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Saviqmhr3, hey, can you reproduce the "missing arrows" in depts?07:32
Saviqmhr3, I can't...07:32
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mhr3Saviq, my unity is kinda crashing now, will check once it works :)07:33
Saviqkk07:35
Saviqmhr3, "4. Sorting is a known ToDo for the client, the server is providing the values. [client]"?07:36
mhr3Saviq, the left part of "departments"07:36
Saviqmhr3, yeah, how are we getting that?07:37
Saviqmhr3, did we agree on -scopes-shell API for that?07:37
mhr3Saviq, not really, for us it's a regular-ish options filter, but we need to expose it in a different way07:37
Saviqmhm, let's have a chat at some point07:38
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Cimipete-woods, morning! did you have time to test the ppa?07:53
pete-woodsCimi: I'm just putting it on my phone now07:53
Cimipete-woods, thanks!07:53
SaviqCimi, I think we need some placeholder if there's no infographics on the greeter... it looks so bland otherwise :|08:18
CimiSaviq, I agree08:19
CimiSaviq, but I remember you saying the backend should give us one08:19
Saviqdid I?08:19
Saviqnot sure that's right...08:19
Cimiyes but I am happy to ad a placeholder08:19
Cimiso we don't clutter the model08:19
Cimiwith fake results08:20
SaviqCimi, yeah, talk to Jouni or someone - ideally show them why ;)08:20
SaviqCimi, mentioning bug #128627608:20
ubot5bug 1286276 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Lock screen whines that "No data sources available" on first use" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128627608:20
mzanettiuh. logout is merged! yay08:21
* mzanetti upgraded08:21
mzanetti-d +s08:21
mhr3Saviq, yea, let's define it at some point... point closer to the end of the week though08:25
Saviqpete-woods, fwiw, I just upgraded from silo 9, called the phone a few times, texted it, made some photos with the .deb camera app from the silo... no dice, welcome screen still empty :|08:25
pete-woodsbah08:26
Saviqmhr3, wait for it, mikenagle just asked me about having three dropdowns ;)08:26
mhr3of course he did...08:26
mhr3cause one top level navigation is never enough08:26
Saviqmhr3, truth be told the original plan was, after all, to have two equal dropdowns08:27
Saviqthen you stripped it down to one single-level, one multi-level08:27
Saviqwhich at least to me means more work ;P08:28
mhr3cause we totally want scopes to deal with exponential explosion of ways things can be surfaced08:28
mikenaglesaviq mhr3 - it's not my fault :) It's Timeout08:28
Saviqmhr3, well now, it'd be the scope that decides wouldn't it08:28
Saviqmhr3, on every request it'd supply 0-3 dropdowns08:28
mhr3Saviq, making it buggy and reflecting bad on our platform08:28
Saviqmhr3, sure, maybe, just saying08:29
Saviqmikenagle, so yah, remember the left-hand-side one is single-level, no drilling down08:29
mikenaglesaviq mhr3 - this i didn't know08:30
Saviqyay for comms :|08:30
pete-woodsSaviq: just got the stuff from the silo installed now, going to try and figure out why "real" data sources don't work08:30
Saviqpete-woods, kk08:30
mhr3mikenagle, didn't we talk about that?08:30
mikenaglemhr3 - not that I remember but that doesn't mean no :)08:31
mhr3on malta actually08:31
mhr3Saviq, anyway, i need uri mangling in previews to use the caching image provider08:32
Saviqmhr3, mikenagle, it was probably a case of mhr3 asking "should we limit that to single level" and mikenagle you responded "yes!" thinking for this one case, when mhr3 wanted to know globally08:32
mhr3Saviq, not something i'd like to do in the plugin, cause previews are just data exposed to shell without any semantics08:33
Saviqmhr3, mangle how?08:33
mhr3Saviq, http://foo.com/bar.png -> image://cached/u=http...08:33
Saviqmhr3, think that's fine, why, though?08:34
Saviqmhr3, why are previews special?08:35
mhr3Saviq, as i said, it's just dicts of data without semantics for the plugin, it doesn't know which field should be mangled and which not08:35
