=== _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem [07:32] mhr3, hey, can you reproduce the "missing arrows" in depts? [07:32] mhr3, I can't... === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk [07:33] Saviq, my unity is kinda crashing now, will check once it works :) [07:35] kk [07:36] mhr3, "4. Sorting is a known ToDo for the client, the server is providing the values. [client]"? [07:36] Saviq, the left part of "departments" [07:37] mhr3, yeah, how are we getting that? [07:37] mhr3, did we agree on -scopes-shell API for that? [07:37] Saviq, not really, for us it's a regular-ish options filter, but we need to expose it in a different way [07:38] mhm, let's have a chat at some point === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g [07:53] pete-woods, morning! did you have time to test the ppa? [07:53] Cimi: I'm just putting it on my phone now [07:53] pete-woods, thanks! [08:18] Cimi, I think we need some placeholder if there's no infographics on the greeter... it looks so bland otherwise :| [08:19] Saviq, I agree [08:19] Saviq, but I remember you saying the backend should give us one [08:19] did I? [08:19] not sure that's right... [08:19] yes but I am happy to ad a placeholder [08:19] so we don't clutter the model [08:20] with fake results [08:20] Cimi, yeah, talk to Jouni or someone - ideally show them why ;) [08:20] Cimi, mentioning bug #1286276 [08:20] bug 1286276 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Lock screen whines that "No data sources available" on first use" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1286276 [08:21] uh. logout is merged! yay [08:21] * mzanetti upgraded [08:21] -d +s [08:25] Saviq, yea, let's define it at some point... point closer to the end of the week though [08:25] pete-woods, fwiw, I just upgraded from silo 9, called the phone a few times, texted it, made some photos with the .deb camera app from the silo... no dice, welcome screen still empty :| [08:26] bah [08:26] mhr3, wait for it, mikenagle just asked me about having three dropdowns ;) [08:26] of course he did... [08:26] cause one top level navigation is never enough [08:27] mhr3, truth be told the original plan was, after all, to have two equal dropdowns [08:27] then you stripped it down to one single-level, one multi-level [08:28] which at least to me means more work ;P [08:28] cause we totally want scopes to deal with exponential explosion of ways things can be surfaced [08:28] saviq mhr3 - it's not my fault :) It's Timeout [08:28] mhr3, well now, it'd be the scope that decides wouldn't it [08:28] mhr3, on every request it'd supply 0-3 dropdowns [08:28] Saviq, making it buggy and reflecting bad on our platform [08:29] mhr3, sure, maybe, just saying [08:29] mikenagle, so yah, remember the left-hand-side one is single-level, no drilling down [08:30] saviq mhr3 - this i didn't know [08:30] yay for comms :| [08:30] Saviq: just got the stuff from the silo installed now, going to try and figure out why "real" data sources don't work [08:30] pete-woods, kk [08:30] mikenagle, didn't we talk about that? [08:31] mhr3 - not that I remember but that doesn't mean no :) [08:31] on malta actually [08:32] Saviq, anyway, i need uri mangling in previews to use the caching image provider [08:32] mhr3, mikenagle, it was probably a case of mhr3 asking "should we limit that to single level" and mikenagle you responded "yes!" thinking for this one case, when mhr3 wanted to know globally [08:33] Saviq, not something i'd like to do in the plugin, cause previews are just data exposed to shell without any semantics [08:33] mhr3, mangle how? [08:33] Saviq, http://foo.com/bar.png -> image://cached/u=http... [08:34] mhr3, think that's fine, why, though? [08:35] mhr3, why are previews special? [08:35] Saviq, as i said, it's just dicts of data without semantics for the plugin, it doesn't know which field should be mangled and which not [08:35] Saviq, we want to apply it just to images [08:36] mhr3, no, I mean why doesn't mangling in Image not good enough? [08:36] s/doesn't/isn't/ [08:36] Saviq, does u8 have it's own image? [08:36] Saviq, cause it can't be done in the sdk image [08:37] mhr3, huh? wasn't that the whole point? [08:37] Saviq: er, "works for me"? [08:37] just installed the camera app from the silo [08:37] pete-woods, interesting :| [08:37] took a picture [08:37] and it makes it all the way through to the greeter [08:37] I have no SIM card to test the telephony app, thoug [08:37] Saviq, ok, my bad forgot to update you, i was talking with florian who convinced me that trying to do it in the sdk is a bad idea [08:37] so that