| === thelionroars is now known as thelionsleeps | ||
| === thelionsleeps is now known as thelionroars | ||
| lordievader | I found a bug with the touchpad disable hotkeys, they only work if Sys config -> Input Devices -> Touchpad -> Enable/Disable Touchpad is open, if that is closed the shortcut no longer works. | 07:32 |
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| lordievader | To what application/package do I address this bug? | 07:33 |
| apachelogger | lordievader: https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Touchpad%20KCM&format=guided | 07:46 |
| lordievader | apachelogger: Thank you :) | 07:47 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://imgur.com/KiuBS9K | 08:51 |
| shadeslayer | in muon discover | 08:52 |
| shadeslayer | and go and test utopic alpha 1 | 08:58 |
| === Haudegen_ is now known as Haudegen | ||
| shadeslayer | WARNING: This image is OVERSIZED. This should never happen during milestone testing. | 09:15 |
| shadeslayer | :( | 09:15 |
| mcstr_ | hi guys! i posted this question yesterday already and also posted it on launchpad. i am running kubuntu 14.04 and have additionally added kde project neon via the ppas. is there a way to use the application settings from my apps in kubuntu 14.04 also in kde project neon? like the channels in quassel or the email accounts. what folder do i have to copy for this? | 09:29 |
| yofel | that's mostly the xdg folders like .config or .local/share, see what the XDG_* environment variables are set to for the places neon5 looks | 09:31 |
| yofel | quassel is in .config, email should be controlled by akonadi which is too | 09:31 |
| mcstr_ | hm where can i check the xdg environment variables for neon5? | 09:32 |
| yofel | when you run neon5, just open konsole and run 'env' | 09:33 |
| shadeslayer | it will most likely be /home/shadeslayer/.project-neon5-kde/something | 09:33 |
| yofel | mcstr_: they are set by some environment.rc file in /opt/project-neon5/share/project-neon5 IIRC (paths and names might not be entirely correct here) | 09:33 |
| mcstr_ | indeed i have it in /home/macstar/.project-neon5-kde | 09:33 |
| mcstr_ | in this i have a-.config folder.... | 09:34 |
| mcstr_ | can i try to overwrite this config folder with the config folder i have in my home directory? | 09:34 |
| mcstr_ | backing up first ofc | 09:34 |
| yofel | yes | 09:34 |
| shadeslayer | I think if you just copy it over, it should be fine | 09:34 |
| mcstr_ | yep folder structur inside looks the same | 09:34 |
| mcstr_ | gonna try thx | 09:35 |
| shadeslayer | what the heck is back http://imgur.com/X5wBZGf | 09:41 |
| mcstr_ | no luck here | 09:42 |
| mcstr_ | env output looks like this http://goo.gl/6RqjVr | 09:42 |
| mcstr_ | shit | 09:43 |
| mcstr_ | i think i am to blame | 09:43 |
| mcstr_ | its config not .config in the project neon folder | 09:43 |
| mcstr_ | :/ | 09:43 |
| shadeslayer | XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/opt/project-neon5/etc/xdg:/etc/xdg/xdg-project-neon5:/etc/xdg:/etc/xdg | 09:43 |
| shadeslayer | wat | 09:43 |
| shadeslayer | aha | 09:44 |
| mcstr_ | brb | 09:44 |
| shadeslayer | mcstr_: you're right | 09:44 |
| lordievader | shadeslayer: What does that back do? Go back to the BIOS? /me is getting curious | 09:45 |
| shadeslayer | lordievader: http://imgur.com/S0aTfUr | 09:47 |
| lordievader | Pff, lovely. | 09:48 |
| mcstr | yep that was it | 09:49 |
| mcstr | thanks a lot guys | 09:49 |
| mcstr | and wow it feels fast :O | 09:50 |
| mcstr | last thing i need to have working is the akonadi server..... its not running therefore i cant use kmail/kontact... | 09:55 |
| shadeslayer | you can't use akonadi on frameworks yet | 09:56 |
| shadeslayer | IDK why | 09:56 |
| mcstr | oh okay | 09:56 |
| shadeslayer | but it simply doesn't work | 09:56 |
| mcstr | no worries | 09:56 |
| mcstr | as long as it works in the final im happy :p | 09:56 |
| mcstr | everything else looks damn impressive by now | 09:56 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: it's a bug | 10:09 |
| apachelogger | also technically that would in fact attempt to go back if that was a submenu | 10:10 |
| apachelogger | alas, it is not, so I doubt that should be there xD | 10:10 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yep, new syslinux and what not | 10:10 |
| shadeslayer | no OEM menu too | 10:10 |
| shadeslayer | all reported | 10:10 |
| shadeslayer | installer crashes with non english lang :( | 10:10 |
| shadeslayer | 1334199 | 10:11 |
| shadeslayer | er | 10:11 |
| shadeslayer | bug 1334199 | 10:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1334199 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity-kde fails to install Kubuntu in Spanish" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1334199 | 10:11 |
