[05:39] <mazal> Morning everyone
[06:20] <bduk> More almal
[06:37] <superfly> morning bduk
[06:45] <bduk> How are you superfly 
[06:56] <superfly> bduk: I little on the cold side, but I'll warm up when I put my beany back on. How are you?
[07:01] <bduk> Fine this side Mazal is also crying bout his beany, I don't even have a jersey on.
[07:02] <superfly> Eish, I'm not a vrystaat farmer, I can't stand the cold
[07:04] <bduk> Also don't like the cold but it's not that cold. I get iritated quickly with a jersey or jacket if i want to work and when taking it of at work i must remember to take it home again so it's just to much trouble. 
[07:05] <bduk> They say when a vrystaat farmer get cold he put on two shirts
[07:29] <Kilos> ai! ai! ai! no power since 0720
[07:29] <Kilos> hi superfly ThatGraemeGuy bduk mazal and others as well
[07:30] <mazal> More oom
[07:30] <bduk> More oom Kilos 
[07:32] <Vince-0> o/ oom
[07:33] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:33] <Kilos> dont you also start the oom thing
[07:36] <Vince-0> ha!
[07:36] <Vince-0> almal is a oom in Afrikaans?
[07:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning young man
[07:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> :-p
[07:38] <Kilos> hahaha hi ThatGraemeGuy i even build a little place for bart to sleep so you dont come flying down and kill him
[07:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> haha
[07:39] <Kilos> does e work with up too?
[07:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> when i get around to getting homedecor working you can craft a real bed, lamp, etc
[07:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> it does
[07:40] <Kilos> cool that was the bad part about deep mining
[07:40] <Kilos> ya i must supply my poor dwarf with some home comforts
[07:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> just be careful if you're holding e when you come to the top of the ladder you go flying high in the air, you must be careful not to move left/right/up/down else you'll hit something solid when you land
[07:40] <Kilos> lol
[07:44] <Kilos> found massive old mined places. when digging down you fall some. luckily rats are good food
[07:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> where?
[07:44] <Kilos> -3292
[07:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> only you will have mined that
[07:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> unless you mean normal caves
[07:45] <charl_> good morning
[07:45] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[07:45]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[07:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> and never step into the darkness :-)
[07:45] <Kilos> i just got there so it was shaped before
[07:45] <charl_> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[07:45] <Kilos> hi charl_ 
[07:46] <charl_> hi Kilos 
[07:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: that's just a cave
[07:47] <Kilos> ah
[07:48] <Kilos> massive. if i wasnt first there id think you been there. but not as tidy
[07:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> do you hit lava often down there or not really?
[07:49] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[07:49] <charl_> Maaz: thanks
[07:49] <Maaz> charl_: No problem
[07:49] <Kilos> only that once
[07:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> ok
[07:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: i've set up the map script: http://mt.donaldson.za.net/
[07:54] <Kilos> how do i scroll left and right
[07:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> drag the image with the mouse or use browser's scrollbars
[07:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> hoping the co-ordinate scal might help when feeling a bit lost :)
[07:56] <Kilos> oh wow ty
[07:56] <Kilos> ive even tried turn my mouse 90 degrees
[07:56] <Kilos> hehe
[07:57] <Kilos> i dunno if opera has scroll bars
[07:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> got it working?
[07:58] <superfly> hi Kilos
[07:58] <superfly> hi ThatGraemeGuy, charl_
[07:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning :)
[07:59] <Kilos> ya ty ThatGraemeGuy dragging the image worked
[07:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> cool
[07:59]  * superfly set up the dragging thingie on the map
[08:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> it even works on my mobile
[08:00] <Kilos> dankie oompie
[08:27] <mazal> Morning superfly , can I bother ?
[08:35] <mazal> ThatGraemeGuy, that map , is it a mod or how exactly do you get that onto the server ?
[08:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> its a python script that you run
[08:36] <mazal> Can you point me in the right direction where I can dl it please
[08:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://mt.donaldson.za.net/minetestmapper-numpy.py
[08:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> you also need to apt-get install python-numpy
[08:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh and grab http://mt.donaldson.za.net/colors.txt as well
[08:38] <mazal> I don't know zip about python. Where do I put those two files ?
[08:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> it must be in the same dir as the python script
[08:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> anywhere you want really
[08:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> */10 * * * * /home/minetest/minetestmapper-numpy.py /home/minetest/.minetest/worlds/Fook_Island /home/minetest/map/fook_island.png --drawscale --draworigin --origincolor red
[08:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> that's the cron job i set up
[08:39] <mazal> Thanx will try it
[08:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> /home/minetest/map is set up to be served by the web server in my case
[08:40] <mazal> Is all a bit greek to me
[08:41] <mazal> If I understand that correct , the script produces the png file , which in turn must be in web server
[08:42] <superfly> yes
[08:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> ^^ what he said
[08:52] <mazal> Kewl I got a png , now need to figure out how to server it with apache
[08:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> you already have apache running for some other purpose?
