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Unit193@^!%#$@#!!!  forestpiskie: http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/316/builds/67147/testcases/1562/results It's alright that it has you use what I'd presume is the applications menu rather than whisker, since it's only testing the panel, right?  And, adding a panel test repeats itself.03:48
meetingologyUnit193: Error: "^!%#$@#!!!" is not a valid command.03:48
Unit193I don't personally like that it has you open and close the window about 10 times, but meh.03:52
Unit193ochosi: Did that description help?  Desktop's common useage isn't for videos and pictures, thus large thumbnails aren't necessary.05:38
Noskcajbluesabre, Show me an example translation update05:56
NoskcajAlthough i'm not sure the exact policy, if the package has an MRE it would include it05:57
NoskcajI'll add a comment to your developer application too05:59
NoskcajSo our upower patch *should* make it safe to drop all upower code from xfce4-session\07:36
NoskcajI'll get my PPA finished then could we have some testing to be sure?07:36
Noskcajelfy ^07:37
elfyI guess so - but I was really hoping that we could get away from ppa's from here there and everywhere and using the xubuntu ones 07:38
NoskcajI've not got -devel access yet, plus this PPA isn't xubuntu specific07:38
NoskcajI have to go, i'll be back later07:39
elfyok07:44
elfyhi xnox 08:13
xnoxelfy: hey!08:15
elfyhow's things - busy busy busy I suspect :)08:16
ochosiUnit193: yeah, sorry, haven't gotten to it yet08:52
Noskcajppa:noskcaj/upower should be ready for xfce testing09:49
Noskcajping me if i need to update the gnome-settings-daemon version09:49
bluesabrehey Noskcaj, don't have one ready, was planning on shipping translation updates for each of my apps before 14.04.1.  They only differences are updated .po files10:19
bluesabreI can bug the ubuntu-devel guys about it10:19
knomebluesabre, i don't think translation updates are traditionally landed as SRU's, but that shouldn't stop you from asking10:24
bluesabreknome, can you add importance to these?  They've gone largely ignored for a while now...10:37
bluesabrehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/133187110:37
ubottuUbuntu bug 1331871 in lightdm-gtk-greeter (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Please backport lightdm-gtk-greeter 1.8.5 to trusty" [Undecided,New]10:37
bluesabrehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/menulibre/+bug/132340510:37
ubottuUbuntu bug 1323405 in menulibre (Ubuntu Trusty) "[SRU] Please backport menulibre-2.0.4 to trusty" [Undecided,New]10:37
knomeif you've followed the SRU process correctly, and nothing happens, poke the right people10:38
bluesabreI cannot proceed, they have to be uploaded to trusty-proposed before the SRU process begins10:39
knomeeg. if it's verificated, check who's the SRU person for today on the SRU process wikipage and poke then10:39
knomeaha10:39
knomeso you need sponsoring?10:39
bluesabreyes10:39
knomewell then follow the sponsorship procedure10:39
bluesabreI have10:39
bluesabreI'll email some sponsors directly next10:39
knomedo the sponsors have a mailing list? try that first.10:40
knomebluesabre, are your bugs fixed now by colin?11:14
bluesabreknome: yay, black screen bug is fixed11:16
ali1234did we get reports of mplayer crashing when you switch virtual desktops?14:43
ali1234it's caused by this: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/532671/mplayer-vdpau-is-not-stable-when-switching-fullscreen-state/14:43
ali1234it's an nvidia bug14:43
elfyI've not seen any ali1234 14:43
ali1234i thought i saw some on launchpad14:43
elfythere might well be - I only see bugs that come through to m/l14:44
ali1234well anyway the workaround is to not use vdpau video playback14:47
ali1234or turn off compositing14:48
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Unit193http://paste.openstack.org/show/85017/ ?  Not really sure what's all needed to be said.19:18
elfyperhaps ask team to try it *shrug* 19:22
