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lordievaderGood morning.05:47
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macramhello. i have a problem07:42
macramI'm Spanish and so is my keyboard. The point is, when I try to write รก, most apps get 'a (first the 'tilde', then the vowel)07:43
macramAnyone with a link, documentation or something? Thank you07:43
lordievadermacram: You might want to reconfigure your keyboard layout, or checkout the compose key.07:44
macramlordievader: the point is, it fails in gtk apps. In KDE apps it works fine07:45
lordievaderHmm, I know next to nothing about gtk applications.07:46
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yossarianuk*offtopic* Just heard Robert Plants new track - its rather good (i.e Led Zeppelin)08:45
lordievaderyossarianuk: We have #kubuntu-offtopic for offtopic chatter ;)08:51
yossarianuksorry - its not every day you hear a new track from a musical legend... I'll keep on topic...08:56
* friti feels that if a room or channel is deadly quiet, even offtopic topics should be allowed and even welcomed08:56
yossarianukin some ways it being quiet is good thing - no major bugs...08:58
yossarianukactually I have an on topic question....08:58
yossarianukI have a crappy samsung netbook - low spec. I'm going to upgrade the OS soon on it - can kubuntu(kde) be made lightweight enough to warrant me trying to install it ?08:59
yossarianukit has ubuntu/unity which is good for screen usage - but its deadly slow08:59
yossarianukI use kde on all my desktops - but always considered it too 'heavy' for a netbook09:00
fritiInmy experience, Unity is much slower than KDE09:00
yossarianukanyone here have experience of Kubuntu(or any version of kde) on a low powered netbook ?09:00
fritiI have ran it on an EEEPC09:01
yossarianukfriti: yes but are they no on-par ish on system resource usage09:01
yossarianuk*not*09:01
lordievaderyossarianuk: I'd checkout LXDE or XFCE for that netbook.09:02
yossarianuklordievader: thanks - I did try e17 before (bodhi) and that was usable, seems no point installing that now as v 3. will be out in a few months..09:04
yossarianukmaybe lxle then...09:04
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BluesKaj'Morning10:32
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nesciusevening11:35
BluesKajmorning11:43
Avihaynoon11:55
dodger_good morning11:56
BluesKajok , hey nescius, Avihay, dodger_  :)11:57
ewlI just installed kubuntu 14.04 yesterday. I like it. everything is running well. But the spell checker in firefox is set to british english, for some reason. The system is set to American English.12:25
BluesKajewl, check FF open menu>preferences>content tab>languages12:31
mcstrhi! i have installed project neon via the ppas next to kubuntu 14.04 and how can i use the settings for my apps with plasma... what folder do i have to copy?12:31
ewlThanks BluesKaj but I already found out how to do it. Right click in a text box and select the language dictionary there. Thanks for the response.12:32
BluesKajmcstr, update and upgrade after adding the ppa then dist-upgrade12:36
mcstr@blues i have done update and upgrade, the ppa is added, plasma already running.... i mean when i chose kde plasma on the login screen i have all the programs i installed in kubuntu 14.04 but they are lacking the settings.. for example kontact has no mail accounts, this quassel irc has no the channels saved, etc.12:37
BluesKajok mcstr sorry I can't help fix those bugs, since I don't run the neon project ppa ...ppas aren't officially supported on this chat, fyi.12:41
mcstri dont really think its a bug ... probably i just have to copy one folder dunno which one tho12:41
BluesKajcheck launchpad12:42
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BluesKajmcstr, suggest you join #project-neon12:46
AleksejsHomeok, this is too much: I spent 2 days to get my system work after kubuntu destroyed everything when I did do-release-upgrade. Now I got it back (with loosing all my data on all partitions). But after downloading some updates, touchpad stopped working. I've added a file nsmouse.conf in /etc/modprobe and added a line "options psmouse proto=imps", and touchpad is working now although it shows that no touchpad13:04
AleksejsHomefound in settings. But still, touchpad scrolling does not work13:04
AleksejsHomethe question is: is it possible to make kubuntu work without breaking something on each update, or should I switch to something else, like arch?13:05
BluesKajAleksejsHome, did you update and upgrade your existing packages before release upgrading?13:07
AleksejsHomeyes, everything was up to date13:07
AleksejsHomebut it's too late, I have fresh install now, as kubuntu 13.10 live usb destroyed all partitions before I even started to do something13:08
AleksejsHomeI got back to 12.10, and almost everything works13:08
AleksejsHomeexcept touchpad and nvidia vcard13:08
