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cpyargerrsalveti, Do you have any information on this?00:11
cpyargersergiusens, I believe you have worked with the maguro build, as you have a bug report submitted for it. May you offer some advice?00:13
sergiusenscpyarger: from an ubuntu engineering perspective, maguro isn't supported anymore00:14
cpyargersergiusens, officially it isn't, But are there any unofficial builds? I have tried following the porting guide, but It seems to be unclear or incomplete, and I am unsure of how to get a running utopic with my device, or even one that supports basic cellphone functionality.00:17
sergiusenscpyarger: if you build from the official repos; mostly everything should be there already00:17
* sergiusens checks00:17
cpyargerI may also be having issues to by device being a "toro" not an official maguro.00:18
sergiusenshttps://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/#/admin/projects/aosp/device/samsung/maguro00:18
sergiusenscpyarger: oh; you will have no radio00:18
sergiusenscdma200 == no radio support in ofono00:19
cpyargerI see, I am interested in getting this working, But to be perfectly honest I have no idea where to start other than flashing the official stable maguro.00:20
sergiusenscpyarger: if you want to build just https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting#Set_up_your_development_environment00:30
sergiusensyou will already get maguro there00:30
sergiusensthen just extract the drivers00:30
sergiusenshttps://developers.google.com/android/nexus/drivers00:32
sergiusensthe maguro ones00:32
cpyargeror should it be the toro ones due to me having a toro?00:32
sergiusensjust get both00:32
cpyargerok00:32
sergiusensshould be an issue; but the maguro build target will ref the maguro ones00:33
sergiusensthey are overlapping everywhere except for the radio chip iirc00:33
cpyargerwith phablet-dev-bootstrap should i be pulling phablet-4.4.2_r100:35
sergiusenscpyarger: pass in the options as mentioned in the wiki00:43
cpyargerok00:49
cpyargersergiusens, I will let you know when the phabletdev-bootstrap command completes00:58
sergiusenscheers00:59
cpyargersergiusens, One of the steps that has been confusing me is what to put in for the roomservice.xml file as i am once again running a tuna/torl rather than maguro. or even what to put for maguro.01:03
sergiusenscpyarger: that's only if you are using targets not provided by aosp01:03
cpyargerOh! ok.01:04
sergiusenscpyarger: feel free to edit the wiki with makes it clearer01:04
cpyargerI will probably do that after i get some modicum of success ^_^ No need to add bad edits.01:06
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lotuspsychjehttp://itsfoss.com/meizu-unveils-ubuntu-smartpones-mobile-asia-expo/02:40
leszekhi all05:07
lotuspsychjeleszek: hello05:10
tomhengis Ubuntu touch based on Android 4.4.2 now ?05:33
lotuspsychjeno ubuntu touch is much safer05:39
lotuspsychjeits a different Os then android05:39
RAOFtomheng: Yeah, looks like.05:58
RAOFandroid-headers/utopic,utopic,now 4.4.2-1-0ubuntu205:58
tomhengq06:02
tomhengls06:02
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tomhenghardware/qcom/display/msm8960/libgralloc/gpu.cpp:49:5: error: 'allocSize' was not declared in this scope06:21
tomhengwhat is the error mean and how to fixed it06:22
tomhengwhois06:24
tomhengls06:24
dholbachGuten Morgen Berlin! :)07:00
dholbachoops07:00
dholbachgood morning07:00
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JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Colour TV Day! :-D08:34
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DexterFhi09:30
toto976hi09:32
DexterFneed a new handset anyway, so I'd like to get one I can try Ubuntu Touch on. nexus4 is out for not having removable storage and non-removable battery. in terms of specs (display, size, cpu) it's roughly what I'm after. recommendations09:32
DexterF?09:32
tomheng_is Ubuntu touch based on cm or AOSP, NOW /09:34
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tomhenganyone can answer me ?09:37
ogra_tomheng, AOSP09:38
ogra_(well, the few android bits in the container are ... ubuntu touch is based on ubuntu ;) )09:39
tomhengbase on AOSP 4.4.2 ?09:39
ogra_yes09:39
tomhengcan i build it from cm 11.0 device source code ?09:41