could be broken perhaps [08:37] pete-woods, /var/lib/usermetrics kinda empty here [08:38] Saviq: I'm really very confident about the actual backing service [08:38] pete-woods, you can install ofono-phonesim to pretend you have a SIM [08:38] it's most likely that the input API could have gone wrong [08:38] mhr3, so we don't get caching in apps? [08:38] Saviq, basically the api they're using for it isn't supported, nor documented and introduces problems with signals, so they're actually trying to get rid of it [08:38] BAAHA [08:38] Saviq, nope [08:39] mhr3, short-term I assume? [08:39] * pete-woods installs fake SIM package [08:39] mhr3, fine, we can be explicit about caching in shell for the time being [08:39] Saviq, yea, there is an old proposal how to do some kind of qml caching api [08:40] Saviq, think you even saw it at some point [08:40] so that would be the solution [08:40] long-term [08:41] pete-woods, FWIW http://paste.ubuntu.com/7699369/ [08:41] mhr3, I think *the* solution is to build default image provider support into Qt [08:42] * Saviq hates it how we don't consider real upstream solutions :| [08:42] Saviq, ok yea, but ultimately you want to be caching more than just images [08:42] so caching api still useful [08:42] mhr3, sure [08:43] mhr3, in that case we could just do the QNetworkFoo in the shell ;) [08:44] so Florian would get his way [08:44] pete-woods, anywhere I can look for some messages on what happens and why I'm not getting any infog? [08:44] Saviq, yea, what i implemented in the image provider is ultimately just that :/ [08:45] Saviq: so you should be seeing files in ~/.cache/APP_NAME/usermetrics [08:45] for both com.ubuntu.camera, and telephony-service [08:45] Saviq, it does allow us to cache resolution specific stuff though [08:45] which it isn't doing yet though [08:45] pete-woods, ok, rebooted and it's there [08:46] pete-woods, at least for camera [08:46] pete-woods, empty for telephony (the dir is there) [08:46] Saviq: I'm thinking there's something up with the telephony service here [08:46] yeah [08:46] * pete-woods trying to figure out why this is [08:46] pete-woods, kk [08:46] pete-woods, should a reboot have been necessary? [08:46] Saviq: can you test taking another picture? [08:47] it should the first time, or the new services won't be running [08:47] it starts the usermetrics (session) service on dbus start [08:47] pete-woods, well, yeah, I did reboot after upgrading [08:47] if there's a better activation for my upstart file then I'm very much all ears [08:47] Saviq: oh :( [08:48] how do I use this ofono-sim thing then? [08:48] * pete-woods googling for infos [08:48] pete-woods, it should Just Work™ for the most part [08:49] pete-woods, reboot might be needed [08:49] * pete-woods reboots again [08:49] I should see the signal strength indicator, right? [08:50] pete-woods, yeah [08:50] Saviq: do you know if that can be used to emulate SIM pin entry scenarios? [08:50] hmm, not getting that [08:50] mzanetti, if not, it should [08:50] pete-woods, ah stupid me, I got the camera app from .deb so no hook [08:50] heh. fair enough [08:51] pete-woods, but still nothing from telephony, anyway, I'll leave you to it and let me know if you need me to test something [08:55] pete-woods, to check out how to use it, you could probably look at messaging / dialer autopilot tests [08:55] pete-woods, also, there's a ofono-phonesim-autostart [08:55] that's a good idea [08:56] hmm, unpleasant looking dep list [08:56] dbus-x11 libfontenc1 libgl1-mesa-glx libxaw7 libxcb-dri3-0 libxcb-glx0 [08:56] libxcb-present0 libxfont1 libxkbfile1 libxmu6 libxmuu1 libxpm4 libxshmfence1 [08:56] x11-xkb-utils xauth xserver-common xvfb [08:57] * pete-woods worries about breaking GL [08:59] pete-woods, no need to worry [08:59] well I installed it anyway! :p [09:00] seems to have done the trick :) [09:00] hmm, dialer is not fooled, though [09:30] dednick, Cimi, heh, I was surprised to see that the settings app doesn't actually use ubuntu-settings-components ;P [09:33] Saviq, the code there was in place before u-s-c was ready to be used, and nobody "ported" it to it then, that would be nice to do though [09:33] seb128, mhm [09:38] Saviq: meh... [09:54] dednick, how is the indicator icon colour communicated? [09:55] Saviq: it's not. [09:56] dednick, so they just change the icon source? [09:56] Saviq: yep [09:56] dednick, kk [09:59] Saviq: could you kick a build for the silo? (I have two changes - one for libusermetrics and one for telephony-service) [09:59] but I've just pushed the libusermetrics one first [09:59] pete-woods, sure [09:59] so we don't get a