=== chriadam|away is now known as chriadam === vying is now known as Guest52220 [03:07] Hi [03:07] I recently installed ubuntu 14.04 [03:07] Used to use 12.04 earlier.. [03:08] there.. [03:08] I recently installed 14.04 from 12.04.. [03:09] I still have the issue where the display brightness function keys do not work.. They were not working in 12.04 as well. [03:09] Has anyone faced this problem before, and if there is any patch/fix ? === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === bzoltan1 is now known as bzoltan [06:50] good morning [07:23] dpm, hey, against which project translation bugs on the phone should be reported? [07:30] hi jibel, you can file them here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations [07:30] Hi, [07:30] why ubuntu Touch suppert of nexus? [07:31] why not samsung galaxy s series? [07:31] sorry: why ubuntu Touch just support of nexus? [07:32] dpm, thanks, bug 1333555 , how do you differentiate them from desktop translations, is there a specific tag? [07:32] bug 1333555 in unity8 (Ubuntu) ""Carte SIM verrouillée" label too long in French" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1333555 [07:34] jibel, we don't have one atm, but I can create a 'touch' one, or reuse the 'qa-touch' one. Do you have any preferences? [07:36] dpm, anything != qa-touch would be fine. [07:36] jibel, ok, I've gone for touch-l10n [07:37] dpm, ta [08:07] ogra_, pingaling [08:08] tvoss, Yo! [08:09] ogra_, hey there :) I need some help to get /system/etc/gps.conf to /etc/gps.conf [08:09] tvoss, make a bind mount ... see if that works [08:11] mpt, hey, do you know if there are design visuals for the touch system settings update's page somewhere (or if somebody is working on that)? [08:14] seb128, do you mean pixel-precise equivalents of the wireframes at ? Nobody is working on that, as far as I know. [08:15] mpt, right, I don't need pixel-detail, but see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1333565 ... some of the items, like the fact that we have lines between items, would be easier to compare with a real screen image than with wireframes [08:15] Ubuntu bug 1333565 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Phone's system settings update page has some UI issues" [Low,Confirmed] [08:16] mpt, though the wireframes seem to suggest there are no lines between the items [08:19] uh o.O it has been 7 months since I last ported ubuntu touch to my phone [08:31] Good morning all; happy Bannockburn Day! :-D [09:11] seb128: for rtm, could we prevent system-settings from going into landscape? [09:12] just thinking about this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1333135 [09:12] Ubuntu bug 1333135 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "pages don't handle keyboard and orientation properly" [Low,New] [09:12] Wellark, no idea, is there an api to control rotation in our toolkit? we don't do anything to rotate atm, it's the uitk doing it [09:12] seb128: yep. [09:12] bzoltan: ^ [09:13] seb128: the keyboard handling still stays valid.. [09:13] actually would be cool if uitk would handle it [09:14] http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Components.MainView/#automaticOrientation-prop ? [09:16] the prob with that is that it uses the default device orientation ... so apps running on manta will always be landscape even if they wouldnt fit on screen === vying is now known as Guest34495 [09:38] tvoss, looking closer at /etc/gps.conf it already is a bind mount to /system/etc/gps.conf it seems [09:38] ogra_, okay, cool [09:39] but i cant find out why ! [09:47] ogra_: hmmm, no oSoMoN or Bill :< [10:12] ogra_: did you ever think that someone did it to confuse you ;) [10:41] davmor2, well, sure, my problem is that i cant find out how he did it :P [10:42] ogra_: and that my friend is why it is there to confuse you :P [10:52] thanks seb128 for updating the u-s-s translations template :) [10:52] dpm, yw! === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away === pete-woods is now known as pete-woods-lunch [11:51] mpt, ok, I need design clarifications about that "install updates", should I open a new bug and assign to you? [11:51] mpt, like what should happen if there are 3 app updates, the user click "install 3 updates", then pause 2 of the items [11:52] one is installing, 2 are paused, what about the button state/label? [11:54] seb128, when an update is paused, it should return to the same visual state as if it had never begun. So there are two updates left, which is more than one, so the top button should be “Install 2 Updates”. [11:54] Ah, the word “available” is a bit ambiguous, right [11:57] mpt, hum, currently the "install 3 updates" change to "pause 3 updates" when