mhr3Saviq, we want to apply it just to images08:35
Saviqmhr3, no, I mean why doesn't mangling in Image not good enough?08:36
Saviqs/doesn't/isn't/08:36
mhr3Saviq, does u8 have it's own image?08:36
mhr3Saviq, cause it can't be done in the sdk image08:36
Saviqmhr3, huh? wasn't that the whole point?08:37
pete-woodsSaviq: er, "works for me"?08:37
pete-woodsjust installed the camera app from the silo08:37
Saviqpete-woods, interesting :|08:37
pete-woodstook a picture08:37
pete-woodsand it makes it all the way through to the greeter08:37
pete-woodsI have no SIM card to test the telephony app, thoug08:37
mhr3Saviq, ok, my bad forgot to update you, i was talking with florian who convinced me that trying to do it in the sdk is a bad idea08:37
pete-woodsso that could be broken perhaps08:37
Saviqpete-woods, /var/lib/usermetrics kinda empty here08:37
pete-woodsSaviq: I'm really very confident about the actual backing service08:38
Saviqpete-woods, you can install ofono-phonesim to pretend you have a SIM08:38
pete-woodsit's most likely that the input API could have gone wrong08:38
Saviqmhr3, so we don't get caching in apps?08:38
mhr3Saviq, basically the api they're using for it isn't supported, nor documented and introduces problems with signals, so they're actually trying to get rid of it08:38
SaviqBAAHA08:38
mhr3Saviq, nope08:38
Saviqmhr3, short-term I assume?08:39
* pete-woods installs fake SIM package08:39
Saviqmhr3, fine, we can be explicit about caching in shell for the time being08:39
mhr3Saviq, yea, there is an old proposal how to do some kind of qml caching api08:39
mhr3Saviq, think you even saw it at some point08:40
mhr3so that would be the solution08:40
mhr3long-term08:40
Saviqpete-woods, FWIW http://paste.ubuntu.com/7699369/08:41
Saviqmhr3, I think *the* solution is to build default image provider support into Qt08:41
* Saviq hates it how we don't consider real upstream solutions :|08:42
mhr3Saviq, ok yea, but ultimately you want to be caching more than just images08:42
mhr3so caching api still useful08:42
Saviqmhr3, sure08:42
Saviqmhr3, in that case we could just do the QNetworkFoo in the shell ;)08:43
Saviqso Florian would get his way08:44
Saviqpete-woods, anywhere I can look for some messages on what happens and why I'm not getting any infog?08:44
mhr3Saviq, yea, what i implemented in the image provider is ultimately just that :/08:44
pete-woodsSaviq: so you should be seeing files in ~/.cache/APP_NAME/usermetrics08:45
pete-woodsfor both com.ubuntu.camera, and telephony-service08:45
mhr3Saviq, it does allow us to cache resolution specific stuff though08:45
mhr3which it isn't doing yet though08:45
Saviqpete-woods, ok, rebooted and it's there08:45
Saviqpete-woods, at least for camera08:46
Saviqpete-woods, empty for telephony (the dir is there)08:46
pete-woodsSaviq: I'm thinking there's something up with the telephony service here08:46
pete-woodsyeah08:46
* pete-woods trying to figure out why this is08:46
Saviqpete-woods, kk08:46
Saviqpete-woods, should a reboot have been necessary?08:46
pete-woodsSaviq: can you test taking another picture?08:46
pete-woodsit should the first time, or the new services won't be running08:47
pete-woodsit starts the usermetrics (session) service on dbus start08:47
Saviqpete-woods, well, yeah, I did reboot after upgrading08:47
pete-woodsif there's a better activation for my upstart file then I'm very much all ears08:47
pete-woodsSaviq: oh :(08:47
pete-woodshow do I use this ofono-sim thing then?08:48
* pete-woods googling for infos08:48
Saviqpete-woods, it should Just Work™ for the most part08:48
Saviqpete-woods, reboot might be needed08:49
* pete-woods reboots again08:49
pete-woodsI should see the signal strength indicator, right?08:49
Saviqpete-woods, yeah08:50
mzanettiSaviq: do you know if that can be used to emulate SIM pin entry scenarios?08:50
pete-woodshmm, not getting that08:50
Saviqmzanetti, if not, it should08:50