depwait [09:59] pete-woods, push both, I'll just make sure to wait for lum to build first [10:00] pete-woods, I can control which packages build [10:00] Saviq: oh, cool, pushing now [10:00] okay, pushed [10:01] phew... almost thought my n4 was bricked [10:01] dednick, any idea why "icon:" is empty in indicators-client? [10:06] Saviq: probably using "icons" [10:06] dednick, ah, so we need to print that out, too [10:06] dednick, ktx [10:07] Saviq: it's in the actionState.icons field. [10:08] the "icons:" is for menu item. doesnt change. [10:09] dednick, for menu item? I'm about the icons in the panel, though, does that apply? [10:11] Saviq: yeah, it still has a menu item for the panel entry, but the widgets use the action for the menu to display info [10:11] dednick, ok, so the model printer doesn't print it out [10:11] Saviq: nope. [10:13] Saviq: let me have a think about how to do it. [10:13] dednick, don't worry [10:15] Saviq: hm. it would be useful though. not sure why it isn't working properly now. [10:16] dednick, latersz [10:17] Saviq: ok. think it probably just can't convert the icon variant type without the fancy shizzle i have to do for the root items. [10:17] sort out later. [10:34] Saviq: you know where ubuntu-app-launch application logs go? [10:35] dednick, ~/.cache/upstart/application-{click,legacy}-foo [10:35] Saviq: ta [11:11] pete-woods, kicked telephony-service === _salem is now known as salem_ [11:15] mzanetti, hey, what's the status on the header? [11:15] Holas [11:16] Saviq: timp is done with the api changes, was blocked on CI to land those yesterday [11:16] Saviq: other that that, I don't think there will be big issues still. was working fine with the old api already [11:16] Saviq: have swipe to close implemented on top of QtComp now [11:16] mzanetti, ok great [11:16] Saviq: will move back to the header now [11:16] mzanetti, tkx [11:17] facundobatista: o/ [11:17] hola mzanetti :) [11:18] facundobatista: does the scopetool work for you now? [11:19] mzanetti, the unity-scope-tool or the tool to check all the possible widgets configs? [11:19] ah right... it was the cardtool [11:19] well, all those tools we tried to get running in Malta [11:23] Saviq, could you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/caching-image-provider/+merge/224415 ? === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:23] mhr3, will do [11:23] mhr3, tested that it actually helps? ;) [11:24] Saviq, it does if the server is setup correctly... ours aren't but it's being fixed [11:24] mhr3, kk [11:26] Saviq, wonder if the results themselves should be mangled by the shell itself or the plugin [11:27] Saviq, i did it in the plugin atm, but maybe it would be cleaner in shell? [11:27] mhr3, shell better [11:27] mhr3, otherwise you're dead if you use the scopes plugin without the cacher [11:28] Saviq, true, then feel free to use as a quick test, but that's it https://code.launchpad.net/~mhr3/unity-scopes-shell/use-caching-image-provider/+merge/224418 [11:28] use ^^ [11:28] mhr3, kk [11:29] Hello, anyone can give me a clue? I've asked here at April but until this June I have no idea at all. http://askubuntu.com/questions/447587/alt-key-for-hud-doesnt-work [11:39] unity8 crashes on my desktop when i start it from terminal, why is that so ? [11:39] I need to write some tests so need help there. [11:41] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7699992/ [11:41] Saviq, oh and btw arrows work fine here with scope-tool... but you already know that now :) [11:42] mhr3, yup ;) [11:42] mhr3, I just wonder how facundobatista ended up without the package [11:43] ah, uitk doesn't depend on it [11:43] doesn't seem to be a direct dep [11:44] Saviq, mhr3, I answered the mail... with that package, all see the ">" ok :) [11:44] it was unity8's, I was sure UITK took over [11:44] facundobatista, yup, cool [11:44] thank you! [11:48] /food [11:54] hey. is there a way to see a list of currently active indicators. I'm looking for a way to identify the chrome notification indicator and a way to block it from appearing. [11:57] dakira: doesn't chrome have a setting to disable the indicator? [11:57] larsu: only in the win and mac version. [11:58] larsu: which is probably a bug [11:59] dakira: crazy. I don't think there's a way to block specific application indicators === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:27] larsu: too bad. there should be. I think this will become more and more of a problem, apps poluting the notification area with their unneccessary indicators. [12:34] dakira: I agree. We should even have UI for this. === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:13] mzanetti, how can I add an icon to the launcher programatically ? [13:13] om26er: you can't [13:13] mzanetti, hmm, any to add it hackishly ? [13:13] *way [13:14] mzanetti, I have to add a test for the launcher where we make sure pulling the launcher out and tapping on it opens an app [13:14] I don't want to rely on stock apps, I would rather create a dummy app and put its icon in the launcher during my test [13:15] om26er: yes, you can in that case [13:15] om26er: use this to see current config: [13:15] gdbus call --system --dest org.freedesktop.Accounts --object-path /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User32011 --method org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Get com.canonical.unity.AccountsService launcher-items [13:15] om26er: use this to reset to default config (being read from dconf): [13:15] gdbus call --system --dest org.freedesktop.Accounts --object-path /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User32011 --method org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Set com.canonical.unity.AccountsService launcher-items "<[{'defaults' : }]>" [13:16] om26er: change that last argument to contain whatever items you want [13:16] see output from the Get call on syntax === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:24] mzanetti, lets say I want to add camera-app to the launcher, how do I do that in this syntax ? [13:25] om26er: you drag the launcher on the phone how you like it, then call the Get method above [13:25] om26er: then you copy, paste the output into the last parameter of the Set call [13:28] greyback, jenkins is confused because you renamed "devel" to "devel-mir-next" [13:29] greyback, and jenkins somehow still wants devel... [13:29] greyback, ah well, because it's "unity-mir-devel-autolanding" [13:30] Saviq: wasn't me who renamed, but ok, need CI person to update jenkins [13:30] greyback, looks like the job got confused, yeah [13:30] greyback, it was the general "you" [13:30] greyback, but in any case... this MP has nothing to do with devel (or devel-mir-next), so there's basically some bug in the job [13:30] right [13:34] Saviq: okay, those changes fixed the telephony app now [13:34] pete-woods, cool beanz [13:34] pete-woods, any way I can convince the .deb camera to work, too? [13:35] Saviq: for me the .deb camera app "just worked" [13:35] I just installed it from the silo [13:35] pete-woods, hmm interesting [13:35] pete-woods, ok, will try again in a bit [13:39] mterry: mterry_: could you do me a favor and review this: https://code.launchpad.net/~albaguirre/unity-system-compositor/screen-power-state-handling/+merge/213957 [13:39] AlbertA, just looking at that now actually === mterry_ is now known as mterry [13:39] mterry: oh cool...thanks! === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [13:51] dednick, minor thing https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/ubuntu-settings-components/suru-theme/+merge/220739/comments/538883 === olli_ is now known as olli === artmello_ is now known as artmello [14:03] Saviq, Cimi, https://code.launchpad.net/~paulliu/unity8/lp1330957/+merge/223779 [14:04] otp, Cimi can you review please === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [14:07] Saviq, branch is fine, do we want to add the margin on the case without mascot, art? [14:07] Cimi, I don't think so [14:08] otp [14:09] Saviq: rightLabel? [14:13] what issue in settings? [14:15] dednick, huge icon in Languages [14:16] dednick, because they're using the standard menu from SDK which doesn't cope well with the new icons [14:16] Saviq: and rightLabel would help why? [14:17] dednick, because they have two labels there, and the StandardMenu you added does cope well with the new icons :) [14:18] Saviq: i c [14:19] Saviq: give me a minute. i will investigate what i can do. [14:19] dednick, sure ;) [14:23] mterry: thanks for the review [14:23] mterry: about powerd service watcher [14:24] mterry: the dbus messages will be send to whatever owner happens to be the owner of that interface [14:24] mterry: the reason for the watcher initially is for initializing the default brightness parameters [14:24] AlbertA, but we don't want to re-init those? [14:25] mterry: I thought about it, but it would be ill defined...as we also get the default brightness which may have been changed [14:25] mterry: by the user already [14:26] mterry: but I guess I could change it so it always does [14:26] listen to it [14:27] AlbertA, whatever makes sense. I just didn't want that possibility to be overlooked === deegee__ is now known as drussell === shiznix_ is now known as shiznix [14:47] mterry: ok I've changed it.... [14:48] mterry: as for the power-off-delay option...the branch for the touch-session can come in a separate landing right? [14:48] AlbertA, I would have thought it would abort() on an unknown argument -- Mir likes to do that [14:48] AlbertA, but apparently it doesn't... [14:49] AlbertA, it can come separately I guess yah [15:01] mzanetti, thanks for the tip, it works but changes only take place on restarting unity [15:01] any other way to make them effective or is restart the only way [15:03] om26er: atm restarting is the only way === zequence_ is now known as zequence [15:20] mterry: so can I get your approval with the usc mp? [15:22] AlbertA, k [15:28] mhr3, I chatted with mikenagle earlier, any objection to removing fill-mode from the toolkit (and doing a private hack for the app icons, which we need anyway)? [15:28] Saviq, nope, hack away! [15:29] it's really getting rid of hack, so i'm happy [15:29] mhr3, indeed, and people are abusing/confused by it [15:29] we'll need to update docs though [15:29] let's do it together with scope customs [15:30] we'll still need to find a way to impl it for apps [15:30] Saviq, implement a special renderer for them? [15:31] well... yea... no [15:31] mhr3, no, not really, just add a private hack [15:31] mhr3, that we'll have in the shell, but not expose to scopes [15:31] Saviq, anyway, speaking about customizations, i suppose you wanted the same merge with defaults, so the variant map isn't empty thing that we're doing for categories? [15:32] mhr3, you're talking the global ones? [15:32] Saviq, yea [15:32] mhr3, they were mostly null by default, weren't they? [15:32] Saviq, so if scope doesn't define any customizations, you're fine with having empty variant map? [15:33] mhr3, only "background-color" is non-null [15:33] mhr3, but it might just as well be [15:33] mhr3, yeah, empty is fine [15:33] ah, good, i thought i'd have to change things :) === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [15:48] mterry, I've also added a quick side-by-side comparison video to LP: #1331551 ... now we just need a pair of eyes from Design to confirm the invalid status of said bug. [15:48] Launchpad bug 1331551 in unity-system-compositor (Ubuntu) "Some design fixes for boot animation spinner" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1331551 [15:49] MacSlow, cool. Maybe they wanted the logo to be bigger on n10 instead of same size? I dunno === salem_ is now known as _salem [15:50] mterry, we'll have to see what jouni & Co provide as feedback [15:52] Saviq, do we have a proposed fix for the tst_Shell.qml qmluitest crash? [16:07] can I get a quick review please? [16:07] https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/unity8/flake8/+merge/223495 [16:07] mterry: Cimi: I can't log bugs for welcome wizard (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-welcome-wizard) [16:08] greyback, it's part of ubuntu-system-settings [16:08] mterry: ah ok [16:09] Cimi: could you edit https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-welcome-wizard to say it now is part of ubuntu-system-settings? Or delete the project entirely? [16:09] greyback, will keep if if we decide to split [16:10] greyback, but will edit it accordingly [16:10] Cimi: thanks === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch [16:25] Saviq: re my question about qml focus events earlier: what component receives the app focus event? === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox [16:31] Saviq: still around? [16:31] dednick: what do you mean with "the app focus event"? [16:31] dednick: if you focus an app, where the focus ends up inside the app? [16:33] mzanetti: i mean that a qml application is focused. [16:33] mzanetti: i think it's "Qt.application.active" [16:34] dednick: hmm... if that's inside an app, yes, probably [16:34] dednick: if you need the information inside unity, you probably want to import Unity.Application [16:34] and get the focusedApplication [16:35] mzanetti: it's inside the app. thanks. [16:37] hey, has anyone tried profiling unity8 on the device via QtCreator? I'm getting stuck setting my touch device up in QtC, if I use my ssh key it fails with "SSH connection failure: Decoding of private key file failed: Format not understood." [16:38] strange [16:38] greyback: right... I think I know what happened [16:38] greyback: SDK people moved the ssh key to ~/.config/ubuntu-sdk/ [16:39] greyback: in order to not mess with the user's ssh keys any more [16:39] greyback: however, I assume that's ubuntu specific stuff not understood