[00:00] <ki7mt> I know for a fact it's up to date, as I helped write parts of it.
[00:00] <h4nk> !request http://members.rk.com/ (CCBill)
[00:01] <eurythmia> daftykins: ah-hah. buttons 1 2 3 are laid out in the order on the classic 3-button mouse. (1- left click, 2- middle click, 3 - right click), so I needed to reverse 1 and 3 to do what I was trying to do. Thanks for prodding me into experimentation :-)
[00:01] <daftykins> eurythmia: :D no problem! apologies for saying so without certainty though.
[00:02] <eurythmia> daftykins: it wasn't spoonfeeding, and it wasn't "rtfm", I am grateful for the response.
[00:02] <daftykins> :)
[00:07] <daftykins> ki7mt: how come it doesn't mention that out of the box /var/www/html/ is alive and working?
[00:08] <ki7mt> daftykins, sri, dont understand what your asking?
[00:08] <daftykins> ki7mt: the ubuntu guide page, it delves straight into specifying sites but doesn't mention the default is working out of the box?
[00:09] <ki7mt> if you point a browser at http://ip-addy/ it shoudl present a default page that says It's Alive :-)
[00:10] <daftykins> ki7mt: right, but the guide doesn't seem to state that that's already available and being served, the new user visiting that doc might think they need to create a new site first
[00:10] <ki7mt> For instance, my UBuntu mirror, I didn't enable any sites, simply built the server, and liked a folder /var/www/ubuntu .. if I point to http://ip-addy/ I get the alive message
[00:10] <ki7mt> s/linked/liked/
[00:11] <daftykins> yep because it's serving from /var/www/html as default in 14.04 server
[00:11] <ki7mt> daftykins, Ahh, ok I see what your saying, I can pass that along to the main writers.
[00:11] <daftykins> :)
[00:12] <Flam> I just did an update on my server and php5-fpm is returning many errors.  For example, I ran "sudo apt-get remove --purge php5-fpm" then "sudo apt-get install php5-fpm" and it is outputting the following line: "update-rc.d: warning: php5-fpm stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (none)"
[00:12] <Flam> Is anyone else experiencing this  / knows how I can fix it?
[00:13] <ki7mt> daftykins, Actually, that's exactly the ype of QA those docs needs, as the writers are so entrenched in the contest, it's easy to forget the target audience.
[00:13] <ki7mt> .. content ..
[00:13] <daftykins> ki7mt: hehe, friends have told me i should do technical writing, before
[00:13] <ki7mt> They need help, lots of it for sure.
[00:14] <ki7mt> Especially on the three main docs, Server, Desktop and the Yelp-Help apps.
[00:14] <daftykins> ki7mt: does it actually break at that point?
[00:15] <ki7mt> daftykins, does what break ?
[00:15] <daftykins> ki7mt: ugh sorry, my brain is fail tonight, i highlighted you instead of Flam
[00:15] <ki7mt> :-)
[00:15] <daftykins> Flam: ^ :D
[00:16] <Flam> daftykins: I think so: http://puu.sh/9INPq/b541308d91.png
[00:16] <Flam> the last line in the image is the last line I get
[00:16] <daftykins> Flam: oh, well it looks like it returned to the prompt so it hasn't really failed
[00:17] <Flam> but my wordpress blog is erroring out
[00:17] <daftykins> Flam: in what way?
[00:17] <ki7mt> may be a bug in the init script run level settings
[00:17] <ki7mt> That's twice today that we've seen the same error mentioned.
[00:18] <daftykins> ki7mt: oh? this runlevel one?
[00:19] <ki7mt> yeah, saw it with the guy trying to install openerp also
[00:20] <ki7mt> different packages, same result message
[00:21] <ki7mt> I guess it's a warning, not so much an error, but still.
[00:22] <daftykins> it almost seems like a package for a distro that does use runlevels is being installed on one that doesn't
[00:22] <daftykins> but i'm not very experienced with all that side of things
[00:22] <Flam> nginx error logs displaying  http://puu.sh/9IOfD/c6fb9abea6.png
[00:23] <Flam> never encountered this issue in 1yr of uptime lol
[00:23] <Flam> I also don't see why there would be a permission issue
[00:23] <daftykins> hmm i've not used nginx
[00:23] <ki7mt> Flam, yup, someitng definately not right with fpm. was it working before the upgrade?
[00:23] <Flam> ki7mt: yes
[00:24] <ki7mt> Flam, I'd regress until that's resolved, whatever it is causing it.
[00:24] <Flam> I don't know how to do that :/ And I've already made many changes
[00:25] <daftykins> but you've got your backup, right? :)
[00:25] <ki7mt> Flam, well, lesson one, test things in a dev env first, before adding to a produciton server ;-)
[00:25] <Flam> I wish I had that luxury lol
[00:27] <daftykins> thanks to virtualisation, we all do </TV advert>
[00:27] <ki7mt> Flam, in my old life, that was dev, staging then release :-) .. non of that helps you at the moment I know.
[00:27] <Flam> i never expected something as old and stable as php5-fpm to shit itself like this though
[00:28] <daftykins> easy on the language please my good man O_.
[00:28] <Flam> Sorry
[00:28] <ki7mt> Flam, Honestly thoug, only think I can suggest is looking at your dpkg.logs and remove the updates, but your still gonna be left dead in the water until you install the all the older packages.
[00:30] <ki7mt> Flam, I dont know the answer here, but if it's happening to you, others probably too, a bit of googling may yield a result or two.
[00:30] <Flam> I think I'm on the right track to solving it
[00:31] <Flam> Will write what I do here when I figure it out
[00:31] <ki7mt> I use / write a bit of php, but not web-based apps, UI based.
[00:31] <daftykins> Flam: i did a clean wordpress install the other day on 14.04 and didn't have to touch php5-fpm
[00:31] <daftykins> albeit with apache2
[00:32] <Flam> yeah when you use nginx you need php5-fpm
[00:32] <kdeder> hey, can anyone recommend a wifi card for a desktop?  I guess it should be Intel-based?  pci-e, right?
[00:32] <zh1> pci?
[00:32] <daftykins> Flam: you could purge reinstall it?
[00:32] <Flam> I did
[00:32] <Flam> 'Didn't help\
[00:33] <daftykins> oh, you said you removed and installed, didn't see mention of purge
[00:33] <daftykins> kdeder: does speed matter?
[00:33] <kdeder> daftykins:  dunno... well, I want more than 'g' ;)
[00:34] <daftykins> i bought a very cheap 'n' the other day, which worked out of the box with ubuntu 14.04
[00:34] <kdeder> at least, N?  I have an old router but I hope to replace either when it dies or when I need more speed
[00:34] <zh1> kdeder, just one tip before buying card check for its compatibility and specs
[00:34] <kdeder> daftykins:  which one?  I should find an intel chipset, right?
[00:35] <ocoxo> hello MonkeyDust!
[00:35] <kdeder> zh1:  right... I have the intel linux support list in front of me
[00:35] <daftykins> kdeder: you won't get intel wireless in a desktop PCI-Express card
[00:35] <daftykins> kdeder: i got this super simple cheap thing to keep the parents happy - TP-Link TL-WN781ND
[00:35] <kdeder> daftykins:  I think I can... there's a bunch on ebay, for e.g.
[00:36] <kdeder> daftykins:  isn't that usb?
[00:36] <daftykins> kdeder: nope low profile PCI-E 1x
[00:36] <daftykins> it's pretty basic but is a well supported Atheros chipset
[00:36] <kdeder> daftykins: okay...
[00:36] <daftykins> but yeah, pretty basic on the speed front
[00:36] <daftykins> you won't be breaking any records
[00:37] <kdeder> daftykins:  ah :)
[00:37] <kdeder> well, do you get full bars?
[00:37] <Flam> Ok I solved it.  First I purged then reinstalled.  Then I updated the config file to use my socket like so: "listen = /var/run/php5-fpm.sock", then I uncommented the following lines: listen.owner, listen.group, listen.mode, then I reinstalled php5-mysql, then restarted php5-fpm and nginx.
[00:37] <Flam> I also made listen.mode 0666 instead of 0660
[00:37] <ki7mt> Dont need too, most nic cards are faster than the saverage service speed anyway
[00:37] <ki7mt> .. average ..
[00:37] <kdeder> hmmm
[00:37] <zh1> kdeder, give more details on max price and type card need
[00:37] <kdeder> so, I don't need intel?  I thought it was just a safer bet
[00:38] <kdeder> zh1:  I can go pci, pci-e... or usb, obviously
[00:38] <kdeder> pci-e - I thought it will be stronger signal and speed?
[00:38] <daftykins> kdeder: not a good comparison really, my parents system has line-of-sight
[00:39] <daftykins> a PCI-E card could have better antennas that you could position further away from the metallic computer case, yeah
[00:39] <kdeder> max price - cheaper is better... my desktop is old and I want to buy a mini-itx machine eventually or laptop :)
[00:39] <daftykins> and avoiding USB + networking is always a good thing
[00:39] <ki7mt> Indeed
[00:39] <kdeder> daftykins:  yes, that's what I was thinking ;)
[00:40] <zh1> kdeder, is it for desktop or lap?
[00:40] <kdeder> intel has some pci-e cards... including a desktop 7260 ac version but it's really expensive
[00:40] <ki7mt> kdeder, here's a good place to look: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[00:40] <kdeder> zh1:  desktop
[00:41] <ki7mt> 3Com, belkin, Dlink, all have 3 or more devices supported
[00:41] <ki7mt> or device types I should say
[00:41] <kdeder> there's no listing for pci-e though?
[00:42] <ki7mt> That's a waste of a slot, there's no need for it, thus not many around.
[00:42] <ki7mt> Standard PCI is more than enough for a Nic card.
[00:43] <kdeder> the listing is outdated, I think :)
[00:43] <zh1> kdeder, what motherboard u have
[00:43] <kdeder> zh1:  asus p5q
[00:44] <ki7mt> It may be a bit dated, last update was AUG-2013
[00:44] <daftykins> kdeder: odd, i'd expect intel to only do the mini-PCI-E wireless cards for laptops
[00:44] <kastan> does anyone know how to get netflix to work I keep getting the i need to install silverlight wich i have installed and unistalled several times  i also have tried using the firefox override and nada
[00:44] <holstein> !netflix
[00:45] <holstein> kastan: they dont officially support linux
[00:45] <kdeder> here's the intel list:   http://www.intel.com/support/wireless/wlan/sb/CS-034398.htm
[00:45] <kastan> ubottu: i tried all of that and kept getting the same error
[00:46] <holstein> kastan: thats from me, friend. thats what we have.. if its not working, you could be doing it incorrectly, but, they (netflix) dont support linux, so you can expect breakage
[00:46] <ki7mt> Use Piplight .. it works: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html
[00:47] <kdeder> is there any way of knowing what order that hardware is?  I mean, 7260 is more recent?
[00:48] <daftykins> kdeder: intel's website has detailed info on all their devices
[00:48] <daftykins> time doesn't directly relate to support though
[00:48] <kastan> ill try it again should i remove and reinstall it all again
[00:48] <kdeder> I thought more recent cards might be better?
[00:49] <Jordan_U> kastan: How exactly did you install and uninstall silverlight many times?
[00:49] <ki7mt> kdeder, I think you'll find, that on Linux, newest, is not usualy the bestest :-) a year or two old of often better for kenerl support, especially with Nic Drivers
[00:49] <holstein> kastan: they dont support if, friend.. so, you can literally try whatever you think is going to work. i know, i would just purge all and start over..
[00:52] <Jordan_U> kastan: How exactly did you install and uninstall silverlight many times? Possible solutions for using Silverlight in Ubuntu include Netflix-Desktop: https://launchpad.net/netflix-desktop and PipeLight: https://launchpad.net/pipelight .
[00:53] <kastan> Jordan_U i did sudo apt-get remove --purge pipelight
[00:54] <Foxhoundz> Does tasksel install the latest LAMP binaries?
[00:54] <ki7mt> Yes, whatever is in the repo it installs, may not be bleeding edge, but not too far from it.
[00:55] <kastan> now it says i need to upgrade silverlight
[00:56] <Jordan_U> kastan: How did you initially install pipelight?
[00:56] <holstein> kastan: it may "say" lots of things.. try and use netflix, and if it works, and you can get around messages, do so..
[00:56] <ki7mt> Foxhoundz, use apt-cache search and apt-cache show for the packages, you'll see the version it would install.
[00:56] <kastan> it wont let me get around this one
[00:56] <kastan> udo apt-get install --install-recommends pipelight-multi
[00:57] <kastan> sudo apt-get install --install-recommends pipelight-multi
[00:57] <holstein> kastan: its muy understanding the netflix desktop tries to do all of this for you.. have you tried it?
[00:57] <holstein> my*
[00:58] <Foxhoundz> ki7mt: gotcha. So Tasksel is just a wrapper for apt-get right?
[00:59] <Foxhoundz> it doesn't actually download the binaries from its own source from somewhere, yes?
[00:59] <kastan> trying now but its a .exe file which wont be supported
[00:59] <ki7mt> Foxhoundz, Yes, sort of, it's like a meta-package installer for servers.
[00:59] <kastan> or will it in wine
[00:59] <kastan> hmm
[01:00] <holstein> !netflix
[01:00] <holstein> kastan: whatever is says in the support listed above for it.. its for linux specifically.. though, not from netfli
[01:00] <holstein> kastan: specifically https://bugs.launchpad.net/netflix-desktop
[01:01] <kastan> holstein: awesome thank you
[01:02] <geekintime> I am writing a packet capture application and seeing extremely long waits (>60 seconds) for pcap_findalldevs to return.  Can someone point me to a likely cause?  tcpdump is also doing this ( tcpdump -n )
[01:02] <Jordan_U> kastan: I assume you also added one of the pipelight ppas before running apt-get install pipelight-multi. Which ppa did you add, and how?
[01:03] <kastan> Jordan_U sudo apt-add-repository ppa:pipelight/stable
[01:04] <kastan> Jordan_U i used it via terminal i prefer terminal over the gui
[01:04] <ki7mt> you and me both :-)
[01:14] <ocoxo> hello everyone, if anyone ever had or has problem opening links in tabs/browsers on liferea feed reader, this solves the problem:  if you go to 'network' in system settings, and select 'network proxy', then the method must be'none'. or if it happens to be 'manual' then the server etc. shouldnt be left blank and values need to be entered. I found this in launchpad as a debugging solution and it worked; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-clien
[01:14] <ocoxo> t/+bug/942312
[01:18] <aurieisaac> .
[01:19] <aurieisaac> please, someboddy send any msg just to me test de alert from chat. thanks
[01:20] <Quoexl> aureianimus: any more message?
[01:20] <geekintime> What would cause the pcap_findalldevs function to take >60 seconds to return? Seeing this in my own application and tcpdump.
[01:20] <holstein> aurieisaac: ? use the #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[01:20] <aurieisaac> no, thats all
[01:20] <aurieisaac> thanks
[01:21] <ki7mt> that's like asking to get bombarded with marbles :-) no thanks.
[01:21] <daftykins> g'night fellow helpers
[01:28] <rajareddy> hi guys !
[01:28] <rajareddy> i'm new to xubuntu after a lot of times crashing ubuntu !
[01:29] <holstein> xubuntu *is* ubuntu
[01:31] <rajareddy> but i see it differently !
[01:34] <rajareddy> hi ! good morning
[01:35] <holstein> rajareddy: feel free and use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat. lots of folks over there to wish a good morning to :)
[01:36] <adamfish> Hello?
[01:36] <rajareddy> got it !
[01:36] <holstein> adamfish: welcome.. let us know if you have a question.. otherwise, feel free and use #ubuntu-offtopic for chat.. thanks
[01:36] <adamfish> I do.
[01:36] <Sunstream> Anyone help me here with Ident how to get it to work so I can use it for IRC
[01:37] <adamfish> I am trying to download wine, but it doesn't know where to use the APT?
[01:37] <holstein> !register
[01:37] <holstein> Sunstream: ^ is that what you are talking about? identifying?
[01:37] <holstein> !wine | adamfish
[01:38] <Sunstream> so when people do whois on me will see my username without the ~
[01:38] <holstein> adamfish: its as simple as "sudo apt-get install" in a terminal..
[01:38] <holstein> !freenode | Sunstream
[01:38] <jayson_2> hi.  If I have a package that wants an older library version, and I have a newer one installed, do I just create a softlink with the expected version number
[01:38] <rajareddy> k folks !  i'm trying to  install media plugins  ! but i saw the direct install  method in saucy salmander ,  but now trusty behaving something differently ! like wise "use this source" when i selected it it's staying normal like a  struct system ! so i need some assistance
[01:39] <Sunstream> Don't I need to install a Ident program on my Ubuntu install?
[01:39] <holstein> !restricted | rajareddy
[01:39] <holstein> Sunstream: ask the freenode maintainers.. i dont think that is related
[01:40] <rajareddy> yeah , i tried that ,  restricted extras , but i faced the same problem @ holstein
[01:40] <Guest12906> Hi Guys, i've just installed the ubuntu gnome desktop 14.04.., installation finished but currently I can't install any other software.., what went wrong? it says "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."., how to fix it.., thanks
[01:40] <Quoexl> rajareddy: may I pm you?
[01:40] <Sunstream> !ident
[01:40] <holstein> rajareddy: ok.. what problem?
[01:40] <rajareddy> 12906  ; at the boot screen u can see advanced options from there try to fix the brocken packages
[01:40] <Sunstream> I really doubt they can help because the IDENT is on the client side not their side
[01:40] <holstein> rajareddy: you have not enabled the sources? you will read how to do that at the links i gave. what are you trying to do? play mp3's? dvd's?
[01:41] <Beldar> Guest12906, Try running in the terminal sudo apt-get -f install
[01:41] <holstein> Sunstream: ok.. then, run ident as they intend it to be run.. where are you getting ident? is it an ubuntu application?
[01:41] <K`zan> Hi folks, I have a handicapped friend who is paraplegic and unable to manipulate the keyboard.  Is there some way I can send a keystroke from my machine to hers, walking over every time she need a pagedown is getting old :-(.  Any help appreciated!
[01:41] <rajareddy> yeah , i want  media codecs !
[01:41] <Guest12906> rajareddy: at the boot screen?
[01:42] <holstein> rajareddy: ok. for what? what are you trying to do? mp3's? dvd's?
[01:42] <rajareddy> yeah 12906 , at the boot
[01:42] <Quoexl> is this where we dont say medibuntu?
[01:42] <Guest12906> Beldar: ok.., I am gonna try it now
[01:42] <Beldar> Guest12906, Disregard that command
[01:42] <holstein> Oranabi: correct.. we dont, since they are dead..
[01:42] <holstein> Oranabi: sorry.. Quoexl ^
[01:42] <rajareddy> now it's 24 hr i installed xubuntu , but i can't able to play any media ! so i think i do need codecs !
[01:42] <holstein> rajareddy: for what? mp3 playback? dvd's?
[01:43] <rajareddy> all media mp3, mp4 , mpeg etc
[01:43] <holstein> rajareddy: i play all media i need in xubuntu.. and im happy to help you. as is any volunteer..
[01:43] <holstein> rajareddy: the link i gave itemizes how to do so.. what trouble are you having specifically?
[01:44] <jay_> hello?
[01:44] <Sunstream> its a piece of software that responds to the a query on port 113
[01:44] <Quoexl> !hello jay_
[01:44] <holstein> rajareddy: you may want the complete ubuntu-restricted-extras package.. have you tried installing it?
[01:46] <jay_> i am so confused by linux. can someone explain some shit to me. I've tried like 8 distro's and can't get half of them to install.  I keep trying to boot from a usb stick and a bunch of installs (like puppy linux and dsl) can't find the kernals? I dunno what's happening lol
[01:46] <holstein> jay_: try and keep it family friendly.. with the language.. thanks
[01:46] <rajareddy> now i tried to install it ! it's seems to be paused at "quering software sources"
[01:46] <jay_> I can't even get my wireless to work. It makes me want to go back to windows. I've been trying linux for two days but gez it's hard/ sorry about the language
[01:46] <holstein> jay_: you may have an issue where, you had a problematic piece of hardware failing, and are experiencing issues with that
[01:47] <holstein> jay_: windows came on the machine though, preinstalled. so, it can be a challenge to expect to just install the os when you havent before.. have you installed windows before?
[01:47] <jay_> I am running from Lubuntu right now. It's a little to slow and picky for my liking though.
[01:47] <holstein> !wifi
[01:47] <jay_> I've installed windows 95, 98, xp and 7
[01:48] <lexus00z> wow. thats quite alot
[01:48] <jay_> i mean in the past lol
[01:48] <holstein> jay_: you can try that for your wireless, but, i would just try and wire up to internet.. and open either the update manager, and upgrade, or "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in the terminal.. and reboot.. then, if you have no wifi, we can go from there
[01:48] <adamfish> To install wine, these items must be removed:
[01:48] <rajareddy> remember these three while installing linux <root , home, swap> that's  all !  @ jay
[01:48] <holstein> adamfish: if you have a lot of 3rd party sources added, you can run into issues..
[01:49] <adamfish> vidia opencl diver and icd loader library? How to do that?
[01:49] <jay_> i've done with update manager hostien. i have a driver installed (b43) and can connect to my wifi but the browser doesn't work
[01:49] <adamfish> Why did it get rid of alot?
[01:49] <holstein> adamfish: are you using ubuntu 14.04?
[01:49] <adamfish> Yes
[01:49] <holstein> jay_: what browser doesnt do what?
[01:49] <jay_> what does swap do rajareddy?
[01:49] <adamfish> I just got it.
[01:50] <holstein> jay_: i know it can be frustrating,but try and ask questions..
[01:50] <adamfish> No 3rd part or anything
[01:50] <holstein> jay_: swap is like the page file in windows, basically
[01:50] <jay_> firefox says i'm not connected to the internet.
[01:50] <holstein> jay_: are you?
[01:50] <jay_> i dunno what a page file is sorry
[01:50] <omi_> rajareddy: I can't find the advance setting you mention to me before., I the guest1206 and now log in to another machine
[01:50] <holstein> jay_: in windows, the page file is the basic equivalent of the swap partition in linux
[01:50] <lexus00z> jay:maybe its your wifi doesnt connected to the internet
[01:51] <holstein> jay_: pretty much, if you didnt care to find out what the page file was, then you likely dont need to know what swap is..
[01:51] <rajareddy> swap : double to your RAM size
[01:51] <jay_> yes i'm connected to the internet cause i'm using ethernet. if i were to disconnect ethernet, i could get connected to my wifi but firefox says i have no internet
[01:51] <adamfish> I have 32 gigs of ram
[01:51] <cabrito> .
[01:51] <jay_> that could be lexus
[01:51] <lexus00z> rajareddy.thats quite a good explanation
[01:51] <rajareddy> then try ping  from terminal !, sometimes slow internet problem!
[01:52] <omi_> so, double size the ram for swap? is it still necessary?
[01:52] <holstein> jay_: open a terminal and run "ping google.com"
[01:52] <jay_> do routers often not play well with the ex3 ex4 file systems?
[01:52] <adamfish> Where are ehternet drivers located? I need to get rid of my Nvidia
[01:52] <rajareddy> router don't differentiate file systems
[01:52] <holstein> jay_: no.. your router could care less about your filesystem, and is more likely running linux that anything else
[01:53] <adamfish> Well wine is telling me to get rid of my Ethernet ports
[01:53] <holstein> adamfish: not likely..
[01:53] <ki7mt> omi_, no, not unless your have some serious comutations apps running. I very rarely ever see swap being used, even with swapeness set to 60 (Ubuntu default)
[01:53] <lexus00z> adamfish: you mean nvidia drive?
[01:53] <adamfish> Yes
[01:53] <adamfish> Wine doesnt like it.
[01:53] <omi_> how to install any software on ubuntu gnome 14.04?
[01:53] <holstein> adamfish: maybe something you are running with wine.. but i literaly run "sudo apt-ge install wine" and "wine /path/to/*.exe" and see if it works
[01:53] <adamfish> So I cant download it
[01:54] <holstein> omi_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[01:54] <wolfy1339> how do i run xubuntu-desktop on ubuntu server 14.04? i need it for x11vnc
[01:54] <adamfish> apt-ge not found?
[01:55] <jay_> ok before i waste y'alls time fixing my wifi, what distrobution would you guys recommend i use on an older pc? i want to be able to watch youtube wiithout it being choppy at 720p. i try on Lubuntu but it is choppy. puppy wasn't choppy but i couldn't get it to install
[01:55] <lexus00z> adamfish. its apt-get
[01:55] <adamfish> Do I need su?
[01:55] <holstein> adamfish: apt-get, friend
[01:55] <lexus00z> yes
[01:55] <lexus00z> sudo apt-get
[01:55] <holstein> adamfish: i have a typo up there, but i had already given you that command before..
[01:55] <holstein> adamfish: sudo apt-get install wine
[01:56] <holstein> adamfish: actually, do this. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine"
[01:56] <adamfish> Alright
[01:56] <lexus00z> why shoulf update every time before install?
[01:56] <holstein> wolfy1339: you may just want xfce4.. sudo apt-get install xfce4
[01:56] <wolfy1339> ok
[01:56] <holstein> lexus00z: i didnt say that, but, its a good idea to be accessing current data..
[01:57] <adamfish> Fetching and reading
[01:57] <omi_> holstein:  i got error message : E : unable to correct problems, you have held broken package, and I know how to install software on ubuntu with terminal, Ubuntu software center and synaptic, but this is my first time using the ubuntu gnome 14.04, i can't install anything :(
[01:57] <lexus00z> holstein:ok then
[01:57] <jay_> ok before i waste y'alls time fixing my wifi, what distrobution would you guys recommend i use on an older pc? i want to be able to watch youtube wiithout it being choppy at 720p. i try on Lubuntu but it is choppy. puppy wasn't choppy but i couldn't get it to install
[01:58] <adamfish> Jay try ubuntu studio requires some fixing buts its darn good.
[01:58] <holstein> omi_: thats got nothing to do with gnome, though.. if you have broken your system, you can hopefully repair it by running "sudo apt-get update" in a terminal and dealing with errors
[01:58] <jay_> I have a lot of questions and don't want to drive you guys nuts. sorry in advance
[01:58] <adamfish> I dual boot 3 OS's
[01:58] <Beldar> omi_, we need a pastebin showing that error and the packages
[01:58] <jay_> some fixing? what do yo mean by that?
[01:58] <holstein> jay_: i recommend trying the live versions of the ubuntu derivitives.. "flavours"
[01:58] <adamfish> Well I have to fix APT's
[01:58] <holstein> !flavors
[01:58] <lexus00z> jay: its ok
[01:58] <adamfish> IT wont find the file correctly
[01:59] <holstein> jay_: they are *all* ubuntu, though.. all have the same sources.. just different default configurations
[01:59] <adamfish> But its a 2 minute fix
[01:59] <adamfish> Sound works
[01:59] <jay_> so what is recommended for my old pc?
[01:59] <holstein> jay_: i say, choose one, and try and stick it out.. remember how you worked with windows "as-is" for a long time, and had no other options but just to learn to use it
[01:59] <adamfish> Ubuntu Studio
[01:59] <Beldar> omi_,Run the apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade and pastebin all of the stuff in the terminal.
[01:59] <holstein> jay_: lubuntu is fine.. or xubuntu
[02:00] <omi_> holstein: I did it actually, after I change to local repositories, I try to install some software, but it wont work.., Beldarok
[02:00] <holstein> i actually disagree on ubuntustudio. though i use it
[02:00] <omi_> Beldar: ok., try it now
[02:00] <mygood> wait
[02:00] <holstein> omi_: if you have broken your sources, you'll have to fix that
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[02:01] <unopaste> adamfish you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[02:01] <jay_> lubuntu is weird though holstein. simple things are hard. like, i can't even change the time on my clock?  i go to digital clock settings and it has a %R??? lol
[02:01] <holstein> !paste | adamfish
[02:01] <jay_> how to i direct my comments like you guys are to a particular person?
[02:01] <holstein> jay_: they are actually not simple, or hard.. its just uncommmon for you.. and i understand its frustrating.. it was for me as well, but i can assure you, i am quite quickly simialarly frustrated with windows now.. though, its not "hard", its just uncommon to me nkow
[02:02] <holstein> now*
[02:02] <holstein> !tab | jay_
[02:02] <triplc> Hi all
[02:03] <holstein> jay_: just remember how long you have been using windows. and how long you use it before adding wifi into the mix.. or customizing anything about the UI.
[02:03] <lexus00z> what about using on cellphome
[02:03] <jay_> holstein, need
[02:03] <jay_> neat*
[02:03] <holstein> jay_: try and give yourself time and be patient.. and plan for failure.. use live CD's to experiment...
[02:03] <omi_> Beldar: run the apt-get update., everything just fine I think.., no error message.., and sorry I can't  paste the post on the terminal because it is on another machine
[02:03] <lexus00z> how can i autocomplish rhe nickname
[02:03] <MouseTheLuckyDog> Is there a GUI runlevel editor?
[02:03] <triplc> how to uninstall Firefox? I run apt-get... to remove it, but apt-get requires me to INSTALL epiphany, which I don't need. I just download Firefox ESR and want to use it instead of Firefox
[02:04]  * triplc using 12.04
[02:04] <holstein> triplc: you may prefer a GUI package manager like synaptic.. you can try "sudo apt-get autoremove firefox"
[02:05] <Beldar> lexus00z, Help directly or ask for support on a issue, don't just randomly comment and use nick when you do.
[02:05] <omi_> now running the dist-upgrade.., it seems like it downloading some thing Beldar
[02:05] <triplc> holstein: I use apt-get... the problem is that there is some package that require firefox
[02:05] <jay_> holstein, I've been two days patient. Windows just does everything for you. Drivers? don't worry about it. ut Clocks? I can set them. lol Windows is easy for anyone. Even people who've never used PC's I'd wager. I do want to learn to use linux though b
[02:05] <triplc> I do not know which one
[02:05] <jay_> because I like the idea of it being made for people just for the heck of being nice and making cool software. that's neat to me
[02:06] <js_doode> jay_: You've taken the red pill eh?
[02:06] <triplc> how to find package(s) that DEPEND on firefox?
[02:06] <jay_> and, i have old hardware i'd like to use and windows is slow
[02:06] <lexus00z> beldar: understood
[02:06] <jay_> i forgot which pill is which but sure..
[02:06] <Beldar> omi_, Why is are you not on the broken computer here?
[02:06] <omi_> jay_ have you tried crunhbang?
[02:06] <js_doode> jay_: distrowatch
[02:06] <adamfish> I am stuck at http://paste.ubuntu.com/7698152/
[02:06] <holstein> jay_: if you want linux to "do everything for you" then, do the same as you do with windows.. buy a machine with ubuntu on it
[02:07] <Beldar> sorry bad grammar, lol omi_
[02:07] <adamfish> Help I cant fix the error
[02:07] <jay_> omi_, i haven't tried that one
[02:07] <jay_> do any older distro's just 'work' out of the box?
[02:07] <omi_> Beldar: I can' reconnect to the irc channel using the "broken machine" :)
[02:07] <adamfish> Jay: Linux Mint
[02:07] <holstein> jay_: its not fail to purchas a machine that comes with windows, and expect ubuntu to "just work".. its quite nice when things do, and actually, i find linux does have more "out of the box" support for hardware than windows..
[02:07] <js_doode> jay_: debian based lubuntu, xubuntu
[02:08] <jay_> I can't afford a new machine cause my town is bad for jobs right now :(
[02:08] <omi_> how old your machine anyway jay_
[02:08] <holstein> jay_: its not about the distro working.. its about it being compatible with your hardware
[02:08] <adamfish> Going back to windows 7..
[02:08] <jay_> i tried linux mint adamfish. it was sloooow
[02:08] <Beldar> adamfish, try windows 8. ;)
[02:08] <miggym> holstein: very true! linux autoinstalled my drivers, whereas windows left me without internet access was stuck at a crappy resolution til i installed drivers
[02:08] <adamfish> SLow but if ram booted.
[02:08] <adamfish> Super fast
[02:09]  * js_doode cries incessantly for the poor souls giving up and going back to winblows
[02:09] <jay_> my machine is about 7 years old? AMD Turion 62 x2 1.8ghz
[02:09] <miggym> jay_: i've had very good experiences with crunchbang
[02:09] <adamfish> Js_doode: I like Ubuntu better but its hard
[02:09] <Beldar> js_doode, misspelling windows here is a loss of cred not gain.
[02:10] <holstein> lubuntu is fresher code.. not that that matters, necessarily..
[02:10] <omi_> I have a pentium 4 2.4Ghz 478,Ram 1GB ddr1.., running crunchbang jay_
[02:10] <js_doode> Beldar: my bad.
[02:10] <holstein> i have a 900mhz celeron running cruchbang, but it ran lubuntu as well..
[02:10] <Beldar> omi_, Is the broken os crunchbang?
[02:10] <omi_> nope
[02:11] <omi_> Beldar: nope.., it is a ubuntu gnome 14.04
[02:11] <Beldar> !who | omi_
[02:11] <adamfish> I have the best computer money can get at the moment fast and Ubuntu still has probs.
[02:11] <allenrm> hey all, i'm looking for something like MS OneNote, that will allow me to keep notes, and clips from websites etc. for linux, any suggestions of something that might work well?
[02:11] <jay_> that sounds good. maybe crunchbag is worth a shot guys
[02:11] <miggym> jay_: you might not like openbox though
[02:11] <Beldar> adamfish, Err, it is the user has problems, you are not even familiar with linux.
[02:12] <holstein> jay_: crunchband.. and its not supported here.. thats the other appeal for lubuntu or an offical ubuntu flavor.. arguably the largest desktop based community user-ship
[02:12] <holstein> crunchbang*
[02:12] <js_doode> adamfish: good luck to you and don't give up. Windows is great but if you want to get your hands dirty then linux is the place. Peace.
[02:12] <adamfish> Beldar: I need some help as you said, this is my first time.
[02:13] <Beldar> adamfish, than don't externalize the blame and get to learning using critical thinking.
[02:13] <jay_> what do you suggest then holstein? Lubuntu won't play 720 youtube :( will crunchband?
[02:13] <holstein> jay_: you will have issues with youtube on any linux distroo
[02:13] <jay_> i basically, download torrents, go on youtube, and reddit
[02:14] <holstein> jay_: i say, choose one, based on look and feel and hardware support.. then, deal with things like youtube
[02:14] <jay_> that's all i need the distro to do. simple stuff
[02:14] <holstein> jay_: they will *all* do that
[02:14] <miggym> jay_: use chromium and get the pepper plugin for flash
[02:14] <jay_> then i should pick the bare minimum like dsl?
[02:14] <jay_> since it will do that?
[02:15] <jay_> flash on Lubuntu makes my processor run at 100 percent with 480p video lol
[02:15] <jay_> ok, well 70's to 100% in that range
[02:15] <holstein> jay_: sure.. and adobe is welcome to address that, but they dont
[02:15] <miggym> jay_: i think that's more of a problem with flash than it is a problem with lubuntu. have you tried setting youtube to use html5?
[02:16] <jay_> I dunno how miggym I'd like to learn tho!
[02:16] <holstein> jay_: you can go here https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ and see factually the older version of flash you have.. i use either the html5 option, or the chrome flash in chrome browser or chromium
[02:16] <holstein> or, i avoid flash..
[02:16] <holstein> https://www.youtube.com/html5
[02:17] <holstein> !info pepperflash-plugin-nonfree
[02:17] <Smashcat> Hi, is there a way to change the IP address only of a machine that has its network interface configured by DHCP. So after getting a lease, change the IP address?
[02:17] <holstein> !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[02:17] <jay_> I'm testing out the html5 right now
[02:17] <jay_> brb
[02:18] <holstein> jay_: you would have the same issue on an older version of windows, or osx, where adobe has dropped suuport
[02:20] <jay_> holstein, html5 didn't work well. i appreciate the suggestions but it was choppy even at 360p! and no videos i went to had the option of 720? weird..
[02:20] <holstein> jay_: sure. so, you can try the *actual* current flash version provided by adobe for linux in chrome or chromium
[02:21] <jay_> when you say chrome flash, do you mean the flash from the Lubuntu software manager?
[02:21] <holstein> jay_: be sure you lte adobe know you would like more "native" access to the product they create
[02:21] <holstein> jay_: i mean, factually, you can visit https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ and see what you are running
[02:21] <jay_> how can you blame adobe? it runs perfectly on puppy linux
[02:22] <holstein> jay_: im not trying to "blame" anyone.. its their product.. and up to them to provide support, and they have stopped
[02:22] <ShadowKnight> sorry to bother but hmm...can anyone actually see me? i seem to be having some issues
[02:22] <jay_> but like i said, it runs well on another linux distro
[02:22] <holstein> jay_: adobe provides security updates for 11.2 only.. i use 14 with chrome and you can as well if you find that helpful
[02:22] <holstein> jay_: sure.. it runs well here in lubuntu
[02:23] <holstein> jay_: we can configure it to work well.. are you interested?
[02:23] <holstein> ShadowKnight: i see you
[02:23] <jay_> holstein, do you get flash from the Software Center or from the Adobe website?
[02:23] <holstein> jay_: neither
[02:23] <holstein> jay_: i use the only factual current version for linux
[02:23] <jay_> i don't understand
[02:24] <jay_> factual current version?
[02:24] <holstein> jay_: i get it from the sources i keep linking.. they are for chrome only and chromium
[02:24] <holstein> jay_: correct.. adobe doesnt provide flash for linux anymore.. but, chrome gets their own from google
[02:24] <jay_> what's a factual current version?
[02:24] <jay_> so google made a flash player for chrome?
[02:24] <holstein> jay_: im saying, its a fact.. its not my opinion..
[02:25] <ShadowKnight> holstein: thanks
[02:25] <jay_> in linux i mean
[02:25] <holstein> jay_: its factually the only current version there is..
[02:26] <holstein> jay_: if you open a terminal, and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install chromium-browser && sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree" you should, if i didnt typo, have working flash in the chromium browser. which you can see what version you are using here.. https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[02:26] <jay_> how did you get the flash player? did it just come with chrome in the package?
[02:27] <holstein> jay_: it is included in the chrome browser. and you can use it with the package i refercence a few times above.. "pepperflashplugin-nonfree"... you can use it that way with the chromium browser
[02:27] <jay_> jesus, how do you know what all that means holstein? where do you even do to learn all those command terminal things?
[02:27] <Quoexl> practice my young padawan
[02:28] <holstein> jay_: you dont have to learn the commands.. there are other ways.. but, this is from necessity.. adobe is welcome to provide you an easier way.. a package like they make for windows, for example
[02:29] <jay_> have you ever wanted to throw your linux pc at the wall or ground?
[02:29] <ShadowKnight> jay_: all the time
[02:29] <holstein> jay_: no.. i want to throw *all* computers like that
[02:29] <Quoexl> on a regular basis
[02:30] <jay_> i feel this way lol it's soooo much to learn. if i had money. tell ya what i'd do. go down town and buy a windows 7 pc or two..  lol jk
[02:30] <ShadowKnight> jay_: you just install 14.04?
[02:30] <Quoexl> jay_: I'm assuming you are too young to have ever used dos
[02:30] <jay_> what's 14.04i'm 30
[02:30] <jay_> sorry
[02:30] <joey_> test
[02:30] <jay_> I'm 30. no dos here
[02:30] <ShadowKnight> Quoexl: your never too young to use DOS, im 16 and iv used it
[02:31] <Quoexl> and you and 3 other people on the planet
[02:31] <ShadowKnight> jay_: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[02:31] <jay_> Lubuntu
[02:31] <jay_> dunno how to tell the version. I just updated about a half an hour ago
[02:31] <kdeder> will there ever be a Mubuntu? :)
[02:32] <jay_> through the Softwarew Updater
[02:32] <kdeder> I haven't looked at Lubuntu for a while but Xubuntu looked good
[02:32] <ShadowKnight> jay_: follow this: http://howtoubuntu.org/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr
[02:32] <ShadowKnight> its really helpful
[02:32] <Quoexl> jay_: open terminal and type lsb_release -a
[02:34] <jay_> I'm not trying to be negetive, just real here. I'm just saying. All ten of those things you wouldn't have to waste your time doing in windows. It's automatic. Why isn't Linux there?
[02:34] <jay_> It's just mind blowing how technical you have to be to use linux on an older pc
[02:35] <ShadowKnight> jay_: your very right, but many Linux users want to have as light as possible an OS then customize it
[02:35] <jay_> I want a light OS and to leave it there
[02:35] <jay_> I just download movie and tv shows, surf the web and that's about it really
[02:35] <jay_> I don't need fancy crap
[02:35] <ShadowKnight> jay_: but i agree with you, there should be a version that comes with everything you need out of the box and so you dont have to fiddle and get all technical
[02:35] <jay_> this should be simple
[02:36] <Quoexl> you want a light windowed os, install fluxbox and xdm
[02:36] <jay_> will i still be able to talk to the nice people in here from fluxbox?
