| Unit193 | https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/xfce-daily better. | 00:09 |
|---|---|---|
| Noskcaj-school | Panel merge is up | 00:13 |
| Noskcaj-school | Unit193: Should dev-tools be synced from d/experimental? | 00:14 |
| Noskcaj-school | And i'll fix the homepage sometime soon | 00:14 |
| Unit193 | Parole and xfpm should land in that daily. | 00:24 |
| Unit193 | Noskcaj: Looked at the upstream changelog, not a lot changed so should be low risk. | 00:25 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Do you have commit access to xfce4-session, and is our delta supposed to be upstreamed? | 00:32 |
| Unit193 | brainwash: freshplayerplugin script broke? | 00:46 |
| ochosi | Unit193: nope, don't have access to that one... | 01:18 |
| ochosi | guess as long as there's no real maintainer for that it's also hard to say where upstream is going (delta-wise) | 01:18 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Will Law (williumbillium) seems to have done verification on LP: #1326740. | 02:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1326740 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu Trusty) "[SRU] Please backport xfce4-power-manager 1.2.0-3ubuntu6 to trusty" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1326740 | 02:43 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Oh, and did you have an opinion on icon size? I'm firmly against 48. :P | 03:19 |
| ochosi | Unit193: icon size where again? | 07:48 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Desktop. | 10:13 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: oh? | 10:35 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Don't agree? | 10:36 |
| bluesabre | this is the first time I've interacted with the SRU process, not sure where he did verification | 10:37 |
| Unit193 | OOoh, sorry, wasn't thinking of my last ping. He seemed to state it fixes the problem without adding new ones. | 10:42 |
| bluesabre | ah, where? | 10:43 |
| Unit193 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1326740/comments/14 not very much, but. | 10:48 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1326740 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu Trusty) "[SRU] Please backport xfce4-power-manager 1.2.0-3ubuntu6 to trusty" [Critical,Fix committed] | 10:48 |
| bluesabre | ah, gotcha | 10:52 |
| bluesabre | somehow missed that one | 10:52 |
| ochosi | Unit193: ah, i guess i'm fine with 32 as well. but it used to be 36 which results in unsharp icons ->meh | 10:56 |
| ochosi | and 48px was chosen because it's the default in thunar as well | 10:56 |
| ochosi | Unit193: feel free to propose a MR against -default-settings | 11:45 |
| Unit193 | Craap, I'm going to break something.. OK. | 11:45 |
| ochosi | suuuure, s/48/32/ is a dangerous action! | 11:46 |
| Unit193 | Noo, the LP side. :D | 11:48 |
| ochosi | elfy: i added the two specs by Unit193 to the meeting's agenda | 12:59 |
| Unit193 | I saw, when I went to add them. | 13:00 |
| ochosi | just in case i can't make it to the meeting, i wanted to say that i wanna move those along. so i wanna give people a bit of time to raise concerns (during the meeting and for a few days on the ML), but generally the approach is to move in that direction | 13:00 |
| ochosi | if there are concerns, we can vote on them | 13:01 |
| ochosi | but if there aren't, i'd like to reduce the bureaucracy there | 13:01 |
| ochosi | Unit193: fwiw, i asked around in #u-desktop and i guess we'll have to wait for the sponsors to pick up thunar-dropbox. but i guess there's nothing else to do than wait | 13:10 |
| Unit193 | You mean hexchat-indicator? | 13:11 |
| elfy | ochosi: ack | 13:16 |
| ochosi | Unit193: err whatß | 13:29 |
| ochosi | ? | 13:29 |
| elfy | is there a hexchat-indicator? | 13:30 |
| ochosi | yeah, there seemingly is | 13:30 |
| ochosi | haven't tried it, but it seems to be based on the xchat-indicator | 13:30 |
| ochosi | i'm not sure we really *have* to have that to go for hexchat since we haven't had a messaging menu for quite a while now | 13:31 |
| ochosi | hence also no xchat indicator... | 13:31 |