you click on it and those are downloading, maybe that's wrong [11:58] mpt, maybe it should hide then, and if 1 is pause still be hidden, and if a second is paused display again as "install 2 updates"? [11:59] seb128, that’s my fault, until now I never even thought about what should happen to the button when it’s tapped :-/ [12:00] mpt, want a bug report about that? [12:00] yes please [12:02] does anyone know if there is a release date yet for an ubuntu-touch app store? [12:02] does ubuntu touch still has radio/ril issue for non nexus devices ? [12:04] mhr3, re bug 1333142 , I cannot produce a better trace. There is not enough space to retrace directly on the device and retracing outside results in a corrupt stack. Can't you really reproduce with the steps in the bug report? it fails everytime here with latest build. [12:04] bug 1333142 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "unity8 crashed with SIGSEGV" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1333142 === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:04] jibel, nope, was randomly swiping back and forth and nothing happened [12:05] i mean... it didn't crash [12:05] does ubuntu touch still has radio/ril issue for non nexus devices ? [12:05] can anyone reply :3 [12:05] :/ === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:08] mpt, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1333668 [12:08] Ubuntu bug 1333668 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "The "install update" button behaviour needs to be detailled in the specification" [High,New] [12:08] thanks [12:08] thank you for looking at it! [12:09] :\ [12:20] Chipaca, i just did a bootchart for todays image and during the session startup i see ubuntu-push-client starting in masses ... looking at the log ofteh upstart process i see: [12:20] 2014/06/24 11:06:38.228177 INFO "com.ubuntu.PushNotifications" dialed in. [12:20] 2014/06/24 11:06:38 unable to start: Unable to find a hardware address [12:20] 100 times [12:21] (4 entries per second) [12:21] ogra_: "starting in masses"? [12:21] http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-bootcharts/ubuntu-phablet-utopic-95.png [12:21] well, it starts more often than once :) [12:22] Disable touch of the tablet in Ubuntu Unity 14.04 | http://askubuntu.com/q/487570 [12:22] gah. If boot charts were searchable, they'd be a lot more useful [12:22] ogra_: what's changed? assuming this didn't happen before (or maybe you've only just noticed?) [12:23] Chipaca, going backwards through the charts it seems to happen since a while (i only look at the boot process every other week) [12:24] ogra_: where more or less in that image can i see push starting multiple times? [12:24] it started somewhere between 49 and 71 ... [12:24] scroll down and look for the ubuntu-push-client process [12:25] mhr3, it seems related to the quality of the network connection [12:25] it should be one ... but i count that it starts at least 5 times [12:25] ogra_: 49 and 71 what? [12:25] mhr3, if I move closer to the AP it never crash [12:25] it'll try to get the whoopsie id 200 times before crapping out, and upstart will restart it 10 times i think [12:26] mhr3, but if I move farther so the device is still connected but the quality is very low, then unity8 crashes [12:26] Chipaca, I didnt create bootcharts between image 49 and 71 ... in image 49 it doesnt behave like that [12:26] ogra_: ah! ok :) [12:26] but that definitely doesnt look sane [12:26] ev: so. what's the news on the whoopsie bug wrt it needing the interface to be up to find it? [12:26] hey sil2100 and seb128 any progress on Ken's system settings stuff? [12:27] pmcgowan, what stuff? the ofono work? [12:27] seb128, that and the branch he has for sim services [12:27] Chipaca, you might want to change your upstart job's "start on" contidion [12:27] pmcgowan, he didn't mp any of those, I said I would have a look to that but that requires the bindings to land first and I didn't see that happening yet? [12:28] ogra_: to what? [12:28] seb128, right, that was my question, will wait for sil2100 [12:28] ogra_: (serious, non-flippant question, in case you were reading it that way) [12:28] pmcgowan, k [12:29] Chipaca, just trying to find out ... one sec [12:29] we could also stop using whoopsie for the id [12:29] it's got more problems than we've got time to address [12:29] ev: much as it'd pain me, I'm seriously considering it [12:30] Chipaca, start on started dbus and :sys:whoopsie started [12:30] or so [12:30] ogra_: we don't need whoopsie running [12:30] you need to have an id [12:30] yes [12:30] rsalveti, ricmm: the qtubuntu-sensors makes unity8-desktop segfaults on start in utopic :/ [12:30] whoopsie-the-process