| bac | hola huwshimi | 00:33 |
|---|---|---|
| huwshimi | bac: Hey :) | 00:33 |
| huwshimi | rick_h_: Any feelings on what keyboard shortcut we should use for hiding the sidebar? | 00:40 |
| huwshimi | rick_h_: I was thinking Shift+f for "fullscreen" | 00:40 |
| huwshimi | or full-width or something | 00:42 |
| rick_h_ | huwshimi: oh hmm, didn't think about it...ponderings | 01:54 |
| rick_h_ | wish we could use S but that's taken | 01:54 |
| huwshimi | yeah | 01:55 |
| rick_h_ | huwshimi: h? for hide | 01:56 |
| rick_h_ | f would be ok, I'm just used to thinking of things like f11 fullscreen and such in browsers | 01:56 |
| rick_h_ | so when I'm in a browser 'fullscreen' means a bit different, or like image galleries that go 'fullscreen' with the pic | 01:57 |
| huwshimi | yeah | 01:57 |
| huwshimi | rick_h_: I'm happy with 'h' | 01:57 |
| rick_h_ | huwshimi: ok, let's roll with that until someone wants to have a debate on it :) | 01:57 |
| huwshimi | rick_h_: OK :) | 01:58 |
| huwshimi | rick_h_: I'm happy to drag this out a bit more now if you prefer? :) | 01:58 |
| rick_h_ | huwshimi: hah, that's ok. I'm done debating stuff today | 01:59 |
| === _mup__ is now known as _mup_ | ||
| rick_h_ | morning | 11:14 |
| === jcsackett is now known as idioteque | ||
| === idioteque is now known as foobarbazqux | ||
| bac | morning | 12:11 |
| rick_h_ | morn | 12:13 |
| * rogpeppe lunches | 12:37 | |
| * rick_h_ is changing locations and heading to the coffee shop | 12:53 | |
| bac | rick_h_: you relocated? | 13:11 |
| rick_h_ | bac: yep | 13:11 |
| rick_h_ | sorry, coffee in hand now ready to face the rest of the day | 13:11 |
| bac | rick_h_: hey, for the ci instance do you have the environements .jenv file? it is my understanding that sharing that is the only way to collaborate on juju environments. | 13:11 |
| rick_h_ | bac: aha, ok yes I do have it. However, I just realized my router is not setup to let me ssh home to my desktop to get it. (new routers ftw and fml) | 13:12 |
| rick_h_ | bac: thinking, I have a GUI on that instance and will see if I can find the address and get into it at all. | 13:13 |
| bac | rick_h_: for charmworld we have a private branch with the tools to get it up and running. we then commit the .jenv file and push it back up to LP. | 13:13 |
| rick_h_ | bac: ok, can work on setting that up. I'll add a card to maint to get the files in. | 13:14 |
| bac | cool | 13:14 |
| bac | rick_h_: the trusty jenkins-slave charm has been ingested and is available. i'm going to experiment with it on ec2 | 13:14 |
| rick_h_ | bac: ok cool | 13:15 |
| rick_h_ | bac: I'm trying to see if I have the info to get into the GUI on there atm. Worst case I'll be heading home before stand up | 13:15 |
| bac | ok | 13:15 |
| rick_h_ | just like to get out of the way of the cleaners | 13:15 |
| bac | our isp went south today so i'm at coworking spot. nice change of scenery. | 13:16 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I've not been coming out here much. In one way nice, put on the noise cancelling headphones and more light | 13:16 |
| rick_h_ | but then there's those people around you talking about politics and disasters on one side and religious ones on the other side of me | 13:17 |
| rick_h_ | bac: ok, sending gui info in pm | 13:19 |
| bac | rick_h_: also, what's the utility in making the internal IP address clickable? | 13:45 |
| rick_h_ | bac: well if you're on that network (openstack?) you might be able to reach it? | 13:47 |
| rick_h_ | or vpn'd or something | 13:47 |
| rick_h_ | bac: I admit it's probably not somethings used very often | 13:47 |
| bac | rick_h_: i understand how to configure jenkins-slave now. i'm going to add one to our CI instance. | 13:55 |
| rick_h_ | bac: rgr, sounds good | 13:55 |