[02:37] <Quoexl> you'll need to install an irc client
[02:37] <ShadowKnight> jay_: sure just use CIRC on chrome
[02:37] <jay_> oh cool
[02:37] <ShadowKnight> {cough} puppy linux {cough}
[02:37] <Quoexl> fluxbox is about as basic as it gets
[02:37] <jay_> i tried puppy linux and liked it
[02:37] <jay_> it wouldn't install to my hdd though
[02:37] <jimbohertz> test
[02:37] <somsip> jay_: basically, install the minimal ubuntu, then put whatever desktop you want on top. openbox/fluxbox are very popular for light usage
[02:37] <Quoexl> you could install DSL but thats fairly useless
[02:37] <holstein> use puppy then.. you dont install it. thats the catch.. its not like that. its not a full distro
[02:37] <ShadowKnight> its pretty good on older mechines, on new ones its...ewww
[02:37] <jay_> it kept saying it couldn't find my kernal?
[02:38] <Quoexl> its kernel and what was the actual error statement?
[02:38] <holstein> i say, puppy is nice, bit not a good beginners setup.. and its a bit "frozen" in the past with updates.. some important ones..
[02:38] <jay_> fluxbox is a ubuntu install somsip?
[02:38] <somsip> !info fluxbox | jay_
[02:38] <Quoexl> sudo apt-get install fluxbox xdm
[02:38] <ShadowKnight> jay_: Try Linux Mint, its similar to windows and less finicky than ubuntu
[02:38] <holstein> i dont suggest fluxbox for a new user either.. i think lxde is as light as i get..
[02:39] <somsip> !minimal | jay_
[02:39] <Quoexl> I usually send new users to kde
[02:39] <jay_> what was that? !info thing?
[02:39] <holstein> i do not agree that mint is "less finiky". and not that because its not supported here..
[02:39] <holstein> ^kde has a nice windows-y feel.. but, it might be too heavy on your hardware
[02:40] <somsip> jay_: so when you install minimal, you only get the bare minimum packages and no bloat. Then you install fluxbox (or lxdm, or whatever) on top and you have a minimal, working, graphical front-end on a bloat-free install
[02:40] <ShadowKnight> holstein: is was for me, i only use ubuntu cause i was fed up with windows and wanted a second OS, than windows killed itself so im stuck
[02:40] <somsip> !brain | jay_ (regarding the !info thing)
[02:41] <ShadowKnight> you gotta be carefull bout installing front-ends like KDE though cuz getting rid of them if you dont like em seems to require ripping apart your entire OS and its still never the same
[02:41] <jay_> ohhh neat. a program and gives out info to people so you don't have to retype things a million type
[02:42] <omi_> Beldar: holstein thanks for the help.., the dist-upgrade command solved the problem, now I can install things here..,
[02:42] <holstein> ^ thats why i suggest trying the live CD's.. try kubuntu live... experiement live, and dont change your system
[02:42] <jay_> holstein, you seem to be a big ubuntu fan. do you think i should go to fluxbox? why are you so big on ubuntu for an old pc
[02:43] <ShadowKnight> maybe im wrong but isnt fluxbox a front-end for ubuntu? or an ubuntu varient?
[02:43] <jay_> holstein, what program do you use for "live cd's" on a USB stick?
[02:43] <holstein> jay_: as i said, for  a new user, i personally think fluxbox is not ideal.. i think lxde is as light as i would suggest.. but, it really depends, and you should check them out and decide for yourself
[02:43] <somsip> ShadowKnight: fluxbox is a windown manager
[02:43] <ShadowKnight> somsip: ooops,  my mistake
[02:44] <jay_> oh. i thought fluxbox was a distrobution
[02:44] <ShadowKnight> nope
[02:44] <holstein> lxde can be using openbox, which is similarly light
[02:44] <Quoexl> no fluxbox is a front end for the xserver
[02:44] <jay_> and openbox is a distro of ubuntu?
[02:44] <holstein> if you are on a machine, and not happy with lxde, you are likely not going to find anything that really runs much "faster"..
[02:44] <somsip> jay_: no, which is why I suggest the minimal install for using WMs that are not an official flavour (like kubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu)
[02:44] <Foxhoundz> I installed php5-mcrypt
[02:44] <Foxhoundz> but for some reason it's not being loaded
[02:44] <somsip> Foxhoundz: you need to add the symlink manually
[02:45] <Foxhoundz> somsip: where is the mcrypt library located in Ubuntu?
[02:45] <ShadowKnight> y'all need to remember jay_ probably doesnt know what xserver, window managers, front-ends, etc. are
[02:45] <Quoexl> Foxhoundz: check php.ini to see if its turned on
[02:45] <holstein> jay_: and, im not disagreeing with somsip .. that *is* a great way to get exactly what you want, and only what you want.. its just that you dont know what that is yet...
[02:45] <Foxhoundz> Quoexl: I checked and it's not. It's commented out
[02:45] <somsip> Foxhoundz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/450825/ubuntu-14-04-phpmyadmin-cant-find-mcrypt-extension
[02:45] <jay_> your right ShadowKnight
[02:45] <jay_> i don't know what those things are
[02:45] <Quoexl> Foxhoundz: well if its not turned on, even if its installed, will it work?
[02:46] <holstein> jay_: but, you can see many of them in live CD's.. and get away with instaling and trying them in live CD's
[02:46] <somsip> Foxhoundz: if this is 14.04, see the above. You don't add them in php.ini anymore. You use /etc/php5/conf.d
[02:46] <ShadowKnight> jay_: same thing happened when i first went to linux, i asked for help and got swamped with tech-talk
[02:46] <ShadowKnight> holstein: did you explain what a live CD is?
[02:46] <Quoexl> well crud,. yeah listen to him, I
[02:46] <Quoexl> m stuck in the stone age
[02:46] <holstein> ShadowKnight: feel free...
[02:48] <Foxhoundz> somsip: there is no directory called conf.d under /etc/php5
[02:48] <Foxhoundz> i'm on 14.04
[02:48] <Foxhoundz> aha
[02:48] <Foxhoundz> I found it
[02:51] <Foxhoundz> it was under /usr/lib
[02:51] <somsip> jay_: ubuntu is the OS and the packaging system. By default, the desktop version uses Unity as the window manager. You can also install other flavours of ubuntu that come with different window managers. Like lubuntu uses lxde, kubuntu uses kde.
[02:51] <holstein> !flavors > jay_
[02:51] <somsip> Foxhoundz: you shouldn't need the path if you follow that link I gave you
[02:51] <jay_> lxde kde and gnome are all just window managers?
[02:51] <ShadowKnight> jay_: window managers are the background programs that detemine how the desktop, windows, etc, work
[02:51] <ShadowKnight> jay_: yes
[02:51] <somsip> jay_: essentially, though because they do a bit more they are also referred to as Desktop Environments (DEs)
[02:51] <villandra> I'm installing Kubuntu, and I missed one detail when I took notes on how to set up the partitions.  I'm planning to install more Linux OS's on the disk.  Does the boot loader go in the boot partition or in /dev/sda?
[02:51] <somsip> jay_: so Gnome is very much a DE, wheres fluxbox just manages windows so it's just a WM
[02:51] <jay_> What's the difference between and Windows Manager and a Desktop Environment?
[02:51] <Quoexl> windows managers load desktop environments
[02:51] <jay_> How do I check a private message?
[02:51] <somsip> jay_: http://is.gd/CGnro6
[02:51] <Quoexl> left side red letters
[02:52] <ShadowKnight> jay_: there is litle difference you will notice, beyond the fact that DEs make more changes
[02:53] <villandra> I need to know where to install the boot loader - in /dev/sda or in the boot partition.
[02:53] <Quoexl> boot
[02:53] <ShadowKnight> villandra: i believe its boot
[02:53] <villandra> Even if I'm going to install more Linux OSs?
[02:53] <Quoexl> they will feed off the original grub install
[02:53] <villandra> Will each Linux OS get its own boot partition or do I only make one boot partition for all the OS's?
[02:54] <ShadowKnight> one for all
[02:54] <villandra> So only one boot partition for all the OS's?
[02:54] <Bashing-om> villandra: Install the boot loader - grub - to 'sda' IF you only have the 1 HD installed in the box.
[02:54] <villandra> So don't put the boot loader in /boot.
[02:54] <Beldar> omi_, Good, fixed, enjoy.
[02:56] <ShadowKnight> jay_: got a handle on it now?
[02:56] <jay_> not really ShadowKnight lol
[02:57] <ShadowKnight> jay_: lol, PM me with any more questions, ill help as best i can
[02:57] <Bashing-om> villandra: While one may have a seperate /boot partition, that practice is discouraged. Generally a very needless complication and a source of trouble for those unaware.
[02:58] <jay_> can someone explain exacly what I und what's needed for a linux OS install? I mean be brief. Here's my understanding. Turn on PC. After the BOIS checks hardware, you need a bootable CD or USB stick with an OS on it. then what?
[02:58] <ShadowKnight> hay_: ill PM you with the answer
[02:58] <jay_> ok thanks
[02:58] <Quoexl> jay_: if not him I'll help
[02:58] <villandra> So I remove the /boot partition and just put the boot loader in /dev/sda?  Because that seems to be what the Ubuntu install manual is saying to do.
[02:59] <Quoexl> do NOT remove the /boot
[02:59] <Quoexl> go through the install and at the end it will ask you if you want to install to the master boot record, say YES
[03:00] <villandra> Leave the /boot, even though its only function is to caluse trouble, but put the boot loader in /dev/sda?  I am planning to install more Linux OS's.   Ubuntu install manual says if installing multiple Linux OS's they will boot off the boot laoder.
[03:00] <Bashing-om> villandra: ^^, if you have already committed with a /boot partition .. Go ahead. Learning to deal with it is a learning curve.
[03:00] <Quoexl> it will detect grub and add the new linux partition to it
[03:00] <villandra> I'm doing manual preparing partitions, since I'm going to install more OS's on this hard drive.   It wants to know on what device I want to put the boot loader installation.
[03:01] <villandra> Nothing else is installed on this hard drive so far.
[03:01] <Quoexl> master boot record
[03:01] <Quoexl> or /dev/sda1
[03:01] <villandra> It isn't committed yet. I can still undo the boot partition.
[03:02] <Quoexl> I set 1 partition for / 1 partition for /home and one for swap
[03:02] <villandra> Is the mbr on /dev/sda or on /dev/sda1?
[03:02] <Bashing-om> villandra: Are you installing using the standard install wizard to do the partitioning ? OR have you previosly set up partitions to install onto ?
[03:02] <Quoexl> ,,, /dev/sda/
[03:02] <villandra> I'm starting fresh with a new hard drive.  I'm installing kubuntu, and setting up partitions manually since I'm going to install more Linux OS's and don't want it to use the whole hard drive.
[03:03] <villandra> I'm in the middle of preparing partitions.  So if the /boot partition doesn't belong I can undo it.
[03:03] <Quoexl> use manual partition and make your sizes smaller than the whole drive
[03:03] <Quoexl> you dont need a /boot partition
[03:03] <Bashing-om> villandra: MBR is the 1st sector on the hard drive NOT related to any partition - it is the 1st 512 bytes on the disk.
[03:04] <villandra> OOOKay.  Oh, OK.  I don't need any /boot partitions, undo it, start over, boot loader will go in /dev/sda.
[03:04] <villandra> OK.  I know that's true in Windows.  I thought Linux doesn't use MBR, uses GRUB.
[03:04] <Bashing-om> villandra: Correct ! no /boot, install grub to 'sda' .. and all will go fine.
[03:05] <villandra> And I'm not actually sure if the boot loader is in the boot sector or in the operating system.
[03:05] <Quoexl> if you load grub in the mbr its same same
[03:05] <villandra> Alright.  Think I've got it.  Tahnks!
[03:05] <villandra> quit
[03:05] <Quoexl> we'll be here
[03:06] <Bashing-om> villandra: MBR = Master Boot Record. Which is the location of the 1st stage of the booting code, the location where bios hands of to.
[03:06] <Quoexl> he's gone
[03:06] <Bashing-om> too late .. hasty huh ?
[03:06] <Quoexl> swing....and a miss
[03:07] <Bashing-om> Quoexl: I bet we see that worthy self again, soon !.
[03:07] <Quoexl> I been fiddling with voice/video chat servers as of late, anyone got some knowhow?
[03:08] <Quoexl> Bashing-om: or he breaks it beyond repair
[03:08] <ponchos> did justin bieber see selena gomez naked?
[03:08] <ponchos> !ops | did justin bieber see selena gomez naked?
[03:09] <Quoexl> rut roh rorge
[03:09] <ponchos> !ops | did justin bieber see selena gomez naked?
[03:09] <ponchos> !ops | did justin bieber see selena gomez naked??
[03:09] <Gallomimia> Quoexl: i been fiddling with mumble servers lately. don't know much about video chat
[03:09] <ponchos> !staff
[03:10] <Gallomimia> "requested"
[03:10] <Bashing-om> Quoexl: That in and of it's self ( breaking the OS) is not a bad thing ... When 1st introduced to 'buntu, i learned a lot ! ( There are still those time I break it ).
[03:10] <xpistos> Hey All. I need help desperately. I have a 2 tb drive that had family movies and other things on it and I am afraid the drive may now be bad.
[03:10] <sydney> IdleOne: Thank you. :D
[03:10] <xpistos> can someone help me figure out what might be wrong and if I can save it?
[03:10] <Gallomimia> whats so bad about the drive
[03:11] <xpistos> Gallomimia: when I boot the computer it said the drive had serious issues
[03:11] <Quoexl> I found myself needing to be a sysadmin in april 2006, I hadnt seen linux in feb of 2006, I passed and got the job
[03:11] <xpistos> and it did not show the drive as mounted.
[03:11] <Gallomimia> can you read the files?
[03:11] <xpistos> no
[03:11] <Quoexl> epic fail
[03:11] <Gallomimia> sounds worthy of investigating further
[03:11] <entreri> hello, where can I find the wallpapers included in Ubuntu ?
[03:11] <Quoexl> fsck sounds like its on the menu
[03:12] <sydney> !details| xpistos
[03:12] <Gallomimia> you're running an operating system right
[03:12] <xpistos> yes
[03:12] <Gallomimia> perhaps that operating system has tools to repair disks. you could run a smart test or fsck on it
[03:12] <Quoexl> what is the operating system, the system that you are operating?
[03:12] <xpistos> I am running badblocks -v now to see what it tells me
[03:12] <sydney> entreri: Look it up online? I dont know if there is an official spot to find them. :-/
[03:12] <xpistos> so far nothing
[03:13] <Quoexl> chuck the HD in the bin and get another
[03:13] <Gallomimia> he wants data from it obviously
[03:13] <xpistos> Mainly family movies and pictures
[03:13] <Gallomimia> but yes, expect to need a replacement hard drive
[03:13] <entreri> sydney: they should be somewhere under /
[03:13] <Gallomimia> preferably before you manage to recover the drive to readable state. you know... some place to put the data once recovered?
[03:13] <xpistos> I have one I can transfer to
[03:13] <Gallomimia> excellent
[03:14] <sydney> entreri: Ahh,you mean that way. :D
[03:14] <Gallomimia> in future, refer to this as your "back up drive"
[03:14] <Gallomimia> important files shall be "backed up" to it.
[03:14] <Gallomimia> instead of leaving it empty
[03:14] <Gallomimia> :D
[03:14] <Gallomimia> now, read about fsck that's a good way to fix a drive that's messed up
[03:15] <xpistos> should I stop the badblocks from running?
[03:15] <Gallomimia> then run SMART tests on it and see if anything is messed up
[03:15] <Quoexl> I would suggest putting a new drive in, do a fresh install, install and run photorec and hope for the best
[03:15] <xpistos> the drive that is the problem does not have the os on it
[03:15] <Gallomimia> i guess. i don't know what that is, but i think it merely searches for bad blocks, and marks them as unusable
[03:15] <xpistos> it is a storage drive.
[03:15] <xpistos> the box is up and running fine
[03:16] <Gallomimia> does nothing for recovering files
[03:16] <Quoexl> ok install photorec and run it on the data drive
[03:16] <Gallomimia> anyone else know what "badblocks" does?
[03:16] <xpistos> I was told that it looks for errors
[03:16] <Quoexl> !info badblocks
[03:16] <xpistos> this is a ways back though
[03:16] <sydney> entreri: /usr/share/backgrounds
[03:16] <Gallomimia> before we recommend running all this io intensive stuff on it, i think discovering whats wrong with the drive is better
[03:16] <Quoexl> !badblocks
[03:17] <Gallomimia> i think smart tests is best
[03:17] <Gallomimia> to start
[03:17] <Gallomimia> why is the drive hooped?
[03:17] <Gallomimia> did you turn it off while writing to it?
[03:17] <eduorloff> hi
[03:17] <Quoexl> honestly I would remove the drive, put it in a ziploc bag and toss it in the freezer for an hour, then take 1 swing at retrieval
[03:17] <entreri> sydney: thank you! I tried with 'find' and there are too many results : P
[03:17] <xpistos> no. it showed the folders were read only and so I rebooted the system to see what was wrong
[03:17] <Quoexl> then add |more to the end of your find
[03:17] <xpistos> and if it would correct it.
[03:18] <Gallomimia> we don't even know that's why it failed quoexl
[03:18] <sydney> entreri: No problem :D
[03:18] <Quoexl> no prob
[03:18] <Quoexl> ls
[03:18] <Gallomimia> do smart tests in the disks program
[03:18] <xpistos> run smart tests. What can I look for on how to do that
[03:19] <Gallomimia> you're running ubuntu right?
[03:19] <xpistos> yes
[03:19] <Gallomimia> run the program called disks
[03:19] <Gallomimia> its graphical
[03:20] <xpistos> be right back!
[03:22] <xpistos_tower> ok. I am on the box with the trouble hdd and have "disks:" open
[03:22] <Quoexl> any odds on how long it takes him to get back?
[03:23] <Quoexl> I'm not your guy xpistos, I go straight to the extreme
[03:23] <sydney> xpistos What version of ubuntu you running?
[03:24] <xpistos_tower> gall
[03:24] <xpistos_tower> Gallomimia: do I run a selftest
[03:24] <Gaming4JC> So I have a complex and stupid error I made. (dd'ing to the wrong drive by the infamous disk destroyer) - instead of making a live usb I blasted away my Windows 7 NTS partition! TestDisk can't recover it. However it only overwrote 436MB of the 150GB partition. Is there anyway to recover the data? I can see most of it is still there even though nothing can "see" the partition table
[03:24] <holstein> xpistos_tower: you should be able to do a test there.. smart test
[03:24] <Quoexl> sudo lsb_release -a
[03:24] <holstein> xpistos_tower: i run the longest test there.. this is not a "fix" .. its a way for you to test the drive
[03:25] <ShadowKnight> maybe this is not the smartest thing but...recuva by piriform?
[03:25] <xpistos_tower> I ran a short and it says the disk is ok and has 1443 bad sectors
[03:25] <Quoexl> photorec is very effective
[03:25] <holstein> xpistos_tower: thats a lot..
[03:25] <xpistos_tower> oh wait, it is still running I think
[03:25] <Quoexl> freezer then photorec is better
[03:25] <xpistos_tower> holstein: it is a 2tb drive if that means anything
[03:25] <Gaming4JC> ShadowKnight: Recuva was completely lost unfortunately. I was running it from the old Hiren's Boot CD :P
[03:25] <holstein> xpistos_tower: i run the long test..
[03:25] <luckybunny> hmmm. Unity/Compiz issue... Every time I open a new window, it appears with its title bar obscured by the unity panel, i.e pops up underneath the panel. Is there a way to prevent that so all new windows will open clear of the panel?
[03:25] <xpistos_tower> extended?
[03:25] <Quoexl> it means its still under warranty I bet
[03:26] <Gaming4JC> or perhaps two people are having HDD problems tonight :s
[03:26] <ShadowKnight> Gaming4JC: nope its still up: https://www.piriform.com/recuva
[03:26] <luckybunny> just rather difficult to minimise/maximise/close when you have a panel covering the buttons to do so
[03:27] <xpistos_tower> 50% done
[03:27] <ShadowKnight> luckybunny: you could always assign keyboard shortcuts (its not the best fix but it might work)
[03:27] <xpistos_tower> 80%
[03:27] <Quoexl> I recommend a large hammer
[03:27] <ShadowKnight> Quoexl: LOL
[03:28] <Quoexl> les encourage les otres
[03:28] <holstein> luckybunny: you can try resetting your unity to default.. is this behavior present in the guest session?
[03:28] <Gaming4JC> My problem is primarily that dd installed a CD into my Windows 7 partition :P | fdisk says: Partition 1: overlaps partition 2.
[03:28] <Gaming4JC> surely fixable though
[03:28] <luckybunny> I have no clue
[03:28]  * Gaming4JC continues to duckduckgo
[03:28] <Quoexl> they said I cant use the "gnome" word anymore
[03:28] <holstein> luckybunny: i can wait while you confirm..
[03:29] <xpistos_tower> Gallomimia: I think it is finishing up the short self test
[03:29] <xpistos_tower> 10% remaining
[03:29] <holstein> xpistos_tower: no need for that..
[03:29] <luckybunny> it's ok.. I'm in a bit of a hurry to get to sleep, as it's half 4 in the morning. Was hoping for a quick settings change. Don't feel like logging out and back
[03:30] <luckybunny> also alt+f4 will cover me for closing
[03:30] <luckybunny> and I can always drag things out from under the launcher. no hardship really
[03:30] <Quoexl> I have a hate/hate relationship with unity
[03:31] <Quoexl> welcome back jay_
[03:31] <ShadowKnight> unity is pretty, its compiz i hate
[03:31] <holstein> Quoexl: use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel to chat about unity
[03:31] <jay__> thanks man
[03:31] <Quoexl> just change to unity without compiz at login ShadowKnight
[03:32] <xpistos_tower> I ran dmesg | tail about 10 minutes ago and got the following: http://pastebin.com/Ai6G970T
[03:32] <holstein> luckybunny: if you find the desktop works as expected in the guest session, you can use http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html to reset your users config
[03:32] <ShadowKnight> Quoexl: not sure how, but i aint gonna mess, it works...for now
[03:32] <Gaming4JC> Better stated for my question: Is anyone familiar with using sfdisk without a partition table backup? :)
[03:33] <xpistos_tower> holstein: should I run the extended when the short test is done? I would have thought it would finish by now. It has been on 10% remaining for a while.
[03:34] <ShadowKnight> xpistos_tower: that is a sign of drive error/fault
[03:34] <holstein> xpistos_tower: depends.. this is not a fix.. its a way you can learn about your hardware and what state it is in
[03:34] <holstein> i agree, i would expect it to hang if it were failing..
[03:35] <xpistos_tower> At this point, if I could get it to read-only I would be happy
[03:35] <ShadowKnight> is it an SDD"
[03:35] <ShadowKnight> ?
[03:35] <xpistos_tower> no it is a hdd
[03:35] <xpistos_tower> western digital 2tb green drive I think
[03:35] <xpistos_tower> wd20ears
[03:35] <holstein> xpistos_tower: you can have a limited amount of time with it.. you might consider planning your steps wisely
[03:35] <ShadowKnight> ok, i would suggest trying Recuva running off a USB drive, noy sure if it will work though
[03:36] <xpistos_tower> my main concern is family stuff and my wife's school items
[03:36] <holstein> testdisk is about as good as it gets..
[03:36] <xpistos_tower> ok. what is testdisk
[03:36] <oliver__> Hi everyone.
[03:36] <holstein> !testdisk
[03:36] <rsw> hi oliver__
[03:36] <holstein> !info testdisk
[03:37] <oliver__> I just installed a linux operating system(ubuntu) for the first time
[03:37] <Bashing-om> xpistos_tower: ^^ see also : http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/Menu_Analyse .
[03:37] <oliver__> It looks great!
[03:37] <oliver__> Who do I thank?
[03:38] <ShadowKnight> oliver_: welcome to the family
[03:38] <xpistos_tower> so should I install testdisk now?
[03:38] <oliver__> Am I allowed to talk here?
[03:38] <oliver__> Ty
[03:38] <xpistos_tower> apt-get install testdisk?
[03:38] <Gaming4JC> !ask | oliver__
[03:38] <Ben64> oliver__: this channel is for support, if you want to chat with other ubuntu peoples, head over to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:39] <holstein> xpistos_tower: its not trivial.. i mean, as i said, you can have a limited amount of time with the drive.. you can pay someone literally $400 + us to recover data, and not get data
[03:39] <ShadowKnight> oliver_: this room is mostly for support go to #ubuntu-offtopic for all else
[03:39] <Bashing-om> xpistos_tower: Yes on the install .. instructions: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step , for usage.
[03:39]  * Gaming4JC needs help with sfdisk
[03:39] <Gaming4JC> :p
[03:39] <rsw> hey thanks, i didn't know that either ShadowKnight ubottu Ben64
[03:39] <ShadowKnight> no prob, rsw
[03:39] <holstein> xpistos_tower: its a handy tool.. but data recovery is not trivial http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[03:39] <Ben64> xpistos_tower: you should make a copy using ddrescue right away
[03:40] <xpistos_tower> Ben64: what is ddrescue?
[03:40]  * holstein +1 on copy ^
[03:40] <la> OL
[03:40] <la> LOL
[03:40] <holstein> then, you can spend time with the copy
[03:40] <la> :/
[03:40] <la> ---------------
[03:40] <la>  
[03:41] <la>  
[03:41] <la>  
[03:41] <Gaming4JC> fl00d.
[03:41] <Ben64> xpistos_tower: ddrescue is like dd, but with additional capabilities for bad drives. it makes a bit by bit copy of a file/filesystem/block device/whatever
[03:41] <Gaming4JC> :|
[03:41] <Ben64> la: stop.
[03:41] <xpistos_tower> if I don't have another 2 tb drive I can't use that right?
[03:41] <alexw> I am always connecting to numerous SSH servers - getting sick of remembering the string
[03:41] <Ben64> xpistos_tower: you'd need 2TB of space, yes
[03:41] <holstein> xpistos_tower: if you *ReallY* want the data, you will go buy one
[03:41] <alexw> Is there way I can do, "ssh home" or something?
[03:41] <xpistos_tower> then should I shut down the drive and dis connect it for now
[03:41] <Ben64> xpistos_tower: yes
[03:41] <somsip> alexw: use .ssh/config to setup aliases
[03:41] <MEI> Q MIERDA
[03:42] <MEI> ??
[03:42] <MEI> ¡??
[03:42] <Gaming4JC> !es | MEI
[03:42] <Ben64> MEI: stop spamming
[03:42] <xpistos> I shut it down now
[03:42] <alexw> somsip cheers :)
[03:42] <xpistos> and will disconnect the drive. Should I put it in the freezer for now as well or not yet
[03:42] <Ben64> xpistos: every second you waste could mean less data you can recover
[03:42] <MEIy> inglish??
[03:42] <Ben64> xpistos: i wouldn't
[03:43] <xpistos> Ben64: every second or every second the drive it on
[03:43] <Ben64> MEIy: do you have a support question? if so, ask it.
[03:43] <MEIy> hello
[03:43] <MEIy> no
[03:43] <xpistos> Ben64: if I take the drive out now and sit it on my shelf will it be okay if I wait a day or so?
[03:43] <Ben64> MEIy: then be quiet please, or you can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:43] <MEIy> I am argentina
[03:43] <Ben64> xpistos: yes that will be fine
[03:44] <xpistos> Ben64: I really apprciate the help guys
[03:44] <Gaming4JC> MEIy: try #ubuntu-es (spanish language)
[03:44] <xpistos> holstein: you and Gallomimia as well!
[03:44] <MEIy> yes
[03:44] <Ben64> xpistos: but yeah, you want to ddrescue first, then you can use testdisk or whatever on the image created by ddrescue
[03:45] <Gaming4JC> Ben64: the problem with ddrescue is how do you backup a 1TB drive to an image without having another 1 or 2TB drive ? :p
[03:45] <MEIy> >:
[03:45] <holstein> Gaming4JC: you go get one.. if you are really wanting the data.. you'll have a place for a backup
[03:45] <Ben64> Gaming4JC: yeah, you don't
[03:45] <Gaming4JC> ic
[03:45] <xpistos> and i obviously don't want a usb drive correct?
[03:45] <MEIy> :( inglish no :(
[03:46] <xpistos> cause it would copy too slowly
[03:46] <Ben64> xpistos: yeah it'
[03:46] <Ben64> d be slow
[03:46] <holstein> xpistos: could be.. if you are ok with the speed
[03:46] <holstein> internal is likely faster and cheaper
[03:46] <Ben64> !es | MEIy
[03:47] <MEIy> #join
[03:47] <xpistos> my external may be 2 tb let me check
[03:47] <MEIy> bay+
[03:47] <Gaming4JC> Ben64: are you familiar with sfdisk?
[03:48] <Ben64> Gaming4JC: sure
[03:48] <andrew-ubuntu> Hey guys, I'm looking for a way to disable my laptops built in display on boot (before login). How is this possible on Ubuntu 14.04?
[03:49] <Gaming4JC> Ben64: cool. My problem was, I dd'ed away 460MB of my Windows 7 partition. TestDisk can't see my NTFS partition anymore. I know the files are still there since I can find them with grep and cat
[03:49] <Gaming4JC> Ben64: I'd like to try fixing the partition. ntfsfix couldn't handle it due too "Mounting volume... NTFS signature is missing."
[03:49] <Gaming4JC> :/
[03:49] <Ben64> Gaming4JC: probably a better question for ##windows actually
[03:49] <Gaming4JC> ok
[03:50] <ShadowKnight> andrew-ubuntu: try system settings/displays
[03:51] <andrew-ubuntu> ShadowKnight: The changes in system settings only take affect after login. I would like the monitor to be turned off sooner than that. I tried turning it off via rc.local, but it didn't seem to work.
[03:52] <ShadowKnight> andrew-ubuntu: sorry, thats a question to direct to someone wiser than I
[03:52] <xpistos> is it good or bad that the partition is an ext4
[03:52] <Ben64> xpistos: what do you mean
[03:53] <oliver__> I would like to know how to save the settings so I don't have to do it again every time I log on.
[03:54] <ShadowKnight> oliver_: are you running a live OS?
[03:54] <tanktops> Is there something i could install in ubuntu to allow me to use gestures on my touch screen to do stuff. Like scrolling down a web page?
[03:54] <oliver__> I have installed ubuntu 14.04 desktop 64-bit amd
[03:54] <oliver__> no more windows
[03:54] <ShadowKnight> then it should happen automatically...what isnt being saved?
[03:55] <oliver__> my mouse settings
[03:55] <xangua> tanktops: there is easystroke to make gestures with the mouse pointer, I would guess is the same in a touchscreen
[03:56] <tanktops> xangua: thanks
[03:56] <ShadowKnight> oliver_: changes should be saved automatically
[03:57] <oliver__> well.. they're not. When I reboot, I have to do it again...
[03:58] <rsw> hey, do someone know offhand if video still functions in uzbl, ubuntu 12.04?
[03:58] <xpistos> Ben64: I have 1.7 GB available on a seperate usb hdd
[03:58] <oliver__> I used the sudo command, and then it was working after I quit the terminal, but not after a reboot.
[03:58] <xpistos> Do we think this will do?
[03:59] <Ben64> oliver__: why sudo?
[03:59] <oliver__> I used the sudo command, and then the settings where saved after I quit the terminal, but not after a reboot.
[04:00] <xpistos> If I do the ddrescue does that actually copy my data?
[04:00] <oliver__> If i didn't use the sudo command, the settings went back to default right after I quit the terminal.
[04:01] <Ben64> oliver__: what is the actual command you're using
[04:01] <zelbinian> K... so... I updated from 13.10 to 14.04... and that did not go so well. Went to restart, and it hung and shutdown so I did a hard reset. Now it hangs on startup.
[04:01] <oliver__> "xset m 1/2 4"
[04:02] <Ben64> oliver__: yeah you should be setting that through the mouse settings applet in the system settings
[04:02] <oliver__> Yeah, I know, but its not there. Thats why I went looking for a workaround.
[04:04] <oliver__> so after I set the command, how do I save it so it becomes default from now on?
[04:04] <xpistos> Ben64: when i tried to do a mount -a earlier it would not mount the drive in question
[04:04] <xpistos> Ben64: will that matter with the ddrescue?
[04:05] <xpistos> Ben64: and is ddrescue a cd or a program on the system?
[04:05] <xpistos> Ben64: I was able to find a gddrescue which I am assuming is the same program
[04:08] <xpistos> holstein: Should I be okay with 1.7 tb to try the ddrescue
[04:09] <holstein> xpistos: i would make sure, the next time you power that drive up, you can image it
[04:09] <xpistos> holstein: What do you mean image it?
[04:10] <holstein> xpistos: make the copy you are talking about, that you want to work from
[04:10] <xpistos> if I image it is it like makeing an iso?
[04:10] <xpistos> or is it actually the file system
[04:10] <xpistos> so I can access the data
[04:10] <xpistos> from the new drive
[04:11] <holstein> xpistos: you can try and recover the data from the copy*
[04:11] <xpistos> so ddrescue is like a back up utility more or less
[04:12] <holstein> xpistos: its what has been suggested for you to make the copy
[04:12] <xpistos> holstein: ok so I will power up the tower and put the usb drive in mount it and then I can start the ddrescue
[04:13] <xpistos> holstein: now I just have to find the info on using ddrescue. or gddrescue I guess it is
[04:13] <holstein> xpistos: i say again, i would consider it time sensitive..
[04:15] <xpistos> I speak greek natively so I am not understanding what you mean. Are you saying that I should do the ddrescue as soon as possible
[04:15] <holstein> xpistos: no.. im saying, specificallly.. when you power that drive up, be ready to image..
[04:16] <xpistos> ok
[04:16] <holstein> xpistos: if you want to test on other hardware to learn, do so..
[04:16] <xpistos> understood.
[04:16] <xpistos> I think I will pull the drive out now, do a few tests and then come back to this later when I am a bit calmer
[04:16] <xpistos> holstein: Thank you for your help and patience
[04:17] <holstein> xpistos: good idea.. and good luck.. i know its frustrating..
[04:17] <xpistos> The worst part is I didn't realize I set the family movies and pictures to backup to that drive.
[04:17] <xpistos> I though I had it to a family drive
[04:18] <holstein> xpistos: dont lose hope yet. just take your time.. set up a practice scenario
[04:18]  * Bsims passes xpistos the bottle of adult beverage
[04:18] <ltdanno> lol yum
[04:18] <xpistos> Thanks Bsims!
[04:18] <xpistos> holstein: Is there a time that you are regularly on irc?
[04:19] <holstein> xpistos: not a typical thing.. im just off today. you can ping my anytime though.. or pm..
[04:19] <xpistos> thanks .. A LOT!
[04:20] <xpistos> holstein: OH, does the target drive have to empty? Will I lose data on the target?
[04:21] <holstein> xpistos: i would expect to lose the data on the target.. i would want it to be empty
[04:22] <xpistos> ok, then it will take me a bit longer. Let me go pull the suspect drive from the tower now just in case
[04:22] <xpistos> holstein: thanks again.
[04:25] <oliver__> If nobody can help me, just say so.
[04:26] <holstein> oliver__: i dont see your question..
[04:27] <xpistos> holstein: LOL. I have a few flash drives lying around I can try it with
[04:27] <oliver__> I posted 10 min ago
[04:27] <holstein> oliver__: whats your question?
[04:28] <holstein> xpistos: it wouldnt hurt... save some videos and pic.. format the drive, and try and recover the data..
[04:28] <oliver__> Saving the mouse speed settings
[04:29] <oliver__> I found this "xset m 1/2 4" and it seems to be just fine, but when I quit the terminal it goes back to default.
[04:29] <holstein> oliver__: i would address that in an xorg.conf probably
[04:29] <holstein> oliver__: you can always just set that command to run at boot, as well. thats pretty easy
[04:30] <superbob> hi all, im trying to confirm openssl 1.0.1c-4ubuntu8.2 has covered off CVE-2014-0224, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[04:30] <oliver__> it sure is, but can't i save the settings so it becomes default?
[04:31] <oliver__> I don't want to set the mouse speed settings everytime I log in, unless I have to.
[04:32] <holstein> oliver__: you can have the command run at boot..
[04:32] <holstein> oliver__: for all intents and purposes, you will get persistent settings.. its a win win..
[04:32] <loa> oliver__, gnome-session-properties
[04:33] <oliver__> I just installed a linux operating system(ubuntu) for the first time!
[04:33] <xpistos> holstein: should I format the two flash drives to ext4 or it doesn't matter
[04:33] <oliver__> Nice, ty, i will try
[04:33] <mars__> oliver__ gnaa?
[04:34] <holstein> xpistos: do what  the other is.. but, im saying to format *after* putting the data on, so that its effectively broken.. and try and recover the data after the format
[04:34] <mars__> How trust worthy is LUKS
[04:34] <mars__> Better then older truecrypt versions?
[04:35] <xpistos> holstein: the drive in my box is ext4 so I will format both of these to match then go through the test just a short one for tonight
[04:35] <holstein> xpistos: sounds great
[04:35] <oliver__> truecrypt isn't safe to use more, is it?
[04:35] <mars__> The developer responded in an email saying he just cant be asked to do it.
[04:35] <oliver__> ok what do I do after typing "gnome-session-properties"?
[04:35] <mars__> And the audit that was performed recently, said everything wa sgood
[04:35] <mars__> And the audit that was performed recently, said everything was good
[04:36] <Boohbah> oliver__: do a little dance
[04:36] <oliver__> done
[04:36] <oliver__> now what?
[04:37] <rsw> gnome-session-properties is for configuring startup services, right?
[04:37] <rsw> stuff that typically runs in the background / notification area
[04:38] <loa> oliver__, add your command there
[04:39] <rsw> well oliver__ i'd guess you click "add" and put your command in, name it and comment it in the way you like best
[04:39] <rsw> pretty much the only relevant field is "command"
[04:39] <fallore> Jordan_U, are you here?
[04:39] <oliver__> ty, i put "xset m 1/2 4"
[04:39] <oliver__> so is the setting saved now?
[04:41] <rsw> if you clicked the "add" button on the dialog you entered the command in, and see it in the list of the main gnome-session-properties screen
[04:42] <oliver__> where is the "add" button?
[04:42] <rsw> mine's got the dropbox tray icon and a network connection tool in it
[04:42] <rsw> it should have a green plus sign on it, right?
[04:43] <superbob> ubottu: that doesnt cover the question AFAIK, ubuntu wrap up minor releases into their own minor releases (terminology dubious)
[04:43] <superbob> ubottu:
[04:43] <superbob> pah!
[04:43] <oliver__> you mean in the terminal?
[04:44] <rsw> nah, in gnome-session-properties
[04:44] <rsw> it might say
[04:44] <rsw> "save" on yours.  excuse the accidental carriage return
[04:45] <oliver__> yeah, i went to "gnome-session-properties" then put the command.
[04:45] <oliver__> Theres no "add" or "save"
[04:45] <rsw> http://tinyurl.com/gnomesp   this is a screenshot
[04:45] <tortib> Hello everyone.  I'm trying to set iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.x.x/24 -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE in my /etc/iptables.rules config however when I use iptables-restore it says it cannot use the -t nat rule.  Why is that?
[04:46] <tortib> I could use /etc/rc.local I suppose but I would rather use /etc/iptables.rules
[04:46] <oliver__> you mean in the system settings or in the terminal?
[04:46] <fallore> I've got a question. I installed 14.04 earlier today, and when I boot it shows me the splash logo (or at least I think, the Ubuntu logo with the dots underneath) and then goes to a black screen. When I go into advanced options and boot to recovery mode, selecting resume in the menu, everything seems to work fine. Does anyone what I can do to make it boot properly outside of recovery mode?
[04:47] <rsw> im running an older version of ubuntu (12.04) and it looks different from that to me, and depending on the version you're running it might appear slightly different
[04:48] <rsw> its sufficient to say, if you exit gnome-session-properties and reopen it, and your entry is still in there, it prolly works
[04:48] <oliver__> yeah, but I might have the same conky start up, right?
[04:48] <oliver__> Thanks rsw
[04:49] <tortib> oh I see what I did wrong.
[04:49] <tortib> nm :)
[04:50] <oliver__> I think I found it. "Startup Applications Preferences"
[04:50] <oliver__> I see what you mean by "add" now, thanks
[04:51] <rsw> youre welcome
[04:53] <oliver__> ok, I will try and reboot and see if it runs the command at boot, see you
[04:58] <oliver__> It worked, thanks again rsw :)
[05:00] <Bashing-om> fallore: That sounds like there is no graphics driver loaded. What results if you boot from the grub boot menu with the "nomodeset" boot parameter ?
[05:01] <fallore> Bashing-om, I'm not sure how to do that
[05:01] <cowabunga> hi i need help. Can anybody create a patched sisimedia driver for ubuntu? Linux has opensource sis driver, but i borrowed from mageia...
[05:02] <Ad> Hi. how to config pfsense to allow internet using 3G modem
[05:02] <Bashing-om> fallore: Small steps gets there. When you boot, do you boot to the grub boot menu ? following advise follows.
[05:03] <Ad> Hi. how to config pfsense to allow internet using 3G modem
[05:04] <cartmanius> hello
[05:05] <Ad> Hi. how to config pfsense to allow internet using 3G modem
[05:05] <fallore> Bashing-om, i have to hold shift to get to the grub boot menu
[05:06] <fallore> sry i had to afk for a minute
[05:06] <bazhang> ad try ##pfsense
[05:07] <Ad> :bazhang , i try it but no one answer !!!!
