lordievader | Good morning. | 05:47 |
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Riddell | hola chicos | 08:21 |
shadeslayer | hey ho | 08:37 |
Riddell | such a beautiful horizon | 08:38 |
shadeslayer | heh :p | 08:40 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: mind doing this test http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/317/builds/70677/testcases/1301/results | 08:50 |
shadeslayer | I can never get it to work in vbox :/ | 08:50 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: btw since we're not shipping the nepomuk KCM, do you think we should remove the part of the workspace QA form that says "Nepomuk Disabled" | 09:27 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: on google docs? | 09:28 |
shadeslayer | yeah | 09:28 |
apachelogger | not worth recycling for this cycle IMO | 09:28 |
apachelogger | should ditch it | 09:28 |
shadeslayer | why? | 09:28 |
apachelogger | overhead was to big | 09:28 |
apachelogger | have to go through all sheets and look at the data | 09:29 |
apachelogger | really cumbersome | 09:29 |
apachelogger | also unless we reset the data when a new version lands it gets confusing | 09:29 |
apachelogger | also reseting the data requires manually hopping through the sheets | 09:29 |
apachelogger | too much work for non-lts releases if you ask me | 09:29 |
apachelogger | oh and in general I'd not spend much time on QA for stable kubuntu | 09:30 |
apachelogger | if something breaks it's likely not our fault anyway | 09:30 |
shadeslayer | this is most interesting | 09:49 |
shadeslayer | yofel: somehow kajongg depends on kdegames-data >= 4.13.2 | 09:49 |
yofel | shadeslayer: can you please fix that? I think it's some substitution that needs fixing | 09:50 |
shadeslayer | libqt4-sql-sqlite (>= 4.6), kdegames-mahjongg-data, vorbis-tools, kdegames-data (>= ${source:Upstream-Version}) | 09:51 |
shadeslayer | ahhh | 09:51 |
shadeslayer | that makes sense | 09:51 |
Riddell | kubotu: newversion massif-visualiser 0.4beta | 09:53 |
kubotu | Package massif-visualiser doesn't exist yet! | 09:53 |
Riddell | kubotu: newversion kgraphviewer 2.2beta | 09:53 |
kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1334587 | 09:53 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: IIRC there's something blocking kgraphviewer | 09:53 |
shadeslayer | eigen or sth | 09:54 |
shadeslayer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kgraphviewer/+bug/1244261 | 09:54 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1244261 in massif-visualizer (Ubuntu) "kgraphviewer needs porting from libgraph to libcgraph (remove binaries for now)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 09:54 |
shadeslayer | cgraph | 09:54 |
Riddell | should be fixed now | 09:55 |
Riddell | the cgraph patch was inluded in this release | 09:55 |
shadeslayer | aha cool | 09:55 |
shadeslayer | I don't suppose anyone knows where I can find the various subst vars that can be passed into debian/control | 09:59 |
BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 10:20 |
Riddell | kubotu: newversion plasma-mediacenter 1.3 | 10:21 |
kubotu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1334595 | 10:21 |
shadeslayer | yofel: I'll just drop the versioning for now | 10:28 |
shadeslayer | too many changes required to figure out latest version of kdegames-data | 10:28 |
shadeslayer | plus it's gone as a dep from kajongg in utopic anyway | 10:28 |
Riddell | groovy, alpha 1 good enough to ship | 10:42 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: are there any release notes? | 10:42 |
shadeslayer | oh | 10:43 |
shadeslayer | so that's what I was missing yesterday | 10:43 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: I don't know where to put the release announcement with our new wiki | 10:43 |
Riddell | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/Alpha1/Kubuntu is traditional | 10:44 |
Riddell | but not very elegant | 10:44 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: I'd say go with wiki.ubuntu for now | 10:45 |
apachelogger | Riddell: put it on ubuntu wiki... as dicussed earlier these shoudl eventually get done entirely on the new website | 10:45 |
shadeslayer | and we can make a nice page next time | 10:45 |
apachelogger | wikis are much rubbish for sweet editing really | 10:45 |
* Riddell makes it sew | 10:45 | |
apachelogger | talking about website | 10:46 |