| apachelogger | don't find no branch on lunchpad for the new thing for whatever reason | 10:11 |
| apachelogger | they are hiding it from me | 10:11 |
| shadeslayer | new thing? | 10:13 |
| shadeslayer | the Qt5 installer? | 10:13 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: do you reckon 1334199 is a blocker for Alpha 1 ? | 10:14 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: the new sylinux | 10:15 |
| apachelogger | since you can install in english I don't think that's much blocky | 10:15 |
| shadeslayer | kk | 10:16 |
| * shadeslayer lazily looks at firefox | 10:16 | |
| shadeslayer | agateau: ping | 10:38 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: I thought this was fixed http://imgur.com/Iy5735j | 10:38 |
| shadeslayer | the quit button | 10:38 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: wat http://launchpadlibrarian.net/134020427/ubiquity_2.13.14_2.13.15.diff.gz | 10:55 |
| === soee_ is now known as soee | ||
| shadeslayer | :O | 11:05 |
| shadeslayer | wat | 11:05 |
| shadeslayer | https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/kde4libs | 11:05 |
| shadeslayer | that's pretty neat | 11:06 |
| shadeslayer | I can also do http://pad.lv/d/kde4libs now :3 | 11:06 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: mind poking https://code.launchpad.net/~agateau/ubiquity/kde-fix-broken-sidebar-layout-on-greeter/+merge/216365 | 11:06 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: what do you mean with "poking"? | 11:07 |
| agateau | shall I ping Riddell about it? | 11:07 |
| agateau | just did it :) | 11:07 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 11:08 |
| shadeslayer | agateau: well more like, maybe not use the hack | 11:08 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: i don't think this hack is critical | 11:09 |
| * Riddell is travelling today | 11:09 | |
| shadeslayer | ok | 11:10 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: coming via car? | 11:10 |
| shadeslayer | or Flight? | 11:10 |
| shadeslayer | and I thought you were arriving tomorrow | 11:10 |
| Riddell | por avión | 11:10 |
| Riddell | 10 a las noches | 11:11 |
| shadeslayer | aha | 11:11 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: cya tomorrow :) | 11:12 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: where are you staying though? | 11:12 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: dunno, I was hoping someone would be in the office this evening to let me in | 11:14 |
| Riddell | d_ed said he would be I think | 11:15 |
| shadeslayer | ok, if required, I can be there too | 11:15 |
| ovidiu-florin | hello world | 11:29 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: where can I find a list of what I have to do to apply for membership? | 11:30 |
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: http://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Membership | 11:30 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: The Kubuntu Romania site is also down | 11:31 |
| ovidiu-florin | any news on that subscription? | 11:31 |
| === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter_work | ||
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: not had a chance yet sorry :( | 11:37 |
| ovidiu-florin | so you said you're moving? | 11:38 |
| ovidiu-florin | why ? | 11:38 |
| Riddell | I like messing up the geopolitics of europe, scotland is a done deal, time to have fun with the catalunians | 11:40 |
| sgclark | lol | 11:41 |
| ovidiu-florin | :) | 11:55 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 12:37 |
| Riddell | "Rohan Garg (rohangarg) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members" yay shadeslayer still loves us! | 12:37 |
| soee | hi BluesKaj | 12:38 |
| BluesKaj | hi soee | 12:39 |
| d_ed | Riddell: I'll be in the office tonight | 12:43 |
| d_ed | Riddell: what are your sleeping arrangements? | 12:43 |
| d_ed | Riddell: are you out here forever? | 12:43 |
| Riddell | d_ed: yep | 12:48 |
| Riddell | no arrangements yet, I'm hoping some kind person will offer me a sofa | 12:48 |
| Riddell | or the office has plenty of space and a hose in it | 12:51 |
| Riddell | hi mustafa_muhammad | 13:17 |
| mustafa_muhammad | Hello Jonathan | 13:19 |
| Riddell | mustafa_muhammad: running Kubuntu in Iraq? | 13:20 |
| mustafa_muhammad | Yup, distro-hopping in Iraq | 13:20 |
| mustafa_muhammad | Testing neon5 and plasma 5 now | 13:20 |
| mustafa_muhammad | neon5 running fine(except some crashes, reported) | 13:21 |
| mustafa_muhammad | but Kubuntu Utopic couldn't login from the kubuntu-next ppa | 13:22 |