[05:07] <bazhang> ad so be patient
[05:07] <Ad> :)
[05:10] <Bashing-om> fallore: True to hold shift with a single OS installed. At that grub menu with the top enty highlighted, 'e' key for edit mode -> boot options screen; arrow down and across to the terms "quiet splash" and add the term "nomodeset" - without the quotes - and key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process. Do you now boot to the GUI login -> desktop . Degraded graphics at this point is OK.
[05:18] <xpistos> holstein: are you still around?
[05:20] <fallore> Bashing-om, i don't see quiet splash anywhere i press e. earlier another user here had me edit a file and remove "quiet splash" from somewhere, but i'm no longer sure where exactly. could this change what i'd be looking for?
[05:20] <fallore> if i press *
[05:21] <histo> xpistos: you trying to recover data still?
[05:22] <xpistos> histo: I have the problem drive removed from the computer and am testing the ddresuce to learn how to use it
[05:22] <xpistos> histo: I was able to create an image from one disk to another and now I am trying to recover the image so I understand how it is supposed to wor
[05:23] <Bashing-om> fallore: This change will not persist through a reboot. If when you have the enty for ubuntu highlighted in the boot menu and press the 'e' key you do not change screens and in that alternate scrren is the linux boot line that in a default desktop install will have the terms quiet splash. you do not see thios line ?
[05:23] <Bashing-om> entry/enty*
[05:23] <histo> xpistos: did it finish creating the image?
[05:24] <xpistos> histo: yes. It was just a 3.5 gb flashdrive with some data on it
[05:24] <fallore> yes, i pressed e with ubuntu selected at the grub menu, and it took me to a text editor, but i don't see the lines quiet splash anywhere
[05:24] <xpistos> histo: the command I used was ddrescue -r 3 -S /dev/sdc1 image log
[05:24] <fallore> Bashing-om*
[05:25] <xpistos> now i just need to figure out how to restore the 'image' to a new location, drive etc
[05:26] <histo> xpistos: ddrescue image /dev/of/new/location
[05:26] <histo> xpistos: or you can just mount the image and copy the data out
[05:26] <xpistos> not sure how to mount the image?
[05:26] <xpistos> do i just do it like any other drive ?
[05:27] <histo> xpistos: fdisk -l image   to get the offset of the partitions
[05:27] <Bashing-om> fallore: Maybe you edited the file "/etc/default/grub ?? .. looking for a line similar to this presently "linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-24-generic root=UUID=dbd69ed2-530c-4409-8f5a-a3f1ea41fc67 ro quiet splash $vt_handoff" .
[05:28] <histo> xpistos: then mount -o loop,ro,offset=xxxx image /some/mountpoint
[05:28] <fallore> yes, that's the file i edited. i removed where it had quiet splash and it was left blank. i got disconnected from my internet before i could follow through on his instructions, i think we were just eliminating a possibility at that point
[05:28] <histo> xpistos: or you can just dd out the image to a device and get the files
[05:28] <fallore> i have a line similar to that, Bashing-om, but without quiet splash of course
[05:28] <xpistos> what is the offset?
[05:29] <histo> xpistos: the start of the partition on the device.
[05:30] <xpistos> histo: http://pastebin.com/48wtQ8B9
[05:30] <Bashing-om> fallore: OK, looking good then. After 'ro' add the term nomodeset. key combo ctl+x .
[05:30] <xpistos> histo: there is the output of the fdisk
[05:30] <sadpuppy> http://sourceforge.net/projects/xiaopanos/
[05:31] <sadpuppy> replaces backtrack or kali
[05:31] <xpistos> histo: would '0x6f20736b' be the offset?
[05:31] <bazhang> sadpuppy, thats offtopic here
[05:32] <histo> xpistos: no did this drive contain multiple partitions?
[05:32] <xpistos> no
[05:32] <xpistos> neither will the problem drive
[05:33] <histo> xpistos: parted print image1
[05:33] <histo> xpistos: does it show the same funky table with 4 partitions?
[05:33] <sadpuppy> linux  is off topic
[05:34] <oliver__> If I want the mouse to move faster using this command: "xset m 1/2 4" what do I change in the command?
[05:34] <xpistos> image1p1-image1p4
[05:34] <sadpuppy> odd
[05:34] <histo> xpistos: nvm i just read in scroll back that you imaged partition 1 on the drive.  so just mount -o loop,or image1 /to/some/directory
[05:35] <bazhang> sadpuppy, this is ubuntu support only, not chat about kali or something else. try #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[05:35] <celroc> sadpuppy: Well, this actually a channel specifically suited for Ubuntu linux instead of linux in general.  I believe the linux channel is ##linux
[05:35] <histo> xpistos: change my loop,or to loop,ro   so it will be mounted as a loop device with read only option
[05:36] <xpistos> it didn't lkike something
[05:36] <xpistos> http://pastebin.com/LrgNXpnN
[05:37] <Ben64> xpistos: no space before ro
[05:37] <xpistos> ok
[05:38] <xpistos> Nice!
[05:38] <e^0> which is the way to update ubuntu server ? apt-get update and than apt-get upgrade ?
[05:38] <xpistos> so now I know I can hopefully image the drive, then mount the image and copy files out of it
[05:39] <bazhang> e^0, same as any version, yes, but with sudo
[05:39] <Ben64> xpistos: if it is mountable, sure
[05:39] <xangua> e^0 that's the way to update and install security updates yes
[05:39] <xpistos> Ben64: Here's hoping when i get to that point.
[05:39] <e^0> OK :)
[05:39] <histo> xpistos: yeap. if you have issues with the drive you are working on like say the filesystem gets trashed you can try carving the image for files etc... either way the first step is creating a good image.
[05:39] <celroc> e^0: You may need to run "sudo apt-get get dist-upgrade" too to get new kernel updates and things
[05:39] <xpistos> Now I am going to format the test drive and then try and create the image
[05:40] <histo> xpistos: do you suspect mechanical issues?
[05:40] <e^0> do i need to log into root and do the updates too ?
[05:40] <histo> e^0: use sudo
[05:40] <bazhang> e^0, just sudo
[05:40] <histo> !root | e^0
[05:40] <xpistos> histo: the drive is a little more than three years old and the rest of the box seems to be running okay
[05:40] <LuiX> hello there, i'm trying to get some help regarding some boot issues. here's my pastebin on my last boot repair run: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7698617/. The problem is that i cannot properly boot windows because I cycle between "bootmgr" is missing (after running a win7 USB) and "0000xe" error (after a boot repair run)
[05:40] <celroc> e^0: Sorry, "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"  I meant.  Had one too many "get"s in there before
[05:41] <histo> xpistos: just curious as to why you are using ddrescue instead of dd?  typically you see ddrescue used if there are bad sectors etc...
[05:41] <xpistos> histo: oh the drive will not mount
[05:41] <Ben64> histo: because the drive is failing and dd doesn't resume and stuff
[05:41] <e^0> thank you guys for the info :)
[05:41] <histo> xpistos: k just making sure.
[05:41] <xpistos> histo: that is about right
[05:41] <histo> xpistos: you may want to consider imaging the drive and not the partition
[05:42] <jak2000> is possible know where a domain was registered? unifrut.com.mx (nic mexico or where?)  thanks
[05:42] <xpistos> when I run the ddrescue, I will use the /dev/sdd that will get the entire drive if I am correct
[05:42] <bazhang> try ##networking jak2000
[05:42] <histo> xpistos: yes you are correct. Here is  a page that explains mounting after you do that. http://www.andremiller.net/content/mounting-hard-disk-image-including-partitions-using-linux
[05:43] <xpistos> histo: It will be my new bible!
[05:43] <celroc> LuiX: Will it still boot into Linux?
[05:43] <xpistos> histo: Thanks alot!
[05:43] <xpistos> Ben64: thanks to you as well ... again.
[05:43] <histo> xpistos: basically if you image the whole drive you get all the bits. The partitions do not start at the begining of the disk so you have to use an offset to mount the partitions.
[05:44] <histo> xpistos: np anytime.  the reason your command didn't work above is that you had a space between loop and ro i believe.
[05:44] <LuiX> celroc, just after the boot repair from a liveCD, i can normally boot the linux partitions
[05:44] <xpistos> I fat fingered that
[05:45] <xpistos> if the drive dies in the middle of the image, will I get anything?
[05:45] <LuiX> celroc, but when selecting the windows from the grub menu, it gets another error, the "0000xce"
[05:46] <xpistos> here is a really dumb question. how do i unmount the image now when I am done?
[05:46] <celroc> LuiX: If you can get back into Ubuntu, you may want to try running "sudo grub install /dev/sda" (assuming you only have one disk) and then "sudo update grub" in a terminal.  This will sort of refresh the bootloader
[05:47] <xpistos> umount /mount location
[05:47] <LuiX> celroc, it seems like there's a problem betweem bcd and the system reserved boot partition (sda1 in the pastebin  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7698617/)
[05:47] <celroc> LuiX: I apologize, "sudo update-grub" with a hyphen.  I can't seem to type tonight
[05:48] <Bashing-om> fallore: How are you doing ? are you stuck ?
[05:49] <LuiX> celroc, what if i'm running from a livecd right now?
[05:49] <celroc> LuiX: I'm sorry, I'm actually confused, I think.  Do you know if you're using grub as your bootloader?
[05:51] <celroc> LuiX: It's definitely doable from the liveCD.  The guide here shows the basic procedure: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd but we might need to deviate from the examples a little because your partition numbers might be different from the examples
[05:53] <LuiX> celroc, i only now that after i run boot-repair from the livecd I reset and i have all the OSes, but the windows option gets to a windows failure screen that says "the boot selection failed because device is inaccessible".
[05:54] <celroc> LuiX: Huh.  Strange...  Is that after running update-grub ?
[05:55] <LuiX> celroc, because of that, i ran a windows USB and followed the instructions from a webpage that mannually repairs the issue
[05:56] <histo> xpistos: umount /mount/directory
[05:56] <LuiX> celroc, after running the windows usb i get the "BOOTMGR missing", which gets me to the starting point (having to run boot-repair)
[05:56] <xpistos> histo: thanks!
[05:56] <xpistos> now on to test two
[05:57] <LuiX> celroc, another detail. the origin of the windows error was that i tried to repair the boot with another livecd
[05:57] <celroc> LuiX: Hmm, alright... well, the first thing that's usually recommended for these kinds of things is reloading GRUB.  If you can boot into Ubuntu still, please try "sudo grub install /dev/sda" and "sudo update-grub"
[05:58] <e^0> what does this mean, when i boot into my ubuntu server it says " there is 1 zombie process "
[05:58] <LuiX> celroc, i think the boot repair does exactly that
[05:59] <LuiX> celroc, but i'll follow the instructions on the webpage that you sent anyways
[06:00] <LuiX> celroc, but my suspicions are that this is not a grub problem but the windows boot manager
[06:00] <ki7mt> e^0, a process that cannot be killed, you can't kill the dead, aka zombie process.
[06:00] <e^0> ki7mt: ok :)
[06:00] <celroc> LuiX: Oh... I see.  If that's the case, then I'm afraid that I don't have any experience fixing broken Windows boot managers.  I'm not sure I can help
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[06:02] <LuiX> celroc, from reading the http://paste.ubuntu.com/7698617/, would you say that the problem is that grub is not installed in the correct partition?
[06:03] <celroc> LuiX: Grub by default doesn't install itself to a partition as far as I'm aware.  It should attempt to install itself to the MBR of the hard disk unless otherwise specified
[06:04] <ki7mt> LuiX, Check out an app called EasyBCD, works pretty well, but you need to get into WinDoze first to install it, or have an EasyBSD recovery CD.
[06:04] <ki7mt> .. EasyBCD .. sri
[06:06] <Johnn514> rop
[06:06] <Johnn514> oops
[06:06] <Johnn514> hello
[06:08] <LuiX> ki7mt, and with that recovery cd, what is the general strategy?
[06:09] <ki7mt> LuiX, ya fix the Windows MBR, and use EasyBCD to dual / muli boot whatever ya need.
[06:11] <ki7mt> LuiX, So when the box boots, rather than seeing the Grub menu initially, it's the EEasyBCD menu. Selecting Linus or whatever you call it sends you to Grub wehre you can control multiple Linux installs.
[06:12] <ki7mt> Vista is particularly painful to deal with if Grub2 is the boot loader. Win7/8 not as bad, but on some machines, still painful.
[06:13] <LuiX> ki7mt, so from that step onward, i'll have those two steps every time I boot?
[06:14] <ki7mt> LuiX, 1 for Windows, 1 for all your Linux. Instead of auto-booting into a particular image, you get the selection menu.
[06:15] <LuiX> ki7mt, but first the easybcd and then grub?
[06:15] <ki7mt> LuiX, So for example,. I ahve one box with Windows, and like 6 distro's can't recall exactly, if I select Linux, Grub pops up and says , ok, which Linux you want.
[06:16] <ki7mt> LuiX, Yes, when the box boots, your presented with the EasyBCD Menu, If I select Windows, it boots straight in, if Linux, presents you with the Linux Boot Options, Memtest, recovery, all that stuff.
[06:17] <LuiX> ki7mt, i see. I'm primarily a linux user, and i'm not sure if it's an elegant solution. there must be a way to reconcile grub and windows.
[06:17] <LuiX> ki7mt, what i mean is that i've always worked just with grub and it worked ok
[06:18] <ki7mt> LuiX, I am too, but on that box, when I tried to dual box it, Windows crashed, and that was the only way out.
[06:18] <ki7mt> .. dual boot it .. ..
[06:18] <Ben64> LuiX: then continue to use grub?
[06:18] <Beldar> LuiX, I missed your issue, but using easybcd is just more muddling of the boot, would you be willing to state the issue again and run a boot diagnostic script?
[06:19] <LuiX> thanks ki7mt. Beldar, heres a pastebin of a boot repair run http://paste.ubuntu.com/7698617/
[06:19] <ki7mt> Grub doesn't wok on all Windows installs that a fact, so it's not muddling.
[06:20] <Ben64> LuiX: so you're not even on ubuntu...
[06:20] <ki7mt> LuiX, That's all I ahd to offer, was an option.
[06:21] <LuiX> Ben64, what do you mean?
[06:21] <Ben64> LuiX: this is #ubuntu, for ubuntu support. you're not running ubuntu
[06:22] <Beldar> LuiX, Not a supported OS as noticed, but the bootrepair should fix this unless windows is corrupted, I would run a chkdsk /r on windows from a recovery terminal if needed.
[06:22] <LuiX> Ben64, i thought that running elementaryOS was still part of the family. anyways this could apply to any distro
[06:23] <Ben64> LuiX: only canonical ubuntu releases are supported here
[06:23] <Beldar> LuiX, OR a rebuild of the bcd in windows easily done.
[06:23] <Beldar> and or*
[06:25] <LuiX> Beldar, would it suffice to know that the problem started when i tried to move one partition to another to install ubuntu (sda7 on the pastebin)? you'll have to trust me with that one.
[06:26] <Beldar> LuiX, Are you registered with freenode we could do this in ##linux
[06:26] <LuiX> i am!
[06:26] <LuiX> i'll join there, then
[06:27] <JoshH99> Hey everyone, I'm trying to set up multiple php5-fpm pools as per http://bit.ly/1o1NxYd section 3. I've created the pool.d/domain.conf file, but fpm does not create the socket within the directory I've created
[06:28] <JoshH99> correction: section 3.1 actually
[06:28] <CodeFormer> which VM is good with Ubuntu 12.0.4 LTS
[06:28] <somsip> CodeFormer: virtualbox is free
[06:29] <commander_> i was writing a control file for my deb package and am getting this error while packing it : first block lacks a source field
[06:30] <commander_> dpkg-shlibdeps: error: syntax error in debian/control at line 12: first block lacks a source field ---- this is the complete error am getting anyone know what "block lacks a source field " mean
[06:30] <CodeFormer> somsip: ok, Thanks ! anything else?
[06:31] <celroc> CodeFormer: I think VMWare Player is free for Linux.  I may have the name wrong....
[06:33] <CodeFormer> anything about KVM ?
[06:33] <cyborg_> hello is anyone there>?
[06:33] <ki7mt> commander_, it would be helpful if you could patebin the control file, but do you have the debian folder inside the src dir? Allot times that error is a dir structure error
[06:34] <commander_> ki7mt: yes i have all
[06:34] <celroc> cyborg_: Hello.  Welcome to the Ubuntu support channel
[06:34] <cyborg_> thanks
[06:35] <cyborg_> celroc,  I have a issue that I am working on and really need some valid help with are you willing to have some fun
[06:36] <celroc> cyborg_: Please feel free to post your question.  If I don't know it, someone else here may be able to help.
[06:36] <ki7mt> commander_, ok, then pastebin the control file so we can have a look at it.
[06:36] <commander_> http://pastebin.com/QzvZYHij
[06:37] <cyborg_> celroc, I have a usb device that i would like to assign drivers to to do more testing and configuring of the device and I am currently running Ubuntustudio 14.04 64bit
[06:37] <commander_> ki7mt: http://pastebin.com/QzvZYHij
[06:38] <commander_> ki7mt: i want create orig.tar.gz of my source how can i achieve that ?
[06:38] <cyborg_> really anyone that is familiar with hardware particularly USB Midi devices and Ubuntu
[06:39] <ki7mt> commander_, for one thing, you need a standard line in there, like: Standards-Version: 3.9.5 blah blah, then you should ahve your build deps after that.
[06:39] <commander_> ki7mt: and what about creating a tar file
[06:39] <celroc> cyborg_: I'm sorry, could you be a little more specific, please?  What type of USB device are you using, and what sort of tests would you like to perform?
[06:39] <commander_> ki7mt: debian tar file
[06:39] <ki7mt> The Hompage / Vcs stuff, Arch, Depends and then comments after that.
[06:40] <ki7mt> commander_, You should probably have a chat in #debian-mentors on OFTC .. or go back to the Debian manual and add in all the needed fields.
[06:41] <commander_> ki7mt: thannks :)
[06:42] <ki7mt> commander_, from what I can see, there's no build-deps, runtime deps, Standards line, Priority adn Arch lines, that's allot to be missing.
[06:42] <cyborg_> celroc, okay.  I have a Openlabs DBEAT (plz ggle it 2 c pic). I am attempting to run it under ubuntu studio and get the Midi controllers to work with UBSTUD14.04 64bit
[06:43] <commander_> i was not checking for deps i want create  debianized tar
[06:43] <djr013> I have a system-crashing ethernet driver issue with atl1c which has been present a few years now. Seems to happen after a megabyte or few transmits, at which point the entire system becomes unresponsive, usually with screen corruption, and no error in logs. How might I report this bug?
[06:44] <ki7mt> commander_, Understand, but have a proper debian.tar.xyz the control file needs to be correct, and you need to be ablt to build the package with like ppbuilder, pbuilder-dist sbuild etc.
[06:44] <JoshH99> Final attempt || Hey everyone, I'm trying to set up multiple php5-fpm pools as per http://bit.ly/1o1NxYd section 3.1 . I've created the pool.d/domain.conf file, but fpm does not create the socket within the directory I've created. any ideas as to why this may be?
[06:44] <celroc> cyborg_: Alright.  I'm afraid that I don't have any MIDI experience yet, but what issues are you running into while trying to do this?
[06:45] <oliver__> I just downloaded calibration profiles, where did it download to?
[06:45] <commander_> now the error is in line no. 14 again as my control file is like this : http://pastebin.com/zrRTnCjL
[06:45] <commander_> am building it with dpkg-buildpackage -S
[06:46] <commander_> ki7mt: now the error is in line no. 14 again as my control file is like this : http://pastebin.com/zrRTnCjL
[06:46] <commander_> ki7mt:  am building it with dpkg-buildpackage -S
[06:46] <ki7mt> commander_, All I get is "Spam Detection For Pastebin ID: zrRTnCjL" .. but in any case while is support, it's not really the right place for dev-packaging.
[06:46] <guest173> list
[06:46] <commander_> ki7mt: oh wait
[06:46] <cyborg_> celroc, I would like to bind the generic usb-midi driver to my device
[06:46] <ki7mt> commander_, Yes, I know how to build packages, I do lots of them :-)
[06:46] <commander_> ki7mt: http://pastebin.com/zrRTnCjL
[06:47] <commander_> ki7mt:  please teach me or provide a correct way please
[06:47] <ki7mt> commander_, 2sec look, no Priority line, no standards line.
[06:48] <ki7mt> commander_, I did, #debian-mentors is the right place for this topic.
[06:48] <commander_> my package got no dependencies so is it necessary to include depends ?
[06:48] <commander_> ki7mt: debian-mentors :You have been kicked from #debian-mentors by ChanServ (Invite only channel)
[06:49] <commander_> ki7mt: whats that ehy they kicked /
[06:49] <bazhang> commander_, its on OFTC
[06:49] <ki7mt> commander_, Not on Freenode, it's on OFTC
[06:49] <celroc> cyborg_: Hmm, I would think that it would try to do that automatically upon plugging it in.
[06:49] <commander_> ki7mt: okay thanks friend :)
[06:50] <ki7mt> commander_, Your welcome.
[06:52] <cyborg_> celroc, it doesn't.  I think that the descriptors that they used in the firmware are not being recognized as "class compliant" to Ubuntu
[06:53] <CodeFormer> can't install KVM to my Ubuntu precise :(
[06:54] <celroc> cyborg_: I'm sorry, but I'm afraid that MIDI devices go beyond my area of expertise.  Perhaps someone else here knows a solution, though
[06:58] <helmut_> hi
[06:59] <innocent95> Morning!
[07:00] <innocent95> i lost my /boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod
[07:00] <innocent95> How can i fix it
[07:00] <commander_> innocent95: where?
[07:00] <commander_> :P
[07:00] <innocent95> lol
[07:00] <commander_> lol
[07:00] <innocent95> in the bookcase
[07:01] <commander_> innocent95: lol :P
[07:01] <CodeFormer> running kvm shows problem.. manually shows these: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7699029/
[07:01] <celroc> innocent95: Can you run "sudo update-grub" in a terminal?  It might help fix it
[07:01] <innocent95> celroc, can i do that for a live usb
[07:02] <innocent95> because i am not able to boot
[07:02] <celroc> innocent95: Yes, but it takes a few more steps.  One moment, please, let me get a handy article that shows what the steps are
[07:02] <innocent95> grub rescue
[07:02] <celroc> innocent95: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[07:02] <mnms_> My file changes doesnt automatically refresh in programs like git gui git cola. I need to install some kind of file watcher ?
[07:03] <innocent95> alright
[07:05] <kloek> Is the intel 6205 bug introduced in 14.04 fixed yet? or does it still cause all kinds of problems with dropping connectivity and not working after hibernation?
[07:06] <innocent95> celroc, Do i need the step of other operating system, can i skip it because i have no other operating system
[07:07] <Mattias> I have a dual head setup and am trying to set color profiles for both screens with xcalib. Running i3 as wm. However, Xorg seems to make them look like one screen, so I can't target xcalib to only one screen. basically I only have display :0 and screen :0 at 3840x1200. How do I tell xorg to use them as 2 screens instead of 1?
[07:08] <celroc> innocent95: One moment, please.  I'll take a closer look at the article
[07:09] <celroc> innocent95: You'll want to start at the part that reads "Terminal Commands" and work your way down from there
[07:09] <commander_>  how do i switch off my AMD graphics as I am having quick battery drainage issue
[07:09] <Beldar> innocent95, Is this a dualboot?
[07:09] <innocent95> celroc, Yeah i see i did
[07:09] <innocent95> Beldar, No
[07:11] <Beldar> innocent95, use this app and save the popup of the bootinfo summary for diagnoses if not fixed. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[07:11] <innocent95> celroc, are you sure about /mnt/dev
[07:11] <innocent95> it doesnt exist
[07:12] <pothan100> ?
[07:12] <pothan100> #pi
[07:12] <pothan100> hey guys
[07:12] <pothan100> is there a chanel about rasberryPI ?
[07:13] <celroc> innocent95: Ah, that might mean that there was an error in the command used right before that one.  Can you list the command that you used, please?
[07:13] <somsip> pothan100: #raspberrypi
[07:13] <pothan100> thanks somsip
[07:14] <innocent95> celroc, sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt
[07:14] <innocent95> sda1
[07:14] <innocent95> sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev &&
[07:15] <innocent95> and etc etc
[07:15] <celroc> innocent95: Hmm, okay, that looks like it should be correct.  Can you run "ls /mnt" for me and see if you see a "dev" in the output anywhere?
[07:16] <innocent95> audit.txt  jpg
[07:16] <celroc> innocent95: That's all that it shows?
[07:16] <innocent95> celroc, no dev
[07:16] <innocent95> Yes
[07:17] <innocent95> These are foremost files
[07:18] <celroc> innocent95: Hmm, alright, I think what happened was that /dev/sda1 wasn't the partition we needed.  Please run "sudo umount /mnt" and then re-run the command with /dev/sda2
[07:18] <celroc> innocent95: By the way, do you know if you have multiple hard drives in your computer?
[07:19] <innocent95> celroc, I used the boot-repair
[07:19] <innocent95> celroc, No i have a single one
[07:19] <celroc> innocent95: Ah, okay, thanks.  Did the boot-repair solve it?
[07:20] <innocent95> let me try rebooting and see if it fixed
[07:20] <Beldar> innocent95, Do you have the bootinfo summary url from bootrepair?
[07:27] <innocent95> The same problem
[07:27] <Beldar> innocent95, Do you have the bootinfo summary url from bootrepair?
[07:28] <nicolas__> hi
[07:28] <innocent95> Oh i didnt save it
[07:28] <innocent95> my bad
[07:28] <innocent95> should reinstall it and try again
[07:28] <Beldar> innocent95, Run the boot repair again not the repair but just the bootinfo summary and paste the url here.
[07:28] <jnhghy> how can I make ubuntu 12.04 to use a proxy without the user option to switch off the setting?
[07:28] <rimad> hey guys, I have three monitors setup (2 monitors and laptop display). It works ok when extending desktop, however when I go from primary monitor to the other my primary monitor starts scrolling and mirroring other two displays. How do i get rid of this?
[07:29] <innocent95> alright
[07:29] <nicolas__> could anyboby help me to install flash player on chroe browser please ? I ride on ubuntu 14. Thank yu
[07:29] <Beldar> innocent95, Cool that summary takes out many questions and usually gets to the heart of the issue, killer script.
[07:30] <innocent95> hmm
[07:30] <innocent95> I thought the button says repair will fix ... P
[07:30] <Beldar> innocent95, No repair yet just the button below the bootinfo summary
[07:31] <Beldar> innocent95, No repair yet just the button below the; bootinfo summary better punctuation
[07:31] <innocent95> just a moment
[07:32] <Beldar> he closer anyway just hit the bootinfo summary button and paste the url
[07:32] <innocent95> I mean i am installing
[07:33] <Beldar> cool
[07:33] <innocent95> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7699142/
[07:34] <umar343> how do i connect my laptop on ubuntu  to pen drive ?
[07:35] <umar343> Commandter minal commands for detecting the usb device and mount the same please.
[07:35] <Beldar> innocent95, sda1 the OS is missing a bunch of stuff we should see mainly any grub boot info, what happened that got you here?
[07:36] <nicolas__> how install Flash Player on Chrome browser ? I have done this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash    BUT it doesn t work.
[07:36] <nicolas__> any suggest ? thx
[07:36] <innocent95> Beldar, I was trying to recover lost files yesterday, maybe this is the problem
[07:36] <umar343> i was not able to find any email id to send mail on the main website.
[07:37] <innocent95> i wrote on the hdd several times
[07:38] <Beldar> innocent95, Something has gone wrong, I would pull out what you want and do a new install, but that is me. You could try a chroot and run a grub install and update but I can't guarantee that to work.
[07:38] <ki7mt> nicolas__, for what it's worth, I use peperflash on Chromium, more info here: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/install-pepper-flash-player-for.html
[07:39] <innocent95> Beldar, what do you recommend
[07:39] <ki7mt> nicolas__, and for 14.04 see: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/pepper-flash-player-installer-for.html
[07:39] <nicolas__> ok ki7mt I check that Thank yu ;-))
[07:40] <ki7mt> nicolas__, Your Welcome
[07:40] <Beldar> innocent95, Because I have my setups as a dpkg list to load all installs, extra repos and keys I just fresh install myself. I think in your case a fresh install is probably best, than clone that sucker when all updated and setup/
[07:41] <Beldar> innocent95, If you had a clone to begin with al;l you would be doing is reloading it.
[07:42] <innocent95> Beldar, reloading it
[07:42] <innocent95> what do you mean
[07:43] <Beldar> innocent95, a clone can be put back in, I just used that term.
[07:44] <innocent95> Beldar, Reinstalling it ?
[07:44] <Beldar> innocent95, A clone is a mirror image an exact copy to just reload to a partition.
[07:44] <celroc> Oh... Okay, I see what Beldar is saying now
[07:45] <innocent95> I am not loosing anything, i think i have to reinstalling it again
[07:45] <innocent95> reinstall
[07:45] <rimad> hey guys, I have three monitors setup (2 monitors and laptop display). It works ok when extending desktop, however when I go from primary monitor to the other my primary monitor starts scrolling and mirroring other two displays. How do i get rid of this?
[07:46] <Tobias92> Dear Ubuntu gurus, my cronjob for updating spamassassin keeps failing, saying "could not find working mirror". Google is of no help, does anybody have a suggestion?
[07:46] <Beldar> innocent95, I like clones it takes me less than an hour to do a full reinstall and have the same OS, but about 10 min to pop the clone in instead.
[07:46] <celroc> innocent95: He means that right after you get your system re-installed and set up how you want it, you can make an exact copy ("image") of it and just revert back to that copy later
[07:47] <innocent95> oh
[07:47] <celroc> Beldar: Good suggestion
[07:47] <innocent95> after re-installing it
[07:47] <acetakwas> How do u do a cloan please?
[07:47] <Beldar> celroc, My ego does not allow me to ask for help, just insurance supporting that. ;)
[07:47] <jnhghy> in what file is the network settings -> proxy settings saved? I need to check it by command line if there is a way...
[07:48] <Beldar> acetakwas, Multiple ways but I use clonezilla ofyen.
[07:48] <innocent95> Beldar, Lol
[07:48] <Beldar> often*
[07:48]  * celroc blinks, not appearing to know what Beldar means
[07:49] <djr013> jnhghy: I'm not sure, but note that usually there are both system and user settings
[07:49] <djr013> so probably multiple places
[07:49] <Beldar> celroc, I'm to proud to ask for help would be the description of my dysfunctional self. ;)
[07:49] <celroc> innocent95: Yes, it would be after re-installing it.  Basically, once you have your system in a state that you want it in, you can sort of make a copy of it in that state and then revert to it quickly any time that you need
[07:50] <celroc> Beldar: Ah.  Um, okay
[07:50] <innocent95> Beldar, celroc When i started the install wizard it told me that this computer has no detected os, what the heck is going on (P)
[07:51] <Beldar> innocent95, Not sure here, you did the damage, and it is impossible to tell here what you did.
[07:52] <Beldar> innocent95, Just let the installer write the whole HD.
[07:52] <innocent95> Beldar, The whole HD
[07:52] <innocent95> why
[07:53] <celroc> innocent95: It will reformat your drive for you.  Of course, you will want to backup anything that might be important on the drive first
[07:53] <Beldar> innocent95, That is what you had, I assume that is what you want.
[07:54] <celroc> innocent95: Basically, what it'll do for you is clean off the Ubuntu install that broke, and then install it completely fresh
[07:56] <innocent95> Yes i know, I mean i want re-partition the hdd
[07:57] <innocent95> I want to break up this 40 gig into 13 and 27
[07:57] <Beldar> innocent95, Use the manual install than
[07:58] <Beldar> leave space for a swap
[07:58] <innocent95> Beldar, Yes i did, both are ext4 does this works
[07:58] <innocent95> Beldar, a swap, oh how much does it takes
[07:59] <Beldar> innocent95, equal or a few MB more that ram is the norm.
[07:59] <Beldar> than*
[07:59] <innocent95> 1GB
[07:59] <Beldar> innocent95, That your ram amount?
[08:00] <innocent95> Yess
[08:00] <innocent95> dont tell people
[08:00] <innocent95> (P)
[08:00] <ki7mt> May want to consider Lubuntu then :-)
[08:00] <innocent95> ki7mt, Xubuntu
[08:00] <Beldar> innocent95, I would do a swap about 1.25 gig to just be safe
[08:01] <ki7mt> Either or, just not Ubuntu :-)
[08:01] <innocent95> Yes
[08:01] <innocent95> Beldar, 1024.25
[08:01] <innocent95> what is the file system
[08:03] <celroc> innocent95: Linux uses mainly the ext4 filesystem (recommended nowadays).  You can use ext2/ext3 but I'm not sure what exactly would be the pros/cons
[08:04] <Beldar> innocent95, swap is the partiton type
[08:04] <Beldar> good amount
[08:04] <celroc> innocent95: Sorry.  I misunderstood your question.  Beldar got it right
[08:04] <innocent95> Yes i know, I mean other partitions
[08:05] <Beldar> innocent95, actually that would be 1280
[08:05] <Mercer> What software do I use to create a Ubuntu Live USB? Currently pn 13.10.
[08:05] <Mercer> *on
[08:05] <innocent95> Beldar, Exactly i was calculating that
[08:05] <Mercer> I used UNetBootIn, didn't work...
[08:05] <innocent95> Beldar, I believe you have a calculator (P)
[08:05] <Beldar> innocent95, Yes I do, lol.
[08:06] <Beldar> Mercer, What is the OS you are trying to load?
[08:06] <acetakwas> Mercer: you can use YUMI to create it on a thumb drive
[08:06] <Mercer> Beldar: Ubuntu 14.04
[08:07] <Beldar> Mercer, use the onboard startup disk craetor
[08:07] <Beldar> creator*
[08:08] <innocent95> Beldar, No root file system is defined
[08:08] <Beldar> innocent95, set the mount on the install partiton as /
[08:08] <innocent95> oh i got it
[08:08] <innocent95> Beldar, Before you say it, P
[08:09] <Beldar> innocent95, Good, job we like self sufficiency here. ;)
[08:09] <innocent95> Yeah i see
[08:09] <innocent95> Beldar, what about the other partition what mount point does it takes
[08:10] <Beldar> innocent95, I would not bother with it in the install you can make it with another install or with gparted.
[08:10] <McErroneous> lool..
[08:10] <innocent95> Alright
[08:11] <Beldar> innocent95, Are you separating out home?
[08:12] <innocent95> Beldar, You mean Linux home, or My home
[08:12] <Beldar> innocent95, Your home.
[08:12] <innocent95> Yes i am at home
[08:12] <Beldar> innocent95, Heh, the home of the OS, lol.
[08:12] <innocent95> lol
[08:12] <acetakwas> Lol...he means /home
[08:13] <innocent95> Yeah i see
[08:13] <lexus00z> lol
[08:13] <innocent95> but how separating out home
[08:13] <JovialHarp> hello!
[08:13] <Beldar> innocent95, I never have a seperate /home myself but it seems popular, but not really needed.
[08:13] <lexus00z> joviaharp:hello
[08:13] <acetakwas> JovialHarp: Hi!
[08:13] <innocent95> OOh
[08:14] <innocent95> It looks useful i was trying to do that
[08:14] <celroc> Beldar: I've personally found it very handy, but do agree that it's not necessary
[08:14] <innocent95> but ...
[08:14] <innocent95> can i do that later one
[08:14] <innocent95> on
[08:14] <JovialHarp> i was wondering, does anyone have a toshiba sattelite laptop running ubuntu?
[08:14] <Beldar> celroc, works in the right context, I just never upgrade the OS.
[08:15] <Beldar> JovialHarp, How about the actual issue?
[08:15] <acetakwas> I'm more interested in seperating out 'installed packages'. But how?
[08:15] <celroc> Beldar: Ah.  I use it mostly just in case I want to switch OSes or upgrade.  It makes it a bit easier ;-)
[08:15] <Beldar> true
[08:16] <JovialHarp> i can't seem to make my laptop change brightness, also i don't remember how to send a message to a specific person in irc anymore beldar
[08:16] <Beldar> acetakwas, You can make a dpkg list of apps installed if you like, and save configs
[08:16] <innocent95> Ubuntu + xfce = XUbuntu, what the heck is this
[08:16] <Beldar> JovialHarp tab complete for nicks, brightness I'm not sure.
[08:16] <celroc> innocent95: It would probably be easiest to do it now if you want a /home partition.  You can add it later, but it can be a little more complicated to do later
[08:17] <lexus00z> JovialHarp: doubleclick the nickname you want to send
[08:17] <acetakwas> JovialHarp: have you tried 'Settings' > 'Screen'?
[08:17] <innocent95> I mean if am using ubuntu and xfce in the same time why then, they are saying that xubuntu is faster than ubuntu
[08:17] <JovialHarp> Beldar: its interesting because the brightness settings work on my 12.04 livecd, but not on the operating system once it installed
[08:17] <Beldar> innocent95, xfce is the base of xubuntu together you have a somewhat xubuntu setup
[08:17] <innocent95> celroc, ok
[08:17] <celroc> innocent95: xubuntu is actually just the ubuntu core with the XFCE desktop environment
[08:18] <Beldar> JovialHarp, The brightness gui does not work or key prompts?
[08:18] <innocent95> celroc, That's it
[08:18] <JovialHarp> Beldar: neither, i've gone into the gui settings, and no matter what i do to the brightness bar, it doesn't change, and the keys dont do anything different either
[08:18] <innocent95> why didn't they say Ubuntu Core + xfce = XUbuntu it would be better
[08:19] <Beldar> JovialHarp, I would go to askubuntu and search with that computer model and brightness, probably info there.
[08:19] <acetakwas> Beldarl: how?
[08:19] <Beldar> acetakwas, how what?
[08:19] <JovialHarp> Beldar: I'll look, its been a pain in my side for awhile now, i feel like my corneas are being burnt lol
[08:20] <Beldar> innocent95, Ubuntu Core + xfce = XUbuntu is not precisely xubuntu is all.
[08:20] <acetakwas> Beldar: how to make the dpkg list.
[08:20] <innocent95> neither ubuntu + xfce = xubuntu
[08:21] <Beldar> acetakwas, Code:
[08:21] <Beldar> dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages
[08:21] <Beldar> And if you wanted to use the list to reinstall this software on a fresh ubuntu setup, Code: sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages ; sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[08:21] <innocent95> Beldar, huh, copying code, why didn't you just mentioned the page for him
[08:21] <Beldar> acetakwas, sorry make the list with this the first was the relaod. dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages
[08:22] <acetakwas> Beldar: okay, thanks
[08:22] <Beldar> innocent95, NOt from a page but my notes
[08:22] <innocent95> Oh
[08:22] <innocent95> okay
[08:23] <innocent95> Cloud-up your notes
[08:23] <Beldar> acetakwas, so in correct order save with dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages reload with sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages ; sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[08:23] <acetakwas> eNotes or paper Notes?
[08:23] <Beldar> sorry about that
[08:24] <acetakwas> Okay
[08:24] <Beldar> acetakwas, about 5 pages of libreooffice all kinds of stuff
[08:24] <Beldar> my brain is the size of a walnut I need a little help
[08:24] <innocent95> Thank you very much, see you after installation :)
[08:25] <acetakwas> Okay. Cool ;)
[08:25] <acetakwas> Lol 'see'
[08:28] <JovialHarp> well that was interesting, after my laptop went into suspend mode, it came back with an ugly messed up screen, wiht alot of messed up junk on the side, and the rest of it all black
[08:28] <aszen> Hello guys, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 on my Asus Zenbook, but the installer crashes after copying the files
[08:28] <aszen> any idea what could be wrong?
[08:29] <acetakwas> Aszen: from a live disk?
[08:29] <aszen> acetakwas: Installing it from an USB 3.0 stick (secure boot disabled)
[08:30] <aszen> when I reboot grub is there but promts me with a shell (grub shell or what ever the name of that thing is :))
[08:30] <acetakwas> Are u able to boot ubuntu fine?
[08:31] <aszen> yes
[08:31] <aszen> I boot up ubuntu (try ubuntu) and then launch the install wizard from the desktop ("Install Ubuntu")
[08:31] <acetakwas> Then did you do 'try ubuntu' first?
[08:31] <acetakwas> Okay
[08:32] <aszen> I've also tried it the other way round (install it directy without booting up from the stick)
[08:32] <aszen> no luck either
[08:32] <acetakwas> Are u doing it now...maybe we could walk-you-through
[08:32] <robynata> 8-)
[08:32] <aszen> acetakwas: that would be awesome yes, you have some minutes time?
[08:33] <acetakwas> Okay
[08:35] <aszen> 1st slide ("Welcome"): I choose English, 2nd slide ("Wireless") I choose "I don't want to connect to a wi-fi network righ now", 3rd slide I chose "install this third-party software".