apachelogger | ovidiu-florin, jose: what's the state of the website | 10:46 |
Riddell | needs the server to recover for one thing :( | 10:46 |
apachelogger | yofel: what's the state of the server | 10:47 |
yofel | apachelogger: you'll have to ask Riddell | 10:47 |
apachelogger | Riddell: what's the state of the server | 10:47 |
shadeslayer | yay, I can do git clone bzr::lp:whatever | 10:48 |
shadeslayer | no more fiddling with bzr | 10:48 |
yofel | oh sweet :D | 10:48 |
shadeslayer | yeah | 10:48 |
yofel | any special setup for that? | 10:48 |
shadeslayer | nope, just install git-bzr | 10:48 |
yofel | yay | 10:49 |
Riddell | apachelogger: I need to fill in this form and e-mail hosteurope, very nearly at the top of my todo list | 10:49 |
apachelogger | reminds me of when people used git-svn and broke kdesvn every other day xD | 10:49 |
shadeslayer | yofel: even does pushes | 10:49 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: if everything is fine with the Kubuntu + Plasma 5 email, I'll send it later today | 10:49 |
apachelogger | yofel: what's with shared git repo for kf5? | 10:51 |
shadeslayer | ^^ | 10:51 |
* BluesKaj waits patiently for the alpha1 upgrades to hit the repos | 10:51 | |
shadeslayer | BluesKaj: probably tomorrow | 10:52 |
BluesKaj | shadeslayer, ok, like I said, I'm waiting patiently :) | 10:53 |
yofel | apachelogger: nothing so far, sune and maxy wouldn't mind it but wanted pino to comment, which he never did | 10:55 |
shadeslayer | much blocking that is | 10:57 |
jose | apachelogger: state is waiting to talk to ovidiu-florin | 11:10 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: http://192.168.1.33:8000/ | 11:11 |
Riddell | sweet | 11:12 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: do you want a picutre of the reboot thing as well? | 11:26 |
shadeslayer | yofel: http://imgur.com/zSGnz8J :3 | 11:30 |
yofel | hahaha | 11:30 |
shadeslayer | colored output ftw | 11:31 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: I guess not | 11:32 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: no that's fine | 11:33 |
shadeslayer | upgrade went fine | 11:34 |
Riddell | yay! | 11:34 |
Riddell | hola sgclark, bienos dias | 11:41 |
ScottK | shadeslayer: Did you look at my comments? | 11:43 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: I don't see any | 11:44 |
sgclark | Riddell: good morning :) | 11:44 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: eek your web server went away! | 11:45 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: oh, heh | 11:45 |
shadeslayer | moment | 11:45 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: same url | 11:45 |
ScottK | shadeslayer: This has been updated since I commented last. Let me read it again. | 11:47 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: cheers, I updated it after you commented, made some things more clear | 11:48 |
ScottK | shadeslayer: A couple of small comments. Looking pretty good now. | 11:49 |
sgclark | Riddell: any thoughts on why kde-baseapps and konsole in next believe that the 4:4.13.2 release is newer? | 11:56 |
apachelogger | konsole? Oo | 11:59 |
apachelogger | that's not in the release scope of plasma5.0 is it? | 11:59 |
apachelogger | neither is baseapps for that matter | 11:59 |
apachelogger | konsole (4.97.0~git20140623-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa1) utopic; urgency=low | 11:59 |
apachelogger | sgclark: that is effective version 0:4.97.0 vs. konsole effective version 4:4.13.2 | 12:00 |
apachelogger | sgclark: see epoch here https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version | 12:00 |
apachelogger | Riddell, sgclark: I don't think baseapps stuff should packaged | 12:01 |
sgclark | why not? | 12:03 |
apachelogger | because it has no release schedule | 12:03 |
sgclark | that is a good point, I guess not a good thing to throw out to the public, but maybe an experimental next? lol | 12:06 |
apachelogger | yeah | 12:06 |
apachelogger | well | 12:06 |
apachelogger | for now we have neon | 12:06 |
apachelogger | once utopic is released we might want to do an experimental next ppa if necessary | 12:07 |
apachelogger | until then stuff can be put into next | 12:07 |
apachelogger | the problem with baseapps is that it has no upstream pre-release at all, so putting it in next doesn't do much good | 12:07 |