Saviqpete-woods, ah stupid me, I got the camera app from .deb so no hook08:50
mzanettiheh. fair enough08:50
Saviqpete-woods, but still nothing from telephony, anyway, I'll leave you to it and let me know if you need me to test something08:51
Saviqpete-woods, to check out how to use it, you could probably look at messaging / dialer autopilot tests08:55
Saviqpete-woods, also, there's a ofono-phonesim-autostart08:55
pete-woodsthat's a good idea08:55
pete-woodshmm, unpleasant looking dep list08:56
pete-woodsdbus-x11 libfontenc1 libgl1-mesa-glx libxaw7 libxcb-dri3-0 libxcb-glx008:56
pete-woods  libxcb-present0 libxfont1 libxkbfile1 libxmu6 libxmuu1 libxpm4 libxshmfence108:56
pete-woods  x11-xkb-utils xauth xserver-common xvfb08:56
* pete-woods worries about breaking GL08:57
Saviqpete-woods, no need to worry08:59
pete-woodswell I installed it anyway! :p08:59
pete-woodsseems to have done the trick :)09:00
pete-woodshmm, dialer is not fooled, though09:00
Saviqdednick, Cimi, heh, I was surprised to see that the settings app doesn't actually use ubuntu-settings-components ;P09:30
seb128Saviq, the code there was in place before u-s-c was ready to be used, and nobody "ported" it to it then, that would be nice to do though09:33
Saviqseb128, mhm09:33
dednickSaviq: meh...09:38
Saviqdednick, how is the indicator icon colour communicated?09:54
dednickSaviq: it's not.09:55
Saviqdednick, so they just change the icon source?09:56
dednickSaviq: yep09:56
Saviqdednick, kk09:56
pete-woodsSaviq: could you kick a build for the silo? (I have two changes - one for libusermetrics and one for telephony-service)09:59
pete-woodsbut I've just pushed the libusermetrics one first09:59
Saviqpete-woods, sure09:59
pete-woodsso we don't get a depwait09:59
Saviqpete-woods, push both, I'll just make sure to wait for lum to build first09:59
Saviqpete-woods, I can control which packages build10:00
pete-woodsSaviq: oh, cool, pushing now10:00
pete-woodsokay, pushed10:00
MacSlowphew... almost thought my n4 was bricked10:01
Saviqdednick, any idea why "icon:" is empty in indicators-client?10:01
dednickSaviq: probably using "icons"10:06
Saviqdednick, ah, so we need to print that out, too10:06
Saviqdednick, ktx10:06
dednickSaviq: it's in the actionState.icons field.10:07
dednickthe "icons:" is for menu item. doesnt change.10:08
Saviqdednick, for menu item? I'm about the icons in the panel, though, does that apply?10:09
dednickSaviq: yeah, it still has a menu item for the panel entry, but the widgets use the action for the menu to display info10:11
Saviqdednick, ok, so the model printer doesn't print it out10:11
dednickSaviq: nope.10:11
dednickSaviq: let me have a think about how to do it.10:13
Saviqdednick, don't worry10:13
dednickSaviq: hm. it would be useful though. not sure why it isn't working properly now.10:15
Saviqdednick, latersz10:16
dednickSaviq: ok. think it probably just can't convert the icon variant type without the fancy shizzle i have to do for the root items.10:17
dednicksort out later.10:17
dednickSaviq: you know where ubuntu-app-launch application logs go?10:34
Saviqdednick, ~/.cache/upstart/application-{click,legacy}-foo10:35
dednickSaviq: ta10:35
Saviqpete-woods, kicked telephony-service11:11
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Saviqmzanetti, hey, what's the status on the header?11:15
facundobatistaHolas11:15
mzanettiSaviq: timp is done with the api changes, was blocked on CI to land those yesterday11:16
mzanettiSaviq: other that that, I don't think there will be big issues still. was working fine with the old api already11:16
mzanettiSaviq: have swipe to close implemented on top of QtComp now11:16
Saviqmzanetti, ok great11:16
mzanettiSaviq: will move back to the header now11:16
Saviqmzanetti, tkx11:16
mzanettifacundobatista: o/11:17
facundobatistahola mzanetti :)11:17
mzanettifacundobatista: does the scopetool work for you now?11:18
facundobatistamzanetti, the unity-scope-tool or the tool to check all the possible widgets configs?11:19