| foobarbazqux | rick_h_: what do you use for volume control/display in awesomewm? | 14:02 |
| === foobarbazqux is now known as jcsackett | ||
| jcsackett | ...and who has been messing with my IRC configs... | 14:02 |
| rick_h_ | jcsackett: no, I just launch pavu<tab> | 14:03 |
| rick_h_ | and use that | 14:03 |
| jcsackett | rick_h_: pavu<tab>? you mean pavuk? b/c that's the only pavu command i see. | 14:04 |
| rick_h_ | sec otp | 14:04 |
| jcsackett | rick_h_: ok, no hurray. | 14:05 |
| jcsackett | ...i cannot type this morning. | 14:05 |
| * jcsackett goes for more coffee | 14:05 | |
| rick_h_ | jcsackett: bah, I can't login to my home machine atm | 14:22 |
| rick_h_ | jcsackett: I think it's pavucontrol | 14:22 |
| rick_h_ | the pulse audio control thingy | 14:22 |
| jcsackett | rick_h_: ah, ok. thanks. i'll dig into that. | 14:22 |
| bac | rick_h_: you home now? | 14:43 |
| kadams54 | Getting a "this party is over" message in Google Hangouts for the standup room. | 14:50 |
| hatch | jujugui call in 9 | 14:51 |
| hatch | kadams54 working fine here - are you clicking the link in the calendar? | 14:52 |
| kadams54 | tinyurl.com/jujugui | 14:52 |
| hatch | that's not the link :) | 14:52 |
| kadams54 | Yeah, I know, but I'm having problems getting into my calendar via the web UI | 14:53 |
| kadams54 | So all I have is what my desktop calendar app gives me | 14:53 |
| rick_h_ | bac: home now | 14:54 |
| rick_h_ | bac: what's up? | 14:54 |
| kadams54 | hatch or rick_h_ : can you paste the real URL in IRC? | 14:56 |
| rick_h_ | kadams54: will do | 14:56 |
| hatch | kadams54 odd google.com/calendar is up and fast for me | 14:56 |
| rick_h_ | kadams54: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/daily-standup?authuser=1 watch the authuser based on your setup | 14:56 |
| kadams54 | hatch: the problem is with my 2FA | 14:56 |
| hatch | oh, you hit it so many times it's probably out of synx | 14:57 |
| hatch | sync | 14:57 |
| kadams54 | hatch: potentially, yeah, but I was hoping to fix it after standup | 14:57 |
| kadams54 | rick_h_: still getting that message, but I suspect that's because I'm not logged into my canonical account right now. Could you invite my kadams54@gmail.com account? | 14:58 |
| rick_h_ | kadams54: create a privte tab and login fresh in there with 2fa | 14:59 |
| rick_h_ | kadams54: and then you can settle this out after the call | 14:59 |
| rick_h_ | kadams54: at this point I normally have to log out of everything google related and resetup accounts | 14:59 |
| kadams54 | rick_h_: yeah, I'm using a private tab, but I can't log into my canonical account at all. Can't get past the 2FA step. | 15:00 |
| hatch | kadams54 I 'think' 2fa gets out of sync if you hit it 3 times without logging in....I'm not sure how to fix beyond that | 15:14 |
| rick_h_ | bac: so if you crontab -e as the jenkins user you can see the backup job and the lander cron job listed there | 15:19 |
| bac | cool | 15:19 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: did you need another set of eyes on kadams54's or huw's landing issues? | 15:20 |
| hatch | rick_h_ I should be ok - I'm going to leave kadams54 until he gets back | 15:21 |
| hatch | he said he has a solution | 15:21 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: ok let me know if you need a hand | 15:21 |
| * rick_h_ goes back to typing lots of words per minute | 15:21 | |
| hatch | will do | 15:23 |
| hatch | rick_h_ shift+h hides the sidebar? That's a little too common of a key combo imho | 15:33 |
| rick_h_ | oh, thought it was control h | 15:33 |
| rick_h_ | maybe huw and I crossed wires on the first key | 15:33 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: I'd suggest going with control-h | 15:34 |
| rick_h_ | the thought was 'hide' | 15:34 |
