/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/06/25/#ubuntu-us-mi.txt

brousch__Stupid FedEx. They call to tell me my package will be delivered tomorrow and requires a signature, but I won't be home. their online system to reroute the package is "unavailable right now"01:39
cmaloneybrousch__: welcome02:32
greg-g"Lettuce turnip the beet"06:30
rick_h_morning11:16
cmaloneyGood morning11:20
rick_h_everyone ready for existing stuff that won't actually get out into the world day?11:21
rick_h_although I guess the Q did make it out alive after all http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories-headphones-speakers/Moto-Stream/moto-stream.html11:22
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/bp9J01 - Moto Stream by Motorola - A Google Company11:22
cmaloneyYeah, that's exactly what I need. :)11:35
cmaloneyNow it needs to be about half that much. :)11:36
mrgoodcatmorning12:18
cmaloneyGiid nirbubg12:18
cmaloneyis what I type when my fingers get off-center.12:18
rick_h_lol12:21
cmaloney.np squeekyhoho12:32
bookiebotsqueekyhoho's current track - True Hallucination Speak by Cynic on Kindly Bent to Free Us12:32
cmaloneyqq: What am I missing here: datetime.datetime.strptime("%Y-%m-%d", (datetime.datetime.strftime(datetime.date.today(), "%Y-%m-23")))12:59
cmaloneytime data '%Y-%m-%d' does not match format '2014-06-23'12:59
rick_h_cmaloney: your args are backwards13:10
rick_h_datetime.strptime(start_date[0], '%Y-%m-%d')13:10
rick_h_is what I have in Bookie13:11
cmaloneymoron alert.13:11
cmaloneyYeah.13:11
cmaloneyJust looked at the error message more clearly13:11
cmaloneytx13:12
rick_h_bah, worst coffee shop discussions ever!13:18
cmaloneyrick_h_: Worse than the ones at Bean and Leaf13:21
cmaloney?13:21
rick_h_cmaloney: yes, on one side there's some local political drama and they're trying to figure out who said what to who when and what the fallout is going to be and so on13:21
rick_h_on my other side there's a religious discussion about how "it takes a lot of trust to open oneself to the holy ghost and have man get out of god's plan for man"13:21
rick_h_and the noise cancelling headphones are helping to dull the drum of the machines, but then frees up the talking to be heard better13:22
cmaloneyrick_h_: Oh God, that has to be hell.13:22
rick_h_time to turn the music up a bit louder13:23
rick_h_hearing loss be damn :)13:23
cmaloneyheh13:26
cmaloneyNever mix religion and politics unless there's a driving beat13:27
cmaloney.np squeekyhoho13:28
bookiebotsqueekyhoho's current track - Light by KMFDM on Angst13:28
mrgoodcatrick_h_: burn jesus into your toast and make a big scene13:35
jrwrencmaloney: trick question!  you are missing "from datetime import datetime" so that you can write datetime.date.today()13:44
jrwrencmaloney: also: "{:%Y-%m-%d}".format(datetime.now())13:45
jrwrenoh, parse time, nevermind13:45
jrwrencmaloney: can you pip install timelib?13:46
cmaloneyjrwren: All I want is current month / year with 23 as the date.13:46
cmaloneySo not sure what that would get me. :)13:46
jrwrentimelib.parse('two days ago')13:47
jrwrendone13:47
jrwren:p13:47
rick_h_lol cheater13:47
cmaloneyjrwren: Oh that would be awesome.13:47
jrwreni winder of "the twentythird" or "the 23rd" would work13:47
* jrwren tries13:47
cmaloneyplease to be telling me how to do that for the rest of the month. ;)13:48
jrwrenI love timelib13:48
* cmaloney pops the popcorn13:48
jrwrenrest of month: while true; do sleep 1day ; timelib.parse('two days ago')  ; done13:48
jrwrenyes, I just mixed bash and python. I'm crazy.13:48
jrwrencmaloney: so you want the day of the 23rd of the current month, right?13:50
cmaloneyYes13:51
jrwren_23rd = date(date.today().year, date.today().month, 23)13:55
cmaloneyjrwren: Ah, that may be a better way to do this without the string step14:07
jrwreni like strong types.14:08
cmaloneyYeah, me too.14:08
jrwrenjust cuz python doesn't statically bind them, doesn't mean I can't try :)14:08
cmaloneyWhich is why this didn't sit well with me14:09
rick_h_bah, guess I won't be signing up after all http://r.bmark.us/u/d05de6655acb3214:24