ogra_not sure that works ... you will need to kind of merge your tree with the ubuntu one09:41
ogra_so you might hit some issues to get that going09:42
tomhengnow, the wiki(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting) is weird.09:42
ogra_yes09:42
ogra_it only got randomly updated in the past when we switched from CM to AOSP and when we changed technologies09:43
ogra_once the devices are released and the platform doesnt move as much anymore we will likely find some time to update it properly09:44
tomhengbut the wiki is still introduced how to build ut from cm source code.09:45
ogra_there is a link for the AOSP build somewhere09:45
tomhenghttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/AOSPBuild , this one ?09:45
ogra_yeah09:45
tomhengit is still newest and work ?09:46
ogra_no idea09:47
ogra_it refers to the current trr though09:47
ogra_*tree09:47
tomhengthanks, i will try it later according to that tutorial. hope it still work.09:50
ricmmseb128: hi10:14
ricmmseb128: my fixes from yday landed to distro, care to give them a shot?10:14
seb128ricmm, hey, I upgraded this morning, my unity8-desktop is back to working, thanks ;-)10:15
ogra_does it rotate properl now as well ?10:17
ogra_:)10:17
Laneyon desktop we prefer the user to rotate him or herself10:18
ogra_haha10:18
ricmm:)10:19
dakerSaviq: yo, just found the size of shape holding the icons on the dash is not fixed10:27
Saviqdaker, I know10:27
dakerSaviq: ok :)10:27
Saviqdaker, the dash toolkit never allowed for it...10:27
Saviqdaker, I'm thinking we'll have to hardcode10:27
dakerSaviq: and since we don't fix the size of the icon metionned in .desktop, that would be a problem, their is a webapp called "DigitallyRadio" that has this issue10:29
Saviqdaker, yeah, that icon is completely broken ;)10:31
dakerSaviq: yes10:31
ogra_daker, oh, wrt your ping from tonight, yes, phablet-screenshot is working fine with the patest phablet-tools10:31
dakerogra_: ok so i need to check why it's not working for me10:32
ogra_make sure to have phablet-tools 1.0+14.10.20140616-0ubuntu1  or newer10:33
dakerok thanks10:33
dednickSaviq: do qml apps get notification when they're focused/unfocused, suspended/resumed, etc?11:00
mptogra_, hi, I’m working on the design for Developer Mode. What are the pros and cons for the user of turning it on?11:07
Saviqdednick, focus/unfocus they should, yes, suspended/resumed not yet11:11
Saviqdednick, they will receive it through http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qt.html#ApplicationState-enum11:12
Saviqor well, http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qguiapplication.html#applicationStateChanged to be correct11:13
Cimiseb128, https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/ubuntu-system-settings/wizard.privacy/+merge/21312411:17
ogra_mpt, a simple on<7off switch should be enough ... the plan is to only allow enabling developer mode if a lockscreen password/pattern/number is set up though ...11:17
ogra_*on/off11:17
dednickSaviq: thanks11:18
mptogra_, sure, but for someone wandering into this screen, I’d like to write an explanation of why they might not want to turn it on just for fun11:18
seb128Cimi, yes?11:18
Cimiseb128, review! :D11:18
seb128Cimi, oh, ok ;-)11:18
Cimiseb128, I don't think the location backend is working11:19
Cimiseb128, so I commented my code and put a label instead11:19
seb128k11:19
Cimiseb128, design agrees11:19
ogra_mpt, ah ... well, probably something like: "this option allows developer access via an USB cable attached to your computer"11:19
seb128check with tvoss though, location should be working11:19
mptogra_, and how does that differ from the usual MTP access?11:20
ogra_it gives you shell access (adb) ... not sure how/if you want to have something like that in your description though11:20
mptogra_, can a phone be wiped over USB with one but not the other?11:20
ogra_yes11:21
mptCan any part of storage be accessed over one but not the other?11:21
ogra_you have full console acccess to all data of the phablet user11:21
ogra_mtp only gives you access to a set of predefined exported dirs11:21
seb128ogra_, isn't adb giving you root access to the device?11:22
mptExcellent, that’s what I wanted to know11:22
ogra_seb128, yes, currently ... that will be gone though, you will have to sudo11:22
