[00:30] <EleanorEllis> How do I install fonts in Ubuntu Studio 14.04?
[00:36] <holstein> EleanorEllis: same as in xfce, xubuntu, or main ubuntu really what are you looking for?
[00:37] <holstein> EleanorEllis: you can see "manually installing fonts" here, which looks like how i would do it and have done it http://sourcedigit.com/9735-install-fonts-linux-ubuntu-14-04/
[00:42] <EleanorEllis> holstein: On a hunch I looked in Synaptic and discovered that Font-manager is actually installed. It just doesn't seem to show in the menu. But it can be called from the command line
[00:49] <EleanorEllis> holstein: I just found that font manager is also in the publishing menu#
[00:50] <holstein> or, you can do it manually.. or,just add fonts in your users /home..
[04:25] <cyborg_> i need help wit usb midi drivers can someone help?
[04:25] <holstein> cyborg_: no.. you need help with linux suppot on that specific hardware. its not a midi device that you are trying to use in linux
[04:26] <holstein> support*
[04:26] <holstein> cyborg_: you have an entire PC.. that you are trying to run linux on.. have you contacted the mailing list? or a larger channel?
[04:27] <cyborg_> i have and no response.
[04:28] <holstein> cyborg_: you'l have to wait.. when i go to bed here in a minute, and back to work, this channel can be quite dead
[04:28] <cyborg_> i am not having an issue with the device and not the computer just with the way in which linux addresses the device
[04:28] <holstein> cyborg_: i would go to the general ubuntu mailing list..
[04:29] <holstein> cyborg_: linux is not given support to address the machine
[04:29] <cyborg_> please stop thinking it is a proprietory machine it is just a computer with linux installed
[04:30] <cyborg_> fresh install at that
[04:30] <holstein> cyborg_: oh.. im not thinking that, at all.. it *is* a proprietary machine that has not promise of linux support
[04:31] <holstein> cyborg_: thats why its not working "out of the box". the maufacturers have not supplied the linux kernel developers with data to add in so that it would just get supported out of the box.. they are likely not interested in supporting linux like that
[04:31] <holstein> cyborg_: i would join the main ubuntu development list and try and find someone who maybe works with embedded systems
[04:33] <holstein> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel for example
[04:33] <holstein> this channel is about ubuntustuduio support, and quite slow... its not really about larger hardware support like that
[04:34] <holstein> cyborg_: do try and be clear, though.. you are stating the question as if you have a midi use device that is not working in ubuntustudio, which is far from the case
[04:34] <holstein> midi USB
[04:40] <cyborg_> no that is pretty much exactly the case.  but the approach should be find a way to load a driver for the device and then develope one from there
[04:41] <holstein> cyborg_: its not, friend.. you do *not* have a usb device sitting there, and plugging it into a machine running ubuntu
[04:41] <holstein> cyborg_: you have an entire os with integrated devices that are not working.. that you want to provide support for
[04:42] <holstein> cyborg_: its not to "Find a way to load a driver", you have to go way further down than that.. the manufacturer doesnt give you a driver, so you can just load it. you have to identify what that hardware can be used as, and get help on that level
[06:31] <cyborg_> okay can someone help me with assigning a driver to a usb device that is intended to be a midi controller but may be looked at as a HID device in ubuntu
[08:38] <kostex> hello experts!  I've searched the net.. nothing useful.. so: I want to get rid of the xcfe session save feature.. What I did now is added 'rm /home/xxx/.cache/sessions/*' to rc.local   This is a 'brute force' method.. Is there a better way? Or just leave it like this?
[09:33] <coelebs> iirc there was a box to uncheck
[09:33] <coelebs> but i'm not on my ubuntu box right now
[09:33] <coelebs> or was it per program...
[13:07]  * krokus is away (Linux is culture.)
[13:33] <cyborg_> can someone help me with assigning a driver to a usb device that is intended to be a midi controller but may be looked at as a HID device in ubuntu
[15:28] <holstein> cyborg_: i suggest mentioning that its a standalone PC.. and i would go to the ubuntu devel mailing list..
[15:49] <zequence> cyborg_: There's no reason why it can't be both, I think, but if there aren't drivers for it, someone will need to write some.
[15:52] <zequence> cyborg_: ..or package some firmware
[15:53] <holstein> ideally, the manufacturer, of the device.. if you dont mind saying, zequence
[15:53] <zequence> http://alsa.opensrc.org/USBMidiDevices
[15:53] <holstein> zequence: i seem to have a challenging communicating what i mean by that
[15:53] <holstein> challenge*
[15:53] <zequence> Well, we don't write drivers anyhow :P
[15:53] <zequence> Not me, anyway
[15:54] <holstein> zequence: im just having an issue communicating with cyborg_ about this..
[15:55] <holstein> cyborg_ has stated that linux is running on the device, and windows works, so linux should work.. but, the drivers are not there, as you are saying..
[15:55] <zequence> Well, depends of course if he installed any drivers on Windows
[15:56] <zequence> ..which happens automatically nowadays for some devices, I think
[16:42] <cyborg_> it is just a computer.
[16:43] <cyborg_> pads faders and other inputs are Midi controllers
[16:43] <zequence> I don't get it. Is the PC the midi controller, or you want a midi controller to work with a PC?
[16:43] <holstein> its a PC
[16:43] <zequence> What is?
[16:43] <holstein> the controls are integrated
[16:43] <holstein> the dbeat from openlabs.. the device in question
[16:48] <zequence> Ah, it came with a specially configured Windows OS
[16:49] <holstein> afaik, it ships with windows.. i asked cyborg_ if it came with windows to see if the hardware was functioning properly.. cyborg_ stated he had seen, first hand, the device running properly in windows before his friend gave it to him.. or sold
[16:49] <zequence> cyborg_: If the buttons on that thing are functional as HID devices, then you can use something to translate that into MIDI, like puredata
[17:03] <cyborg_> zequence, thanks that is closer to what i am looking for
[17:05] <cyborg_> the pressure sensitive pads are the ones that i really want to work and the faders.  would be nice to get everything talking to and from apps
[17:06] <holstein> cyborg_: so, fire up puredata and translate the midi data, or share with zequence what you have done that makes that not possible..
[17:21] <zequence> cyborg_: Might be a bit of trouble getting the hid library to work on puredata
[17:22] <zequence> I haven't dealt with it much. But, if you want to learn how to do it, first look up how to use puredata. Then, ask around on #dataflow, or on the pure data mail list on how to get hid to work
[17:23] <zequence> puredata, to clarify, is a programming language, but it's graphical and fairly easy to use, especially for midi
[17:24] <zequence> The package for puredata is "puredata", and hid is "pd-hid"
[17:24] <zequence> There's also pd-extended, in a PPA. At ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
[17:24] <zequence> ..which looks prettier and includes all the libs
[17:24] <zequence> If you are serious about that alternative, start here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtgGol-I4gA
[19:50]  * krokus is away (Linux is culture.)