AleksejsHometouchpad worked perfectly, until I run an update13:09
BluesKajwell, dunno what went wrong for your setup , but I just upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04 two says ago and the only problem I had was getting the nvidia graphics 331 driver to work, otherwise all went fine13:11
AleksejsHomewell, I suppose, we have different hardware13:12
AleksejsHomekubuntu 13.10 can't work with my wifi card, so I switched back to 12.1013:12
AleksejsHomehow do I get touchpad work as it should?13:13
BluesKajIm actually running 14.10 on this laptop and have fewer problems than I had with 13.10 and 14.0413:14
AleksejsHomeI won't risk trying something else, as 12.10 is the only one which works with my wifi13:16
AleksejsHomebut I really want to get my touchpad back13:16
AleksejsHomeprobably, the only solution is to reinstall and disable updates forever13:18
AleksejsHomeit sounds like windows13:18
BluesKajhave you looked at system settings>input devices>touchpad ?13:19
AleksejsHomeyes, and it says Touchpad not found13:20
AleksejsHomeas I said before13:20
BluesKajinstall synaptiks13:20
AleksejsHomeI did13:21
AleksejsHomewhen I launch synaptiks, it says "QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave."13:22
AleksejsHomeif I launch sudo synaptiks, it shows "No touchpad found"13:23
BluesKajAleksejsHome, try dbus-launch13:23
AleksejsHomeit showed dbus address and pid13:25
BluesKajAleksejsHome, dbus-launch synaptiks ?13:27
AleksejsHome"No touchpad found"13:29
AleksejsHomeok, reinstalling13:36
BluesKajbbl13:39
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luciano_HI14:24
luciano_This is my first time on IRC14:24
luciano_HELP14:25
luciano_QUIT14:26
luciano_quit14:26
Picik14:28
BluesKajlooks like it's his last :)14:37
sogatorihello, has anyone tried to compile the lasted plasma mediacenter on kubuntu 14.04?14:42
lordievadersogatori: Compiling isn't really the Ubuntu way, don't think there are many in here who have compiled the plasma mediacenter. Perhaps in #kubuntu-devel they have.14:44
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sogatorithanks lordievader14:45
BluesKajcsogatori , why compile, when it's in the repos?14:45
lordievader^ that is the Ubuntu way :)14:47
sogatoriBluesKaj: 1.3 is in the repos? O_o14:49
sogatorihmm, no, it isn't14:50
BluesKajsogatori, ok, i see it's buggy ..now I understand why you think compiling will provide a better version, but that isn't necessarily true.14:54
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jjeronimovalorie: is the phonon-backend-vlc still maintained?15:00
jjeronimovalorie: I'm the guy with the headset where I can't use the earplugs and the mic at the same time on kubuntu, while on ubuntu it works just fine15:07
jjeronimo(usb headset)15:08
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zenxanyone has problems with qt creator in kubuntu 14.04? The window doesn't seem to be drawing itself, only when I move it or alike16:50
lordievaderzenx: Ohh, let me install it, if I don't already have it. I'll check it out.16:50
zenxlordievader: I am using an intel graphics card don't know if that matters but I haven't seen this problem in any other application16:52
lordievaderzenx: Works fine here.16:54
zenxlordievader: thanks for your time, i am using a virtual machine for now16:54
lordievaderzenx: I'm not ;)16:55
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swap................17:08
asdf__Hello?17:37
asdf__heelloo????17:38
asdf__FUCK THSIS CHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!17:39
PiciThats no way to get support...17:39
BluesKajit's the generation that expects instant gratification, Pici17:42
Z_Godlordievader: seems your workaround doesn't work here.. there's still a 2nd instance (at least there are not 3 now :)17:44
lordievaderZ_God: You did disable the respawn option of PA?17:56
Z_Godlordievader: not explicitly, but is that necessary?17:57
Z_GodI would expect that to be disable by default, the standard start-up scripts also mention they won't work correctly if that's not disabled17:57
Z_Goddisabled*17:57
lordievaderZ_God: No respawn is quite nice, therefore it is enabled by default. Anyhow disabeling it got rid of the two instances (it wouldn't start at all ;))17:58
Z_Godbut then I think that's the whole bug17:59
Z_GodFor GNOME/KDE/18:00
Z_God# Xfce sessions in Ubuntu Lucid/10.04, /etc/xdg/autostart/pulseaudio.desktop18:00
Z_God# handles this function of automatically starting PulseAudio on login, and for18:00
Z_God# it to work correctly your user must *not* have "autospawn = no" set in18:00
Z_God# ~/.pulse/client.conf (or in /etc/pulse/client.conf). By default, autospawn18:00
Z_God# is enabled. For other sessions, you can simply start PulseAudio with18:00
unopasteZ_God you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted18:00
lordievaderZ_God: Make a bug report, I'll confirm it.18:00
Z_Godlordievader: seems it's the other way around, it should not be set according to the script18:04