| mustafa_muhammad | When I login, I get "Could not start D-Bus, can you call qdbus?" | 13:35 |
| sgclark | that is the problem I have, I am looking into it | 13:35 |
| sgclark | lightdm seems to be the fail point | 13:36 |
| mustafa_muhammad | So, try sddm? | 13:36 |
| mustafa_muhammad | I'll give it a shot | 13:36 |
| sgclark | I just packaged it, have not yet tested | 13:36 |
| shadeslayer | doesn't sound like a sddm/lightdm problem | 13:38 |
| shadeslayer | more like a qtchooser issue | 13:38 |
| yofel | is qdbus-qt5 installed? ^^ | 13:38 |
| sgclark | yeah it was | 13:39 |
| apachelogger | qt5-default as well | 13:42 |
| shadeslayer | anyone want to test http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/317/builds/70677/testcases/1301/results | 13:53 |
| sgclark | I will here in a bit | 13:55 |
| mustafa_muhammad | apachelogger: qt5-default was not installed, now I installed it and logged in, no problems anymore | 13:55 |
| mustafa_muhammad | thanks | 13:56 |
| * sgclark adds to depends | 13:56 | |
| mustafa_muhammad | sgclark: try installing qt5-default, worked for me | 13:57 |
| sgclark | will do thank you | 13:57 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: please don't add qt5-default to runtime depends | 14:12 |
| shadeslayer | because qdbus is supposed to be a drop in replacement | 14:12 |
| soee_ | hey, so sddm is now wvailable for 14.10 ? | 14:12 |
| shadeslayer | so you can install the Qt4 version as well | 14:12 |
| shadeslayer | soee_: not yet | 14:12 |
| shadeslayer | I don't see us switching to it in 14.10 tbh | 14:13 |
| shadeslayer | because at the very least ubiquity will break | 14:13 |
| shadeslayer | or rather, ubiquity-dm | 14:13 |
| soee_ | shadeslayer: it wont be available even as 'unoffical' option | 14:13 |
| shadeslayer | soee_: dunno, maybe | 14:13 |
| soee_ | ok, thank you | 14:13 |
| shadeslayer | no plans for it yet | 14:13 |
| shadeslayer | maybe just for plasma 5 | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: it would have to be there for plasma5 as its considered part of the workspace experience | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | which is why I told Quintasan to hurry it along like 70000 weeks ago :@ | 14:16 |
| sgclark | plasma-desktop will not start without it, therefore broken, how am I to resolve tht? | 14:16 |
| sgclark | I packages sddm, it is in next utopic | 14:18 |
| sgclark | packaged* | 14:18 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: is it? | 14:19 |
| shadeslayer | I don't think so | 14:19 |
| shadeslayer | but anyway | 14:19 |
| shadeslayer | breaks ubiquity-dm | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I am not sure it does, it probably will need to be noop when ubiquity is supposed to start | 14:20 |
| shadeslayer | yes, noop = broken for me :P | 14:20 |
| shadeslayer | loss of features etc | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | what? | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | if you start livesession | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | the sddm upstart/sytemd unit shouldn't do no nothing | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | so that ubiquity can fire up lightdm with ubiquity greeter | 14:21 |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: with that said, leaving off qt5-default as depend leaves a system that cannot be logged into which I see as a grand form of broken | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | when started after install sddm will do its magic | 14:21 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: no, qt5-default is the wrong depend | 14:21 |
| shadeslayer | you should depend on qdbus | 14:21 |
| shadeslayer | not qt5-default | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | actually | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | something needs to depend on qtchooser | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | which is qhere qt5-default comes in :P | 14:22 |
| sgclark | I had qdbus, still broken | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | question is why qmake doesn't | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | ah | 14:23 |
| sgclark | qt5-default and viola I have a desktop and I am very happy now | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | sgclark: are you sure qt5-qdbus was installed? | 14:23 |