[08:35] <acetakwas> Okay
[08:35] <aszen> on the slide "installation type" I choose "Erease disk and install ubuntu", as well as "Encrypt the new Ubuntu installation for security" and "Use LVM with the new Ubuntu installation"
[08:36] <n1n0> Hi. Would appreciate any help. Had this issue on 13.10 with the display manager where the system always went into the login loop (even after 14.04 installation). Now, the display goes black with the tiny stripes on the sides where only reboot helps. Thought it was the display hardware issue (as i recently changed it), but when i plug the external monitor via vga, it's the same. Any reccomendations
[08:36] <n1n0> ?
[08:36] <Mercer> I created a Live USB with Startup Disk Creator, but still my Laptop won't detect the USB
[08:36] <acetakwas> Do you want to clenan ur entire HDD?
[08:36] <aszen> acetakwas: yes
[08:36] <aszen> (I hate win8 :P)
[08:36] <n1n0> ...it's the same on that other monitor (the black with stripes)
[08:36] <Mercer> I even tried with UNETBOOTIN and LiLi
[08:37] <acetakwas> Lol okay
[08:37] <n1n0> ...and am wondering could it be the hardware issue or another display manager bug?
[08:37] <Beldar> Mercer, "still my Laptop won't detect the USB" does this mean no boot or not seen in the bios?
[08:37] <aszen> acetakwas: now the installer ask me for the boot password (aka "Security key"). So I'm typing it in there... sec
[08:37] <acetakwas> There is a last option .. I think something something like 'specify manually
[08:38] <aszen> acetakwas: yes
[08:38] <Mercer> Beldar: Not seen in the BIOS
[08:38] <aszen> sec
[08:38] <Beldar> Mercer, You are sure the computer boots from a usb?
[08:38] <aszen> acetakwas: in the disk setup ("Installation type") I can choose "Something else" which will serve me a screen where I can devine the disk layout by myself
[08:38] <aszen> should I choose that one?
[08:39] <aszen> s/devine/define
[08:39] <acetakwas> Yes exactly
[08:39] <joystick> Hi need some help with snmp mib search path.
[08:39] <aszen> acetakwas: okey, I'll first choose "New partition Table" (in order to erease the current partition table / data)
[08:40] <joystick> googling not helping :)
[08:40] <acetakwas> Yes
[08:40] <acetakwas> Are there any partitions there currently?
[08:40] <aszen> yes the previous ubuntu installation that failed
[08:41] <aszen> sec
[08:41] <Mercer> Beldar: So there are 2 boot options... Boot Option #1 and #2. If I hit enter on one of them, it lists the available "media/drives" available. So I see my HDD and DVD Drive but I can't see the USB Drive there...
[08:41] <acetakwas> When you select that partition, is there an option to delete at the bottom of the window?
[08:41] <Beldar> Mercer, That does not answer the question.
[08:42] <aszen> acetakwas: /dev/mapper/blabla_ASUSOS1 -> efi (500 MB), /dev/mapper/blabla_ASUSOS2 ext2 (230MB), /dev/mapper/blabla_ASUSOS3 (500GB)
[08:42] <aszen> acetakwas: I can delete all these three yes
[08:42] <aszen> should I do that?
[08:42] <Mercer> Beldar: I suppose every Laptop can, its been only 4 months since I got it...
[08:42] <JovialHarp> Hah! well sort of Hah! the function keys now show that they're doing something, but the brightness still remains unchanged
[08:43] <acetakwas> Yes please
[08:43] <Beldar> Mercer, I will take that as a yes, and no many older computers do not boot from a usb. This a uefi bios
[08:43] <acetakwas> Then you can create the new partition table
[08:43] <Mercer> This is UEFI bios... But I have disabled it...
[08:44] <Mercer> Beldar ^
[08:44] <Beldar> Mercer, You can't as far as I know disable the bios.
[08:44] <Mercer> Beldar: I mean I have disabled the UEFI boot
[08:45] <aszen> acetakwas: ok, so after deleting these partitions I have: /dev/mapper/lsw_blabla_ASUS_OS with 500GB free space
[08:45] <Beldar> Mercer, Have you read the uefi wiki?
[08:45] <aszen> I click on it and choose "New Partition Table"
[08:45] <acetakwas> Yes
[08:45] <aszen> acetakwas: done
[08:45] <Mercer> Beldar: Not within the last month
[08:47] <Beldar> Mercer, I'm not really up on uefi, and every manufacturer has voodoed their own version, so this if I could even help will go past my intent to crash in about 12 min, others will be better help.
[08:47] <amitprakash> How do I install ubuntu in UML mode?
[08:47] <acetakwas> Now you can select the only partition there and click the 'plus' sign at the bottom
[08:48] <aszen> acetakwas: done, what do I need? just /? boot? EFI? swap?
[08:48] <acetakwas>  
[08:49] <Beldar> Mercer, I will leave you with these to use however. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[08:49] <acetakwas> You need '/'; '/boot' (optional) and 'swap'
[08:50] <aszen> acetakwas: ok, does the order of these partition matter?
[08:50] <opiwan> hello. in prior ubuntu-versions (before 14.04) kvm had a kind of "fallback-mode". if resource was busy (f.e. via virtualbox) the command "kvm" started "qemu" instead. now it only says "resource busy". how can I get back this "fallback-behavior"?
[08:51] <acetakwas> Not really...but you may make 'boot' the first
[08:51] <Beldar> Mercer, I would confirm the usb shows or is bootable as well on another computer maybe.
[08:51] <aszen> acetakwas: OK, UEFI boot or just boot? i Guess I need UEFI boot
[08:51] <Beldar> opiwan, fallback as in another desktop?
[08:52] <Beldar> opiwan, I misinterpreted that, my bad
[08:52] <acetakwas> I would sya just 'boot' is fine and at 256MB
[08:56] <aszen> acetakwas: ok, now I have "/dev/mapper/lsw_blabla_ASUS_OS" with the following partitions: OS1 ext4 /boot (1GB), OS2 swap  (10GB), OS3 ext4 / (500GB)
[08:56] <aszen> soudns good?
[08:57] <acetakwas> Aszen: you may also want to leave some free 'unallocated' space for future use if you have a lot of space to play with
[08:57] <aszen> acetakwas: usually I just use one big partition for all my stuff
[08:57] <acetakwas> Okay. Fine
[08:57] <Leong44> I suggest jfs rather than ext4, it has better all-round performance
[08:58] <acetakwas> Next step
[08:58] <aszen> acetakwas: Device for boot loader installation
[08:58] <aszen> is that /dev/mapper/lsw_blabla_ASUS_OS (the disk) or a partition?
[08:59] <acetakwas> The disk not the partition please
[08:59] <acetakwas> Leong44: I don't know much about JFS I'm sorry
[09:00] <aszen> acetakwas: ok, now it gets interesting. I can choose between: /dev/sda, /dev/mapper/lsw_blabla_ASUS_OS ("Linux device-mappter (stripped)", or a partition ( /dev/mapper/lsw_blabla_ASUS_OS[1|2|3]
[09:00] <aszen> do I have to choose sda or the device mapper?
[09:01] <acetakwas> I want to believe it's sda
[09:01] <aszen> hint: I have some sort of weird software / hardware raid (2x256GB SSDs) that I can't influence
[09:01] <aszen> so are you sure I should choose sda and not the mapper thing? :P
[09:01] <acetakwas>  
[09:02] <acetakwas> Okay let,s go back to the partitions you created earlier
[09:02] <acetakwas> On which disk were they created?
[09:03] <aszen> on the mapper (/dev/mapper/lsw_blabla_ASUS_OS). the funny thing is that I can't see / choose sda there
[09:03] <underpressure> Hello! Im trying to get OpenGL 1.3 working in Win 8.1 in VirtualBox. It seems only OpenGL 1.1 is supported. Any ideas?
[09:03] <aszen> I only see the mapper, not the sda. but the sda appears in the "device for boot loader installation"
[09:03] <aszen> acetakwas: you want a screenshot?
[09:04] <acetakwas> I wish, but I'm on a j2me IRC client not so sophisticated
[09:05] <Leong44> underpressure: Use VMWare, VirtualBox is a pile of junk
[09:05] <acetakwas> Okay let's go with the MAPPER
[09:05] <Ben64> Leong44: that isn't true at all
[09:05] <MonkeyDust> Leong44  i happen to like virtualbox, thank you
[09:05] <aszen> acetakwas: ok, I'll install the boot loader there
[09:05] <Leong44> VirtualBox is barely maintained... it was almost kicked out of the kernel at one point
[09:05] <Leong44> But suit yourself
[09:06] <MonkeyDust> Leong44  no FUD here, please
[09:06] <underpressure> Leong44: how?
[09:06] <aszen> acetakwas: now I'm getting a message "Go back to the menu and correct this problem?" It tells me that there is a EFI thing and I should create a UEFI boot partition for /boot
[09:06] <MonkeyDust> Leong44  and you shouldnt say things that are not true, leave that to politicians
[09:07] <aszen> "The partition table foramt in use on your disk normally requeires you to create a separate partition for boot loader code. This partition should be marked for use as an "EFI boot partition" and should be at least blabla. Note that this is not the same as a partition mounted on /boot"
[09:07] <underpressure> unforgiven512:
[09:07] <aszen> "If you do not got back to the partition menu and correct this error, boot loader installation may fail later"
[09:08] <acetakwas> Okay so lets do that
[09:08] <underpressure> Anybody who knows how to install vmware?
[09:09] <aszen> sec, I'll change /boot from "ext4" to "EFI boot partition"
[09:09] <aszen> right?
[09:09] <Ben64> underpressure: vmware isn't supported in this channel, virtualbox is, and does work with opengl
[09:09] <acetakwas> Yep..try that but I'm not sure
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[09:09] <bcvery> !ops
[09:09] <DJones> cyborg_:Stop that
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[09:10] <underpressure> Ben64: i installed win8.1 in virtualbox and then daz3d. daz3d wont start and tells me opengl version is 1.1 but it needs 1.3
[09:10] <cfhowlett> sveta and ban him.  pleae.
[09:10] <Ben64> underpressure: make sure to install the guest additions
[09:10] <underpressure> Ben64: how?
[09:11] <Leong44> MonkeyDust: No FUD about it, kernel developers describe Virtualbox as "tainted crap". Don't accuse others of FUD just because you're not aware: https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/10/6/317
[09:12] <somsip> Leong44: is there any information that isn't 3 years old?
[09:12] <acetakwas> Aszen: any update?
[09:12] <aszen> acetakwas: http://www.image-share.com/ipng-2602-243.html
[09:12] <cfhowlett> Leong44 3 years old news?  really?
[09:12] <Ben64> underpressure: should be an option somewhere, i don't have a windows vm though so i can't tell you
[09:12] <Leong44> cfhowlett: Lol, you underestimate stagnation in open source. A lot of projects barely change in that time
[09:12] <acetakwas> Unfortunately, I can't view scrshots
[09:13] <aszen> acetakwas: aw ok, I'll just give it a try
[09:13] <underpressure> Ben64: hmmm.. its in the menu. it clicked it and it said its downloading something. but i cannot see any progress bar anywhere.
[09:13] <AdmiralMoose> Hi there
[09:14] <aszen> acetakwas: ok, now I got to the "Where are you" screen where I can choose my location. On the front I have an error message with the title "??? ???" and message "??? ???"
[09:14] <aszen> wtf?¨
[09:14] <underpressure> Ben64: ah, it downloaded it...
[09:15] <underpressure> Ben64: it tells me "guest additions cannot be installed on this version of windows"
[09:15] <acetakwas> no idea what ???? Means
[09:16] <aszen> acetakwas: me neither :)
[09:16] <acetakwas> What about the progress bar at the bottom?
[09:16] <acetakwas> Is it moving?
[09:17] <Ben64> underpressure: are you on some old version of vbox?
[09:17] <aszen> acetakwas: let me push "ok"
[09:17] <aszen> sec
[09:17] <AdmiralMoose> Im doing a clean install of 14.04 desktop with forcepae, and when it comes up with the screen (Step 4) that wants me to choose a
[09:17] <underpressure> Ben64: 4.1.12
[09:17] <AdmiralMoose> 'Device for boot loader installation' and it has from what I can gather, partition map
[09:18] <histo> AdmiralMoose: you choose the hard drive that is set to boot in the bios. usually /dev/sda
[09:18] <aszen> acetakwas: now I'm back at the screen "installation type" where I can choose the disk layout "(erease disk and install ubuntu" or "something else")
[09:18] <Ben64> underpressure: yeah, you need to upgrade vbox
[09:18] <underpressure> Ben64: how do i do that?
[09:18] <Ben64> underpressure: what version of ubuntu are you on
[09:18] <histo> underpressure: did you install virtualbox from the repos?
[09:19] <acetakwas> Hmmmm
[09:19] <aszen> acetakwas: yep, weird isn't it?
[09:19] <underpressure> histo: yes, from the repos
[09:19] <aszen> we can choose "Eerease disk and install ubuntu", but it will fail as well :-/
[09:19] <AdmiralMoose> Yeah ok done
[09:19] <underpressure> Ben64: its mint actually...
[09:19] <AdmiralMoose> But whatt do I do after this histo
[09:20] <cfhowlett> !mint|underpressure
[09:20] <Ben64> underpressure: then... ask in the mint channel. #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[09:20] <cfhowlett> underpressure not supported here.  sorry
[09:20] <AdmiralMoose> Because when I click +, - or Change... it freezes
[09:20] <AdmiralMoose> And doesn't work
[09:20] <acetakwas> Hmm...try it again but use sda
[09:20] <aszen> acetakwas: ack, sec
[09:20] <Guest4962> hello
[09:20] <aszen> acetakwas: now I can't see /dev/sda anymore
[09:21] <aszen> just the mapper
[09:21] <aszen>  /dev/mapper/blabla_OS and /dev/mapper/blabla_OS1
[09:21] <underpressure> Ben64: well.. i will just download the latest virtualbox from virtualbox.org and see what happens when i run it...
[09:21] <histo> !derivatives | underpressure
[09:21] <AdmiralMoose> histo
[09:21] <Ben64> underpressure: well good luck, head to the mint channel we gave you when it breaks
[09:22] <acetakwas> Do u have another version of ubuntu like 13.10
[09:22] <histo> AdmiralMoose: what screen are you at now?
[09:22] <underpressure> Ben64: if i install the latest ubuntu, will it come with a new enough virtualbox in the repos?
[09:22] <herpderphurr> hey everyone. I'm running 13.10 on a laptop, and I would like to upgrade to 14.04. However, whenever I run do-release-upgrade, it says there's "No new release found"
[09:22] <rietdijk> Good day
[09:23] <histo> herpderphurr: do you have the update manager package installed?
[09:23] <histo> !upgrade | herpderphurr
[09:23] <AdmiralMoose> histo: http://imgur.com/xTt9c78
[09:24] <rietdijk> apt-get upgrade
[09:24] <histo> AdmiralMoose: what are you installing to?
[09:24] <AdmiralMoose> histo: The only disk available, /dev/sda
[09:24] <herpderphurr> histo: I'm guessing you mean the update-manager package. yes, I have that installed. I've also run the GUI Software Updater, but it does not provide me any indication that a new release is available.
[09:24] <histo> AdmiralMoose: click install now
[09:24] <aszen> acetakwas: nope, but I can get one
[09:24] <aszen> sec
[09:25] <AdmiralMoose> Its actually frozen, because I clicked on the + and now its stuck
[09:25] <acetakwas> Also do u know how to use YUMI
[09:25] <histo> AdmiralMoose: or whatever that bottom right botton says
[09:25] <aszen> YUMI? never heard :P
[09:25] <histo> AdmiralMoose: what does the bottom right button say?
[09:25] <aszen> I have ubuntu 13.10 handy
[09:25] <histo> aszen: YUMI is broken
[09:25] <AdmiralMoose> histo: install now
[09:25] <cfhowlett> !yumi|acetakwas
[09:25] <histo> AdmiralMoose: click it
[09:25] <AdmiralMoose> histo: But it is stuck on the + button
[09:25] <AdmiralMoose> histo: I can't click anything else
[09:25] <histo> AdmiralMoose: can you click back?
[09:25] <Ben64> underpressure: yes it will
[09:26] <acetakwas> Yumi is small and can be downloaded within seconds
[09:26] <AdmiralMoose> histo: Nope
[09:26] <AdmiralMoose> histo: Completely frozen, apart from the mouse
[09:26] <histo> acetakwas: YUMI linux version is broken atm
[09:26] <histo> AdmiralMoose: What version of ubuntu are you installing?
[09:26] <AdmiralMoose> histo: 14.04
[09:26] <aszen> acetakwas: I'll give it a try with 13.10
[09:26] <aszen> give me 5 mins
[09:26] <histo> AdmiralMoose: restart the installer that is odd.
[09:27] <AdmiralMoose> histo: You mean reboot?
[09:27] <acetakwas> Install it on windows; use it to add the iso to ur thumb drive
[09:27] <AdmiralMoose> histo: I am using forcepae
[09:27] <underpressure> Ben64: ok. no prob to put ubuntu on a partition. if my current experiment doesnt work out i will try that. havent tried ubuntu for a year or two now.
[09:28] <histo> AdmiralMoose: why?
[09:28] <AdmiralMoose> histo: Its an older machine with a pentium M
[09:29] <histo> AdmiralMoose: are you trying to install a full desktop of unity?
[09:29] <cfhowlett> AdmiralMoose try lubuntu = optimized for older hardware
[09:29] <AdmiralMoose> histo: Lubuntu?
[09:29] <AdmiralMoose> histo: I will try that
[09:29] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu| AdmiralMoose
[09:30] <underpressure> you have to install a different distro to choose a different window manager?
[09:30] <cfhowlett> underpressure no you do not.
[09:30] <histo> AdmiralMoose: is that a non pae processor?
[09:30] <AdmiralMoose> histo: Yes
[09:30] <AdmiralMoose> histo: So I used forcepae
[09:30] <aszen> acetakwas: ok, ready with ubuntu 13.10
[09:31] <aszen> should I choose the same setup, or give it a try with "erease all and install ubuntu"?
[09:31] <aszen> maybe that works
[09:31] <histo> AdmiralMoose: Warning: use of this parameter will taint the kernel and may cause unknown problems.  right from the kernel docs
[09:31] <underpressure> im confused... so if i switch my display manager in ubuntu to lxde, i can ask questions in #ubuntu but if i install lubunt which is ubuntu with lxde as default, i have to ask in #lubuntu?
[09:31] <AdmiralMoose> histo: Yes I know
[09:32] <acetakwas> Same. But I don't think u need EFI boot
[09:32] <Hounddog_> Just saw there is a ppa for sublime text 3 and trying to install from there... all is good as seems but not able to open sublime... if anyone else might be having it running
[09:32] <cfhowlett> underpressure ask here.  for more in depth support, ask lubuntu
[09:32] <acetakwas> Did u get Yumi?
[09:32] <histo> AdmiralMoose: doesn't the mini iso have non pae kernels still?
[09:32] <underpressure> cfhowlett: ok.
[09:32] <AdmiralMoose> I dont know
[09:32] <ki7mt> AdmiralMoose, You should be ok using forcepae on Lubuntu, they did allof of work on that in the last cycle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE
[09:32] <aszen> acetakwas: no, why do I need it?
[09:32] <AdmiralMoose> From what I can tell it doesnt
[09:33] <AdmiralMoose> ki7mt: Thanks
[09:33] <AdmiralMoose> I have to go, thanks for your help guys
[09:33] <acetakwas> Its a multi boot usb creator
[09:34] <kev> hello
[09:34] <acetakwas> You just add bootable ISOs to thumb drives with it.
[09:34] <aszen> acetakwas: ok if I install it using "Erease whole disk and install ubuntu" I get an error message "ERROR!!!! Failed to add partition 1 (No such device or address)"
[09:35] <aszen> when I click on "retry" I get "The ext2 file system creation in partition #2 of Serial ATA RAID lsw_blabla_ASUS_OS (stripped) failed"
[09:35] <acetakwas> Use the something else...and do it the way we did earlier
[09:35] <aszen> acetakwas: ok sec
[09:36] <underpressure> All this hardware and software magic these days... unbelievable.
[09:40] <herpderphurr> According to this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2218324 I should just use sudo do-release-upgrade -d (developmental version) to force an upgrade to 14.04. Should I follow that advice?
[09:40] <MonkeyDust> herpderphurr  i did it and it took hours... and you have to stay present to confirm some changes
[09:41] <aszen> acetakwas: I've choosed sda for boot loader instalaltion, same result "??? ???" error...
[09:41] <herpderphurr> MonkeyDust: I can deal with that, since I have time for now.
[09:41] <cfhowlett> herpderphurr *or* you could until 14.04.1 comes out next month and not force anything ...
[09:41] <herpderphurr> cfhowlett: When does 14.04.1 come out?
[09:41] <cfhowlett> herpderphurr july
[09:42] <herpderphurr> cfhowlett: Any time more accurate?
[09:42] <MonkeyDust> herpderphurr  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseSchedule
[09:42] <herpderphurr> MonkeyDust: ty
[09:42] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust THAT's the factoid I was looking for!  tyvm
[09:43] <acetakwas> Hmmm..at this juncture
[09:43] <MonkeyDust> herpderphurr  wrong link
[09:43] <acetakwas> Could u google what the ???? Error means during Ubuntu installation
[09:43] <aszen> well thats not helpfull
[09:43] <aszen> since its "??? ???"
[09:43] <MonkeyDust> herpderphurr  july 24th https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[09:44] <herpderphurr> MonkeyDust: Ah, so it's right after 13.10's EOL. Thank you
[09:44] <aszen> googling ubuntu+"??? ???" wont help
[09:44] <underpressure> What kind of performance will windows have inside a virtualbox? Is it close to native?
[09:44] <YamakasY> anyone know how to automount webdav ?
[09:45] <MonkeyDust> underpressure  i have windows xp in virtualbox, it's fast ok
[09:45] <Artpicre> Hello, I would like to know where is the file that configures my connection sharing ?
[09:45] <Artpicre> I use the built-in function to share my connection
[09:45] <acetakwas> I'm almost blank right now
[09:46] <parapan> hi fellows ..have a problem with a laptop, running 3.2.0.-60-generic -pae kernel ....cannot load the graphical mode ...any suggestions ?
[09:46] <Artpicre> Masquerade I think
[09:46] <aszen> acetakwas: me too... thats why I'm here :P
[09:46] <parapan> ubuntu 12.04 LTS . .
[09:47] <underpressure> I have an old windows vista CD here .. maybe I should install that in the vm :)
[09:47] <parapan> if I run startx the error is Fatal server error > no screens found ...
[09:49] <rietdijk> @underpressure: have fun
[09:49] <herpderphurr> cfhowlett, MonkeyDust: interestingly enough, after a reboot, I now have a release upgrade prompt from Software Updater.
[09:49] <aszen> acetakwas: hmm now I tried something else, and the wizard is copying files
[09:49] <herpderphurr> I changed nothing except a sudo apt-get update
[09:49] <aszen> lets see where this ends...
[09:50] <acetakwas> Okay
[09:51] <aszen> acetakwas: "Installation Complete - restart now"
[09:51] <acetakwas> Hmmmmm...great!
[09:51] <aszen> acetakwas: hmm it booted?!
[09:51] <aszen> wtf?!
[09:51] <aszen> sec
[09:51] <aszen> investigating..
[09:52] <tsunamie> Hi guys, I have set the value for ulimits for soft and hard ulimts in /etc/security/limits.conf
[09:52] <tsunamie> . However when I check /proc/PID/limits the file still says the default 65536 as max fopen files
[09:54] <aszen> acetakwas: weird, I'll install gparted and check how the disk layout looks like
[09:54] <acetakwas>  
[09:55] <aszen> to me it looks like that I had to run the installation wizard twice while he sucessfully creates the disk layout but dies afterwards, and with the second try it will use the existing disk layout
[09:55] <aszen> terrible :-/
[09:55] <acetakwas> Do 'blkid' from terminal
[09:55] <aszen> sec
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> sudo blkid, rather, or lsblk
[09:55] <aszen> acetakwas: I see sda and sdb
[09:56] <aszen> and the mapper stuff (OS1 -> vfat, OS2 -> swap, OS3 -> ext4)
[09:56] <acetakwas> So then ur disk is the mapper and sda is for the SSD
[09:56] <aszen> weird... something must be broken with the installation wizard of ubuntu 13.10 and 14
[09:57] <acetakwas>  
[09:57] <somedude123> hi, can somebody help me with my NFS server config ? There are problems with squashing and uid/gids ?
[09:57] <tsunamie> anyone know why?
[09:59] <acetakwas> Aszen: ohoh gotta go
[09:59] <aszen> acetakwas: ack, thx anyway
[09:59] <tsunamie> nvm
[09:59] <tsunamie> just worked it out
[10:00] <acetakwas> Aite
[10:00] <tsunamie> it takes on the value set from the shell
[10:06] <jack> shame steam can't be updated via apt-get :/
[10:07] <jack> ok this time it downloads only 58mb
[10:07] <jack> but still
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> jack  join #ubuntu-steam for more detailed help
[10:10] <jack> MonkeyDust, oh wow? so tons of people are complaining?
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> jack  not sure what you are talking about
[10:12] <jack> steam crap
[10:12] <jack> probably annoys like everyone who ever started it
[10:12] <k1l_> jack: you dont need to rant about  steam in here. if you dont like it dont use it.
[10:12] <jack> yeahyeah :)
[10:13] <Ben64> nobody complains about it, it's actually pretty awesome. support is just at #ubuntu-steam
[10:13] <jack> kk
[10:13] <Leong44> I don't see how any self-respecting Ubuntu user can think Steam is good, it's a terrible source of DRM
[10:14] <Leong44> I expect the same people complain about Flash
[10:14] <jack> Leong44, well
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> Leong44  you don't like vbox, you don't like steam, keep your feelings for yourself please
[10:15] <jack> flash is just to damn good to miss it
[10:15] <jack> opensource or not
[10:15] <k1l_> Leong44: jack you are free to talk about that topic in #ubuntu-offtopic . this channel is for actual technical issues. not what people like most or dont like
[10:15] <jack> *too
[10:16] <Leong44> MonkeyDust: It's not that I don't like VirtualBox, I was advising someone that it's barely maintained while VMWare is a proper commercial product with decent support
[10:16] <jack> ok
[10:17] <Hounddog> Hmmm trying to add a desktop file so i can add a program to the launcher... The program is not showing but am not getting any error either... i am using desktop-file-install to install the file though
[10:18] <Hounddog> http://pastebin.com/wLzQ10Ri this is the current file i am using
[10:19] <bencc> can I enable java on chrome on ubuntu?
[10:22] <kev_> exit
[10:24] <jost> Hi! I've got an infected Ubuntu 12.04 server here, the attacker seems to have gained access to an unprivileged account, and has started some processes. How do I properly lock the account down and then kill the processes?
[10:24] <Ben64> jost: turn it off, format and reinstall
[10:25] <jost> Ben64: ok. Thats my plan, but I want to investigate first
[10:25] <vak0160> there's also a risk of re-infection
[10:26] <Ben64> jost: you should consider the entire machine compromised at this point
[10:28] <jost> Ben64: I do  that, but we need to get the data from it. The infection seems to have started before our oldest backup
[10:29] <jost> so, back to the question: How do I lock down that account (for now), so it can't run more stuff?
[10:30] <manviewpls> i'm trying to get mouse scrolling for less manviewer
[10:30] <manviewpls> any ideas ? help ?
[10:31] <cfhowlett> !server|jost
[10:33] <makara> hi. Trying to get 2 printers to work. I setup up 14.04 to use recommended printer settings for a Toshiba eStudio series 2050C and 3055C. But I the print job stops and both printers print a page with the line "Unrecoverable error: rangecheck in .putdeviceprops"
[10:36] <jack> manviewpls, use your keyboard :P
[10:36] <jack> less is mouse-less
[10:37] <histo> manviewpls: gpm
[10:37] <sveta> gpm++
[10:37] <somedude123> hi, can somebody help me with my NFS server config ? I have  problems with squashing and uid/gids
[10:37] <sveta> (except i couldnt find a sane cli browser with images, css, and js)
[10:37] <histo> somedude123: squashing what?
[10:37] <sveta> try #ubuntu-server somedude123 and ask them the full question please
[10:37] <histo> sveta: there isn't one. try dwb for X
[10:38] <manviewpls> it's 2014, i like to keep it minimal with my keyboard but micro sensitive scrolling saves you billions of neuron connections mate
[10:38] <histo> !info gpm | manviewpls
[10:38] <sveta> histo: for x, i have plenty of options, but i really think of working without x -- a lot of charming things like file manager, music player, torrent thingie, disk analyser work there
[10:41] <somedude123> histo: There is a dir on Server A (the NFS server) in which files are uploaded. This dir is mounted over NFS on Server B. Now i would like to squash ownership of files and give them a specific uid/gid
[10:48] <histo> sveta: yeah I also am longing for a full featured framebuffer browser
[10:49] <histo> somedude123: ok, you were confusing me with the usage of squash there.
[10:50] <histo> somedude123: http://serverfault.com/questions/240897/how-to-properly-set-permissions-for-nfs-folder-permission-denied-on-mounting-en
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> somedude123  find "squash" on this page, is it useful : http://www.howtoforge.com/setting-up-an-nfs-server-and-client-on-ubuntu-10.04
[10:51] <histo> somedude123: http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/ar01s07.html#pemission_issues
[10:51] <somedude123> i have no permission issues
[10:52] <somedude123> the problem is that the nfs server is not assigning new uid/gids after squashing to anon/nobody ids
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> somedude123  may be beyond the scope of this channel, try #ubuntu-server
[10:53] <histo> somedude123: did you see in the last link I posted specifically about anonuid and anongid
[10:53] <shr3k> Hey everyone, I have a ubuntu VPS with ispconfig3 on it.  Just rebooted today due to lack of emails coming through and general maintenance and getting stuck at "Stopping userspace bootsplash" I've googled it and so far found nothing, only managed to get into a initramfs prompt and the Help isn't leading me anywhere fast!  How can I view the log files on initramfs?
[10:53] <histo> somedude123: there is also /join #nfs
[10:54] <crazyhorse> ok.. i can't get sharing a folder to work in ubuntu
[10:54] <crazyhorse> i share it, and then from osx open it up  and it just says "there was a problem connecting to the server"
[10:55] <somedude123> histo: yes i did, IMHO i have correct /etc/exports config with anonuid and anongid set
[10:55] <histo> somedude123: both have to still agree on nobody
[10:56] <Steve512> Argh every 1 on dis irc server BE SO BIRING!
[10:56] <histo> shr3k: you should be able to mount still and view /var/log/*
[10:57] <histo> crazyhorse: sharing it via what protocol?
[10:57] <somedude123> histo: both servers have identical uid and gid for nobody/nogroup
[10:57] <crazyhorse> histo: whatever's built into ubuntu
[10:57] <crazyhorse> histo: i'm guessing it'd be samba
[10:58] <histo> somedude123: try asking in #nfs they may have a quicker answer
[10:58] <shr3k> histo, thanks, will try now and see what's happening!
[10:58] <somedude123> ok ty
[10:58] <histo> crazyhorse: can you mount other windows shares via mac?
[10:59] <crazyhorse> yeah
[10:59] <crazyhorse> just works
[10:59] <histo> crazyhorse: did you share with guest access
[10:59] <crazyhorse> yes
[10:59] <crazyhorse> i also tried with a user as well
[10:59] <histo> crazyhorse: open a terminal on the mac and run smbtree
[11:00] <crazyhorse> hmm don't have it installed
[11:01] <crazyhorse> also to get it it looks like you have to go macports > install samba 3 -> then run it
[11:01] <histo> crazyhorse: So the mac can see the share but not connect
[11:01] <crazyhorse> yes
[11:02] <histo> crazyhorse: ont he ubuntu machine try sudo restart samba
[11:03] <crazyhorse> yeah sudo restart smdb
[11:03] <crazyhorse> still no luck.. i've also removed and created the share a few times
[11:03] <sveta> histo: iirc framebuffer involves converting things to "frames" (like X) and then to cli, but I might find that step redundant - need to look at it closer
[11:04] <histo> sveta: there isn't a browser out there that will do that.
[11:06] <shr3k> @histo In initramfs, do you know how to mount the filesystem, obviously can use mount but tried /dev/disk/ /dev/sg0/ these are not working :/ Sorry!
[11:06] <histo> shr3k: lsblk  to show your disks then mount /dev/sdX# /to/some/directory
[11:07] <shr3k> this initramfs prompt doesnt have lsblk
[11:07] <histo> shr3k: hold up
[11:08] <histo> shr3k: fdisk -l
[11:08]  * histo forgot he was in busybox
[11:08] <shr3k> (fdisk not found)
[11:09] <histo> shr3k: perhaps your not in busybox.. type help
[11:09] <shr3k> theres a busybox in /bin
[11:09] <histo> shr3k: mount /dev/sda1 /root
[11:10] <shr3k> No such file or directory, I'll keep trying down this root, might be something
[11:10] <histo> shr3k: what does ls   show?
[11:11] <shr3k> no such file or directory
[11:11] <histo> shr3k: pwd ?
[11:12] <histo> shr3k: blkid
[11:12] <histo> shr3k: who provides this vps?
[11:12] <shr3k> Digital Ocean
[11:12] <histo> shr3k: it sounds as if there is something wrong with your /root
[11:12] <histo> shr3k: what were you doing before the crash? and do you have backups?
[11:13] <shr3k> It was a fresh ispconfig3 install using the "Perfect Server" noticed a few emails were being bounced with failed to connect to 127.0.0.1, rebooted... Worse mistake ever
[11:14] <histo> shr3k: how fresh of an install?
[11:14] <shr3k> Backup from install, 3 days
[11:14] <shr3k> Installed 3 days ago, mail problems this morning
[11:14] <histo> shr3k: you may want to contact digital ocean
[11:14] <shr3k> ok thanks!
[11:15] <shr3k> Mounted the /dev/vda /root
[11:15] <shr3k> got the files now, but not sure it this is recoverable
[11:16] <histo> shr3k: vda interesting....
[11:16] <qknight_> i've got a ubuntu 12.04 lts running but ufw logging seems to be broken. i've tried 'ufw logging medium' and did various nmap trances and there not even a single line of lgging in /var/log/ufw.log, what could be the cause? (on my other ubuntu pc, mabye a different version of ubuntu, it works)
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> shr3k  /dev/vda points to a virtual machine, it says here... are you virtualizing something?
[11:21] <shr3k> Nope :/
[11:21] <shr3k> Just set up the "perfect server"... ispconfig3 and moved a few websites over and emails etc
[11:22] <shr3k> It' a vps itself from DO
[11:23] <shr3k> btw, another noob moment... Is there a reader in initramfs, staring at the help list fo programs and can't see one...
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> shr3k  ah yes, the v from vps also mean virtual, that's the link
[11:23] <shr3k> ok!
[11:25] <histo> shr3k: less ?
[11:25] <shr3k> Just seen tail... Long night
[11:26] <histo> shr3k: less and more should be there.
[11:26] <shr3k> less not found
[11:26] <shr3k> more is though!
[11:27] <Mattias> I have i3, and run xorg using ubuntu 14, which starts up gdm first thing. I have a dual head setup and I am trying to use xcalib to apply invertion of colors and icc profiles. The thing is, using -d and -s only -d :0 seems to be available, and no matter what I do xcalib only apply changes to the first monitor. Is there something I'm missing? I've tried -d :0 up to :6 and :0.0 variants. xrandr --query reports
[11:27] <Mattias> only one display and one screen, a gigantic mix of both screens at 3840x1200px
[11:28] <Kartagis> I purged SCIM. how can I get rid of its behaviour without having to logout/back in?
[11:28] <Mattias> i3 seems to be able to see them as two screens, which makes it possible to have one workspace per screen.
[11:33] <nectarys_> hi, how to set the color of conky to semi-transparent (gray), please ?
[11:35] <innocent95> Hi
[11:36] <histo> nectarys_: no semi transparent font color that I know of.
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> nectarys_  is this useful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1297883
[11:36] <histo> Kartagis: what is SCIM?
[11:36] <innocent95> When i click the input method configuration i get a window : Current configuration for the input method:
[11:36] <innocent95>  * Active configuration: none (normally missing)... etc written there ?
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> SCIM : Smart Common Input Method
[11:40] <Kartagis> !info scim | histo
[11:41] <dan[work]> I am having difficulty getting ubuntu to detect my camera's sd card, nothing happens when I plug it in
[11:41] <innocent95> I'm getting another window when trying to configure input method ?
[11:41] <innocent95> what should i do ?
[11:43] <dan[work]> I have searched ubuntu's launchpad which says 'SD Host controller: O2 Micro, Inc. Device 8520' is supported
[11:54] <diego1> hello
[11:55] <Guest9674> hello
[11:57] <lexus00z> Guest9674,heloo
[12:12] <orbisvicis> i have this annoying problem with the *rxvt or xterm (but not gnome-terminal): screen redraws are completely broken. usually half the screen refreshes, half display old data
[12:16] <hipitihop> I seem to have some sort of dns issue which I don't understand. local.deisapp.com has a public dns record for 172.17.8.100 but I am unable to resolve it with a ping from any machine on my network.  "unknown host local.deisapp.com" I don't seem to have other dns symptoms. Can someone point me at docs to help me debug this pls
[12:16] <hipitihop> I'm on 12.04
[12:17] <abhie2e> how to install bind 9.10.0 in ubuntu from some kind of repo?
[12:19] <Ar_GuNner> i'm working with Berkely SOckets i need help
[12:21] <mateusz_> hi
[12:21] <ydwhku> hahaa
[12:21] <ydwhku> 这是
[12:21] <ydwhku> 什么??
[12:25] <hipitihop> abhie2e, are you trying to update to a specific or later version ? on my system 12.04 it seems to already be there. Does yours list when you do 'apt-cache show bind'
[12:25] <nep1x> Hi. Does anybody remember which is the command to notify a terminal with the new info of a file you just have modified?
[12:26] <abhie2e> hipitihop, its 14.04 and the one in repo is not 9.10.0
[12:26] <abhie2e> hipitihop, its 9.5 in repo
[12:27] <hipitihop> abhie2e, right, sorry can't help.
[12:27] <abhie2e> :-(
[12:28] <abhie2e> hipitihop, i get error geoip path not found while compiling from source --with-geoip
[12:30] <apb1963> nep1x: why would you have to  notify a terminal about modifying a file?
[12:30] <hipitihop> abhie2e, again, sorry, not much experience with compile from source and certainly not bind. Sounds a little scary as bind is pretty low level afaik
[12:30] <abhie2e> hipitihop, ok. np.
[12:31] <nep1x> eg, when you change the global var PATH in .bashrc file so you want to have your updated var without having to restart your terminal
[12:31] <abhie2e> nep1x, source /path/fise
[12:31] <abhie2e> file
[12:31] <nep1x> ok
[12:31] <nep1x> thanks guys
[12:36] <innocent95> what to do for this window of input method ?
[12:37] <innocent95> Current configuration for the input method:
[12:37] <innocent95>  * Active configuration: none (normally missing)
[12:37] <innocent95>  * Automatic configuration: none (normally ibus or fcitx or uim)
[12:37] <innocent95>  * Number of valid choices: 1 (normally 1)
[12:40] <ajf> Hey, is there an equivalent to OS X’s open command?
[12:40] <ajf> That will open an app without it hogging the terminal?
[12:40] <ajf> gedit &
[12:40] <ajf> detach
[12:40] <ajf> isn’t so nice
[12:42] <innocent95> can anybody tell me what's this Explicit selection is not required to enable the automatic configuration if the active one is default/auto/cjkv/missing. ?
[12:43] <Fuchs> ajf: foo & disown
[12:43] <Fuchs> ajf: or use something like screen or tmux
[12:43] <ajf> :(
[12:43] <ajf> Guess I’ll have to write myself a script
[12:43] <ajf> Welp
[12:43] <innocent95> What should i do ?
[12:43] <innocent95> please tell me
[12:44] <innocent95> I want to access the input method
[12:44] <philinux> ajf;~ gedit & disown
[12:45] <ajf> you can just do & disown?
[12:45] <philinux> yep
[12:45] <ajf> I thought it had to be a separate line
[12:45] <philinux> nope
[12:45] <philinux> ajf;~ try it
[12:45] <ajf> wow
[12:46] <ajf> thanks :)
[12:46] <philinux> ajf;~ gedit & disown & exit
[12:47] <Guest47355> join#ubuntu-cn
[12:47] <philinux> ajf;~ whatever you need
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> ajf  you caught my attention, what are doing?
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> are you*
[12:47] <ajf> MonkeyDust: Opening apps from terminal is more convenient
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> ajf  there's gnome-open
[12:47] <ajf> For example, I’d rather do gedit [Ctrl+V] & disown
[12:48] <ajf> MonkeyDust: Does that do what I’m thinking of?
[12:48] <amitprakash> Hi, on trying to run linux64 ubd0=./uml-root-ubuntu umid=uml1, I get a linux64: ubd0=./uml-root-ubuntu: No such file or directory
[12:48] <amitprakash> How do I resolve this?