sgclark | not to mention it is only half done, aka missing konquorer etc | 12:08 |
apachelogger | *nod* | 12:08 |
sgclark | but it would be kinda cool to have that stuff somewhere for daredevils that want the greatest and latest, but not as important as the greater for all stability. | 12:10 |
yofel | neon? ^^ | 12:10 |
sgclark | yeah I did try that neon, that is really nice and achieves the above. Does neon have the frameworks build of these apps though? | 12:12 |
sgclark | I didn't think it did | 12:12 |
apachelogger | project-neon5-kde-baseapps | 12:19 |
apachelogger | project-neon5-konsole | 12:19 |
sgclark | ahh ok cool :) anyway I only did as I was asked. I will move on | 12:21 |
sgclark | update wants a reboot, be back shortly | 12:37 |
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Riddell | hola | 13:09 |
Riddell | sgclark, apachelogger: sure it should be packaged, but only for a known experimental PPA | 13:09 |
sgclark | I <3 packaging, so fine with me lol | 13:10 |
Riddell | sgclark: I don't think we should add a depend on qt5-default, people will still want the option of having qt4-default with plasma 5 e.g. if you're compiling kdelibs4 stuff | 13:10 |
Riddell | instead I guess it needs the full path to qdbus somewhere | 13:11 |
sgclark | Riddell: right, the QT_SELECT=5 qdbus worked fine to login, though it is said it is an issue with qtchooser | 13:11 |
Riddell | sgclark: you added QT_SELECT=5 somewhere? | 13:14 |
sgclark | Riddell: I added QT_SELECT=5 qdbus to my .bashrc file | 13:14 |
Riddell | and it all works fine after? | 13:14 |
sgclark | yup perfectly | 13:15 |
Riddell | ok so we can probably just add that to startkde | 13:15 |
sgclark | also, how , where would we put that nifty new wallpaper in ? | 13:15 |
alvin | I just did a fresh installation of Kubuntu, and it's probably time I report this bug. But where, or against what package? If you choose 'Belgium', some locales are set to German. | 13:16 |
alvin | Especially weird since I selected US English as language | 13:21 |
Riddell | sgclark: wallpaper? the plasma next one with triangles? | 13:28 |
Riddell | alvin: using 14.04? | 13:28 |
sgclark | Riddell: yeah that one, I can't find it | 13:28 |
alvin | Riddell: Yes, but I believe the bug was already there in 13.10 | 13:28 |
alvin | Didn't think much of it then. Changed the language in KDE. But I've installed Kubuntu now on a number of occasions, and it happens every time. Set country to Belgium, language to English, and some locales will be German. | 13:29 |
alvin | de_BE.UTF-8 to be exact | 13:29 |
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Riddell | sgclark: it's in breeze but maybe it wasn't in for 4.97 | 13:44 |
Riddell | alvin: it might be libkubuntu's fault | 13:45 |
Riddell | or it might be ubiquity | 13:45 |
apachelogger | more likely former | 13:45 |
shadeslayer | fwiw plasma 5 email away | 13:47 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: yay! | 13:48 |
sgclark | shadeslayer: were you going to take back sddm? if so feel free to nab any of my work from mine. I spent alot of time on copyright nd I know you are not a fan of copyright. Also a libexec patch that should go upstream if you use. | 13:49 |
shadeslayer | sgclark: yep | 13:49 |
shadeslayer | working on sanitizing sddm now | 13:49 |
shadeslayer | infact | 13:49 |
shadeslayer | I haz upstart script | 13:49 |
sgclark | ok cool | 13:49 |
shadeslayer | lets see if it works | 13:49 |
alvin | ok, Bug 1334675 opened | 13:54 |
ubottu | bug 1334675 in libkubuntu (Ubuntu) "Some locales are set to de_BE.UTF-8 when choosing Country 'Belgium' and language 'US English'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1334675 | 13:54 |
apachelogger | half those vars are not set by libkubuntu | 13:59 |
Riddell | how's this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/Alpha1/Kubuntu | 14:14 |
Riddell | proofreaders needed | 14:14 |
apachelogger | download column width is wrong | 14:16 |
apachelogger | pictures have all random sizes | 14:16 |
apachelogger | on that note if they are to continue having random sizes then the plasma1 pic needs to be aligned to the right | 14:17 |
apachelogger | lots of techno talk in general | 14:17 |
apachelogger | otherwise good I guess | 14:18 |
Riddell | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/Alpha1/Kubuntu updated with less techno speak | 14:34 |
apachelogger | much better | 14:37 |