| shadeslayer | qmake is blacklisted I think | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | sgclark: the actual package qt5-qdbus | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | or actually, please paste your /var/log/dpkg.log | 14:24 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: well, it shouldn't really matter, this is the whole QT_SELECT=4/5 fiasco | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | because qt5-default would simply have dragged in what was missing, it wasn't the actually missing bit as it is an empty package | 14:24 |
| shadeslayer | in startkde | 14:24 |
| sgclark | apachelogger: I cannot even get into that system. grub seems to have vanished and cannot get to rescue even | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: no, because it would default to qmake5 in this scenario | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | the only way you get a defunct qmake with qt5 installed is if the actual binary is not there | 14:25 |
| === toscalix_ is now known as toscalix | ||
| apachelogger | sgclark: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery | 14:25 |
| apachelogger | http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd | 14:25 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: actually, I have both qmake qt4/5 installed, it defaults to 4 | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | sgclark: actually you could just livecd, mount whatever partition contains /var and paste me the log :P | 14:26 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: only if you misconfigured it | 14:26 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 14:26 |
| shadeslayer | I merely installed both | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | readlink /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qtchooser/default.conf | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | ../../../share/qtchooser/qt5-x86_64-linux-gnu.conf | 14:26 |
| shadeslayer | I have no /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qtchooser/default.conf | 14:27 |
| shadeslayer | because I have no default package | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | oh, that's from qt5-default | 14:27 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | you know what | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | let's sneakily remove qtchooser :P | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: oh perhaps that is why only some systems had a problem with qmake4 vs. 5 | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | that's funny though, it defaults to qmake4, unless you have qt5-default, unless you have it configured... it still won't work though unless you have the correct package for your architecture | 14:29 |
| apachelogger | it's much better than having to rename the binary to qmake5 xD | 14:30 |
| shadeslayer | :p | 14:30 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: it appears you are right, unless qt5-default is installed it will default to qmake4 | 14:30 |
| apachelogger | so it is the inverse issue of the previous issue \o/ | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | wait that's weird as well | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | sgclark: I think qtchooser will need fixing for this | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | the problem is... in plasma current when using qdbus with qt5-default installed it would have used qdbus-qt5 which might not have been installed; this kind of made sense even considering it is still a bug with qtchooser having insufficient lookup logic... now with plasma next OTOH you cannot ever hope to use qdbus5 unless qt5-default is installed (which is a dev package of sorts) as it will always attempt to start qmake4 which is never | 14:37 |
| apachelogger | there | 14:37 |
| sgclark | ahh | 14:38 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: mind reverting your commit then? | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | actually my analysis was still not correct, if you have both qtcore4 and qtcore5 installed you cannot use qdbus5 unless you have qt5-default installed | 14:38 |
| shadeslayer | you can | 14:39 |
| apachelogger | anyone ordered a turd? | 14:39 |
| sgclark | but that breaks it, gosh I am lost | 14:39 |
| shadeslayer | QT_SELECT=5 qdbus | 14:39 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 14:39 |
| shadeslayer | voila, it'll wor | 14:39 |
| shadeslayer | *work | 14:39 |
| apachelogger | the point of qtchooser somewhat was to not having to do that | 14:39 |
| apachelogger | so the fact that you need to do it anyway defeats the point | 14:39 |
| shadeslayer | funnily, half of neon depends on qdbus | 14:41 |
| shadeslayer | which is the qt4 package | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | no | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: u talking about neon4? | 14:41 |
