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DarkwingAnyone played with Plasma Next with an HiDPI screen?00:06
ScottKRiddell: analitza didn't make it on armhf.  Needs moar symbols.00:07
ScottKRiddell: perlkde's pretty unhappy too.00:17
ScottKMoar symbols on okteta too.00:19
ScottKRiddell: I (hopefully) took care of pykde4.01:05
ScottKarmhf symbols needed on marble too.01:11
ahoneybunthanks valorie for the tip about the metalinks02:42
ScottKLooking at marble.02:48
ScottKpykde4 is fine now.02:48
ScottKUploaded marble.03:17
lordievaderGood morning.05:47
apacheloggershadeslayer: mh, no, given the impact I'd say screw it at this point07:22
Riddell"Aurélien Gâteau (agateau) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members (kubuntu-members) team until 2015-06-27" yay agateau still loves us!07:29
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Riddellanyone able to test saving a file in calligra 2.8.3 for ingwa?09:11
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BluesKaj'Morning10:32
Riddellshadeslayer: I guess we'll have to live with alpha 1 being oversized11:06
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ScottKWe've also got some work to do to get stuff from -proposed into -release.12:46
ScottKI started working on it last night.12:47
Riddellbeen looking at that this morning12:48
Riddelland I'm a bit confused by it12:49
Riddellstuff like nepomuk-core not transitioning and I can't work out why12:50
* yofel suspects libav12:51
yofelalso needs a rebuild according to http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/libav10.html12:53
Riddellaah12:54
yofelalthough it shouldn't be stuck on it if it still uses the old lib..12:55
yofelbritney is confusing12:55
ScottKIt is libav.12:55
Riddellnope still don't get it, nepomuk-core-runtime 4:4.13.2-0ubuntu3 Depends: baloo, libavformat55 (>= 6:10~beta1~), libavutil53 (>= 6:10~beta1~)12:57
Riddellthat's the new ones it depends on12:57
yofelwell, as long as libav won't migrate nepomuk-core won't either12:59
yofelbut then ben is wrong12:59
Riddellbut why's it say bad on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/libav10.html ?12:59
ScottKGood question.13:03
ScottKI'm also confused by https://launchpadlibrarian.net/178435089/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-armhf.ksudoku_4%3A4.13.2-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz - the code in question hasn't changed in years.13:06
RiddellGL code though so something might have changed in mesa for it13:06
RiddellI'm also rebuilding analitza without precompiled headers on cjwatson's advise to see if that fixes it, maybe ksudoku has the same issue13:07
Riddellalthough at only 3% done it might take my poor wee pandaboard a while to get through analitza13:07
ScottKI'd say heave it at the archive and see what happens.13:07
Riddellanyone want to chair the frameworks meeting today?13:08
ScottKOnly if that means I can change the maintenance policy.13:08
Riddellmight be a long shot13:08
ScottKNo, I've actually got a lot of $work to do today, so I should get on with that.13:08
Riddellsgclark: fancy a new challenge? ↑13:09
* sgclark reads13:10
Riddellsgclark: chairing a frameworks meeting13:10
sgclarkRiddell: not sure what the challenge is?13:11
sgclarkwhat does that entail?13:12
Riddellsgclark: running the meeting on irc in 50 minutes13:12
Riddellsgclark: pinging everyone who came last week, waiting a bit, announcing dates13:12
Riddellasking each person in turn for any updates13:13
sgclarklol, no idea what I am doing there and would with no problem if I had more than 50 mins to prepare13:13
Riddellhmm, I wonder if I can find another victim13:17
ScottKshadeslayer: In your draft message to ubuntu-devel you suggest not putting kf5 in the archive.  I don't think that's what we discussed on the call.  I'd think since upstream has released it, it'd be mature enough to put in the archive.13:26
* shadeslayer looks again13:29
Riddellupstream are also releasing plasma 513:30
shadeslayerScottK: that wasn't the intention, I simply managed to not write down the part about going into the archive13:31
ScottKOK.13:31
Riddellwe could put that in the archive but I think we want to keep plasma 1 for now too so it would mean lots of package renaming13:31
ScottKRiddell: I think we should put that in the archive too.13:31
ScottKI just don't think we should ship it as "Kubuntu".13:31
ScottKJust like we had KDE3 and KDE4 in Hardy.13:31
Riddellyep13:32
ScottKWhatever problems we're going to have due to upstream maintenance policy, I think it's better we have them sooner rather than later.13:33
ScottKanalitza (hopefully) fixed.16:45
ScottKshadeslayer: Can you find someone to look into okteta and perlkde?  Both are FTBFS and I'm out of time.16:48
ScottKapachelogger: Maybe you?16:48
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ScottKkalzium should build on armhf now.17:15
ScottKsgclark: Our armhf is differnt than Debian's so it's not rare for us to have armhf specific changes.  When you did the kalzium merge, you dropped one that kept the package from building.  Not a big deal, but FYI.17:16
sgclarkScottK: ahh ok, I will remember that in the future, ty17:19
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ScottKBTW, seriously, don't worry about making mistakes, only worry about not learning from them.17:20
ScottK(or not following up on them and fixing them, although I already fixed this one)17:20
sgclarkty, yes I fix mistakes I am aware of, sorry I was not aware. I think I need a calendar of releases heh17:21
ScottKRight, I wasn't saying you didn't.  I know you're conscientious.  Just didn't want you to worry too much about this one.17:25
* yofel looks at okteta18:03
ScottKThanks.18:04
lordievaderIs bug 1296425 known? Seems it affects only KDE...18:10
ubottubug 1296425 in alsa-plugins (Ubuntu) "pulseaudio is started twice - effectively making device management impossible." [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129642518:10
yofelnow that you mention it, I do have pulse running twice o.O18:12
lordievaderThat's the bug exactly ;) My workaround was disabeling PA's respawn and starting it through ~/.profile.18:14
yofelapachelogger: ^ any ideas?18:18
rdieterfyi, here's something you might consider backporting in pulseaudio to help address that, http://cgit.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/commit/?id=2b85ae048970b7faa7505fd0cd4746541d1b09eb 18:20
rdieter(and followup fix, http://cgit.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/commit/?id=f46799579f438125b695dced4edf8bca05cbe90a )18:21
yofelthanks18:22
ScottKyofel: Can you do perlkde too?18:51
yofelhm, I'll look at it at least18:51
yofelScottK: I'll give it a try18:52
ScottKThanks.18:52
yofelScottK: done19:04
ScottKThanks.19:04
ScottKI think that's everything for 4.13.2 built then.19:05
ScottKRespinning those, so don't all rush in and test.21:33
apacheloggeryofel: the real question is why the hell aplay is run actually :P21:56
apacheloggerdriver sl-modem detection calls aplay -l22:00
apacheloggerthis is spooky stuff22:00
apacheloggervery spooky22:00
apacheloggerOTOH that should not be run until 4 minutes in the session what with lazy init22:01
apacheloggerah, the lazyness in kubuntu-notification-helper is bugged actually22:03
apacheloggerdriver detection is bound to qapt init and that is bound to event construction which bypasses lazy init ^^22:03
apacheloggermany bugs piling up \o/22:03
ScottKapachelogger: Any chance you can fix that like right now so we can have an unbugged Alpha 1 (at least in that respect)?22:23
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