seb128well, that's still access, how you get it is a detail11:22
ogra_right11:22
seb128it means you get access to the data, not restricted to the phablet user11:23
ogra_you will only be able to enable adb if you have changed your PW though11:23
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Cimiseb128, I don't have the page in system settings in my phone11:23
seb128Cimi, oh, that is not implemented indeed, but I think the backend are available now so it could11:23
Cimiseb128, well, let's do it when we have those pages11:24
seb128k11:24
Cimiseb128, when we have them, we can test uncommenting code from the wizard11:25
mptogra_, so would this warning be accurate and comprehensive? “When Developer Mode is on, anyone can access, change, or delete any data on this phone without unlocking it, by connecting it to another device.”11:26
ogra_mpt, i would say "to another computer"11:26
ogra_but yeah11:26
mptThey could also connect it to a tablet, right? (Convergence!:-)11:27
ogra_theoretically yes, technically not possible unles you solder a special cable yourself :)11:27
mptor have a tablet with a USB port11:28
ogra_heh, right ..11:28
Cimiseb128, on the phone plugin11:33
Cimiseb128, I believe we don't know if we have a sim slot or not?11:33
seb128Cimi, not sure, seems like a question for awe/the ofono team11:35
seb128Wellark, do you know ^ ?11:35
WellarkCimi, seb128: pong11:42
Wellarkwhat's the question again?11:42
CimiWellark, if there is a way to see if we have a phone or a tablet wifi only11:42
Wellarkwell, you could ask the number of modems from ofono11:43
CimiWellark, SimManager on the system settings boolean present property is false11:43
Cimiok11:43
CimiWellark, serviceNumbers is more than 0?11:45
WellarkCimi: no service number or anything. those are per modem values which you don't have at all if you don't have a modem11:46
Wellarkwhat api are you using11:46
Wellark?11:46
CimiWellark,11:46
Cimiimport Ubuntu.SystemSettings.Phone 1.011:47
Cimiactually no11:48
Cimithis is different story11:48
Cimiso yeah we have no API11:48
Cimiwill patch this11:49
WellarkCimi: yeah, that API will not cut it11:51
CimiWellark, where is this code?11:52
Cimiofono/11:52
Wellarkdon't know11:52
Wellarkjust checked the plugins/phone11:52
Wellarkbut don't know where the ofono classes are coming from11:52
tomhenghardware/qcom/audio/legacy/alsa_sound/AudioUsbALSA.cpp:44:17: fatal error: jni.h: No such file or directory12:01
tomhengwhy jni.h can not found ?12:02
ogra_tomheng, because there is no java in our tree at all12:03
tomhenghow to fixed it ?12:04
ogra_no idea ... disable the bit of the build perhaps12:05
ogra_s/the/that/12:05
ogra_(we wouldnt have any support for alsa vis USB anyway in ubuntu)12:05
ogra_*via12:05
tomhengI am trying to port Ubuntu Touch to my phone, but i dont know what should i modify to suit for building.12:06
ogra_well, yuo need to have some experience with the adnroid build system to do a port ...12:07
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ogra_for the issue above just disable the USB alsa supprt in the build scripts12:07
tomhengsorry,i am newbie to that. but i want to study to build ubuntu touch.12:08
ogra_well, the porting part is more "build a minimal android" than doing any ubuntu stuff :)12:08
ogra_which means you need some experience with building android12:09
tomhengif there is a wiki tell me what should i remove and modify maybe helpful.12:10
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sergiusenspopey: do you recall ever having a 'load more tweets' button/label in the twitter webapp?12:18
Macerany news on any type of release for an actual device? only thing i can find is from march and it says "fall of this year" so is that at all solid?12:18
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popeysergiusens: pass12:37
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mptogra_, this still needs review by another designer, but it’s complete now: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AboutThisDevice#developer-mode12:40
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ogra_mpt, how do i get to that page ? is there an icon on the front page or is it hidden somewhere in the system-info page ?12:41
ogra_(like on android)12:41
mptogra_, scroll up :-)12:41
ogra_mpt, ah, perfect, thanks :)12:41
