a compressed archive.
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> RLW980: what are you compiling?
[22:01] <histo> ActionParsnip: I don't think it should care, it just access the device file regardless
[22:02] <RLW980> ki7mt: how to install it then
[22:02] <bekks> RLW980: can you pastebin the entire output, including the command you are using?
[22:02] <RLW980> ActionParsnip: software Ac
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> histo: but file changes may cause issue. Ive only used it on unmounted stuff before so cant really comment fully
[22:02] <RLW980> bekks: ok bekks :D
[22:02] <bekks> RLW980: and caan you tell us what you are trying to compile there?
[22:02] <histo> RLW980: what package?
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> RLW980: yes but what software are you compiling?
[22:03] <histo> ActionParsnip: yeah the device should be umounted or mounted ro before any data recovery is even attempted.
[22:03] <RLW980> bekks: ok
[22:03] <RLW980> histo: liveusb-creator-3.11.8
[22:03] <histo> RLW980: isn't that unetbootin?
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> RLW980: why? Its in the repos....its even part of a default install
[22:03] <RLW980> histo: no
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> histo: all filesystems will be mounted or unmounted. Those are the only 2 states
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> !info usb-creator-gtk
[22:04] <histo> ActionParsnip: yes
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> RLW980: tried that?
[22:05] <histo> ActionParsnip: you missread my comment the 'ro' part
[22:05] <RLW980> ActionParsnip: But can that software burn Windwos though
[22:05] <histo> DJJeff: Now do you see why I asked you why in the first place?
[22:05] <Jordan_U> RLW980: What is your end goal?
[22:05] <histo> DJJeff: the xy problem.
[22:06] <RLW980> Jordan_U: to install Windos
[22:06] <RLW980> *W
[22:06] <DJJeff> finally got it to stop auto mounting on my laptop
[22:06] <seekr> histo: longish story - just a sec...
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> RLW980: no burning takes place when you make a bootable USB.
[22:06] <DJJeff> new problem of Sense Key : No Sense [current]
[22:07] <RLW980> zLOL
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> RLW980: if you format the USB storage to NTFS first, I believe unetbootin can make a bootable USB installer for Windows CDs
[22:07] <RLW980> ActionParsnip: i'LL DO ANYTHING TO GET wINDOWS BACK
[22:07] <histo> RLW980: well you'd have to mount the windows iso. copy the files to a fat32 formatted usb
[22:07] <histo> RLW980: no need for liveusb-creator
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> RLW980: you do realize why you 'burn' a CD, right?
[22:08] <seekr> histo: I just want a system for temporary purposes for the time being that can handle my flaky mobo, which will not support graphics mode and a 3TB external drive that I plan to use to reconfigure an internal drive and to move some files from a laptop
[22:09] <seekr> histo: I have to do the install in a text-only mode
[22:09] <histo> seekr: you could move all the files from the livecd
[22:09] <Jordan_U> RLW980: liveusb-creator doesn't seem to have any support for making bootable Windows install images. I think you misinterpreted "Windows support", which means that it supports creating GNU/Linux LiveUSBs from a Windows machine, not visa-versa.
[22:09] <histo> seekr: then you need to use the mini.iso or the server.iso to install in cli mode
[22:09] <tortib> Hello!  If I have a HDD that is being shared with samba and the HDD is NTFS will I be able to copy files that were on a HFS file system?
[22:10] <seekr> I'm a bit afraid of doing the installation, since I don't want anything presently on the machine to get overwritten - I have a few 30 GB partitions on an internal 3TB drive where I can put ubuntu
[22:10] <histo> tortib: yes
[22:10] <tortib> histo: awesome, thanks!
[22:10] <tortib> histo: you're awesome too! :D
[22:10] <histo> seekr: use a livecd then
[22:10] <seekr> histo: ^^
[22:10] <tortib> histo++
[22:10] <RLW980> ActionParsnip: I'll do your idea first then I shall do then histo: THEN your idea as 2nd lol
[22:10] <seekr> I'm copying the ISO I downloaded onto a 1BG thumb drive
[22:10] <histo> seekr: or install ubuntu to a flash drive in cli mode.