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> ajf  if I unde'rstand you well: gnome-open photo.jpg
[12:49] <ajf> Right, though most of the time I know the specific app
[12:49] <ajf> Thanks anyway though
[12:49] <aledzadza> lol how do i login with nickserv? ><
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> aledzadza  /msg nickserv identify [password]
[12:50] <aledzadza> MonkeyDust: thanks
[12:53] <joelio> what's the current best practive for remastering alternate isos - uck broken in Trusty and looks like it's been abandoned
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> joelio  remastersys comes to mind
[12:55] <bob__> joelio, isomaster
[12:55] <bob__> joelio, oruse ubuntu-remaster
[12:55] <bob__> you can install it from ppa
[12:56] <philinux> I dont think remastersys is maintained now but it should still work
[12:56] <bob__> philinux, you are right it's not maintained, but it still works if you wanna make a live distro, but for installing custom distro's use isomaster, with preseed
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> !info isomaster
[13:00] <Bobby_Tables> hi, is anyone here awesome at samba? i could use some help
[13:01] <TuxRescue> hello, where can i find that graphical keyboard layout thingie that displays after the first boot?
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> TuxRescue  try orca
[13:02] <TuxRescue> that was not funny
[13:02] <TuxRescue> how do i turn that crap off?
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> TuxRescue  it was a mistake... ps x | grep orca, then kill the pid
[13:04] <bob__> MonkeyDust, cause for some reason "killall orca" wont work ?
[13:04] <TuxRescue> i shudder by the thought that this "orca" stuff is meant to help blind people
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> TuxRescue  what bob__ says
[13:04] <CPR_Dummy> anyone know about samba / windows discovery?
[13:05] <bob__> CPR_Dummy, what about it ?
[13:06] <TuxRescue> so back to my question, please. after the first boot an image is displayed with the keyboard shortcuts for unity
[13:06] <TuxRescue> where can i find this?
[13:08] <bob__> TuxRescue, you could just google image the last part of your qustion "keyboard shortcuts for unity"
[13:08] <philinux> TuxRescue;~ press and hold the win key
[13:08] <ocoxo> hello, I have a problem with liferea feed reader..the dedicated channel is not responding, can maybe a liferea user help me here? the problem is that the newsbing gets deleted everytime the program is ended, whereas it should keep items even after the feed itself may be deleted.
[13:09] <ocoxo> newsbin*
[13:09] <TuxRescue> right, i could use google instead of IRC. so true
[13:10] <lesshaste_> does i686 mean 32 or 64 bit (from uname)
[13:10] <Ben64> 32
[13:10] <ocoxo> I tried the alternative installs on liferea homepage, but neither tar nor git installs worked, both giving errors
[13:11] <bob__> Ben64, wat ?
[13:12] <TuxRescue> do you guys realize that your community is gone and you start to act arrogant like debian developers?
[13:12] <CPR_Dummy> ocoxo: maybe it's a permissions problem? the app can't write data to the folder?
[13:12] <bob__> TuxRescue, You mean I sound like an arrogant debian developer ?
[13:12] <nectarys> hi, how do I set a transparent background color to CONKY please  ??
[13:12] <TuxRescue> with the difference that _they_ created something of value and not just modify stuff
[13:13] <Pici> TuxRescue: iirc, if you hold down the super button (windows key) it will show you the unity shortcuts.
[13:13] <bob__> TuxRescue, what are you so mad about ? did I say something that upset you ?
[13:13] <CPR_Dummy> nectarys: own_window_transparent yes
[13:13] <TuxRescue> forget it, i am done for another 5 weeks
[13:13] <trijntje> !google | bob__
[13:13] <bob__> damn, I wish I could have told him I am not a part of the ubuntu community, but just a bob nobody likes :(
[13:14] <ocoxo> CPR_Dummy, but the liferea folder is created by liferea itself. can it be possible?
[13:14] <CPR_Dummy> well I am just trouble shooting. I don't know really.
[13:14] <bob__> trijntje, I tried to help him though !
[13:14] <CPR_Dummy> ocoxo:
[13:15] <nectarys> CPR_Dummy, I did, but I'm trying to set a background color to gray to be displayed as transparent background but it wouldn't work
[13:15] <bob__> trijntje, and I though, what would  I do if i was in th situation; google image the question
[13:15] <CPR_Dummy> ocoxo: try to chmod the whole folder
[13:15] <ocoxo> CPR_Dummy, I will try now
[13:15] <CPR_Dummy> nectarys: did you restart conky?
[13:15] <CPR_Dummy> nectarys: someones you need to fully restart it for updates to show
[13:15] <nectarys> CPR_Dummy, yes I did, I've also restarted my PC
[13:15] <CPR_Dummy> well you dont need to restart pc
[13:16] <CPR_Dummy> hmm
[13:16] <CPR_Dummy> post your conky to pastebin i'll take a look for you
[13:17] <heap_> hi, while upgrade ubuntu from 13.10 to 14.04, i got to much errors into logs, about packages, dpgk exits and so on... system booted up but can i somehow correct those errors?
[13:18] <ocoxo> CPR_Dummy, I tried changing permissions via GUI properties. there appears my name as user. is this correct?
[13:19] <ocoxo> both as owner and group
[13:19] <CPR_Dummy> try to add a feed
[13:19] <CPR_Dummy> and then click "update" in liferea
[13:19] <CPR_Dummy> and then quit
[13:19] <CPR_Dummy> and restart
[13:21] <abhie2e> i installed bind from source. it installed named at /usr/local/sbin/named but service bind9 start try to locate it at /usr/sbin/named. how can i solve this error?
[13:22] <heap_> msgs like that Fontconfig error: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/65-khmer.conf", line 14: out of memory
[13:22] <ocoxo> CPR_Dummy, seems it didnt help to change permissions..I added a feed item to the bin by clicking on 'copy to news bin'..when I restarted, it was gone.
[13:22] <heap_> Errors were encountered while processing: plymouth-label
[13:22] <heap_> <list of packages>
[13:22] <heap_> and Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
[13:23] <rantic> Hi everyone, has anyone successfully gotten ffmpeg working in 14.04 64bit?
[13:28] <Leong44> rantic: Yes
[13:33] <cyborg_> can someone help me with assigning a driver to a usb device that is intended to be a midi controller but may be looked at as a HID device in ubunt
[13:35] <ocoxo> I tried alternative installs on liferea homepage, but neither tar nor git installs worked, both giving these errors, respectively: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7700449/   http://paste.ubuntu.com/7700450/
[13:35] <kdz> i was looking at some hdd apps the other day and saw one of my drives is out of alignment or something by 512 bytes, how do i fix it?
[13:37] <sydney> !details| kdz
[13:37] <kdz> aww sydney i tried my best :P:
[13:37] <Juju_> someone who knows to use qjackctl
[13:40] <n1n0> is kubuntu or xubuntu more simmilar to ubuntu, and which does not use lightdm?
[13:45] <LittleBoy> hello, is it possible to install ubuntu to my desktop via USB-memorystick? Im aware of the "live" version, but id wanna have a bootable. Im also a noob
[13:46] <kdz> LittleBoy its very much possible
[13:46] <kdz> ive done it a few times :D
[13:46] <LittleBoy> kdz: how can I do it? I just wanna install it via usb stick because i dont have cd's
[13:47] <kdz> i forget the name of the software
[13:47] <LittleBoy> I tried doing it earlier and only succeeded in getting the "live" version but no permanent install
[13:47] <kdz> but its as easy as selecting the iso and then choosing the usb drive
[13:47] <kdz> wam bam
[13:47] <kdz> LittleBoy so u do have ubuntu on usb?
[13:47] <kdz> and u want to transfer it to another usb as a full os?
[13:47] <n1n0> LittleBoy Universal usb installer
[13:48] <kdz> yes thats it
[13:48] <LittleBoy> I had some live version which I thought was the permanent install
[13:48] <sydney> n1n0: I am pretty sure that only the main ubuntu version uses lightdm,but i am not sure.
[13:49] <n1n0> sydney thank you
[13:49] <LittleBoy> kdz:  so I download 14.04 LTS 64bit normally, and then  what? :S
[13:50] <kdz> LittleBoy is the live install on a usb drive?
[13:51] <n1n0> LittleBoy format the usb
[13:51] <LittleBoy> okay
[13:51] <n1n0> and use the universal usb instaler to boot from it
[13:57] <LittleBoy> n1n0:  is this Universal USB installer permanent? I dont wanna use my usb stick to boot from later on
[13:57] <n1n0> u can format it later
[13:58] <LittleBoy> do I need file size for storing changes?
[13:58] <kdz> i used to run freenas off a usb
[13:58] <kdz> so its def possible
[13:59] <LittleBoy> yea but I dont wanna run it through an USB, i just wanna use it for install :P
[14:01] <LittleBoy> n1n0:  so what next I just boot with the usb stick?
[14:04] <LittleBoy> Will I be able to have dualboot with this?
[14:04] <LittleBoy> for win7 too?
[14:04] <underpressure> Ben64: Hello, are you here?
[14:04] <Ben64> not for long
[14:04] <underpressure> Ben64: I installed ubuntu now. But I still only have OpenGL1.1 in vbox.
[14:05] <innocent95> Hi
[14:05] <Ben64> you need the guest additions
[14:05] <underpressure>  /set show_nickmode_empty off
[14:05] <underpressure> Ben64: i installed them
[14:05] <Ben64> opengl2.0 has been in vbox for years
[14:05] <Ben64> maybe ask in #vbox then?
[14:05] <innocent95> I'm getting another window when trying to configure the input method on ubuntu ?
[14:05] <underpressure> Ben64: i can try. but there usualy is nobody.
[14:06] <n1n0> LittleBoy http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[14:06] <xnikos13> anyone who could help with a grub problem?
[14:06] <suokunlong> hi, when edit input fields in web browser the contents in the input box is cleared, is this issue know?
[14:07] <suokunlong> this do not happen in other OS.
[14:08] <kev_> hello
[14:08] <vimagick> hi
[14:10] <underpressure> Everybody: Im running win8.1 in vbox with guest additions. I would like to run daz3d. but daz3d complains it needs opengl1.3 and only opengl1.1 is available. i have installed the guest additions. any ideas?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> underpressure: I'd ask in #vbox
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> underpressure: I dont think  it will perform very well
[14:11] <underpressure> ActionParsnip: i have seen nobody there for like 5 hours now.
[14:11] <underpressure> my only other option would be to install windows natively which makes me a bit uncomfortable
[14:13] <suokunlong> hi....input fields issue in ubuntu, this is serious. not happen in other OS, it happens in FIrefox and Chrome in Ubuntu.
[14:13] <Leong44> underpressure: Use VMWare
[14:13] <underpressure> Leong44: is that in the ubuntu repos?
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> suokunlong: can you expand the question please
[14:14] <Leong44> underpressure: No, on their website. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Player
[14:15] <ij0n> hello, how can I delete the stored user and password for a webdav-folder, that I mounted in Nautilus? I am trying to make a tutorial and need to see the window for password and username again, so I can take a screenshot
[14:16] <Darxx> hello after upgrade to ubuntu 14.04 I can`t login
[14:16] <xnikos13> Hi,I get this after a successfull installation: error: no such partition.
[14:16] <xnikos13> Entering rescue mode...
[14:16] <xnikos13> grub rescue>
[14:17] <xnikos13> any help?
[14:18] <ij0n> xnikos13: use live-cd or usb-stick to boot. check what partitions you have.
[14:18] <suokunlong> ActionParsnip: For example, on this link: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80117
[14:19] <suokunlong> when you login, there is a "(edit)" link on the right side of the line "Bug 80117 -        UI: Several seconds delay until dialog appears after click on icon "Hyperlink" for first access"
[14:19] <Darxx> QUESTION After update to 14.04 I can`t login? I see login dialogs. Still after adding correct pass I can`t login. I see white rectangle in the bottom
[14:19] <xnikos13> I'm in live cd right now.everything looks fine. http://pastebin.com/bAGCRfy7
[14:19] <suokunlong> ActionParsnip: and when I click the "edit" link, the text inside the bug summary field is cleared (disappeared)
[14:20] <biledemon> anyone using a gaming mouse on linux? Always hear of how fast they are, but are they smooth and "fine-grained"? like good for precise control?
[14:20] <biledemon> never used a gaming mouse myself
[14:21] <ij0n> anyone here who knows Nautilus really good?
[14:21] <ij0n> hello, how can I delete the stored user and password for a webdav-folder, that I mounted in Nautilus? I am trying to make a tutorial and need to see the window for password and username again, so I can take a screenshot
[14:21] <Leong44> Lol @ gaming mouse, it's marketing BS
[14:21] <suokunlong> ActionParsnip: this behaviour not only happen for this single field. It also happen to "Depends on" field on that page
[14:21] <Darxx> sudo Nautilus
[14:21] <ocoxo> hello, under 'updates' in software sources I see that unspoorted updates (backports) are enabled..does it mean that installs of newer versions are available for me? if yes, how can I see/install them?
[14:22] <ocoxo> unsupported* updates
[14:22] <bcvery> biledemon, not really an Ubuntu question so not really on topic, but good mice are good, and cheap mice are cheap, most gaming mice are good quality but over priced because of the word 'gaming'
[14:22] <LittleBoy> n1n0:  its not working for some reason. I get to the option "install ubuntu inside windows" and then it reboots and the installation starts all over again.
[14:22] <underpressure> Leong44: uhmm... you have to compile vmware yourself?
[14:22] <suokunlong> suokunlong: and also one related issue is, in some website which has online text editors, when I select the text and try to apply "bold" or "underline", the text is deleted instead
[14:23] <Leong44> underpressure: No, it's a graphical installer
[14:23] <suokunlong> ActionParsnip: and also one related issue is, in some website which has online text editors, when I select the text and try to apply "bold" or "underline", the text is deleted instead
[14:23] <underpressure> Leong44: why do you have to install build-essentials first?
[14:24] <biledemon> bcvery: my current cheap mouse is crap at photo editing, so I thought maybe a more expensive "gaming" mouse would be more precise?
[14:25] <bcvery> biledemon, yes, it most probably would - may I suggest #hardware would be a better place for this discussion
[14:26] <biledemon> bcvery: ok, thanks
[14:26] <DineroxInternet> Alguien conoce a alguna persona que le gustaria ganar dinero por internet solo por navegar en paginas? no importa de que pais sean no es necesario invertir dinero - Anyone know someone who would like to earn money just by surfing on internet pages? no matter what country you are do not need to invest money - Alguém conhece alguém que gostaria de ganhar dinheiro apenas por navegar em páginas
[14:26] <DineroxInternet> da Internet? não importa em que país você está não precisa investir dinheiro - MAIL: negociosporinternet@telmexmail.com
[14:27] <bcvery> !es | DineroxInternet
[14:28] <LittleBoy> hello can someone help me with my ubuntu install
[14:28] <LittleBoy> from usb stick
[14:29] <cfhowlett> LittleBoy details?
[14:29] <cfhowlett> LittleBoy
[14:29] <cfhowlett> 1
[14:29] <cfhowlett> !ask\
[14:29] <cfhowlett> !ask
[14:29] <ij0n> !patience
[14:29] <LittleBoy> I used "Universal USB installer" program to install 14.04, the install goes fine until I chose "install ubuntu inside windows"
[14:29] <LittleBoy> then I click continue and suddenly everything terminates and it reboots
[14:29] <LittleBoy> back to square one of installation
[14:30] <nectarys> I'm trying to install conkyForecast, but when I do, I get this error message : W: Impossible de récupérer http://ppa.launchpad.net/conky-companions/ppa/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[14:30] <nectarys> how do I fix it please ?
[14:30] <cfhowlett> nectarys it's a ppa and not supported here
[14:30] <cfhowlett> !ppa
[14:30] <LittleBoy> cfhowlett: all processess ended after 32s. then the reboot happends
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> nectarys  it simply means the ppa is not available on that link
[14:31] <nectarys> cfhowlett, how do I then to install conkyForecast ?
[14:31] <cfhowlett> LittleBoy no idea.  sorry.
[14:31] <nectarys> MonkeyDust, how do I then to install conkyForecast, please ?
[14:31] <LittleBoy> cfhowlett:  can I perhaps install ubuntu by trying it first, and when im on the live version of ubuntu, could i somehow install it from there?
[14:31] <ecdhe> I want to delete all files in a directory that are writable.  I would do `rm -r dir/' but that prompts the user, and I'd like to avoid that.
[14:31] <cfhowlett> LittleBoy of course.
[14:32] <cfhowlett> LittleBoy bythee way, did it kick out at the same spot in the install process
[14:32] <LittleBoy> cfhowlett:  ahh doesnt work either. weird
[14:32] <LittleBoy> cfhowlett:  yes
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> nectarys  ask the Author: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/conkyforecast/2.02
[14:32] <xnikos13> anyone who knows grub well?It cannot detect the partition.
[14:32] <LittleBoy> cfhowlett:  I press try ubuntu it terminates right away
[14:32] <cfhowlett> LittleBoy errr ... ok, well, verify the ISO and USB
[14:32] <cfhowlett> !md5sum
[14:33] <LittleBoy> okay ill check it
[14:33] <cfhowlett> LittleBoy same thing verify your ISO and USB
[14:33] <ecdhe> I want to delete all files in a directory that are not marked 0444... any ideas?
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> ecdhe: prompts them for what?
[14:33] <ecdhe> rm -r without the -f asks, "are you sure you want to delete file marked read only?"
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> ecdhe: could use sudo.....
[14:34] <ecdhe> ActionParsnip, I don't want to force their deletion, I want to preserve the readonly files while deleting the writable ones.
[14:35] <LittleBoyUbuntu> cfhowlett:  hey, I got into Ubuntu using the trymethod, it worked after termination somehow. How can I proceed with the installation through here_
[14:35] <ecdhe> I tried nohup rm -r, but that has the same effect of rm -rf
[14:35] <LittleBoyUbuntu> ?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> ecdhe: then you will need some bash-fu, unless 'man rm' gives an option
[14:35] <cfhowlett> LittleBoy hit the dash and search for "install"
[14:36] <ecdhe> ActionParsnip, I tried the manpage for find, but it doesn't seem to be able to filter file mode permissions.
[14:36] <amitprakash> Hi, on removing libselinux1 I am getting a PreDepends: libselinux1 (>= 2.1.0) but it is not going to be installed
[14:36] <amitprakash> How do I resolve this?
[14:36] <LittleBoyUbuntu> cfhowlett: okay ill try if it works from here
[14:37] <ecdhe> ActionParsnip, I have bash-fu, it just seems like there's probably a one-liner for this.
[14:37] <amitprakash> I am trying to boot ubuntu in UML mode btw
[14:37] <cfhowlett> amitprakash "UML"    ?
[14:38] <amitprakash> cfhowlett, user mode linux
[14:38] <cfhowlett> amitprakash ah!  Thanks.  learn something everday!
[14:38] <eltriviato> hello ecdhe, you could readup on find, do a "man find", you will be able to match names with given modes, then pass the name onto a command which would be "rm" in this case.
[14:39] <ocoxo> hello back, how do I install dependencies of a package individually, in order to compile it thereafter? when I simply type 'sudo apt-get install dependencyname' it says 'unable to locate'
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> ecdhe: is rm aliased to 'rm -i' in ~/.bashrc ?
[14:40] <eltriviato> angain to ecdhe: do an ls -al and capture the output, get it into a text editor which has regular expressions, delete the rows you want to keep, transform the others into "rm" commands, run it
[14:40] <n1n0> LittleBoy you can only install it beside windows
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> ocoxo  my guess: first: 'apt-cache depends' to get a list, then: apt-get download [foo]
[14:41] <LittleBoy> cfhowlett: didnt work, whole ubuntu crashed. I will have to do the md5 check now
[14:41] <Guido1> I have a question about setting up my new laptop. i heard that it is better not to charge the laptop for 100 %, but 90 or 95. how can i set it up in xubuntu that it only charges until than and gives a notification?
[14:41] <LittleBoy> n1n0:  yeah the option "install ubuntu inside windows" makes a dual boot
[14:42] <ocoxo> MonkeyDust, hello, it's still about liferea, though on a different problem..I wrote to you that I solved the problem from yesterday, if you read my post
[14:42] <LittleBoy> the other option would be replacing
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> ocoxo  i'm not at my desk the whole time, must have missed something
[14:42] <n1n0> LittleBoy, yes, so you can replace it
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> ecdhe: you'd need to 'grep' the 'ls -l' output for each file, as eltriviato says for each file, if there is a 'w' for the owner access, then delete that file
[14:43] <lubuntuuser> hello
[14:43] <n1n0> or make a partition for it to dual boot
[14:43] <lubuntuuser> i got a problem with a usb modem on lubuntu
[14:44] <lubuntuuser> cant get lubuntu to make it work
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> lubuntuuser: 3G by any chance?
[14:44] <ocoxo> MonkeyDust, the problem with liferea saying 'proxy connection refused' can be due to the network setting in system settings..if 'manual' is selected but no details are entered, the connection is refused. changing the proxy setting to 'none' solved the problem in my casew
[14:44] <ocoxo> case*
[14:44] <lubuntuuser> it says on the usb 4g
[14:44] <lubuntuuser> does that matter?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> lubuntuuser: run:  lsusb    use the 8 character hex id to find guides
[14:44] <lubuntuuser> 1076:7f00
[14:44] <lubuntuuser> theres the 8 char hex
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> lubuntuuser: ok, now use the web to see how to set it up, use that ID
[14:45] <lubuntuuser> i just type that?
[14:45] <ecdhe> eltriviato, I got it.
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> lubuntuuser: yes and addthe word 'ubuntu'
[14:45] <Pici> ecdhe: er... you should just be able to do find /path/ -maxdepth 1 -not -perm 0444 -delete
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> lubuntuuser: never searched the web before?
[14:45] <lubuntuuser> nope
[14:45] <ecdhe> for the IRC logs, the command I wanted is find -perm -u=w | xargs rm
[14:45] <lubuntuuser> just kidding
[14:45] <ecdhe> Thanks Pici!
[14:46] <lubuntuuser> ok got it
[14:46] <Pici> ecdhe: feel free to remove/change the maxdepth paramter if you want to fully recurse through the directories. you may also want to add -type f to only delete files (not directories)
[14:47] <ocoxo> MonkeyDust, is the command to be typed just 'apt-cache depends' ?
[14:47] <Pici> ocoxo: Are you looking to install the build dependencies, or the actual package dependencies?
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> ocoxo  try: apt-cache depends liferea
[14:49] <ocoxo> Pici, it looks like build dependencies
[14:49] <ecdhe> Pici, I appreciate it.   I love find, I guess sometimes I gloss over after 10 minutes of reading man pages.
[14:50] <Pici> ocoxo: then just sudo apt-get build-dep packagename    will install all of the build dependencies for packagename
[14:50] <ocoxo> Pici, in which folder do I need to type the command, or does it matter?
[14:50] <LittleBoy> cfhowlett:  the sums work, but maybe this "universal usb installer" is not working properly with 14.04 LTS ?  It is weird because I do get into Ubuntu as "try", but when I try to install it crashes.
[14:50] <Pici> ocoxo: it doesn't matter.
[14:51] <LittleBoy> cfhowlett:  I also had an ubuntu 12.04 a year ago which I removed, could it be interfering somehow the installation? I dont have any boot option or similar left for it either
[14:51] <cfhowlett> LittleBoy try unetbootin to create the USB and/or a different USB stick
[14:51] <LittleBoy> cfhowlett:  okay
[14:53] <LittleBoy> cfhowlett:  should I give it some amount of space to perserve files accross reboots?
[14:53] <LittleBoy> across
[14:53] <ocoxo> Pici, but the tar package is from git. do dependencies from ubuntu repos match?
[14:53] <cfhowlett> LittleBoy I wouldn't - format the USB to wipe it clean and reinstall ubuntu with unetbootin
[14:53] <LittleBoy> ok
[14:53] <Pici> ocoxo: they should be close.
[14:54] <ocoxo> Pici, ok, I got it started
[14:56] <ocoxo> just noticed that it says 'maintenance release' for the latest version..does it mean it is ok to install and use it?
[14:56] <ja`> hello everyone. Did Ubuntu policy regarding new versions of Firefox has changed recently? I remember than in the past one would need to use ubuntuzilla or download a new Firefox by hand to have newest Firefox as packages were not available in official apt channels. But today I noticed that there is Firefox 30, the newest Firefox in `precise-updates/main Packages' channel. So can I ditch ubuntuzilla?
[14:58] <suokunlong> I reported this bug to ubuntu bug system here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1334316
[14:59] <Guest12763> hi
[14:59] <Lorcatar> Is there a terminal program (Not a terminal emulator) That allows you to have multiple windows? I don't use anything except the terminal on this box so I would prefer getting rid of the GUI altogether, but I will need multiple tabbing or something similar like alt-left to go left and alt-right to go right similar to irssi.
[14:59] <DougsTech> Aereo Loses In Supreme Court, Deemed Illegal
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> Lorcatar  screen, tmux
[14:59] <Beldar> ja`, I would I can't recall any of what your saying a being true and I have used ubuntu and open source since mid 2000
[14:59] <cfhowlett> DougsTech discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:59] <Beldar> as*
[15:00] <DougsTech> cfhowlett, ok
[15:00] <pieeeerrre> hi. I'm having trouble connecting my android phone (lg optimus) to my pc. lsusb doesn't list it. my dmesg is: http://pastebin.com/UYg0d4Sn does anyone know if the "USB disconnect" line is normal? where does it come from? why lsusb doesn't list my device please? thanks!
[15:01] <Dave77> how do I update mplayer in ubuntu?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> Dave77: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt get install mplayer
[15:01] <ocoxo> MonkeyDust, my recent problem is with newsbin, it deletes previously saved items at every restart. have you maybe seen or heard of this problem?
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> Dave77  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> pieeeerrre: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:02] <cfhowlett> Dave77 sudo apt-get install mplayer
[15:02] <ocoxo> it was working fine in other installs.
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> ocoxo  sorry, i haven't
[15:02] <ocoxo> MonkeyDust, ok, thank you! :)
[15:03] <pieeeerrre> ActionParsnip: just "Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l"
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> pieeeerrre: that is EOL in a few weeks, you may want to upgrade soon. May cure the issue
[15:04] <Beldar> suokunlong, Could be any number of problems on your end, why are you telling us you have a bug, go to the #firefox channel and tell them
[15:04] <ocoxo> Pici, thank you for your help, it seems to be complicated with still unmet dependencies.
[15:04] <pieeeerrre> ActionParsnip: yeah i will... but the phone is pretty old (2 years old) so that's quite surprising...
[15:06] <ja`> Beldar: hmmm, maybe you're right. Now I think that the whole point of Ubuntuzilla is to have a new version of Firefox available faster than through official channels. There is some delay between a new Firefox release and when it can be installed with apt-get. Also, "Check For Updates" menu entry is disabled in Firefox coming from official channels so, not being Unity user, I would have to check if there is a new Firefox available by
[15:06] <ja`> hand
[15:06] <Pici> ocoxo: are you sure that even compiling from source will fix your issue?
[15:06] <Lorcatar> How can I close the GUI in ubuntu?
[15:07] <ocoxo> Pici..it's a more recent version, thought the problem might not exist
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> Lorcatar: why would you want to?
[15:07] <Pici> ocoxo: You should check for bug reports and see if it is actually fixed.
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> you can log off, and log in to TTY1, then stop the lightdm service
[15:07] <pieeeerrre> anyone has a clue please? I don't really know how to get more info after dmesg...
[15:07] <Lorcatar> ActionParsnip: I don't like the space it takes up.
[15:07] <Lorcatar> I don't use anything except the terminal on this box anyway
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> Lorcatar: oh, then add the boot option 'text' and you can uninstall Xorg and so forth. You will then have a CLI only OS
[15:08] <ocoxo> Pici, there are no recent bug reports about this. there is one from 2008, where the same problem was reported to be fixed..but then, I have it again in 2014.
[15:08] <cfhowlett> Lorcatar or install ubuntu server
[15:09] <Lorcatar> Oh thanks guys
[15:09] <underpressure> How do I update the nvidia driver in ubuntu?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> underpressure: how did you install it?
[15:10] <underpressure> ActionParsnip: i only installed ubuntu. but i get no 3d support neither in vbox nor in vmware.
[15:10] <LittleBoy> cfhowlett:  didnt work. gets same termination after continue button. It says " Could not get system bus". Make sure the message bus daemon is running
[15:10] <cfhowlett> LittleBoy and you verified both the ISO and the USB?
[15:11] <abc_harold> underpressure: If you're in a VM, you need to install the additions
[15:11] <underpressure> abc_harold: i did in vbox. doing it now in vmware. but vmware already said the host does not support 3d.
[15:11] <LittleBoy> cfhowlett:   i verified the iso and formatted USB.
[15:12] <cfhowlett> LittleBoy by any chance is the a UEFI enabled computer?  i.e. runs windows 8.#?
[15:12] <LittleBoy> its weird that the "try version" works but not the installation
[15:12] <LittleBoy> cfhowlett:  I have win7
[15:12] <abc_harold> underpressure: Is your host OS Ubuntu?
[15:12] <underpressure> abc_harold: yes
[15:13] <abc_harold> underpressure: You should be able to install/change drivers in the Additional Drivers control panel
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> LittleBoy  i had that too, forced me to abandon ubuntu
[15:13] <abc_harold> underpressure: (on the host)
[15:13] <LittleBoy> MonkeyDust:  weird. did you get it fixed?
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> LittleBoy  no, i'm not in ubuntu right now
[15:14] <underpressure> abc_harold: ubuntu has a "control panel"? where is it?
[15:15] <LittleBoy> MonkeyDust:  did u installing with cd too?
[15:15] <Beldar> underpressure, Not really what is it you actually need
[15:15] <abc_harold> underpressure: I mean the System Settings app. If you search for Additional Drivers in the dash, you'll find it
[15:15] <underpressure> abc_harold: im in system settings. what now?
[15:16] <underpressure> Beldar: get opengl 1.3 in windows in a vm. both vbox and vmware only give me 1.1 so far.
[15:16] <LittleBoy> cfhowlett:  I guess theres not much to do anymore
[15:16] <Beldar> underpressure, There is a setting in the bios for 3d if you have it, not sure the name of of it however
[15:16] <underpressure> Beldar: oh, so i have to reboot?
[15:17] <abc_harold> underpressure: If you search for Additional Drivers in the Dash, you'll find the right place straight away
[15:17] <underpressure> abc_harold: ok, searching...
[15:17] <Beldar> underpressure, I just seem to remember that is where it's at check if the computer even has a 3d option for a vm first.
[15:17] <underpressure> Beldar: ok.. rebooting now...
[15:18] <Beldar> lol
[15:19] <cfhowlett> LittleBoy sorry  virtualbox?
[15:19] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i am having a major issue, every time i am doing 45 minutes or more of work my computer freezes with no response from any key that should work...all i can do is cold reset, i ran a memory test and my memory is fine (ram) what can i do to diagnose this issue further, it is a cold reset so there are no logs...but this is getting very hard to do work :( restarting the computer 5 times today already
[15:20] <LittleBoy> cfhowlett: yea I said that it was odd that it works as a live version, but the installation doesnt work since "couldnt get system bus"
[15:20] <Beldar> Psil0Cybin, Have you checked if it's swapping? I would set the swappiness to 10
[15:22] <cfhowlett> LittleBoy last suggestion; as it is optimized for older/lower spec hardware, try lubuntu
[15:23] <Beldar> Psil0Cybin, How are you cold resetting?
[15:23] <Psil0Cybin> holding the power key
[15:23] <Psil0Cybin> only thing that works
[15:23] <Psil0Cybin> and now it messed up my whole android project
[15:23] <Psil0Cybin> and corrupted everything i was doing for 6 hrs
[15:23] <Beldar> !reisub | Psil0Cybin bad idea
[15:24] <LittleBoy> cfhowlett:  my computer is neither old or slow so just feels weird to go for that.  I guess I will have to get cd boot for ubuntu and try with that
[15:24] <Beldar> Psil0Cybin, YOU said yesterday you still had a cursor, I bet you are just swapping
[15:24] <underpressure> Ok Im Back :)
[15:25] <underpressure> couldnt find any 3d virtualisation setting in the bios.
[15:25] <underpressure> trying a different nvidia driver now...
[15:25] <Beldar> underpressure, You do realize that virtualbox has it's own drivers for many things right?
[15:25] <phelix> Could someone please help me figure out why Chrome and Chromium is doing this? http://prntscr.com/3wd8zo
[15:25] <phelix> it does it on just about every single page its almost unusable.
[15:25] <suokunlong> Beldar: I am reporting this bug to ubuntu, because I believe it's not firefox's bug, it's ubuntu's bug
[15:26] <phelix> I am running Ubuntu 14.04
[15:26] <underpressure> Beldar: i only know it gives me opengl 1.1
[15:26] <suokunlong> Beldar: I already stated it in the bug report
[15:26] <c0mrad3> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/bPp7i2KN
[15:26] <Beldar> suokunlong, Sure, however what you think and what reality might not be the same.
[15:26] <Psil0Cybin> Beldar, i was not here yesterday
[15:26] <Psil0Cybin> the cursor does not move
[15:26] <c0mrad3> i am getting this error can any one help with this
[15:27] <Psil0Cybin> and is frozen, Beldar i am aware this is a bad idea but no other keys work! the cursor does not move!!
[15:27] <Psil0Cybin> it is completely frozen
[15:27] <c0mrad3> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:27] <c0mrad3> E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
[15:27] <Psil0Cybin> with even the indication multiload window not moving like it usually does
[15:27] <Beldar> Psil0Cybin, You still have not answered my basic question. If you do not understand say so.
[15:27] <holstein> c0mrad3: you likely just have a few package managers open.. if you are in doubt, you can always restart the machine to make sure processes are not running in the background
[15:28] <Beldar> Psil0Cybin, Have you tried a reisub reboot?
[15:28] <Lorcatar> Is there a quick way to change the font on a tty
[15:28] <c0mrad3> holstein: do i get it work if i reboot it
[15:29] <Glorfindel> Any time I update anything the update shows an error. Here is the log or whatever: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7700948/
[15:29] <Beldar> Psil0Cybin, Have you tried to get to a tty? hard shutdown can corrupt your whole setup.
[15:29] <Psil0Cybin> Beldar, no keys work
[15:29] <ademoglu> hi guys my laptop camera started not working , my os ubuntu 14.04 and my laptop dell inspiron, i didnt understand anything yesterday it was working today it isnt working, what can i do ?
[15:29] <Psil0Cybin> Beldar, tty, does not work REISUB does nothing
[15:29] <underpressure> Did Ubuntu really already change to the new driver without a restart.. without even a blink?
[15:29] <Psil0Cybin> my computer just sits with the screen frozen no keys work
[15:29] <Psil0Cybin> power is still on
[15:30] <holstein> c0mrad3: the message you see there is likely due to having a few package managers open at the same time.. if you kill the processes,and leave only one.. *or* just reboot and only use one at a time
[15:30] <Psil0Cybin> I tried colding ctrl + shift + etc + REISUB or what ever, or followoing what i found online no result
[15:30] <Psil0Cybin> Beldar,
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> oops
[15:30] <holstein> c0mrad3: you cant have the software center and/or synaptic runnning, for example, and run "sudo apt-get install" whatever
 I tried colding ctrl + shift + etc + REISUB or what ever, or followoing what i found online no result THAT IS NOT A CORRECT USE
[15:31] <Psil0Cybin> Alt + SysRq + REISUB
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> Psil0Cybin  it works with Alt-Gr - Printscreen reisub, just tried
[15:31] <Psil0Cybin> what is the SysRQ key so i can this next time
[15:31] <Psil0Cybin> to confirm
[15:31] <Psil0Cybin> what is Alt-Gr?
[15:31] <Psil0Cybin> sorry
[15:32] <bazhang> prtscrn
[15:32] <Psil0Cybin> oh kk
[15:32] <Psil0Cybin> i will try this
[15:32] <Beldar> Psil0Cybin, I noticed a while back you rarely seemed to understand many simple things, so just put you in ignore, you are just confirming this now. ;)
[15:32] <Psil0Cybin> Beldar, well thanks for your help anyway. You seem to think i was here yesterday so please ignore me.
[15:36] <underpressure> damn, in vmwar i have opengl 2 now!
[15:37] <holstein> vmware?
[15:37] <underpressure> yes
[15:37] <underpressure> holstein: it only took me the whole day :)
[15:37] <holstein> underpressure: feel free and discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:38] <underpressure> holstein: nothing left to discuss
[15:38] <Minelli_> Hello good afternoon, you know me lusca have the option to generate dynamic certificates for HTTPS site as 3x in squid?
[15:38] <milad191> how can i install BlueStacks on ubuntu ?
[15:38] <Glorfindel> Any time I update anything the update shows an error. Here is the log or whatever: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7700948/
[15:39] <underpressure> holstein: and it was ubuntu specific. i had to switch to a propriatary driver in ubuntu. in fact the only reason i installed ubuntu is to run a vm with 3d support.
[15:40] <holstein> underpressure: cool.. enjoy.. please feel free to continue discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:40] <underpressure> holstein: as i said, there is nothing left to discuss.
[15:40] <Dave77> how do I upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 from CLI?
[15:41] <daftykins> Dave77: give "sudo do-release-upgrade" a go, although that may come back with nothing
[15:41] <underpressure> this is the first ubuntu version i tried in years. looks quite pretty.
[15:42] <daftykins> underpressure: please keep conversation to support chat, #ubuntu-offtopic is for general chat.
[15:43] <Glorfindel> Anyone?
[15:43] <daftykins> Glorfindel: what version are you on?
[15:43] <Glorfindel> 14.04
[15:43] <daftykins> are you sure? your pastebin is trying to install a saucy package
[15:44] <milad191> anyone knows a good Android emulator for ubuntu 14.04 ?
[15:44] <daftykins> Glorfindel: can you confirm with "cat /etc/issue" please
[15:44] <daftykins> milad191: that's pretty off topic, but you could run the android SDK.
[15:44] <Glorfindel> one moment
[15:44] <Glorfindel> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[15:45] <underpressure> Glorfindel: what command gives the output in the pastebin?
[15:45] <milad191> it's for UBUNTU
[15:45] <milad191> so it's not OFF_TOPIC
[15:45] <daftykins> milad191: right, doesn't mean it's supporting the OS. i suggest you do not attempt to argue.
[15:46] <kostkon> milad191, http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/cross-platform-android-emulator.html
[15:46] <holstein> milad191: "good" will always be a matter of opinion.. i found http://www.bluestacks.com/ which doesnt state linux support. i have used the android sdk and genymotion is easy
[15:46] <Glorfindel> I was trying to play a mp3 stream in rythmbox and it wanted to install some plugins
[15:46] <holstein> milad191: you'l just need to load up what the vendors create for ubuntu, and try them, and see what meets your needs
[15:46] <kostkon> milad191, it's called genymotion. check it out
[15:46] <holstein> !restricted | Glorfindel did you install mp3 support?
[15:47] <Glorfindel> that is what it was doing when it said "some packages couldn't be installed" and the log was in the details dropdown
[15:49] <Flonk> I added the webupd8team/java ppa, updated apt-get and still can't find oracle-java8-installer. Am I missing something?
[15:49] <Nicetomeetyou> hi
[15:49] <Glorfindel> nice to meet you nicetomeetyou
[15:51] <daftykins> Flonk: what do you get from "apt-cache search oracle" ?
[15:51] <holstein> Guest58112: you can run "sudo apt-get update" and share errors in pastebin
[15:52] <holstein> Flonk: you need "sudo apt-get update" before they will show up.. though, ppa's are not supported officially
[15:52] <Flonk> daftykins, holstein: let me pastebin that
[15:53] <daftykins> Flonk: it really shouldn't return much and should be pretty obvious
[15:53] <Beldar> Glorfindel, Can you pastebin a sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade all the text including commands
[15:54] <Flonk> daftykins: hmm, it does! http://paste.ubuntu.com/7701120/ // holstein
[15:54] <Glorfindel> hang on...
[15:55] <gwd> What's the standard way of restarting networking after you've manually edited /etc/network/interfaces in 14.04?
[15:55] <gwd> "/etc/init.d/networking restart" doesn't seem to do it...
[15:55] <daftykins> Flonk: you're on 13.04, this release is EOL. you shouldn't run that anymore
[15:55] <holstein> Flonk: that can be the issue, if the ppa is for a different version
[15:55] <daftykins> Flonk: you need to upgrade to a supported release, so 14.04 in this case
[15:55] <gwd> A bunch of things say to use systemctl to control systemd, but I don't seem to have that on my path.
[15:55] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade|Flonk
[15:56] <Flonk> daftykins: It's a rented vserver, and they don't have a newer release for some reason
[15:56] <Flonk> What was the last LTE before that?
[15:56] <Flonk> *LTS
[15:56] <daftykins> 12.04
[15:56] <cfhowlett> Flonk which is still supported until 2017
[15:56] <daftykins> Flonk: you should ditch them and get a good provider :)
[15:57] <Flonk> daftykins: They're so cheap though ._.
[15:57] <daftykins> so are digitalocean
[15:58] <Flonk> daftykins: Do they have servers in europe?
[15:58] <daftykins> Flonk: yep, see their website - though this topic is off topic for this chan so we'll have to stop there i'm afraid
[15:59] <Glorfindel> Beldar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7701134/
[16:00] <Flonk> daftykins: Haha okay, I'll check them out!
