[01:39] <brousch__> Stupid FedEx. They call to tell me my package will be delivered tomorrow and requires a signature, but I won't be home. their online system to reroute the package is "unavailable right now"
[02:32] <cmaloney> brousch__: welcome
[06:30] <greg-g> "Lettuce turnip the beet"
[11:16] <rick_h_> morning
[11:20] <cmaloney> Good morning
[11:21] <rick_h_> everyone ready for existing stuff that won't actually get out into the world day?
[11:22] <rick_h_> although I guess the Q did make it out alive after all http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories-headphones-speakers/Moto-Stream/moto-stream.html
[11:22] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/bp9J01 - Moto Stream by Motorola - A Google Company
[11:35] <cmaloney> Yeah, that's exactly what I need. :)
[11:36] <cmaloney> Now it needs to be about half that much. :)
[12:18] <mrgoodcat> morning
[12:18] <cmaloney> Giid nirbubg
[12:18] <cmaloney> is what I type when my fingers get off-center.
[12:21] <rick_h_> lol
[12:32] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoho
[12:32] <bookiebot> squeekyhoho's current track - True Hallucination Speak by Cynic on Kindly Bent to Free Us
[12:59] <cmaloney> qq: What am I missing here: datetime.datetime.strptime("%Y-%m-%d", (datetime.datetime.strftime(datetime.date.today(), "%Y-%m-23")))
[12:59] <cmaloney> time data '%Y-%m-%d' does not match format '2014-06-23'
[13:10] <rick_h_> cmaloney: your args are backwards
[13:10] <rick_h_> datetime.strptime(start_date[0], '%Y-%m-%d')
[13:11] <rick_h_> is what I have in Bookie
[13:11] <cmaloney> moron alert.
[13:11] <cmaloney> Yeah.
[13:11] <cmaloney> Just looked at the error message more clearly
[13:12] <cmaloney> tx
[13:18] <rick_h_> bah, worst coffee shop discussions ever!
[13:21] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Worse than the ones at Bean and Leaf
[13:21] <cmaloney> ?
[13:21] <rick_h_> cmaloney: yes, on one side there's some local political drama and they're trying to figure out who said what to who when and what the fallout is going to be and so on
[13:21] <rick_h_> on my other side there's a religious discussion about how "it takes a lot of trust to open oneself to the holy ghost and have man get out of god's plan for man"
[13:22] <rick_h_> and the noise cancelling headphones are helping to dull the drum of the machines, but then frees up the talking to be heard better
[13:22] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Oh God, that has to be hell.
[13:23] <rick_h_> time to turn the music up a bit louder
[13:23] <rick_h_> hearing loss be damn :)
[13:26] <cmaloney> heh
[13:27] <cmaloney> Never mix religion and politics unless there's a driving beat
[13:28] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoho
[13:28] <bookiebot> squeekyhoho's current track - Light by KMFDM on Angst
[13:35] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: burn jesus into your toast and make a big scene
[13:44] <jrwren> cmaloney: trick question!  you are missing "from datetime import datetime" so that you can write datetime.date.today()
[13:45] <jrwren> cmaloney: also: "{:%Y-%m-%d}".format(datetime.now())
[13:45] <jrwren> oh, parse time, nevermind
[13:46] <jrwren> cmaloney: can you pip install timelib?
[13:46] <cmaloney> jrwren: All I want is current month / year with 23 as the date.
[13:46] <cmaloney> So not sure what that would get me. :)
[13:47] <jrwren> timelib.parse('two days ago')
[13:47] <jrwren> done
[13:47] <jrwren> :p
[13:47] <rick_h_> lol cheater
[13:47] <cmaloney> jrwren: Oh that would be awesome.
[13:47] <jrwren> i winder of "the twentythird" or "the 23rd" would work
[13:47]  * jrwren tries
[13:48] <cmaloney> please to be telling me how to do that for the rest of the month. ;)
[13:48] <jrwren> I love timelib
[13:48]  * cmaloney pops the popcorn
[13:48] <jrwren> rest of month: while true; do sleep 1day ; timelib.parse('two days ago')  ; done
[13:48] <jrwren> yes, I just mixed bash and python. I'm crazy.
[13:50] <jrwren> cmaloney: so you want the day of the 23rd of the current month, right?
[13:51] <cmaloney> Yes
[13:55] <jrwren> _23rd = date(date.today().year, date.today().month, 23)
[14:07] <cmaloney> jrwren: Ah, that may be a better way to do this without the string step
[14:08] <jrwren> i like strong types.
[14:08] <cmaloney> Yeah, me too.
