[04:54] @search linux format [04:59] hi i need help. Can anybody create a patched sisimedia driver for ubuntu? Linux has opensource sis driver, but i borrowed from mageia... [05:26] :( [05:26] done it again [06:58] why do uk checking accounts give more interest than uk saving accounts? === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk [07:52] morning boys and girls. === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g [07:55] hey boys [07:55] hey girls [07:55] superstar djs [07:55] here we go [07:57] morning === msm is now known as Guest68836 [08:10] moin moin [08:27] has anyone ever encountered an issue with e-mail addresses being case-sensitive? [08:30] Good morning peeps :) [08:34] Good morning all; happy Colour TV Day! :-D [08:35] * bigcalm refuses to watch the TV out of spite [08:41] dwatkins, remember issues many many moons ago but not anything in the last 5-6 years or more [08:57] dwatkins, Emails being case-sensitive?? No. Is it a case of email storage being transferred from Windows to Linux though? [08:58] Similar parallel when you transfer tables between OSs on MySQL [08:58] Windows file system names aren't case-sensitive. Linux ones are. Tables are named for their file name. Hilarity ensues. [09:23] dwatkins: Email addresses are case sensitive. How ever MS Exchange treats them as insensitive. [09:24] Because MS doesn't do standards. [09:25] (I will admit, insensitive local-part is much more user friendly; but it's not what the RFC says) http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html [09:26] my esxi install recipe has reached 16 pages of A4 :S [10:45] TwistedLucidity: that's not quite what the RFC says [10:46] it says the local-part may be case-sensitive depending on the MTA, and so any intermediaries must treat it as if it were [10:47] "The local-part of a mailbox MUST BE treated as case sensitive." [10:47] yeah, hang on, I misread your comment... [10:48] Though IME Exchange doesn't break this, but my experience with Exchange isn't very modern [10:48] I mean, from a user's perspective joeschmoe and JoeSchmoe are the same. And that's logical to a human. [10:48] yeah, and I don't recall exchange breaking that assumption [10:48] I'm fairly sure Exchange treats them as insensitive - perfectly happy to be wrong in that [11:05] I tried to add case difference to my own email address, bloody thunderbird corrected it because it was a known address :) [11:39] pssst, going to dentist is free with NHS? [11:43] ujjain: Depends what you need doing. Prices are subsidised I think. [11:44] No NHS dentists near me, so I have to go private [11:44] ujjain: http://www.nhs.uk/chq/pages/1781.aspx?CategoryID=74&SubCategoryID=74 [11:59] thanks DJones [12:00] and TwistedLucidity === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === liam_ is now known as Guest85350 === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === deegee__ is now known as drussell [14:59] does anyone know what a "back leader" is at school sports day [14:59] i'm worried thats a fancy name for being in last place [15:01] ah, i think its the position you start in the team relay [15:01] probably no individual races at that age [15:15] no individual races? [15:15] really? [15:15] he's 4 [15:16] nursery schoo; [15:16] so its a sort of practice for being a big boy sports day [15:16] I remember running indervidual races in primary school from 5 onwards. Won most of the running :D [15:17] I had far too much energy as a child [15:17] nerd sweets [15:19] i remember winning a race but not being allowed to take part on sports day "because" [15:19] ;_; [15:19] not bitter at all. [15:19] Is a back leader the person who goes at the back to make sure that no children go astray? [15:20] nelson mandela a black leader? [15:22] remember the races where you run and collect bean bags in your team of 8 and sit down when u finish [15:26] Ug [15:27] og [15:27] Ook [15:29] ig [15:39] ni [15:44] been reading hitch hikers guide again [15:44] reminds me of that [15:57] @np [15:57] oops wrong chan [15:57] ;D [16:37] anyone know what the magic incantation is to make the grub menu show up in trusty? Holding shift no longer seems to work [16:38] that is the key [16:38] i believe the other day someone mentioned right shift worked for them instead 0o [16:39] escape can also interrupt [16:39] perhaps you're just too slow at it? :) [16:39] also, if it's a desktop USB keyboard support could be complicating matters [16:41] uefi fast boot is awesome, except when it's hell [16:41] it's a remote keyboard via kvm console [16:44] hiding it by default is moronic tbh [16:44] only in your opinion [16:44] why waste bootup time by having one if it's the only OS? [16:49] yeah, left shift, and be quick [16:52] Almost end of the day [16:52] What do I want to play before going to the LUG tonight? [16:52] ETS2! [16:52] ETS2? [16:52] *parp* *parp* Rubber ducky! [16:52] yes, ETS2! [16:53] * bigcalm googles [16:53] Oh, god [16:53] Moving on [16:54] Might play a little LEGO locally rather than streaming [16:55] Streaming was fun. But a little intermittent over 5g Hz wifi [16:55] And it appeared to put the content in a box rather than being full screen [16:57] I did like how I didn't have to do anything other than start Steam on 2 machines [16:57] Why can't more things Just Work (tm)? [16:57] daftykins: in case, you know, someone needs to get into single user mode or something ;) [16:57] just displaying the menu for a second would be fine [16:59] i keep hearing this talk of single user mode but from what i understand that's an old runlevel type term that doesn't exist [16:59] do you not just mean root recovery console? === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:01] daftykins: I mean init=/bin/bash [17:02] oh does that actually work on ubuntu 0o [17:03] yeah [17:03] it will work with any distribution [17:04] recovery console is effectively the same thing, but more friendly and less brutal [17:04] ^_^ [17:04] yeah [17:04] would the above skip the mounting as read only though? [17:04] no, rootfs is mounted read only, you need to remount if you want to write to it [17:05] mmm same as recovery then [17:05] or rather, recovery is the same as that ☻ [17:05] chronologically speaking [17:05] yesh [17:05] split those hairs sir! split them! [17:05] but yeah, pedanticism aside, its handy [17:06] not that anyone can do that on my laptop now I have fully encrypted it :D [17:06] popey: "Please enter key to decrypt /bin/bash" ? [17:07] both are useless if you can't get to the grub menu ;) [17:08] you fail at shift [17:09] popey: the exact same setup (remote console to a qemu VM) works fine with a precise box, holding shift displays the menu [17:12] it presses the shift else it gets the boot again [17:14] hehe [20:04] my wifi is so laggy on this laptop :( [20:05] are powertop tunables remembered after reboot? [20:08] meh. shoved them into options file [20:48] evenink [20:57] anyone tried to use a palm os 4 device on a debian or similer machine? === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [22:23] anybodyhome? [22:23] nope [22:23] good [22:24] i have a slight problem [22:24] !ask | nobody_ [22:24] nobody_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [22:24] theres 3 volume ok [22:24] ok [22:27] i have 3 volume control buttons, one of the is dead. sadly, its volume up button. therefore, i do not have any sound. I have tried xdotool to raise the volume but there is still no result [22:28] is it possible to simulate keypress event [22:28] i have acpi event name [23:42] Hi all. [23:49] Matml__: hi [23:56] hi daftykins, how goes? [23:56] not bad ty, yourself?