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whowhat@search linux format04:54
cowabungahi i need help. Can anybody create a patched sisimedia driver for ubuntu? Linux has opensource sis driver, but i borrowed from mageia...04:59
mapps:(05:26
mappsdone it again05:26
ujjainwhy do uk checking accounts give more interest than uk saving accounts?06:58
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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.07:52
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SuperMatthey boys07:55
SuperMatthey girls07:55
SuperMattsuperstar djs07:55
SuperMatthere we go07:55
bashrcmorning07:57
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dwatkinsmoin moin08:10
dwatkinshas anyone ever encountered an issue with e-mail addresses being case-sensitive?08:27
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)08:30
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Colour TV Day! :-D08:34
* bigcalm refuses to watch the TV out of spite08:35
diplodwatkins, remember issues many many moons ago but not anything in the last 5-6 years or more08:41
awilkinsdwatkins, Emails being case-sensitive?? No. Is it a case of email storage being transferred from Windows to Linux though?08:57
awilkinsSimilar parallel when you transfer tables between OSs on MySQL08:58
awilkinsWindows file system names aren't case-sensitive. Linux ones are. Tables are named for their file name. Hilarity ensues.08:58
TwistedLuciditydwatkins: Email addresses are case sensitive. How ever MS Exchange treats them as insensitive.09:23
TwistedLucidityBecause MS doesn't do standards.09:24
TwistedLucidity(I will admit, insensitive local-part is much more user friendly; but it's not what the RFC says) http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html09:25
foobarrymy esxi install recipe has reached 16 pages of A4 :S09:26
BigRedSTwistedLucidity: that's not quite what the RFC says10:45
BigRedSit says the local-part may be case-sensitive depending on the MTA, and so any intermediaries must treat it as if it were10:46
TwistedLucidity"The local-part of a mailbox MUST BE treated as case sensitive."10:47
BigRedSyeah, hang on, I misread your comment...10:47
BigRedSThough IME Exchange doesn't break this, but my experience with Exchange isn't very modern10:48
TwistedLucidityI mean, from a user's perspective joeschmoe and JoeSchmoe are the same. And that's logical to a human.10:48
BigRedSyeah, and I don't recall exchange breaking that assumption10:48
TwistedLucidityI'm fairly sure Exchange treats them as insensitive - perfectly happy to be wrong in that10:48
bigcalmI tried to add case difference to my own email address, bloody thunderbird corrected it because it was a known address :)11:05
ujjainpssst, going to dentist is free with NHS?11:39
TwistedLucidityujjain: Depends what you need doing. Prices are subsidised I think.11:43
TwistedLucidityNo NHS dentists near me, so I have to go private11:44
DJonesujjain: http://www.nhs.uk/chq/pages/1781.aspx?CategoryID=74&SubCategoryID=7411:44
ujjainthanks DJones11:59
ujjainand TwistedLucidity12:00
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foobarrydoes anyone know what a "back leader" is at school sports day14:59
foobarryi'm worried thats a fancy name for being in last place14:59
foobarryah, i think its the position you start in the team relay15:01
foobarryprobably no individual races at that age15:01
popeyno individual races?15:15
popeyreally?15:15
foobarryhe's 415:15
foobarrynursery schoo;15:16
foobarryso its a sort of practice for being a big boy sports day15:16
bigcalmI remember running indervidual races in primary school from 5 onwards. Won most of the running :D15:16
bigcalmI had far too much energy as a child15:17
foobarrynerd sweets15:17
daftykinsi remember winning a race but not being allowed to take part on sports day "because"15:19
daftykins;_;15:19
daftykinsnot bitter at all.15:19
awilkinsIs a back leader the person who goes at the back to make sure that no children go astray?15:19
foobarrynelson mandela a black leader?15:20
foobarryremember the races where you run and collect bean bags in your team of 8 and sit down when u finish15:22
bigcalmUg15:26