[14:08] <jrwren> just cuz python doesn't statically bind them, doesn't mean I can't try :)
[14:09] <cmaloney> Which is why this didn't sit well with me
[14:24] <rick_h_> bah, guess I won't be signing up after all http://r.bmark.us/u/d05de6655acb32
[14:31] <cmaloney> That's utter bullshit
[14:34] <cmaloney> Just hte same though I hope more television stations would broadcast their over-the-air signals online
[14:34] <cmaloney> and more content providers make their shows available online
[14:35] <cmaloney> ah well.
[15:15] <krondor> what a bad decision.  Reading their statement, they basically ignored aero's use of individually assigning antennas one to one to users
[15:15] <krondor> basically saying even though the stream and reception is one to one it's still a 'public' performance
[15:21] <rick_h_> yea, but it was 6-3 and not just even party lines BS.
[15:21] <rick_h_> oh well, feel bad for them, cool idea and cool product
[15:21] <rick_h_> I know of several happy user
[15:21] <krondor> well fox donations do span party lines :) joking.. I don't really think it was influenced.
[15:22] <krondor> I just think it was short sighted.. The dissenting opinion makes more sense to me (obviously biased)
[15:23] <krondor> there's a part at the end that they don't think this ruling will discourage future technologies
[15:23] <krondor> I think I can conceive of ways a one to one transmission/reception being considered public performance would discourage innovations
[15:25] <mrgoodcat> Executives at Fox and CBS had suggested that they might stop broadcasting over the air if they lost.
[15:25] <mrgoodcat> textbook strongarming
[15:27] <krondor> mrgoodcat:  of course they did, why not... worst case you bluffed and got called best case it worked.
[15:28] <krondor> even if broadcast syndication isn't the cash cow it once was, I doubt they'd pull out and let NBC eat their lunch
[15:31] <krondor> it looks like a big part of the decision was the fact that Aereo owns the warehouse with the antennas.
[15:31] <krondor> perhaps if they actually leased the antenna space to customers, instead of renting them use it might have changed the picture
[15:31] <krondor> that seems like a legal nightmare to draft up though
[15:32] <rick_h_> hah, "I pay rent for 2 square inches of real estate in a building in detroit"
[15:32] <cmaloney> yeah, I see this as a smackdown of Aero's specific case
[15:32] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Stranger things have happened.
[15:32] <cmaloney> I could totally see them running with that
[15:33] <cmaloney> your subscription is a lease of a dime-shaped area of land and an internet connection
[15:33] <mrgoodcat> and you pay "rent"
[15:33] <cmaloney> What's ridiculous though is the machinations that Aero had to do to even get this smackdown
[15:34] <mrgoodcat> yea lots of money involved
[15:34] <mrgoodcat> and tons of tiny little antennas
[15:34] <cmaloney> Honestly the FCC should regard broadcast signals a Public Domain
[15:34] <cmaloney> And have them try to encrypt their signals.
[15:39] <cmaloney> I find it pretty pathetic that over the years we've ceeded control of the airwaves and control of the public domain to corporate interests
[15:40] <cmaloney> and with this decision we've cemented even more control
[15:41] <cmaloney> http://www.lataco.com/taco/they-live-tribute-art
[15:41] <cmaloney> ^ appropriate
[15:41] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/txbDD2 - "They Live" Live in Downtown Los Angeles » L.A. TACO | L.A. TACO
[16:28] <widox> hah, cmaloney that's awesome
[16:28] <widox> forgot about that movie - worth watching
[16:39] <mrgoodcat> http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/13-132_8l9c.pdf
[16:39] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/hyLuor - application/pdf
[16:40] <mrgoodcat> better news from the supreme court
[16:43] <cmaloney> Yeah, that's something I can get behind. :)
[16:46] <greg-g> too much SCOTUS today
[16:46] <rick_h_> greg-g: heh, they have a good marketing dept
[16:46] <cmaloney> greg-g: Blame them for pinching off all of their decisions once a quarter.
[16:46] <rick_h_> greg-g: and so much tech going to the highest court shows we don't understand the rules any more
[16:46] <greg-g> :)
[17:48] <mrgoodcat> anybody watching Google I/O?
[17:48] <greg-g> no
[17:48] <greg-g> I don't watch those kinds of things
[17:48] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: yea
[17:49] <rick_h_> it's my chance to play apple fanboi
[17:49] <greg-g> whiz bang announcements are just a fun circus, wake me in 2 months to see if anything actually interesting comes of it
[17:49] <rick_h_> greg-g: +1 this one is really a lot of 'later this summer' and 'later this year'. I seem to recall it being much more 'now' before
[17:49] <cmaloney> rick_h_: yeah.
[17:50]  * greg-g nods
[17:50] <cmaloney> Plus right now it's all ego stroking.