mzanettiah right... it was the cardtool11:19
mzanettiwell, all those tools we tried to get running in Malta11:19
mhr3Saviq, could you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/caching-image-provider/+merge/224415 ?11:23
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Saviqmhr3, will do11:23
Saviqmhr3, tested that it actually helps? ;)11:23
mhr3Saviq, it does if the server is setup correctly... ours aren't but it's being fixed11:24
Saviqmhr3, kk11:24
mhr3Saviq, wonder if the results themselves should be mangled by the shell itself or the plugin11:26
mhr3Saviq, i did it in the plugin atm, but maybe it would be cleaner in shell?11:27
Saviqmhr3, shell better11:27
Saviqmhr3, otherwise you're dead if you use the scopes plugin without the cacher11:27
mhr3Saviq, true, then feel free to use as a quick test, but that's it https://code.launchpad.net/~mhr3/unity-scopes-shell/use-caching-image-provider/+merge/22441811:28
mhr3use ^^11:28
Saviqmhr3, kk11:28
MalsasaHello, anyone can give me a clue? I've asked here at April but until this June I have no idea at all. http://askubuntu.com/questions/447587/alt-key-for-hud-doesnt-work11:29
om26erunity8 crashes on my desktop when i start it from terminal, why is that so ?11:39
om26erI need to write some tests so need help there.11:39
om26erhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7699992/11:41
mhr3Saviq, oh and btw arrows work fine here with scope-tool... but you already know that now :)11:41
Saviqmhr3, yup ;)11:42
Saviqmhr3, I just wonder how facundobatista ended up without the package11:42
Saviqah, uitk doesn't depend on it11:43
mhr3doesn't seem to be a direct dep11:43
facundobatistaSaviq, mhr3, I answered the mail... with that package, all see the ">" ok :)11:44
Saviqit was unity8's, I was sure UITK took over11:44
Saviqfacundobatista, yup, cool11:44
facundobatistathank you!11:44
Saviq/food11:48
dakirahey. is there a way to see a list of currently active indicators. I'm looking for a way to identify the chrome notification indicator and a way to block it from appearing.11:54
larsudakira: doesn't chrome have a setting to disable the indicator?11:57
dakiralarsu: only in the win and mac version.11:57
dakiralarsu: which is probably a bug11:58
larsudakira: crazy. I don't think there's a way to block specific application indicators11:59
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dakiralarsu: too bad. there should be. I think this will become more and more of a problem, apps poluting the notification area with their unneccessary indicators.12:27
larsudakira: I agree. We should even have UI for this.12:34
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om26ermzanetti, how can I add an icon to the launcher programatically  ?13:13
mzanettiom26er: you can't13:13
om26ermzanetti, hmm, any to add it hackishly ?13:13
om26er*way13:13
om26ermzanetti, I have to add a test for the launcher where we make sure pulling the launcher out and tapping on it opens an app13:14
om26erI don't want to rely on stock apps, I would rather create a dummy app and put its icon in the launcher during my test13:14
mzanettiom26er: yes, you can in that case13:15
mzanettiom26er: use this to see current config:13:15
mzanettigdbus call --system --dest org.freedesktop.Accounts --object-path /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User32011 --method org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Get com.canonical.unity.AccountsService launcher-items13:15
mzanettiom26er: use this to reset to default config (being read from dconf):13:15
mzanettigdbus call --system --dest org.freedesktop.Accounts --object-path /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User32011 --method org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Set com.canonical.unity.AccountsService launcher-items "<[{'defaults' : <true>}]>"13:15
mzanettiom26er: change that last argument to contain whatever items you want13:16
mzanettisee output from the Get call on syntax13:16
