| Unit193 | bluesabre: Speaking of which, how much, or what info do you want me to pass along when I get it? | 00:51 |
|---|---|---|
| bluesabre | "it?" | 00:52 |
| Unit193 | it=info | 00:53 |
| bluesabre | suppose I'll take any info available | 00:55 |
| Unit193 | knome: So when should we finish those translation things? | 05:12 |
| Unit193 | How do you tell who has commit access to an Xfce repo? | 06:15 |
| cub | morning knome, are you around? | 07:00 |
| ali1234 | Unit193: check the commit log basically. and filter out any commits containing the word "translation" - which is about 97% of them | 07:15 |
| knome | Unit193, "some day" | 07:42 |
| knome | Unit193, i'll have suitable computer time probably next week | 07:42 |
| knome | cub, what's up? | 07:42 |
| cub | Hi knome, I was updating a test installation of the Ubuntu Studio site and have some weird caching issues when doing changes in the theme. Thought you might now something about that? | 07:53 |
| cub | for instance when I change a colour in reset.css it doesn't apply until later, randomly | 07:53 |
| knome | cub, there's no caching in the theme so it must come from (a) wordpress (plugin) or the server | 08:00 |
| knome | wordpress itself does not cache | 08:00 |
| cub | that's what I thought, but I only get this behaviour on the ubuntu studio theme. | 08:01 |
| cub | thanks knome | 08:02 |
| knome | that's weird | 08:02 |
| knome | what you can do is access the reset.css directly in your browser and hard refresh | 08:03 |
| cub | yup did that. It has the new settings but still the browser show the old colour. Cleared all my caches and even tried another browser | 08:04 |
| cub | then after I got coffee it changed. | 08:04 |
| cub | So I did another change...and is still waiting for it to show. :P strange. | 08:04 |
| cub | anyway, then I know there's no secret stuff hidden somewhere | 08:05 |
| knome | :) | 08:05 |
| elfy | ochosi: I did actually see that mail - but didn't say anything :) | 08:50 |
| ochosi | elfy: what mail? | 08:56 |
| bluesabre | ochosi, knome, any feedback? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeanDavis/DeveloperApplication | 10:34 |
| elfy | ochosi: the alpha participation one | 10:57 |
| elfy | just so you know I'm at that list and watch for those things | 11:04 |
| ochosi | ah good, thanks elfy | 11:10 |
| bluesabre | ochosi, knome, feel free to add support in the Comments section there too ;) | 11:10 |
| ochosi | will do! | 11:10 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: is it on purpose that you don't list mugshot and menulibre in areas of involvement? | 11:18 |
| ochosi | err, areas of work | 11:18 |
| ochosi | i mean you do mention them, but a lot more briefly | 11:18 |
| bluesabre | that section indicated that it was work done with other devs, suppose I should add them anyway | 11:18 |
| ochosi | and after all, two of them you've written from scratch and one of them you've practically re-done | 11:18 |
| ochosi | ah right | 11:19 |
| ochosi | i guess i should take a look at the template... | 11:19 |
| ochosi | btw, light-locker-settings is missing | 11:19 |
| ochosi | if you wanna mention that | 11:19 |
| bluesabre | oh yeah | 11:19 |
| ochosi | we can drop the screensaver part of lls in 14.10 hopefully btw | 11:19 |
| ochosi | all hail xfpm :) | 11:20 |
| bluesabre | woot | 11:20 |
| ochosi | that is also quite good because it means users have more finegrain control over blanking/dpms again | 11:20 |
| ochosi | with on-ac and on-battery settings | 11:20 |
| ochosi | so yeah, the lls dialog will shrink | 11:21 |
| ochosi | ideally the lock on suspend button will also go away in some way | 11:21 |
| ochosi | then there'll only be two more settings left in lls... | 11:22 |
| ochosi | elfy: ever heard of slack? | 13:22 |
| ochosi | i figured i'd point you to it (since you're the "new team tools" guy). i just started trying it a bit as the elementary folks are using it and invited me to join | 13:23 |
| ochosi | https://slack.com/is | 13:23 |
| knome | bluesabre, got to get to that later | 14:05 |
| elfy | ochosi: no not seen that - and I was then "new team tools" guy once | 14:11 |
| ochosi | elfy: once "new team tools"-guy, always "new team tools"-guy ;D | 14:19 |