| hatch | ohhh ok that would make more sense | 15:34 |
| hatch | yeah it's definitely shift in his branch :) | 15:34 |
| bac | rick_h_: can you 'juju ssh trusty-slave/0' after switching to azure-ci? if so, could you 'ssh-import-id bac' on that machine? i thought just having the .jenv would allow me to ssh in but it does not. | 15:34 |
| rick_h_ | bac: done | 15:35 |
| bac | ty | 15:35 |
| hatch | rick_h_ ctrl+h === backspace on my computer can you test on yours? | 15:36 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: oh hmm, well that sucks | 15:36 |
| rick_h_ | alt-h? | 15:36 |
| hatch | that prints a . up at the top of the line | 15:37 |
| hatch | so i'd be ok with that :) | 15:37 |
| hatch | works on your machine? | 15:37 |
| hatch | ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ | 15:37 |
| hatch | interesting.... | 15:37 |
| hatch | :) | 15:37 |
| rick_h_ | I don't know, I mean it's up to the browser. I'd be happy to QA it | 15:37 |
| rick_h_ | I don't get the dots you do | 15:38 |
| hatch | oh ok, well I'd be happy to go with either ctrl or alt really... | 15:38 |
| hatch | i'd probably prefer ctrl+h | 15:38 |
| hatch | ? | 15:38 |
| rick_h_ | well, if it goes through to the browser I'm ok with | 15:39 |
| rick_h_ | it | 15:39 |
| rick_h_ | if not, (the keyboard/OS captures it first) then alt-h? | 15:39 |
| hatch | sure | 15:39 |
| rick_h_ | can you just swap it out in yoru lcoal qa branch and give them a try? | 15:39 |
| hatch | I can | 15:40 |
| rick_h_ | man, going from the laptop at the coffee shop to the kenisis is messing up my order of chars today | 15:40 |
| hatch | haha - my keyboard stopped working the other day | 15:45 |
| hatch | I'm going to need a new one | 15:45 |
| hatch | well, it started working again | 15:45 |
| hatch | but that means it's on the way out heh | 15:45 |
| rick_h_ | hah, let me know if you need keyboard advise | 15:47 |
| rick_h_ | or need me to send you one or three | 15:47 |
| rick_h_ | make room in the closer for some more :) | 15:47 |
| hatch | ctrl+h works like a charm btw | 15:47 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: cool, I'm +1 on that | 15:48 |
| hatch | unless they are in an input | 15:48 |
| rick_h_ | which is fine imo | 15:48 |
| rick_h_ | well, maybe...debating | 15:48 |
| rick_h_ | but even alt-h will not work in an input field right? | 15:48 |
| hatch | right, just tested none of our keybindings work when the user is in an input | 15:49 |
| rick_h_ | ok, then sounds like a plan | 15:49 |
| rick_h_ | that's a bummer | 15:49 |
| hatch | yeah - maybe a slack task to get that fixed up | 15:49 |
| hatch | ok replied in kind to the pr | 15:52 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: since you have the branch down is there anything else with it? Is it reasonable to just land the change? | 15:55 |
| hatch | rick_h_ well there is more work than just that change, changing everywhere that says Shift+h to Ctrl+h.....but it wouldn't be hard, just mechanical | 15:57 |
| hatch | would you prefer I do that instead? | 15:57 |
| hatch | s/instead// | 15:57 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: ah up to you. If it's tiny and can move forward I'm +1 on it, but if it gets in your way never mind | 15:57 |
| hatch | it's ok I already have it pulled down so I can do it | 15:58 |
| hatch | huws other branch fails CI via failing tests so I'll leave that one up to him to fix | 15:58 |
| rick_h_ | +1 | 15:59 |
| hatch | why is it so hard to find the keynote streaming url | 16:00 |
| * rick_h_ goes to get food to prep for google fanboi keynote time | 16:00 | |
| rick_h_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtLJPvx7-ys | 16:00 |
| hatch | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtLJPvx7-ys | 16:00 |
