[00:09] https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/xfce-daily better. [00:13] Panel merge is up [00:14] Unit193: Should dev-tools be synced from d/experimental? [00:14] And i'll fix the homepage sometime soon [00:24] Parole and xfpm should land in that daily. [00:25] Noskcaj: Looked at the upstream changelog, not a lot changed so should be low risk. [00:32] ochosi: Do you have commit access to xfce4-session, and is our delta supposed to be upstreamed? [00:46] brainwash: freshplayerplugin script broke? [01:18] Unit193: nope, don't have access to that one... [01:18] guess as long as there's no real maintainer for that it's also hard to say where upstream is going (delta-wise) [02:43] bluesabre: Will Law (williumbillium) seems to have done verification on LP: #1326740. [02:43] Launchpad bug 1326740 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu Trusty) "[SRU] Please backport xfce4-power-manager 1.2.0-3ubuntu6 to trusty" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1326740 [03:19] ochosi: Oh, and did you have an opinion on icon size? I'm firmly against 48. :P [07:48] Unit193: icon size where again? [10:13] ochosi: Desktop. [10:35] Unit193: oh? [10:36] bluesabre: Don't agree? [10:37] this is the first time I've interacted with the SRU process, not sure where he did verification [10:42] OOoh, sorry, wasn't thinking of my last ping. He seemed to state it fixes the problem without adding new ones. [10:43] ah, where? [10:48] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1326740/comments/14 not very much, but. [10:48] Ubuntu bug 1326740 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu Trusty) "[SRU] Please backport xfce4-power-manager 1.2.0-3ubuntu6 to trusty" [Critical,Fix committed] [10:52] ah, gotcha [10:52] somehow missed that one [10:56] Unit193: ah, i guess i'm fine with 32 as well. but it used to be 36 which results in unsharp icons ->meh [10:56] and 48px was chosen because it's the default in thunar as well [11:45] Unit193: feel free to propose a MR against -default-settings [11:45] Craap, I'm going to break something.. OK. [11:46] suuuure, s/48/32/ is a dangerous action! [11:48] Noo, the LP side. :D [12:59] elfy: i added the two specs by Unit193 to the meeting's agenda [13:00] I saw, when I went to add them. [13:00] just in case i can't make it to the meeting, i wanted to say that i wanna move those along. so i wanna give people a bit of time to raise concerns (during the meeting and for a few days on the ML), but generally the approach is to move in that direction [13:01] if there are concerns, we can vote on them [13:01] but if there aren't, i'd like to reduce the bureaucracy there [13:10] Unit193: fwiw, i asked around in #u-desktop and i guess we'll have to wait for the sponsors to pick up thunar-dropbox. but i guess there's nothing else to do than wait [13:11] You mean hexchat-indicator? [13:16] ochosi: ack [13:29] Unit193: err whatß [13:29] ? [13:30] is there a hexchat-indicator? [13:30] yeah, there seemingly is [13:30] haven't tried it, but it seems to be based on the xchat-indicator [13:31] i'm not sure we really *have* to have that to go for hexchat since we haven't had a messaging menu for quite a while now [13:31] hence also no xchat indicator... [13:31] indeed [13:31] Yep, that's what I linked to, and since the desktop team packaged the other one. [13:31] but there's no "needs-packaging" bug report for hexchat-indicator, is there? [13:32] But, -indicator is installed, and that was my point. Feature differrence. Not that I know of. [13:32] you mean xchat-indicator? [13:35] Yeah. [13:35] could you test hexchat indicator and see if it works correctly? [13:35] if so, i guess we do want it packaged so we can install it by default [13:35] I would if I can find it [13:37] https://launchpad.net/hexchat-indicator [13:52] mmm [13:55] deep antipathy to compiling elfy has [13:56] https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/staging/+build/6123909 should make you feel better. :P [13:56] libnih, they have a lib for not invented here? [13:56] much better elfy feels :p [13:57] My money is on a big fat no. :D [14:13] elfy: Didyou ry it? [14:13] ...That was painful. [14:14] no [14:15] Amazingly, works in trusty. [14:15] (Don't add the ppa, just snag the deb if anything.) [14:15] I did [14:16] just installed it [14:17] well it is in the indicator [14:17] 0.0.1-0ubuntu1.1~14.10 is the one that doesn't dep on xchat. :P [14:17] whether it does anything or not I don't know yet [14:17] So, I do this just for a trial build, and I just had to convert it to multiarch. :P [14:18] :) [14:18] elfy: does it help if i ping you? [14:19] it might if I'm not actually in hexchat - give me a moment and try again :) [14:19] ochosi: Ready? [14:20] elfy: Ping. [14:20] nada [14:20] so it works as well as the xchat one then :p [14:21] hehe [14:22] Better than I expected. [14:22] the hexchat notification does it's thing [14:23] good [14:24] Unit193: i presume the hexchat indicator won't make it to debian, right? [14:25] Why would it? xchat didn't. [14:27] lp:~unit193/hexchat-indicator/packaging or something like that. [15:30] bluesabre: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/menulibre/+bug/1323405 added sponsors, you had nothing there that'd make it show up on their radar. [15:30] Ubuntu bug 1323405 in menulibre (Ubuntu Trusty) "[SRU] Please backport menulibre-2.0.4 to trusty" [Undecided,New] [19:15] elfy: So -indicator is of no use at all, right? [19:16] you can use it to start hexchat and to start it in safe mode [19:16] but other than that it does nothing at all [19:17] I'll take that as a no, I'd think. [19:17] so - unless it's going to make a miraculous leap into usefulness I'd say not [19:18] OK, cool. And, just FYI, I've setup the parole and xfpm daily builds, but as I'm not in -dev right now they're just going into one of mine. [19:18] and I'm not overenamoured with hexchat's current issues for me [19:18] Unit193: ok [19:18] :/ [19:19] did you see the screenshots of the resize thing? [19:19] So yes, the goal is to get it in xubuntu-dev, but that'll be figured out later. I don't suppose you'll be one playing with them though anyway. Yes, not exactly sure what's going on, unless the image I saw wasn't clipped at all. [19:20] of course it looks like someone is on the ball with bugs - but the resize bug has been marked as an enhancement [19:20] I guess the change from a seperate search box - which worked well was as well [19:21] no clipping in the image - the screenshot encompasses the right edge of the monitor - if I had 2 monitors it would be on the next monitor [19:22] if you look at the channel names you can see what's been lost fairly easily [19:24] Pulled it up, I see. [22:33] Unit193: d'oh [22:33] hey [22:33] Howdy. Well I'm here to help. :) [22:34] bluesabre: btw, if you need anything wrt uploader application let me know [22:34] hey ochosi/Unit193 [22:34] ochosi: sure, going to try to finish it tonight [22:35] great [22:35] s/tonight/starting now [22:35] Indeed, great. [22:36] in other "news", can we get Unit193's recipes for xfpm and parole to the xubuntu-dev staging PPA for utopic? [22:36] Would be handy if I could still have access to edit them though. :P [22:36] :) [22:36] oh, and i added support for controlling the x11 screensaver blanking to xfpm today (still in a branch) [22:37] But, as long as I can push to the packaging branch, should be fine. [22:37] sure, link to recipes? [22:38] or I can dig them up [22:38] :) [22:38] got them [22:38] thanks [22:39] Should just be able to re-target it. [22:40] I think I'll have to copy them to ~xubuntu-dev so they have upload rights [22:40] same recipe, different home [22:42] humm, i just got invited to slack: https://slack.com/is [22:42] any of you know that or used that before? [22:42] irc++ ? [22:43] looks interesting [22:43] yeah, it does [22:44] i'm just afraid of tool overflow [22:44] although it seems to integrate stuff like github and trell [22:44] o [22:45] which ppa would you like me to target? xfce-4.12? [22:45] but i guess as long as launchpad isn't one of them (and it'd surprise me if it ever would), it's not really a great option for us [22:45] bluesabre: Bad idea. :P [22:45] oh right [22:45] daily [22:45] ; [22:45] ) [22:45] we have different ppas now, yeah :) [22:46] https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ppa [22:46] ? [22:47] i'd suggest https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xubuntu-staging [22:49] ok, works for me [22:49] setting up now [22:50] https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+recipe/parole-daily [22:54] https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+recipe/xfpm-daily [22:56] ochosi: want to continue my xubuntu-release membership? [22:57] oh sure [23:00] bluesabre: bumped [23:00] yayyyyyy [23:00] :) [23:09] http://www.webupd8.org/2014/06/audacious-going-back-to-gtk2-starting.html [23:09] this is fun news [23:10] interesting at least [23:10] don't like gtk3, going back to gtk2, so I can go to QT [23:11] yeah, i was being sarcastic [23:12] :) [23:12] going back to gtk2 doesn't really solve anything [23:13] ochosi: Why not? The goal is to move to Qt, updating your "stable" branch every 5 minutes due to upstream isn't really good. GTK2 is stable enough they don't need to keep one eye on that and one on Qt. [23:18] i dunno, i guess i'd just try to leap to qt directly, but everyone his/her own [23:28] night everyone