| elfy | no thanks ;) | 14:22 |
| ali1234 | wheeeeee a bug | 17:30 |
| ali1234 | apparently my transer will be complete in ~11 million years | 17:31 |
| ali1234 | https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9743 | 17:55 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 9743 in core "Thunar incorrectly calc time and file size when copying files" [Normal,New] | 17:56 |
| ochosi | ali1234: heh, those dialogs have never spoken "the truth" though | 20:56 |
| ali1234 | yeah but this is a straight up bug | 20:59 |
| ali1234 | also network copy is broken | 20:59 |
| ochosi | humm | 20:59 |
| ochosi | i was thinking of this though: http://xkcd.com/612/ | 20:59 |
| ali1234 | when it fails to copy a file, it delete the failed copy, then uploads it again under a temporary name, then copies it to the correct name. the copy downloads and uploads the file again. | 20:59 |
| ali1234 | that is probably a gvfs bug though | 21:00 |
| ali1234 | 11 million years is blatantly an integer overflow... | 21:00 |
| ali1234 | the estimate can be innaccurate but not *that* innacurate | 21:01 |
| ochosi | :) | 21:02 |
| ali1234 | this happens because it thinks the download is more than 100% complete | 21:02 |
| ochosi | elfy: thanks for adding the links to the agenda, i guess i was too lazy for that... (as was Unit193) | 21:03 |
| ali1234 | which is a bug in itself not related to the time calculation | 21:03 |
| ochosi | so it's a combination of a thunar bug and a gvfs bug | 21:03 |
| ali1234 | nah, they are two different bugs | 21:03 |
| ali1234 | when thunar retries a download, it doesn't subtract the failed bytes from the total transfered amount | 21:04 |
| ali1234 | and when you move/rename a file on a gvfs samba share, it downloads the file and uploads it again under the new name, which is incredibly innefficient | 21:04 |
| ochosi | yeah, that would explain why i've always used scp or rsync for remote transfers in lieu of thunar | 21:06 |
| ali1234 | either one can be reproduced separately | 21:06 |
| ali1234 | i just happened to hit them both at the same time | 21:06 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Hmm? | 21:07 |
| ochosi | Unit193: the meeting page, nvm | 21:12 |
| Unit193 | I won't be there. | 21:12 |
| elfy | it'll go on the m/l | 21:12 |
| Unit193 | Just informin' | 21:15 |
| elfy | I doubt very much if you'll be the only one | 21:16 |
| * ochosi will try | 21:16 | |
| elfy | ochosi: you expecting a vote for inxi and hexcaht? | 21:16 |
| ochosi | nope | 21:17 |
| ochosi | well, let's say i hope there won't be votes, both seem straightforward changes | 21:17 |
| Unit193 | Should I say I'm +1 both? | 21:17 |
| elfy | ochosi: really? | 21:17 |
| ochosi | yeah, not bad | 21:17 |
| elfy | hexchat won't get a +1 from me atm - even if it is active | 21:18 |
| ochosi | elfy: well i presume you'll raise concerns about hexchat, but inxi seems straight forward | 21:18 |
| elfy | yep | 21:18 |
| ochosi | thing is, i don't use xchat or hexchat and haven't used graphical irc apps for a loooong time | 21:18 |
| elfy | :) | 21:19 |
| ochosi | i'm even wondering whether we should ship one at all, because we have pidgin and all | 21:19 |
| elfy | one of those things I guess | 21:20 |
| elfy | I wonder why we ship gimp - never use that :) | 21:20 |
| Unit193 | Hey andrzejr: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10509 and https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10627 have patches in them that are fairly well tested (they're in Xubuntu), would you consider pushing? | 21:20 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10509 in General "Set as wallpaper doesnt work (xfdesktop-4.11)" [Normal,Reopened] | 21:21 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10627 in general "Use the new Gtk3 bookmarks location" [Normal,New] | 21:21 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Pidgin isn't IRC. | 21:21 |
| elfy | but it *works* for it | 21:21 |
| ochosi | Unit193: pidgin might not *be* irc, but it does it | 21:22 |
| ochosi | thing is, we want a lean package-set still | 21:23 |
| ochosi | irc is mostly there for support, it's not "productivity" | 21:23 |
| ochosi | so as long as it works... | 21:23 |