[22:10] <Jordan_U> tortib: Yes, though permissions and other special attributs of files may be lost (usually that's not important with documents/pictures/ most user files).
[22:11] <histo> seekr: which iso?  and you don't copy it to usb.  You write it there using dd or one of the various usb creator tools
[22:11] <seekr> histo: I'd like to add the ubuntu info to an existing GRUB config file
[22:11] <tortib> Jordan_U: Yeah that won't be a problem.  Love samba though.
[22:11] <tortib> Been years since i've used it and now my new router has it built in with 2 USB ports :D
[22:11] <seekr> histo: yes, I'm using dd
[22:11] <tortib> I ordered a 2TB WD Passport to hook up to it :D
[22:11] <seekr> histo: I d/l'd the desktop installer
[22:12] <histo> seekr: K, if you want cli only on usb you'd be better off using debootstrap or installing there from the mini.iso
[22:12] <seekr> histo: hmm
[22:13] <seekr> histo: The machine has no net access - though I do have a USB wifi dongle that could be used if I can configure it in non-graphical mode
[22:13] <histo> seekr: I don't understand why you can't just use the desktop iso though.
[22:13] <seekr> histo: that's my current plan
[22:13] <histo> seekr: you should be good to go then.
[22:13] <seekr> histo: I downloaded the desktop system iso and am now dd'ing it to a 1GB USB flash drive
[22:13] <histo> seekr: For future reference you can configure wifi from cli.
[22:14] <seekr> histo: that's good - I'll do it if I can get help or a good how-to
[22:14] <histo> You can do just about everything from cli
[22:14] <seekr> histo: great!!
[22:15] <seekr> histo: looks as if the dd completed - the install will not be on the machine I'm using now, so if I can ask questions as I go along if there are problems, I'd be most grateful
[22:15] <histo> yeah, fire away seekr
[22:16] <seekr> histo: I guess the ISO is mountable - for purposes of poking around
[22:16] <GEEGEEGEE> I cant get my network cards to work. They are both RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controllers. I have set addresses on them and the default gateway, but I am unable to ping ANY address on the network.
[22:16] <GEEGEEGEE> I get "Destination host is unreachable", or a error about the buffers being full.
[22:17] <seekr> histo: yeah - I mounted it with "-o ro" and it looks ok!
[22:18] <histo> GEEGEEGEE: what is the output of ip route
[22:18] <histo> seekr: mounted what?
[22:18] <RLW980> histo: Your idea didn't work nether did ActionParsnip
[22:19] <histo> RLW980: What idea?
[22:19] <seekr> histo: I mounted the filesystem that was copied onto the flash drive via dd from the installation ISO - mounted it read-only, just so I didn't mess it up
[22:19] <GEEGEEGEE> histo, http://pastebin.com/H8zAV03K
[22:20] <seekr> histo: I've unmounted it now, so I can try the install on the other machine
[22:20] <histo> GEEGEEGEE: can you ping the gateway or 8.8.8.8 also?
[22:20] <GEEGEEGEE> no, I cant ping any address at all
[22:21] <GEEGEEGEE> ive checked all the cables and switches and they are all working with other computers
[22:21] <histo> GEEGEEGEE: how did you set addresses?
[22:21] <histo> GEEGEEGEE: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[22:21] <GEEGEEGEE> in /etc/network/interfaces
[22:21] <RLW980> histo: format the USB to an FAT32 and the copy and paste content from .iso filew to the USB
[22:21] <histo> RLW980: what version of windows?