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om26ermzanetti, lets say I want to add camera-app to the launcher, how do I do that in this syntax ?13:24
mzanettiom26er: you drag the launcher on the phone how you like it, then call the Get method above13:25
mzanettiom26er: then you copy, paste the output into the last parameter of the Set call13:25
Saviqgreyback, jenkins is confused because you renamed "devel" to "devel-mir-next"13:28
Saviqgreyback, and jenkins somehow still wants devel...13:29
Saviqgreyback, ah well, because it's "unity-mir-devel-autolanding"13:29
greybackSaviq: wasn't me who renamed, but ok, need CI person to update jenkins13:30
Saviqgreyback, looks like the job got confused, yeah13:30
Saviqgreyback, it was the general "you"13:30
Saviqgreyback, but in any case... this MP has nothing to do with devel (or devel-mir-next), so there's basically some bug in the job13:30
greybackright13:30
pete-woodsSaviq: okay, those changes fixed the telephony app now13:34
Saviqpete-woods, cool beanz13:34
Saviqpete-woods, any way I can convince the .deb camera to work, too?13:34
pete-woodsSaviq: for me the .deb camera app "just worked"13:35
pete-woodsI just installed it from the silo13:35
Saviqpete-woods, hmm interesting13:35
Saviqpete-woods, ok, will try again in a bit13:35
AlbertAmterry: mterry_: could you do me a favor and review this: https://code.launchpad.net/~albaguirre/unity-system-compositor/screen-power-state-handling/+merge/21395713:39
mterry_AlbertA, just looking at that now actually13:39
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AlbertAmterry: oh cool...thanks!13:39
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Saviqdednick, minor thing https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/ubuntu-settings-components/suru-theme/+merge/220739/comments/53888313:51
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paulliuSaviq, Cimi, https://code.launchpad.net/~paulliu/unity8/lp1330957/+merge/22377914:03
Saviqotp, Cimi can you review please14:04
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CimiSaviq, branch is fine, do we want to add the margin on the case without mascot, art?14:07
SaviqCimi, I don't think so14:07
Saviqotp14:08
dednickSaviq: rightLabel?14:09
dednickwhat issue in settings?14:13
Saviqdednick, huge icon in Languages14:15
Saviqdednick, because they're using the standard menu from SDK which doesn't cope well with the new icons14:16
dednickSaviq: and rightLabel would help why?14:16
Saviqdednick, because they have two labels there, and the StandardMenu you added does cope well with the new icons :)14:17
dednickSaviq: i c14:18
dednickSaviq: give me a minute. i will investigate what i can do.14:19
Saviqdednick, sure ;)14:19
AlbertAmterry: thanks for the review14:23
AlbertAmterry: about powerd service watcher14:23
AlbertAmterry: the dbus messages will be send to whatever owner happens to be the owner of that interface14:24
AlbertAmterry: the reason for the watcher initially is for initializing the default brightness parameters14:24
mterryAlbertA, but we don't want to re-init those?14:24
AlbertAmterry: I thought about it, but it would be ill defined...as we also get the default brightness which may have been changed14:25
AlbertAmterry: by the user already14:25
AlbertAmterry: but I guess I could change it so it always does14:26
AlbertAlisten to it14:26
mterryAlbertA, whatever makes sense.  I just didn't want that possibility to be overlooked14:27
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AlbertAmterry: ok I've changed it....14:47
AlbertAmterry: as for the power-off-delay option...the branch for the touch-session can come in a separate landing right?14:48
mterryAlbertA, I would have thought it would abort() on an unknown argument -- Mir likes to do that14:48
mterryAlbertA, but apparently it doesn't...14:48
mterryAlbertA, it can come separately I guess yah14:49
om26ermzanetti, thanks for the tip, it works but changes only take place on restarting unity15:01