isn't the thing that generates the id [12:30] ogra_: it's libwhoopsie [12:30] oh, ok [12:31] in fact, whoopsie the process has the exact same problem [12:31] but it neither detects nor works around it [12:31] so that's a bit worse :) [12:32] right, i dont see a process running [12:32] (grepping for "push" in the processlist) [12:32] ogra_: it will have given up after 10*200 attempts [12:33] ogra_: if you never got an interface up in that time [12:33] right [12:33] phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ initctl status ubuntu-push-client [12:33] ubuntu-push-client stop/waiting [12:33] so it did [12:33] "that time" is a lot of seconds, by the by [12:33] .6 seconds sleep between each try [12:33] right, and it respawns like crazy :) [12:34] no, it doesn't [12:34] according to the bootchart it does [12:34] still haven't found it :-( [12:34] each "ubuntu-push-cli" you see there means that it has a new PID [12:34] ah, just found one [12:35] under lightdm you see the "click" entry [12:35] pmcgowan: hey! Yeah, I did some work yesterday on the libqofono branch, will try pushing it to the archive today [12:35] pmcgowan: had some other business in-between [12:35] right after that (below) it starts the first one [12:35] Then we can push the rest [12:35] and then you see new ones between the other processes all the time [12:35] * sil2100 has lunch now more or less [12:35] sil2100, thanks [12:35] ogra_: i'd really like to see the logs of any that took less than 200s*.6=2 minutes to give up and die [12:36] ogra_: as those are other issues beyond this whoopsie one [12:36] unless [12:36] hold on [12:36] i might be talking about a fix not yet on trunk [12:36] so it might just be trying the once [12:36] * Chipaca looks at the changelog he's getting ready for trunk [12:37] ogra_: right, so the image have an updated libwhoopsie and not an updated push, so it *won't* be trying 200 times each, just the 10 from upstart [12:38] and so, yes, you'll see 10 very quick push-clients dying off, and probably no push running after [12:41] Chipaca: I'd rather not introduce that inconsistency and have two different ways of getting a system identifier. It has problems, but wouldn't you run into the same ones with anything custom? [12:42] ev: I'd run into a bunch of problems you care about but I don't :) [12:42] such as? :) [12:42] ev: as having a new id on a fresh reinstall is not a problem for me [12:43] that's the narrow-minded "me", there; I do of course understand why using whoopsie would be better, but. [12:43] so I thought we agreed that we'd cache the identifier to the filesystem on first generation? [12:44] wouldn't that solve the problem of not being able to talk to ofono for you? [12:44] ev: yeah. But AFAIK there was a bunch of refactoring associated, and we don't have time (or do we?) [12:45] ev: the problem here isn't not talking to ofono; it's the interfaces all being down. Not talking to ofono would be the next problem down the line :) [12:45] well, I still think a refactor to use a file-based cache is cheaper than writing something from scratch [12:45] and indeed :) [12:46] ev: for my narrow jfdi needs, a uuid in ~/.config/ would suffice, i fear. In any case, not going to do it now. [12:46] 's a bug, not a feature === gnu is now known as Guest26275 [12:48] ? [12:48] Chipaca, ev , why dont you use /var/lib/dbus/machine-id ? that should be unique [12:49] ogra_: nope, not unique [12:49] Chipaca, huh ? [12:49] that would be a super serious bug then [12:50] it needs to be generated on first start of dbus [12:50] if it is not and you find two identical ones on two different devices thats definitely a bug [12:50] ogra_: when I've checked, it wasn't a 128-bit uuid; maybe that's changed? [12:51] its just a hash ... not sure if it is supposed to be 128bit [12:51] in any case it is unique per device [12:51] reading the spec, it's a 128 bit uuid [12:52] running it on my desktop gives me something believable [12:52] 4f5c8eccce900cc3c236deax53a7fdfb [12:52] looks like 128 bits to me [12:52] well, and on the phone you dont ? [12:52] I don't have a phone atm [12:53] well, here it is different between devices and also 33 chars long ... [12:53] so i assume its similar to what you have on desktop [12:54] that would cover my use case. It doesn't cover ev's, though. [12:54] as he needs it to be the same id on reinstall [12:55] that wont work [12:55] if you reinstall with --wipe it will format the partitions [12:55] err [12:55] with --bootstrap [12:55] seb128: whats going on? [12:55] thats what we do with all devices in the lab, with all QA test devices etc [12:56] ricmm, unity8 desktop segfaults on start, in qtsensors code, since your update from yesterday, downgrading