foobarryog15:27
bigcalmOok15:27
foobarryig15:29
davmor2ni15:39
foobarrybeen reading hitch hikers guide again15:44
foobarryreminds me of that15:44
daftykins@np15:57
daftykinsoops wrong chan15:57
daftykins;D15:57
andatcheanyone know what the magic incantation is to make the grub menu show up in trusty? Holding shift no longer seems to work16:37
daftykinsthat is the key16:38
daftykinsi believe the other day someone mentioned right shift worked for them instead 0o16:38
daftykinsescape can also interrupt16:39
daftykinsperhaps you're just too slow at it? :)16:39
daftykinsalso, if it's a desktop USB keyboard support could be complicating matters16:39
directhexuefi fast boot is awesome, except when it's hell16:41
andatcheit's a remote keyboard via kvm console16:41
andatchehiding it by default is moronic tbh16:44
daftykinsonly in your opinion16:44
daftykinswhy waste bootup time by having one if it's the only OS?16:44
popeyyeah, left shift, and be quick16:49
bigcalmAlmost end of the day16:52
bigcalmWhat do I want to play before going to the LUG tonight?16:52
popeyETS2!16:52
bigcalmETS2?16:52
popey*parp* *parp* Rubber ducky!16:52
popeyyes, ETS2!16:52
* bigcalm googles16:53
bigcalmOh, god16:53
bigcalmMoving on16:53
bigcalmMight play a little LEGO locally rather than streaming16:54
bigcalmStreaming was fun. But a little intermittent over 5g Hz wifi16:55
bigcalmAnd it appeared to put the content in a box rather than being full screen16:55
bigcalmI did like how I didn't have to do anything other than start Steam on 2 machines16:57
bigcalmWhy can't more things Just Work (tm)?16:57
andatchedaftykins: in case, you know, someone needs to get into single user mode or something ;)16:57
andatchejust displaying the menu for a second would be fine16:57
daftykinsi keep hearing this talk of single user mode but from what i understand that's an old runlevel type term that doesn't exist16:59
daftykinsdo you not just mean root recovery console?16:59
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andatchedaftykins: I mean init=/bin/bash17:01
daftykinsoh does that actually work on ubuntu 0o17:02
popeyyeah17:03
andatcheit will work with any distribution17:03
popeyrecovery console is effectively the same thing, but more friendly and less brutal17:04
daftykins^_^17:04
andatcheyeah17:04
daftykinswould the above skip the mounting as read only though?17:04
andatcheno, rootfs is mounted read only, you need to remount if you want to write to it17:04
daftykinsmmm same as recovery then17:05
popeyor rather, recovery is the same as that ☻17:05
popeychronologically speaking17:05
daftykinsyesh17:05
daftykinssplit those hairs sir! split them!17:05
popeybut yeah, pedanticism aside, its handy17:05
popeynot that anyone can do that on my laptop now I have fully encrypted it :D17:06
MartijnVdSpopey: "Please enter key to decrypt /bin/bash" ?17:06
andatcheboth are useless if you can't get to the grub menu ;)17:07
popeyyou fail at shift17:08
andatchepopey: the exact same setup (remote console to a qemu VM) works fine with a precise box, holding shift displays the menu17:09
daftykinsit presses the shift else it gets the boot again17:12
popeyhehe17:14
foobarrymy wifi is so laggy on this laptop :(20:04
foobarryare powertop tunables remembered after reboot?20:05
foobarrymeh. shoved them into options file20:08
diddledanevenink20:48
brobostigonanyone tried to use a palm os 4 device on a debian or similer machine?20:57
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nobody_anybodyhome?22:23
Azelphurnope22:23
nobody_good22:23
nobody_i have a slight problem22:24
Azelphur!ask | nobody_22:24
lubotu3nobody_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:24
nobody_theres 3 volume ok22:24
nobody_ok22:24
nobody_i have 3 volume control buttons, one of the is dead. sadly, its volume up button. therefore, i do not have any sound. I have tried xdotool to raise the volume but there is still no result22:27
nobody_is it possible to simulate keypress event22:28
nobody_i have acpi event name22:28
Matml__Hi all.23:42
daftykinsMatml__: hi23:49
Matml__hi daftykins, how goes?23:56
daftykinsnot bad ty, yourself?23:56

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