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tomhenghardware/qcom/display/msm8960/libgralloc/gpu.cpp:49:5: error: 'allocSize' was not declared in this scope12:46
tomhengwhat does the error mean and how to fixed it ?12:46
tomhengCould anyone give me some tips?12:53
pete-woodshey all, can anyone tell me how to take a screenshot on the phone?12:57
pete-woodsI've tried googling, but can't find anything that actually worked12:58
popeypete-woods: phablet-screenshot in phablet-tools13:01
pete-woodsahh13:01
pete-woodsI was looking for tools on the device itself13:01
pete-woodspopey: thanks!13:01
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oSoMoNanyone running image #96 is seeing the browser crash on startup like I do?13:19
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ogra_oSoMoN, i stearted it but didnt use it on 96 ... it started fine13:21
ogra_*started it13:21
tomhengUnable to find a valid linux-image dependency from the meta package linux-image-aries13:22
tomhengi had fixed last error, but a new old occur.13:22
ogra_oSoMoN, trying it again here i can browse the ubuntu shop just fine13:22
oSoMoNogra_, thanks for the testing, I can reliably reproduce the crash here, it seems the segfault is in fontconfig, which I see was upgraded in #96…13:26
ogra_hmm, i test on flo here btw13:26
ogra_let me try some other pages13:26
ogra_works fine too13:28
ogra_ricmm, the rotation stuff is sooo much better !!!13:28
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sergiusensdbarth: thanks for the release of the gmail webapp that allows multiple accounts13:52
dbarthsergiusens: yw ;)13:53
dbarthsergiusens: the latest one also lets you work with their recent account url changes13:53
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AskUbuntuubuntu is doomed | http://askubuntu.com/q/48805214:02
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tedgcjwatson, Can I make a click hook that is package based (i.e. not based on a particular entry in "hooks")14:02
cjwatsontedg: don't think so14:03
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ricmmogra_: yup its nice14:27
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blackenedgodhi everyone is there any support of ubuntu touch for xperia sola phone ?14:36
blackenedgodhi everyone is there any support of ubuntu touch for xperia sola phone ?14:40
cwaynemardy: ping14:48
mterrysarnold, hello!  Do you have time today to chat about bug 1234983?14:59
ubot5bug 1234983 in Unity 8 "greeter pin stored in plain text with hidden demo greeter code" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123498314:59
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Cimimterry, https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/ubuntu-system-settings/wizard.privacy/+merge/21312415:54
ogra_slangasek, i understood doko works on the corrupt backtraces ... which is a result of a version skew between gdb/gcc and the libs ?15:54
ogra_slangasek, oh, btw, there was a request to seed gdbserver (so devs dont need to make the image writable for live debugging) ... any objections from the foundations side to that ?15:55
slangasekogra_: where did you hear that?15:55
slangasekogra_: no objections from our side to gdbserver seeding15:56
ogra_slangasek, in a hangout meeting and it was initially found in malta by Wellark iirc15:56
ogra_cool, thanks15:56
slangasekogra_: well, I think that's random speculation; we have a general problem with armhf backtracing unrelated to libstdc++15:56
ogra_oh, ok15:56
pmcgowanslangasek, there is some work on your team to land libqofono in the archive for our system settings work, was wondering if you knew the status15:56
ogra_that was the explanation i heard multiple times15:57
ogra_didnt mean to cause confusion15:57
slangasekpmcgowan: nobody's said anything about libqofono to me; can you give me a more precise pointer? (person / bug report / branch / problem description)15:57
slangasekogra_: right, I don't think that explanation came from foundations though? :)15:57
pmcgowanslangasek, sil2100 was working on it earlier this week based on packaging Ken had done15:57
ogra_yeah, i'm not sure anymore15:57
ogra_ETOOMANYHANGOUTS15:57
ogra_if we had kept IRC meetings i could gerp a log now ...15:58
ogra_*grep15:58