[16:00] <trism> gwd: we do not have systemd yet, the systemd init binary isn't in the repos until 14.10
[16:00] <Beldar> Glorfindel, How about the other apt-get command?
[16:01] <gwd> trism: I'm just figuring that out; but "restart networking" just reports "Job failed while stopping".
[16:01] <Glorfindel> wait for it to upgrade?
[16:02] <Beldar> Beldar> Glorfindel, Can you pastebin a sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade all the text including commands
[16:02] <Beldar> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Glorfindel
[16:02] <Glorfindel> yes it is right now, but do you want me to complete the upgrade?
[16:03] <Glorfindel> before copy and pastebining
[16:03] <Beldar> Glorfindel, NJO.
[16:03] <Beldar> NO
[16:03] <gwd> Hmm, /var/log/upstart/networking.log says "Stopping or starting the networking job is not supported. Use ifdown & ifup to reconfigure desired interface."
[16:03] <trism> gwd: http://askubuntu.com/questions/441619/how-to-successfully-restart-a-network-without-reboot-over-ssh
[16:04] <Beldar> Glorfindel, If you hit yes on the upgrade and are fixed great, I just wanted to look for broken or held packages.
[16:05] <Glorfindel> is four lines of text fine or pastebin that too?
[16:06] <Beldar> Glorfindel, We always want to see every bit if a terminal output, I thought I said that.
[16:06] <Beldar> of*
[16:06] <Glorfindel> that is all there is
[16:06] <Glorfindel> it couldn't access something
[16:06] <Beldar> Glorfindel, Than what are you waiting for tis is free help bro.
[16:06] <Beldar> this*
[16:07] <gwd> trism: Thanks.
[16:08] <Guest54623> test
[16:08] <Glorfindel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7701180/
[16:09] <Beldar> Glorfindel, Do you have the ubuntu software center open or synaptic? Did you stop any apt-get process while it was running?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | Glorfindel
[16:09] <Beldar> Glorfindel: ^^^^^^^^^^
[16:09] <Glorfindel> yes I killed the other proccess
[16:10] <Beldar> Glorfindel, Try the command ActionParsnip had the bot give you.
[16:10] <Glorfindel> one moment
[16:10] <jellf> hi all
[16:10] <Guest54623> hello
[16:10] <jellf> i just do upgrae on ubuntu
[16:11] <jellf> but after restart it's always get black screen
[16:11] <Beldar> Glorfindel, Cool, I know from experience that having a issue and trying to fix while getting help can be tough you are doing fine. ;)
[16:12] <Glorfindel> :)
[16:12] <bcvery> Guest54623, Hello, please ask your Ubuntu question
[16:12] <Beldar> jellf, This a in the release upgrade or to another release?
[16:12] <liukexing> clear the apt-get list
[16:12] <jellf> Beldar : from 12.01 to 12.04
[16:12] <Glorfindel> Beldar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7701194/
[16:13] <holstein> jellf: you upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10?
[16:13] <Beldar> jellf> Beldar : from 12.01 to 12.04 Can you make that more complete looks like you mean just a standard apt-get upgrade am I right?
[16:14] <hdt2k> hi
[16:14] <Guest54623> do you all find that 14.04 is a slower then 12.04
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> Guest54623: not here
[16:14] <jellf> Beldar : yes, i just do apt-get update & upgrade
[16:14] <Beldar> Glorfindel, Try this sudo apt-get -f install
[16:14] <jellf> holstein : from 12.04.1 to 12.04.4
[16:14] <holstein> Guest54623: no.. but, i have found that certain hardware support can cause it to seem that way from one version to the next.. its likely 3d driver support..
[16:15] <Beldar> jellf, So after this you have a black screen? Are you using proprietary graphic drivers?
[16:15] <nicolas__> hi guys just need help to install compiz 3d on ubuntu 14
[16:15] <jellf> Beldar : i'm using nvdia with 64 memory
[16:15] <jellf> old pc
[16:15] <holstein> nicolas__: its running by default.. in 14.04
[16:15] <daftykins> nicolas__: unity uses it already ? :)
[16:15] <Glorfindel> Beldar: pastebin it?
[16:16] <Beldar> jellf, nvidia form their website or additional drivers
[16:16] <nicolas__> hmm not sure there is not cube effect for exemple
[16:16] <Beldar> Glorfindel, Sure.
[16:16] <Beldar> from*
[16:16] <jellf> Beldar : i'm not install any driver, i just use the default from OS
[16:16] <jellf> S
[16:17] <DaneoShiga> how do I boot to grub menu?
[16:17] <Glorfindel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7701213/ Here you are
[16:17] <nicolas__> @holstein + daftykins ---)  not sure of it...
[16:17] <Beldar> jellf, Cool, so I would get to a tty and run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and see if this clears stuff up.
[16:17] <DaneoShiga> helping a friend that installed nvidia proprietary driver and now his ubuntu gets stuck on "low graphics mode" message
[16:18] <daftykins> nicolas__: such little frilly effects can be turned on by installing 'ccsm' or a similar compiz configuration program i think
[16:18] <nicolas__> @daftykins Yes I check that. It bug when I try to install it with : sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[16:18] <jellf> Beldar : you mean, the next step just do apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:19] <DanteS1nfern0> If Glorfindel is on Ubuntu 14.04LTS shouldn't her sources be trusty, not saucy?
[16:19] <Glorfindel> His ;)
[16:19] <Beldar> Glorfindel, I'm not sure what is going on there, but that is a huge autoremove list some of which seems important, lets let better help comment.
[16:19] <Glorfindel> ok
[16:19] <daftykins> nicolas__: i have no experience with that
[16:20] <nicolas__> lol conpiz config manager is ok but no 3d effect allowed..
[16:20] <Beldar> jellf, I would yes, you would have a kernel waiting with a jump like you have described, you need a dist-upgrade to get it.
[16:20] <jellf> Beldar : it's will upgrade to anoter version?
[16:20] <Beldar> jellf, nope that is a in release upgrade.
[16:20] <jellf> Beldar : i will not use 12.04 again
[16:20] <jellf> Beldar : ok
[16:20] <jellf> Beldar : let me try
[16:20] <Beldar> cool
[16:21] <hakan_> how many people find that 14.04 is slower then 12.04
[16:21] <bcvery> nicolas__, there is a #compiz channel, they may be able to provide more support
[16:21] <bcvery> hakan_, please don't poll
[16:22] <Glorfindel> Well thanks for the help Beldar :)
[16:22] <hakan_> ok np
[16:22] <holstein> hakan_: not here.. though, i find if i dont have the proper driver support, it can seem slow.. try soemthing that doesnt require 3d support
[16:22] <nicolas__> ok bcvery thk yu
[16:22] <DanteS1nfern0> Glorfindel is on Ubuntu 14.04LTS shouldn't her software sources be trusty, not saucy?
[16:22] <Glorfindel> His ;)
[16:22] <hakan_> 14.04 just uses up a lot of space and mem
[16:23] <holstein> hakan_: try something smaller.. lubuntu
[16:23] <Beldar> Glorfindel, can you pastebin all the output of this command grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}  this will show all the source.list and source.list.d info just more pertinent info
[16:23] <hakan_> i'll put that on a seperate machine, though i am using puppy for that now its lite
[16:24] <daftykins> hakan_: that's lovely, but this channel is for ubuntu support only, please join #ubuntu-offtopic for random chat.
[16:24] <hakan_> ok np
[16:25] <Glorfindel> Beldar: here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7701255/
[16:25] <liukexing> can  ubuntu run oracle server no program?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> !oracle
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> liukexing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Oracle
[16:27] <liukexing> thanks ,i see
[16:27] <Beldar> Glorfindel, Thanks, as another user mentioned and I had noticed in all these pastes some saucy relevance. Were you running saucy at one point and upgraded if so how, or had a ppa's or ppa's ?
[16:28] <Glorfindel> I upgraded from 12.04
[16:28] <Glorfindel> what are ppa's?
[16:28] <Beldar> Glorfindel, How did you do the upgrade?
[16:28] <jpds> !ppa | Glorfindel
[16:29] <Glorfindel> I used the gui upgrader
[16:29] <Glorfindel> and the only 3rd party software is tor enabled ff
[16:29] <Dave77> if my ubuntu won't do into desktop:- is there any CLI app that can fix it?
[16:30] <wheatthin> Glorfindel, I use torsocks and privoxy :).. no need for ppa
[16:30] <DaneoShiga> someone's know how to fix when installing proprietary nvidia driver makes ubuntu get stuck on "low graphics mode"? deleting xorg.conf didn't help
[16:30] <Beldar> Glorfindel, every release after 12.04 up to 13.04 is eol so be aware of updating through eol's. Again lets see what others say.
[16:30] <DanteS1nfern0> Glorfindel: this is just my opinion and there are others who would disagree, but I do fresh installs when the distro is LTS.
[16:30] <Glorfindel> Well I think it was ppa, I launch it from a shell
[16:31] <wheatthin> DanteS1nfern0, negative, just go through the ppa purge process (removing the ppa's) and then trying to do things right :)
[16:31] <robairt> Anyone have any idea why I can't copy paste between my desktop and a remote desktop until I paste it into my note, at which point my clipboard is available on both desktops
[16:32] <hacmit> @DaneoShiga what is your graphics card configuration?
[16:32] <wheatthin> Glorfindel, are you trying t update to 14.04?
[16:32] <robairt> if the copying from notes didn't reactivate it, I wouldnt' be nearly as confused
[16:33] <Glorfindel> I am running 14.04
[16:33] <wheatthin> k, so what's the problem?
[16:33] <DanteS1nfern0> wheatthin: PPA's are just 3rd party packages. Those can and are regularly upgraded. I'm talking about upgrading the kernel and the entire distro
[16:33] <thelastbossman> hey, i recently installed ubuntu 14.04 on dell inspiron 15-3521, but changing brightness does not do anything
[16:34] <DaneoShiga> hacmit: it's not my notebook, all my friend told me is that he installed the proprietary tested driver that ubuntu showed him, the most strange part is that the first time he rebooted everything worked...
[16:34] <wheatthin> DanteS1nfern0, updating kernel and entire distro is much easier than doing a full reinstall. lol
[16:34] <Glorfindel> one moment
[16:34] <DanteS1nfern0> Goinf from 12.04LTS to 14.04LTS should be a fresh install. Just my opinion and my experience. It's not like you're doing this every 6 months.
[16:34] <wheatthin> I'm upgraded from 12.04, and have absolutely no problems.
[16:35] <wheatthin> DanteS1nfern0, we don't run away from problems, we solve them :)
[16:35] <DanteS1nfern0> What's running away?
[16:35] <Beldar> DanteS1nfern0, I agree in context, but "should" is not a word showing an opinion, in spite you saying it is.
[16:36] <compdoc> I upgraded a system from 13.10 to 14.04, and that went fine but I had the Mate desktop on it, and had to remove then reinstall Mate. but even that went well
[16:36] <jellf> Beldar : dist-upgrade doen
[16:37] <jellf> Beldar : i will restart the pc
[16:37] <DanteS1nfern0> Ok, bad word, "should". Point agreed.
[16:37] <wheatthin> or   sudo update-manager -d
[16:37] <andatche> anyone know what the magic incantation is to make the grub menu show up in trusty? Holding shift no longer seems to work
[16:37] <andatche> hiding by default = fail
[16:38] <DaneoShiga> NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M
[16:38] <Beldar> andatche, Have you modified the grub timeout or grub in any way?
[16:38] <andatche> no
[16:39] <andatche> I'm trying to boot a rogered box into single user mode
[16:39] <DaneoShiga> andatche: just had to deal with that, commented the grub_timeout on conf to see it everytime
[16:39] <Beldar> andatche,  rogered box?
[16:39] <Glorfindel> wheatthin: Any time I update anything the update shows an error. Here is the log or whatever: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7700948/
[16:39] <andatche> DaneoShiga: that's no use to me right now, I can't boot the box
[16:39] <andatche> need single user mode
[16:39] <DaneoShiga> andatche: some places say to hold shift, others to hold space, during boot-up
[16:39] <DaneoShiga> andatche: for me none worked
[16:40] <andatche> yeah, neither are working in this case
[16:40] <andatche> Beldar: remote box with no networking at boot
[16:40] <andatche> I have no idea what the passwords for any of the users are
[16:40] <andatche> hiding the menu by default is moronic tbh
[16:41] <code1o6> how to update from gcc-4.8 to 4.9
[16:41] <Beldar> !details | code1o6
[16:42] <holstein> code1o6: you can upgrade packages with the package manager.. or sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:42] <wheatthin> Glorfindel, did you try customizing xorg some time before upgrading?
[16:42] <code1o6> has anybody attempted to install gcc-4.9-base package, i cant find the executable in the /usr/bin/ folder
[16:42] <holstein> code1o6: there may be ways to force a different version of gcc, but it wouldnt be supported officially
[16:42] <Glorfindel> Yes I think I tried to install a Mac OSX thing
[16:43] <wheatthin> Yeah, remove that package and start again
[16:43] <Glorfindel> though it couldhave been Win7
[16:43] <wheatthin> I doubt it, windows 7 can't even see ubuntu most of the time, let alone write to it
[16:45] <Glorfindel> No, it was a 'make ubuntu look like windows 7' thing
[16:45] <wheatthin> ahh, and by doing so, you installed random ppa before upgrading?
[16:46] <wheatthin> now after upgrade, you're having issues cause that failed during update
[16:46] <wheatthin> upgrade*
[16:46] <Glorfindel> I think so
[16:46] <holstein> Glorfindel: i would simply backup my data, which you should do regarless, since all drives are going to fail.. then, fresh install
[16:46] <wheatthin> Glorfindel, for future reference, please remove all PPA's before upgrading. Not all PPA's are maintained to keep up with ubuntu's releases
[16:47] <holstein> !info ppa-purge
[16:47] <holstein> ^ handy for removing ppa's and packages associated..
[16:47] <Glorfindel> do a apt-get ppa-purge?
[16:48] <holstein> Glorfindel: you are on emergency repair. you'll have to just do whatever it takes to fix what is broken.. i would fresh install
[16:48] <Istalantar> how can i create a shortcut or script on my desktop to start a program with double click on it?
[16:48] <holstein> Glorfindel: you can try removing your user config from the equation..
[16:48] <wheatthin> Istalantar, you have to create a .desktop link
[16:49] <jellf> Beldar : it's same
[16:49] <wheatthin> It's a basic description of where the executable and it's icon is located
[16:49] <Beldar> Glorfindel, the ppa-purge was just info, you have no ppa's as of now, the advice to back and fresh install is good though. Basically you have done enough damage by acting with knowing or understanding the consequences to really fix this.
[16:49] <Beldar> without*
[16:49] <jellf> Beldar : after reboot, get grub menu, select the ubuntu, black screen
[16:49] <Glorfindel> hmm, ok
[16:49] <Glorfindel> it works fin
[16:49] <Glorfindel> *fine
[16:50] <Glorfindel> just shows an error
[16:50] <holstein> Glorfindel: what works fine?
[16:50] <Glorfindel> the os
[16:50] <holstein> Glorfindel: then, what is the question?
[16:50] <Beldar> jellf, I'm not sure why, I have no experience with nvidia if that is the issue you might try a safe x boot from the recovery.
[16:50] <Glorfindel> How to get it to stop showing the error
[16:50] <holstein> Glorfindel: what to stop showing what?
[16:51] <jellf> Beldar : i'm not use X
[16:51] <jellf> Beldar : only console
[16:51] <Glorfindel> the update maneger to show the error every time it updates
[16:51] <trijntje> Istalantar: you can use alacarte for that
[16:51] <Beldar> jellf, Ah so no console on the grub boot is the issue?
[16:51] <holstein> Glorfindel: i oppologize if you have already done so.. please open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update" and pastebin the results
[16:52] <holstein> !paste | Glorfindel do it again, if you dont mind..
[16:52] <jellf> Beldar : i can find grub menu, after select the kernel, black screen
[16:52] <Glorfindel> hang on while I find the paste bin :D
[16:52] <Glorfindel> or just do it again?
[16:52] <jellf> Beldar : do you know where the ubuntu crash log?
[16:52] <salec> hey guys, I'm having a problem with my ubuntu server in which the following morning after nobody has interacted with it via ssh or web, it becomes non-responsive.  the system is still powered on, but I cannot connect to it at all, not via terminal or web.  Is there any way to determine whether or not the system went into suspend, had a kernel hang, or what?
[16:53] <holstein> Glorfindel: no.. make me a new one, please.. run the command again.
[16:53] <wheatthin> salec, try pinging your modem/router, and if that doesn't respond reboot router
[16:53] <Glorfindel> I'm on it
[16:54] <salec> wheatthin: it has network connectivity.  I can verify that by connecting to the ipmi module of the system.  Ipmi says everything is fine, the system is powered and no event logs.  But it's not responsive  when I try to remote in
[16:54] <Beldar> jellf, Yes I understand now, why would you have mentioned nvidia it is not relevant except I did ask about graphic drivers. The fact you are nrunning just a console should have been in that first black screen issue, without it we think you have X
[16:54] <salec> It seems like it's a stall, but I did find that if I send it a ctrl-alt-delete, the system reboots
[16:58] <Glorfindel> holstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7701408/
[16:58] <Beldar> jellf, In the end you have used a strange method of install an old release of 12.04 rather than the 12.04 release, and we have not even got to how you installed.
[16:59] <Beldar> 12.04.04
[17:00] <jbarket> Random question. I'm mounting several drives on other machines via smb. Things occasionally have to be manually re-mounted. Is there a smarter solution out there for mounting multiple drives from another Ubuntu machine?
[17:00] <jbarket> In fstab that is
[17:03] <Beldar> holstein, here is the users sources as of now if you like. Glorfindel> Beldar: here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7701255/
[17:03] <holstein> Glorfindel: i see no errors.. do you? go ahead and run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".. run it again, if you ran it before, and share in pastebin errors..
[17:04] <holstein> Beldar: i dont see anything obvious.. do you?
[17:04] <Glorfindel> No that command doesn't bring up any errors
[17:04] <Glorfindel> nor does the dist commant
[17:04] <Glorfindel> *command
[17:04] <holstein> Glorfindel: looks good then.. enjoy!
[17:04] <Beldar> holstein, No the upgrade just has an error is all, but the path to there was a bit unusual is all in the end.
[17:05] <Glorfindel> ok Great! thanks
[17:05] <Beldar> had an error anyway, whoohoo
[17:05] <Glorfindel> Mine did>
[17:06] <Glorfindel> *?
[17:06] <pavan> Is there anyone to help me in installing USB to Ethernet LAN drivers??
[17:07] <huangyongda919> ok
[17:07] <Beldar> pavan, Does that translate to a usb Ethernet device?
[17:07] <pavan> yes..dude
[17:08] <Beldar> pavan, Does the device show in running lsusb in the cli if so wht is it's name, and don't denigrate me with a dude.
[17:09] <Istalantar> wheatthin: thank you, it managed to create the .desktop link
[17:10] <Moe> hey everybody .. I would need help with packaging/PPA related issues .. anyone willing/able to help out?
[17:10] <Moe> I created my own PPA and added two packages to it
[17:10] <pavan> Beldar, I got the below output for the command lsusb
[17:10] <pavan> Bus 002 Device 006: ID 413c:8160 Dell Computer Corp. Wireless 365 Bluetooth
[17:10] <pavan> Bus 002 Device 005: ID 413c:8162 Dell Computer Corp. Integrated Touchpad [Synaptics]
[17:10] <pavan> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 413c:8161 Dell Computer Corp. Integrated Keyboard
[17:10] <pavan> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0a5c:4500 Broadcom Corp. BCM2046B1 USB 2.0 Hub (part of BCM2046 Bluetooth)
[17:10] <pavan> Bus 002 Device 012: ID e202:9200
[17:10] <unopaste> pavan you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[17:10] <Beldar> pavan, always pastebin more that two lines
[17:10] <Beldar> than
[17:11] <Moe> https://launchpad.net/~mheiber/+archive/ppa < I can install connman just fine, but installing cmst fails because of a missing dependency .. which is connman ..
[17:11] <Moe> The control file looks fine to me .. any pointers as to what I'm doing wrong?
[17:12] <pavan> Thanks to everyone, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7701461/
[17:12] <dens2204> hi people
[17:12] <dens2204> help me setting java
[17:12] <dens2204> please
[17:12] <Beldar> pavan, So unplug the usb device run the command than plug it in and run the command and isolate what it is, looks like maybe the broadcom.
[17:15] <Beldar> pavan, With a 3rd party usb Ethernet device it would be unusual for ubuntu to have any drivers, it will work or not work in general. Have you checked it to be linux compliant?
[17:15] <pavan> Beldar, i got it .  Bus 002 Device 012: ID e202:9200
[17:17] <pavan> Beldar, I'm not aware of linux compliant. Could you please help me in this..
[17:18] <amagay> test
[17:18] <holstein> pavan: if the device can be supported, it typically will just automatically work.. or, it will be quite challenging, or not work at all..
[17:19] <Overand> Where is /tmp defined?  I don't see an entry for it in /etc/fstab.  (Goal:  disable 'noexec' due to a compatability issue with some software.  (Notes: The System that was installed as Ubuntu (desktop) 14.04, but has had xubuntu packages installed and some ubuntu/gnome ones removed)
[17:19] <Qweiop> Where do I upload screenshots
[17:19] <Qweiop> ?
[17:19] <holstein> !paste
[17:21] <pavan> Beldar, Is there any alternative or Do I need to drop in trying this?
[17:21] <Beldar> pavan, If this device does not work It probably wont is what I think, but this is an opinion. I have one myself that does, I got it on amazon and it was listed as working in linux it just plugs and works, and was cheap. That is all the help I can really give.
[17:21] <DanteS1nfern0> pavan, another alternative is to just Google your make/model of usb ethernet device and linux drivers
[17:22] <belal> hi i want help in installing ubuntu  on my dell inspiron 15r  i am switching from windows 7 and have no experience i am installing ubuntu 13.04 from usb bootable drive  in installation installation types menu don't appear and it said to me no root file defined any one can hep me ?
[17:22] <DanteS1nfern0> If there is one already .deb'd then your good to go, if not you may have to compile from src
[17:22] <Overand> belal: How did you prepare your USB key for isntallation?
[17:22] <Beldar> pavan, Is the Ethernet plug broken on the computer? I have an acerone that I needed the usb ethernet for, but i turned out to be a corrupt bios so I reloaded it and it works now.
[17:23] <DanteS1nfern0> pavan, then again, for your device there may not be a 'nix driver for it
[17:23] <Glorfindel> you should put 14.04 on your usb stick, delal
[17:23] <belal> Overand ues as ubuntu website said
[17:23] <pavan> Beldar, Thanks! Can you please share me the product link from AMAZON..
[17:23] <belal> Glorfindel i did after i failed in 13.04 but no success
[17:23] <amafckingfgt> doyouevenlift
[17:24] <pavan> Beldar, Ethernet port pins are corrupted
[17:24] <Glorfindel> did you select the "install ubuntu" selection in the boot menu?
[17:24] <Overand> belal: Can you be more specific about how you did it "from the ubuntu website" ?
[17:24] <belal> Glorfindel yes
[17:25] <amafckingfgt> h3ue
[17:25] <pavan> DanteS1nfern0, I gave complete day in browsing google, but of no use. I tried with any installations but at the end of the day it's throwing errors
[17:25] <Glorfindel> did you select the tell it to use the whole disk?
[17:25] <amafckingfgt> h3ue
[17:25] <amafckingfgt> fck
[17:26] <belal> Overand i downloaded the Universal usb installer and choose the ubuntu 13.04 iso and begin the process and it completed successfully and the usb flash become bootable ubuntu installer
[17:26] <Overand> I'm really kinda lost as to why you're using 13.04, but that's not really the issue here i suspect
[17:26] <belal> Glorfindel no i didn't see this option
[17:26] <pavan> DanteS1nfern0, May I know how to install nix driver?
[17:26] <Overand> belal: Do you want to keep your data and your Windows 7 installation?
[17:26] <belal> Overand i tried also 14.04
[17:26] <Glorfindel> you should try Rufus if you are using windows
[17:26] <Overand> belal: Or are you hoping to delete *everthing*
[17:27] <belal> Overand no i move everything to external hard drive and i don;t want windows just ubuntu i want to remove windows
[17:27] <mentoc> Hi. I would like to know how to find my sound device in /dev. I'm using ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[17:27] <belal> Glrofindel i will search about it now
[17:27] <Glorfindel> well if you get the problem fixed then you can get it fixed with14, delal
[17:27] <mark06> software center is showing deleted repos, how to fix this? grep can't find anything under /etc, I thought it was based solely on the apt conf files
[17:27] <Glorfindel> *belal
[17:27] <Overand> mentoc: /dev/ isn't really used except for OSS - which is to many people considered legacy
[17:28] <Overand> mentoc: What specific thing are you hoping to accomplish / do?
[17:28] <mentoc> Overand: I'm trying to use peep, a network auralizer
[17:28] <kekek> hey guys
[17:28] <belal> Glorfindel i will try but thank you this chat is very useful to guys like me who don't know anything
[17:28] <kekek> does anyone use steam on ubuntu?
[17:28] <Overand> mentoc: if peep is expecting 'oss' (/dev/ type sound devices) you may need to run it 'wrapped' with the program "padsp"
[17:28] <holstein> !steam | kekek i do and have..
[17:28] <mentoc> Overand: I will try that, thanks.
[17:29] <Overand> mentoc: so - if the application is started via 'peep' - try it via the commandline, "padsp peep"
[17:29] <mentoc> Overand: k
[17:29] <kekek> ubottu: thanks!
[17:29] <Akurgal> merhaba türk varmı
[17:29] <bazhang> !tr
[17:29] <Overand> mentoc: it appears that peep is *very* old - it hasn't been updated in 12 years.  You may have some trouble, but you may not.
[17:30] <Glorfindel> belal, np :) I don't know that much either. how far does it get before it shows the error?
[17:30] <mark06> software center is showing deleted repos, how to fix this? grep can't find anything under /etc, I thought it was based solely on the apt conf files
[17:30] <kekek> problem is , i dont have root privileges here, so i can only get the tar.gz file from the website and install that one, but error 755 :O
[17:30] <holstein> kekek: you'll need root..
[17:30] <belal> Glorfindel i press install ubuntu then connect to the internet then the error appear
[17:30] <Overand> mentoc: this is a very interesting piece of software, however!  thanks for pointing me to it
[17:31] <mentoc> Overand: :)
[17:31] <holstein> kekek: you can follow requirements, or not use the software.
[17:31] <Sloane21>  Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://j.mp/1lpMrG8
[17:31] <mentoc> Overand: I miss the days when I could run it with no problem
[17:32] <kekek> holstein: well im at my work desk right now... so i cant change that ;)
[17:32] <Qweiop> Which drivers do I use for my GPU http://imagebin.org/314417 ? Is it OK if I use Nvidia's proprietary drivers? One more thing I am getting an Unknown display too, which I have disabled for now.http://imagebin.org/314418
[17:32] <holstein> kekek: when you can follow the specifications, it will work..
[17:32] <steeph> Hi! I have a problem with an SSD. It's working in Windows, but not showing (anymore) in Ubuntu. Is anyone able and willing to help me?
[17:32] <holstein> Qweiop: i say, try the open ones first.. then, move to the proprietary if needed..
[17:32] <holstein> steeph: explain "anymore"..
[17:33] <Overand> mentoc: OSS has fallen out of favor for a lot of reasons - right now, you're probably using Pulse Audio (daemon) attached to ALSA.
[17:34] <Overand> padsp will more or less 'fake' a /dev/dsp for the program you call with it.
[17:34] <mentoc> Overand: Wow, I didn't know that
[17:34] <Qweiop> holstein: Okay then.....One more ploblem   My mouse pointer also keeps blinking whenever the CPU is working, you know, like something is loading or immediately after I click something.
[17:34] <mentoc> Overand: I think a peep-type app could be made with libpcap and some sort of even/sound producer
[17:35] <mentoc> event*
[17:35] <Overand> mentoc: It can get even wackier.  One of my systems (not an ubuntu one) runs Jack Audio, through Alsa, and also pulse.  It gets complicated.
[17:35] <steeph> holstein: I replaced my system SSD that was running Win8 and Ubuntu with a new SSD, had to reinstall Windows and grub. The SSD that is not working is another one (not the one I have replaced). It worked before, but not since the disk switch or the reinstallation of Windows.
[17:35] <bluezone> i'm trying to execute a 32-bit executable but i am getting this error any ideas? http://bpaste.net/show/LvNO6HAu5IPvOJru7N2V/
[17:35] <bluezone> i am on a 64-bit system
[17:35] <holstein> Qweiop: you should have realistic expectations for the hardware.. i dont know the specs..
[17:35] <Qweiop> holstein: Is this happening because of the GPU driver thing??
[17:35] <Overand> mentoc: I concur.  That's a very interesting idea.  It also might be interesting to look into matching it with a monitoring system ala cacti, zabbix, or just rrdtool type stuff
[17:35] <daftykins> bluezone: what's the program?
[17:36] <steeph> (Meaning, it works just fine in Windows. But when I boot Ubuntu it's gone.)
[17:36] <holstein> Qweiop: try a different driver and see.. could be, you are using unity, which works "best" with 3d support, and the open driver is not providing it
[17:36] <kasdi> salut
[17:36] <mentoc> Overand: I sort of wish it were like in the movies. Somebody overflows a buffer and then all hell breaks loose on the screen with warnings and purdy colors
[17:36] <kasdi> qui cherche war 5 vs 5 cs 1.6
[17:36] <Strulkov> Greetings gentlemen.
[17:37] <machstem> Hey all.  Just installed 14.04 and I am setting up avahi to do some mDNS to allow Bonjour traffic between VLANs at work.  I setup 4 interfaces (eth0, eth1, eth2, eth3) and each has a static assignment set in /etc/network/interfaces including gateway and DNS info.  At first when I boot the system, I can ping 1 of the 4 IPs and eventually not even the server can ping out.  What is the best method to have this sort of scenario setup?
[17:37] <bluezone> daftykins, 32-bit compiled sublime text for linux
[17:37] <daftykins> bluezone: don't they offer packages?
[17:37] <holstein> steeph: do you see the device listed in the terminal when you run "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[17:37] <solidus-river> ah that makes sense, i guess since repmgr starts prostgres init.d doesn't see it as running so i need to kill it manually
[17:37] <steeph> holstein: No, neither is it listed in gparted.
[17:38] <bluezone> daftykins, don't believe so
[17:38] <daftykins> bluezone: ah well looks like you need to install 32-bit libs for all of that
[17:38] <Strulkov> I would like to know, how to enable media global shortcut in kubuntu 14.04. Media buttons isn't working with clementine like well with amarok, the default player.
[17:38] <Glorfindel> !kubuntu
[17:39] <bluezone> daftykins, i take it they wont be available to me in apt-get since im not on a 32-bit system? :P
[17:40] <pavan> can someone give solution to my problem..
[17:40] <jhutchins> pavan: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[17:41] <daftykins> bluezone: but of course
[17:41] <machstem> What about me! :)  Anyone have multiple interfaces working simultaneously on their systems with avahi^ :)
[17:42] <daftykins> pavan: not without you telling us what it is
[17:43] <pavan> Can you guys help me in installing USB to Ethernet LAN drivers??
[17:43] <Strulkov> I want create a script. Can i just run it in terminal or should I use a tex editor?
[17:43] <Strulkov> *text
[17:43] <Munster> 0/
[17:43] <daftykins> pavan: what's the device?
[17:43] <pavan> I tried all the possibilities using  google, but of no use.
[17:43] <Semen_Dickman> how to install windows and ubuntu in the same drive?
, It's a kind of converter from USB to Ethernet LAN
[17:44] <daftykins> pavan: i know that, but does it have a make and model? when you plug it in what does "lsusb" say?
[17:45] <jhutchins> Semen_Dickman: partition drive (windows, swap, linux), install windows, install ubuntu.
[17:45] <Semen_Dickman> can i instal windows in swap partition to make Ubuntu fast
[17:45] <holstein> pavan: it may be that the device doesnt support linux.. you likely were not promised that it would..
[17:45] <daftykins> my troll alarm is going off
[17:46] <pavan> Bus 002 Device 012: ID e202:9200
[17:46] <Semen_Dickman> Can i install windows in swap partition so that i can get a faster ubuntu..?
[17:46] <Semen_Dickman> can i copy dlls from windows to ubuntu to make it even more faster?
[17:46] <holstein> pavan: i say, if you have the reciept, and can return the device, do so.. and try and take your machine to a shop and get a device that "just works" when you plug it in..
[17:47] <daftykins> Semen_Dickman: please leave.
[17:47] <Semen_Dickman> why daftykins?
[17:47] <Munster> Semen_Dickman,http://askubuntu.com/questions/239859/installing-ubuntu-and-windows-on-same-drive
[17:47] <Beldar> !ops | Semen_Dickman really offensive nick
[17:47] <holstein> pavan: devices like that are so affordable these days,there really is no reason to fight with them like that..
[17:48] <pavan> holstein: Thanks  !!
[17:50] <jhutchins> pavan: Probably not too hard to get it working though.
[17:52] <Beldar> mmmm enabling
[17:53] <jhutchins> pavan: So that's an ASIX 88178
[17:54] <pavan> jhutchins: yup.
[17:55] <steeph> Anyone else has an idea what could make a drive missing in fdisk and BIOS that is otherwise working in Windows?
[17:55] <Vooloo> I use UFW and I have denied an IP address to "anywhere" and it shows up with ufw status, but I can still see this IP trying to authenticate in auth.log ... he should not even get that far if hes blocked by the firewall?
[17:55] <jhutchins> pavan: Does dmesg correctly identify it when you connect it?
[17:56] <Beldar> steeph, Drive? do hyou mean a partition?
[17:56] <Beldar> steeph, Is it a ntfs format?
[17:57] <steeph> Beldar: No, the SSD is not showing in gparted or fdisk -l. And it's missing from BIOS after I have booted Ubuntu. (It comes back when I turn the PC off and on again.)
[17:58] <Beldar> steeph, Is it formatted as a ntfs and what is actually on it and how big is it, three questions here.
 sorry..Don't know about dmesg
[17:58] <just4info> hey folks, one question: is there any open source pdf reader out there?
[17:58] <jhutchins> pavan: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man4/if_axe.4freebsd.html
[17:58] <holstein> !pdf
[17:58] <Beldar> pavan, I see this manpage concerning the device. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/en/man4/axe.4freebsd.html
[17:59] <holstein> just4info: if you want open, you should use an open format.. pdf can only be so "open source"..
[18:00] <just4info> holstein, well my problem is that i'm sitting infront of a 200 pages long pdf document where all important parts are marked red - and i'm colour blind
[18:00] <jhutchins> pavan: Manufacturer supplied driver: http://www.asix.com.tw/FrootAttach/driver/AX88772C_772B_772A_760_772_178_LINUX_DRIVER_v4.13.0_Source.tar.bz2
[18:00] <just4info> holstein, i'm looking for an option who to "replace" certain colour codes
[18:00] <jhutchins> pavan: axe should be in the kernel though.
[18:00] <holstein> just4info: you may prefer the actual adobe pdf reader..
[18:01] <steeph> Beldar: It did contain one swap partition before the problem came up. I removed the partition in Windows created an NTFS partition. The problem stays the same. It contains no files. It's 32GB.
[18:01] <just4info> holstein, how that? does it offer some kind of option for that?
 Thank you. Now I'm trying the same. Let you know the results in few minutes.
[18:01] <bluezone> daftykins, i added this to my sources http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/amd64/ia32-libs/download  and now i'm trying to install ia32-libs but i'm getting more problems, how do i remove the dependancies it is complaining about? http://bpaste.net/show/sKSzknCvP2bx0UTqcB6t/
[18:02] <holstein> just4info: i would just copy past the text, and do what i like with it.. or ask for a copy in a format that i can read.. or try one of many options for viewing and editing pdf's.. what have you tried? what is not meeting your needs? and how?
[18:03] <Beldar> steeph, can you in the terminal run sudo parted -l and pastebin the info.
[18:04] <steeph> Beldar: Yes, but since it only lists the drives that are working, I don't think it will be of any help. It's really the entire drive that is missing, not the partition.
[18:05] <just4info> holstein, i tried pretty much all i could think of, and everything came along with problems which couldn't be solved easily, that's why i thought about editing a pdf viewer on my own
[18:06] <Beldar> steeph, So let me get this straight, you come here for help not knowing what the issue is and refuse to follow some basic info search because you do not think it matters?
[18:06] <steeph> Beldar: http://pastebin.com/NZanV2Nh
[18:06] <steeph> Beldar: No, I'm just slow :)
[18:06] <Beldar> steeph, this is your issue Partition Table: gpt would you like a fix?
[18:07] <steeph> Beldar: Sure.
[18:08] <Beldar> steeph, cool, this should clean out the gpt remnants, be sure you are backed up though, this generally works with no problems however better to be safe than sorry. http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/wipegpt.html
[18:08] <pavan> jhutchins: while executing this command "make install" .. prompted me to enter password. But, its not accepting my system password.
[18:09] <sword-_> hey guys
[18:09] <sword-_> im attaching a usb hdd toaster to a usb 3.0 pci card
[18:09] <sword-_> it works on 2.0
[18:09] <jhutchins> pavan: The axe driver didn't work?
[18:10] <sword-_> but on 3.0 it is resulting in the following errors
[18:10] <sword-_> https://pastee.org/n4xyh
[18:10] <sword-_> i have no idea why, the partition table is fine
[18:11] <pavan> jhutchins: I am trying with this - http://www.asix.com.tw/FrootAttach/driver/AX88772C_772B_772A_760_772_178_LINUX_DRIVER_v4.13.0_Source.tar.bz2
[18:12] <bluezone> how do i remove libgtk2.24.10-2
[18:12] <jhutchins> pavan: I would try the native driver first, but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo might help.
[18:12] <jhutchins> pavan: I haven't compiled a driver in a while, and never on ubuntu.
[18:17] <erry> can i make a particular usb device not automatically mount/pop up a window when connected?
[18:18] <erry> my phone has a bad connection or something, and if i slightly touch the cable it gets disconnected and connects again and makes errors and nautilus windows pop up and it's really annoying]
[18:19] <Beldar> steeph, I am assuming the ssd has some gpt issue it is not showing in the parted command, if it were me I would make sure using windows it has a msdos partition table sdb has a gpt table for sure. I'm not sure on having msdos and gpt tables on different drives in general.
[18:19] <cigarettes> Has anyone issues with Chrome notifications (specifically with Keep notifications)?
[18:21] <Neozonz> anyone know of a good mail server that allows you to create/delete users via a gui admin dashboard?
[18:22] <kdeder> hi, anyone use wifi on their computer?  I am looking for a wifi device for my desktop
[18:22] <steeph> Beldar: Thanks. I will investigate further in this direction then. Maybe create a new table within Windows and unplug sdb (although I already did the latter).
[18:23] <kdeder> I can go pci-e or usb.. but, I am not sure which chipset to look for
[18:23] <steeph> Thanks for you time and effort, Beldar and holstein!
[18:23] <SchrodingersScat> kdeder: generally anything other than broadcom can be a success
[18:24] <kdeder> SchrodingersScat:  hehe, yeah ;)
[18:24] <kdeder> yeah, not looking at anything with broadcom
[18:24] <kdeder> if usb, realtek is the likely chipset on most?
[18:26] <SchrodingersScat> kdeder: not sure about 'most' but I have one with realtek, there /might/ be some atheros, etc., but those were older devices i was looking at..
[18:26] <holstein> kdeder: i'll typically try and plug them into linux in person.. heres the issue.. i could say a certain model works in linux for me, but the chipsets can be changed.. and all the vendor has to do wi what they promised.. provide windows drivers..
[18:27] <SchrodingersScat> yeah :/ i hate seeing in the chipset notes that it might be different in other models
[18:27] <holstein> for me, its worth overpaying at a smaller shop that will let me test, first hand..
[18:27] <holstein> test, and/or return
[18:30] <_2_vanessa> :O;);)
[18:30] <_2_vanessa> ;);)
[18:30] <_2_vanessa> :(;);)
[18:30] <_2_vanessa> :'(:(:(
[18:31] <_2_vanessa> See this image: http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/6382/58l0.jpg
[18:31] <DJones> _2_vanessa: Ok, but do you have an Ubuntu supprt question
[18:31] <naxa> is there a 'safely remove hardware' systray notification area applet for gnome3? like mounty but for usb removable devices like pen drives flash drives usb hdds. one that is in the system notification area.
[18:32] <bluezone> daftykins, well, i installed the deb package manually for ia32-libs and dpkg --force-depends and it's working fine now hehe
[18:38] <lucas__> hello. I am using arduino (IDE) and when I open the serial monitor (a separate window), it is invisible and I cannot find it. When  I alt+tab, I can see the window in the preview, but after I choose to go to it, it never shows up. Where is my window?
[18:38] <kaie> FYI, linux-image-3.2.0-64-generic 64bit no longer boots Ubuntu 12.04 on a Thinkpad X201 (with USB3 pc card). Older linux-image-3.2.0-63-generic and all versions before it work fine.