om26erany other way to make them effective or is restart the only way15:01
mzanettiom26er: atm restarting is the only way15:03
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AlbertAmterry: so can I get your approval with the usc mp?15:20
mterryAlbertA, k15:22
Saviqmhr3, I chatted with mikenagle earlier, any objection to removing fill-mode from the toolkit (and doing a private hack for the app icons, which we need anyway)?15:28
mhr3Saviq, nope, hack away!15:28
mhr3it's really getting rid of hack, so i'm happy15:29
Saviqmhr3, indeed, and people are abusing/confused by it15:29
mhr3we'll need to update docs though15:29
Saviqlet's do it together with scope customs15:29
Saviqwe'll still need to find a way to impl it for apps15:30
mhr3Saviq, implement a special renderer for them?15:30
mhr3well... yea... no15:31
Saviqmhr3, no, not really, just add a private hack15:31
Saviqmhr3, that we'll have in the shell, but not expose to scopes15:31
mhr3Saviq, anyway, speaking about customizations, i suppose you wanted the same merge with defaults, so the variant map isn't empty thing that we're doing for categories?15:31
Saviqmhr3, you're talking the global ones?15:32
mhr3Saviq, yea15:32
Saviqmhr3, they were mostly null by default, weren't they?15:32
mhr3Saviq, so if scope doesn't define any customizations, you're fine with having empty variant map?15:32
Saviqmhr3, only "background-color" is non-null15:33
Saviqmhr3, but it might just as well be15:33
Saviqmhr3, yeah, empty is fine15:33
mhr3ah, good, i thought i'd have to change things :)15:33
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MacSlowmterry, I've also added a quick side-by-side comparison video to LP: #1331551 ... now we just need a pair of eyes from Design to confirm the invalid status of said bug.15:48
ubot5Launchpad bug 1331551 in unity-system-compositor (Ubuntu) "Some design fixes for boot animation spinner" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/133155115:48
mterryMacSlow, cool.  Maybe they wanted the logo to be bigger on n10 instead of same size?  I dunno15:49
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MacSlowmterry, we'll have to see what jouni & Co provide as feedback15:50
mterrySaviq, do we have a proposed fix for the tst_Shell.qml qmluitest crash?15:52
elopiocan I get a quick review please?16:07
elopiohttps://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/unity8/flake8/+merge/22349516:07
greybackmterry: Cimi: I can't log bugs for welcome wizard (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-welcome-wizard)16:07
mterrygreyback, it's part of ubuntu-system-settings16:08
greybackmterry: ah ok16:08
greybackCimi: could you edit https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-welcome-wizard to say it now is part of ubuntu-system-settings? Or delete the project entirely?16:09
Cimigreyback, will keep if if we decide to split16:09
Cimigreyback, but will edit it accordingly16:10
greybackCimi: thanks16:10
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dednickSaviq: re my question about qml focus events earlier: what component receives the app focus event?16:25
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mzanettiSaviq: still around?16:31
mzanettidednick: what do you mean with "the app focus event"?16:31
mzanettidednick: if you focus an app, where the focus ends up inside the app?16:31
dednickmzanetti: i mean that a qml application is focused.16:33
dednickmzanetti: i think it's "Qt.application.active"16:33
mzanettidednick: hmm... if that's inside an app, yes, probably16:34
mzanettidednick: if you need the information inside unity, you probably want to import Unity.Application16:34
mzanettiand get the focusedApplication16:34
dednickmzanetti: it's inside the app. thanks.16:35
greybackhey, has anyone tried profiling unity8 on the device via QtCreator? I'm getting stuck setting my touch device up in QtC, if I use my ssh key it fails with "SSH connection failure: Decoding of private key file failed: Format not understood."16:37
