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robotti^I could fix my sound on vlc using pavucontrol00:02
robotti^because I sould not change output device using gui apps00:03
rcw2lordievader, can you help robotti^00:04
rcw2or BluesKaj00:05
rcw2robotti^, wait for one of them00:06
robotti^rcw2: using pavucontrol I was able to fix sound.00:08
robotti^:D00:08
robotti^cool00:08
robotti^I was just trying to configure my alsa by hand00:09
robotti^but pavucontrol was easy way to fix sound00:09
rcw2robotti^, maybe  pavucontrol let you universalize pulseaudio to a greater extent in your system there00:11
rosco_yHow do I disable the Guest Account?00:13
rcw2rosco_y, disable from login screen only?00:14
rosco_yrcw2: ty, yes00:15
rcw2rosco_y, uncheck guest login here if that's your aim: http://forum.linuxbsdos.com/topic/101/how-to-disable-guest-account-from-the-login-screen-in-kubuntu00:16
robotti^rcw2: for some reason system wants to use integrated sound chip by default00:16
robotti^and it gives to me headaches00:16
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rcw2robotti^, talk to the kubuntu coders :)00:17
robotti^it is same with other linux distros also00:17
robotti^it was just first time to be so hard to change output00:18
rcw2some hardware is better coded for00:18
robotti^because I normally just change output and it works00:18
robotti^but now I could not change by default sound applet. That's why I finally installed pavucontrol and it works great now.00:18
robotti^rcw2: hardware drivers are working fine, but it just use wrong sound card :)00:19
robotti^because I have multiple sound cards on my computer00:19
rcw2robotti^, i imagine linux looking for one not two00:21
rcw2limited resources? :)00:22
robotti^It can support nicely several sound cards, sound outputs and inputs. But UI is not so intuitive and doing thins easily.00:22
robotti^things00:22
rcw2robotti^, yeah nice ui for minimal setup not luxury right?00:23
rcw2hardware-wise00:23
robotti^It can support -> It supports00:23
robotti^I just love GUI to informative and intuitive. And of course it should work.00:24
rcw2robotti^, well not nicely several apparently?00:24
robotti^whatever, it does work good enough now00:25
robotti^this is first time for over 10 years that I am using KDE.00:26
robotti^Last time it was like 2001-2003?00:27
robotti^rcw2: thanks for your help!00:29
rcw2robotti^, nice to know i had some involvement! :)00:30
robotti^inetutils-traceroute00:31
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Guest22724Hello, having issue with my HP Compaq dc5800 failing to wake from suspend.  I currently have proc/acpi/wakeup open right now, but don't know what to do next.01:34
Guest22724:)01:34
Guest22724Hello, having issue with my HP Compaq dc5800 failing to wake from suspend. I currently have proc/acpi/wakeup open right now, but don't know what to do next.02:46
bbxhello , i have 14.10 , i am getting this error ..            libc6:amd64 depends on libgcc1; however:   Package libgcc1 is not installed.02:59
bbxcan someone help me resolve this issue , i have looked around for a while ,,02:59
noaXessmorning04:22
noaXessmuon is still default software and udate manager, right?04:22
noaXessmine does not automatically search for updates and show icon.. i can set it to show notification, but it will be anytie disabled: http://i.imgur.com/dnVnRxZ.png04:33
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lordievaderrobotti^: Quickly reading your original message, sounds like you are using ALSA and not Pulseaudio.05:46
lordievaderrobotti^: Is this correct?05:46
lordievaderGood morning, by the by ;)05:46
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PogoI'm looking to update from Ubuntu 10.04 to Kubuntu 14.04. I went looking for the docs page at docs.kubuntu.org and could not find it. Can anyone point me to the documentation?10:02
