[03:48] @^!%#$@#!!! forestpiskie: http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/316/builds/67147/testcases/1562/results It's alright that it has you use what I'd presume is the applications menu rather than whisker, since it's only testing the panel, right? And, adding a panel test repeats itself. [03:48] Unit193: Error: "^!%#$@#!!!" is not a valid command. [03:52] I don't personally like that it has you open and close the window about 10 times, but meh. [05:38] ochosi: Did that description help? Desktop's common useage isn't for videos and pictures, thus large thumbnails aren't necessary. [05:56] bluesabre, Show me an example translation update [05:57] Although i'm not sure the exact policy, if the package has an MRE it would include it [05:59] I'll add a comment to your developer application too [07:36] So our upower patch *should* make it safe to drop all upower code from xfce4-session\ [07:36] I'll get my PPA finished then could we have some testing to be sure? [07:37] elfy ^ [07:38] I guess so - but I was really hoping that we could get away from ppa's from here there and everywhere and using the xubuntu ones [07:38] I've not got -devel access yet, plus this PPA isn't xubuntu specific [07:39] I have to go, i'll be back later [07:44] ok [08:13] hi xnox [08:15] elfy: hey! [08:16] how's things - busy busy busy I suspect :) [08:52] Unit193: yeah, sorry, haven't gotten to it yet [09:49] ppa:noskcaj/upower should be ready for xfce testing [09:49] ping me if i need to update the gnome-settings-daemon version [10:19] hey Noskcaj, don't have one ready, was planning on shipping translation updates for each of my apps before 14.04.1. They only differences are updated .po files [10:19] I can bug the ubuntu-devel guys about it [10:24] bluesabre, i don't think translation updates are traditionally landed as SRU's, but that shouldn't stop you from asking [10:37] knome, can you add importance to these? They've gone largely ignored for a while now... [10:37] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1331871 [10:37] Ubuntu bug 1331871 in lightdm-gtk-greeter (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Please backport lightdm-gtk-greeter 1.8.5 to trusty" [Undecided,New] [10:37] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/menulibre/+bug/1323405 [10:37] Ubuntu bug 1323405 in menulibre (Ubuntu Trusty) "[SRU] Please backport menulibre-2.0.4 to trusty" [Undecided,New] [10:38] if you've followed the SRU process correctly, and nothing happens, poke the right people [10:39] I cannot proceed, they have to be uploaded to trusty-proposed before the SRU process begins [10:39] eg. if it's verificated, check who's the SRU person for today on the SRU process wikipage and poke then [10:39] aha [10:39] so you need sponsoring? [10:39] yes [10:39] well then follow the sponsorship procedure [10:39] I have [10:39] I'll email some sponsors directly next [10:40] do the sponsors have a mailing list? try that first. [11:14] bluesabre, are your bugs fixed now by colin? [11:16] knome: yay, black screen bug is fixed [14:43] did we get reports of mplayer crashing when you switch virtual desktops? [14:43] it's caused by this: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/532671/mplayer-vdpau-is-not-stable-when-switching-fullscreen-state/ [14:43] it's an nvidia bug [14:43] I've not seen any ali1234 [14:43] i thought i saw some on launchpad [14:44] there might well be - I only see bugs that come through to m/l [14:47] well anyway the workaround is to not use vdpau video playback [14:48] or turn off compositing === torstehu_ is now known as torstehu [19:18] http://paste.openstack.org/show/85017/ ? Not really sure what's all needed to be said. [19:22] perhaps ask team to try it *shrug* [19:25] "You're encouraged to try this tool out as it's in Saucy and above,...." [19:28] yea - but that could be anyone that reads the mailing list - not [team] [19:30] >_< [19:30] s/You're/Team members are/ [19:31] did I not read it properly? [19:31] can't see now - stupid openstack server error [19:32] http://paste.debian.net/hidden/9264b77d/ With your ideas. [19:33] looks good to me :) [20:02] bluesabre, FYI, backports and SRUs are different things. [20:04] And in responce to above, i don't actually know. The MRE would only be allowed for xfce itself i think [20:04] Sadly, backports are pointless. [20:09] yep [20:09] And backport bugs are invisible [20:11] Well, his two are SRUs, it's just that it's a full backport and not just a patch. Backports are fine, but "Backport" normally means into release-backports which is pointless. [23:10] Noskcaj, Unit193: right, SRU packages backported from their Utopic counterparts [23:10] for -updates [23:11] bluesabre: Was dicussing the difference between a backport, and a SRU backported package. [23:11] !backport [23:11] If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging [23:11] ^ Backports is useless, while SRUs are useful. [23:11] yes [23:12] OK, good. Now you understand me. :D [23:18] thanks Noskcaj, btw [23:21] Unit193, not completely useless, but... yeah, very irrelevant for most people [23:22] knome: Unless it's a new package, backports is pinned at 100. :? [23:22] and? [23:22] backport > random PPA [23:27] knome: Nice message to the list, btw. [23:27] but random ppas are awesome [23:27] :D [23:28] They are pinned at 500. :P [23:28] knome: "Leader of Shimmer Project and Xubuntu" might need updated? [23:28] hmm, that must've been left on my laptop [23:28] will look at it tomorrow, thanks for the heads up [23:30] bluesabre: Most of my random PPAs are mine. :D [23:32] Unit193, also, yeah, i try to be constructive with my mails... [23:42] ok, i'm off. see you tomorrow or sth... [23:42] Goodbye. [23:42] Oh, does Xubuntu frown upon the BSD license? [23:44] good question [23:44] no idea [23:44] :) [23:44] bluesabre: Come on, man! You're the tech lead! ;) [23:45] bluesabre: I think ochosi wanted me to ask you to copy over xfce4-panel to the one ppa? [23:45] I'm not personally opposed to it [23:45] yeah, link? [23:46] https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/xfce/+packages it's just a backport. [23:46] https://launchpad.net/~unit193/+archive/xfce/+sourcepub/4253675/+listing-archive-extra [23:49] cool, just learned about ppa package copying [23:49] :D [23:50] bluesabre: Here's another question: We've stopped using different branches for different releases, or tags, or something. Is this a mistake? [23:51] not entirely sure what you mean... with ppas, or something else? [23:51] 'series', they are called: https://code.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings [23:52] oh right [23:52] meta, docs, artwork, default-settings, etc. [23:53] should probably create a trusty branch [23:53] and keep head at current dev release [23:54] Unit193, just the panel? [23:55] Everything else is already copied over. [23:55] https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/extras [23:55] not appfinder it seems [23:56] so, panel and appfinder to staging? [23:56] Oh, well I don't know. That was a sync from Debian for myself as well. Is that what you want? [23:57] might as well :) [23:57] have you found any blockers where I would not want it? [23:58] It seems a bit odd at times, but old may have had those issues too. [23:59] I got it for the tab feature, but the tab feature isn't there. :( [23:59] :( [23:59] "foss" advertising