mzanettistrange16:38
mzanettigreyback: right... I think I know what happened16:38
mzanettigreyback: SDK people moved the ssh key to ~/.config/ubuntu-sdk/16:38
mzanettigreyback: in order to not mess with the user's ssh keys any more16:39
mzanettigreyback: however, I assume that's ubuntu specific stuff not understood by whole QtCreator16:39
mzanettigreyback: so you probably want ot deploy one of your keys in ~/.ssh too16:39
greybackmzanetti: it's strange, if I manually ssh in, my usual id_rsa key works fine. But QtC fails16:40
mzanettigreyback: try setting the device up in qtc's settings as generic linux device16:40
greybackmzanetti: that's what I'm donig actually16:40
mzanettihmm, ok16:41
mzanettirunning out of ideas here16:41
greybackyeah. I'm a bit miffed16:41
greybackI'll try making a new keypair and use that16:42
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kgunnmhall119: hey you gotta minute to hop on a hangout ?19:03
mhall119kgunn: sure, got a URL?19:08
kgunnmhall119: 2 secs19:09
kgunnmhall119: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/g3jfv4rdr4rxlffdbi5jpy6ebqa19:10
kgunntedg: dude is like scarey tornado looking where you are? my sky just went black19:12
mhall119kgunn: says the party is over :(19:12
kgunnmhall119: lets try this one https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/g7by2uijbii637kuyplmyck7baa19:14
* mhall119 hopes kgunn's weather didn't end the party prematurely19:14
kgunnjust me & toto19:14
mhall119kgunn: same thing...19:14
mhall119kgunn: can you join https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/g7heukxf2v22yrxz5esergeczqa?hl=en ?19:16
tedgkgunn, Not yet, but not looking good.19:23
tedgkgunn, Have to drive to Plano to pick up the kid from hockey camp in a bit too…19:23
kgunnstay safe19:24
tedgkgunn, Not sure whether I should be more worried about the clouds or Texas drivers in the rain :-)19:26
kgunntx drivers obviously19:27
Saviqmterry, no, Albert was digging into it but didn't get much anywhere yet19:38
Saviqmzanetti, back now19:38
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Saviqkarni, hey, I'm still around22:02
Saviqkarni, does `url-dispatcher http://foo/` work on the console (you might need to install url-dispatcher-tools)22:03
karniSaviq: hi22:07
karnilet me try22:07
karniSaviq: ** (process:4135): WARNING **: Unable to dispatch url 'http://google.com':GDBus.Error:com.canonical.URLDispatcher.BadURL: URL 'http://google.com' is not handleable by the URL Dispatcher22:08
Saviqkarni, works here, anything you could upgrade?22:09
Saviqtedg, any pointers for karni ↑?22:09
karniSaviq: you mean, a utopic-proposed has been updated since.. let me think.. I think I flashed it morning of Wednesday22:09
Saviqkarni, so yesterday morning?22:10
karniit's r9622:10
karniwhat you're testing on?22:10
* Saviq on r9722:10
Saviqlet me see if I downgrade to 96 if that changes anything22:10
karnif... well, let me test connectivity in this hotel22:10
karniSaviq: thanks, that may actually be faster :(22:10
karnilooks like 10Mbps, not that bad22:11
karniSaviq: I've been using dual boot (humpolec) for a while now, and I have the demo in 10 hours. let me refresh my memory here: ubuntu-device-flash --channel=utopic-proposed is the command?22:12
Saviqkarni, I'm dual-booting too22:12
karniSaviq: so.. ubuntu-device-flash flashes recovery by default? how do you install older revision with humpolec?22:13
Saviqkarni, that's why I want to check - don't flash without me verifying that that'll fix anything22:13
karniSaviq: ok :)22:13
* karni waits22:13
Saviqkarni, the changes between 96 and 97 don't suggest anything good :|22:15
Saviqhttp://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/97.changes22:15
Saviqkarni, btw, you know you can side-load images from your laptop with humpolec? so that you don't download them on the device all the time?22:16
karniSaviq: I'll be honest, I'm not sure what's that supposed to tell me :(22:16