cmaloneyThat's utter bullshit14:31
cmaloneyJust hte same though I hope more television stations would broadcast their over-the-air signals online14:34
cmaloneyand more content providers make their shows available online14:34
cmaloneyah well.14:35
krondorwhat a bad decision.  Reading their statement, they basically ignored aero's use of individually assigning antennas one to one to users15:15
krondorbasically saying even though the stream and reception is one to one it's still a 'public' performance15:15
rick_h_yea, but it was 6-3 and not just even party lines BS.15:21
rick_h_oh well, feel bad for them, cool idea and cool product15:21
rick_h_I know of several happy user15:21
krondorwell fox donations do span party lines :) joking.. I don't really think it was influenced.15:21
krondorI just think it was short sighted.. The dissenting opinion makes more sense to me (obviously biased)15:22
krondorthere's a part at the end that they don't think this ruling will discourage future technologies15:23
krondorI think I can conceive of ways a one to one transmission/reception being considered public performance would discourage innovations15:23
mrgoodcatExecutives at Fox and CBS had suggested that they might stop broadcasting over the air if they lost.15:25
mrgoodcattextbook strongarming15:25
krondormrgoodcat:  of course they did, why not... worst case you bluffed and got called best case it worked.15:27
krondoreven if broadcast syndication isn't the cash cow it once was, I doubt they'd pull out and let NBC eat their lunch15:28
krondorit looks like a big part of the decision was the fact that Aereo owns the warehouse with the antennas.15:31
krondorperhaps if they actually leased the antenna space to customers, instead of renting them use it might have changed the picture15:31
krondorthat seems like a legal nightmare to draft up though15:31
rick_h_hah, "I pay rent for 2 square inches of real estate in a building in detroit"15:32
cmaloneyyeah, I see this as a smackdown of Aero's specific case15:32
cmaloneyrick_h_: Stranger things have happened.15:32
cmaloneyI could totally see them running with that15:32
cmaloneyyour subscription is a lease of a dime-shaped area of land and an internet connection15:33
mrgoodcatand you pay "rent"15:33
cmaloneyWhat's ridiculous though is the machinations that Aero had to do to even get this smackdown15:33
mrgoodcatyea lots of money involved15:34
mrgoodcatand tons of tiny little antennas15:34
cmaloneyHonestly the FCC should regard broadcast signals a Public Domain15:34
cmaloneyAnd have them try to encrypt their signals.15:34
cmaloneyI find it pretty pathetic that over the years we've ceeded control of the airwaves and control of the public domain to corporate interests15:39
cmaloneyand with this decision we've cemented even more control15:40
cmaloneyhttp://www.lataco.com/taco/they-live-tribute-art15:41
cmaloney^ appropriate15:41
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/txbDD2 - "They Live" Live in Downtown Los Angeles ยป L.A. TACO | L.A. TACO15:41
widoxhah, cmaloney that's awesome16:28
widoxforgot about that movie - worth watching16:28
mrgoodcathttp://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/13-132_8l9c.pdf16:39
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/hyLuor - application/pdf16:39
mrgoodcatbetter news from the supreme court16:40
cmaloneyYeah, that's something I can get behind. :)16:43
greg-gtoo much SCOTUS today16:46
rick_h_greg-g: heh, they have a good marketing dept16:46
cmaloneygreg-g: Blame them for pinching off all of their decisions once a quarter.16:46
rick_h_greg-g: and so much tech going to the highest court shows we don't understand the rules any more16:46
greg-g:)16:46
mrgoodcatanybody watching Google I/O?17:48
greg-gno17:48
greg-gI don't watch those kinds of things17:48
rick_h_mrgoodcat: yea17:48
rick_h_it's my chance to play apple fanboi17:49
greg-gwhiz bang announcements are just a fun circus, wake me in 2 months to see if anything actually interesting comes of it17:49
rick_h_greg-g: +1 this one is really a lot of 'later this summer' and 'later this year'. I seem to recall it being much more 'now' before17:49