| elfy | indeed | 13:31 |
| Unit193 | Yep, that's what I linked to, and since the desktop team packaged the other one. | 13:31 |
| ochosi | but there's no "needs-packaging" bug report for hexchat-indicator, is there? | 13:31 |
| Unit193 | But, -indicator is installed, and that was my point. Feature differrence. Not that I know of. | 13:32 |
| ochosi | you mean xchat-indicator? | 13:32 |
| Unit193 | Yeah. | 13:35 |
| ochosi | could you test hexchat indicator and see if it works correctly? | 13:35 |
| ochosi | if so, i guess we do want it packaged so we can install it by default | 13:35 |
| elfy | I would if I can find it | 13:35 |
| Unit193 | https://launchpad.net/hexchat-indicator | 13:37 |
| elfy | mmm | 13:52 |
| elfy | deep antipathy to compiling elfy has | 13:55 |
| Unit193 | https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/staging/+build/6123909 should make you feel better. :P | 13:56 |
| Unit193 | libnih, they have a lib for not invented here? | 13:56 |
| elfy | much better elfy feels :p | 13:56 |
| Unit193 | My money is on a big fat no. :D | 13:57 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Didyou ry it? | 14:13 |
| Unit193 | ...That was painful. | 14:13 |
| elfy | no | 14:14 |
| Unit193 | Amazingly, works in trusty. | 14:15 |
| Unit193 | (Don't add the ppa, just snag the deb if anything.) | 14:15 |
| elfy | I did | 14:15 |
| elfy | just installed it | 14:16 |
| elfy | well it is in the indicator | 14:17 |
| Unit193 | 0.0.1-0ubuntu1.1~14.10 is the one that doesn't dep on xchat. :P | 14:17 |
| elfy | whether it does anything or not I don't know yet | 14:17 |
| Unit193 | So, I do this just for a trial build, and I just had to convert it to multiarch. :P | 14:17 |
| elfy | :) | 14:18 |
| ochosi | elfy: does it help if i ping you? | 14:18 |
| elfy | it might if I'm not actually in hexchat - give me a moment and try again :) | 14:19 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Ready? | 14:19 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Ping. | 14:20 |
| elfy | nada | 14:20 |
| elfy | so it works as well as the xchat one then :p | 14:20 |
| ochosi | hehe | 14:21 |
| Unit193 | Better than I expected. | 14:22 |
| elfy | the hexchat notification does it's thing | 14:22 |
| ochosi | good | 14:23 |
| ochosi | Unit193: i presume the hexchat indicator won't make it to debian, right? | 14:24 |
| Unit193 | Why would it? xchat didn't. | 14:25 |
| Unit193 | lp:~unit193/hexchat-indicator/packaging or something like that. | 14:27 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/menulibre/+bug/1323405 added sponsors, you had nothing there that'd make it show up on their radar. | 15:30 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1323405 in menulibre (Ubuntu Trusty) "[SRU] Please backport menulibre-2.0.4 to trusty" [Undecided,New] | 15:30 |
| Unit193 | elfy: So -indicator is of no use at all, right? | 19:15 |
| elfy | you can use it to start hexchat and to start it in safe mode | 19:16 |
| elfy | but other than that it does nothing at all | 19:16 |
| Unit193 | I'll take that as a no, I'd think. | 19:17 |
| elfy | so - unless it's going to make a miraculous leap into usefulness I'd say not | 19:17 |
| Unit193 | OK, cool. And, just FYI, I've setup the parole and xfpm daily builds, but as I'm not in -dev right now they're just going into one of mine. | 19:18 |
| elfy | and I'm not overenamoured with hexchat's current issues for me | 19:18 |
| elfy | Unit193: ok | 19:18 |
| Unit193 | :/ | 19:18 |
| elfy | did you see the screenshots of the resize thing? | 19:19 |
| Unit193 | So yes, the goal is to get it in xubuntu-dev, but that'll be figured out later. I don't suppose you'll be one playing with them though anyway. Yes, not exactly sure what's going on, unless the image I saw wasn't clipped at all. | 19:19 |
| elfy | of course it looks like someone is on the ball with bugs - but the resize bug has been marked as an enhancement | 19:20 |
| elfy | I guess the change from a seperate search box - which worked well was as well | 19:20 |