[22:22] <histo> RLW980: and did you make sure the partition is set as bootable
[22:22] <histo> RLW980: sudo cfdisk /dev/of/your/usb   and make sure it's marked as bootable
[22:22] <RLW980> histo: WINDOWS 7
[22:23] <RLW980> histo: AMD YES
[22:23] <GEEGEEGEE> histo, here http://pastebin.com/ucMcxvST
[22:23] <histo> GEEGEEGEE: and if you ping 192.168.0.1  ?? unreachable?
[22:24] <GEEGEEGEE> yeah
[22:24] <histo> have to go brb
[22:26] <solidus-river> hey all, how do i force a new dhcp lease for a box
[22:26] <Beldar> RLW980, Have you tried http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html For a extract I have used a ntfs with a boot flag and extract with disc image mounter to open the iso.
[22:27] <cynicallemon> solidus-river, try dhclient?
[22:27] <solidus-river> aye
[22:28] <Bashing-om> solidus-river: Maybe as -> sudo dhclient <ath0> <- where ath0 is the device name .
[22:29] <cynicallemon> if it's a new (different) ip address you're after then you may have to delete the entry for your machine on the dhcp server itself
[22:36] <solidus-river> cynicallemon: Bashing-om thanks, yeha i'm tyring to work on a virtual box hiccup that happened
[22:40] <histo> GEEGEEGEE: I'm back any luck?
[22:40] <GEEGEEGEE> no, still not working ;(
[22:41] <histo> GEEGEEGEE: is 192.168.0.0/24 your actual network range?
[22:41] <GEEGEEGEE> yeah
[22:41] <cynicallemon> solidus-river, if you're using the default dhcp server within virtualbox then I seem to remember that being on 10.0.2.2 so if you're having connectivity issue you could statically assign an address to your machine on that 10.0.2.0 network
[22:41] <solidus-river> yeah, its wierd, i have 5 guests that work fine
[22:42] <solidus-river> but one of them refuses to obtain an ip address or accept incoming ssh connections
[22:42] <cynicallemon> solidus-river, Ive had issues with dynamic addresses before with virtualbox
[22:42] <histo> GEEGEEGEE: is the link light active on the card and the switch?
[22:42] <solidus-river> cynicallemon: what was the solution?
[22:43] <GEEGEEGEE> histo, the lights are on, but not flashing as thye should
[22:43] <histo> GEEGEEGEE: do you have a dhcp server on the network?
[22:43] <YaMoonSun> Which distro would you suggest for a netbook with an atom processor and 8GB 5400RPM hdd?
[22:43] <GEEGEEGEE> yeah but i was unable to get an address from that
[22:44] <cynicallemon> solidus-river, as i said, assign a static ip in the range virtualbox hands out
[22:44] <solidus-river> cynicallemon: well right now virtual box wont assign an ip to any new host sucesfully
[22:44] <solidus-river> its stuck on configure virtual network devices
[22:44] <histo> GEEGEEGEE: does anything work on this network?
[22:45] <Beldar> YaMoonSun, Uh not a ubuntu support question, and guess what would be suggested here.
[22:45] <GEEGEEGEE> yes i have 3 other computers on it all are working fine
[22:45] <GEEGEEGEE> its just this one that wont work after I installed ubuntu server on it
[22:46] <histo> GEEGEEGEE: what chipset was this again?
[22:46] <cynicallemon> solidus-river, i have found on occasions that changing the network card type on the vm clears the issue
[22:46] <GEEGEEGEE> RTL8111
[22:46] <seekr> hi, histo - I just get a flashing cursor when I try to boot from the usb drive - I have "hard disk" selected just behind "cd-rom" - and the usb stick, which is recognised, is shown as the first of the five drives - guess i should go 'round back and see if the led flashes on the usb stick at boot time
[22:47] <solidus-river> cynicallemon: hmm, i'll try that its time for me to get home, i have driving duties today so i get to go enjoy traffic
[22:47] <solidus-river> cynicallemon: thanks for the pointers!