Z_GodI already made a bugreport, I'll see if I can find another one about the double instances18:04
Z_Godlordievader: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-plugins/+bug/129642518:06
ubottuUbuntu bug 1296425 in alsa-plugins (Ubuntu) "pulseaudio is started twice - effectively making device management impossible." [High,Confirmed]18:06
lordievaderHeh, I connfirmed it already.18:08
geniiOuch.18:09
Z_Godlordievader: yep, I saw it :) I marked my report as a dupe18:10
jotikhello! Where can I find the GPG public key used to sign Kubuntu releases?19:52
lordievaderjotik: On the Ubuntu keyserver: keyserver.ubuntu.com19:53
rosco_yCan anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong (attempting to modify my PATH): http://pastie.org/932072519:54
jotiklordievader: can you give me a key ID please?19:55
lordievaderrosco_y: Second line in your bashrc should be: PATH=$SCRIPTS:$PATH (without the beginning $)19:56
lordievaderjotik: Apt will tell you if it is missing a key.19:56
jotiklordievader: I don't have apt installed on my Gentoo system.19:57
rosco_ylordievader: Thank You!19:57
lordievaderjotik: Err, you know this is Kubuntu support right? Key id is probably 437D05B5.19:58
jotiklordievader: yes. I downloaded a kubuntu ISO and now want to check its integrity using SHA256SUMS and SHA256SUMS.gpg19:59
jotiklordievader: but I need to know the correct GPG key ID.19:59
lordievaderMd5sum doesn't cut it? http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download (bottom of the page)20:00
lordievaderjotik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSHA256SUM20:02
jotiklordievader: I know the procedure, but I still need the public key.20:03
jotikgpg does not automatically download a public key for me. And IMHO if it would this would probably break the security for checking the integrity of SHA256SUMS anyway.20:05
lordievaderjotik: Ah you need to cdimage key, that's EFE2109220:05
jotiklordievader: weird: gpg: Signature made Thu Apr 17 17:48:53 2014 EEST using DSA key ID FBB7545120:06
jotikprobably a hacked ttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ mirror then.20:06
jotikhttp*20:06
lordievaderI got one from 2012 and an older one from 2004 for 'Ubuntu CD Image Automatic Signing Key'.20:07
bnutzerhey, i am getting 'language support not complete' notifications in 14.04 and LC_LANG is unset as well. any ideas on what could have been skipped?20:10
bnutzeri installed using the server installation image, then installed kubuntu-desktop20:11
lordievaderbnutzer: That first one is quite normal, simply click the flag and it will prompt you with the package you are missing.20:13
SamwiseGamgeeWhere can I download Kubuntu 14.04?20:14
bnutzerlordievader: i can't authorize it to install the missing packages; my system is configured like that. if it would tell me the package names, i could install them manually.20:14
soee_SamwiseGamgee: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu20:14
SamwiseGamgeethanks20:15
lordievaderbnutzer: Pff, I don't really know what package it is precisely.20:16
lordievader!crosspost | SamwiseGamgee20:16
ubottuSamwiseGamgee: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.20:16
bnutzerlordievader: no problem :)20:16
SamwiseGamgeesorry20:16
bnutzerlordievader: hey, that was easy. a script called check-language-support seems to report some package names :)20:17
lordievaderbnutzer: Hihi, nice find ;)20:17
bnutzerbrb20:30
bnutzerok, no more missing packages. LC_LANG is still unset and i'm not sure if other LC_ stuff is correct either. 'en_DE.UTF-8' looks suspicious. could this be correct? i need german/european dates etc and english language20:34
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Guest66785org.kde.networkmanagement plasmoid in kde does not work. Tried to delete it using plasmapkg but it says it does not exist... Instead of the plasmoid  in the tray I get the error message "/usr/share/kde4/apps/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.networkmanagement/contents/ui/main.qml:113:19: Type ConnectionItem unavailable", I think this because of the error in the connectionitem.qml:370: "Cannot assign to nonexistent property onAccepted"?? Any ideas, I even20:49
Guest66785tried to reinstall kde-full did not help20:49
bnutzera-ha, looks like the LC_* values are all wrong and set by kde21:04
bnutzerbrb21:06
SamwiseGamgeeIf I just copy the Kubuntu 14.04 one GB ISO onto my USB stick, can I use that to install it onto my PC?21:24
m0rsSamwise, no. Use this - http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/21:28
m0rsIt will let you create a live CD/DVD on the USB drive, then you can install from there.21:28
m0rsThe main reason just copying it over wont work is it needs to be bootable.21:28
geniiIt can be done with dd since the image is a hybrid. But not just by copying the iso file over.21:29

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