[08:55] <mazal> Yep
[08:55] <mazal> It's installed , but not setup though
[08:56] <mazal> Just the default " It works "
[08:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> ok cool
[08:57] <mazal> btw , that */10 in first block means every 10 minutes yes ?
[08:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> correct
[08:57] <mazal> What is a good apache config tool ?
[08:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> vim
[08:58] <superfly> vi
[08:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> :-D
[08:58] <superfly> ^5
[08:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> woot!
[08:59] <mazal> Ish eina , that means editing the conf file :P
[08:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> do you want the map accessible from the root of your web site or a url like /map/?
[09:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> so http:/mysite/ or http://mysite/map/ ?
[09:00] <mazal> mysite/map would be nice
[09:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> just add a line like this in the default vhost then:
[09:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> Alias /map/ /path/to/place/you/put/the/png
[09:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> might need to "sudo a2enmod alias && sudo service apache2 reload" before that works
[09:04] <mazal> If I run a cp command in a crontab entry , will it overwrite the destination file automatically everytime ?
[09:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> yes
[09:13] <mazal> Thanx ThatGraemeGuy , gonna see if I can get this working. 
[09:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> np
[09:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> you running a server? our world not good enough for you? :P
[09:14] <Kilos> haha
[09:16] <mazal> I've been playing on a lan server that I made for me and Barry for more than a week now. The online server lags too bad
[09:20] <Kilos> sigh
[09:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> that should be fixed, we moved it
[09:44] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, the e dont seem to speed bart up much
[09:44] <Kilos> going up
[09:44] <Kilos> 15 mins to get halfway
[09:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> weird
[09:45] <Kilos> just space and e hey?
[09:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> try pressing J and see if is says fast mode enabled
[09:46] <Kilos> yoohoo thats rocking now ty
[09:46] <mazal> ThatGraemeGuy, one of our biggest problems is me and Barry is on the same router on only a 2mb line. So lag hammers us
[09:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> the server is in SA now, even Kilos on 3G hasn't got lag anymore
[09:47] <Kilos> and you gotta maintain your castle and stuff mazal sdo make plans not excuses
[09:48] <Kilos> and go see ThatGraemeGuy s pyramid and the flys ship
[09:52] <mazal> I saw the ship , looks awesome. 
[09:55] <mazal> Barry is busy testing on the new server to see how it goes
[10:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> 2mbit is plenty for a game like this, it only sends small packets back and forth, it's the latency that usually makes for a poor experience, and now that its in SA it should be better
[10:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> like i said Kilos is on 3G which is typically a poor choice for gaming but he's reported no lag since switching
[10:05] <Kilos> no one can complain about that speed map opens as fast as ladder rises holding e down
[10:18] <bduk> Thanks you clever guys. Also no lag here
[10:20] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, you wanted glass. 99 here in chest by me now
[10:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> thanks, i already made 12 stacks of 99 ;-)
[10:26] <Kilos> lol
[10:26] <Kilos> bragger
[10:28] <Kilos> weeee
[10:29] <Kilos> we need to make straight roads without bends
[10:29] <Kilos> e works lekker. like having a turbo audi
[10:50] <superfly> phew, that e is dangerous
[11:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> superfly: with great power comes great responsibility :P
[11:30] <superfly> haha
[11:43] <Kilos> ya i ran into the blocks i put by the turns a few times
[11:44] <Kilos> yay for apples and rat
[11:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> you need to be carefule running on hilly terrain too you might throw yourself into a low area without realising
[11:44] <Kilos> i use roads , im civilized
[11:46] <Kilos> oh ThatGraemeGuy can you give me a couple of them rubber tree saplings please
[11:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> jungle tree you mean? we don't have rubber trees?