by whole QtCreator [16:39] greyback: so you probably want ot deploy one of your keys in ~/.ssh too [16:40] mzanetti: it's strange, if I manually ssh in, my usual id_rsa key works fine. But QtC fails [16:40] greyback: try setting the device up in qtc's settings as generic linux device [16:40] mzanetti: that's what I'm donig actually [16:41] hmm, ok [16:41] running out of ideas here [16:41] yeah. I'm a bit miffed [16:42] I'll try making a new keypair and use that === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD === dpm is now known as dpm-afk === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem === _salem is now known as salem_ === dpm-afk is now known as dpm === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader [19:03] mhall119: hey you gotta minute to hop on a hangout ? [19:08] kgunn: sure, got a URL? [19:09] mhall119: 2 secs [19:10] mhall119: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/g3jfv4rdr4rxlffdbi5jpy6ebqa [19:12] tedg: dude is like scarey tornado looking where you are? my sky just went black [19:12] kgunn: says the party is over :( [19:14] mhall119: lets try this one https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/g7by2uijbii637kuyplmyck7baa [19:14] * mhall119 hopes kgunn's weather didn't end the party prematurely [19:14] just me & toto [19:14] kgunn: same thing... [19:16] kgunn: can you join https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/g7heukxf2v22yrxz5esergeczqa?hl=en ? [19:23] kgunn, Not yet, but not looking good. [19:23] kgunn, Have to drive to Plano to pick up the kid from hockey camp in a bit too… [19:24] stay safe [19:26] kgunn, Not sure whether I should be more worried about the clouds or Texas drivers in the rain :-) [19:27] tx drivers obviously [19:38] mterry, no, Albert was digging into it but didn't get much anywhere yet [19:38] mzanetti, back now === dpm is now known as dpm-afk === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [22:02] karni, hey, I'm still around [22:03] karni, does `url-dispatcher http://foo/` work on the console (you might need to install url-dispatcher-tools) [22:07] Saviq: hi [22:07] let me try [22:08] Saviq: ** (process:4135): WARNING **: Unable to dispatch url 'http://google.com':GDBus.Error:com.canonical.URLDispatcher.BadURL: URL 'http://google.com' is not handleable by the URL Dispatcher [22:09] karni, works here, anything you could upgrade? [22:09] tedg, any pointers for karni ↑? [22:09] Saviq: you mean, a utopic-proposed has been updated since.. let me think.. I think I flashed it morning of Wednesday [22:10] karni, so yesterday morning? [22:10] it's r96 [22:10] what you're testing on? [22:10] * Saviq on r97 [22:10] let me see if I downgrade to 96 if that changes anything [22:10] f... well, let me test connectivity in this hotel [22:10] Saviq: thanks, that may actually be faster :( [22:11] looks like 10Mbps, not that bad [22:12] Saviq: I've been using dual boot (humpolec) for a while now, and I have the demo in 10 hours. let me refresh my memory here: ubuntu-device-flash --channel=utopic-proposed is the command? [22:12] karni, I'm dual-booting too [22:13] Saviq: so.. ubuntu-device-flash flashes recovery by default? how do you install older revision with humpolec? [22:13] karni, that's why I want to check - don't flash without me verifying that that'll fix anything [22:13] Saviq: ok :) [22:13] * karni waits [22:15] karni, the changes between 96 and 97 don't suggest anything good :| [22:15] http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/97.changes [22:16] karni, btw, you know you can side-load images from your laptop with humpolec? so that you don't download them on the device all the time? [22:16] Saviq: I'll be honest, I'm not sure what's that supposed to tell me :( === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [22:17] karni, it's supposed to tell you nothing related to url-dispatcher landed in image 97, so it's not really likely that this will help :| [22:17] aha :/ [22:17] but let's see, maybe the session [22:17] Saviq: but you said url dispatcher works for you in r97? [22:17] karni, yeah, just flashing r96 to check if it doesn't there [22:17] thanks [22:18] but really unlikely :| [22:19] Saviq: I can bootstrap, wipe hope, whatever. I mean, if it's working for you, I can really flash. whatever makes it work. [22:20] karni, yeah, that's what I think will need to happen, your device might've gotten confused somehow [22:20] karni, but let's see first, almost there [22:20] okay, thanks Saviq, I appreciate your help [22:20] (again, this week) [22:20] karni, nw, sorry for yanking stuff from under your feet ;) [22:21]