slangasekpmcgowan: ok; I knew from sil2100 that he was looking at some libqofono cleanup, didn't realize that was related to blocking the system settings work.  And I don't find any in-progress code branches anywhere in launchpad for anything called "libqofono" or "qofono".  So I think this will have to wait for his return tomorrow16:05
pmcgowanslangasek, thats fine thank you16:05
slangasekI assume that since it's a new package, all the in-progress stuff is offline somewhere16:06
cwayneis there plans to be common component for app devs to implement bottom swipe?16:10
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davmor2ogra_: you need a hangout irc bot that transcribes the audio to text and then pushes it to a channel.  There's a itch for you to scratch if ever I saw one :D16:25
ogra_haha, yeah16:25
ogra_*just* need to write that speech recognition SW16:26
ogra_might do it on the weekend :P16:26
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dednickboiko: hey. couple of comments on your dialer-app MP.16:45
boikodednick: hello16:45
boikodednick: let me check16:46
boikodednick: so, as I explained to you before, this flag should only be used when the dialer is in focus16:47
boikodednick: because if dialer crashes for whatever reason, the flag won't be set, that's why I didn't bother making it work when in background16:48
dednickboiko: sigh... so i have to check the dialer is in focus. that's kind of crap.16:49
dednickboiko: but ok.16:50
dednickls16:50
boikodednick: I'm open to suggestions on a better way to solve this16:50
boikodednick: is there a public API telephony-service could use to query if dialer-app is running/active?16:51
boikodednick: the only way I see to fix this is to register dialer-app in dbus, and make telephony-service check whether it is registered16:52
boikodednick: but creating a dbus object just to check if the app is alive seems a little too much16:53
dednickboiko: i guess what we have is fine for the moment.16:53
boikodednick: so, when dialer is in focus, you can rely on the callIndicatorVisible, and when it is not, you check the hasCalls16:54
dednickboiko: we can revisit if we ever need other apps to use the property.16:56
boikodednick: yep, ok16:57
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ahayzenfginther, ping17:29
fgintherahayzen, pong17:30
ahayzenfginther, i think i broke jenkins last night with one of my mps...it has got stuck on generic-update_mp for 20hrs17:31
ahayzenfginther, http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-update_mp/3507/console17:31
ahayzenfginther, are you able to resolve that or do i need to talk so someone else?17:31
sarnoldmterry: hello :)17:31
fgintherahayzen, I aborted the job, it should try again17:32
mterrysarnold, hi!  Do you have time for a quick hangout?17:32
ahayzenfginther, ok thanks, there should have been other ones after i guess they would have been queued as well?17:32
fgintherahayzen, yeah, they were stuck. Jenkins doesn't deal with this very well :-(17:32
sarnoldmterry: sure17:33
ahayzenfginther, ok well thanks for unblocking it :)17:33
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* genii makes more coffee18:49
budders893Hello all!19:35
boikomterry: hi, do you have a silo for the greeter active property already?19:35
mterryboiko, no19:35
budders893would ubuntu touch be stable enough to do basic stuff on? like watching youtube, surfing the web etc19:35
boikomterry: what would be the easiest way for me to test this? just build unity8 from your MR?19:36
boikomterry: or do I need more things?19:36
mterryboiko, yeah that should be all you need19:36
boikomterry: nice! btw, I have branches for telephony-service and dialer-app already, they are untested yet though19:37
boikomterry: https://code.launchpad.net/~boiko/telephony-service/greeter_active and https://code.launchpad.net/~boiko/dialer-app/emergency_mode19:38
boikomterry: the dialer one has some mocking code that switches from greeter to non-greeter mode every 3s19:39
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sil2100boiko: hello :)20:07
boikosil2100: hi20:08
sil2100boiko: do you know if you could find someone to do a landing of the gallery-app fix for toolbars? From what I heard Bill is not around, and we would like to get rid of that regression finally ;)20:09
boikosil2100: as far as I know oSoMoN is taking care of that20:09