apachelogger | column width is still broken :P | 14:37 |
apachelogger | Riddell: I conflictered with you | 14:39 |
apachelogger | but width is fixed now :P | 14:39 |
Riddell | apachelogger: thanks | 14:45 |
Riddell | yofel: ping | 14:51 |
Riddell | or another german speaker, ping | 14:51 |
apachelogger | yus? | 14:53 |
Riddell | apachelogger: what needs done with this? http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/Vertragsuebernahme-Vertragsuebergabe_eines_einzelnen_Produktes2.pdf | 14:53 |
Riddell | it's got forms in it you can edit in okular | 14:54 |
apachelogger | needs to be sent by FAX | 14:54 |
Riddell | yay | 14:54 |
Riddell | but does more of it need filled in? | 14:54 |
apachelogger | god that thing has pages | 14:55 |
apachelogger | first page, prevoius owner needs to sign bottom of the page | 14:57 |
apachelogger | Riddell: are we wiring money through germany? | 14:57 |
alvin | I'll follow up on that locale bug, but I'll have to install a test machine. In the meantime I've set everything to my liking using the KDE System settings, BUT there's a script that changes the locales for you and it created en_BE.UTF-8. Now that's something that does not exist, so apt throws errors when trying to install stuff. | 14:57 |
apachelogger | Riddell: if not scratch page 4 and add credit card details on page 3 | 14:58 |
apachelogger | where it says Kreditkartendaten (nur für Kunden außerhalb Deutschlands | 14:58 |
alvin | Now ALL locales (except LANGUAGE=en and LC_ALL=) are en_BE.UTF-8 | 14:59 |
apachelogger | Riddell: then bottom of page 3 first is your name in block capitals, second is signature, third is date | 14:59 |
apachelogger | Riddell: so, you need to fax page 2+3 and previous owner needs to fax page 1 | 15:00 |
apachelogger | other than credit card details everything seems to be in order | 15:00 |
Riddell | groovy | 15:01 |
apachelogger | Riddell: if we wire the money through germany account details for SEPA would go on page 4 | 15:01 |
Riddell | apachelogger: what is Gültigkeit ? | 15:02 |
apachelogger | validity | 15:03 |
apachelogger | Riddell: time until expiration of the card | 15:03 |
apachelogger | (reckon it's about the credit card) | 15:03 |
Riddell | yep | 15:04 |
Riddell | apachelogger: 0180 5 66 3233* | 15:05 |
Riddell | that becomes +49180 5 66 3233 ? | 15:05 |
apachelogger | Riddell: yes | 15:11 |
* apachelogger finds it outrages that a contract move costs 50 euros processing fee | 15:11 | |
apachelogger | alvin: en_BE is what you get when you configure en_BE | 15:13 |
apachelogger | arguably it doesn't make sense, however given the present UI it's hard to prevent that from happening | 15:13 |
alvin | apachelogger: Yes, I'm starting to think that the errors from apt have another reason. | 15:13 |
apachelogger | no | 15:13 |
apachelogger | en_BE is no valid locale | 15:13 |
alvin | LC_TYPE is not set and such | 15:13 |
alvin | Ah | 15:13 |
apachelogger | but you configured it | 15:13 |
apachelogger | so libkubuntu writes it | 15:13 |
apachelogger | what you need to do is configure your country to US or CA or AU or GB etc. | 15:14 |
alvin | I configured it in System Settings by setting Country to Belgium and Language to English. A valid combination. Well, it should be. | 15:14 |
apachelogger | yeah it should, except posix locale is shit :P | 15:15 |
alvin | Ah, but when setting the country to US some things are all wrong. Like 'Letter' instead of 'A4' | 15:15 |
apachelogger | yep, that's how posix locale work | 15:15 |
alvin | I justed wanted the English language (Not British. 'Wastebin' instead of 'Trash' is not something I get used too) | 15:16 |
alvin | It's not ideal. Can I set the KDE settings /without/ changing system locales? | 15:16 |
apachelogger | you can remove .kde/env/setlocale.sh | 15:17 |
apachelogger | your system will still be wrong then | 15:17 |
alvin | Ok, but that's fixable | 15:17 |
apachelogger | see, the problem is, if you configure country BE and language en in KDE you'll have A4 and stuff in KDE | 15:17 |
apachelogger | but all other applications will use Letter | 15:17 |
alvin | Yes, and 24hour format :-) | 15:18 |
apachelogger | because they don't care about what the KDE setting is | 15:18 |
apachelogger | that's why libkubuntu bends the KDE setting to the inferior posix locale version | 15:18 |
alvin | I can see that. | 15:18 |
apachelogger | otherwise system integration is incomplete | 15:18 |