WalexPogo: that they are Ubuntu and Kubuntu does not matter a lot, jus different package selections, but IIRC only single-step LTS upgrades are supported, so you may have to do 10.4 to 12.04 and then 12.04 to 14.0410:12
PogoI'll be backing up and doing a full install. The reason for looking for the docs was to see how to import my mail settings. Ubuntu-GNOME uses Thunderbird, which van read the Evolution contacts and email folders, but I don't know what Kmail can do.10:14
WalexPogo: Ubuntu have a command to do one-step: 'do-release-upgrade' and there is some documentation that you can easily find by web search10:15
WalexPogo: if you have no particular reason to reinstall, don't. In place-upgrade works pretty well.10:15
WalexHowever your Thunderbird-to-KMail transition is a different problem, that has little to do with the 10.04 to 14.04 upgrade.10:16
PogoI got stuck on that getting from 8.10 to 9.04. I ended up doing a full reinstall, and have done so ever since.10:17
Walexa particular reason to reinstall rather than upgrade-in-place is that it makes things rather faster, as in-place-upgrades over time fragment the filesystem a lot.10:17
WalexPogo: Thunderbird keeps mail archives in a standard format, and you ought to be able to import that in KMail fairly easily.10:18
PogoAnd I'm on a netbook with a relatively small SSD, so fragmenting is a problem to be avoided.10:18
hateballI've done do-release-upgrade since... 6.06. Never had any showstoppers, just a few broken things as is expected.10:18
hateballPogo: Does it support TRIM?10:18
PogoSorry, I don't know TRIM.10:19
hateball!trim10:19
ubottuMany Solid State Drives support TRIM, which allows the drive to do garbage collection and improves performance. Ubuntu 14.04 activates it by default. For older versions, see http://askubuntu.com/a/19480 for information on activating it.10:19
WalexPogo: *filesystem* fragmentation is less of a problem woth flash SSD, but admittely it is still a good idea to defragment the filesystem10:19
WalexPogo: TRIM/FSTRIM are really important features to extend the file of flash SSDs and keep their speed from decaying.10:20
BluesKajHiyas all10:20
PogoThanks, I'll see how I end up. In any case, what I need to find now is the documentation for Kmail. So... Can I get a link?10:20
WalexPogo: the best way to use it is to rung "fstrim $MOUNTPOINT" every now and then (e.g. weekly, or after major writing spurts like an upgrade or reinstall)10:22
WalexPogo: doing a search with keywords "import from thunderbird to kmail"10:23
Walexhttp://userbase.kde.org/KMail/Tools#Mail_Import_Tools10:23
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Walexhttps://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?40125-Moving-from-Thunderbird-to-Kmail-and-some-tips-about-other-parts-of-the-PIM10:24
Walexhttp://uniquegeek.blogspot.co.uk/2007/09/import-thunderbird-mail-into-kmail.html10:24
PogoThanks Walex. I'll schedule it after the install. Thanks heaps for your help. Time for me to eat...10:24
PogoQuick read of the docs that Walex pointed me to, and my questions are answered. Thanks all. Goodnight.11:12
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zenescanyone supporting?11:20
zeneschaving trouble reinstaling kubuntu on laptop. Impossible to clear dev/sdb on gparted, stays on error11:23
zenesctried to install mint and then ubuntu, impossible due to partition, don't know how to clear it11:26
BluesKajzenesc, delete the partition first then reset it to ext411:27
zenescimpossible to delete in gparted, also tried in konsole, need a proper step by step11:28
BluesKajare you using the gparted live-cd?11:29
zenescgparted on usb key11:29
BluesKajis the partition encrypted by any chance?11:30
zenescno, was set up automatically not encrypted11:31
zenesctry to acces from usb key kubuntu, mint, ubuntu, but same . from gparted can acces key kubuntu but not hard disc11:32
BluesKajis this laptop less then 3 yrs old? and does it still have Windows installed?11:33
zenescno more windows11:34
BluesKajis there a /dev/sda partition?11:35