[11:46] <Kilos> and them long tall acorns i think
[11:46] <Kilos> there were rubber
[11:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> that was on the other test world i had, not this one
[11:47] <Kilos> ah
[11:48] <mazal> I am yet to run into jungle tress
[11:48] <mazal> trees even
[11:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> jungles weren't enabled when superfly generated the map originally, we imported them ;-)
[11:49] <Kilos> look at ThatGraemeGuy s house 
[11:49] <Kilos> very tall
[11:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> i don't think i have any jungle saplings, but i have tons of cotton seed, help yourself
[11:49] <Kilos> you gotta build up to cut them
[11:49] <Kilos> no man
[11:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> if you want saplings just chop at the leaves
[11:49] <Kilos> i dont farm cotton any more
[11:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> easier than trying to chop down the whole jungle tree those things are massive
[11:50] <Kilos> saplings fall only when you cut the trees dont they
[11:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> and they grow so close together that taking down 1 tree isn't likely to drop any saplings anyway
[11:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> no you can just chop at leaves
[11:50] <Kilos> aha c ool
[11:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> most of the time you just get leaves, but sometimes you get a sapling
[11:52] <Kilos> so hows the lag mazal ?
[11:57] <charl_> hmmm the linux-firmware package has just been updated to version 1.127.4 but i don't know why
[11:57] <charl_> there is nothing on packages.ubuntu.com or ubuntu security notices about it yet
[11:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-firmware/linux-firmware_1.127.4/changelog
[11:59] <charl_> ThatGraemeGuy: ah thanks, i'll look there next time
[11:59] <charl_> oh i see there was a link after all on packages.ubuntu.com, missed it earlier
[11:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> to be fair, http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/linux-firmware lists 1.127.3 i just followed the url to its changelog and changed the 3 to 4
[11:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> sometimes you get lucky like that
[12:00] <charl_> yeah exactly
[12:42] <Kilos> uh oh ThatGraemeGuy game not working
[12:42] <Kilos> logs on then permalag
[12:42] <Kilos> you broke it
[12:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> working for me
[12:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> try close, re-open that sometimes fixes glitches
[12:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> you timed out try now
[12:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> kilos i see you crafting sticks 4 at a time
[12:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can middle-click in the sticks in the crafter's result block to pick up 10 at a time
[12:52] <Kilos> ya i gotta drag them to inventory isnt it
[12:52] <Kilos> ah
[12:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> so planks in the crafter makes 4 sticks per plank, middle click 4 times to pick up 40 sticks
[12:53] <Kilos> cool ty
[12:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> np
[12:54] <mazal> Bye everyone
[12:54] <Kilos> cool thats more better
[15:32] <Kilos> ai! ai! ai! another 40 mins no power
[15:32] <Kilos> time to email the mayor of pta
[15:33] <Kilos> google mayor of pretoria south african email address
[15:35] <Kilos> Maaz, google mayor of pretoria south african email address
[15:35] <Maaz> Kilos: "City of Tshwane Metropolitan Municipality - Wikipedia, the free ..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Tshwane_Metropolitan_Municipality :: "An Open Letter to the Mayor of Pretoria - Environment News South ..." http://www.environment.co.za/laws-and-procedures/an-open-letter-to-the-mayor-of-pretoria.html :: "Contact Us - Tshwane"
[15:35] <Maaz> http://www.tshwane.gov.za/Contact%20Us/Pages/default.aspx :: "Sexual & Reproductive Health Program in South Africa…
[15:46] <bduk> hi Kilos 
[15:46] <Kilos> hi bduk 
[15:47] <Kilos> ha jou 1 het af geval
[15:51] <bduk> Sal hom nou nou weer optel
[16:10] <bduk> Kilos: 
[16:10] <Kilos> ya bduk 
[16:11] <bduk> Daai manne se server loopsoos n roomys
[16:11] <Kilos> maak nie saak nie man ek terg net
[16:11] <Kilos> ya dis lekker vinnig ne
[16:12] <Kilos> ek speel lekker nou op die ene
[16:12] <bduk> Dis nou 'n plesier om te speel. 
[16:12] <bduk> Is jy besig om te speel nou?
[16:12]  * Kilos stem
[16:12] <Kilos> nee ek is besig om tswane mense te epos en te kerm oor krag
[16:13] <Kilos> het jy ThatGraemeGuy se pyramid gaan sien sjoe die mense darem
[16:13] <Kilos> en die vlieg se skip
[16:14] <Kilos> jy moet binne hulle kyk nie net van buite beloer nie
[16:15] <bduk> Dag jy maak net 'n grap. Ja weet nie of dit regtig gaan help nie alles in die land is mar besig om uitmekaar te val. Ek en Mazal gaan more kragdag toe hulle stal allerhandedinge en nuwe maniere uit oor hoe om van die grid af te kom maar ai dis vrek duur
[16:15] <bduk> Sal gaan loer
[16:42] <Kilos> bduk, waar kry ek nups data kabel
[16:42] <Kilos> ups
[16:44] <bduk> Ish ek het nog nooit soiets gesoek nie, myne het 'n gewone flylead utp plug agter maar as jy my more onthou kan ek vir jou uitvind
[16:44] <Kilos> haha
[16:45] <bduk> Nou hoekom lag jy?