| rick_h_ | because you didn't ask :P | 16:00 |
| hatch | heh | 16:00 |
| hatch | :D | 16:01 |
| rogpeppe | hatch, or anyone else: would you be able to join a call for a moment to talk about browser cross-site restriction stuff? | 16:01 |
| === tvansteenburgh1 is now known as tvansteenburgh | ||
| rogpeppe | hatch: and decent workarounds | 16:01 |
| rick_h_ | rogpeppe: sure, what do you need? | 16:01 |
| rogpeppe | rick_h_: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/macaroons?authuser=1 | 16:01 |
| rogpeppe | rick_h_: (or authuser=0) | 16:02 |
| hatch | oops sorry i stepped away, rick_h_ you got it? | 16:05 |
| hatch | blah I can't join anyways, I'm going to guess, yes :) | 16:08 |
| bac | man azure is not unslow | 16:08 |
| hatch | haha | 16:10 |
| jcsackett | Makyo: i've looked at your PR. only real question was "tests?" but there's a few more things on the PR. | 16:24 |
| Makyo | jcsackett, thanks; much of the code was already tested since it was just moved to new UX, but I'll see if there's more I can add around the edges. | 16:25 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: yea, think got it | 16:25 |
| hatch | great thanks | 16:25 |
| jcsackett | Makyo: yeah, i'm just nervous about a whole new viewlet that has no apparent tests. :p | 16:25 |
| hatch | sry bout that | 16:25 |
| Makyo | jcsackett, sure, makes sense. | 16:25 |
| Makyo | Tests could also use some reorganization to help that. | 16:26 |
| hatch | holy crap Material Design through Polymer | 16:28 |
| rick_h_ | hah! antdillon's auto colored stuff is in googleio keynote | 16:38 |
| rick_h_ | go antdillon | 16:38 |
| hatch | haha | 16:39 |
| antdillon | rick_h_, I copyrighted that! | 16:53 |
| rick_h_ | antdillon: hah | 16:54 |
| hatch | lol 55min commute....not bad | 17:04 |
| Makyo | I used to have one of those. | 17:05 |
| Makyo | I don't know that I'd call it "not bad". | 17:05 |
| hatch | haha right? I laughed when he said that | 17:06 |
| hatch | boooo the motorola watch isn't available yet | 17:16 |
| rick_h_ | 2/3 ain't bad | 17:16 |
| hatch | well I think the samsung one only works on samsung phones | 17:17 |
| hatch | at least that's what their old ones were | 17:17 |
| rick_h_ | there's a few of them out there | 17:17 |
| kadams54 | hatch: FYI, I committed and pushed a fix for that card… waiting to see how the PR CI build goes before I try shipping it again. https://github.com/kadams54/juju-gui/commit/b8ce6093e8dc4318babbf63038fc52c002fdc9c7 <-- the fix | 17:29 |
| kadams54 | rick_h_: where should I go to get my 2FA problems straightened out? The FAQ mentions the #isd and #is channels on IRC… | 17:31 |
| rick_h_ | kadams54: yea, in the canonical irc channels | 17:31 |
| kadams54 | Just #canonical, or should I join a specific channel? | 17:32 |
| hatch | kadams54 the canonical irc server | 17:33 |
| rick_h_ | kadams54: yea, sec | 17:33 |
| rick_h_ | kadams54: sent you a link in PM | 17:33 |
| kadams54 | thanks | 17:33 |
| bac | rick_h_: on azure i'm getting a weird error about not being able to find download tools. i think that is causing the relation hooks to not run. | 17:59 |
| bac | the error does not occur on ec2 with the same charm. | 18:00 |
| rick_h_ | bac: hmm, maybe I need to do some juju upgrade fu on there? | 18:00 |
| rick_h_ | I know people have gotten errors like that when there's streams issue | 18:00 |
| bac | jujugui: if we draw a relation does the gui wait for confirmation from the watcher before showing it? | 18:00 |
| bac | if the relation fails do we show the line? | 18:01 |
| bac | rick_h_: upgrading juju might not hurt | 18:01 |
| rick_h_ | bac: otp but will look in a bit | 18:07 |
| bac | rt | 18:07 |
| rick_h_ | bac: tried a juju upgrade-juju and it didn't do anything | 19:01 |
| bac | juju damn-juju | 19:01 |