[18:38] <kaie> (it's mint 13, but that shouldn't matter for the kernel boot phase)
[18:39] <jhutchins> naxa: Yeah, should be.
[18:40] <naxa> jhutchins: what package should I install?
[18:40] <jhutchins> naxa: I avoid gnome like the plague.
[18:41] <jhutchins> naxa: So sorry, I don't know the specifics, but I know gnome does that.
[18:41] <naxa> jhutchins: is the notification area across desktop envs ununiform?
[18:41] <jhutchins> naxa: Nope.
[18:42] <jhutchins> naxa: aptitude search usb
[18:42] <jhutchins> naxa: aptitude search usb | grep gnome
[18:42] <Mat__> Hi all.
[18:42] <naxa> jhutchins: hm. can it be done from web? I have to do apt-offline
[18:42] <naxa> and the other machine is win
[18:43] <jhutchins> naxa: I'm sure it can, but I don't know the details.
[18:43] <jhutchins> naxa: Maybe google ubuntu gnome usb?
[18:43] <naxa> jhutchins: no I mean packages search. I already failed with search engines for this
[18:43] <naxa> :)
[18:43] <naxa> (I use duckduckgo btw!)
[18:43] <rajiv_> hello ryan
[18:44] <naxa> (not the reason for failure :D it can do google results with !s or !g)
[18:44] <Matml> Heh, I've been failing horribly searching for solutions to my problems today as well
[18:45] <Matml> and normally a good google or duckduckgo fixes things!
[18:45] <paulus68> I have a new SSD I inserted this disk into the pc and now I want to use gparted to create a new disk it's asking me what partition table I want to use but I don't know what to select please advice?
[18:46] <paulus68> by default msdos is selected
[18:46] <Matml> naxa: What problems are you having?
[18:47] <holstein> paulus68: what is on the disk? data that you need to save? or rescue?
[18:48] <naxa> Matml: would like to have a notification area applet to safely remove hardware, thus reusing one's mom's already-finished learning-curve and avoiding buying a new computer for $200 - I don't know what package do I need.
[18:48] <paulus68> holstein: nothing it's a new drive I just bought
[18:49] <Beldar> paulus68, Can you run sudo parted -l and pastebin so we see the rest of the computers tables.
[18:50] <rbennacer> hey guys how can i install mp4creator in ubuntu 12.04 lts
[18:50] <Matml> naxa: Ah ok, not come across that in Ubuntu
[18:50] <Matml> I'm having issues using apt-get
[18:50] <lucas__> found my window
[18:50] <Munster> paulus68, what do you plan to install oin the new drive ?
[18:50] <Munster> oin=on
[18:51] <naxa> Matml: I use apt-offline. but that's another stuff. :)
[18:51] <naxa> computer has no good internet connection. workplace has. download stuff at workplace.
[18:51] <paulus68> Munster, I want to use this drive as /home drive
[18:52] <Beldar> rbennacer, http://sourceforge.net/projects/mp4creator/ Have you looked for something supported here, would have to be in the ubuntu repos
[18:52] <Munster> paulus68, and you have  / on different drive ?
[18:52] <paulus68> Beldar,http://pastebin.com/Ein76b5n
[18:52] <paulus68> Munster, yes
[18:52] <paulus68> home drive is gonna be the second ssd
[18:52] <Beldar> paulus68, You are msdos everywhere else I would stick with that myself.
[18:52] <tesaf> Is there anyway to get pork working with
[18:52] <tesaf>   tmux or terminator or something with a similar
[18:53] <rbennacer> Beldar, it is for windows
[18:53] <Beldar> rbennacer, Than use ##windows supprt
[18:54] <Beldar> !topic | rbennacer
[18:54] <paulus68> Beldar, ok I was reading to use gpt for this one
[18:54] <Beldar> paulus68, Where are you reading that, you can use gpt if you like.
[18:54] <Munster> paulus68, use dd to transfer /home to the new ssd
[18:54] <bprompt> naxa:     what ubuntu version are you on?
[18:55] <rbennacer> ubottu, i am on the right channel
[18:55] <Munster> paulus68, but make sure you format it to ext first
[18:55] <paulus68> beldar, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1457901 2nd post
[18:55] <paulus68> Munster, don't worry will do
[18:56] <Capprentice> Hello! is there a application available for Ubuntu which supports saving encrypted notes? I want a software which can encrypt some text with a password and can be decrypted at later time with the same password?
[18:56] <naxa> bprompt: 12.04
[18:57] <rbennacer> please help, my project depends on mp4creator
[18:57] <Beldar> paulus68, Your choice but more complex, some argue it has advantages, I would investigate what thise actually are and if you really want to deal with it. srs5694 is a top helper, however I would noit just buy into the word "advantages" you may not need them, nor want to deal with the issues contained.
[18:58] <Beldar> rbennacer, ubottu is a bot, you have said this is for windows, can you clearly state the whole end goal.
[18:58] <paulus68> Beldar, point taken
[18:59] <Beldar> rbennacer, As of now very little has been given we need details is all. ;)
[19:00] <maddawg2> anyone here ever get FOG (free opensource Ghost) working on Ubuntu 12.04
[19:00] <maddawg2> ?
[19:00] <Capprentice> Are you aware of any text encryption program which can encrypts text?
[19:00] <bprompt> naxa: http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu220/blogwork/mediaphp.png    <--- check the repositories for "ejecter", is there
[19:00] <OerHeks> !info mp4v2-utils
[19:01] <Beldar> rbennacer, Additionally apps not in the ubutu repo are not technically supported here, but you may get help if you can outline your end goal clearly. ;)
[19:01] <rbennacer> Beldar, so i am working on a script that use mp4creator to hint mp4 so they can be played through a streaming server. all this is very old but the goal for now is not to upgrade but to maintain . i am trying to install mp4creator on that machine, but it is not available in my source directory
[19:02] <naxa> bprompt: thanks!
[19:02] <rbennacer> i ve notice that that tool is present in mpeg4ip but i can't find the package neither
[19:02] <Beldar> OerHeks, Do you have some info for rbennacer maybe
[19:03] <Dinosaurio> Will Unity 8 work with common mouses? I heards it is specifically designed for tablets
[19:03] <Munster> paulus68, check this out, it gives some good advice, http://askubuntu.com/questions/199722/backup-programs-and-user-data-from-an-old-hdd-to-a-new-installation-on-ssd
[19:04] <Beldar> rbennacer, Thanks that is more info, I don't think I can really help, but I suspect others can. ;)
[19:05] <Beldar> Dinosaurio, unity 8 is not in a support state so a moot point.
[19:06] <Dinosaurio> hell, man, you guys are so... burocratic people
[19:06] <Beldar> Dinosaurio, no the channel has rules and for good reasons.
[19:06] <Beldar> do the research
[19:07] <rajiv_> #goddardlabs
[19:07] <Beldar> Dinosaurio, This is free help, and not to just serve your whims, but to follow a working protocol. ;)
[19:08] <steeph> Beldar: I'm back, sorry :/
[19:09] <steeph> TestDisk detected only MBR, no GPT, as it should be. I've deleted MBR, still no change.
[19:09] <rbennacer> Beldar, i foudn an alternative to mp4creator, it is mp4box, how can i install this package ? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/mp4box.1.html
[19:10] <steeph> One additional info I remembered: When it worked, the drive was /dev/sda in Ubuntu. Since it's gone now, my other SSD is sda. I'm not sure what exactly this tells me, but I don't think the content of the disk is the problem.
[19:10] <Beldar> steeph, The ssd is not showing up so I'm not surprised, the ssd has no partitions as of now? if it does what are they?
[19:10] <Dinosaurio> Beldar: Okay, thanks anyway
[19:10] <steeph> Beldar: No partitions.
[19:11] <Rosy21>  Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bitly.com/1qaKTCP
[19:11] <Beldar> steeph, I would use windows to make a new one a msdos and see if it shows in ubuntu, just a guess here. All we can do is go through possible variables at this point.
[19:12] <mark06> someone please help me fix software center, it's listing a non-existing repo in menu
[19:12] <Beldar> steeph, A msdos partition table is what I meant
[19:12] <Beldar> mark06, in what menu?
[19:13] <trijntje> I just installed steam on ubuntu but it hangs 'updating steam' at 0kb. Why is it trying to update itself when I just installed the latest version from the repository, and why is it hanging?
[19:14] <steeph> Beldar: Alright, thanks.
[19:14] <Beldar> mark06, you can go to edit in the software center than software sources go to second tab other software and tick or untick repos.
[19:16] <mark06> Beldar: done already, not there, did apt get update too, nothing, software center still displays there ghost repos
[19:16] <mark06> it's some cache it seeems, not sure where
[19:16] <Beldar> steeph, might just be a corrupted table, strange it shows in windows but not in ubuntu is all.
[19:17] <Beldar> mark06, Can you define this better I never use that app, " software center still displays there ghost repos"
[19:18] <Beldar> mark06, I think what your issue is that the software center may show stuff not available without a specific repo open, is this correct?
[19:20] <steeph> Beldar: But shouldn't it show in Ubuntu regardless of the table? I mean, I can't even create a new table in Ubuntu. That's what I find strange. Even the BIOS/UEFI doesn't show it after Ubuntu was booted.
[19:22] <Beldar> steeph, That would be my assumption, however you only have one gpt HD as of now that we can see, gpt comes with that UEFI setup in windows installs. I think what is going on is the voodoo that you have done to have a msdos on one HD and gpt on another and a msdos install has just muddied things up, I would have no way myself in knowing how to get to the bottom of this.
[19:24] <trijntje> I just installed steam on ubuntu but it hangs 'updating steam' at 0kb. Why is it trying to update itself when I just installed the latest version from the repository, and why is it hanging?
[19:25] <Beldar> mark06, It might help to go through repo info in general. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuSoftwareCenter  Honestly your goal is a strange one and makes no sense here. ;)
[19:25] <mark06> Beldar: it is showing repos in repo list that doesn't exist in apt database (/etc/apt...)
[19:25] <mark06> Beldar: is it clear now
[19:26] <Guido1> Is there an enery manager which llows to set up until how much the battery of a latop is charged, because i herad that it is better not to charge 100%
[19:26] <Beldar> mark06, What repo list?
[19:26] <mark06> Beldar: not even the repo manager gui (edit > source repos...) shows the repo, only software center does
[19:26] <Beldar> mark06, So you are set?
[19:26] <mark06> Beldar: I'm sorry but have you ever used it? if you don't know it....
[19:27] <mark06> Beldar: software center is an app manager just like apt or aptitude or synaptic
[19:28] <mark06> Beldar: and it's not working, it's listing repos that have been removed from apt db way long back
[19:28] <steeph> Beldar: The GPT one came with the PC with Windows on it. That's the only reason why it's GPT. Right now I only use the data partition of it. But the problem persists without that disk. I didn't know I shouldn't use both on different disks. I never had a GPT disk before.
[19:28] <mark06> is itclear now?
[19:28] <Beldar> mark06, Sorry read that as is clear. No the syntax you use is really confusing and to generalized, and he software center is a basic app, I know enough to understand it, kit is just a apt-get gui.
[19:28] <Beldar> mark06, All I can say is prove that point somehow.
[19:29] <mark06> Beldar: would you kindly add me to your /ignore list? please, *I mean it*
[19:29] <OerHeks> mark06, make a screenshot please
[19:29] <mark06> OerHeks: ok a sec, I'm trying to purge it....
[19:29] <Beldar> mark06, done at my pleasure, dealing with inexperienced users is a hassle anyway. ;)
[19:30] <Beldar> and people who externalize blame
[19:30] <mark06> OerHeks: first time it said it would remove ubuntu-desktop as well so I canceled it in the middle, but not now... reinstalled and will just try
[19:30]  * mark06 cross fingers
[19:31] <Munster> mark06, a quick fix is to open the /etc/apt/sources.list with user permissions and place a # in front of said repos, then save the file and do an sudo apt-get update.
[19:32] <OerHeks> Munster, but that fix won't work, as PPA's are stored as a txt file in /etc/apr/sources.list.d folder
[19:32] <OerHeks> ppa-purge looks there
[19:32] <mark06> Munster: I grep'ed for a repo's substring on /etc, everything was gone.... found matches only on sources.d or the like (an include dir, can't recall exact name)
[19:33] <Munster> OerHeks, oh should have scrolled up..din't realize it it's a ppa
[19:33] <OerHeks> unless he did add it the old way, then ppa purge cannot do anything
[19:33] <mark06> OMG!  not even purging software-center fixed it!!!!
[19:33] <Dwarf> Why doesn't ubuntu have irssi 0.8.16?
[19:34] <Munster> mark06, open the /etc/apt/sources.list.d and remove the ppa , perhaps
[19:35] <Pici> Dwarf: because it was released in May.
[19:35] <Dwarf> Your point being?
[19:35] <Beldar> steeph, I have not had the pleasure/pain of a UEFI bios as of yet. The manufacturers have their own versions of it and the safe boot so it is a bit of a conundrum for some. I did do a W8.1 reinstall on a friends computer (UEFI) easily done but no linux on it.
[19:35] <Pici> Dwarf: Ubuntu packages are rarely updated after release unless they are major security updates.
[19:35] <Pici> !latest | Dwarf
[19:36] <Dwarf> Are bugfixes not security updates
[19:37] <trijntje> Dwarf: only if the affect security ;)
[19:37] <Dwarf> Eh, I suppose in a way
[19:37] <Dwarf> I can't find any decent PPA's, the one I found has terrorist speech on it
[19:38] <steeph> Beldar: Yeah, I got to know some of the UEFI problems. I just disable secure boot and also got rid of some problems by running legacy mode.
[19:39] <mark06> Dwarf: which one???
[19:39] <Dwarf> mark06, you keep yourself busy with your issue mate
[19:40] <mark06> why
[19:44] <jhutchins> Dwarf: THat's not how irc works.
[19:45] <CPR_Dummy> Dwarf: do you play DF
[19:45] <Dwarf> No
[19:45] <Dwarf> I do forget how to navigate hexchat properly
[19:45] <Dwarf> If that counts
[19:46] <CPR_Dummy> use weechat
[19:46] <Dwarf> hahaha
[19:46] <Dwarf> Never
[19:46] <Dwarf> I'll spend too much time making it look like irssi
[19:47] <penk> hey folks, i'm looking for a simple way to enable / disable unattended-upgrades temporarily.  this'll probably be driven by puppet, so a simple command / update / config file change would be best.
[19:47] <penk> i just want it to Not Run. :)
[19:48] <penk> but be able to be re-enabled easily
[19:48] <holstein> penk: i just disable, and run updates manually.. then, you wont have to enable with a command.. you just upgrade
[19:48] <penk> holstein: how are you disabling?
[19:49] <rbennacer> hey guys, i am trying to use MP4Box and i have a problem with the file name
[19:49] <luist_> hey guys… can i run such commands in postinst when creating a new deb package? http://paste.ofcode.org/ycbXvi9DNjjv8kXjB77VyX
[19:49] <rbennacer> any idea how i can solve it withouth hanging the filename http://pastebin.com/5ZNKaMyE
[19:49] <holstein> penk: i typically just dont enable.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/9/how-do-i-enable-automatic-updates
[19:50] <djQuery_> all of a sudden my title bars and XChat are all scrampled. Video card?
[19:50] <holstein> penk: otherwise, i poke around in whatever GUIs and services, and remove any automated updates..
[19:50] <penk> heh
[19:50] <holstein> djQuery_: nothing about ubuntu scrambles those..
[19:50] <penk> okay, i need a cleaner approach.  i'll keep digging, thanks.
[19:50] <penk> (i need to do this with dozens of servers in an automated way)
[19:51] <vince007> Hey guys
[19:51] <aledzadza> Hello :)
[19:51] <vince007> What is this all about?
[19:52] <jhutchins> djQuery_: Probably a problem with the toolkit libraries.  Which release?  What video hardware.  Unity?  Gnome?
[19:52] <jhoneyber> Hola
[19:52] <jhoneyber> Soy de venezuela
[19:53] <rbennacer> jhutchins, not sure it is
[19:53] <penk> holstein: aha!  /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic : APT::Periodic::Unattended-Upgrade "1";
[19:53] <rbennacer> jhutchins, it seems like the parenthesis are causing the problem in the output filename
[19:53] <penk> change that to 0
[19:53] <djQuery_> holstein: its wierd the body of browsers works fine same with the tabs. but menues and such are just hosed
[19:53] <djQuery_> damit even terminal
[19:54] <minos__1> Hello, is there a need to upgrade the version of OpenVPN that ships with 14.04?
[19:54] <Slurpino> hello all
[19:54] <minos__1> it comes with 2.3.2 which is aparently vulnerable to heartbleed, what can be done about this?
[19:55] <djQuery_> jhutchins: I am on 14.04
[19:56] <jhutchins> minos__1: It's been patched, see the release notes.
[19:56] <jhutchins> minos__1: There's a change in a minor part of the version number, that's how almost every distribution handled it.
[19:56] <minos__1> jhutchins: It says built on Feb  4 2014
[19:57] <Pici> minos__1: What makes you think it is vulnerable to heartbleed?
[19:58] <djQuery_> jhutchins: just format and reinstall likely fix it? the only thing usable is the nav bar and browser
[19:59]  * mark06 pĺays dirty with software-center
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> isnt heartbleed old news? is there no new paranoia yet?
[20:00] <minos__1> Pici: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7598616
[20:00] <ygorabreu> Hi guys. I'm not very familiar with ubuntu, so i wanted a simple way to make a live-usb iniciating my countrie's language and some other apps... is there a simple way, since remastersys is not available anymore?
[20:01] <CPR_Dummy> can you do a net install
[20:01] <minos__1> was only Access Server vulnerable?
[20:02] <CPR_Dummy> ygorabreu:
[20:02] <bprompt> ygorabreu:     for offline installs?
[20:03] <CPR_Dummy> bprompt: quit copying me brah
[20:03] <ygorabreu> bprompt: yes..instaling by usb
[20:03] <jhutchins> djQuery_: I've had the fonts mess up, stayed that way for a while then routine updates fixed it.
[20:04] <jhutchins> djQuery_: Yeah, same thing you describe, all the menus and titlebars were messed up.
[20:04] <Pici> minos__1: Heartbleed was because of an openssl vulnerability, not one actually in openvpn.  The version of openssl that that post is the version available before the fix.
[20:04] <djQuery_> jhutchins: this was working fine then closed xchat and reopened it and all of a sudden cant read it anymore
[20:04] <minos__1> oh i see, I didnt know if it was linked or not, thanks
[20:04] <mark06> minos__1: I don't remember the exact versions affected but I think it's from 1.0.1 on... it's very unlikely that it's not patched already.... but there were more flaws discovered after that.... also probably patched as well... just check the dependency on openssl and what version is it....
[20:05] <jhutchins> djQuery_: reboot, check for updates.  Cross your fingers.
[20:05] <djQuery_> jhutchins: did apply whatever updates cameout yesterday
[20:05] <minos__1> thanks Pici and mark06
[20:05] <Guido1> Hello, I would like to know more about the charging limits of batterys like mentioned in http://support.lenovo.com/en_NL/diagnose-and-fix/detail.page?DocID=HT078208 (the percentages) and how to set that up in (x)ubuntu
[20:05] <mark06> minos__1: http://heartbleed.com -- "What versions of the OpenSSL are affected?"
[20:06] <mark06> too late :-/
[20:06] <lyy> test
[20:06] <lyy> hello
[20:06] <mark06> test has been started, formatting computer in 15 mins... please save your work
[20:07] <lyy> is there a way disable sudo for 1 user?
[20:07] <Pici> lyy: remove them from the sudo/admin group.
[20:07] <lyy> gpasswd -d <username> admin ?
[20:08] <ki7mt> lyy, sudo deluser <username< sudo
[20:08] <_1_Jackiechan242> Hey
[20:08] <code1o6> so is there an easy way to install gcc-4.9 into ubuntu 14.04?

[20:08] <lyy> but i want the user to be able to do admin work
[20:08] <bprompt> ygorabreu:    you can do that using the .iso for ubuntu, just grab the iso, burn it to a usb, give it some room for "persistent storage"   boot with it, install install stuff, set your settings, when you shutdown all changes and installed apps are kept in the "persistent storage" area in the usb
[20:08] <_1_Jackiechan242> m or f
[20:08] <_1_Jackiechan242> kik
[20:08] <_1_Jackiechan242> Hey kik m or f
[20:08] <ki7mt> lyy, you want to remove them from the sudo group, but still do admin work?
[20:09] <asturel> anyone knows why is this happen? http://eeew.tk/u/WQ9qEg.png
[20:09] <lyy> ki7mt: yes
[20:09] <lyy> sounds like i need to remove sudo
[20:09] <ki7mt> lyy, can you expand on admin work a bit
[20:09] <asturel> basicly application becomes 'invisible' until i didnt click on them
[20:09] <bprompt> ygorabreu:     ... wait... that keeps the live-session... change... it won't install them to on a fresh install
[20:10] <lyy> i want to have a user do admin work without having to type sudo all the type
[20:10] <lyy> i have a system that deploys 1 script to many different linux distro flavors
[20:10] <ygorabreu> bprompt: yeah..exactly.. i want this "live usb" to have all the apps and languages i add..
[20:11] <lyy> i want to only have to make changes to 1 script
[20:11] <lyy> most systems do not use sudo
[20:12] <ki7mt> lyy, I dont know what systems are "most" .. but Ubuntu uses sudo. If you want a single package on muliple distros, create a package for that particular distro.
[20:13] <lyy> k thanks.
[20:13] <aledzadza> how do i connect to servers with ssl with irssi?
[20:14] <holstein> !freenode | aledzadza
[20:14] <Pici> aledzadza: the -ssl argument to /connect
[20:15] <ki7mt> aledzadza, More info: https://freenode.net/certfp/certfp-irssi.shtml
[20:15] <gpaXding> hello there
[20:16] <bprompt> !uck | ygorabreu
[20:16] <aledzadza> ki7mt: is it diffrent from all servers?
[20:17] <Dave77> how do I edit .ts files on ubuntu? I chopping files down in side
[20:17] <ygorabreu> bprompt: ill give it a try...thanks
[20:17] <bprompt> np
[20:18] <ki7mt> aledzadza, Yes, you need to check the server your connecting too for their specific requirements, the Link was for Freenode
[20:19] <aledzadza> ki7mt: ok thanks alot :)
[20:20] <lamer> hello, first time here and i've had ubuntu server running on a little fit-pc for a bunch of years
[20:20] <gpaXding> I got an external harddisk on usb (sdb) , i did an ntfsresize of the disk ( was initially formatted by a win xp machine ) to shrink its partition size... to give space for another partition and file system. I did a checlk to see how much data it had and shrunk it to a size to fit all data , then used fdisk to delet and set new partition size to slightly igger than the ntfs resize size ( as someone sugested on the web, set it to partition typ
[20:20] <gpaXding> e 7... and wrotew to the partition table... still the system seems not able to mount the partitions sayiong missing ntfs signature ... im pretty sure ntfsresiize did its jkob so im intressted in figurei ng how to manage to fix the last step so the partition can be mounted again
[20:20] <lamer> i'm on 10.04.4 LTS but that's as far as my cpu will let me upgrade
[20:22] <gpaXding> any suggestion what to do next to finish the shrink job ?
[20:23] <ki7mt> lamer, what hardware are us using?
[20:23] <maddawg2> ok fascinating problem...   I cant get ubuntu to properly resolve windows host names
[20:23] <Beldar> lamer, Not supported unless a server is all, I suspect you can run a lighter dektop and upgrade.
[20:23] <lamer> is there a good reason to keep updating when I get "linux-generic linux-image-generic"
[20:23] <lamer> being held back
[20:23] <lamer> i cant quite tell what it will upgrade
[20:24] <zykotick9> lamer: use dist-upgrade to get kernel updates!
[20:24] <maddawg2> i've installed Winbind and am able to ping by name and get a response but if I try to nslookup the computer name I get "server cant find <computername>: SERVFAIL
[20:24] <Beldar> lamer, Try dist-upgrade needed for kernels and security upgrades
[20:24] <lamer> thanks zykotick9 i'm just wondering why upgrades continue to be available
[20:24] <lamer> isn't 10.04.4 not supported anymore?
[20:24] <zykotick9> lamer: oh this is the 10.04 box, good luck...
[20:25] <maddawg2> i have two DNS servers and they are set in ubuntu and ubuntu is using them. However the first response I get from my first DNS is Got SERVFAIL reply from <DNS Server IP>
[20:25] <Beldar> lamer, The 10.04 server is still supported not the desktop
[20:25] <lamer> if I want to continue running it should I continue doing the updates?
[20:25] <lamer> ahh ok
[20:25] <lamer> thanks beldar
[20:25] <Beldar> np
[20:25] <lamer> so I should update
[20:26] <lamer> any risks to not updating
[20:26] <lamer> in case something goes wrong?
[20:26] <lamer> or are the risks worse
[20:26] <Beldar> lamer, Try a lubuntu live of 14.04, I bet it will run fine.
[20:27] <Dave77> what DVB TV apps are there for ubuntu?
[20:28] <maddawg2> nvm realized what was happening
[20:28] <lamer> the box I have has a geode processor
[20:28] <maddawg2> i needed the full domain name in there since my ubuntu machine isnt part of the domain
[20:29] <Beldar> lamer, You are not far from no support here is all, so if you want it you may have to adapt is all. check the 10.04 server eol. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases  As of now your desktop has no support, technically you have none here as of now.
[20:30] <k1l> Dave77: just load the channels.conf with vlc, works great
[20:30] <Dave77> VLC is too basic for everyday use
[20:31] <Beldar> lamer, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+package/xserver-xorg-video-geode your hardware is supported beyond 10.04. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+package/xserver-xorg-video-geode
[20:31] <Beldar> https://www.google.com/search?q=geode+processor+14.04&btnG=Search&hl=en&gbv=1 lamer
[20:32] <lamer> beldar, what I have is a server not a desktop
[20:32] <lamer> do you mean i cant get much support because of my version?
[20:32] <Beldar> lamer, good than you have till 2015.
[20:32] <lamer> ah great, so I can keep running it
[20:33] <Matml> Hi all.
 do you mean i cant get much support because of my version? You have support here till you are eol
[20:33] <lamer> great thanks beldar
[20:33] <Beldar> lamer, Some as you can tell will not support however it is their option. ;)
[20:34] <ki7mt> lamer, if it's just server, you should try to test 12.04 or even 14.04 server before Apr-2015, as that's when 10.04 server is EOL
[20:34] <jhutchins> Dave77: Compared to what?
[20:34] <lamer> when I try to upgrade it says I can't
[20:34] <lamer> i think its a limitation of my cpu
[20:35] <Dave77> dvbviewer, mytheatre, progdvb etc etc
[20:35] <domsson> Trying to perm-mount shares from my NAS on my 14.04 machine via CIFS. Using the NAS' name (instead of its IP Addr.), I get `mount error: could not resolve address for readynas` when trying the new fstab line via `mount -a`; any idea why?
[20:35] <jhutchins> Dave77: So install one of those.
[20:36] <Dave77> Yes but I don't want to use windoze as my desktop..
[20:36] <Dave77> so I can't understand why there are no good DVB-TV apps on linux..
[20:36] <Dave77> do they want people to use linux or not?
[20:37] <Dave77> so people have to stay on windoze...
[20:37] <Matml> Is anyone free to give me a bit of advice? When I use apt-get I am getting a lot of errors now, all around "ImportError: No module named 'site'". Thanks.
[20:37] <slimalighieri> hello
[20:38] <ki7mt> lamer, if I recall, those CPU's are Natonal/AMD or Cyrix, all of which were under x86 (32bit). I'd have to diggin on the kernel, but
[20:38] <ki7mt> it's should not present too big of an issue.
[20:38] <lamer>  Geode LX 800 is the cpu it says
[20:38] <jhutchins> Dave77: Never heard of mythtv?
[20:39] <Bashing-om> Matml: Sure, there is help . pastebin the outputs of -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- so we get the errors in context.
[20:39] <jhutchins> !mythtv
[20:39] <lamer> and when I tried to upgrade to the latest it says i am unable
[20:39] <lamer> so i think im stuck with 10.04 until its put to rest
[20:40] <lamer> but i dont mind as its great for just a web server and irc
[20:40] <lamer> basic stuff
[20:41] <lamer> but my original question was should I keep updating
[20:41] <lamer> when it wants to update inux-generic linux-image-generic
[20:41] <lamer> it holds them back
[20:41] <lamer> but should I dist-upgrade
[20:42] <lamer> or would i risk the stability
[20:42] <Matml> Bashing-om: Thanks - update is fine, here is upgrade http://hastebin.com/umeweboqep.vbs and then the install -f option http://hastebin.com/soyisepivi.vbs
[20:42] <zykotick9> !dist-upgrade | lamer
[20:42] <Bashing-om> Matml: Look'n .
[20:42] <ki7mt> lamer, Yes, if you want to upgrade the kernel updates, dist-upgrade.
[20:42] <lamer> ok
[20:42] <lamer> sometimes it has made some programs run flaky
[20:43] <lamer> like bitlbee
[20:44] <lamer> but anyway, thanks you guys are great and i'm looking to add more devices to my ubuntu collection
[20:44] <Matml> Bashing-om: And I also get that same 'No module named 'site'' error coming up when I do a few other things in terminal (such as trying to look at cpufreq with powersave)
[20:44] <Dave77> jhutchins: used mythtv years ago on windows.. didn't think much to it
[20:44] <lamer> so i'll be back
[20:44] <ki7mt> lamer, I see the LX 800 is being run on Arch, Debian and many others. config.guess may be coming back with i586, but the current instruction set supposedly was patched for i686, it should run on later kernels.
[20:45] <lamer> hmm
[20:45] <Dave77> .. not interested in media centre look. are there no other TV apps on linux?
[20:45] <lamer> so should I try to upgrade the kernel on this thing?
[20:45] <lamer> it might give me the "unable to upgrade" message
[20:45] <Dave77> I want to ditch windoze and use desktop linux but the apps are not there
[20:45] <lamer> but i'll let you know what happens
[20:46] <djQuery> jhutchins, well was able to apply any updates via terminal (don't know if anything actually installed couldn't read it) reboot and its working again
[20:46] <djQuery> jhutchins, thanks
[20:49] <Bashing-om> Matml: System not to happy with python3 huh ? .. Let's poke at it and see about --purge/(re-)install. what returns from -> apt-cache policy python3-uno , dpkg -l python3-uno <- ??
[20:50] <ki7mt> Dave77, what app specifically in Windows do need that you can't a comparable app in Ubuntu
[20:51] <ki7mt> can't find ..
[20:51] <Matml> Bashing-om: Thanks! http://hastebin.com/juhagacila.avrasm
[20:51] <Bashing-om> Matml: look'n .
[20:51] <zeak> Hi guys! I try to repair my Win XP boot by boot-repair and testdisk. That's the later boot-repair raport: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7702349/ If someone can help me, thank you...
[20:51] <jhutchins> Dave77: The point is that most of that software was developed on Linux, including mythtv.  Doesn't sound like you have an actual software problem.
[20:52] <OerHeks> !dvn
[20:52] <OerHeks> b
[20:52] <OerHeks> !dvb
[20:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko> On ubuntu I am trying to move all files and folders under /var/www/magento-sample-data-1.9.0.0 to /var/www/ how can I do this?
[20:54] <genii> ToAruShiroiNeko: Probably something like: cd /var/www ..then sudo mv magento-whatever/* .
[20:56] <smokie> to enable ftp on my ubuntu server, do i have to install vsftp or is there something i can do localy?
[20:56] <ki7mt> ToAruShiroiNeko, you can use a link (ln -s), you edit your virtual host file to point to magneto-.. .. .. or use .htaccess to redirect, or manually move the files, lots of options, #ubuntu-server is probably best for server config questions.
[20:56] <Bashing-om> Matml: "iFR python3-uno " says we need to work on it to help the package manager. What results -> sudo dpkg-reconfigure python3-uno <- ??
[20:56] <bekks> smokie: for havin an ftp server, you need to install one.
[20:57] <Matml> Bashing-om: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: python3-uno is broken or not fully installed.
[20:57] <smokie> bekks, so like vsftp? or is there something else?
[20:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ki7mt its easier to just move
[20:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> its far too long to type or bother
[20:57] <bekks> smokie: vsftpd does a pretty good job.
[20:57] <ki7mt> ToAruShiroiNeko, easy is not always the right choice, but that's up to you as the admin.
[20:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it would require dividing magento content into two
[20:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont think that would even work
[20:58] <smokie> bekks, thanks dude
[20:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> sudo mv magento-whatever/* . doesnt work as it complains about full folders
[20:58] <es> hi, /i've got an intel 7260HMWDTX1 wifi chip and it has issues holding a connection in 14.04
[20:59] <Bashing-om> Matml: OK, Let's bump it up a notch -> sudo apt-get install --reinstall python3-uno <- .
[21:00] <ki7mt> ToAruShiroiNeko, for example. on my ubuntu-mirror, the data is in /home/<mirror-username>, like 200GB of data, I simply link it to /var/www/ubuntu and all my boxes access the packages from the server that way. Just a thought.
[21:00] <Matml> Bashing-om: Had tried that earlier, just redid and here's the output http://hastebin.com/beqisusigo.vbs
[21:00] <Bashing-om> Matml: look'n .
[21:01] <aledzadza> is there an easy way to get a graph over your network trafic ?
[21:02] <k1l> aledzadza: system load indicator for unity
[21:03] <ki7mt> aledzadza, bmon, iftop, tcptrack, just to name a few.
[21:04] <ki7mt> aledzadza, iptraf is another really nice tool also.
[21:05] <svip> One of my partition devices disappeared!  I can no longer find /dev/sdc1
[21:05] <holstein> svip: partition devices? you mean, a hard drive?
[21:06] <svip> holstein: Basically, yes.
[21:06] <ki7mt> aledzadza, I've not used this one, but it looks cool: Monitorix
[21:06] <zubuntu> hi there
[21:06] <svip> holstein: But I had /dev/sdc1 mounted, suddenly I got an input/output error reading/writing to the disk.
[21:06] <zubuntu> can somebody help me to install openoffice 4.1 pls ?
[21:06] <svip> I then noticed it was gone from /dev
[21:06] <holstein> svip: you can look in "sudo fdisk -l"
[21:07] <zubuntu> i downloaded by the command : wget http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.0/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
[21:07] <holstein> zubuntu: sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[21:07] <zubuntu> after that when i do this command : tar -xvfz Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
[21:07] <zubuntu> it gives error no such direction
[21:07] <zubuntu> holstein: no libreoffice
[21:07] <holstein> zubuntu: you want libreoffice, not open office.. its the modern fork, basically, of openoffice
[21:07] <zubuntu> i want openoffice
[21:07] <svip> holstein: Nope, that doesn't list it either.
[21:07] <zubuntu> i know what i want holstein
[21:07] <holstein> zubuntu: libreoffice is actually the one i think you are seeking..
[21:08] <Hammerhead> ARRRGGGG Displaylink drivers in 14.04?? I am staring at 2 monitors both have green screens but for the last day I have been trying to get the config right and still am having trouble. anyone have multiple monitors with displaylink adapters?
[21:08] <zubuntu> can somebody help me to install openoffice pls ?
[21:08] <zubuntu> tar: z: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[21:08] <zubuntu> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[21:08] <zubuntu> error is this
[21:08] <zubuntu> when i try to extract the tar.gz
[21:08] <aledzadza> ki7mt: but can i show it on my homepage?
[21:08] <svip> holstein: I can see my /dev/sda*, /dev/sdb* and /dev/sdd* (which I am not sure what is).
[21:08] <holstein> zubuntu: you will ask the creators and maintainers of the file how to use what they create. otherwise,i suggest a PPA
[21:09] <zubuntu> http://askubuntu.com/questions/471437/unable-to-install-apache-openoffice-4-1-on-ubuntu-14-04
[21:09] <zubuntu> i am trying to do these commands
[21:09] <Bashing-om> Matml: Humm, Let's clean out the archives, remove the control files, and rebuid the data bases -> sudo apt-get clean , sudo rm -fr /var/lib/apt/lists , sudo mkdir -pv /var/lib/apt/lists/partial , sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- .
[21:09] <holstein> zubuntu: you really should be using libreoffice.. there is no reason to use openoffice instead, and libreoffice is included in the repos
[21:10] <Bashing-om> rebuild*
[21:10] <holstein> zubuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/471437/unable-to-install-apache-openoffice-4-1-on-ubuntu-14-04 does seem to outline how to do it.. thats what i would use
[21:10] <ki7mt> aledzadza, You'd ahve to look at each app, maybe export the data and re-render it, or find web-based tools to pull and render the data your after.
[21:10] <s2013> how do you copy and paste a file?
[21:10] <s2013> am i doing something wrong? i righ tclick and copied a file
[21:10] <s2013> but paste is inactive
[21:10] <svip> holstein: All my other partitions are working fine.
[21:11] <zubuntu> holstein: so which commands are suitable ?
[21:11] <holstein> zubuntu: just download the tarball for your architecture, and you can right click to extract to the .deb.. then, you can click the deb to install
[21:11] <Matml> Bashing-om: Ok, doing!
[21:11] <holstein> zubuntu: they all look "suitable".. though, i prefer, and suggest "sudo apt-get install libreoffice"..
[21:12] <zubuntu> holstein: :p
[21:12] <zubuntu> i think u dont understand me
[21:12] <zubuntu> i am old fashioned a bit
[21:12] <zubuntu> and i want the feel of 10.10
[21:12] <zubuntu> with gnome classic and openoffice
[21:13] <zubuntu> not unity bullshit
[21:13] <zubuntu> or libreoffice
[21:13] <holstein> zubuntu: then, ask for support with the creators of the appication.. which is now, libreoffice
[21:13] <holstein> !language | zubuntu
[21:13] <Matml> Bashing-om: Ok, done! Same output from sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:13] <ki7mt> zubuntu, as holstein said, you should consider using Libreoffice, more info here: http://www.howtogeek.com/187663/openoffice-vs.-libreoffice-whats-the-difference-and-which-should-you-use/
[21:13] <zubuntu> grrrrr
[21:14] <holstein> zubuntu: here at the openoffice ones.. http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.0/binaries/en-US/
[21:14] <zubuntu> guys why dont u just help me to install openoffice pls ?
[21:14] <holstein> zubuntu: i *am*
[21:14] <holstein> zubuntu: but, you misunderstand what libreoffice is. its *is* the openoffice that you seek
[21:14] <holstein> zubuntu: but, if you still want openoffice, which, there is no reason for you to prefer it, you can get it from http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.0/binaries/en-US/
[21:15] <holstein> zubuntu: if you have issues with the package that they provide, let them konw.. they are not ubuntu packages.. otherwise, download, extract, click on *.deb and install
[21:15] <Darkwell> hello there
[21:15] <zubuntu> hm
[21:16] <zubuntu> m@THINK:~/Downloads/en-US/DEBS$ dpkg -i *.deb
[21:16] <zubuntu> dpkg: error: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[21:16] <zubuntu> huh ?
[21:17] <holstein> zubuntu: yes.. installing applications needs that
[21:17] <domsson> Trying to mounta CIFS share, I get "mount error(95): Operation not supported" which doesn't help me too much. How can I go from here?
[21:17] <domsson> *mount a
[21:17] <holstein> zubuntu: but, you can do *exactly* this.. download the compressed fil you want from http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.0/binaries/en-US/ ..right click and extract it. then, just click on the .deb file
[21:17] <Bashing-om> Matml: Think'n as to the why ... 3rd party software ?? ... lemme check what is supposed to be installed .. I be back.
[21:17] <Matml> Bashing-om: Nothing outside of the software centre.
[21:18] <holstein> zubuntu: you need sudo dpkg above..
[21:18] <zubuntu> holstein: i already downloaded
[21:18] <zubuntu> why cant i do it by command ?
[21:18] <ki7mt> sudo
[21:18] <Darkwell> I got a prob mounting an external usb disk partition (sdb1) , i used ntfsresize and shrunk it to make space for other partitions, ntfsresize shrunk without any errors and i used fdisk to delete old partition table and add new partition alsightly bigger than the ntfsresize size. still Im not able to mount this partitions its reporting missing ntfs signature ... what have I missed to do to finish the resize completely ?
[21:19] <holstein> zubuntu: you need root to install.. or, just open the terminal and install supported and functional libreoffice that is supported and funcitonal and works well
[21:19] <Darkwell> made sure to se the partition to type 7 , also btw
[21:19] <zubuntu> done :p
[21:19] <holstein> zubuntu: there is no reason for you to use openoffice.. you have no legitimate reason to prefer it.. it is only complicating your situation, and not supported here
[21:20] <domsson> holstein, he is old fashioned, so I guess his reason is that he wants to stick with exactly what he's used to.
[21:20] <Bashing-om> Matml: "1:4.2.4-0ubuntu2 [security]: amd64 i386" is what is supposed to be installed. lemme do a bit more checking.
[21:20] <holstein> sure. and thats libreoffice.. its actually  *more* like the old openoffice than apache openoffice..
[21:20] <ki7mt> +1
[21:20] <Matml> Bashing-om: Thanks!
[21:21] <domsson> Yeah, I'm all for LibreOffice, am using it myself.