boikosil2100: well, to get rid of that regression we need also the fix on Mir, what was done on gallery was just a workaround20:10
sil2100boiko: ok, so it seems all our regressions are Mir-related then ;)20:10
sil2100boiko: so let me poke oSoMoN in the morning about that then20:10
ogra_https://code.launchpad.net/~artmello/gallery-app/gallery-app-fix_toolbar_device/+merge/22401320:11
ogra_thats the MP for the issue20:11
ogra_just failed CI anyway20:11
oSoMoNsil2100, I’m testing the fix, I should be able to give an ack for landing soon20:12
sil2100oSoMoN: o/20:13
sil2100oSoMoN: thank you!20:13
boikosil2100: regarding the AP failures on dialer and messaging, I still don't have fixes for those, I'm trying to finish the emergency mode on dialer before working on that20:15
oSoMoNsil2100, silo 5 can be published20:16
boikosil2100: well, actually I have already taken a look at the failures and why they might be happening, just don't have MRs for that yet20:16
sil2100boiko: ok, thanks for looking into those in overall, it's not super urgent but we would like to get those fixed somewhere in the future20:16
sil2100oSoMoN: \o/20:16
sil2100robru: ^20:17
boikosil2100: they will at some point :)20:17
sil2100boiko: I love the sound of that ;)20:17
boikosil2100: hehe20:18
robruoSoMoN, sorry about that, was in a meeting. published20:31
oSoMoNrobru, thanks!20:32
robruoSoMoN, you're welcome20:33
Elleosil2100: heya, if you have a minute to do some reviewing, I've got a branch that works around that keyboard issue now (plus fixes a build issue with the new qt packages): https://code.launchpad.net/~michael-sheldon/ubuntu-keyboard/fix-1332624/+merge/22441920:33
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sil2100Elleo: hey! Let me try looking into that :)20:40
sil2100Elleo: thanks for the fix btw.!20:40
Elleosil2100: thanks :)20:41
pmcgowansil2100, I was looking for you earlier, to get a libqofono update20:41
sil2100pmcgowan: hey! I already got an e-mail from slangasek and we discussed how to proceed further - so, the package was ready, but then I noticed that Ken disabled the tests for the package, and they seem to fail right now20:42
sil2100pmcgowan: so slangasek proposed to fix the tests and only then publish the package20:43
pmcgowansil2100, ah, well that makes sense20:43
sil2100pmcgowan: the ETA is tomorrow morning - if I won't be able to resolve it by then, we'll think of something (like publishing with those disabled for now)20:43
pmcgowansil2100, any idea on whats wrong with the tests?20:43
sil2100pmcgowan: the qmake file is a bit strangely written so it might be some 'paths' missing in our debian/rules file, but I'll know more once I sit down finally and look into the details20:44
pmcgowansil2100, thanks much20:44
sil2100pmcgowan: sorry for the delay, wanted it to happen today but then I had to take almost a day off20:44
pmcgowannp20:44
pmcgowanappreciate the help20:44
pmcgowansil2100, can you help with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtdeclarative-opensource-src/+bug/133417720:54
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1334177 in Ubuntu Reminders app "Regression: Performance hit when editing sorted lists" [Critical,Triaged]20:54
pmcgowanor robru ^^20:55
robrupmcgowan, what do you need? a silo?20:55
pmcgowanrobru, we need a patch applied to that package20:55
pmcgowanrobru, as mirv is out we have no one to do it20:55
robrupmcgowan, does that branch of mzanetti contain the diff you want to apply?20:56
pmcgowanrobru, yes, thats my understanding20:56
robrupmcgowan, ok that branch looks legit. what I'll do is assign a silo and then upload that package, then you can test it20:57
pmcgowanrobru, perfect thanks20:57
mzanettithanks robru, pmcgowan20:57
mzanettisorry, just prepared the branch before and had to leave20:58
robrumzanetti, pmcgowan: ok guys, you're building in silo 3: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/landing-003-1-build/82/console21:06
NightHawk877Hi21:43
NightHawk877I'm running into a problem with my Ubuntu-Touch install on my Nexus 7. I am getting a blank screen after installing it.21:44
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popeymandel: do we have docs for using u-d-m from qml?22:36
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