| elfy | no clipping in the image - the screenshot encompasses the right edge of the monitor - if I had 2 monitors it would be on the next monitor | 19:21 |
| elfy | if you look at the channel names you can see what's been lost fairly easily | 19:22 |
| Unit193 | Pulled it up, I see. | 19:24 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: d'oh | 22:33 |
| ochosi | hey | 22:33 |
| Unit193 | Howdy. Well I'm here to help. :) | 22:33 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: btw, if you need anything wrt uploader application let me know | 22:34 |
| bluesabre | hey ochosi/Unit193 | 22:34 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: sure, going to try to finish it tonight | 22:34 |
| ochosi | great | 22:35 |
| bluesabre | s/tonight/starting now | 22:35 |
| Unit193 | Indeed, great. | 22:35 |
| ochosi | in other "news", can we get Unit193's recipes for xfpm and parole to the xubuntu-dev staging PPA for utopic? | 22:36 |
| Unit193 | Would be handy if I could still have access to edit them though. :P | 22:36 |
| bluesabre | :) | 22:36 |
| ochosi | oh, and i added support for controlling the x11 screensaver blanking to xfpm today (still in a branch) | 22:36 |
| Unit193 | But, as long as I can push to the packaging branch, should be fine. | 22:37 |
| bluesabre | sure, link to recipes? | 22:37 |
| bluesabre | or I can dig them up | 22:38 |
| bluesabre | :) | 22:38 |
| bluesabre | got them | 22:38 |
| bluesabre | thanks | 22:38 |
| Unit193 | Should just be able to re-target it. | 22:39 |
| bluesabre | I think I'll have to copy them to ~xubuntu-dev so they have upload rights | 22:40 |
| bluesabre | same recipe, different home | 22:40 |
| ochosi | humm, i just got invited to slack: https://slack.com/is | 22:42 |
| ochosi | any of you know that or used that before? | 22:42 |
| bluesabre | irc++ ? | 22:42 |
| bluesabre | looks interesting | 22:43 |
| ochosi | yeah, it does | 22:43 |
| ochosi | i'm just afraid of tool overflow | 22:44 |
| ochosi | although it seems to integrate stuff like github and trell | 22:44 |
| ochosi | o | 22:44 |
| bluesabre | which ppa would you like me to target? xfce-4.12? | 22:45 |
| ochosi | but i guess as long as launchpad isn't one of them (and it'd surprise me if it ever would), it's not really a great option for us | 22:45 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Bad idea. :P | 22:45 |
| bluesabre | oh right | 22:45 |
| bluesabre | daily | 22:45 |
| bluesabre | ; | 22:45 |
| bluesabre | ) | 22:45 |
| ochosi | we have different ppas now, yeah :) | 22:45 |
| bluesabre | https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ppa | 22:46 |
| bluesabre | ? | 22:46 |
| ochosi | i'd suggest https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xubuntu-staging | 22:47 |
| bluesabre | ok, works for me | 22:49 |
| bluesabre | setting up now | 22:49 |
| bluesabre | https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+recipe/parole-daily | 22:50 |
| bluesabre | https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+recipe/xfpm-daily | 22:54 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: want to continue my xubuntu-release membership? | 22:56 |
| ochosi | oh sure | 22:57 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: bumped | 23:00 |
| bluesabre | yayyyyyy | 23:00 |
| ochosi | :) | 23:00 |
| ochosi | http://www.webupd8.org/2014/06/audacious-going-back-to-gtk2-starting.html | 23:09 |
| ochosi | this is fun news | 23:09 |
| bluesabre | interesting at least | 23:10 |
| bluesabre | don't like gtk3, going back to gtk2, so I can go to QT | 23:10 |
| ochosi | yeah, i was being sarcastic | 23:11 |
| bluesabre | :) | 23:12 |
| ochosi | going back to gtk2 doesn't really solve anything | 23:12 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Why not? The goal is to move to Qt, updating your "stable" branch every 5 minutes due to upstream isn't really good. GTK2 is stable enough they don't need to keep one eye on that and one on Qt. | 23:13 |
| ochosi | i dunno, i guess i'd just try to leap to qt directly, but everyone his/her own | 23:18 |
| ochosi | night everyone | 23:28 |
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