zenesccan I format hard disk (don't know how) and reinstall?11:35
zenescthe dev/sda partition is the usb key kubuntu11:35
zenescfor it boots on the key for installation11:36
BluesKajzenesc, with gparted try a new partition table for the hdd , then reformat11:37
zenescdoesn't accept new partition table11:38
BluesKajwhat's on that partition ?11:40
nandhuzenesc -> Are you trying to install in /dev/sdb?11:41
nandhuzenesc --> I guess you might have the live OS in /dev/sdb . And trying to install on same11:42
zenescI am opening KDE partition manager11:42
nandhucould you tell how many partition it shows11:42
BluesKajnandhu, that's what I suspected11:42
zenescdev/sda in the usbkey dev/sdb hard disk11:43
nandhuzenesc -> did you tried to install in dev/sda?11:43
nandhuusually /dev/sda will be your hard disk11:43
zenescno11:43
nandhucould you past the error message in past bin11:44
zenescsda in 4 gib corresponding to the usb key, sdb in 300gib11:44
nandhuok then sdb is your HDD i guess11:44
nandhuzenesc -> so you are tyring to install in sdb?11:44
zenescyes11:45
nandhuzenesc -> what is the exact error message you get?11:45
nandhuzenesc -> have to tried to delete all partition in sdb and recreate it11:46
zenescthe is no partition table at the moment11:46
zenescI ge teror on created new partition table on dev/sdb11:47
nandhuzenesc -> i guess partation is currupted .. Just give me a moment  i too got this error once11:48
nandhuzenesc ->Try to create a new partation table11:50
BluesKajzenesc, unmount the partition and try to format, if possible11:50
nandhuzenesc ->under devices create partation table11:50
nandhuand select MBR11:50
zenescneed label afet file system ext411:51
nandhuso you are able to create partation now?11:51
nandhuonly lable issue11:51
BluesKajchoose ext411:52
BluesKajno label needed, just ext411:52
nandhuyes label is optional11:52
zenescget error create new partition table on /dev/sdb11:54
nandhucould you type "sudo fdisk -l"11:55
nandhuand past the output11:55
nandhuin Terminal11:56
BluesKajzenesc, can you choose "check" in the option dialog (right click)11:56
zenescget text in terminal don't understand11:58
nandhuopen the Terminal (command prompt for linux)11:58
nandhuuse (ctrl+alt+t)11:58
zenescseems to be dev/sda as disk11:59
zenescsays: dev/sda:4051 MB 151 heads, 42 sectors/track, 1247 cylinders etc12:00
zenescdevice bot dev/sda112:01
BluesKajzenesc, so the usb is dev/sdb12:01
nandhuyes so /dev/sda is USB since it shows 4051 MB12:01
zenescno usb is dev/sda12:01
nandhuoh ya12:02
nandhusorry12:02
BluesKajit shouldn't be12:02
nandhuok please past the complete output12:02
nandhuuse pastbin.com12:02
nandhuand give link12:02
zenescbecause it boots on it from bios there is nothing on pc at the moment no OS12:02
BluesKajzenesc, how many partitions on the drive?12:03
zenescdon't know think nothing12:04
nandhuok zenesc if you are sure that sdb is the harddisk12:04
nandhudd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M12:04
nandhutry the above command in Terminal12:04
nandhuit will clear the complete hardisk12:04
nandhuthen you can create new partation12:04
nandhusorry12:04
nandhudd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1M12:04
nandhusdb12:04
nandhunot sda12:04
BluesKajthat will take some time tho12:05
nandhuyes12:05
nandhuit will take some time12:05
BluesKajdoubt that dd will be able to write to the disk, simce it errors with any kind of input12:06
BluesKajsince12:06
zenescfailed to open /dev/sdb permision denied12:07
BluesKajsudo dd12:07
zenescno answer12:08
BluesKajthen it's writing12:08
zenescis that ok?12:09
BluesKajdo you see the disk activity light on ?12:09
nandhuuse sudo12:09
BluesKajflickering12:09
nandhusudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1M12:09
BluesKajhe did12:10
zenescno flikering on key, fix light12:10
BluesKajok well steady ones and zeros probly gives a steady light12:11
zenescif sudo dd make it work, it should be long for it reads from usb2key12:12