make it work back [12:57] seb128, hold it rotated in portatrait then :P [12:57] *portrait [12:57] * seb128 turns ogra_ in landscape mode [12:58] seb128: do you have the stack trace? [12:58] seb128: we've got to call him ‾ɐɹƃo now? [12:58] :) [12:58] haha [12:58] ricmm, getting one, I first downgraded to give a workaround to bschaefer, they are having a sprint and it was impacting them in their work there [12:58] k [12:58] Chipaca, ;-) [12:58] seb128, confirmed that sensor package fixed the issue. Thanks! [12:59] bschaefer, yw! [13:03] jibel, ah, hm, could you add that to the bug? [13:03] ricmm, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7695008/ [13:03] mhr3, I updated the description. [13:04] mm [13:04] qtubuntu-0.54+14.10.20140613 [13:04] that looks wrong === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:05] seb128: we are at 23.3 [13:05] ricmm, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtubuntu [13:05] ? [13:05] oh sorry its crashing in qtubuntu not sensors [13:05] got it [13:05] but it's the qtubuntu-sensors update that makes it crash [13:06] because downgrading that binary to https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-005/+build/6112664/+files/qtubuntu-sensors_0.6%2B14.10.20140619-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb makes it run [13:06] yea I got that [13:06] k [13:06] ok give me some minutes [13:06] you don't get the issue locally? [13:06] I do [13:07] good, makes debugging easier ;-) [13:07] I'll push a fix with a qtubuntu-sensors landing I have silo'd right now [13:07] thanks [13:07] seb128: what version did you downgrade to ? [13:10] ricmm, I gave you the url just ^ ;-) [13:10] ricmm, 14.10.20140619-0ubuntu1 [13:10] the previous one in utopic [13:10] yea, found the issue [13:10] great [13:10] sorry about that [13:11] no worry [13:11] bschaefer: sorry [13:11] hopefully will push this soon [13:11] we need some sort of testing in place to make sure that phone landing stop making the desktop not start [13:11] ricmm, no worries, got sorted out quickly! [13:11] it has been happening a few times recently [13:11] that was my bad, I've been testing unity8 desktop since the previous stuff [13:11] not really sure why I didnt yesterday when landing this [13:12] I'll make it more explicit in the test plan [13:12] thanks [14:00] how to install ubuntu touch on chinesse mobile phone? === pete-woods-lunch is now known as pete-woods [14:16] joke_art: is it a chinese google nexus 4? [14:19] no, it's chinesse android phone, not nexus, neither xiaomi or meizu [14:19] then you probably will need to port to the device [14:20] how? [14:24] !porting | joke_art [14:25] !devices | joke_art [14:25] joke_art: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [14:25] if your phone isn't on that list, you probably need to port it. there should be a link to the porting guide somewhere on there [14:33] good morning everyone [14:34] how do I simulate getting a text message on the phone? [14:37] frecel: pitti may know via phone sim I believe? [14:38] popey: I have good news, I finished a couple of things from last week yesterday and took the rest of the week off to work on the podcacher [14:38] frecel: check out the autopilot tests of lp:messaging-app, they do that [14:39] it's not that simple (you have to control phonesim via the Qt scripting), but it works well [14:40] frecel: yay [14:40] pitti: so you're saying it would be easier to just get someone to send me a text message? [14:42] frecel: gimmie your number, happy to test ☻ [14:42] ogra_, question, how are android groups added to /etc/group? [14:43] popey: let me check if maybe someone has submitted the bug I'm trying to replicate first [14:43] frecel: for an one-off manual test, yes; for writing a test which you need to run a lot, definitively not :) it's just a copy&paste exercise [14:44] frecel: well, feel free to send me a text and I'll reply. my phone number is at te bottom of all my mails [14:46] popey: don't you already have my phone number? [14:47] no ☹ [14:47] not in this phone [14:47] seb128: can you test silo 005 when qtubuntu-sensors is done publishing in there? [14:47] both packages, platform-api and qtubuntu-sensors [14:48] abeato, during build by live-build [14:48] ogra_, how can I add one? I need the media group for an OEM [14:49] ricmm, sure [14:49] frecel: sent [14:50] popey: thanks [14:50] dednick: ping [14:50] abeato, in livecd-rootfs ... in live-build/ubuntu-touch/hooks/02-add_user_to_groups.chroot [14:51] tedg: hey, I have this work item: add policy for InfographicConfinement (which refers to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Specifications/InfographicConfinement). I'm not sure of the status of this [14:52] nik90: hi. [14:52] jdstrand, The person to ask would be pete-woods, I think there's a silo coming for it. [14:52] dednick: hey, I was told by charles that you would be the person to talk to about using Dbus property calls in qml [14:53] ogra_, awesome, thanks [14:53] dednick: Do you happen to know how that can be done? The indicator-datetime package will set a dbus property which I need to read from a confined clock app. [14:53] jdstrand: basically we (might?) need a template for infographic "tools" [14:53] dednick: I need to know how read and write into a Dbus property in QML. [14:53] https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1333740 [14:53] Ubuntu bug 1333740 in Ubuntu Music App "Playback stops when a text message is recieved" [Undecided,New] [14:53] these are executables that read in some data from .cache, and spit out an SVG to stdout [14:54] nik90, well as per jdstrand's comments yesterday it'll probably be old-fashioned dbus getter/setter methods rather than genuine org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties [14:54] pete-woods: can you let me know when you are ready for me to proceed? note, I am off next week [14:55] charles: true I would still need to know if I can access those getter/setter methods via QML [14:55] nik90: what kind of property is it? [14:55] charles: can you answer that ^^ [14:55] nik90: is it just a dbus property, or is it exposed through an gaction? [14:55] nik90, dednick, the getters/setters instead of properties is because apparmor can only mediate to the method [14:56] dednick, this would be for getting/setting some alarm config options, eg alarm volume, duration, default sound filename [14:56] jdstrand: well at the moment, you can just use a normal app template, which will presumably give you access to the same stuff that your co-packaged app has access to [14:56] if that's fine from a security angle, then there may be nothing else to do [14:56] nik90: ok, in that case, i think you'll need to write a qml component in c++ to connect to the dbus property. Not sure if there's dbus built into qml. [14:56] dednick, what nik90 and I haven't done is dbus getter method calls inside of qml, so that's the part we're looking for info on [14:58] dednick: Do you happen to have a link or name to the qt c++ class which allows for dbus getter/setter method calls? [14:58] pete-woods: since it is just the app's data, that should be fine from a security POV, though I thought that people wanted to have it be very strict, eg, no networking, etc [14:58] nik90: sure. give me a minute to find an example [14:58] pete-woods: I also have this work item: "provide apparmor profile for gettext process for infographic" [14:58] nik90: there is no standard class. need to write your own. [14:58] pete-woods: that is from like 13.10-- is that just handled by this helper now? [14:59] pete-woods: or is that still relevant [14:59] dednick: oh..the example would help in that case since I have not interacted with dbus calls before [15:00] jdstrand: I think that's pretty much unrelated and irrelevant now === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [15:00] that was for the old architecture [15:00] ok, cool [15:00] nik90: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/trunk/view/head:/plugins/Powerd/Powerd.cpp [15:01] popey: can you help me confirm another bug? This one is pretty weird [15:01] of course [15:01] popey: start playing music on the phone and turn the screen off, then start rotating the phone and tap on the screen at the same time [15:02] do i need to dance a jig too? [15:02] nik90: it's not really the best example. that's conneting to a signal. [15:02] popey: it might help [15:02] nik90: let me see if i can find something better [15:02] dednick: I got to see it use QDbus which I can read more about [15:03] I paused the music a few times by doing that even though the screen was off [15:03] hm, i cant even find the music app on my device [15:03] and once somehow opened a dailer and almost made a phonecall, with the screen off [15:04] need to debug more [15:05] frecel: nothing when i rotate and tap [15:06] popey: tap really fast in random spots, I did that by rotating the phone with one hand and tapping fast all over the screen [15:06] popey: there must be some sweet spot because I found this yesterday by simply grabbing the phone when it was playing music [15:08] nik90: ok. well this example is a bit complex, but base yours on the "CallIndicatorVisible" property. [15:08] nik90: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/telephony-service/trunk/view/head:/libtelephonyservice/callmanager.cpp [15:08] nik90: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/telephony-service/trunk/view/head:/libtelephonyservice/callmanager.h [15:09] popey: I just replicated this two more times on my phone and the third time the whole thing crashed and I had to reboot [15:10] dednick: thnx [15:13] popey: ok the rotation thing seems to be irrelevant now [15:14] dednick, does this approach make sense, or would there be a better way of exporting settings from i-datetime to clock-app for nik90 to use? [15:14] popey: but if you turn the screen off while all the music controls are on screen you should be able to use them [15:16] lemme see [15:17] pete-woods: so, with the InfographicConfinement, does the visualizer need any additional rules for the confinement, or does the standard template wholly cover it? [15:18] frecel: music app is missing on my phone #95 [15:18] jdstrand: the standard template will wholly cover it, although I'm sure it can be argued that it could be confined further [15:19] although if you've installed an app in the same click package, that can already go on the network, etc [15:19] pete-woods: ah, that is food [15:19] good [15:19] food = good :) [15:19] hehe [15:19] popey: haha, I'm still on 94, I might wait until 96 to update :D [15:20] will the visualizer have its own entry in the hooks db (ie appname), or is the visualizer hook in the app's entry? (ie, do the visualizer and the hook have the same appname? [15:20] pete-woods: ^ [15:21] jdstrand: they will most likely share the same appname [15:21] as the whole point of the visualiser is to read data that the app has written out [15:22] pete-woods: right, but appname isn't needed for that since it is the pkgname ("name" in click manifest) that is used for those app specific directories [15:22] specifically so that a dev could ship multiple apps and share data [15:22] ah yes, that makes sense [15:23] I guess it could be in its own hook, then [15:23] if the appname's are not the same, then I can simply adjust the reviewers tools to not allow any policygroups when it is a visualizer [15:23] and then we don't need a separate template [15:23] s/appname's/appnames/ [15:24] you would need to specify the security policy twice though, but that would keep things quite clean and make sure that the infographic can't talk to things on dbus, etc [15:24] charles: meh. dbus properties seems like the logical place to me. unless they're to be used in the indicators as well. [15:25] and it wouldn't extend the policy of the infographic helper in case the app was specially confined or unconfined [15:25] pete-woods: thoughts? [15:26] jdstrand: I've just realised I'm talking nonsense [15:26] working on too many things at once [15:26] sorry (I know the feeling) [15:27] the visualisers actually read stuff from ~/.cache/usermetrics/tmp/ [15:27] and this is the only directory they need to read [15:27] ah, so they need special confinement [15:27] ie, their own template [15:28] I think https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Specifications/InfographicConfinement needs to be updated [15:28] pete-woods: could you update that sometime before you are ready for me to do my part? [15:29] jdstrand: will do, sure [15:29] popey: why are you torturing people with OCD? http://i.imgur.com/cA9cGlF.png [15:31] pete-woods: thanks! note, I don't expect this to be particularly complicated, I just want to make sure we are on the same page and moving in the same direction :) === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [15:32] jdstrand: yep, that makes sense to me [15:40] jhodapp: for https://code.launchpad.net/~albaguirre/media-hub/use-new-dbus-interface-for-display/+merge/223338 [15:40] alberto_: hey [15:40] jhodapp: dbus-cpp will throw an exception when the interfaces are not found [15:40] alberto_: yeah I was wondering that...I replied to your comments on that MR [15:41] frecel: fixed your ocd [15:41] jhodapp: you can try the landing-020 ppa [15:41] jhodapp: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7695647/ [15:42] alberto_: perfect thanks [15:45] jhodapp: ok I wil add the try-catch blocks [15:46] alberto_: thanks...does the compositor start automatically on boot? [15:46] jhodapp: yes it does [15:46] cool [15:47] rebooting [15:48] alberto_: yep, that was the issue [15:48] alberto_: once you add the try/catch blocks, I'll approve the MR [15:48] alberto_: the rest of the code looks good [15:48] jhodapp: cool thanks [15:49] jhodapp: is there any logging in media-hub? [15:49] alberto_: not anything formal, just use cout/cerr [15:50] jdstrand: I've started getting this error - ERROR: Invalid policy version for 'com.ubuntu.scope-click_scope-click_1.0.0.json'. Skipping [15:50] jhodapp: ok [15:50] jdstrand: do you have any suggestions what might be causing it? [15:50]