Unit193"You're encouraged to try this tool out as it's in Saucy and above,...."19:25
elfyyea - but that could be anyone that reads the mailing list - not [team] 19:28
Unit193>_<19:30
Unit193s/You're/Team members are/19:30
elfydid I not read it properly? 19:31
elfycan't see now - stupid openstack server error19:31
Unit193http://paste.debian.net/hidden/9264b77d/ With your ideas.19:32
elfylooks good to me :)19:33
Noskcajbluesabre, FYI, backports and SRUs are different things.20:02
NoskcajAnd in responce to above, i don't actually know. The MRE would only be allowed for xfce itself i think20:04
Unit193Sadly, backports are pointless.20:04
Noskcajyep20:09
NoskcajAnd backport bugs are invisible20:09
Unit193Well, his two are SRUs, it's just that it's a full backport and not just a patch.  Backports are fine, but "Backport" normally means into release-backports which is pointless.20:11
bluesabreNoskcaj, Unit193: right, SRU packages backported from their Utopic counterparts23:10
bluesabrefor -updates23:10
Unit193bluesabre: Was dicussing the difference between a backport, and a SRU backported package.23:11
Unit193!backport23:11
ubottuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging23:11
Unit193^ Backports is useless, while SRUs are useful.23:11
bluesabreyes23:11
Unit193OK, good.  Now you understand me. :D23:12
bluesabrethanks Noskcaj, btw23:18
knomeUnit193, not completely useless, but... yeah, very irrelevant for most people23:21
Unit193knome: Unless it's a new package, backports is pinned at 100. :?23:22
knomeand?23:22
knomebackport > random PPA23:22
Unit193knome: Nice message to the list, btw.23:27
bluesabrebut random ppas are awesome23:27
bluesabre:D23:27
Unit193They are pinned at 500. :P23:28
Unit193knome: "Leader of Shimmer Project and Xubuntu" might need updated?23:28
knomehmm, that must've been left on my laptop23:28
knomewill look at it tomorrow, thanks for the heads up23:28
Unit193bluesabre: Most of my random PPAs are mine. :D23:30
knomeUnit193, also, yeah, i try to be constructive with my mails...23:32
knomeok, i'm off. see you tomorrow or sth...23:42
Unit193Goodbye.23:42
Unit193Oh, does Xubuntu frown upon the BSD license?23:42
bluesabregood question23:44
bluesabreno idea23:44
bluesabre:)23:44
Unit193bluesabre: Come on, man!  You're the tech lead! ;)23:44
Unit193bluesabre: I think ochosi wanted me to ask you to copy over xfce4-panel to the one ppa?23:45
bluesabreI'm not personally opposed to it23:45
bluesabreyeah, link?23:45
Unit193https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/xfce/+packages it's just a backport.23:46
Unit193https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/xfce/+sourcepub/4253675/+listing-archive-extra23:46
bluesabrecool, just learned about ppa package copying23:49
bluesabre:D23:49
Unit193bluesabre: Here's another question: We've stopped using different branches for different releases, or tags, or something.  Is this a mistake?23:50
bluesabrenot entirely sure what you mean... with ppas, or something else?23:51
Unit193'series', they are called: https://code.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings23:51
bluesabreoh right23:52
Unit193meta, docs, artwork, default-settings, etc.23:52
bluesabreshould probably create a trusty branch23:53
bluesabreand keep head at current dev release23:53
bluesabreUnit193, just the panel?23:54
Unit193Everything else is already copied over.23:55
Unit193https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/extras23:55
bluesabrenot appfinder it seems23:55
bluesabreso, panel and appfinder to staging?23:56
Unit193Oh, well I don't know.  That was a sync from Debian for myself as well.  Is that what you want?23:56
bluesabremight as well :)23:57
bluesabrehave you found any blockers where I would not want it?23:57
Unit193It seems a bit odd at times, but old may have had those issues too.23:58
Unit193I got it for the tab feature, but the tab feature isn't there. :(23:59
bluesabre:(23:59
bluesabre"foss" advertising23:59

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