BluesKajzenesc, how large is the partition, do you recall?12:12
zenescprobably 200gib12:13
zenescit was done automatically from instalation12:14
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nandhucan you try using12:14
nandhusudo cfdisk12:14
BluesKajzenesc, what installation?12:14
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nandhusudo cfdisk /dev/sdb12:15
nandhutry to formate using cfdisk12:15
nandhuits a command line tool12:15
zenescI installed kubuntu before in it then removed and try to install again12:16
zenescsudo cfdisk give sda12:18
zenescok sdb12:18
nandhuso you are able to delete partation over there12:19
zenescfatal error cannot read disk drive12:19
zenescthis for sdb12:20
BluesKajzenesc, does the drive show any data on the "used" portion?12:37
zeneschow can I know?12:38
zenesclook at partition editor12:39
BluesKajyes12:39
BluesKaja portion of the partition will show up as a different colour which represents data12:40
BluesKajzenesc, you said kubuntu installed but you removed it. how did you remove it?12:42
zenescdon't seen to have anything and says unrecognised disk label12:42
zenescFrom gparted erasing first partition12:43
BluesKajby erasing do you mean delete12:45
zenescsi12:45
zenescI could then reinstall Kubuntu but didn't get to be stable. now impossible12:46
BluesKajyou said first partition,are there any others?12:47
zenescon partition manager says no valid partition table was found on this device12:48
zenescnot now because I did installed many time trying all options, from only one partition deleting the others and then with new partitions and then nothing, at the moment no table found on the device12:50
zenescis there a way to format hd?12:55
BluesKajzenesc, open the terminal and try this , sudo fdisk /dev/sdb n12:56
BluesKajwe need to create a partition table before we can format12:57
BluesKajzenesc, then sudo fdisk /dev/sdb w12:59
zenescoption fdisk`give same options13:00
zenescfrom b to s13:00
BluesKajsorry, sudo fdisk /dev/sdb -n , then sudo fdisk /dev/sdb -w13:02
zenesc-n and -w give invalide options13:05
zenesc-b,-c,-h,-u,-v,-C,-H,-S13:06
zenescbut don't know how to write it13:06
zenescwith -b says it requires an argument13:08
zenesctried fdisk [b]sdb13:10
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alvinIs there a PPA with kernels to test? I have trouble loading Bluetooth firmware after wake up from suspend14:11
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yofelalvin: if you mean vanilla kernels, there's http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/14:12
alvinyofel: Maybe. Won't I miss a lot of necessary patches?14:13
alvinIt's worth a try14:13
yofelwell, you'll miss the ubuntu patches, whether you need them or not depends on the situation14:13
robotti^lordievader: yes, most modern desktop applications are using pulseaudio. and many are using alsa like flash.14:47
robotti^lordievader: I am using both14:47
robotti^of course every software has alsa support14:48
BluesKajintel cpu and other mobos that use intel hda audio like those on lenovo don't need pulseaudio for flash and als to work together on websites, other mobos are not so lucky14:59
BluesKajals=alsa15:00
lordievaderrobotti^: Both? I hope you are using ALSA through Pulse.15:00
BluesKajmy amd cpu equipped pcs need pulseaudio for webaudio even tho one has the intel hda chip on SB15:04
BluesKajstill haven't figured out why alsa and flash don't link thru websites without pulse on some boards and not others , it's a mystery to me15:06
Avihaywell, noone realy grocks linox sound, or else it would have "Just works(tm)"15:20
BillieHow can I install Ubuntu on Samsung ATIV Smart PC 500TC Convertible?15:32
robotti^lordievader: Yes16:24
robotti^BluesKaj: hello16:25
robotti^BluesKaj: is your sound broken on browsers?16:26
robotti^BluesKaj: or using wrong sound card?16:26
lordievaderrobotti^: Have you installed pavucontrol?16:30
BluesKajrobotti^, no my sound is fine, just commenting that I need pulseaudio on my HP/amd pcs, but not on my Lenovo/intel laptop17:22