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Saviqkarni, it's supposed to tell you nothing related to url-dispatcher landed in image 97, so it's not really likely that this will help :|22:17
karniaha :/22:17
Saviqbut let's see, maybe the session22:17
karniSaviq: but you said url dispatcher works for you in r97?22:17
Saviqkarni, yeah, just flashing r96 to check if it doesn't there22:17
karnithanks22:17
Saviqbut really unlikely :|22:18
karniSaviq: I can bootstrap, wipe hope, whatever. I mean, if it's working for you, I can really flash. whatever makes it work.22:19
Saviqkarni, yeah, that's what I think will need to happen, your device might've gotten confused somehow22:20
Saviqkarni, but let's see first, almost there22:20
karniokay, thanks Saviq, I appreciate your help22:20
karni(again, this week)22:20
Saviqkarni, nw, sorry for yanking stuff from under your feet ;)22:20
karniSaviq: np. it's been a hard week for me xD22:21
karni(in general)22:21
Saviqdoesn't sound like "np."22:21
karnithings happen, no probs :)22:23
karniI rarely have a presentation and a customer meeting in a single week ;D22:23
Saviqkarni, yeah, 96 works for me, too22:23
Saviqkarni, without tedg, my only recommendation is to wipe user data and flash from scratch with the dualboot app in android22:24
karniokay, I'll do that, thank you Saviq !22:24
Saviqkarni, you know how to side-load with humpolec? in case you'd need to flash again?22:24
karniSaviq: I haven't done it before, no. Is it on the wiki somewhere?22:25
Saviqkarni, "channel" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation#Dual_boot_installer_command_reference22:25
karniSaviq: thanks22:26
Saviqkarni, but you need to make sure to uninstall Ubuntu first and close the app, otherwise it won't look for the sideloaded files22:26
karniok22:27
Saviqkarni, so my workflow is: adb reboot; ./dualboot.sh channel utopic-proposed;22:27
Saviqkarni, and while it's downloading / uploading to the device, I go into the app and press uninstall22:27
karniack22:27
Saviqfrom the three-dot menu22:27
Saviqkarni, close the app and wait for it to come up again after it's done uploading22:28
Saviqthen you just go "resume install" and you're done22:28
* karni notes it all22:28
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karniSaviq: have departments been promoted to utopic?22:37
Saviqkarni, not yet it doesn't seem22:38
karniack22:38
Saviqkarni, last promoted is 87, depts landed in 9022:39
karnicwayne: FYI ↑22:39
karniSaviq: dispatcher works in latest proposed, thank you23:02
tedgkarni, Saviq, there seems to be a bug where the db isn't getting updated correctly. Probably doesn't have an http entry :-/23:03
tedgkarni, If you still have it please upload your crash files, there should be one there about the issue.23:03
karnitedg: no, sorry, I clean-flashed it23:05
tedgEver since I updated the logging they're not happening on the CI system anymore :-/23:05
tedgAh, okay.23:05
karnitedg: Saviq: one last comment I have - it takes 5-10, maybe even 15 seconds for a browser to pop after clicking a button on a preview. I'm not sure if this is purely browser related, affected by network here, or influenced by url-dispatcher, but just providing general feedback.23:06
karni27 seconds to pop the browser :( what is interesting is the page is already loaded. I'd prefer to see the browser immediately, and see the page being loaded instead.23:07
tedgkarni, There's work planned to look at application startup. I don't think those optimizations have hit yet.23:08
tedgAn important issue for almost all apps.23:08
karnigreat23:08
* tedg knows *his* part of that hasn't landed, not sure about others.23:08
karniHas anyone noticed the keyboard doesn't pop up? I bet once I write this, it'll start working magically23:09
karni(when trying to search a scope, that is)23:09
* karni tries r9523:15
karnikeyboard doesn't pop up in r95 of utopic-proposed23:36
karni:(23:36
karniescalated to my team to pick this up. g'night o/23:59

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