cmaloneyrick_h_: yeah.17:49
* greg-g nods17:50
cmaloneyPlus right now it's all ego stroking.17:50
greg-galso, I'm a mega cynic lately, so, take what I say in that context17:50
rick_h_cmaloney: got meeting moved, 6pm dinner?17:50
cmaloneyrick_h_: Would love yo17:50
rick_h_greg-g: it's ok, we all need our anchor :)17:50
cmaloneyto17:50
cmaloneyMan, I'm just Mr. Typo today.17:50
rick_h_cmaloney: k, meet there?17:50
cmaloneyOh geez, the rube goldberg machine at the beginning is humorous.17:57
mrgoodcatrick_h_: anything interesting?18:05
mrgoodcati can't watch at work18:05
mrgoodcatwell i could. but i'm busy today beyond reason18:05
jrwrenmrgoodcat: i'm watching.18:11
jrwrenrick_h_: you play apple fanboi watching IO ?18:11
rick_h_jrwren: I act like one by s/apple/google18:13
jrwrenah, same here.18:13
jrwreni'm not a google fan boi but I am when I watch google IO18:13
cmaloneySame here.18:13
cmaloneyOK, one out of two packages from Amazon delivered.18:14
mrgoodcatdoes that mean nothing interesting so far?18:21
jrwreni had to step out for a meeting.18:28
jrwrenI thought all the L api stuff was interesting.18:28
rick_h_I wish they'd just give it a name and stop with the L18:29
rick_h_the L stuff is cool, but some of it was stuff that I've had in the motox18:29
rick_h_the car stuff will be cool, but not something I'll be able to get my hands on for years18:30
rick_h_The chromecast stuff is probably the only thing I'll get/see any time soon18:30
jrwrensame here.18:30
jrwreni missed the entire chromecast part :(18:30
rick_h_they've built screening into it. You can replicate your entire device on the tv18:31
jrwrenYAY!18:31
rick_h_showed off using google earth on the phone, and having the display mirroed on the tv18:31
rick_h_to show his wife where hawaii was18:31
rick_h_err, his daughter18:31
jrwrenlol.18:31
rick_h_so that's cool to be able to just mirror the screen18:31
rick_h_without wires18:31
rick_h_bye bye dvd cable18:31
jrwrenios has had that for 3yrs18:32
jrwreni'm glad someone else has it now too18:32
rick_h_hopefully that means we can show a movie from my tablet to the tv without an internet connection18:32
rick_h_we'll see18:32
mrgoodcatits always like that18:32
mrgoodcat[insert device] has had this feature for [number] years18:32
jrwrenmrgoodcat: yeah.18:33
jrwreni'm glad we have all this competition18:33
mrgoodcatapple and google stay pretty competitive in terms of features18:33
mrgoodcatthey usually each have a couple things the other doesnt have, but the other always eventually gets it18:34
rick_h_I think that what it was is that it's all android. Google's IO didn't have the big picture stuff of the home automation, super chrome coolness, glass/etc stuff. It was basically android and tools for android devs.18:58
mrgoodcatyou see the new gmail api?19:09
mrgoodcatapps will be able to access the contents of your emails...19:10
cmaloneyThat's cool and scary at the same time19:16
mrgoodcati'm sure there will be some cool functionality19:26
mrgoodcatand there has to be some protection, like apps won't be able to see the full text or something like that... not really sure19:26
mrgoodcati didn't read much about it19:26
jrwrenrick_h_: and app engine dev.19:27
jrwrenit wasn't exciting for the masses, but I thought the dataflow announcement was pretty powerful19:27
jrwrenwait... chromebook runs android apps now?!?!  that is rather huge19:41
cmaloney.np squeekyhoho19:47
bookiebotsqueekyhoho's current track - Circles Of Defeat by Colosso on Foregone Semblances19:47
mrgoodcathttp://www.omgchrome.com/vlc-chromecast-support-coming-android-ios-desktop/20:01
bookiebothttp://goo.gl/LwSDIx - 403 Forbidden20:01
mrgoodcatthis is pretty cool too20:01
jrwrenyay VLC!20:16
krondori need to look into the google fit and apple healthkit stuff more20:25
krondorwhere's the home automation announcements or was it only the nest works stuff from yesterday?20:30
rick_h_krondor: yea, just the stuff from yesterday20:47
rick_h_no news on that front20:47

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