robotti^aah, okay :)17:23
st0rmg0dHiho! Someone knows the installing time of linuxmint kde x68 ? ... my pc is working since 20 minutes and has 30% ...18:01
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andrew__Hi all20:14
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lordievadero/20:15
andrew__I installed Kubuntu, then Windows, now GRUB loader is temporarily gone. I know the general procedure that I should follow in order to regain it (http://askubuntu.com/questions/88384/how-can-i-repair-grub-how-to-get-ubuntu-back-after-installing-windows), but I don't know which partition I should replace /dev/sdXX. The partition on which there is Linux?20:15
lordievaderandrew__: You install grub to the root of the device. Usually this is /dev/sda20:16
bpromptditto20:17
lordievaderandrew__: However, this is a better guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows20:17
andrew__lordievader: I've seen it. But it doesn't work.20:17
andrew__ls -l /dev/disk/by-label/ shows only CD-ROM, that's all.20:18
lordievaderandrew__: The terminal way works, you might have to mount /boot and point to it. But it works.20:18
andrew__lordievader: I do not have /boot as a separate partition.20:19
bpromptandrew__:     did you mean   ->   sudo fdisk -l ?20:19
lordievaderThen it might still be necessary to tell the grub-installer where /boot is.20:19
andrew__bprompt: no, I meant ls -l /dev/disk/by-label20:21
andrew__lordievader: how?20:21
andrew__aha, it screamed something like "is /dev/ mounted?"20:21
lordievaderandrew__: "sudo mount /dev/sdaX /mnt&&sudo grub-install --boot-directory /mnt/boot" Change sdaX into your root-fs.20:22
andrew__ok, thx, I will try, we will see if this simple procedure works...20:23
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andrew__no, this simple procedure simply does not work20:46
andrew__complained of SquashFS, something like that20:46
bnutzerhey, i just discovered something positive about the state of 14.04 :) it's still quite buggy for me, but looks like some bug disabled the desktop search! :)21:15
cfaulk40Evening :)  Well I'm still stuck in ubuntu - I don't know what's going on, but I've downloaded the same ISO from Kubuntu 3 times now, burned it to USB Stick with unetbootin, and all three times it comes back with "Boot Error" when I try to boot from it.22:14
cfaulk40Does anyone have any ideas that could help me please? I recall being able to "burn" somewhere with dd from a terminal, but I'll be damned if I can remember how.22:15
shadeslayercfaulk40: which release?22:18
cfaulk4014.0422:18
shadeslayerhave you tried with usb-creator22:19
shadeslayerand then dd'ing the ISO22:19
cfaulk40it's doing my nut.  I dl'd the wrong ISO - i got one from ubuntu.org, and wound up with a load of gnome stuff I didn't want.22:19
shadeslayeralso make sure the md5sum is correct22:19
cfaulk40I don't know how to use usb-creator22:19
cfaulk40I just looked in my apps menu - i don't even have a usb-creator in there22:21
shadeslayercfaulk40: uh, what OS are you running22:21
cfaulk40at the moment, ubuntu 14.04LTS22:21
shadeslayerok22:21
shadeslayerjust dd it then22:21
shadeslayerpress ctrl+alt+t22:21
cfaulk40ok, i got a terminal22:22
shadeslayera terminal will pop up -> sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX22:22
shadeslayerwhere X => device22:22
cfaulk40ok, i'll get that done now22:22
TheFakeazneD525Ubuntu.org isn't the site :/22:22
shadeslayer( usually you can do sudo fdisk -l to find out which is your usb disk )22:22
TheFakeazneD525http://cdimage.ubuntu.com22:22
shadeslayer^^22:22
cfaulk40I know what I mean, even if nobody else does :P22:23
cfaulk40All I know is, I got an Ubuntu ISO instead of a Kubuntu ISO22:24
ikoniayou downloaded the wrong iso, no big deal22:24
* shadeslayer heads to bed22:25
shadeslayernight everyone22:25
cfaulk40ikonia, The thing is, I only did what I did last time - which probably means the last install I had of kubuntu, 12.04 LTS, probably wasn't kubuntu.22:27