| Makyo | juju kickstart | 19:02 |
| rick_h_ | bac: then tried with --upload-tools and got the error https://pastebin.canonical.com/112448/ | 19:02 |
| rick_h_ | bac: so looking at where to go from here. | 19:02 |
| bac | rick_h_: can you ssh in and upgrade via apt? | 19:02 |
| bac | i've never used upgrade-juju | 19:03 |
| rick_h_ | bac: does that work? /me hasn't seen that | 19:03 |
| bac | rick_h_: why wouldn't it? | 19:03 |
| rick_h_ | bac: no idea, I've never thought about it in that way | 19:03 |
| bac | oh, i just see it as another package. hope it doesn't blow anything out from under juju | 19:03 |
| rick_h_ | bac: so we'd have to add the ppa, because we want something later than precise right | 19:04 |
| rick_h_ | bac: yea, I'm not sure how the tools/machine 0/db and such interact tbh | 19:04 |
| bac | rick_h_: any chance it is provider-specific? | 19:04 |
| bac | the issue, i mean | 19:05 |
| rick_h_ | bac: I'm getting tempted to think CI is setup on an env that isn't shared correctly, on precise, on a 1.17 dev version of juju :/ | 19:05 |
| rick_h_ | bac: well I was thinking you could test by using the azure creds in the wiki, change the control bucket, and start a new env | 19:05 |
| rick_h_ | bac: and verify if the charms work together in a newer clean juju env | 19:05 |
| bac | rick_h_: so recreate a new CI env on azure for testing and possible migration? | 19:06 |
| rick_h_ | bac: maybe start with just seeing if it fixes the issue and removes azure as the issue | 19:06 |
| bac | sure | 19:06 |
| rick_h_ | bac: since it's cheap to tear down | 19:06 |
| bac | good plan | 19:06 |
| rick_h_ | bac: and if there's no issue, then we plot out a migration to a proper shared env | 19:06 |
| bac | rt | 19:07 |
| rick_h_ | doing things the right way vs the rick didn't know better way | 19:07 |
| bac | rick_h_: is storage-account-name the azure spelling for control-bucket? | 19:17 |
| rick_h_ | bac: double checking, but think so | 19:18 |
| rick_h_ | bac: yes | 19:19 |
| * rick_h_ goes for a walk around the block | 19:21 | |
| bac | hey rick_h_ it looks like you can't just change those values for azure like you can the control bucket. i think you have to go to their web site, login, enter a new value for storage-account-name and it'll spit out the new value for management-subscription-id | 19:41 |
| jcsackett | Makyo: i note you responded to my review but i haven't seen new commits. did you mean to push something, or is that still in progress? | 19:46 |
| * bac relocates | 20:30 | |
| hatch | lazypower are you reviewing today? | 20:54 |
| Makyo | jcsackett, still in progress moving the tests around - sorry for the delay, was on other laptop :( | 20:59 |
| jcsackett | Makyo: cool beans. :) | 21:12 |
| hatch | jujugui anyone use google play music? | 21:12 |
| lazypower | hatch: its marco and jcastro - did you need something? | 22:27 |
| hatch | lazypower ahh, I just want my ghost charm approved for this weekend so I can work on a blog post :) | 22:27 |
| hatch | I have some time off coming up reeeeal soon | 22:27 |
| lazypower | hatch: did you see i replied on your bug? | 22:27 |
| lazypower | i'm kind of put off by the amount of banter on ghost not being served up over port 80 | 22:27 |
| hatch | heh yeah I agree with you | 22:28 |
| lazypower | this is *basic* web stuff. if your charm says "This goes to port 8080" then fine. let it go to port 80. case closed. you deploy it behind haproxy or apache. | 22:28 |
| hatch | lets just get the darn stuff in the store then we can update it later imho | 22:28 |
| lazypower | s/port 80./port 8080./ | 22:28 |
| lazypower | hatch: well thats the thing. everybody is gung ho about getting their stuff in the store *then* iterating | 22:28 |
| lazypower | you'll have the same issues with ~charmers being a bottleneck | 22:29 |