[17:50] <greg-g> also, I'm a mega cynic lately, so, take what I say in that context
[17:50] <rick_h_> cmaloney: got meeting moved, 6pm dinner?
[17:50] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Would love yo
[17:50] <rick_h_> greg-g: it's ok, we all need our anchor :)
[17:50] <cmaloney> to
[17:50] <cmaloney> Man, I'm just Mr. Typo today.
[17:50] <rick_h_> cmaloney: k, meet there?
[17:57] <cmaloney> Oh geez, the rube goldberg machine at the beginning is humorous.
[18:05] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: anything interesting?
[18:05] <mrgoodcat> i can't watch at work
[18:05] <mrgoodcat> well i could. but i'm busy today beyond reason
[18:11] <jrwren> mrgoodcat: i'm watching.
[18:11] <jrwren> rick_h_: you play apple fanboi watching IO ?
[18:13] <rick_h_> jrwren: I act like one by s/apple/google
[18:13] <jrwren> ah, same here.
[18:13] <jrwren> i'm not a google fan boi but I am when I watch google IO
[18:13] <cmaloney> Same here.
[18:14] <cmaloney> OK, one out of two packages from Amazon delivered.
[18:21] <mrgoodcat> does that mean nothing interesting so far?
[18:28] <jrwren> i had to step out for a meeting.
[18:28] <jrwren> I thought all the L api stuff was interesting.
[18:29] <rick_h_> I wish they'd just give it a name and stop with the L
[18:29] <rick_h_> the L stuff is cool, but some of it was stuff that I've had in the motox
[18:30] <rick_h_> the car stuff will be cool, but not something I'll be able to get my hands on for years
[18:30] <rick_h_> The chromecast stuff is probably the only thing I'll get/see any time soon
[18:30] <jrwren> same here.
[18:30] <jrwren> i missed the entire chromecast part :(
[18:31] <rick_h_> they've built screening into it. You can replicate your entire device on the tv
[18:31] <jrwren> YAY!
[18:31] <rick_h_> showed off using google earth on the phone, and having the display mirroed on the tv
[18:31] <rick_h_> to show his wife where hawaii was
[18:31] <rick_h_> err, his daughter
[18:31] <jrwren> lol.
[18:31] <rick_h_> so that's cool to be able to just mirror the screen
[18:31] <rick_h_> without wires
[18:31] <rick_h_> bye bye dvd cable
[18:32] <jrwren> ios has had that for 3yrs
[18:32] <jrwren> i'm glad someone else has it now too
[18:32] <rick_h_> hopefully that means we can show a movie from my tablet to the tv without an internet connection
[18:32] <rick_h_> we'll see
[18:32] <mrgoodcat> its always like that
[18:32] <mrgoodcat> [insert device] has had this feature for [number] years
[18:33] <jrwren> mrgoodcat: yeah.
[18:33] <jrwren> i'm glad we have all this competition
[18:33] <mrgoodcat> apple and google stay pretty competitive in terms of features
[18:34] <mrgoodcat> they usually each have a couple things the other doesnt have, but the other always eventually gets it
[18:58] <rick_h_> I think that what it was is that it's all android. Google's IO didn't have the big picture stuff of the home automation, super chrome coolness, glass/etc stuff. It was basically android and tools for android devs.
[19:09] <mrgoodcat> you see the new gmail api?
[19:10] <mrgoodcat> apps will be able to access the contents of your emails...
[19:16] <cmaloney> That's cool and scary at the same time
[19:26] <mrgoodcat> i'm sure there will be some cool functionality
[19:26] <mrgoodcat> and there has to be some protection, like apps won't be able to see the full text or something like that... not really sure
[19:26] <mrgoodcat> i didn't read much about it
[19:27] <jrwren> rick_h_: and app engine dev.
[19:27] <jrwren> it wasn't exciting for the masses, but I thought the dataflow announcement was pretty powerful
[19:41] <jrwren> wait... chromebook runs android apps now?!?!  that is rather huge
[19:47] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoho
[19:47] <bookiebot> squeekyhoho's current track - Circles Of Defeat by Colosso on Foregone Semblances
[20:01] <mrgoodcat> http://www.omgchrome.com/vlc-chromecast-support-coming-android-ios-desktop/
[20:01] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/LwSDIx - 403 Forbidden
[20:01] <mrgoodcat> this is pretty cool too
[20:16] <jrwren> yay VLC!
[20:25] <krondor> i need to look into the google fit and apple healthkit stuff more
[20:30] <krondor> where's the home automation announcements or was it only the nest works stuff from yesterday?
[20:47] <rick_h_> krondor: yea, just the stuff from yesterday
[20:47] <rick_h_> no news on that front