ikoniaif you can't tell the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu, what does it matter what it is22:27
cfaulk40I can, but I sorta can't.  Having holes in your memory the size of lakes isn't a good thing, it plays hell with your brain.22:29
ikoniaso "you can't"22:29
cfaulk40the only thing which gives it away is a lot of gnome things which i didn't really want :)22:30
ikoniathe thing that gives it away is the huge boot logo that says "ubuntu" or "kubuntu" then the desktop either being unity or kde22:30
ikoniathose are two huge things that "give it away"22:30
cfaulk40in that case it was kubuntu.22:33
cfaulk40It just didn't "look" like I remember KDE in any way.  I guess shit changes with time :D22:35
ikoniano need to swear22:35
cfaulk40_sorry, dropped off for a bit.22:36
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CharlieTheCabbieok, well i know what's wrong now, and why the burns have been failing. dd just output an error - no space left on device.  It's trying to write past EOD, so I have to get a bigger usb stick.22:52
CharlieTheCabbieI'll try some other time.22:52
CharlieTheCabbiei don't get it though - it's a 1GB stick, and a 1GB iso.22:53
CharlieTheCabbieis my math faulty or something?22:53
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ikoniahow big EXACTLY is the iso22:56
CharlieTheCabbieone sec22:58
CharlieTheCabbie1012MB22:59
ikoniaand how big exactly is your usb22:59
CharlieTheCabbie1018MB23:00
ikoniaso on paper that should fit, however I suspect rounding maybe causing you a problem, try changing the block size23:01
ikoniaor to be safe, just use a bigger usb23:01
ikoniaor a dvd23:01
TheFakeazneD525iso kinda compacts stuff23:02
TheFakeazneD525I guess23:02
TheFakeazneD525s/guess/think23:02
ikoniawhat has that got to do with anything ?23:02
CharlieTheCabbieso the math now does fail me, do I shrink or increase the bs attribute in the dd command?23:02
ikoniaCharlieTheCabbie: you can use the bs= syntax for the block size it writes in,23:03
CharlieTheCabbieok, we'll try again! I'll be blowed if I'm giving up on this :)23:03
dodger_i could imagine that the file system allocates a bit of the space for every so many blocks that are written, so you may end up each MB of data copied to the stick actually taking up a little more than 1MB23:19
dodger_block size waste should really only come into play if you have many files23:20
CharlieTheCabbieyeah, I can't seem to get it on the stick no matter how hard I try, so I'll just have to nip out in the morning and buy a more up to date stick.  I've had this one about 3 years :)23:20
CharlieTheCabbieI'll come back and have another shot then. Right now, I need Z's before I wake up with poiuytrewq embossed into my forehead in the morning.23:20
CharlieTheCabbieI don't like sleeping on keyboards!23:21
CharlieTheCabbienight all.23:21
dodger_i have one of these on my keychain that i carry a live Kubuntu around on (and my encryption key for two-factor authentication for my laptop :P)23:21
dodger_http://www.bestbuy.com/site/kingston-technology-datatraveler-micro-8gb-usb-flash-drive-black/5909325.p?id=1218705874830&skuId=5909325&ref=06&loc=01&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=5909325&extensionType=pla:g&s_kwcid=PTC!pla!!!40526151319!g!!49989913879&kpid=5909325&k_clickid=3042aeda-8c00-8768-7b7e-000039b5f80023:21
dodger_haha23:21
dodger_goodnight!23:21
CharlieTheCabbieI have a friend of mine who put the boot sector for his linux install onto a USB stick23:21
CharlieTheCabbiebecame fatal for him, cause he lost his USB stick and couldn't boot his own pc.23:22
dodger_hehe23:22
dodger_i keep two copies of the key23:22
dodger_one on my desktop and one on my phone23:22
CharlieTheCabbiegood call :)23:22
CharlieTheCabbieAnyhow, just gonna say hello to some regs, then off to bed.23:22
CharlieTheCabbieSee ya23:22

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