| lazypower | we gate *every commit* that will land in your charm. | 22:29 |
| lazypower | thats in the store | 22:29 |
| lazypower | so if we can get it HQ before it lands there, we're good to go. | 22:29 |
| lazypower | now in terms of the ghost charm. I'll need to pull it, deploy it, evaluate it | 22:29 |
| lazypower | but the last time i looked at it you were scary close to having a solid review | 22:29 |
| lazypower | there were just some small things that were blocking it, and looking over the comment bantering, it appears you've fixed them | 22:30 |
| hatch | there has to be a better way to do this stuff | 22:30 |
| hatch | like tbh I don't really care if it's ~charmers or not but I'd like an icon in the GUI :) | 22:30 |
| lazypower | have you pushed your charm to lp:~hatch/charms/trusty/ghost/trunk? | 22:30 |
| hatch | precuse | 22:30 |
| hatch | precise | 22:30 |
| lazypower | ok, s/trusty/precise/ | 22:30 |
| lazypower | then you're "in the store" - you're just not a recommended charm yet | 22:31 |
| hatch | right - and no icon | 22:31 |
| lazypower | there's a reason being a recommended charm is a pain in the butt. We want them to be *solid* charms. | 22:31 |
| hatch | and the user can't type `juju deploy ghost` | 22:31 |
| lazypower | i want to fire a bazooka at it | 22:31 |
| lazypower | and it better stand up | 22:31 |
| hatch | they have to do `juju deploy lp:~hatch/ghost` | 22:31 |
| hatch | er | 22:31 |
| hatch | lp:~hatch/previse/ghost | 22:31 |
| hatch | precise | 22:31 |
| hatch | bleh | 22:31 |
| hatch | lol | 22:31 |
| hatch | Ooo a huge spool of fiber is sitting on the street | 23:00 |
| hatch | looks like someone might be getting real fast internet soon | 23:00 |
| hatch | <---- this guy | 23:01 |
| huwshimi | Morning | 23:04 |
| hatch | hey huwshimi | 23:09 |
| huwshimi | hatch: Hey | 23:09 |
| hatch | I left a few too many comments on your hotkey branch :) | 23:09 |
| hatch | I should learn to finish a thought before hitting 'send' :) | 23:10 |
| huwshimi | hatch: hehe, thansk | 23:15 |
| huwshimi | *thanks | 23:15 |
| huwshimi | hatch: ctrl+h also opens history in chrome | 23:15 |
| hatch | oh....hmm | 23:15 |
| hatch | well then.... | 23:15 |
| hatch | what about alt h? | 23:16 |
| huwshimi | hatch: opens help in firefox | 23:17 |
| hatch | lol | 23:17 |
| hatch | for $130/mo I can get 260Mbps down and 30Mbps up.... not bad.... | 23:18 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: I'm a play music guy. It's replaced everything else for me | 23:18 |
| hatch | I'll still probably stickwith the $40/mo option :) | 23:18 |
| hatch | rick_h_ do you use streaming or still buy songs? | 23:19 |
| hatch | I'm trying to find a way to share my library with my wife, doesn't look like it's possible | 23:19 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: so I uploaded all my stuff and then I just stream. I can add almost any album without buying it | 23:19 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: ah yea, have to get her the google lib | 23:19 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: I might try the amz one. I wanted to try it out as I can share my prime subscription with her | 23:19 |
| rick_h_ | and the music service is tied to prime | 23:19 |
| rick_h_ | I wonder if I upload/etc she also can see get access to it | 23:20 |
| rick_h_ | but it's a much smaller set of songs | 23:20 |
| hatch | I installed an app on my synology nas which seems to be working, but buying songs from play then adding them to the nas is kinda of a pita | 23:20 |
| rick_h_ | yea | 23:20 |
| rick_h_ | why I just go with play | 23:20 |
| rick_h_ | just pay my $7 and get everything I want | 23:20 |
| hatch | heh it's $10 in Canada :) | 23:20 |