alvin | So, there's no setting directly 'paper size = A4' with the standard POSIX stuff? | 15:19 |
apachelogger | nope | 15:19 |
alvin | Or some switch: adhere to ISO standards. Ok, I'm dreaming | 15:19 |
apachelogger | it's all locale bound | 15:19 |
alvin | I see. | 15:19 |
apachelogger | what you could do from a posix POV is define some of the LC_ variables to a locale that uses A4 | 15:20 |
apachelogger | not sure which one | 15:20 |
alvin | Well, in that case, it's only more work to set it up. I can live with that. You know, Windows gets that all wrong too. | 15:20 |
apachelogger | but you don't have fine grained control beyond that | 15:20 |
alvin | I'll look it up. | 15:20 |
apachelogger | alvin: posix is an ISO standard btw | 15:20 |
alvin | Heh, ok :-) | 15:20 |
alvin | Didn't know that. | 15:20 |
apachelogger | arguably the KDE way isn't all that smooth either | 15:21 |
apachelogger | e.g. in case of CA country doesn't actually define the format at all | 15:21 |
apachelogger | en_CA defaults to US formatting, while fr_CA defaults to FR formatting | 15:22 |
apachelogger | yet you cannot represent that in KDE clearly (short of having two distinct countries which is not the case and would not make sense) | 15:22 |
apachelogger | it's all a lot of shit regardless of the operating system | 15:23 |
alvin | Sounds like there's still some work in that area. I hope settings are shared between other desktop environments then? | 15:23 |
apachelogger | no | 15:23 |
apachelogger | that's what posix is there for | 15:23 |
apachelogger | except KDE chooses to not support that currently | 15:23 |
apachelogger | (in plasma5 there'll be much improvement in terms of configurability though \o/) | 15:24 |
alvin | Oh, that is fine to hear. I'm looking forward a lot to plasma5 | 15:24 |
BluesKaj | CA has 2 language choices since Canada is officially a biingual | 15:24 |
apachelogger | that's what I am saying | 15:24 |
apachelogger | but in KDE country dictates format | 15:24 |
alvin | Well, Belgium is trilingual, if you count the 10 Germans that live here. I know the problem. | 15:24 |
apachelogger | but in CA's case language defines formatting much more than country | 15:24 |
BluesKaj | hehe alvin :) | 15:25 |
apachelogger | so if you configure it_CA, what formatting do you get? english? french? italian? none? | 15:25 |
apachelogger | it's all much madness | 15:25 |
BluesKaj | I always choose English, there's the French Canada choice available if one wants it | 15:26 |
BluesKaj | a lot of Canadians just choose the US format for safety's sake | 15:27 |
alvin | lol, yes. That reminds me that I still have to file a bug for the holidays in the KDE calendar. These are in French by default when you set the country to Belgium, while it should look at the language. | 15:27 |
alvin | There's a choice between 'French', 'Dutch' and 'Walloon'. French = Walloon, and the 10 Germans are forgotten. | 15:29 |
Riddell | somehow I missed this, there's no 4.15 SC planned http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=140191565904116&w=2 | 15:55 |
sgclark | Riddell: I am now seeing the perils of qt5-default. kgraphviewer seems to be qt4 only. I have my utopic set up for frameworks qt5 packaging, how do I do both? | 16:00 |
Riddell | sgclark: just install qt4-default | 16:02 |
Riddell | all will be fine until you need to log in again :) | 16:02 |
sgclark | lol | 16:02 |
* sgclark sets up another chroot | 16:02 | |
yofel | wouldn't it work to just export QT_SELECT? | 16:04 |
yofel | for the build shell | 16:04 |
sgclark | oh hey that could work, thanks | 16:04 |
Riddell | ScottK: plasma 5 schedule decision http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2014-June/033065.html | 17:24 |
Riddell | in progress.. | 17:24 |
Riddell | I'm proposing having bugfix releases but opinion seems to be for just monthly releases for now because it's not advised that distros ship it as default | 17:24 |
sgclark | Riddell: kgraphviewer for trusty is ready, where do I put this? | 17:48 |
Riddell | sgclark: oh cool, do you have it for utopic too? | 17:53 |
sgclark | Riddell: not yet, should be relatively simple though now that the bulk work is done. | 17:53 |
Riddell | sgclark: check it all works in utopic then give to me to upload to utopic | 17:54 |
Riddell | and you can upload to kubuntu-ppa/backports | 17:54 |
Riddell | for trusty | 17:54 |