[16:45] <Kilos> ek is seker is is siek in die ups, dit sit af na 3 sekondes en batery wys nog oor 12v
[16:48] <bduk> Het jy die batterye uitgehaal en gemeet. Dis ook nie tese die batterye is reg as hulle 12v wys nie.Hulle kan die reg te volts wys maar sodra hulle moet werk is hulle te swak
[16:48] <Kilos> ek sal dit toets met n kar se spotlight
[16:50] <bduk> ja jy sal moet toets met iets wat krag trek n voltmeter trek geen stroom nie
[16:50] <bduk> Hoe oud is hulle
[16:50] <Kilos> ?
[16:50] <Kilos> jare
[16:50] <Kilos> weggooi goed wat ek gekry het
[16:51] <Kilos> skrap pc en toe kom dit saam toe hulle wou skoonmaak
[16:51] <bduk> Is dit die 7amp/uur batterye?
[16:52] <bduk> As hulle jare oud is is hulle gedaan hulle hou maar so 3 tot 5 jaar eintlik
[16:57] <Kilos> ?
[16:57] <Kilos> sal moet oop maak en kyk
[17:42] <bduk> Het jy jou brief klaar geskryf? Ek hoor hulle se elektrisiteit verbruik is hoog jy moet jou pc's afsit anders sithulle weer jou krag af
[18:04] <Kilos> lol
[18:05] <Kilos> ja dis gestuur
[18:05] <bduk> jY VAT SO LAK OM TE ANTWOORD EK DAG ek praat met myself. Sorry vir die groot letters
[18:06] <Kilos> na customercare <customercare@tshwane.gov.za>
[18:06] <bduk> Dis ok seker waar dit gaan stop
[18:06] <Kilos> man ek het so kwaai gemy ek het mese verloor in die groot grot
[18:07] <Kilos> ek is skoon verdwaal nou hier onder
[18:08] <bduk> Ek moet gaan slaap more sukkel Mazal om my wakker te hou. Wens die ou wat die game uit gevind het kry n pyn laaaaag in sy nek
[18:08] <Kilos> o en ek het gaan eet ook
[18:08] <Kilos> lekker slaap
[18:09] <bduk> neeman dis nog te vroeg moet nog bietjie myn
[18:09] <Kilos> haha
[18:26] <superfly> Naandsê oom Kilos 
[18:27] <Kilos> naand my vkieg, ek by die warm goed weer
[18:27] <Kilos> waar is graampie
[18:27] <Kilos> vlieg
[18:28] <bduk> Kilos: lyk my jyt ietsie gedring om warm te bly naand superfly 
[18:29] <Kilos> lol groot vuur hier onder
[18:29] <Kilos> -3375
[18:29] <superfly> Hi bduk 
[18:29] <superfly> Wow, that's far down
[18:30] <Kilos> ya but quick with e used superfly 
[18:30] <Kilos> 2 mins or 3 not 45 anymore
[18:30] <Kilos> come see fire
[18:32] <superfly> I will when I am at my pc
[18:32] <Kilos> im trying to get past it to attack from the back. he goes headon 
[18:33] <Kilos> ill be here a while yet. this is too exciting. biggest lava so far i think
[18:40] <bduk> Kilos: jy moet ophou m3t die vuur speel jy weet wat het die ou mense altyd gese
[18:40] <Kilos> haha jy maak die bed nat
[18:56] <Kilos> Maaz, tell ThatGraemeGuy Bring water!!
[18:56] <Maaz> Kilos: Got it, I'll tell ThatGraemeGuy on freenode
[19:00]  * Kilos goes to get hot water bottle
[19:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> lo
[19:16] <Maaz> ThatGraemeGuy: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell ThatGraemeGuy Bring water!!" 19 minutes and 48 seconds ago
[19:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> oi
[19:16] <Kilos> hehe
[19:16] <bduk> Hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[19:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> lo
[19:29] <superfly> ohi
[19:30] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[19:31] <bduk> Lekker slaap almal. And thanks again for making the server faster
[19:31] <Kilos> jy ook dankie bduk 
[19:42] <inetpro> goeienaand 
[19:42] <Kilos> naand inetpro gaanit?
[19:45] <superfly> hi inetpro
[19:49] <inetpro> Hi Kilometers and supervlieg 
[19:49] <Kilos> haha
[19:49]  * inetpro good and you? 
[19:49] <Kilos> ook so danke
[20:23] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[20:51] <charl_> nn all