| * ochosi quietly apologizes for the implicit flip-flop on his earlier "both seem straightforward" position | 21:24 | |
| elfy | lol | 21:24 |
| Unit193 | I'm still +1 to both, but dropping one doesn't sound too bad. | 21:38 |
| ochosi | i guess we could try to figure out whether we can set up pidgin easily so that it does what we want | 21:40 |
| ochosi | (connect to freenode and open #xubuntu, e.g. when clicked from the slideshow or whatever other place) | 21:40 |
| ochosi | Unit193: care to take a look at that ^`? | 21:41 |
| ali1234 | pidgin is best irc | 21:41 |
| ochosi | ali1234: can we set up the config for it to do that by default though? | 21:43 |
| ochosi | seems with xchat it wasn't possible and it isn't with hexchat either | 21:43 |
| Unit193 | Because of a shared repo with Ubuntu. | 21:44 |
| ali1234 | probably not | 21:45 |
| ali1234 | i think we should ship seamonkey instead of firefox :) | 21:45 |
| elfy | I vote for IE6 | 21:45 |
| Unit193 | Opera. | 21:45 |
| ali1234 | it's faster, smaller, uses gtk2... unfortunately it's not in the repos :) | 21:46 |
| Unit193 | I rather like Xombrero, personally. | 21:46 |
| ochosi | oh lord, what have i done... | 21:47 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Started browser wars. | 21:47 |
| elfy | ochosi: you said it was straightforward - remember not to do that again :p | 21:48 |
| Unit193 | So much worse than libreoffice vs gnome office. Next up, text editor wars. | 21:48 |
| elfy | anyway - I'm done for today - cya tomorrow | 21:49 |
| ochosi | Unit193: well for text editors we at least have a xfce app | 21:52 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Midori. | 21:52 |
| ali1234 | what is the mate gedit fork called? we should ship that | 21:53 |
| Unit193 | gmate | 21:54 |
| ochosi | Unit193: midori isn't xfce anymore | 21:54 |
| ali1234 | no, pluma | 21:55 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Still developed by the same people, IIRC. | 21:55 |
| Unit193 | But anywho. | 21:55 |
| ali1234 | i drank some mate the other day. it is weird | 21:55 |
| ochosi | Unit193: yeah, well, pretty much. i wouldn't mind that, but we'd also have to switch to a different email app | 21:55 |
| ali1234 | when you brew it, it's bright yellow | 21:55 |
| ali1234 | but if you leave it for like half an hour it turns bright green | 21:55 |
| Unit193 | ...That's worrying. | 21:56 |
| ochosi | yeah, mate tea is great | 21:56 |
| ochosi | has lotsa caffeine | 21:56 |
| ochosi | yummy | 21:56 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: I was kidding, midori isn't so great and is outdated in Debian. | 21:56 |
| ali1234 | tastes exactly like green tea | 21:56 |
| ali1234 | probably similar caffeine content | 21:56 |
| Unit193 | Has anyone helped review the Suite C testcases? | 21:58 |
| ochosi | Unit193: humm, the ones in the staging ppa all failed to build | 22:46 |
| ochosi | https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xubuntu-staging | 22:47 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Talked to blues last night about that, xfpm is a weird failure that I should fix, parole was a stupid mistake on my part that's been fixed. | 22:48 |
| ochosi | ah cool | 22:50 |
| bluesabre | hey guys | 23:00 |
| ochosi | righty, so i've tested slack for a day, not too bad, i have to say | 23:00 |
| ochosi | intuitive ui and good overview, history search etc | 23:00 |
| bluesabre | cool, does it do much more than irc + google drive? | 23:00 |
| ochosi | the history-search is quite useful | 23:01 |
| ochosi | and the backlog is endless | 23:01 |
| bluesabre | cool | 23:01 |
| ochosi | so ppl don't need a remote login in order not to miss anything | 23:01 |
| ochosi | i think you can also somehow group conversations with a topic or something | 23:01 |
| ochosi | haven't looked into that very much though | 23:02 |
| Unit193 | You said slack, I'm thinking OS. | 23:03 |
| ochosi | right yeah, not that | 23:03 |
| Unit193 | ochosi, bluesabre: You haz mail. | 23:05 |
| knome | pleia2, marketing lead: https://twitter.com/Avanninen/status/477714055520862208 | 23:12 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Danke. | 23:19 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: sure thing | 23:28 |
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