sgclark | Riddell: ok | 17:55 |
mcstr_ | hmmm any kubuntu user using the latest opera development build? | 18:01 |
Riddell | not I | 18:02 |
mcstr_ | i am giving it a try just now and it seems to be very fast :o | 18:03 |
Riddell | ahh, alas if only it was free software | 18:06 |
mcstr_ | hmmm... well isnt it free? i dont pay a single cent for it...... you sound like a fedora user :P | 18:07 |
sgclark | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~sgclark/+archive/kubuntu/+packages it is still waiting to build but I suspect you can still get the files? | 18:12 |
sgclark | Riddell: massif-visualizer depends on these. I have to make a quick trip to store and will work on that when I return. | 18:17 |
Riddell | mcstr_: most Linux distros only ship Free software | 18:20 |
mcstr_ | @riddell thats true but i am a bit more mainstream in this regard.... as long as its available and costs no money i find it ok to use it..... bein it the non-free codecs, software or whatever..... | 18:21 |
Riddell | yeah that's fine, we just can't ship it is all | 18:22 |
mcstr_ | no worries :) | 18:23 |
mcstr_ | i also like konqueror and rekonq esp. on kde4... not convinced of those in kde plasma next yet | 18:24 |
mcstr_ | have used mozilla firefox most of my time over the last years but opera now seems to be easier on ram and ressources in general | 18:24 |
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Riddell | alpha 1 is out! | 19:43 |
Riddell | santa_: you made kde-workspace break kde-style-skulpture last year saying "Add Breaks against kwin styles which wouldn't work with this latest kde-window-manager release" can you remember why it wouldn't work? | 19:45 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: I think that's why kde-workspace has not transitioned | 19:45 |
santa_ | Riddell: hi, I think there was an api change and that style was unmaintained | 19:47 |
Riddell | hmm, but it seems to compile | 19:47 |
Riddell | spoke I can but install them and see what happens | 19:47 |
santa_ | and does it work? | 19:48 |
Riddell | dunno need to test that now | 19:48 |
santa_ | http://packages.qa.debian.org/k/kde-style-skulpture/news/20120510T181231Z.html | 19:48 |
santa_ | indeed, it was unmaintained | 19:48 |
santa_ | I remember they were a few which didn't work and wasn't very feasible to fix them | 19:49 |
santa_ | I remember there was one which left the windows without decoration | 19:50 |
santa_ | which would be an ugly situation for an inexperienced user | 19:50 |
santa_ | so the solution was putting that breaks there, so the style would be uninstalled | 19:52 |
Riddell | ah then I'll just follow debian and remove it | 19:52 |
santa_ | but of course if you can make them work again, that breaks should be removed | 19:52 |
ovidiu-florin | Riddell: how's the server state? | 20:15 |
Riddell | ovidiu-florin: sent off form, e-mailed them, waiting for reply | 20:17 |
ovidiu-florin | ok, thanks | 20:17 |
shadeslayer | yofel: we might want to shut down http://kubuntu.s3.amazonaws.com/list.html | 22:00 |
shadeslayer | :P | 22:00 |
shadeslayer | that shit is still working | 22:00 |
yofel | oh right, I totally forgot about that | 22:03 |
yofel | write something nice on the grave :P | 22:03 |
shadeslayer | yeah, I'll get Riddell to delete stuff tomorrow | 22:05 |
soee_ | updates to neon are done through normal session or do i have to login to neon ? | 22:23 |
shadeslayer | which one | 22:24 |
shadeslayer | also, updates to Neon 5 are unsupported | 22:24 |
shadeslayer | with all the moving around and what not | 22:24 |
soee_ | http://community.kde.org/Plasma/InstallingNext | 22:25 |
shadeslayer | right, upgrades are unsupported and at your own risk fwiw | 22:26 |
shadeslayer | soee_: I usually do : sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" dist-upgrade | 22:26 |
soee_ | shadeslayer: but, if you release weekly updates for plasma-next in neon | 22:27 |
soee_ | than i can get updates form normal session ? | 22:27 |
soee_ | *update the neon packages | 22:27 |
shadeslayer | right, but they're unsupported in the sense of, if files are moved around, you have to force overwrite things | 22:27 |
shadeslayer | since the packaging does not really track those kind of things | 22:28 |
soee_ | okay :) | 22:28 |
soee_ | i saw some shcedule and plasma next final will be released next moth ? | 22:29 |
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