[22:47] <Beldar> !nomodeset | seekr try this
[22:47] <seekr> i have a bad dvd drive on this machine, but I may have to resort to booting back into debian on the other one, and burn the installer onto a dvd disk
[22:48] <Beldar> seekr, Just noticed you were asking another, my mistake.
[22:48] <seekr> Beldar: thanks
[22:48] <seekr> Beldar: ok
[22:49] <seekr> Beldar: you mean I'm asking another question or another person?
[22:50] <Beldar> seekr, Another person, I would try the nomodeset option
[22:50] <histo> GEEGEEGEE: can you ping yourself?
[22:50] <seekr> Beldar: I doubt that's the problem - I do see a flashing cursor - just have to find out whether the usb stick is being addressed
[22:51] <GEEGEEGEE> yes histo
[22:51] <Sunstream> Anyone tell me how to set up whre I can have a "local shell account where I have to log in and everything"
[22:51] <Beldar> seekr, flashing cursor is often a missing graphics driver, nomodeset is a low graphic boot.
[22:51] <histo> Sunstream: open a terminal
[22:52] <Sunstream> I did that but it automatically logs me in but as a user I want to be able to be a SU all the time when I use one terminal and a regular another I have 3 terminals on here one default one Xterm and another one
[22:52] <seekr> Beldar: ah - ok
[22:52] <histo> GEEGEEGEE: I have no idea. Something weird is going on with your cabling and or switch most likely.
[22:53] <seekr> Beldar: I don't see how I can provide any boot params when I'm booting directly from the BIOS
[22:53] <histo> !root | Sunstream
[22:53] <Beldar> seekr, read the link
[22:53] <seekr> Beldar: ok - will do
[22:56] <Beldar> seekr, You want the gui that has a try, or install or check the memory, some usb loaders have this bypassed so you may have to investigate how to bring that up, the flashing cursor is past that gui
[22:56] <Sunstream> I know my "root" level is through SUDO but I just want to log in each time so I can have that nostalgic feeling I think it may be easier to put a shell dameon on my system
[22:57] <Guest75918> i have a question about using an iso loopback with grub2 to boot ubuntu into ram, and then running an install
[22:58] <Sunstream> basically what I want to do (I am reading the page) is when I go into the terminal it has %sysname Login: so I can pretend I have a real shell
[22:58] <JamesMc_> Question for this group. Does discussion/support also include Lubuntu?
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[22:58] <seekr> Beldar: reading the first part of the article and your comment still leaves me thinking there's nothing I can do to supply boot params to get information to the system when it won't even load
[22:58] <Beldar> Guest75918, If you have grub you can boot with it.
[22:58] <k1l> Sunstream: just open a terminal
[22:58] <Guest75918> yup. i did boot with it
[22:58] <Sunstream> how do i report spammers?
[22:58] <k1l> Sunstream: or go to a TTY with ctrl+alt+F1
[22:58] <Guest75918> the thing is, if i want to install ubuntu
[22:58] <Beldar> seekr, read the whole article it is there,
[22:58] <seekr> Beldar: GRUB knows nothing about the USB device that contains the ubuntu install image
[22:59] <Sunstream> I know Oh let me try that
[22:59] <Guest75918> it doesn't update the partitiontable because isodevice is in use
[22:59] <RMYC> hello #ubuntu! =)
[22:59] <Beldar> seekr, You are not changing grub.
[22:59] <Glorfindel> where is the virus scanner in 14.04?
[22:59] <SchrodingersScat> !clamav | Glorfindel
[22:59] <Glorfindel> where is the location I mean
[22:59] <Beldar> seekr, You have a live usb it is addressed in that link.
[22:59] <SchrodingersScat> oh..
[23:01] <Beldar> Guest75918, Preface with a users nick if you address them.