| rick_h_ | I do have it hooked up to my tablet so my wife can use it there | 23:20 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I think it went to $10 after a $7 trial early adopter thing | 23:21 |
| hatch | ohhh | 23:21 |
| hatch | I think I still prefer to own the music, then I have music when offline | 23:21 |
| hatch | :) | 23:21 |
| rick_h_ | well you can pin and have it offline | 23:21 |
| hatch | even streaming songs? | 23:21 |
| rick_h_ | I do that with all the kids albums so that I can have them for the boy when we lose connectivity/camping | 23:21 |
| rick_h_ | yep | 23:21 |
| hatch | ahh that's cool, didn't know that | 23:22 |
| rick_h_ | yea, it works pretty seemlessly across your stuff and cloud stuff | 23:22 |
| hatch | the real question is....do I spend $120/yr buying music to make streaming worth while... | 23:23 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I use it a ton because we'll take the boy to see a movie, then get the album on the way to the car to listen to on the way home/etc | 23:24 |
| rick_h_ | it's more the convienence | 23:24 |
| rick_h_ | and with chromecasts able to send it from my phone to any tv in the house it's a bonus | 23:24 |
| hatch | ahh | 23:25 |
| hatch | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.synology.DSaudio&hl=en | 23:26 |
| hatch | works really well | 23:26 |
| rick_h_ | cool | 23:27 |
| hatch | could use some UX improvements | 23:27 |
| hatch | like figuring out how to set up the accounts sucked | 23:27 |
| hatch | but other than that it streams well, and you can download to the device | 23:28 |
| rick_h_ | woot http://jrwren.wrenfam.com/blog/2014/06/25/leaving-a-great-job-for-a-great-job/ | 23:28 |
| rick_h_ | bac: around? | 23:28 |
| hatch | OOoooo | 23:29 |
| hatch | Who's he? | 23:29 |
| hatch | oh | 23:29 |
| hatch | I know | 23:29 |
| hatch | lol | 23:29 |
| rick_h_ | that's Jay, the local guy I know that's starting Monday :) | 23:29 |
| rick_h_ | getting exicted to start bringing in the new folks | 23:29 |
| rick_h_ | and that's all I'll say here for now :) | 23:29 |
| hatch | haha - I'll try and pop online on Monday to join the call | 23:29 |
| hatch | as long as there aren't too many tweens streaming selfies from the lake I should have enough bandwidth | 23:30 |
| hatch | lol | 23:30 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 23:30 |
| hatch | there is only one tower up there | 23:30 |
| hatch | so its fast but bandwidth is limited | 23:31 |
| rick_h_ | gotcha, audio only time | 23:31 |
| hatch | unless i get lucky and they haven't gotten up yet haha | 23:31 |
| hatch | huwshimi so what shortcut do we want to use? | 23:32 |
| huwshimi | hatch: How about we just do it on any keypress | 23:32 |
| hatch | lol | 23:32 |
| hatch | every keypress hides and shows it | 23:33 |
| hatch | so it's like a rave | 23:33 |
| hatch | a sidebar rave | 23:33 |
| rick_h_ | what's wrong witht he ctrl-h? | 23:33 |
| hatch | that shows the history | 23:33 |
| hatch | I guess | 23:33 |
| rick_h_ | oh | 23:33 |
| rick_h_ | and alt-h? | 23:33 |
| hatch | opens help in ff | 23:34 |
| hatch | haha | 23:34 |
| rick_h_ | wtf | 23:34 |
| hatch | we can't catch a break | 23:34 |
| rick_h_ | ctl-alt-shift-meta-h | 23:34 |
| rick_h_ | there done! | 23:34 |
| hatch | I wonder if our hotkey system supports multiple modifiers | 23:34 |
| hatch | lol | 23:34 |
| hatch | it does | 23:35 |
| huwshimi | yeah, it does | 23:35 |
| hatch | huwshimi what about ctrl+alt+h ? | 23:35 |
| rick_h_ | ok, new plan | 23:35 |
| hatch | doesn't do anything here on osx | 23:35 |
| rick_h_ | under help and feedback we add a row with a small _ link | 23:35 |
| rick_h_ | and that link does the show/hide | 23:35 |
| rick_h_ | and forget keyboard shortcuts | 23:35 |