| shadeslayer | 5 | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | neon5 has its own qt | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | straight qt build doesn't have qtchooser | 14:41 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/pfqiulxvm | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | ah | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | that is peculiar | 14:42 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: it was broken because qtchooser is broken, however qt5-default forces Qt5 as the default everywhere | 14:43 |
| shadeslayer | qt5-default just papers over the issue | 14:43 |
| shadeslayer | it doesn't actually solve it ( or maybe it partially does, by pulling in qdbus-qt5 ) | 14:44 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: that's through weird dep chain though, there is no direct dep on qdbus | 14:44 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yaeh I guessed as much | 14:44 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: run -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true plz | 14:45 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7700753/ | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | Broken project-neon5-qtcurve:amd64 Depends on libkio5 [ amd64 ] < 4:4.13.2a-0ubuntu0.1 > ( libs ) (>= 4:4.3.4) | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | all ur fault | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | Broken project-neon5-kauth:amd64 Depends on libpolkit-qt-1-1 [ amd64 ] < 0.103.0-1ubuntu1 > ( libs ) (>= 0.99.0) | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | that looks wrong though | 14:47 |
| shadeslayer | quite wrong | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | qtcurve I also don't get much | 14:47 |
| shadeslayer | I know why | 14:47 |
| shadeslayer | we're buiding with kdelibs5-dev | 14:48 |
| xnox | shadeslayer: sgclark: soee_: it's a bug in software if qt5-defaults / qt4-defaults changes anything. Especially for ubiquity. | 14:48 |
| sgclark | I reverted my change, is there a way to set QT_SELECT=5 qdbus on install ? so it is not broken out of the box? | 14:48 |
| xnox | shadeslayer: sgclark: soee_: which we can trivially fix by being explicit about qt version if we have to in ubiquity. | 14:49 |
| xnox | which would be my preference. | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: again, wrong way to approach the solution | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | I'd do it in startkde | 14:50 |
| shadeslayer | like we currently do it for KDE SC | 14:50 |
| sgclark | well off topic a bit, while I can login in now, it still is not working, everything is black | 14:53 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-next | 14:55 |
| shadeslayer | plz review | 14:55 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: ^^ bullet points for easier understanding of deliverables | 14:55 |
| apachelogger | I read the bullet points | 15:03 |
| apachelogger | they were bullety | 15:03 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer, sgclark: xnox: this needs fixing in qtchooser, it's undesirable to patch every invocation of qdbus to explicitly select a version | 15:04 |
| shadeslayer | true enough | 15:05 |
| shadeslayer | if everything in that document reads fine to you guys, I'll send it tomorrow morning | 15:05 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging-next/sddm/view/head:/debian/control < all them themes are bunched together :( | 15:15 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: plus you install no pam files | 15:16 |
| shadeslayer | or init files | 15:16 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: isn't https://trello.com/c/JH9j9mH5 done? | 15:21 |
| shadeslayer | override_dh_shlibdeps: | 15:21 |
| shadeslayer | $(overridden_command) -- -xbaloo -xkde-runtime -xkdepim-runtime | 15:21 |
| shadeslayer | from baloo debian/rules | 15:21 |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: ok split out themes? did not see any of these pam or init files you speak of, will take a look a bit later | 15:27 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: well, the pam files shipped with sddm are kaput for Ubuntu | 15:28 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: did you even check if your sddm package worked? | 15:28 |
| shadeslayer | I can't imagine it working :P | 15:28 |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: I stated that no it has not been tested. | 15:28 |
| shadeslayer | hm, it only says that it needs review, I thought you had it working | 15:29 |
| sgclark | All I see is blotchy black on the machine I am trying to set up to test this stuff, not a good day. before that all the dbus stuff | 15:29 |