[23:01] <Glorfindel> and ubottu dosn't know anything about clamav :(
[23:01] <SunstreamShell> Okay
[23:01] <SunstreamShell> that is neat
[23:01] <seekr> Beldar: As I told histo earlier, I'm trying to boot from a usb flash drive - there's a mobo problem that prevents it from getting into graphics mode, so I'm stuck with text-only - but unless there's something about the BIOS that I don't know about, there's no way to tell it to pass along a message to the thing that's on the usb drive that contains the bootable image
[23:01] <SunstreamShell> nut
[23:01] <SunstreamShell> But How do I go back to my gui
[23:01] <SchrodingersScat> !info clamav | Glorfindel, but as far as where it puts all the files, you'd probably have to investigate further
[23:02] <Beldar> seekr, I have tried, you have not listened or read the link, my work is done. ;)
[23:02] <Glorfindel> ok
[23:02] <SunstreamShell> Thank you for helping me to go to my tty
[23:02] <SunstreamShell> That was what I want to do on days I want to learn commandline stuff
[23:02] <SunstreamShell> Now How do I get back into my Gui
[23:02] <SchrodingersScat> SunstreamShell: ctrl-alt-f7?
[23:03] <SunstreamShell> Ok
[23:03] <SunstreamShell> Trying
[23:03] <Beldar> !mini | seekr
[23:03] <Sunstream> Okay thank you
[23:03] <seekr> Beldar: I can't see how the article applies to my case - it talks about a purple kb logo - I can't see any such thing, since, as I said, I can't get into graphics mode, which is needed to present such images
[23:03] <histo> seekr: what mobo problem is there?
[23:03] <mateusz_> hi, how can I create a bootable pen drive using startup disc creator? Whole process seems to be ok, but stick sinply doesn't want to boot. I've tried 2 pednrive on two computers and nothing only dark screen after selecting boot form pendrive.
[23:03] <Sunstream> Thank you I made a nice little index card that allows me to do TTY and GUI
[23:04] <Beldar> !nomodeset | mateusz_ try this
[23:04] <seekr> histo: I don't know the details - I know only that I've tried to install various distros, and they all hang when they try to go into graphics mode.
[23:04] <Sunstream> thank you SchrodingersScat and k1l
[23:05] <seekr> histo: in this case (and probably the others - it's been a long time since I last tried), I can't even get the BIOS to boot from the usb stick
[23:05] <Beldar> mateusz_, You might check the md5sum of the iso and usb
[23:05] <SchrodingersScat> Sunstream: welcome
[23:05] <histo> seekr: Do you get the purple grub screen or just a blinking cursor?
[23:05] <seekr> histo: negative
[23:05] <seekr> histo: blinking cursor only
[23:05] <histo> seekr: hold the shift key after the bios posts do youg et a grub screen?
[23:06] <seekr> will see, histo...
[23:06] <Sunstream> That is all I wanted thank you so much I now have the powers I want to take over the world mauhahahah no Thank you I now need to get out the documentation to have a ANSI Screen opening so when I do go to TTY I can have a beautiful screen
[23:06] <seekr> histo: so I hit F10 to save settings and exit bios mode and then immediately press and hold shift?
[23:06] <histo> seekr: yes
[23:06] <seekr> histo: ok
[23:07] <histo> seekr: basically you are trying to catch the grub screen by hitting shift. After the bios hands off to the usb to boot
[23:07] <Sunstream> Thank you
[23:07] <seekr> histo: no joy - back to blinking cursor
[23:08] <histo> seekr: did you create this from another linux machine?
[23:08] <Sunstream> Is it okay to idle here or should I leave
[23:08] <seekr> histo: yes
[23:08] <histo> seekr: boot that then, we'll edit the grub entry from there.
[23:08] <seekr> histo: I used dd to copy the ISO image I downloaded
[23:08] <Daekdroom> Sunstream, you can idle. Most of the 1700 users in this channel are.
[23:09] <seekr> histo: that's what I'm trying to do
[23:09] <seekr> histo: the problem is that the supposedly bootable installer on the usb stick is not booting
[23:09] <Sunstream> k
[23:09] <histo> seekr: mount the thumb drive, chroot there, sudo nano /etc/default/grub  add nomodeset to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line & sudo update-grub. exit the chroot umount and reboot
[23:10] <Sunstream> !describe tty
[23:10] <histo> seekr: actuall you won't need sudo after chroot...