[21:21] <ki7mt> If it did not have the App name in the title bar, you couldnt' tell the difference for the most part
[21:21] <holstein> if the team could have taken the name, they would have..
[21:21] <zubuntu> thx thx thx
[21:21] <zubuntu> done
[21:22] <zubuntu> but OO icons are bigger than libreoffice icons
[21:22] <holstein> zubuntu: enjoy.. if you are interested in old openoffice, try libreoffice sometime
[21:22] <zubuntu> weird
[21:22] <zubuntu> holstein: i am fine with this :p
[21:22] <holstein> zubuntu: icon sizes can change from release to release..
[21:22] <ethan> hello
[21:23] <zubuntu> is it old ?
[21:23] <zubuntu> i mean doesnt they upgrade it ?
[21:23] <holstein> zubuntu: whats your question, friend?
[21:23] <holstein> zubuntu: is what old?
[21:23] <zubuntu> openoffice
[21:24] <zubuntu> dont they upgrade it sometime ?
[21:24] <ki7mt> omg
[21:24] <holstein> zubuntu: libreoffice is current supported. and in the repos. so if you are worried about recievin updates, thats the one you want
[21:24] <holstein> zubuntu: the facts are here.. http://www.howtogeek.com/187663/openoffice-vs.-libreoffice-whats-the-difference-and-which-should-you-use/ as ki7mt shared
[21:25] <zubuntu> hm
[21:26] <holstein> i mean, if you literally are just going by the name, im only suggesting that you actually try the products. libreoffice is the most like older openoffice..
[21:26] <Guest97491> I was wondering if anyone can help me with a problem I am having. After I make a live usb using dd I can not use it. It says it is a read only and gparted does not detect it, but the disks application does. I was wondering if anyone has a fix for this. I have tried changing the partition table and deleting the partition then making a new one.
[21:26] <domsson> I did a research on the topic just a month ago. Result, short version: go with LibreOffice.
[21:27] <MonkeyDust> zubuntu  drop openoffice, use libreoffice
[21:27] <holstein> zubuntu: i literally am only suggesting that you try them both, and make the decision your self.. or do the research.. there is more to it than just the name, which was not owned by the team
[21:28] <zubuntu> i will try openoffice
[21:28] <holstein> zubuntu: you are using openoffice...
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> zubuntu  why don't you try libreoffice?
[21:29] <zubuntu> MonkeyDust: i alreadt tried it :p
[21:29] <zubuntu> already*
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> zubuntu  great, what goes wrong?
[21:29] <zubuntu> lol
[21:29] <zubuntu> i miss the past sometimes
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> the paste?
[21:30] <Dave77> are there any utils like cpu-z on ubuntu?
[21:30] <holstein> zubuntu: libreoffice is more like the past openoffice
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> ah, the past, the old days
[21:30] <zubuntu> holstein: i have noticed that
[21:31] <MonkeyDust> zubuntu  time to move on, head for the future
[21:31] <zubuntu> well
[21:31] <zubuntu> this is not future
[21:31] <zubuntu> future is using microsoft office in ubuntu :p
[21:31] <zubuntu> and compatible with pc
[21:32] <ki7mt> This one will surely win the daily Pandoras box award
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> zubuntu  i guess ypou just lost everybody's sympathy and will to assist you
[21:32] <mikeg3> Hi I am having difficulty installing Ubuntu…I have a Compaq Presario SR5510F with 2GB RAM with  Windows Vista already installed.  Two basic issues: (1) the GRUB install failed, and (2) having trouble with older nVidia GForce 6150SE graphics card and getting video to work.  Any ideas?  Thanks in advance…
[21:32] <zubuntu> lol MonkeyDust
[21:32] <holstein> microsoft is welcome to release what they like for linux.. but, lets please continue this is #ubuntu-offtopic.. thanks, zubuntu
[21:33] <holstein> mikeg3: can you get "video to work" with the live CD? in nomodeset? or any other way?
[21:34] <Bashing-om> Matml: Try -> dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq python3-uno , sudo apt-get install python3-uno , sudo apt-get check <- .
[21:34] <ki7mt> mikeg3, IIn the past I suggested using EasyBCD for dual booting Vista and Ubuntu, but was told it's muddling the boot, but its works for me, you may want to looking into using it.
[21:35] <holstein> mikeg3: i would just force grub to install after the os installation.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair you can share errors if any, then move on to graphics support
[21:35] <ajf> "$@" &>/dev/null & disown
[21:35] <ajf> this isn’t doing what I want
[21:35] <ajf> should there be a space between > and /
[21:35] <Matml> Bashing-om: The output from the first command http://hastebin.com/ucolerojom.lua - it all seems to be coming down to this site module thing!
[21:36] <ntiy> I am building some stuff from source and I get the following error: "/usr/bin/ld: attempted static link of dynamic object `../lib/.libs/libcurl.so'" Does anybody know what it means?
[21:36] <Bashing-om> Matml: look'n .
[21:38] <ki7mt> ntiy, try using -lcurl v.s. passing libcurl.so
[21:38] <domsson> Even the basic `mount.cifs -o guest //ip-addr/share /mnt/share` gives me `mount error(95): Operation not supported` - what could possibly be wrong with it?
[21:39] <rypervenche> If my netmask is coming up incorrectly on my Ubuntu server and my interfaces file is set up correctly, where would I look to fix this?
[21:39] <domsson> (of course, 'ip-addr' is being replaced with an actual ip-address)
[21:39] <_2_daniboo> hello
[21:40] <ki7mt> ntiy, and, make sure you have libcurl3 / curl installed.
[21:41] <ntiy> ki7mt: let me try...
[21:41] <Bashing-om> Matml: Don't know yet ! .. I am hampered as on my system "sysop@1310mini:~$ dpkg -l python3-uno ->>dpkg-query: no packages found matching python3-uno" Think'n some more.
[21:41] <ntiy> ki7mt: problem is that it is libcurl itself what I am building
[21:42] <ntiy> so I am a little confused -- why is is trying to link against libcurl while building libcurl...
[21:42] <ki7mt> ntiy, to answer the question, the build looks to be --static, and your linking against a shared object ".so". Using -lcurl should pick up the .a file or the static library.
[21:42] <_2_daniboo> Hi am new
[21:43] <ntiy> ki7mt: I configured it with "--enable-static=no"
[21:43] <Matml> Bashing-om: Thanks. This is the output from a powersave command
[21:43] <Matml> Bashing-om: http://hastebin.com/urovomaket.rb
[21:43] <NightHawk877> join #ubuntu-touch
[21:43] <ki7mt> ntiy, Are you following a guide somwhere or something?
[21:43] <rypervenche> Is /etc/network/interfaces the only place that my network's netmask may be located?
[21:44] <ki7mt> ntiy, and just for background, why build it v.s. just installing the repo versions?
[21:44] <ntiy> not really. I mean it's supposed to be an easy install: CC=cc ./configure --enable-static=no --with-zlib=/home/trn/zlib/1.2.8/lib --prefix=/home/trn/curl/7.37.0" and then "make"
[21:45] <ntiy> ki7mt: it's an hpc cluster machine and we build everything from scratch here
[21:46] <ki7mt> ntiy, Is this a Ubuntu server?
[21:46] <ntiy> nope :-\
[21:46] <holstein> ntiy: so, you are not using ubuntu? or ubuntu packages?
[21:46] <heap_> hi i cant click on anything in unity, keyboard works, i can use tab for apps and typing.. but mouse cursor is moving but no reaction, idea?
[21:47] <zubuntu> how can i install adobe reader ?
[21:47] <ki7mt> ntiy, If not Ubuntu, are you sure your asking in the right place :-)
[21:47] <holstein> !pdf | zubuntu
[21:47] <ntiy> ki7mt: yep. it's still linux and ubuntu channel has many knowledgeable people  :)
[21:47] <ki7mt> zubuntu, see info: http://askubuntu.com/questions/89127/how-do-i-install-adobe-acrobat-reader
[21:48] <holstein> zubuntu: i would try one from the repos, and if that doest work, you can get adobe reader from adobe.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/89127/how-do-i-install-adobe-acrobat-reader
[21:48] <ntiy> what difference does a particular distro makes in this context?
[21:48] <ki7mt> ntiy, But the channel is pretty strick on being Ubuntu related, you may find help in ##linux
[21:48] <holstein> ntiy: surely, you can see how this is not the proper avenue for support for what you are doing.. i would try and contacing the creators of the software you are having issues with
[21:48] <ntiy> ok, thanks
[21:49] <heap_> any?;/
[21:49] <vimes1984> hello all
[21:49] <vimes1984> I have having major headaches
[21:49] <vimes1984> uninstalling
[21:49] <vimes1984> git
[21:49] <vimes1984> or updating git
[21:49] <holstein> heap_: i would see if its the same in the guest account..
[21:49] <vimes1984> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:git-core/ppa
[21:49] <vimes1984> sudo apt-get update
[21:49] <vimes1984> sudo apt-get install git
[21:49] <vimes1984> doesn't work
[21:49] <holstein> !ppa | vimes1984
[21:50] <heap_> holstein: it happens randomly right now
[21:50] <heap_> i worked before
[21:50] <holstein> vimes1984: you would have to ask the maintainers of the ppa.. though, it may just be temprarily down,or not supporting your ubuntu version
[21:50] <holstein> heap_: before what? any details you can share can help a volunteer assist you
[21:50] <ki7mt> vimes1984, git is in the repos, why use the PPA ?
[21:50] <vimes1984> it's not that it doesn't install
[21:50] <holstein> vimes1984: ok.. try the repo version
[21:50] <vimes1984> because the one in the repo is behind and i need to use google app engine
[21:50] <vimes1984> which requires
[21:50] <heap_> holstein: i wanted to do some clicks in spotify, did lot of clicks and then it happend
[21:50] <vimes1984> 1.8
[21:51] <holstein> vimes1984: we cant support that ppa version here, though.. you'll have to ask the maintainers of the ppa version
[21:51] <vimes1984> that ppa installs fine
[21:51] <ki7mt> vimes1984, fare enough, I'd recommend contacting the PPA maintainer for assistance then.
[21:51] <heap_> holstein: i got dialog that something in spotyfi some helper crashed but mouse is still inactive. well i can move etc but no reaction on click
[21:51] <holstein> vimes1984: sure, and thats not the issue.. the issue is, its not an ubuntu source..
[21:52] <vimes1984> no the issue is that the ubuntu source is 4 version behind
[21:52] <holstein> heap_: what flash are you using?
[21:52] <holstein> vimes1984: thats "as advertised" though.. its not a rolling release.. the versions of most everything are frozen like that..
[21:52] <heap_> holstein: no idea, is there any connection with flash?
[21:52] <vimes1984> git isn't
[21:52] <vimes1984> git is behind
[21:52] <holstein> vimes1984: you can try building git yourself, and that may be the easiest
[21:53] <asturel> anyone knows why is this happen? http://eeew.tk/u/WQ9qEg.png the window becomes invisible until i click it and go back to 'desktop view' or whatever this
[21:53] <vimes1984> bugger that is what i didn't want to do
[21:53] <heap_> holstein: i meant spotify client application not over web
[21:53] <vimes1984> ok so on to my other issue
[21:53] <vimes1984> i can't remove git either
[21:53] <holstein> vimes1984: most everything in ubuntu is frozen. and not updated like that
[21:53] <zubuntu> bad package error
[21:53] <ki7mt> vimes1984, yes, all packages are, most are frozen at the Debian import freeze, this has been the methodology for a long time.
[21:54] <vimes1984> so what do i do
[21:54] <holstein> heap_: you can try running the spotify client from the terminal and see if there are any error messages that help
[21:54] <vimes1984> is building my own the only way?
[21:54] <holstein> vimes1984: you can build whatever version you like, friend..
[21:54] <heap_> holstein: but mouse doesnt react for whole unity
[21:54] <ki7mt> vimes1984, as stated several time, contact the PPA maintainer for assistance on install their package.
[21:54] <holstein> vimes1984: you can look for another ppa,or offer to help maintain the one you are using, after you determine the ppa version is "bad"
[21:54] <heap_> holstein: i cant click in ff, terminal and so on
[21:55] <vimes1984> ok
[21:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> is there a way to extract magento-sample-data-1.9.0.0.tar.gz to a specific folder rather than magento-sample-data-1.9.0.0 subdir
[21:55] <vimes1984> cool
[21:55] <vimes1984> thanks
[21:55] <holstein> heap_: you said, thats after the spotify crash
[21:55] <trism> vimes1984: you could update to 14.04, it has 1.9.1
[21:55] <heap_> holstein: i exited spotify client and now it works.
[21:55] <heap_> holstein: part of spotify, some spotify helper or so
[21:56] <holstein> heap_: so, is spotify causing the breakage, as you have implied, or no?
[21:56] <heap_> holstein: yes, spotify ;)
[21:57] <heap_> holstein:  i did few random click inside spotify client and some spotify helper crashed, client was running but mouse stoped to react in the whole unity. after i killed spotify client it started work properly
[21:57] <ki7mt> ToAruShiroiNeko, you could try: mkdir magneto-sample-data && tar xf  magento-sample-data-1.9.0.0.tar.gz -C magneto-sample-data --strip-components 1
[21:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> what would that do?
[21:58] <ki7mt> ToAruShiroiNeko, makes a directory, and untars the file to it, or shoild do anyway.
[21:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> all i want to do is omve all files and folders in a subdir to some place else and I am reading manual after another
[21:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I cant believe this is this complicated in linux
[21:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ki7mt I want to extract it to an existing dir
[21:59] <heap_> holstein: i must block it somehow
[21:59] <baddin> haw
[21:59] <ki7mt> then change the name of the target directory to what you want.
[22:00] <ki7mt> Totar xf  magento-sample-data-1.9.0.0.tar.gz -C <directory-name> --strip-components 1
[22:00] <ki7mt> ToAruShiroiNeko, sri: tar xf  magento-sample-data-1.9.0.0.tar.gz -C <directory-name> --strip-components 1
[22:01] <ki7mt> ToAruShiroiNeko, or extract then mv the folder
[22:01] <heap_> holstein: another thing when i did upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 today, it crashed in between then finished somehow. in logs are around 30 packages marked as Errors were encountered while processing: ... distro booted successfuly but no idea if any impact is there
[22:02] <holstein> heap_: i would fix *all* of those, and expect issues til that is resolved..
[22:02] <holstein> heap_: i would run "sudo apt-get update" and look for errors, and address them. the same for "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[22:02] <macscam1> when a command line program opens a browser, it is always firefox .... how do i change this to chrome?
[22:03] <holstein> macscam1: i set my systemwide browser choice.. you can try sudo update-alternatives –config x-www-browser
[22:03] <ki7mt> macscam1, Dash >> System Settings >> Details .. Use Web pull down
[22:04] <macscam1> ki7mt actually it is already chromium there
[22:04] <Matml> Bashing-om: I'm having no luck googling for similar problems, they all just focus on python, talking about version conflicts.
[22:04] <heap_> holstein: well after broken update i did reboot, then when i did apt-get update and so on no errors were displayed anymore
[22:05] <Bashing-om> Matml: Playing catch up from my last. Food for thought -> " PYTHONPATH is used by the Python interpreter to find out where to look for modules to import. ".
[22:05] <Matml> Bashing-om:echo of it is blank
[22:05] <ki7mt> macscam1, ok, try: xdg-settings set default-web-browser chromium.desktop  But the revious should work, mybe log out and log back int to take affect.
[22:05] <holstein> heap_: ok.. specifically run the 2 commands i gave.. run them again if you did already. you can pastebin..
[22:05] <holstein> !paste
[22:06] <macscam1> ki7mt i have logged out many times since changing it, doesnt work
[22:06] <holstein> macscam1: setting with sudo update-alternatives –config x-www-browser doesnt help?
[22:06] <ki7mt> macscam1, Sir, commabd was wrong, use: xdg-settings set default-web-browser chromium-browser.desktop
[22:07] <ki7mt> or what holstein just said, that was next on the list :-)
[22:07] <macscam1> holstein no, unknown argument -config
[22:07] <holstein> macscam1: you can copy paste from above.. thats not the command
[22:08] <holstein> should be able to use auto complete, anyway, macscam1
[22:08] <holstein> macscam1: should be --config
[22:08] <ki7mt> macscam1, Try this, I jsut tested it on 14.04: sudo update-alternatives --config gnome-www-browser
[22:09] <heap_> holstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7702908/ , i think its fine
[22:09] <es> is there a way to open old Appleworks .cwk files?
[22:09] <holstein> es: just try it
[22:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ki7mt I cant mv the folder
[22:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont understand why not
[22:10] <holstein> ToAruShiroiNeko: ask a question.. "i cant mv the folder" is not a question
[22:10] <domsson> I get horrible flickering of GUI elements (mainly in the browser, but also gedit and basically everywhere...) when something "happens" on screen: scrolling (most notably), going through picture galleries on the web, moving a line of text up/down in gedit, ... - playing videos is without problems though. What could cause this?
[22:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I use sudo mv /var/www/magento-sample-data-1.9.0.0/* /var/www/
[22:11] <heap_> holstein: but this is snippet of apt-term.log  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7702911
[22:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> mv: cannot move ‘/var/www/magento-sample-data-1.9.0.0/media’ to ‘/var/www/media’: Directory not empty
[22:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> mv: cannot move ‘/var/www/magento-sample-data-1.9.0.0/skin’ to ‘/var/www/skin’: Directory not empty
[22:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> thats kind of the point. I want you to move the not empty folder -_-
[22:11] <macscam1> ki7mt thank you i changed the settings for x-www-browser and gnome-www-browser and opened a new terminal and tried the command, stil firefox though
[22:12] <ki7mt> macscam1, You may need to log out, then back in, if that's not working, something else is going on.
[22:12] <macscam1> ki7mt ok figured it out, turns out the program was hard-coded to run firefox
[22:12] <macscam1> thanks for the help
[22:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ki7mt why would I be encountering this problem?
[22:13] <ki7mt> ToAruShiroiNeko, mv -f to force it to move
[22:13] <Ben64> ToAruShiroiNeko: probably means you already have a /var/www/media with stuff in it and it might get overwritten
[22:13] <ki7mt> ToAruShiroiNeko, no idea why your getting that
[22:13] <solidus-river> my start stop deamon is not relinquishing control
[22:13] <solidus-river> its forever running
[22:13] <Bashing-om> Matml: Curiouser and curiouser .. lemme see what I can find for bug reports in Launchpad  !
[22:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Ben64 that is correct
[22:13] <Matml> Bashing-om: Ta!
[22:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> and that is the desired outcome
[22:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I want it to overwrite anything when relevant
[22:13] <holstein> ToAruShiroiNeko: then, just empty the destination
[22:14] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it is a merge
[22:14] <holstein> ToAruShiroiNeko: you are not asking that with the command you give
[22:14] <holstein> ToAruShiroiNeko: mv is not merge..
[22:14] <holstein> ToAruShiroiNeko: the mv force will overwrite, as well
[22:14] <ki7mt> +1 mv -f will do it, but nuke the existing folder
[22:15] <jeeves_moss> how do I install opengl for ruby?
[22:15] <holstein> regardless, id make a backup, if this is mission critical, then, consider a GUI if that makes it easier for you, ToAruShiroiNeko .. there is a grsync gui frontend to rsync..
[22:16] <bekks> jeeves_moss: sudo apt-get install ruby-opengl
[22:17] <doobie_pie> mpv won't play dvd movies. what codec does it need installed?
[22:17] <holstein> !restricted
[22:17] <heap_> holstein: does it help?
[22:17] <holstein> heap_: does what help?
[22:18] <Ben64> heap_: looks like you have mixed repositories, saucy and trusty. that isn't good
[22:19] <heap_> holstein: pastebins
[22:19] <mikeg31> Is there any way to get to a commandline when the Ubuntu 14.04 CD starts?  The USB mouse keeps freezing…can't use it in Live mode or install.
[22:19] <heap_> Ben64: well before upgrade it was everyting saucy i think
[22:19] <holstein> heap_: as Ben64 states, you have mixed sources
[22:19] <Ben64> heap_: yeah things are usually saucy on saucy...
[22:20] <maddawg2> mikeg31 have you tried ctrl+alt+t
[22:20] <ToAruShiroiNeko> holstein its the defauult magento files
[22:20] <ToAruShiroiNeko> its a test server
[22:20] <holstein> heap_: i know, i would want to backup my data, regardless.. then, i would personally just fresh install, since, repairing that partitially upgraded system is a pain, and i may still not trust it..
[22:20] <ToAruShiroiNeko> nothing is too important
[22:20] <heap_> yeah there is some mix right now shit ;
[22:21] <heap_> ;/
[22:21] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am trying to overwrite the blank magento library with the sample data
[22:21] <ToAruShiroiNeko> which should overwrite most files
[22:21] <holstein> !language | heap_
[22:21] <maddawg2> magneto?'
[22:21] <maddawg2> he's my favorite
[22:21] <Ben64> ToAruShiroiNeko: then use rsync to merge
[22:21] <ToAruShiroiNeko> okay
[22:21] <ToAruShiroiNeko> which options should I use?
[22:22] <bekks> ToAruShiroiNeko: Why dont you just copy the files and remove the source then?
[22:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> oh
[22:22] <bekks> Would have saved you hours, I guess.
[22:22] <Ben64> i'd do "rsync -avP /path/to/source /path/to/destination"
[22:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko> -_-
[22:23] <ki7mt> ToAruShiroiNeko, or cp -Ru if you only want updated files
[22:23] <doobie_pie> does touchscreen work automatically on a tablet that you install?
[22:23] <es> i asked, nothing I'vetried yet will open Apple's ancient Word clone's files holstein I did before
[22:23] <bekks> Or rsync -av ...
[22:23] <doobie_pie> in ubuntu 14.04
[22:24] <holstein> es: ok.. i would ask apple for a way to use them..
[22:24] <heap_> holstein: i dont know, before upgrade it couldnt be mixed. i can take a look into backup hows apt.source looked like.
[22:24] <Bashing-om> Matml: Curiouser and curiouser .. lemme see what I can find for bug reports in Launchpad  !
[22:24] <holstein> heap_: im talking about a backup of data..
[22:24] <heap_> holstein: question is why the log is full of that errors and when i did apt-get dist-upgrade no errors are reported now.
[22:25] <heap_> holstein: i dont have time for that and i thought there was tested upgrade from 10.03 to 14.04
[22:25] <es> holstein they'd say buy a mac and keynote
[22:26] <holstein> es: if thats the agreement you have, you may want to do so, or borrow and convert
[22:27] <ki7mt> es, whats that's the file type you need converting?
[22:27] <holstein> heap_: this is not breakage, friend.. you interrupted the upgrade.. thats not good..
[22:27] <es>  ki7mt .cwk
[22:27] <heap_> holstein: but interupted how?
[22:27] <bekks> es: thats a file extension, not a "type of files".
[22:27] <heap_> holstein: before upgrade i did dist-upgrade, everything works smoothly
[22:27] <bekks> es: file extension actually mean nothing at all
[22:28] <holstein> heap_: you stated you interrupted it..
[22:28] <heap_> holstein: it was interupted by itself :)
[22:28] <heap_> holstein: i can upload whole log from apt-term
[22:29] <es> bekks Appleworks = Apple's old Word clone killed off about 2005, old Mac is dead
[22:29] <holstein> heap_: interrupted is bad..
[22:29] <ki7mt> es, wow, lots of hits on this one, this thread has several ways using Libreoffice: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2667
[22:30] <GhostChili> Hi all, first of all thanks in advance, i'm trying to install Skeltrack-Desktop-Control, a program to use kinect (the old one for xbox 360) as pc controller, i follow the install steps written here → http://tayyabnaseer.blogspot.it/2012/05/installing-skeltrack-on-ubuntu.html ← some troule installing it but fixed till the last steps , after {  ./configure --enable-examples=yes } i do the command { make } that give me an error ( /usr/bin/ld: cannot
[22:30] <GhostChili>  find /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/: File format not recognized ) . i'm using a Xubuntu 14.04 32bit on a Dell XPS m1730 . here the output of the { make } command http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7702589/ . Someone can  help me?
[22:30] <ki7mt> es, sri Says to use Oenoffice, but should work in Libreoffice
[22:30] <heap_> holstein: i know but ... wasnt my fault.
[22:30] <holstein> heap_: i didnt say it was
[22:31] <heap_> holstein: i thought that those upgrades are tested before released into production
[22:31] <holstein> heap_: i personally tested many, friend..
[22:31] <icesword> hello?
[22:31] <maddawg2> goodbye
[22:31] <heap_> i never had ubuntu distro upgrade w/out problems, crashes, no boot, etc
[22:31] <doobie_pie> do you know how to boot ubuntu on live sd card from android tablet? to get into the boot screen on it
[22:31] <holstein> heap_: im not saying it was your fault.. and it really doenst matter fault.
[22:31] <ki7mt> heap_, they are tested, LTS to the next release, then and / or LTS to LTS
[22:31] <icesword> can anyone highlight my name?
[22:31] <holstein> heap_: i always prefer and suggest fresh installs
[22:31] <holstein> icesword: yes
 ummm yes
[22:32] <es> ki7mt thanks
[22:32] <heap_> hm strange like i said i did 10.3 to 14.04 and u see... crashed. but system booted.
[22:32] <holstein> heap_: 10.04?
[22:32] <Ben64> 10.3?
[22:32] <maddawg2> shouldnt you upgrade in stages?
[22:32] <heap_> holstein: eerr 14.04
[22:32] <maddawg2> not directly to the latest version but to the next release and so on so fourth
[22:33] <heap_> holstein: but fresh install is pain... imageine macos do that this way..
[22:33] <holstein> heap_: i understand you must be frustrated.. but, right now, i would want to backup my data.. and try repairing, and consider just a fresh install of 14.04, since that may be the simplest "Fix"
[22:33] <bekks> maddawg2: For LTS, you can directly to the next LTS release, when xx.yy.1 is released.
[22:33] <Ben64> heap_: upgrades almost always fail because of non standard repositories
[22:33] <heap_> holstein: hold on, ill up some log.
[22:33] <heap_> Ben64: yeah
[22:33] <holstein> heap_: you can backup whatever you like, and should have backups, since that hard drive will fail, regardless
[22:33] <heap_> Ben64: maybe i crushed something before
[22:34] <heap_> holstein: have backups by backuppc :) of /
[22:35] <holstein> heap_: is that a question for me? if so, please clarify
[22:38] <heap_> holstein: i meant i have backup done by backuppc of /
[22:42] <Dave77> can anybody suggest any other DVB TV apps for linux? had a look at ones suggested and they don't support DVB-S2, or haven't been updated in 10 years or have no maintainer
[22:42] <heap_> holstein: Ben64 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ytidf80dnleyo1o/apt-term.log
[22:42] <heap_> here is the full log, what happened. do i really have to reainstall whole system?:(
[22:42] <aledzadza> im trying to install monitorix and i get this error http://pastebin.com/DNbthE67
[22:43] <aledzadza> please help me :(
[22:43] <GhostChili> Hi all, first of all thanks in advance, i'm trying to install Skeltrack-Desktop-Control, a program to use kinect (the old one for xbox 360) as pc controller, i follow the install steps written here → http://tayyabnaseer.blogspot.it/2012/05/installing-skeltrack-on-ubuntu.html ← some troule installing it but fixed till the last steps , after {  ./configure --enable-examples=yes } i do the command { make } that give me an error ( /usr/bin/ld: cannot
[22:43] <GhostChili>  find /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/: File format not recognized ) . i'm using a Xubuntu 14.04 32bit on a Dell XPS m1730 . here the output of the { make } command → http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7702589/ ← Someone can  help me?
[22:45] <Ben64> GhostChili: you should seek support with whoever makes the program
[22:45] <aledzadza> lots or problems here =D
[22:45] <aledzadza> pf*
[22:45] <aledzadza> i guess im one of them hahah
[22:46] <GhostChili> Ben64: Ok, Thk
[22:46] <Matml> Bashing-om: Any luck?
[22:49] <heap_> holstein: Ben64 here is http://paste.ubuntu.com/7703050/ sources.list while doing distro upgrade. everything is saucy except last two at the bottom lastfm and slimdevices
[22:53] <kastan> whats up community i just downloaded virtual box to run windows and it is running perfectly except the Internet is very slow and when i go full screen the virtual box window stays the same size does anyone know how to fix so problems?
[22:53] <bekks> kastan: Install the gueest additions.
[22:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I atempted sudo rsync /var/magento-sample-data-1.9.0.0 /var/www/
[22:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> but it skips magento-sample-data-1.9.0.0
[22:53] <ToAruShiroiNeko> why would it do that
[22:54] <kastan> do i install it from ubuntu software center
[22:54] <bekks> ToAruShiroiNeko: because you did not use -a which implies -r which means recursion.
[22:55] <^v> halp, Xorg looks like its leaking memory
[22:55] <kastan> after you install guest additions do i mount the iso and than what/
[22:55] <heap_> holstein: around?
[22:56] <^v> is taking 1.1GB
[22:56] <^v> ive seen it go to 1.6
[22:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> bekks so sudo rsync -a /var/magento-sample-data-1.9.0.0 /var/www/
[22:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> right?
[22:56] <bekks> ToAruShiroiNeko: yes.
[22:56] <Beldar> kastan, Mount than run from windows computer link, be sure to add yourself to the vbox in the host if it is linux.
[22:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it doesnt seem tod o anything
[22:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> cp doesnt work either
[22:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I cannot believe I spent 3 hours trying to move a group of files from one directory to another
[22:57] <Ben64> ToAruShiroiNeko: you should look at man pages for correct syntax and options
[22:58] <heap_> or Ben64 any idea?
[22:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> what do you think I have been doing int he past 3 hours? :p
[22:58] <Ben64> ToAruShiroiNeko: what *exactly* are you trying to do
[22:58] <heap_> based on the log*
[22:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> \I get errros no matter what I do
[22:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> okay
[22:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I have two files
[22:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> one has default magento files
[22:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> other has sample data
[22:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I need to overwrite the default magento files with the sample data files
[22:58] <Ben64> ToAruShiroiNeko: can you do this without using 20 lines of text? just very simply tell me what you want
[22:58] <OerHeks>  ToAruShiroiNeko /var/magento-sample-data-1.9.0.0 >> /var/www/magento-sample-data-1.9.0.0
[22:58] <OerHeks> just a typo
[22:59] <ToAruShiroiNeko> probably /var/magento-sample-data-1.9.0.0 >> /var/www/
[22:59] <Ben64> then "mv /var/magento-sample-data-1.9.0.0 /var/www/"
[22:59] <Ben64> but i bet thats not what you really want
[23:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> mv: cannot move ‘/var/magento-sample-data-1.9.0.0’ to ‘/var/www/magento-sample-data-1.9.0.0’: Directory not empty
[23:00] <Ben64> let me know when you figure it out and i'll help you
[23:00] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I have figured out what I need to do exactly
[23:00] <Ben64> then say it
[23:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I explained
[23:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> let me explain again
[23:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I want to move all files and folders in /var/magento-sample-data-1.9.0.0 to /var/www/
[23:01] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it should overwrite /var/www/ if relevant but shouldnt delete anything if it cant overwrite
[23:01] <ki7mt> sudo cp -Ru /var/magento-sample-data-1.9.0.0/* /var/www/
[23:02] <Ben64> so you want everything that is *inside* of /var/magento-sample-data-1.9.0.0 to be in /var/www ?
[23:02] <ToAruShiroiNeko> in windows this would be a cut and paste
[23:02] <Ben64> you're making it so much more difficult than it needs to be
[23:04] <heap_> Ben64: pls any idea?
[23:04] <Ben64> heap_: why you keep pinging me : /
[23:04] <heap_> just need to be sure if i have to really trash this installation or if i can run it.
[23:04] <heap_> Ben64: :> cuz u were partly in this upgrade conversation.
[23:05] <Ben64> try fixing your sources and updating and dist-upgrading
[23:05] <Ben64> if that doesn't work, then it's broken forever
[23:05] <heap_> Ben64: when i did everyhing looks fine.
[23:05] <heap_> no errors anymore
[23:05] <Ben64> pastebin "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" then
[23:06] <phroa> this might be a text wall and I'm not even sure this is the best place to ask. If not, sorry. I'm going through the install process for OpenChange and after compiling and installing Samba it would appear everything is in order... except samba-tool isn't a program that exists. samba seems to be relatively installed where it should be according to the install steps. I'm pretty certain I did
[23:06] <phroa> everything to the letter in the install guide
[23:07] <phroa> what more information can I provide?
[23:08] <heap_> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7702908/
[23:08] <Ben64> heap_: you still have saucy there
[23:08] <OerHeks> !info samba-tools | phroa, sounds like a typo
[23:08] <OerHeks> oh
[23:08] <heap_> Ben64: it was before i removed it... but when i removed and did apt-get output is the same. no errors.
[23:09] <phroa> I built it
[23:09] <causative> what kind of problems should I expect if I use iptables and networkmanager together?  the iptables tutorial warns there might be conflicts
[23:09] <heap_> Ben64: just tired to do another pastebin.
[23:09] <OerHeks> !infosamba-tools precise
[23:09] <OerHeks> !info samba-tools precise
[23:10] <OerHeks> mot sure why they are removed in trusty
[23:10] <phroa> this is some special version or something. I'm not perfectly sure, all I know is that I compiled it
[23:10] <kastan> i am having problems finding the guest addition iso file to mount in virtual box any ideas on were it might be located i check opt
[23:10] <Bashing-om> Matml: No luck to this time. Domestic issue taking my attention at this time. still concerned that you have an old version of python3-uno installed and not able to update to what is current. I will be back later.
[23:10] <^v> :/
[23:11] <^v> no help?
[23:11] <Matml> Bashing-om: Ok, thanks for your help, if I'm not around later I'll be back tomorrow!
[23:11] <Matml> silly python!
[23:11] <Ben64> kastan: theres an option in vbox to install it
[23:12] <bell73> i need help with my laptop
[23:13] <kastan> Ben64 yeah but it didnt do anything
[23:13] <ki7mt> kastan, I think, if I remember, it installs it to /media/<username>
[23:14] <ki7mt> by installs, I mean puts the scripts there.
[23:14] <kastan> Ben64 sorry it says insert not install
[23:14] <Matml> Anyone else have any ideas about an error in the terminal saying "failed to import the site module"?
[23:14] <Ben64> kastan: you have to install it on the guest
[23:15] <ToAruShiroiNeko> in windows this would be a cut and paste task
[23:15] <Ben64> ToAruShiroiNeko: yes you mentioned that. it's very simple in linux as well, but still requires you to know what you want
[23:15] <ki7mt> In Windows, you have to pay for the OS and buy Anti-Virus SW too :-)
[23:15] <ToAruShiroiNeko> isnt it obvious?
[23:15] <ToAruShiroiNeko> sure linux is great
[23:15] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am strugling with it
[23:15] <Ben64> ToAruShiroiNeko: i asked you 15 minutes ago to explain exactly what you wanted and you couldn't
[23:16] <kastan> Ben64 thats were im getting lost im confused by what you mean by guest
[23:16] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I have explained it to you 3 times
[23:16] <Ben64> kastan: guest = the virtual machine
[23:16] <Ben64> ToAruShiroiNeko: 0 times actually
[23:16] <aledzadza> im trying to install monitorix and i get this error http://pastebin.com/DNbthE67
[23:16] <ToAruShiroiNeko> files and directories in directory a to directory b
[23:16] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I cannot explain it simpler
[23:16] <Ben64> ToAruShiroiNeko: "mv a b"
[23:16] <ki7mt> I pasted the cp command he needed to use.
[23:16] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I think that one worked
[23:16] <kastan> Ben64 Oh thank you!
[23:16] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am trying to verify
[23:17] <ToAruShiroiNeko> for whatever the reason everything crashed
[23:18] <export> ToAruShiroiNeko: what crashed? O.o
[23:19] <crontab> Does Ubuntu have /etc/mail disabled by default?
[23:19] <ki7mt> aledzadza, did you do that the message said after: E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[23:19] <Matml> Maybe I'll just use my laptop as a paperweight :)
[23:20] <ki7mt> .. do what the message said .. ..
[23:21] <ki7mt> Matml, Python can be a pain, especially with package comparability & multi-python installs.
[23:21] <Matml> ki7mt: Odd thing is I haven't done anything like that... I'm not sure it is a problem with python, just what googling suggests.
[23:22] <kastan> hmmm do i make a new virtual machine with the guest addition or?
[23:22] <ki7mt> Matml, maybe I missunderstoon, but your installing python3-uno or something python3 yes?
[23:22] <kastan> figured it out! thank you all
[23:23] <Matml> ki7mt: Just normal updates... that one is coming back as failing.
[23:23] <Matml> ki7mt: But there are lots of things that aren't working at the moment, all with the same error message "Failed to import the site module"
[23:24] <ki7mt> Matml, if all else fails, file a Bug report and get the maintainers to look into it.
[23:24] <Matml> ki7mt: I think it's a broader problem than that package.
[23:25] <ki7mt> Matml, probably so, but that's what you have to start with, and help them work back from there.
[23:26] <Matml> ki7mt: I might have to, I'm a bit out of my depth in terms of ubuntu knowledge
[23:26] <ki7mt> Matml, other channels to try is -motu, -bugsquad, -devel, they deal with those issues allot.
[23:27] <Matml> ki7mt: Thanks.
[23:27] <ki7mt> Matml, I issues with Numpy and F2PY, so I feel your pain, but I've not see that particular error.
[23:29] <crontab> What shoud I do to get mail that is sent to root@localhost by one of my programs?
[23:30] <phroa> not send the mail to root?
[23:30] <Lunario> Is there anybody here who made experiences installing ubuntu (or fedora as an alternative) on a 64 bit machine that uses UEFI to boot?
[23:30] <crontab> phroa: how would I get the mail then?
[23:30] <phroa> send it to a normal user?
[23:31] <Ben64> !uefi | Lunario
[23:31] <Lunario> Because my new notebook has Windows 8.1 with UEFI preinstalled, but I want to use both Win and Ubuntu like before. However the UEFI boot mode causes problems from what I have read
[23:31] <crontab> phroa: but I have no /etc/mail directory
[23:31] <ki7mt> Lunario, there are lots folks that know the UEFI setup, just ask your question(s)
[23:31] <phroa> I think it's /var/mail/<username>
[23:31] <phroa> could be wrong
[23:31] <Dave77> are there any GUI apps on ubuntu to explore contents of ISO?
[23:31] <crontab> phroa: thanks, what is the command to check the mail?
[23:32] <Lunario> Well, basically, I have already read many threads about UEFI on the forum and on other sites, but there were so many different explanations depending on hardware, OS etc... so my basic concern is:
[23:32] <phroa> either use something like `more` or, install something like pine, mutt, or mail. I don't think any are preinstalled afaik
[23:32] <Lunario> what if something goes wrong? Will I not be able to boot Windows anymore either?
[23:32] <crontab> phroa: should I install mailutils?
[23:32] <phroa> Lunario: backups :)
[23:33] <phroa> oh, maybe
[23:33] <Lunario> That's my main concern. Not because I am a Windows fan (haven't used it for years) but because I need it for my partner who uses Windows on this machine
[23:33] <phroa> I don't quite know much about those packages
[23:35] <Matml> Lunario: I had no problems with my laptop, dual booting windows 8 and Ubuntu
[23:35] <Lunario> well I do have backups, but it's not exactly a nice perspective not knowing whether the entire bios config is going to be messed up just because of a second OS installation, which always worked fine so far (under non-UEFI systems)
[23:35] <Lunario> May I ask what laptop you are using?
[23:35] <Lunario> Mine is a MSI GP60 2PE
[23:35] <VinceN> Good Afternoon all, I was wondering if someone could offer some help with an OpenVPN server running on Ubuntu 12.04, specifcally I can't seem to figure out how to configure Ubuntu to properly router traffic to the internet from the OpenVPN interface so connected clients can tunnel to the internet through the VPN
[23:36] <ki7mt> Lunario, honestly, had same thing with my kids, until the Windows cruch is removed (gone or not available), they kept going back, cold turkey switching is best I think unless you have a mission critical Windows apps that's need and not available in Linux.
[23:36] <crontab> ls
[23:36] <Matml> Lunario: An ASUS S200E
[23:38] <Lunario> ki7mt: it's mainly games he needs/wants to play on it, which simply dont run on Linux
[23:39] <ki7mt> Lunario, found that battle too, and lost of a few font, but yeah, gaming is not 100% yet, but it will be someday.
[23:39] <ki7mt> fought that battle
[23:39] <skinux> Has there ever been an idea to integrate calendar applet with an online calendar service (e.g. GMail, Hotmail, Zoho, etc.)?
[23:39] <Lunario> hopefully, ki7mt :)
[23:40] <Lunario> but anyway, as long as that is not the case, the problem of needing to dual boot still exists on my machine
[23:43] <skinux> part
[23:58] <kastan> would dual booting my computer make it run slower than it already does?
[23:58] <daftykins> no
[23:58] <phroa> shouldn't
[23:58] <kastan> ok cool
[23:58] <daftykins> kastan: what's it running now on what spec, and what's slow?
[23:59] <jareddlc> hey guys quick ntp question
[23:59] <jareddlc> if i install ntp and set a config file with 2 servers
[23:59] <jareddlc> how often does it update?