| sgclark | sorry I was not clear, defined etc. | 15:30 |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: this package did not create a debian/tmp (why I did not create install files) what did I miss? | 15:32 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: debhelper does not create debian/tmp for control files with just one package | 15:35 |
| sgclark | ah ha, ok so will when I split themes, thanks | 15:36 |
| shadeslayer | sgclark: please use my branch as a base | 15:40 |
| shadeslayer | if you're working on SDDM | 15:40 |
| sgclark | you can have it back sorry, did not realize you were working on it | 15:41 |
| shadeslayer | sort of, I was thinking of doing it tomorrow | 15:41 |
| shadeslayer | sanitizing the packaging | 15:41 |
| shadeslayer | and having something shippable | 15:41 |
| shadeslayer | but if you have time, go for it | 15:41 |
| sgclark | shadeslayer: well at this point I need a working test system, which so far is not going well | 15:57 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: notes look fine | 16:02 |
| === Guest57253 is now known as haudegen | ||
| ShalokShalom | hi there | 17:22 |
| ShalokShalom | can i report a packaging bug here, please ? | 17:22 |
| yofel | ShalokShalom: preferably file a bug with apport / on launchpad, but what's up? | 17:22 |
| ShalokShalom | yofel: mpd is a GUI for mpd and mpd isnt a dependency for cantata | 17:46 |
| ShalokShalom | yofel: mpd is a GUI for cantata and mpd isnt a dependency for cantata | 17:47 |
| ShalokShalom | yofel: cantana dont work without mpd and mpd isnt a dependency from cantana. (my english is horrible) | 17:53 |
| yofel | ShalokShalom: sorry was away. I'm not really familiar with mpd, and the new version in utopic-proposed does at least suggest mpd so maybe that's enough (I usually trust debian to know what they're doing) | 17:57 |
| ShalokShalom | its not enough | 17:57 |
| ShalokShalom | i already check this with the help from BluesKaj | 17:57 |
| ShalokShalom | Cantata is a GUI for mpd | 17:58 |
| ShalokShalom | try it ;) | 17:58 |
| yofel | hm, true, this is useless.. | 18:00 |
| yofel | ShalokShalom: well, I can see that it might want to at least recommend it, but considering that you might have mpd running on another pc suggests isn't too wrong | 18:04 |
| yofel | if you already have mpd running somewhere, starting another instance on your system is probably not what you want | 18:05 |
| yofel | ShalokShalom: yeah, that was already discussed in debian bug 740299 | 18:07 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 740299 in cantata "Cantata: consider mpd as a dependency or a recommendation of cantata." [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/740299 | 18:07 |
| ShalokShalom | yofel: Why "or a recommendation and why [Normal] ? | 18:16 |
| ShalokShalom | Its breaks the whole App ? | 18:16 |
| yofel | not if it's running somewhere else | 18:16 |
| ShalokShalom | For each end user | 18:16 |
| ShalokShalom | How many people aim to use it as a music client on the desktop ? | 18:16 |
| ShalokShalom | And how should one of these end user know, why cantana dont work ? | 18:17 |
| tsimpson | it may be a case for diverging from upstream, maybe | 18:18 |
| yofel | when I started cantata, on the second configuration screen it asked me to connect to mpd. I would expect that someone that wants to use an mpd client might wonder where mpd is if cantata can't connect to it | 18:19 |
| yofel | it is true that our package in trusty does not suggest mpd, so that might be worth fixing | 18:19 |
| ShalokShalom | ok, can you suggest this ? | 18:20 |
| yofel | I'll file a bug about it, maybe I'll have some time over the weekend to fill out the SRU paperwork | 18:22 |
| ShalokShalom | yofel: thanks a lot :) | 18:33 |
| beav_ | anybody know how to upload GTK app tar ball onto ubuntu? it's for gnome or kde. | 19:21 |
| beav_ | It's graphical interface not shell, thanks in advance. | 19:21 |
| beav_ | I want to distribute the application and make it accessable for ubuntu users to download as an open source project | 19:23 |
| === shadeslayer changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: 14.10 Alpha 1 Candidate Images Available - http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/317/builds - Test, test, test!!! | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Polo Shirts are available again!! https://holvi.com/shop/Kubuntu/ (Womens also) | ||
| BluesKaj | hmm, no upgrades in the 14.10 repos today...is there a freeze on? | 20:25 |
| BluesKaj | anyway time to give this a rest .. | 20:26 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 20:28 |
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