[23:10] <seekr> histo: k, but lemme try something else first - I want to make sure I can boot something from the usb port, which I'm not sure I can at this point
[23:11] <seekr> histo: gotcha
[23:12] <Happyfeet> I have a small problem, when  I try to download something with this command svn co https://www.cgran.org/svn/projects/multimode I get the error "error: server certificate verification failed CAfile /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt CRLfile: none while accessing svn co https://www.cgran.org/svn/projects/multimode" Wat do?
[23:13] <histo> Happyfeet: try changing https to http
[23:15] <seekr> histo: just as I thought/remembered - I'm unable to boot an 8GB stick containing a live KNOPPIX system on that machine - I'll try your procedure anyway, though
[23:15] <Happyfeet> histo, they don't have the repo at http
[23:15] <histo> seekr: what graphics card is on that machine?
[23:16] <histo> Happyfeet: ask them what's wrong with their cert
[23:16] <deb> and by the way gentoo is not very gentil distro
[23:16] <seekr> histo: it's an on-board graphics thing - I also have an nvidia card, presently not installed, which does no better
[23:16] <seekr> histo: It's an asus mobo
[23:17] <jimbohertz> hey what is a good html only web browser ?
[23:18] <Happyfeet> nano is a great terminal browser
[23:18] <histo> seekr: what os are you running on this box?
[23:18] <zaapiel> nano is what i use
[23:18] <histo> jimbohertz: dwb, w3m
[23:18] <zaapiel> that or ee
[23:18] <zaapiel> easy editor
[23:19] <seekr> histo: If this idea doesn't work...  I was gonna say I'm gonna try burning a DVD disk containing the installer, which should work - would likely save a lot of debugging time - I think I'd best do the burn before I mess with the installer image - currently running a ~five year old version of debian
[23:19] <histo> seekr: so maybe some kind of issue booting from usb then.  Bios updtae may resolve it. Depends how old the hardware is.
[23:20] <zaapiel> they dont have easy editoe for linux i might make a port
[23:20] <seekr> histo: could be - I'd be delighted if I can get wifi working using the dongle I have, since you say it can be configured without the gui
[23:21] <histo> seekr: yeah what type of network do you need to connect to? WPA WEP Open?
[23:22] <seekr> hmm - not even sure - this machine is using it (running Mint) - how can I find out?
[23:22] <seekr> I'll open the network thing.
[23:22] <histo> zaapiel: there are plenty of editors, he was asking for a web browser
[23:22] <seekr> histo: ^^
[23:23] <mateusz_> I made bootable stick on  windows 7, but by startup dick creator it doesn't want to boot
[23:23] <zaapiel> firefox is the best on linux
[23:23] <zaapiel> of chrome
[23:23] <histo> seekr: iwlist scan   will show all networks within range.
[23:23] <zaapiel> chromium updates too much and flash is jack
[23:24] <jimbohertz> chromium doesnt have firefox extensions
[23:24] <histo> seekr: not sure what mint is using for network connection, probably network manager. you should be able to right clicka  network icon somewhere by the clock.
[23:24] <seekr> histo: panel shows "WPA, WPA2" - will try iwlist...
[23:24] <jimbohertz> illo
[23:24] <histo> seekr: ahh more of a pain to configure it cli but not that hard. I'll find you a good howto hold up.
[23:27] <seekr> thanks, histo
[23:28] <seekr> histo: http://pastebin.ca/2815335
[23:29] <Beldar> zaapiel, Please preface posts to others with nicks and stay with support needed please. ;)
[23:30] <histo> seekr: http://askubuntu.com/questions/138472/how-do-i-connect-to-a-wpa-wifi-network-using-the-command-line
[23:30] <histo> seekr: yeah wpa2
[23:30] <Happyfeet> is there a way to keep svn from needing to auth certificates on checkout?