| hatch | hmm that's an interesting idea | 23:36 |
| hatch | buuuuut | 23:36 |
| hatch | maybe hiding the sidebar will be a useful functionality | 23:36 |
| rick_h_ | I'm buzzed on wine from dinner | 23:36 |
| rick_h_ | so now's a good time to get them | 23:36 |
| rick_h_ | fine, then make it a full link "toggle sidebar" | 23:36 |
| hatch | haha, keep throwin em out and we'll see what sticks | 23:36 |
| hatch | well the ctrl+alt+h I think should work | 23:37 |
| hatch | and we have one other shortcut with 2 modifiers | 23:37 |
| rick_h_ | ok, you're worried that _ will be too useful...but you're willing to do ctrl-alt-h? | 23:37 |
| hatch | lol I mean it'll be hard to switch between if people want to do that | 23:37 |
| * hatch bets we'll be adding in a handle to the sidebar again in no time | 23:38 | |
| hatch | lol | 23:38 |
| rick_h_ | huwshimi: we trust your judgement to come up with something that works and doesn't suck and want to allow thinking outside of the keyboard box | 23:38 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: shush | 23:38 |
| rick_h_ | no one...well except huw...asked you :P | 23:38 |
| hatch | haha | 23:38 |
| rick_h_ | hmm, I think we chased huw away | 23:39 |
| huwshimi | rick_h_: I'm thinking ctrl+alt+h | 23:39 |
| rick_h_ | huwshimi: ok, then cool to me | 23:39 |
| huwshimi | rick_h_: I think it's not something we want to accidentally press and not know how to get back | 23:39 |
| rick_h_ | huwshimi: yea, that's why I liked the move to a real link | 23:40 |
| rick_h_ | huwshimi: but I'm cool either way | 23:40 |
| hatch | cool as a cucumber | 23:40 |
| huwshimi | rick_h_: I could land with ctrl+alt+h and then send an email and make it ux's problem :) | 23:40 |
| hatch | http://www.airconco.com/images/cucumber1.jpg | 23:40 |
| rick_h_ | huwshimi: naw, they've got their hands full without this one | 23:41 |
| rick_h_ | and the only people asking for it are ecosystem and they can ctrl-alt-h just peachy | 23:41 |
| huwshimi | ok | 23:41 |
| rick_h_ | so let's go keyboard and land it and wait for a follow up bug report later on :) | 23:41 |
| huwshimi | haha ok | 23:41 |
| hatch | so the question is....do I buy one of the smart watches currently available or wait until the motorola one comes out? | 23:51 |
| rick_h_ | hatch: I'll be bringing the LG one to london | 23:51 |
| hatch | heh you ordered it already? | 23:52 |
| rick_h_ | yea, figured wtf I want to try it out and see how it goes | 23:52 |
| rick_h_ | and I'll try it out around london for directions/dinners/etc | 23:52 |
| hatch | yeah that'll be cool the samsung one has more sensors | 23:53 |
| hatch | but I like the lg's look better | 23:53 |
| rick_h_ | yea, but the display is said to be not as good and LG looks nicer, and I hate samsung | 23:53 |
| hatch | oh wait a second....it only has a heart monitor | 23:53 |
| hatch | don't care bout that | 23:53 |
| rick_h_ | right | 23:53 |
| hatch | as long as it's pumping I'll know | 23:53 |
| hatch | lol | 23:53 |
| hatch | what colour did you get? | 23:54 |
| rick_h_ | black, I'm plain | 23:54 |
| hatch | ok I bought a white one....don't tell my wife | 23:56 |
| hatch | it's a little too easy to buy things with google wallet | 23:56 |
| hatch | sorry, make that way to easy | 23:56 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 23:56 |
| hatch | it ships on the 3rd, so should arrive before London | 23:57 |
| huwshimi | Hmm... windowNode.simulate('keydown', { keyCode: 104, key. shiftKey: true, altKey: true }); should work with multiple modifiers right? | 23:58 |
| hatch | yep | 23:59 |
| hatch | you have a typo though | 23:59 |
| hatch | an extra space | 23:59 |
| hatch | between key. shiftKey | 23:59 |
| rick_h_ | yea, wha'ts that key.? | 23:59 |
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