[23:31] <histo> All of these howto's do a horrid job of explaining it
[23:32] <Happyfeet> histo, its the blind leading the blind in a lot of cases
[23:32] <seekr> histo: much obliged! - yeah, I've learned to cope with 'em  :)
[23:32] <histo> seekr: anyhoot you still burning dvd or did you try the nomodeset thing?
[23:32] <histo> Happyfeet: I don't have svn installed to check.
[23:33] <seekr> histo: took a while for the system to boot back into debian - I'm just copying the ISO image from the 1GB stick now to a file via dd - I'll burn it onto a dvd disk next, while I'm doing surgery on the filesystem on the stick as per your kind instructions
[23:34] <histo> Happyfeet: do you have a .subversion/auth  directory?
[23:34] <Happyfeet> histo, nope, this is all I have https://www.cgran.org/browser/projects/simple_ra/trunk
[23:34] <Happyfeet> I can't seem to get anything downloaded from this site
[23:35] <sudormrf> hey guys.  I am trying to find this program, I completely forgot the name.  I used it for connecting to cisco routers/switches with a console cable.  It was not minicom
[23:35] <histo> Happyfeet: https://answers.atlassian.com/questions/135145/how-to-solve-ssl-certificate-problem-with-git-svn
[23:35] <sudormrf> any other suggestions/ideas for programs that do this?
[23:35] <sudormrf> from the CLI
[23:36] <histo> sudormrf: kermit?
[23:36] <sudormrf> histo, hmmm....that doesn't sound right either.
[23:37] <sudormrf> histo, I may have to make do with something else
[23:37] <histo> sudormrf: http://alternativeto.net/software/minicom/?platform=linux
[23:37] <JoeyJoeJo> Is it possible to pick a specific kernel when I install ubuntu? Or will it just always go out and get the latest one?
[23:37] <sudormrf> picocom
[23:37] <sudormrf> thanks histo
[23:37] <sudormrf> :)
[23:38] <Beldar> JoeyJoeJo, THe mini install has some options I believe, not any kernel however
[23:38] <histo> JoeyJoeJo: Is there a reason you want an older kerenl?
[23:39] <JoeyJoeJo> histo: There's a bug in the latest kernel that prevents a module I need from working properly
[23:39] <Beldar> JoeyJoeJo, this 14.10
[23:39] <JoeyJoeJo> Beldar: No, I'm still using 12.04
[23:40] <Beldar> JoeyJoeJo, Have you installed the kernel stack, what 12.04 1230r 4
[23:40] <Beldar> or*
[23:41] <histo> JoeyJoeJo: do you have a link to the bug?
[23:42] <Beldar> JoeyJoeJo, Anyway the other is better help. ;)
[23:57] <jaytay> Howdy, I could use some help
[23:57] <jaytay> I've completed my install of Ubuntu just fine, but on bootup I get the message: "hda-intel: azx_get_Response timeout switching to single_cmd mode"
[23:57] <jaytay> I'm running on a 2013 Macbook Air, so it has an onboard Intel HD Graphics 5000.
[23:58] <cuddylier> Why is my ubuntu desktop sitting on this screen? http://puu.sh/9Hk4W/8f83470285.jpg
[23:58] <histo> jaytay: try #ubuntu-mactel
[23:59] <jaytay> Okies.
[23:59] <hunt_> does anyone here have any experience getting the sixaxis ps3 controolers to work over usb?
[23:59] <histo> cuddylier: press escape key
[23:59] <daftykins> cuddylier: that's the boot logo for boot media on USB or DVD, not an installed version.
[23:59] <jaytay> It appears to be empty, no luck here?
[23:59] <cuddylier> Yeah, this is virtual media
[23:59] <hunt_> i tried using xboxdrv, and whil it registers the controller exists, it doesnt recognize individual keypresses